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00:18:36 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2153: tubular brigde (athanasios) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2153#change-5340 01:09:12 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:41:11 *** Lakie has quit IRC 02:03:52 *** thgergo has quit IRC 04:47:45 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2152: MTR ER20 (Hong Kong) (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2152#change-5341 04:50:15 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2157 (New): China Railways HXD3 (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2157 05:33:10 <Brot6> Bundles Update: g25a2af5a 2011-01-12 cargodist (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist) 07:02:19 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:05:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:17:30 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:17:45 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:48:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:57:57 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:59:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:17:18 <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2158 (New): Deck house doors should be consistently 2CC (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2158 09:36:21 *** TheODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:53:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:38:42 *** ODM has quit IRC 10:44:25 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 515:afaee6267b42: Change: work in progress on Large Trader improvements (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/afaee6267b42 11:24:12 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:43:43 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:54:39 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:58:44 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:27:58 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Feature #1323: have banks as houses (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1323#change-5342 13:36:43 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Feature #1323: have banks as houses (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1323#change-5344 13:44:38 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 516:7c0c3382eaae: Feature: additional cranes for Large Coaster (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/7c0c3382eaae 13:49:16 <Ammler> why not using Spinx for NML docs? 13:51:14 <planetmaker> weil niemand in den Urwald zog und die Banane grade bog. 13:52:16 <Ammler> it just seems so obvious, if you look at some python apps :-) 13:52:48 <planetmaker> got an URL? 13:53:16 <Ammler> http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ 13:53:17 <Webster> Title: Overview Sphinx v1.0.6 documentation (at sphinx.pocoo.org) 13:53:22 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 13:53:54 <Ammler> actually it is hard to find a "bigger" python app not documented with spinx :-) 14:09:38 *** PeterT has quit IRC 14:10:20 *** orudge has quit IRC 14:11:35 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:11:36 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:12:19 *** ChanServ changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames" 14:22:33 <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2158 (New): Deck house doors should be consistently brown / 2CC (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2158 14:24:59 *** PeterT has quit IRC 14:24:59 *** orudge has quit IRC 14:25:05 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:25:12 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:26:48 *** ChanServ changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames" 14:37:29 *** ChanServ changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames" 15:10:54 *** ChanServ changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames" 15:31:05 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Feature #1323: have banks as houses (George) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1323#change-5346 15:35:53 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Feature #1323: have banks as houses (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1323#change-5347 15:41:48 *** ChanServ changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames" 15:43:19 <Brot6> roadtypes - Feature #2143 (New): Move roadworks bits to m4 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2143 15:43:19 <Brot6> roadtypes - Feature #2143: Move roadworks bits to m4 (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2143#change-5324 15:43:19 <Brot6> roadtypes - Feature #2143: Move roadworks bits to m4 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2143#change-5325 15:44:33 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 517:635d5cef5cc1: Feature: improved appearance of Large Trader (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/635d5cef5cc1 15:44:33 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 518:b767b43aacf3: Fix: some pixels that shouldn't have been there in one angle of... