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00:05:29 *** thgergo has quit IRC 00:05:46 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:44:36 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 00:55:13 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2224 (New): New York R1 (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2224 01:29:12 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:26:33 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2216#change-5583 02:37:57 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5584 03:18:39 *** thgergo has quit IRC 08:08:36 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:18:51 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2225 (New): La Brugeoise: Allignment bug (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2225 08:33:53 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 563:f44e375df429: Fix: remove white pixels in Klyazma Hydrofoil (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/f44e375df429 08:33:53 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 564:63c9fe7ba85e: Add: psd file for 818 Hydrofoil (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/63c9fe7ba85e 08:33:53 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 565:f3173d5d33cb: Add: png file for 818 Hydrofoil (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/f3173d5d33cb 08:33:53 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 566:e7313e78c023: Change: use correct graphics for 818 Hydrofoil (test) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/e7313e78c023 08:33:57 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 567:a68122355912: Change: increase capcity of 818 Hydrofoil (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/a68122355912 08:50:54 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:22:26 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5585 10:24:10 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2216#change-5586 10:30:56 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5587 10:40:03 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1641:593e250d1795: Add: template for clustering fishing ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/593e250d1795 10:40:03 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1642:20946bba0e91: Feature: Fishing Harbours and Fishing... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/20946bba0e91 10:40:03 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1151 (Closed): Fishing Harbours should try and locate re... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1151#change-5588 10:40:23 <andythenorth> Terkhen: ^ fancy testing the fishing industry location code? :D 10:41:12 <Terkhen> on anticipation of this, my vm is getting updated 10:41:21 <Terkhen> I'll test it once the update finishes :) 10:41:49 <andythenorth> nice 10:42:12 <Terkhen> hmmm... there are fishing grounds now? I have been far from FIRS for a long time 10:42:22 <andythenorth> yes 10:42:41 <Terkhen> I should translate stuff too then :) 10:42:42 <andythenorth> do you remember what version you last tried? 10:42:50 <Terkhen> no, but I can check it 10:43:03 <Terkhen> r1578 10:43:16 <Terkhen> I'm not sure if I played with it or just used it to check something 10:44:25 <andythenorth> not many big changes since r1578 10:46:25 <Terkhen> oh, it already has fishing grounds, and they are even translated to spanish 10:47:11 <Terkhen> my memory is kind of bad :) 10:52:35 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5589 10:56:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1643:1baff59b579d: Feature: Dredging Site has bouy to sh... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1baff59b579d 10:58:51 <Terkhen> andythenorth: I'm pulling now 10:59:09 <andythenorth> will be interesting to see what results you get 11:00:11 <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2226 (New): Hydrofoil 818 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2226 11:09:08 <Terkhen> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/92/ <--- the water level is between parentheses 11:09:27 <Terkhen> for me the strange case is Industries: Low, Water level: 20% 11:09:47 <andythenorth> what map size? 11:09:51 <Terkhen> it had 3 or 4 towns in the coast but none of them got a fishing harbour 11:09:53 <Terkhen> 256x256 11:10:21 <Terkhen> there is no problem with bigger map sizes, greater water level or more towns 11:10:56 <Terkhen> but in this case (256x256, low industries, water level: 20%) there are many suitable places for building a single fishing harbour but they are not found 11:12:34 <andythenorth> I just got the same result 11:12:39 <andythenorth> it took about 6 maps to get 11:13:13 <andythenorth> due to the number of possible variables, there will be pathological cases :) 11:13:33 <Terkhen> to me it seems that, since the fishing harbour is harder to place, the industry placement code is not trying hard enough for it 11:13:38 <Terkhen> but it has no way of knowing that :) 11:13:46 <andythenorth> on some of these