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(andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/457238ac2e9c 07:33:13 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 80:5901d1383959: Change: mark Clay Pit platforms as deprecated (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/5901d1383959 07:33:13 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature #2450 (New): How to handle deprecating tiles? (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2450 07:47:42 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 81:ee93da6ddb9e: Change: improve appearance of Quarry / Clay Pit pla... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/ee93da6ddb9e 08:01:16 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 82:7cd53995047f: Change: further improve appearance of Quarry / Clay... 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(planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2450#change-6300 12:17:24 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:37:29 * Lakie has a play with real expressions. 12:37:54 <Lakie> Could save me somewhat of a headache with some of my automation... 12:55:51 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 231:b86b17216f4c: Add #2284: Special depot sprites and flipping for Le... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/b86b17216f4c 13:12:59 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6301 13:16:52 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6302 13:17:52 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 232:f23d1c62ea39: Fix: Lev3 was shown reversed in the purchase view (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/f23d1c62ea39 13:20:07 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:23:05 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2411: Reversing engines (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2411#change-6303 13:40:45 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6306 13:46:03 <Rubidium> so... anything that needs to be done for GRFCodec before 5.1.1? 13:46:32 <Ammler> Rubidium: anything that needs to be tested from packaging? 13:46:37 <Ammler> something new 13:46:52 <Ammler> (I guess not) 13:49:07 <Rubidium> not that I'm aware of 13:53:56 <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 826:ffaf165c7ab3: Update changelog (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/ffaf165c7ab3 13:53:56 <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 827:b9156b157db0: Update copyright year (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/b9156b157db0 13:53:56 <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 828:af2ecb7b3a95: Added tag 5.1.1 for changeset b9156b157db0 (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/af2ecb7b3a95 13:57:34 <Ammler> Rubidium: "-source" in the folder is very uncommen 13:57:44 <Ammler> (fine for archive) 13:58:46 <Ammler> default is "cd %{name}-%{version}" 13:59:04 <Rubidium> yeah... you *could* have mentioned that *before* the release... 13:59:21 <Ammler> well, it is something generic of all the projects 13:59:56 <Ammler> doesn't really matter, such things might be better to keep :-) 14:00:29 <Ammler> does it not matter for Debian? 14:01:39 <Rubidium> don't know 14:02:01 *** MinchinWeb has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:02:20 <Rubidium> and don't really care anymore; I've been whining for those updates for a while and if he doesn't do it then I don't really care about making packaging easier either 14:03:10 <Rubidium> and I've asked for feedback from the fedora guys as well on the packaging before 5.0.0 and it's been this way since then 14:03:52 <Ammler> well, this is the "openttd" way, if you would change it, you would need to change it on all openttd projects 14:04:10 <Brot6> GRFCodec - GRFCodec 5.1.1 (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/54 14:04:13 <Ammler> it is absolutely no issue 14:04:27 <Ammler> I just mentioned it 14:04:32 <Rubidium> openttd itself has no -source in the extracted thing 14:04:38 <Ammler> hmm 14:04:54 <Rubidium> don't know about the base sets though 14:05:23 <Ammler> %setup -qn openttd%{?branch:-%{branch}}-%{srcver} <-- oh, indeed 14:06:03 <Ammler> but as you see, I also need to specify it there 14:06:36 <Rubidium> specify what there? 14:07:06 <Ammler> macro %setup is to unpack and cd to the project (and some other tasks 14:07:42 <Ammler> a rpm compliant package would need just the call "%setup" without -n <directory> 14:08:16 <Rubidium> http://www.theopensourceway.org/book/The_Open_Source_Way-How_to_tell_if_a_FLOSS_project_is_doomed_to_FAIL.html 14:08:17 <Webster> Title: Chapter 12. How to tell if a FLOSS project is doomed to FAIL (at www.theopensourceway.org) 14:08:45 <Rubidium> it would give OpenTTD 10 points of FAIL extra if we don't add versions there 14:08:58 <Rubidium> and then babies would cry 14:13:12 <SmatZ> that's just bs 14:14:19 <SmatZ> all those numbers could be /5 14:35:11 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 233:45cb5b402c05: Doc: Preparae changelog and readme for release of 0.2.3 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/45cb5b402c05 14:35:11 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 234:79b5b9c8704c: Added tag 0.2.3 for changeset 45cb5b402c05 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/79b5b9c8704c 14:36:37 <Brot6> ogfx-trains: update from 0.2.2 to 0.2.3 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trains/releases/0.2.3 14:54:57 *** MinchinWeb has quit IRC 15:14:11 * Lakie hacks the mdep.py script a little 15:14:23 <Lakie> currently has no concept of relatives. :( 15:14:48 <Lakie> Which breaks includes if I give absolute paths, so I'm trying a makeshift fix 15:29:35 <planetmaker> uhm... what do you try, Lakie ? 