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/b767b43aacf3 15:44:33 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Feature #1323: have banks as houses (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1323#change-5347 15:45:18 <andythenorth> hmm 15:45:19 <Brot6> roadtypes - Revision 16997:a33e0abe08ce: Change: move roadworks counter bits from m7 to m4 (not s... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/roadtypes/repository/revisions/a33e0abe08ce 15:45:19 <Brot6> roadtypes - Feature #2159 (New): Make move of roadworks bits savegame safe (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2159 15:45:36 <andythenorth> why can't I change status on this ticket? #2143 15:45:36 <Brot6> andythenorth: #2143 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2143 "roadtypes - Feature #2143: Move roadworks bits to m4 - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 15:46:16 <Ammler> andythenorth: you were not memeber 15:48:16 <andythenorth> thanks 15:48:55 <Brot6> roadtypes - Feature #2143 (Closed): Move roadworks bits to m4 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2143 15:48:55 <Brot6> roadtypes - Feature #2143 (Closed): Move roadworks bits to m4 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2143#change-5350 15:53:49 <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2160 (New): Add cost parameters - same as HEQS (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2160 16:57:52 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:08:14 <Brot6> nml: update from r1124 to r1128 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1128 17:18:05 <Brot6> fish: update from r514 to r518 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r518 17:18:17 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r718), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r10), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r45), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1627), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r818), heqs (r567), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), narvs 17:18:17 <Brot6> (r5), newgrf_makefile (r254), nml (r1128), nutracks (r138), ogfx-industries (r3), ogfx-landscape (r19), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r593), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:22:05 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus (Diffsize: 1), belarusiantowns, frenchtowns, indonesiantowns (1 errors), manindu (Diffsize: 1), narvs, newgrf_makefile, ogfx-industries, ogfx-landscape, ogfx-rv (1 errors) (Diffsize: 2), ogfx-trains (Diffsize: 1), spanishtowns, swedishrails (Diffsize: 6), swisstowns 17:25:41 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:58:41 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:00:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:05:01 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:24:25 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:37:09 <DanMacK> Hey all 18:42:27 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:42:57 <DanMacK> Hey Andy 18:43:08 <planetmaker> moin DanMacK 18:44:18 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 519:6205c4a47a41: Change: minor change to Coaster Large psd (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/6205c4a47a41 18:44:18 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 520:70d4a1bf06bd: Change: offsets updated for Trader Large (uses Trader Medium nf... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/70d4a1bf06bd 18:45:08 <andythenorth> DanMacK: hi 19:00:53 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r21770 still failed (#2069) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r21770 19:03:42 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21488 19:04:49 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21770 still failed (#2080) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r21770 19:07:46 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2161 (New): ALCO S-2 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2161 19:50:01 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 19:51:40 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:04:31 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2162 (New): SJ V4 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2162 20:20:22 *** dukeman has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:20:58 <dukeman> hi 20:21:10 <dukeman> I have a question about grfid 20:21:31 <dukeman> if I make second version of my newgrf should I have different grfid's? 20:21:36 <planetmaker> no 20:21:47 <planetmaker> do you know action14? 20:21:53 <dukeman> no 20:21:58 <planetmaker> you should change the version, but not the grfID 20:22:14 <planetmaker> readup on action14. It has many nice features which you want to use :-) 20:22:23 <planetmaker> among them is the version for your newgrfs. 20:22:29 <planetmaker> the used palette 20:22:38 <planetmaker> parameter descriptions 20:22:47 <planetmaker> translations of all that 20:23:32 <planetmaker> just remember to change the version at least with every change you publish 20:24:14 <Hirundo> planetmaker: how/why should NML users know about action14? :) 20:24:30 <planetmaker> oh. wait. dukeman you use NML? :-P 20:24:37 <planetmaker> sorry 20:24:39 <planetmaker> trallala 20:24:42 <dukeman> yes 20:24:55 <planetmaker> then you don't worry about that. you just change the version by one and you're set 20:24:56 <dukeman> i though its a simplie couple of bytes 20:25:10 <planetmaker> possibly change the minimum compatible version, if they cease to be compatible 20:25:27 <planetmaker> both is part of the grf block anyway 20:26:14 <dukeman> so grfid is permanent for me? 20:26:25 <dukeman> even if newgrf version has changed? 