maps, I get a harbour, but it is *very* far from the fishing grounds 11:13:53 <andythenorth> which I have to allow 11:14:01 <andythenorth> at least for the first instance 11:14:09 <Terkhen> it is not something major anyways; in most cases fishing harbours seem to be placed without many problems 11:14:24 <andythenorth> I'm not really supporting low water cases :) 11:14:47 <andythenorth> it's interesting when the harbour and grounds are on opposite sides of land 11:15:02 <andythenorth> they are technically <60 tiles apart, but there's a mountain range between them :P 11:15:19 <andythenorth> I could check for clear water tiles, but it would be some form of o(n) problem :P 11:15:29 <andythenorth> equivalent to ship pathfinder 11:16:13 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:16:24 <Terkhen> yes, it's not worth the effort IMO 11:38:04 <planetmaker> [12:13] <andythenorth> on some of these maps, I get a harbour, but it is *very* far from the fishing grounds <-- that's why the player has the possibility to build channels 11:39:26 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:51:30 <andythenorth> planetmaker: indeed 11:55:26 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 12:18:43 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1644:94415457294f: Change: Update Spanish translation. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/94415457294f 13:39:24 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5590 13:47:14 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2216#change-5591 14:05:56 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5592 14:11:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1645:1e239df445ac: Add: Ignore additional defines contai... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1e239df445ac 14:40:27 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1646:cdac10a381dc: Codechange: Allow language-specific c... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/cdac10a381dc 14:41:18 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2216#change-5593 14:41:57 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1647:5fd488ecaab8: Fix: Add generic cleanup sequence (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5fd488ecaab8 14:44:22 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5594 14:49:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1648:731289e03c84: Change: Ignore also all language clea... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/731289e03c84 14:50:07 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:52:15 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1649:7282a3b31e0e: Feature: Usage of genders in the Germ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7282a3b31e0e 15:05:50 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2218: When should we release 2.0? (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2218#change-5595 15:08:54 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Support #2211: Feedback from the community / playerbase (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2211#change-5596 15:08:56 <V453000> purno/DJNekkid: some feedback right there :) I said something in the channel already, but just put it together and wrote it in the issue, since it probably is a better place to place it :) 15:11:36 <planetmaker> reads quite nice, V :-) 15:13:48 <V453000> did my best :P 15:14:54 <planetmaker> The next step would be to suggest detailed changes ;-) 15:15:03 <planetmaker> tralallala :-) 15:15:39 <V453000> he :) 15:16:43 <DJNekkid> good morning everyone :D 15:16:46 <V453000> hi 15:24:36 <DJNekkid> V453000: as the point about the GC1 might be valid im not sure if i agree with you 15:24:54 <V453000> hm? :) 15:25:01 <DJNekkid> the engine cost ALOT 15:25:14 <DJNekkid> for beeing a roughtly 1940 engine 15:25:15 <V453000> yes, which is no problem if you play from ... 1900 or even earlier 15:25:24 <DJNekkid> and the elrails cost ALOT as well 15:25:49 <V453000> but still, even if it too expensive so you can afford it in 1960 15:25:52 <DJNekkid> 1000?/tile for the 180kmh, or 1000? per tile without nutracks 15:26:18 <V453000> it still gets boring because one certaing engine is best for 40 years 15:26:38 <DJNekkid> best for what? 15:26:41 <DJNekkid> long hauls? 15:26:47 <DJNekkid> best price/speed 15:26:51 <DJNekkid> best price/power? 15:27:00 <V453000> top speed and power 15:27:05 <V453000> without competition pretty much 15:27:31 <V453000> anyway, I told you what I think. Do with it whatever you like :) now I hve to go, I will be on later, cya :) 15:29:53 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 21208 15:29:53 <Webster> planetmaker: 52D8 15:29:55 <DJNekkid> got 15:30:00 <DJNekkid> got any suggestions then? 15:30:11 <DJNekkid> should i remove the engine all along? 