15:29:55 <Lakie> ../lang/file 15:30:10 <Lakie> Breaks on trying to make dependacy ../lang/file rather than resolving it 15:30:29 <Lakie> Since includes work relative to the folder the file is in from observation 15:30:42 <planetmaker> ah, yes 15:31:29 * Lakie 's hack was if it doesn't start with the sprites/nfo then try resolving it from file's path. 15:31:35 <planetmaker> Lakie: did you try gcc's dep generator? 15:31:47 <planetmaker> e.g. w/o mdep, but 'normal'? 15:31:57 <Lakie> No? dunno how? 15:34:23 <planetmaker> check Makefile_nfo:6 15:35:19 <Lakie> changed it in makefile.local 15:36:11 <Lakie> chokes on sub includes 15:36:34 <Lakie> like header.pnfo using a relative to lang/action14.lnfo 15:38:15 <Lakie> oddly works during the include process itself, so I'm at loss. :( 15:40:01 <Lakie> Sorry, I keep breaking bits of your system with my odd style... 15:40:36 <Lakie> Also, bbiab 15:47:58 <Ammler> Rubidium: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/entry/changelog.txt has a bit more output as http://us.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/extra/grfcodec/5.1.1/changelog.txt 15:48:13 *** MinchinWeb has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:08:53 <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r825 to r828 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r828 17:18:27 <Brot6> chips: update from r78 to r82 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/nightlies/r82 17:19:32 <Brot6> firs: update from r1858 to r1867 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1867 17:20:00 <Brot6> ogfx-trains: update from r227 to r234 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trains/nightlies/r234 17:20:07 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), comic-houses (r71), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r828), heqs (r580), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs 17:20:07 <Brot6> (r29), newgrf_makefile (r264), nml (r1296), nutracks (r179), ogfx-industries (r12), ogfx-landscape (r58), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r618), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:22:29 <MinchinWeb> I got my random town names to work! 17:23:46 <Ammler> majonaise :-D 17:23:52 <Ammler> and how? 17:25:00 <Ammler> you wanna upload the source to the devzone, so we have such a advanced grf as example? 17:26:05 <Ammler> (if you aren't able to use mercurial, there is also a simple file upload module) 17:28:33 <MinchinWeb> I added a tar with the source to my Forum post 17:29:10 <MinchinWeb> I ended up flattening the open choice tree, and tweaked a bunch of numbers 17:29:10 <planetmaker> that's much harder to find than e.g. a repository ;-) 17:29:19 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: 2cctrainset (6 errors), 32bpp-extra (2 errors) (Diffsize: 12), basecosts, bros (1 errors), comic-houses (3 errors) (Diffsize: 22), fish, heqs, metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), newgrf_makefile, nutracks, ogfx-trees, opengfx, smts (Diffsize: 8), snowlinemod, transrapidtrackset (Diffsize: 12), ttrs (7 errors) (Diffsize: 1324), worldairlinersset (Diffsize: 17:29:19 <Brot6> 11) 17:30:04 <MinchinWeb> I know... right now I have it as a side project on Google Code 17:30:20 <MinchinWeb> I'm using SVN there 17:32:34 <MinchinWeb> http://code.google.com/p/openttd-noai-wmdot/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2FExtras%2FMinchin%20Town%20Names 17:32:53 <MinchinWeb> is there an easy way to move it from there to DevZone? 17:36:50 <planetmaker> it's quite easy, if you use a hg project there, and know how to use svn2hg. 17:37:06 <planetmaker> it's also possible to use svn, but that repo is not automatically generated 17:38:49 <MinchinWeb> ...not automatically generated on DevZone? 17:40:53 <Ammler> you can still host the repo at google and just use the devzone tracker 17:41:21 <Ammler> or you can use "hg convert" or hgsubversion to convert a svn repo to hg 17:41:40 <MinchinWeb> ok, I'm still new at this... what does the tracker do? 17:46:01 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains <-- browse through yourself ;-) 17:46:13 <planetmaker> Most notably 'issues' and 'activity' 17:47:31 <Ammler> your repo at google: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/mwrandtownnames/repository 17:47:32 <Brot6> MinchinWeb's Random Town Names - Revision 26: [Minchin Town Names] Bananas release, Version 1 (w.minchin@gmail.com) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/mwrandtownnames/repository/revisions/26 17:47:32 <Brot6> MinchinWeb's Random Town Names - Revision 27: [Minchin Town Names] Fixed Mime-types (w.minchin@gmail.com) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/mwrandtownnames/repository/revisions/27 17:49:35 <MinchinWeb> I see ... very cool! 17:50:03 <Ammler> why do you have the tar and grf in your source repo? 17:50:05 <MinchinWeb> so the source files remain hosted on Google Code and I can keep uploading/changing files there? 