20:26:58 <dukeman> lets say I made a newgrf town names 20:27:42 <dukeman> and I have grfid 44\ 4d\ 54\ 4e 20:27:58 <dukeman> if I make another version the grfid is the same? 20:33:34 <dukeman> I only change a version and min_compatible_version 20:33:43 <dukeman> is that right? 20:34:03 <planetmaker> [21:26] <dukeman> so grfid is permanent for me? <-- for one newgrf, yes 20:34:41 <dukeman> but if I make a new version is the second newgrf isnt it? 20:34:45 <planetmaker> if you just extend the newgrf: keep the ID and change the version. If needed also the min_compatible version. The latter only, if it gets uncompatible to the previous version(s) of the newgrf 20:35:13 <dukeman> ok understand 20:35:39 <dukeman> should I use only 3 bytes or can I use more? 20:36:37 <planetmaker> hm? for what? the grfID has to be exactly 4. Not less not more 20:37:42 <dukeman> grfid : "AB"; 20:37:52 <dukeman> ok, how many bytes is in here? 20:37:56 <planetmaker> that's 4 bytes, yes. 20:38:01 <planetmaker> ABCD 20:38:09 <planetmaker> is one and is another 21:00:15 <dukeman> hmm.. 21:00:29 <dukeman> maybe its obvious for you 21:00:42 <dukeman> but I really dont understand that byte thing ;) 21:00:55 <dukeman> how 02 is B 21:01:00 <dukeman> i mean C 21:01:04 <dukeman> and 03 is D 21:01:06 <dukeman> ? 21:01:39 <dukeman> how to decode that? 21:02:05 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:03:57 <planetmaker> dukeman: the string is 4 bytes 21:04:03 <planetmaker> The first two are A and B 21:04:26 <dukeman> yes 21:04:27 <planetmaker> the third is a literal 3 if you interpreted it as a number. Thus 21:06:10 <dukeman> ok lets say my grfid would be DMTN 21:06:21 <dukeman> so in first two bytes is DM 21:06:24 <dukeman> and then? 21:07:04 <dukeman> grfid : "DM\..\..\"; 21:07:58 <frosch123> if it is DMTN, just do grfid: "DMTN" 21:08:06 <frosch123> the \.. stuff is only needed for non-letters 21:08:25 <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Feature #1323: have banks as houses (George) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1323#change-5351 21:09:13 <dukeman> ok so if I would like to have DM12 21:09:25 <dukeman> it would be dm\ ? 21:10:51 <frosch123> depends :) you can also use the characters 0123456789, but with \.. you can encode a number between 0 and 255 21:11:33 <frosch123> so "DM12" is two letters and two digits, "DM" is two letters and two numbers 21:12:44 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:20:32 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 21:28:32 <andythenorth> Ammler: planetmaker I can't seem to create a new project for rv-wagons 21:28:42 <andythenorth> I think I'm not a member of the OTTD branches project 21:44:50 <Brot6> Berries - Revision 15:d0053d138aef: Fix: method renamed to sendAdminRcon() (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/berries/repository/revisions/d0053d138aef 22:06:55 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:31:50 <dukeman> If the name of the tame have a special letter how should I write it in nml file 22:32:08 <dukeman> because if I use it now I have an error while parsing 22:32:35 <dukeman> *name of the twon not tame ;) 22:35:28 <frosch123> what special letter? 22:35:59 <frosch123> make sure to save the file with utf-8 encoding 22:37:46 *** TheODM has quit IRC 22:43:36 <dukeman> for example ń 22:46:33 <dukeman> if I converted it to utf 8 the following output appears while parsing: 22:46:34 <dukeman> nmlc: "lang\english.lng", line 1: Line has no ':' delimeter 22:46:57 <frosch123> oh, you mean for the identifier in front of the ":" ? 22:47:03 <frosch123> i guess that one must be ascii 22:47:24 <frosch123> for the actual text after the ":" your ń works fine for me 22:47:45 <dukeman> its two separate things now 22:48:05 <dukeman> I removed every special signs and compile it fine 22:48:26 <dukeman> in ANSI but after you told me that I need to save file with utf 22:48:33 <dukeman> i had the error 22:48:40 <dukeman> its not ń related 22:49:01 <frosch123> make sure to pick utf-8 22:49:09 <frosch123> utf-16 or similar won't work 22:49:12 <Hirundo> dukeman: what is line 1 of your file? 22:49:36 <dukeman> ##grflangid 00 22:50:35 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1129:2634a8f8057a: Fix: Spelling error in error message. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/2634a8f8057a 22:50:41 <Hirundo> What editor you you use? 22:50:52 <dukeman> notepad ++ 22:51:09 <Hirundo> I guess, it puts a 'UTF8 BOM' at the start of the file 22:51:52 <dukeman> ok i ll try without bom 22:54:27 <dukeman> works fine 22:54:34 <dukeman> with special letters too 22:54:38 <dukeman> thanks 22:55:45 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:56:57 *** dukeman has quit IRC 23:12:31 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1130:78113252a163: Fix: Correctly handle a BOM appearing at the s... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/78113252a163 23:18:40 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 23:22:44 *** DanMacK has left #openttdcoop.devzone