15:34:48 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2216#change-5598 15:39:22 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2227 (New): r727 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2227 15:40:34 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228 (New): r727 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2228 15:55:48 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2228#change-5599 16:12:42 <Terkhen> planetmaker: why is GENDER_FILE required? it does not seem to be used anywhere 16:12:56 <planetmaker> it's not required. It should be removed 16:13:17 <planetmaker> If you commit your language, you could do that right away please :-) 16:13:51 <Terkhen> I was checking r1648 16:13:57 <planetmaker> I wonder though what to do with 1.0.5... 16:14:09 <planetmaker> even when skipping the gender_translation_table it looks ugly 16:14:40 <Terkhen> do nothing and force the users to playtest 1.1.0 too? :) 16:14:53 <planetmaker> I guess ;-) 16:16:57 <planetmaker> well. I guess I'll just commit that and face andy's wrath :-P 16:17:15 <planetmaker> then I'll remove in the same commit the GENDER_FILE; too, if you haven#t already 16:18:22 <Ammler> Rubidium: did you get reaction from others than me since you changed the source tar compression from bz2 to xz? 16:19:04 <Ammler> I guess, we should do that here too 16:26:01 <planetmaker> Terkhen: pull 16:26:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1650:f54fc57eeb60: Change: FIRS is now only compatible w... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f54fc57eeb60 16:26:33 <planetmaker> now andy can flame me :-P 16:26:51 <planetmaker> though I'm reasonably confident that he won't mind 16:27:16 <planetmaker> There is a way with many defines and / or action6 to work around this. Not sure it's worth the trouble, though 16:29:45 * Terkhen pulls 16:30:38 <planetmaker> it significantly simplified the version check ;-) 16:33:19 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 16:34:21 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:53:03 <Terkhen> heh, I got a town called googlegate 16:55:43 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:57:26 <planetmaker> :-D 16:57:28 <Ammler> Terkhen: that is a bad joke of an early dev, who change giggle or something to google 16:57:40 <Terkhen> heh, really? 16:57:49 <Ammler> you don't have google in ttd 16:57:57 <Terkhen> giggle sounds way more appropiate for "silly town names" 16:57:58 <planetmaker> must be a scandal: googlegate 16:58:05 <Ammler> would be nice, if that could be fixed sometime 16:58:19 * Terkhen investigates 16:58:32 <Ammler> Terkhen: I guess it is pre new svn 16:59:44 <Terkhen> planetmaker: I remember reading about a "googlegate" scandal some time ago 16:59:57 <Terkhen> Ammler: that's quite possible, let's see 17:00:46 <Ammler> maybe not, peter might have quoted the svn commit 17:02:28 <Terkhen> 0: MK("Google") <--- it's pre svn 17:04:48 <Ammler> Terkhen: pre _new_ svn :-) 17:04:57 <Terkhen> yes 17:06:29 <Ammler> but I am sure, it is after openttd 0.1 17:06:34 <Ammler> well, quite :-P 17:18:50 <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r728 to r729 done (6 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/r729 17:19:27 <Brot6> firs: update from r1638 to r1650 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1650 17:19:58 <Ammler> +1 17:20:06 <Brot6> fish: update from r550 to r567 done (9 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r567 17:20:21 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r45), comic-houses (r71), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r821), heqs (r572), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r5), newgrf_makefile (r254), nml 17:20:21 <Brot6> (r1139), nutracks (r171), ogfx-industries (r3), ogfx-landscape (r22), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r593), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:21:33 <Ammler> /!!Warning (107): Label FB has not been goto'ed. <-- dedicated to pm :-) 17:22:01 <planetmaker> hm 17:29:12 <planetmaker> should be gone now 17:29:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1651:74bf41ae7e8f: Fix (r1650): Don't declare unused labels (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/74bf41ae7e8f 17:34:34 <Ammler> planetmaker: you know, that you can use usual strings as label? 17:35:11 <planetmaker> no 17:49:46 <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 172:2d2916420986: Change: All of the subway/concrete edges werent properly co... (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/2d2916420986 17:49:59 * Lakie ponders looking at this makefile nfo thing 17:50:06 <Lakie> (For the finnish set) 17:51:54 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2229 (New): Change of some graphics (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2229 17:52:09 <planetmaker> well :-) Ask if you need help with it - if you mean the one I wrote 17:54:29 <Lakie> Yeah 17:54:45 <Lakie> I'm guessing it'll need mingw/cygwin/linux though 17:59:54 <Terkhen> Lakie: yes, on windows I use a linux VM as it is actually faster than mingw 18:04:31 <Lakie> Ok, sounds minorly inconvient but I still have the vm from integrating png into 18:04:36 <Lakie> grfcodec... 