17:50:13 <Ammler> yes 17:50:18 <MinchinWeb> sweet 17:50:26 <Ammler> but the tar and grf don't belong there 17:50:46 <Ammler> you could register at devzone so we can make you manager there 17:51:07 <MinchinWeb> the tar was just the source put together so I could upload it to the forums as one file 17:51:24 <MinchinWeb> where should the grf go? 17:51:40 <Ammler> yep, but googlecode would also allow upload files, so does the devzone or the forums 17:54:25 <Ammler> currently, the devzone compiler does only support the mercurial repos on our server to be build automatically as nightly or release 17:56:39 <MinchinWeb> You can add me to DevZone, I'm registered as MinchinWeb 17:58:05 <MinchinWeb> so when stuff is compiled on devzone, where do the compiled files go? 17:58:07 <planetmaker> Hm, I wonder whether it can be sufficiently abstracted. Looking at openttd's makefile it can 17:58:24 <planetmaker> bundles.openttdcoop.org/projectname 17:58:52 <planetmaker> you'll find quite some newgrfs there already ;-) 17:59:14 <Ammler> you are manager now of your project 17:59:32 <Ammler> you could also enable the files module for releases (tar & grf) 17:59:51 <Ammler> or whatever :-P 18:00:02 <Ammler> and you can make new projects 18:00:07 <Ammler> e.g. also for your ai 18:01:39 <MinchinWeb> Ok cool :) 18:02:04 <Ammler> feel free to play around :-P 18:02:16 <Ammler> with the modules and whatever 18:04:40 <MinchinWeb> so is there a simple way for my town names to show up on the bundles page automatically? 18:05:50 <Ammler> currently just with migrating to our mercurial server 18:06:06 <Ammler> that might change with DevZone2 but not soon to expect :-) 18:07:00 <Ammler> s/:-)/:-(/ 18:09:07 <Ammler> MinchinWeb: version in grfid is depreciated 18:09:33 <MinchinWeb> ?? 18:10:03 <Ammler> well, you should not change the grfid for version 2 :-P 18:10:24 <Ammler> there are version properities in grf block 18:11:04 <Ammler> did you get that from the nml reference? 18:11:19 <MinchinWeb> I don't remember off hand, but probably 18:12:54 <Ammler> it is easy, one entry at bananas should not change the grfid 18:13:05 <Ammler> not even sure, if that is possible 18:14:06 <MinchinWeb> it is, I did it 18:15:33 <Ammler> yeah, that was required until openttd 1.1 :-) 18:15:46 <Ammler> (relatively required) 18:18:53 <planetmaker> I wonder though whether town name newgrfs can easily become incompatible... 18:19:11 <planetmaker> nothing really wrong, if a town changes name... 18:20:06 <MinchinWeb> is the GRF refrenced when a savegame is loaded? the townnames aren't set directly in the savegame somewhere? 18:20:07 <Ammler> planetmaker: I got quite some issues 18:20:19 <Ammler> at least SwissTowns isn't 18:20:40 <Ammler> mostly openttd using same name multiple times 18:20:58 <planetmaker> ok :-) 18:21:07 <Ammler> but well, no crash 18:21:10 <planetmaker> well. Just up'ing action14 MINV is enough luckily :-) 18:21:17 <Ammler> yes 18:22:36 <MinchinWeb> another question about townnames - in the NFO spec, I read something to the effect that you could search for combinations and then disallow them 18:22:48 <MinchinWeb> did that get transferred to NML? 18:28:07 <Ammler> talk to alberth, he is around at #openttd 18:46:30 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:57:26 *** MinchinWeb2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:02:45 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of tip qtip ez.diff qbase still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/tip qtip ez.diff qbase 19:04:07 *** thgergo has quit IRC 19:04:32 <andythenorth> Yexo: any preference for how to handle removing unwanted tiles from CHIPS? 19:04:52 <andythenorth> wrt savegame breakage 19:06:00 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r22258 to r22263 done (80792 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r22263 19:07:09 <planetmaker> andythenorth, did you see my reply on that respect? 19:07:25 <andythenorth> oops 19:07:25 <andythenorth> no 19:08:42 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r22263 still failed (#2448) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r22263 19:11:19 * andythenorth does ponder in here where it's quieter 19:11:34 <andythenorth> recyclables chain for FIRS... 19:14:42 <Terkhen> hmm... how would that work? 19:16:04 <andythenorth> it's a rethought version of waste chani 19:16:06 <andythenorth> chain /s 19:16:16 <andythenorth> main aim is to provide a new chain around about 1997 19:16:25 <andythenorth> just when my test games start to get boring 19:17:52 <Terkhen> the waste chain was removed before I started playing with FIRS (if it was included at all) 19:18:37 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:19:06 <planetmaker> in 0.1 or so 19:22:34 <andythenorth_> this idea would re-add the recycling plant (which was planned anyway), and a recycling depot in towns 19:23:00 <andythenorth_> recycling depot -> recyclables cargo -> recycling plant -> some output 19:23:24 <Terkhen> what would determine the production of recycling depots, town population? 