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(yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2508#change-6959 09:38:46 *** bodis has quit IRC 09:51:02 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:05:49 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2508: train documentation has nothing about articulated v... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2508#change-6960 10:48:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Code Review #2795 (Closed): regression test of airport layouts (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2795 10:48:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Code Review #2795 (Closed): regression test of airport layouts (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2795#change-6961 10:50:12 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2508: train documentation has nothing about articulated v... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2508#change-6962 10:51:56 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:53:51 <Yexo> planetmaker: looks good 10:54:26 <planetmaker> ok :-) 10:56:08 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1481:eead188d9c52: Fix #2508: Documentation example about articul... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/eead188d9c52 10:56:08 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2508 (Closed): train documentation has nothing about arti... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2508#change-6963 10:57:31 <planetmaker> Yexo: as I don't have means to read the rotation of an airport: do I have means to read the view# currently? 10:58:05 <Yexo> IIRC you have both, but I'll check how 10:58:36 <planetmaker> hm... I have rotation of the airport available at tile level?= 10:58:47 <planetmaker> sorry, I mean at tile level :) 10:59:55 <Yexo> seems not 11:00:11 <Yexo> the idea was that you get that via parent-scope from airports 11:00:24 <Yexo> but airport tiles don't have a parent-scope currently 11:01:08 <planetmaker> I'm still very reluctant to introduce separate tiles for the different rotations.... that feels very wrong to me 11:01:31 <planetmaker> hm... right, there was the missing parent scope... forgot that (again). 11:04:57 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2796 (New): copper ore wagons differ empty and loaded (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2796 11:05:35 <planetmaker> please, don't feel pressed, but what do you suggest I do about rotations: wait or new tiles till we find a good decision about the parent scope(s). 11:06:21 <Yexo> use different tiles for now 11:06:30 <planetmaker> ok 11:06:38 <Yexo> there is no way I get a decent new airport spec done before my holiday 11:06:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:07:06 <planetmaker> I don't see it an easy task, so I don't expect anything quick there :-) 11:07:22 <planetmaker> and... there's always many things one can do and which are interesting: so don't worry :-) 11:12:10 <planetmaker> I'm asking as I see the need to motivate our artist to keep supplying sprites ;-) 11:12:26 <planetmaker> Thus I'm thinking of adding at least one rotation for the city airport 11:12:35 <planetmaker> and releasing that then as 0.2.2 or so 11:13:17 <Ammler> is there any other advantage as eye candy for rotation? 11:14:42 <planetmaker> yes, it "breaks" av8 as it doesn't supply beautified sprites for the landing views for its planes :-P 11:15:07 <Ammler> well, some airports don't have square layout 11:15:10 <planetmaker> and for the none-square airports: it allows different placement of course 11:15:13 <planetmaker> yes 11:15:53 <planetmaker> it has also some influence on flight times, as the holding and approach pattern rotates, too 11:16:03 <Ammler> but indeed, you should make one airport with north-south landing, so artists can update their newgrfs 11:16:07 <planetmaker> but I doubt anyone cares about that enough to build airports based on that 11:16:15 <planetmaker> hehe ;-) 11:16:43 <planetmaker> see, would be a good time then ;-) 11:16:49 <planetmaker> I even have it as gimp files now 11:17:15 <planetmaker> though I don't think the layers are exactly useful, but there are more than needed, thus better than vice versa 11:29:48 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 11:29:48 *** orudge has quit IRC 11:33:31 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:33:31 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:06:26 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:25:10 <Hirundo> May I ask, why the parent scope of airport tiles isn't (yet) set to the airport? 