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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 12th April 2011:
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05:09:46  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Membership #2516 (New): Applying for project: Trains of Europe (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2516
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12:47:11  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Membership #2516 (Closed): Applying for project: Trains of Europe (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2516
12:47:11  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Membership #2516 (Closed): Applying for project: Trains of Europe (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2516#change-6499
12:49:47  <Ammler> 2cc addon?
12:52:19  <planetmaker> no, independent
12:53:02  <planetmaker> hm, when is the repo created?
12:53:13  <Ammler> 54
12:53:19  <Ammler> every 7 mins
12:53:44  <Ammler> o
12:53:59  <Ammler> 49
12:54:09  <Ammler> dunno :-P
12:54:33  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/toe/repository <-- so that will work in latest one hour?
12:55:52  <Ammler> you registered the repo already?
12:55:58  <Ammler> then it wont create one
12:56:19  <Ammler> do only activate the module, no registering
12:56:38  <Ammler> 10th times I said that :-P
12:56:59  <planetmaker> *sigh*
12:57:13  <Ammler> deleted it
12:57:27  <Ammler> so in 15.07, the repo will be created
12:58:00  <Ammler> if you register a repo, the script assumes you have "other" plans ;-)
12:58:22  <Ammler> like a svn repo or whatever, or a non standard path
13:02:41  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1930:fc89acb9ef0b: Change: improve appearance of Arable ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/fc89acb9ef0b
13:07:05  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: #<REXML::ParseException: No close tag for /projects/project[66]/description>
13:07:05  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/rexml/parsers/treeparser.rb:28:in `parse'
13:07:05  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/rexml/document.rb:227:in `build'
13:07:05  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/rexml/document.rb:43:in `initialize'
13:07:05  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-3.0.3/lib/active_support/xml_mini/rexml.rb:29:in `new'
13:07:07  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-3.0.3/lib/active_support/xml_mini/rexml.rb:29:in `parse'
13:07:10  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-3.0.3/lib/active_support/xml_mini.rb:78:in `__send__'
13:07:13  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-3.0.3/lib/active_support/xml_mini.rb:78:in `parse'
13:07:16  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-3.0.3/lib/active_support/core_ext/hash/conversions.rb:78:in `from_xml'
13:07:19  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activeresource-3.0.3/lib/active_resource/formats/xml_format.rb:21:in `decode'
13:07:22  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activeresource-3.0.3/lib/active_resource/connection.rb:79:in `get'
13:07:27  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activeresource-3.0.3/lib/active_resource/connection.rb:217:in `with_auth'
13:07:30  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activeresource-3.0.3/lib/active_resource/connection.rb:79:in `get'
13:07:33  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activeresource-3.0.3/lib/active_resource/base.rb:857:in `find_every'
13:07:36  <Brot6> /usr/lib64/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activeresource-3.0.3/lib/active_resource/base.rb:777:in `find'
13:07:39  <Brot6> /home/dev/redmine/extra/svn/reposman.rb:196
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13:07:43  <Brot6> No close tag for /projects/project[66]/description
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13:10:50  <Ammler> sorry, disk quota was reached :-P
14:00:22  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/toe/repository <-- still not working, Ammler
14:05:59  <Ammler> ah, mäh, it was together with quota issue
14:06:32  <Ammler> ok, 2 mins to wait
14:06:49  <Ammler> delteted it again
14:07:47  <Ammler> something is broken :-(
14:08:39  <Ammler> well, I created the repo manually
14:08:53  <Ammler> (hg init /home/hg/toe)
14:11:47  <dihedral> eny meny miny moe - pick a tiger by its .... :-)
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15:43:06  <Lakie> planetmaker: I'm thinking of the following options for writing action14, inline (ie. just the strings), seperate (on massive action14) and individual (one action14 per language), should I bother with all that effort or just generate inline which I prefer? :)
15:43:30  <Lakie> Could just drop seperate and have inline / individual.