18:06:48 <Lakie> Though in fairness, windows lacks things like make and such linux has. :( 18:07:26 <planetmaker> Well. One could probably write a similar thing as a bat file... 18:07:48 <Lakie> uh, sounds like it'd be a real pain though 18:08:01 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:08:08 <DanMacK> hey all 18:08:17 <Lakie> Hi DanMacK 18:08:46 <Terkhen> yes... bat are really complicated 18:09:50 <Terkhen> Lakie: another possibility is to try to make it work downloading packages from gnuwin32, but that will be a pain too and I'm not sure if it will work at all 18:10:05 <Lakie> Likely wouldn't 18:10:17 <Lakie> linux vm was easier to setup than mingw... 18:14:27 <Lakie> Ah well, I'll give it a shot in a while. 18:17:59 <Terkhen> yes, mingw/msys gives a lot of headaches 18:18:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:24:44 <Ammler> Lakie: I still hope, nml will get the stage where it is useable without makefile 18:25:10 <Lakie> Is it not already? 18:25:24 <Lakie> My basic nml examples do not need makefiles... 18:25:31 <Ammler> it misses "include" 18:25:36 <Lakie> :( 18:25:41 <Lakie> But thats so very useful 18:26:16 <Lakie> I can't imagine it'd be that hard to implement? 18:26:25 <Ammler> but also installing nml is not that straight forward on windows 18:26:40 <Lakie> Yeah, or running 18:27:04 <Lakie> But thats more because of the medium it uses rather than the program. 18:27:04 <Ammler> windows is just good for gameing :-) 18:27:12 <Lakie> Lol, might well be 18:27:37 <Lakie> Still like my VS, even if a little bloated.. 18:40:39 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2230 (New): FS 86 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2230 19:03:32 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21924 to r21928 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r21928 19:06:18 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21488 19:07:25 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21928 still failed (#2080) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r21928 19:16:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2196 (Closed): Engineering and Farm Supplies over reporting ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2196#change-5601 19:17:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1992 (Closed): Apparent secondary closure bug (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1992#change-5602 19:23:01 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1612 (Closed): Should Sugar Refinery accept chemicals? (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1612#change-5605 19:24:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1303 (Closed): Include action14 strings into translations (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1303#change-5606 19:38:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1652:be19313928e3: Add: file for smithy forge (Stone Hou... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/be19313928e3 19:42:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1653:ae2d838a1bf5: Change: test additional layout for Dr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ae2d838a1bf5 19:42:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1654:37200975efe5: Change: (translations) rename Forge t... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/37200975efe5 19:44:20 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2231 (New): Rename 'pcx' folder to graphics and update p... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2231 19:51:08 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2231 (Closed): Rename 'pcx' folder to graphics and updat... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2231 19:51:08 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1655:2febed444e73: Cleanup: rename 'pcx' folder to 'grap... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2febed444e73 19:51:08 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2231 (Closed): Rename 'pcx' folder to graphics and updat... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2231#change-5607 20:06:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1656:e66dcbbee14d: Change: Lime Kiln has it's own graphi... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e66dcbbee14d 20:10:06 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2232 (New): DB VT04 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2232 20:15:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:50:00 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:08:18 <Rubidium> Ammler: nope 21:09:44 <Ammler> Rubidium: now I need to scrollback to rembember, what I asked :-P 21:10:33 <Ammler> ah, bz2->xz 22:08:37 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:25:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1657:7c9c556fdd67: Add: psd source file for Lime Kiln (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7c9c556fdd67 22:25:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1658:52f43e18653a: Change: upgraded graphics for Smithy ... 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