13:40:53 <planetmaker> both town and airport have a 'right' to be considered as such 13:42:32 <Hirundo> airport tile->airport makes most sense to me, like industry tile->industry 13:42:39 <Terkhen> but town could be the parent of airport 13:42:55 <Terkhen> industry tile->industry->town, airport tile->airport->town 13:46:45 <Hirundo> you'd also want airport->aircraft, at least for the state machine stuff 13:50:11 <planetmaker> right... something like that was there, too :-) 13:51:13 <michi_cc> Seems like an argument for a 'related' scope next to the parent scope :) 13:52:09 <planetmaker> yeah... but that needs careful design. And that's IIRC why it's not yet done 13:53:11 <Brot6> OpenGFX Trees - Revision 51:84d3c527c565: Add: tropical trees (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trees/repository/revisions/84d3c527c565 14:09:21 <Terkhen> oh :) 14:09:47 <Terkhen> so the state machine could behave differently for each aircraft? interesting 14:11:49 <planetmaker> it would have to for helicopters and aircraft 14:11:57 <planetmaker> and possibly also for small and large 14:23:57 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:23:58 <Terkhen> and nice trees :) 14:24:29 <Terkhen> 11 looks a bit strange 14:24:52 <Yexo> <Terkhen> so the state machine could behave differently for each aircraft? interesting <- of course it does, every aircraft has a unique destination and location 14:25:07 <Terkhen> every aircraft type or every aircraft model? 14:25:09 *** bodis has quit IRC 14:25:22 <Terkhen> I supposed the former, not the latter 14:25:23 <Yexo> every instance has a different position on each point in time 14:25:30 <planetmaker> hm... if this goes on this way, OpenGFX will be able to have new tropical trees soonish, too 14:25:45 <Yexo> and the statemachine callback relies on the current position 14:26:55 <Terkhen> oh, makes sense then :) 15:10:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:24:01 <Hirundo> as a side note, 'aircraft' in this context could eventually also be a ship or RV 15:41:05 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:43:49 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:47:43 *** ODM has quit IRC 15:50:11 <Brot6> GRFCodec - Bug #2797 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2797 15:50:31 <planetmaker> ? 15:51:09 <Rubidium> interesting 15:56:49 <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r832 to r832 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r832 15:57:46 <Ammler> upgrade buildsystem to openSUSE Tumbleweed 15:58:14 <Ammler> (rolling update) 15:59:50 <Brot6> nml: update from r1480 to r1481 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1481 16:17:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:48:49 <Ammler> hmm, reporter can close own tickets only... 16:49:08 <Ammler> deleted #2797 16:49:11 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1475:4c4aaf31d8d3: Fix r1461: the 'layouts' property of industrie... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/4c4aaf31d8d3 16:49:22 <Ammler> ah not reporter anymore 16:50:39 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:52:06 <planetmaker> hm, who? where? 16:53:21 <Ammler> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/file/b7e6d30c9445/.devzone/build <-- yexo, branch 0.1 doesn't have releases 16:53:42 <Ammler> just remember if you like to make another 0.1 release to add it 16:54:03 <Ammler> since the settings are version depended 16:54:44 <Yexo> Ammler: thanks, I will 16:55:27 <Ammler> well, we could add that already 16:56:41 <Ammler> transplant r1371:e6ed9af9b7ba 16:57:44 <Ammler> you see, it wasn't that long back we needed the old functionalitly :-P 16:58:52 <Yexo> I know 17:18:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2798 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2798 17:18:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX Trees - Bug #2799 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2799 17:18:46 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r105), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), cets (r5), chips (r143), comic-houses (r71), firs.nml (r2081), fish (r653), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec (r832), grfpack 17:18:46 <Brot6> (r279), heqs (r605), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r296), nml (r1481), nutracks (r202), ogfx-industries (r121), ogfx-landscape (r70), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (r245), opengfx (r678), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), sub-landscape (ERROR r66), sub-opengfx (ERROR r666), swedishrails (r202), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset 17:18:48 <Brot6> (r15), ttdviewer (r34), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r672) 17:19:10 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Airports - Bug #2800 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2800 17:20:02 <Brot6> Belarusian