15:44:44  <planetmaker> I'm not sure I quite followed you through that sentence, but either, one big action14 or one per language is IMHO equally fine
15:45:08  <planetmaker> one per individual string might be a bit massive
15:45:58  <Yexo> nml writes one big action14, but that is based on grf as preferred output format where nobody should have to read the nfo code
15:46:16  <Lakie> inline basically means just the "T" lines
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15:46:24  <Yexo> for nfo code I agree with planetmaker, either one big action14 (formatted in readable way) or one per language
15:46:29  <Lakie> So I include them inline in my action14 code
15:47:21  <Yexo> so "inline" means not write the sprite header and just the contents?
15:47:39  <Lakie> Aye
15:48:00  <planetmaker> Hm, writing a whole sprite might be nice
15:48:08  <Yexo> seems fine, will be very easy to convert to a complete sprite by including that in a template
15:48:31  <Lakie> Well, it'd only ever write the texts and such, not the actual 'data'.
15:48:31  <planetmaker> but what yexo says. But for that reason I don't think it would be complicated to add that part, too
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15:48:38  <Yexo> planetmaker: if I understand it correctly "inline" has the advantage that you can extend the action14 by including some more information, like the version
15:49:01  <planetmaker> Yexo, sure. But I could do that by another action14 without harm
15:49:30  <Lakie> Well, I figure I give the opions and people can choose? :)
15:49:33  <planetmaker> but however, it doesn't really matter, if I just have to add the "opening" of the action14 and the closing 00s
15:49:47  <planetmaker> Lakie, that sounds like too much work ;-)
15:49:53  <Lakie> Awh
15:50:08  <Lakie> Well, 14 "C" "INFO", etc is simple enough.
15:50:18  <planetmaker> it's you who would have to do both. I don't really care if you want to do that :-)
15:50:23  <Lakie> Other bits like inv and such goes beyond itrs scope,
15:50:25  <planetmaker> But I'd only implement one version for now
15:50:39  <Lakie> Inline then, since I just finished writing it...
15:50:45  <planetmaker> :-)
15:52:12  <Lakie> But shouldn't be too much work for the one action14 per lang, just adding some 'wrapping' bits.
15:55:10  <Lakie> I'll have a look at it all, still quite interesting to work it all out. :)
15:56:57  <planetmaker> it'll be a very nice step for nfo-newgrfs :-)
15:57:34  <Lakie> Maybe, or only really useful for me. Still I enjoy working on it, so even if its not usable for others, atleast its not wasted. :)
15:57:49  <planetmaker> oh well :-)
15:58:04  <planetmaker> I'm quite sure it may be of use to other newgrfs found here
15:58:33  <Lakie> Maybe, I think most of them already have solutions they like though. :)
15:58:35  <planetmaker> maybe also George is interested in it. He recently asked me whether - and if so how - bananas could be used to supply translations for his newgrfs
15:58:47  <planetmaker> Lakie, I doubt they have easy solutions
15:59:03  <planetmaker> if, they have some custom one, which is... fragile
15:59:28  <Yexo> it only makes the need for an open WT3 bigger
15:59:30  <planetmaker> and none supports the nice format of language files. The best nfo language handling is the one by FIRS so far, and as far as I know
15:59:58  <Yexo> Lakie: how are you handling utf-8 strings? or is every string treated as utf-8?
15:59:58  <Lakie> I see
16:00:21  <Lakie> Um, similar to nml, strings are loaded as utf-8, and then checked if unicode
16:00:26  <Yexo> ok
16:00:38  <Lakie> I have a question though
16:00:45  <Lakie> Can the action8 strings be utf08?
16:00:55  <planetmaker> I thinks so
16:01:05  <Yexo> yes (at least in openttd, don't know about ttdpatch)
16:01:14  <Lakie> Ok, that's good enough. :)
16:03:47  <Lakie> I'm unsure if people will agree with my assumptions, but we'll se.
