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00:09:54 *** LordAro has quit IRC 01:37:45 *** supermop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 04:34:30 <Brot6> Bundles Update: g4de9a5a4 2011-04-17 cargodist (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist) 05:45:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:52:37 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:15:55 *** ODM has quit IRC 06:22:05 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 06:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 06:22:55 *** supermop has quit IRC 06:36:27 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature Request #2445 (Closed): Define separate station class for tiles (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2445#change-6550 06:38:25 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #2470 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2470#change-6551 06:42:57 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 06:48:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:57:24 *** ODM has quit IRC 06:57:58 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:08:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:09:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:11:41 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:18:56 *** ODM has quit IRC 07:22:04 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 07:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 07:34:21 <andythenorth> planetmaker: nothing wrong with foundations under wind turbines 07:34:23 <andythenorth> completely reasonable 07:37:15 <planetmaker> really? Well, it's, as said, easily done. I found it very weired. 07:37:44 <planetmaker> I never saw a wind turbine on foundations that big 07:38:10 <planetmaker> but then... why should I care indeed.... if I don't want it, I should not build on slopes ;-) 07:44:08 <planetmaker> so... let's see 07:48:11 <andythenorth> you could do custom foundations... 07:48:31 <planetmaker> hm... I got foundations from IRWE... 07:48:38 <planetmaker> *Irwe 07:48:51 <andythenorth> ;) 07:49:11 <andythenorth> incidentally both me and DanMacK seem to have got into a spriting rut :o 07:49:19 <andythenorth> we're neither of us very inspired right now 07:49:50 <andythenorth> this is not ideal as we have committed to a lot of projects :P 07:50:36 <planetmaker> he 07:50:45 <andythenorth> not sure what to do about it 07:50:55 <andythenorth> going to the aquarium to see fishes ;) 07:51:07 <planetmaker> I didn't yet notice that you were tired of drawing sprites :-) 07:51:12 <planetmaker> So you hid it well so far 07:51:49 <andythenorth> in Dan's case he probably just needs a break 07:52:04 <andythenorth> in my case...I'm running into limitations of nfo spec and a few other things 07:54:29 <planetmaker> a good time to draw the replacement for a few default industries or more snow-awareness 07:54:54 <planetmaker> or the different eras of industries ;-) 07:57:25 <andythenorth> indeed 07:58:04 <planetmaker> different eras of industries could - at least for now - easily depend upon build date 07:58:07 <andythenorth> I realised yesterday that snow particularly is going to impose a lot of savegame breakage 07:58:16 <planetmaker> why? 07:58:31 <andythenorth> the way sprites have been sliced is often not suitable for adding snow to ground 07:58:42 <andythenorth> and also same for providing gardens etc on tiles 07:58:44 <planetmaker> hm... opengfx+Landscape fails with unknown property 18 of feature 08 :-( 07:59:07 <planetmaker> he. Seems like a good idea to change that prior to 0.7 then 07:59:26 <andythenorth> it's a big task, I'd guess maybe 50% of industries affected... 07:59:47 <planetmaker> oh :S 07:59:47 <andythenorth> and then if extended sprite layout becomes available, I'm worried it all changes again :o 08:00:08 <andythenorth> so what I need to do is do the drawing and not really worry about shipping it yet 08:00:19 <planetmaker> he 08:00:31 <andythenorth> not really my preferred method :P 08:00:33 <planetmaker> that's a frustrating state 08:00:36 <andythenorth> 'ship now' is better 08:00:37 <planetmaker> yeah, agreed 08:00:49 <andythenorth> I was hoping extended tile format would become available soon 08:00:55 <planetmaker> especially new graphics want to be shown and roam "the wild" 08:01:16 <planetmaker> hm, so was I: You see, the wind turbine ;-) 08:01:33 <andythenorth> I have other plans for the rest of today, but I wonder about playing a coop game to re-inspire interest 08:01:59 <planetmaker> you playing or we setting up one with your newgrfs? 08:02:03 <andythenorth> can newgrfs be reloaded on a server game? 08:02:10 <planetmaker> no 08:02:15 <andythenorth> oh 08:02:20 <planetmaker> well, you can modify locally 08:02:25 <andythenorth> I was thinking of doing a collaborative sprint on CHIPS 08:02:25 <planetmaker> and then upload the save 08:02:45 <planetmaker> but updating grfs on a server while running doesn't work 08:02:58 <andythenorth> oh well 08:03:10 <planetmaker> buy you can load savegames, players would automatically re-connect 08:03:17 <andythenorth> ah ok 08:03:27 <andythenorth> the idea is to play with CHIPS, suggest changes, make changes, test 08:03:31 <andythenorth> collaboratively 08:04:20 <planetmaker> difficult. All participants always need the exact same grf. 08:04:33 <andythenorth> they could check out, build? 08:04:43 <planetmaker> yes 08:05:00 <planetmaker> and then upload an updated save and reload the server. Would work 08:05:18 <planetmaker> but sounds like a lot of hassle 08:05:27 <planetmaker> but depends upon update frequency 08:07:31 <andythenorth> probably a lot of hassle :) 08:07:56 <andythenorth> maybe I work on some boats instead 08:08:13 <andythenorth> anyway, fishes time 08:08:19 <andythenorth> bye 08:08:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:12:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2538 (New): NML writing illegal feat. 0x08, prop. 0x18 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2538 08:22:04 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 08:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 09:17:58 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2538: NML writing illegal feat. 0x08, prop. 0x18 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2538#change-6552 09:22:05 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 09:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 09:30:50 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1966:531fd9bded23: Change: Update Spanish translation. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/531fd9bded23 09:31:18 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1310:7882cf7a2019: Fix #2638 (r1301): action6 offset for snowline... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/7882cf7a2019 09:34:21 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2538 (Closed): NML writing illegal feat. 0x08, prop. 0x18 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2538 09:34:21 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2538 (Closed): NML writing illegal feat. 0x08, prop. 0x18 (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2538#change-6553 09:37:13 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:46:23 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:48:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Revision 59:a08cda343777: Change: Allow foundations under wind turbines thus... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-landscape/repository/revisions/a08cda343777 09:50:49 <planetmaker> thanks for the quick fix, Yexo 09:54:10 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:22:05 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 10:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 11:22:01 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:22:05 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 11:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 11:40:21 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 133:3a41eb272372: Feature: add waves to dock (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/3a41eb272372 12:18:26 <Ammler> planetmaker: did you get answer fro Valace or do you make something own? 12:18:38 <planetmaker> I'm making my own 12:18:53 <planetmaker> I want to employ a slightly different concept. 12:19:18 <planetmaker> currently I've trees doing the breakdance due to WAY too rapid animation :-P 12:19:47 <Ammler> just checked the pm I wrote him is still unread 12:19:56 <planetmaker> hm :S 12:22:05 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 12:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 13:22:06 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 13:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 13:25:21 <planetmaker> Ammler: ^ shouldn't those messages not be repeated anymore? 14:16:40 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1967:3945adc7b5a4: Change: improve appearance of Fishing... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/3945adc7b5a4 14:22:06 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 14:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 14:23:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1968:80fe7ec381b5: Change: forgot to add waves to part o... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/80fe7ec381b5 14:41:16 <Ammler> planetmaker: shouldn't but not done by my yet 14:41:23 <Ammler> it also should only tell that if it effectively has something to build 14:42:00 <planetmaker> he :-) Then I mis-remembered. I thought you changed it to that effect already 14:43:25 <Ammler> but it is still valid, that every ticket created by compiler should be valid now 14:43:59 <Ammler> which is IMO more important than protecting this channel from spam :-) 14:44:17 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 14:46:35 *** LordAro has quit IRC 14:56:09 <Ammler> what does it mean, when DanMacK is remaking aircraft for opengfx based on av8 14:56:17 <Ammler> does he simply copy them over? 14:56:36 <planetmaker> not exactly 14:56:58 <Ammler> because that is not what I would like :-) 14:57:42 <planetmaker> I didn't check the exact pixels. He told me that he'd re-touch them, but base them on pikka's sprites. Adjusting CC parts etc 14:58:28 <Ammler> so you it is worth to replace them? 14:58:44 <Ammler> maybe just for another clima? 14:59:42 <planetmaker> that's an idea to handle that differently 15:01:02 <Ammler> ogfx+aircraft? 15:01:24 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2532: version reported as 'unknown' for windows builds (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2532#change-6555 15:04:36 <planetmaker> opengfx+ aircraft could do things like cargo refits. I meant OpenGFX itself could indeed distinguish climates 15:05:49 <Ammler> yes, that is possible 15:06:02 <Ammler> we do that already with some vehicels 15:06:20 <Ammler> or with river shores 15:17:45 *** welshdragon_ is now known as welshdragon 15:22:06 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 15:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 16:22:06 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 16:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 16:51:04 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 16:52:05 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:17:29 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:22:07 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 17:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 18:22:07 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 18:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 18:36:53 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:37:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:38:14 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:38:34 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:46:19 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 19:19:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:22:07 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 19:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 19:35:55 <Ammler> well, at least thanks to api troubles, this channel isn't just silent :-P 19:41:54 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1969:a45fb9fa253e: Change: add some crates greeble to Fi... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a45fb9fa253e 19:57:42 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1970:310b753ae4db: Change: use better ground tile at Ara... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/310b753ae4db 20:22:08 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 20:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 20:35:17 <planetmaker> andythenorth: re fishing harbour: thought about using random varaction2 in order to decide the presence of the boxes or not? 20:35:32 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I have 20:35:36 <planetmaker> like chance 1:3 for boxes vs. no boxes 20:35:41 <andythenorth> if you read the code you will see why I don't :) 20:35:55 <andythenorth> it draws slope-aware custom foundations 20:36:06 <planetmaker> o_O 20:36:07 <andythenorth> so already something like 12 action 2s per tile 20:36:12 <planetmaker> yes, I understand :-) 20:36:24 <andythenorth> needs extended action 2 sprite for tiles... 20:47:40 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:58:01 *** supermop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:12:43 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:22:08 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 21:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 21:38:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:22:08 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 22:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 23:22:08 <Brot6> [nightlies] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again... 23:22:09 <Brot6> [releases] openSUSE API not reachable, sleep an hour and try again...