Town Names - Bug #2801 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2801 17:20:02 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #2802 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2802 17:20:02 <Brot6> French Town Names - Bug #2803 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2803 17:20:02 <Brot6> German town names - Bug #2804 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2804 17:20:04 <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Bug #2805 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2805 17:20:11 <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/narvs/nightlies/ERROR/r37 17:20:36 <Brot6> Manual Industries - Bug #2806 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2806 17:20:43 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r121 still failed (#2792) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r121 17:21:29 <Brot6> sub-landscape: compile of r66 still failed (#2616) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r66 17:21:29 <planetmaker> hm 17:21:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Bug #2807 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2807 17:21:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles - Bug #2808 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2808 17:21:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #2809 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2809 17:21:42 <Brot6> Spanish Town Names - Bug #2810 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2810 17:21:45 <Brot6> sub-opengfx: compile of r666 still failed (#2586) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r666 17:22:04 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: newgrf_makefile 17:22:09 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Bug #2811 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2811 17:22:09 <Brot6> Swiss Town Names - Bug #2812 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2812 17:27:20 <planetmaker> all broken CF 17:33:54 <Ammler> nah, not broken 17:34:01 <Ammler> there is no grf2html :-) 17:35:30 <Yexo> missing grf2html should not result in an issue for any projects, except possibly grf2html itself 17:43:57 <planetmaker> generally a problem with any of the CF's deps should not result in an issue reported to the newgrfs, but maybe to the CF project - even if it's not a bug of it itself. 17:46:27 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:51:03 <planetmaker> the biggest problem with this is that the correct issues are not considered anymore as the quota of errors raised by the CF correctly vs. wrongly is... not good 17:58:56 <planetmaker> but of course the false positives also are 'better' remembered ;-) 18:08:17 <Ammler> just a matter of settings 18:16:01 <Brot6> airportsplus: compile of r106 still failed (#2800) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/ERROR/r106 18:16:18 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Airports - Revision 106:4b4f740811ac: Add: [Makefile] Capability to use gimp and photosh... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/airportsplus/repository/revisions/4b4f740811ac 18:24:36 <Ammler> planetmaker: is it really that hard to read the logfile? 18:24:52 <planetmaker> it says that grf2html is not available 18:24:54 <Ammler> and it is possible to change those settings 18:25:55 <Ammler> yep, so the error is full valid 18:26:29 <planetmaker> Ammler: obviously grf2html worked fine till yesterday(?). Why is it now _my_ fault that ALL projects fail on it? 18:26:35 <planetmaker> That sounds rather ridiculous 18:26:48 <Ammler> who said, it is your fault? 18:27:11 <planetmaker> all those bug reports to newgrfs which I'm manager of 18:27:18 <planetmaker> they're all invalid from my POV 18:28:08 <planetmaker> especially as most projects just use the devzone's default settings. 18:28:09 <Ammler> yes, but why is that your fault? 18:28:28 <planetmaker> my. whatever. But it's not a bug for the projects. 18:28:41 <planetmaker> thus I don't think it's valid 18:29:09 <Ammler> it is valid, because your project needs grf2html, which is not available 18:29:42 <Ammler> shall I remove grf2html from default settings? 18:31:05 <andythenorth> I have closed it as invalid for FIRS 18:31:22 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2798 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2798#change-6964 18:31:28 <Brot6> airportsplus: compile of r106 still failed (#2800) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/ERROR/r106 18:31:33 <andythenorth> false Andon is no good 18:31:40 <andythenorth> causes real Andon to get ignored 18:31:41 <planetmaker> Ammler: the CF only should report issues which the authors can fix. Missing grf2html clearly is nothing they can 18:31:56 <Ammler> they can remove it from settings 18:32:03 <planetmaker> Ammler: from default? 