16:03:49  <Lakie> see*
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16:18:41  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 78:f968df5b0579: Add version detection support for MQ (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/f968df5b0579
16:18:41  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 79:7a87d3972c34: Branch 1.1 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/7a87d3972c34
16:18:41  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 80:af1458b3c872: Added tag 1.1.0 for changeset 7a87d3972c34 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/af1458b3c872
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16:20:30  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Bug #2517 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2517
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16:36:15  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Bug #2518 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2518
16:36:48  <Lakie> Should I just leave define tags like ARG_<name> for parameters I cannot resolve the number of?
16:38:56  <Yexo> for which cases would that be?
16:39:05  <Yexo> for which string codes I mean?
16:39:20  <Lakie> [str_][grf_]arg_<name>
16:39:33  <Lakie> Since one can specify a name or number
16:39:52  <Yexo> where can one specify a name or number?
16:40:18  <Lakie> arg00_name or arg_paint_name for example
16:40:34  <Lakie> The former has a number I can use for the "C" \d<num line
16:40:44  <Lakie> anyway, bbiab
16:41:08  <Yexo> ah, the strings for action14 names/descriptions
16:41:54  <Yexo> I think you'll need a way to force the user to specify the number somewhere
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16:46:15  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21891 to r22282 done (73 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/releases/r22282
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17:14:07  <Lakie> Current outputs look like this: http://pastebin.com/uTWXeSZB
17:14:25  <Lakie> Laziness has the second language untranslated. btw...
17:15:32  <planetmaker> looks good
17:15:42  <Yexo> yes, what is the input for that?
17:15:42  <planetmaker> I like the "Custom and whackey liveries" :-P
17:16:32  <Lakie> Hehe
17:16:41  <Lakie> http://pastebin.com/70DwZBJU
17:17:01  <Lakie> With finnish.lng being basically the first 2 strings only and 355 instead of 01
17:17:01  <Yexo> also your ~inline~ and ~seperate~ versions do not match (no english version in the ~inline~ one) <- simple oversight or edited before generating the second version?
17:17:25  <Lakie> Inline has the english in action8
17:17:34  <Yexo> ah, ok :)
17:17:40  <Lakie> Same as this one, just laziness
17:17:58  <Lakie> I could have put it through a google translate I guess for the second file
17:18:32  <Lakie> wait, lolz
17:18:40  <Lakie> The strings don't match at all. Heh
17:18:55  <Brot6> firs: update from r1926 to r1930 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1930
17:18:56  <Yexo> the string names are fixed? ie does a string for the action14 need to start with "ARG_"?
17:19:09  <Lakie> ARG or PARA
17:19:11  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r25), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r128), comic-houses (r71), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (ERROR r24), grfcodec (r828), heqs (r604), indonesiantowns (r41),
17:19:11  <Brot6> manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r266), nml (ERROR r1307), nutracks (r185), ogfx-industries (r12), ogfx-landscape (r58), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trains (r237), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r637), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671)
17:19:20  <Lakie> I was going to allow mappings and such, but that'll come later. :)
17:19:50  <Yexo> how do you handle {VERSION} ?
17:20:00  <Lakie> Custom tags file similar to nml
17:20:06  <Yexo> great :)
17:20:08  <Lakie> Otherwise it errors out.
17:20:13  <planetmaker> cool :-)
17:20:30  <Lakie> rejects tags G and P though
17:20:39  <Lakie> Not that one should overwrite any tags
17:22:02  <Yexo> hmm, nml allows overwriting any tags (it'll display a warning that can't be disabled), but it doesn't warn when trying to overwrite P or G
17:22:08  <Lakie> um, you can't replace G or P in the custom_tags file, sorry.