19:23:27 <andythenorth_> maybe 19:23:39 <andythenorth_> it could be an interesting variation on other mechanics 19:23:49 <andythenorth_> and towns are interesting sizes by 1990s 19:23:49 <Terkhen> that mechanic could make sense for junk yard too 19:24:10 <andythenorth_> junk yard doesn't try to build in every town 19:24:16 <Terkhen> and also it would have a big impact on metal chains 19:24:27 <Terkhen> so maybe it's better to leave it alone :) 19:24:29 <andythenorth_> and if too much scrap metal is available it distorts gameplay ;) 19:25:37 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:26:56 <MinchinWeb2> What if you just had a landfill; towns would generate garbage 19:28:35 <MinchinWeb2> You could later (in game years) add a recycling plant, but 20% would still go to the landfill 19:29:03 <MinchinWeb2> Would that avoid the too much scrape metal problem? 19:30:13 <Terkhen> right now scrap metal is fine 19:30:28 <andythenorth_> Terkhen: my main questions are 19:30:33 <andythenorth_> - output cargos at recycling plant 19:30:46 <Terkhen> yes, I was wondering that too 19:30:46 <planetmaker> plastics 19:30:47 <andythenorth_> - how big / how many recycling depots to provide 19:30:55 <planetmaker> and scrap metal :-P 19:31:26 <Terkhen> I was thinking on chemicals 19:31:38 <andythenorth_> I think manufacturing supplies 19:31:42 <andythenorth_> and then either chemicals or scrap 19:31:59 <Terkhen> hmm.... manufacturing supplies makes sense 19:32:28 <planetmaker> I asked before: can one instance of an industry provide cargos A+B and another of the same A+C? 19:32:39 <andythenorth_> yes 19:32:43 <andythenorth_> there's a cb for it 19:32:50 <andythenorth_> generally it's bad behaviour :D 19:32:57 <planetmaker> :-D 19:32:59 <andythenorth_> I dunno what it would do to alberth's chain view :P 19:33:06 <planetmaker> he 19:34:54 *** MinchinWeb2 has quit IRC 19:42:33 <Lakie> This real expressions thing is confusing... but nice. 19:42:45 <Lakie> regular expresions* 19:45:13 <frosch123> nml now knows regular expression? 19:45:45 <Lakie> na, experimenting with it (with pyton). 19:46:37 <Lakie> hoping it might help with extracting some of the data's I need 19:47:51 <andythenorth_> planetmaker: you think random cargo production from recyclables might be fun? 19:51:25 *** MinchinWeb2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:54:02 *** MinchinWeb2 has quit IRC 19:54:36 <planetmaker> andythenorth_, not sure 19:54:54 <planetmaker> but as long as a single industry does not change it... it might be worth a try 19:55:24 <andythenorth_> could be 19:55:54 <andythenorth_> it would come late in most games, when most chains are already connected 19:56:09 <andythenorth_> so it's not too disruptive in a bad way 19:57:14 <planetmaker> well, as long as an existing industry is constant in what it does... it probably is not too hurtful, if different instances of it produce different things 19:57:34 <planetmaker> or alternatively: random output decided upon map generation ;-) 19:57:47 <planetmaker> so within one game the same. but different for different maps. 19:57:52 <planetmaker> but probably that is annoying 19:59:43 * andythenorth_ looks at FIRS 0.6.3 tickets with a sad face 19:59:45 <andythenorth_> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/versions/154 20:00:00 <andythenorth_> so dull :( 20:09:51 <planetmaker> ogfx+trains 0.2.3 was similarily dull 20:10:50 * andythenorth_ sets ruinous price for primary industry construction :P 20:11:12 <planetmaker> it's already that way 20:11:27 <planetmaker> 10M is a lot 20:11:42 <andythenorth_> it's an...interesting...amount :D 20:11:49 <andythenorth_> it's the same as before 20:12:09 <andythenorth_> I just hadn't realised how expensive it was with prospecting off ;) 20:12:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1868:03068028aa93: Fix: reset base costs to default for ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/03068028aa93 20:13:50 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2449 (Closed): High cost for building new towns and buildings (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2449#change-6307 20:14:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2355: Primary industries close even if serviced (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2355#change-6308 20:17:06 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:25:56 <planetmaker> time to be boring: good night for today 20:26:28 <Lakie> night planetmaker 20:52:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1869:bba91356cea3: Fix: don't use templated action 2/3 c... 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