17:22:25  <Yexo> so bug in nml
17:22:47  <Lakie> Possibly, I looked at it and thought warn for others reject thoe 2 cases/
17:22:55  <Lakie> Based off nml
17:23:06  <Yexo> that's the correct behavior indeed
17:36:36  <Lakie> One can pass -I filename though, uses basic C style defines to try and resolve values for things like VEH_<name> and ARG_<name>. :)
17:36:56  * Lakie has no idea how to tackle static texts though
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18:12:46  <Lakie> Well, this is the two schemas I had planned for the single "action14.lnfo" file.
18:12:49  <Lakie> http://pastebin.com/XzrXzQBY
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18:52:32  <Brot6> D* - Revision 1:b8d2f7fab207: Rough main.nut - still unfinished as yet... (OTTDmaster) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ailib-dstar/repository/revisions/b8d2f7fab207
18:53:58  <andythenorth> if all the dramas are over, I'll have to write some code :P
18:57:55  <Lakie> hmm?
19:03:23  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 81:1fdcccaf97d9: Fix: tags are randomly sorted (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/1fdcccaf97d9
19:03:23  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 82:a7481d4e4359: Tag again 1.1.0 ;-) (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/a7481d4e4359
19:08:37  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of hd5abedd6M still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/hd5abedd6M
19:09:56  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Bug #2519 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2519
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19:13:27  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 129:81e24ffb32f9: Change: don't display any buffers in the build gui (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/81e24ffb32f9
19:13:27  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 130:a870d1fe31fb: Change: move all stations to a new category 'CHIPS... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/a870d1fe31fb
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19:37:25  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 83:0631d5bdc44e: Change: make compilefarm have same version as opentt... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/0631d5bdc44e
19:37:25  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 84:bae92e001174: Tag again again 1.1.0 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/bae92e001174
19:43:30  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r22282 to 1.1.0 done (73 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/releases/1.1.0
19:45:12  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1931:a3c9f90f3a80: Change: improve Dairy Farm appearance... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a3c9f90f3a80
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20:07:16  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #2501 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2501#change-6508
20:07:16  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 131:a23067439723: Fix #2491: fix monorail/maglev issues (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/a23067439723
20:07:16  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #2491 (Closed): CHIPS is very broken for monorail / maglev (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2491#change-6509
20:09:16  <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 132:ed3b9567f2a7: Cleanup: stop using some now useless parameters (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/ed3b9567f2a7
20:09:46  <Yexo> andythenorth: adding a new ground type has become a little bit harder, but at least the monorail / maglev issues are solved
20:09:57  <andythenorth> :)
20:10:46  * andythenorth pulls
20:18:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1932:91ddfc3ea88f: Change: improve appearance of Arable ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/91ddfc3ea88f
20:20:37  <andythenorth> Yexo: they look ok
20:20:39  <andythenorth> :)
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21:26:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1933:6b61f9b17a60: Change: Petrol Pump builds adjacent t... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6b61f9b17a60
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21:40:40  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1934:db00ba1526fc: Change: Petrol Station placement - pr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/db00ba1526fc
22:03:37  <Ammler> somehow my kdiff3 is broken, give up updating 32bpp-ez to trunk :-)
22:07:06  <planetmaker> where did gt vanish to?
22:08:07  <Ammler> well, he will come back
22:08:26  <Ammler> not the first time he goes for some months
22:09:11  <Ammler> any idea, what I can do to solve that? kdiff3(11714) KXMLGUIClient::setXMLFile: cannot find .rc file "kdiff3_part.rc" for component "kdiff3part"
22:19:33  <planetmaker> sounds somewhat like a broken install
22:19:42  <planetmaker> .rc are some kind of ressource files iirc
22:25:08  <Ammler> config file
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23:23:09  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Client Patch Pack - Revision 33:3cc013b97f2c: Rename to my own conventions ;-) (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/3cc013b97f2c
23:23:09  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Client Patch Pack - Revision 34:36680ef6c282: Fix: mq tags can be unordered (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/36680ef6c282
23:23:09  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Client Patch Pack - Revision 35:45288457b663: Update svnVersionForMP.diff for the mq... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/clientpatches/repository/revisions/45288457b663
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