18:32:22 <Ammler> [20:29] <Ammler> shall I remove grf2html from default settings? 18:32:43 <planetmaker> it's a nice thing. But why does it fail? 18:32:44 <Ammler> or they can like andy just reject the ticket 18:33:07 <planetmaker> and why does its missing cause a bug for the projects? It's a CF issue... 18:33:12 <planetmaker> and a warning only. Nothing fatal 18:33:19 <andythenorth> I wrote grumpy comments when I closed the tickets 18:33:24 <andythenorth> then I deleted them as unfair 18:33:46 <frosch123> stop highlighting me :p 18:33:47 <Ammler> what did you wrote? 18:33:48 <andythenorth> No-one wants to be held responsible for something that is beyond their domain 18:33:48 <planetmaker> It's a CF issue on grounds that it provides additiona info for / on behalf of the CF. It's an additional service. But not a project bug 18:34:00 <andythenorth> ^ +1 18:34:31 <andythenorth> if the compile farm provides grf2html then the tickets should be assigned to the maintainer of that 18:34:35 <andythenorth> or grf2html should be removed 18:34:36 <Ammler> so you think, if a ticket is assigned to you, it means you are quilty? 18:34:44 <andythenorth> that is exactly what it means 18:34:44 <planetmaker> of course 18:34:48 <andythenorth> that is the purpose of it 18:34:49 <planetmaker> that's the purpose of assignment 18:34:54 <andythenorth> it raises it for me to fix 18:35:05 <andythenorth> it's not assigned to "someone" :P 18:35:09 <Ammler> ok, then I tell you how it works 18:35:21 <Ammler> it simply assignes the ticket to the author of last commit 18:35:42 <Ammler> how would you expect a bash script to automatically detect the quilty person? 18:35:45 <andythenorth> so it's a technical limitation... 18:35:48 <Ammler> if you know, how, please show me 18:36:09 * andythenorth sympathises 18:36:23 <Ammler> andythenorth: of course it is, I have no clue how to make it better (yet) 18:36:34 <Ammler> the only "fast" alternative would be to disable 18:36:42 <andythenorth> hmm 18:37:13 <andythenorth> so it's quite arbitrary 18:37:31 <Ammler> you can either remove grf-to-html or I could extend it so it doesn't produce tickets for project anymore 18:37:41 <andythenorth> a FIRS error due to *my* mistake 2 commits before tip could cause Yexo or Terkhen or planetmaker to get the assigned ticket? 18:37:50 <planetmaker> failrure of grf2html should never raise an error for projects 18:37:54 <Ammler> andythenorth: yep 18:38:00 <andythenorth> ok 18:38:04 <Ammler> the assignement means just to make a mail 18:38:08 <planetmaker> andythenorth: but ideally we would have seen it ;-) 18:38:17 <Ammler> and then you either fix it, reassign or reject 18:38:20 <andythenorth> so I am feeling wrongly blamed, but also it wouldn't blame me if it was my fault :P 18:38:25 <Ammler> that is how it works 18:38:42 <andythenorth> is there a technical reason why it doesn't just to go to project maintainer? 18:38:48 <andythenorth> (is there such a concept?) 18:39:13 <planetmaker> there's project manager. But there can be more than one 18:39:14 <Ammler> assignment does not _mean_ you are to blame for the fault, it just means you are responsible to find the bug 18:39:55 <andythenorth> Ammler: can you change the text in the ticket? 18:39:58 <planetmaker> Ammler: that's ok for bugs one can solve. But suddenly a component the CF depends on going missing is not in that area 18:40:02 <andythenorth> maybe it can be fixed socially, not technically 18:40:14 <Ammler> planetmaker: yep, that means, I would just reject it 18:40:18 <andythenorth> if it was more friendly + helpful, it might be less annoying 18:40:57 <Ammler> andythenorth: you expect a script to be friendly? 18:41:13 <Ammler> please make me a suggestion for how to write it :-) 18:41:18 <andythenorth> "Possible causes: (1) a problem with project (usually missing files). (2) a problem with the compile farm - reassign to ?? for help" 18:41:29 <andythenorth> who would I reassign to? ammler? 18:41:34 <andythenorth> I'm not even sure :o 18:42:09 <Ammler> well, you can ask here 18:43:18 <planetmaker> well... it currently feels like I reject about 10x CF - raised bugs than it reports errors in the code I wrote 18:43:36 <planetmaker> missing OBs, missing or changed or broken deps... 18:43:47 <planetmaker> all this should go to the CF 18:44:04 <Ammler> ok, then I assign every ticket to you and you decide 18:44:12 <planetmaker> unless a project maybe has it's own specific build script 18:45:15 <Ammler> or we create just one ticket if something fails 18:45:58 <planetmaker> It basically needs to much more rigerously check where the error comes from 18:46:33 <Ammler> hmm, I could also simply paste the first line directly to the ticket 18:46:34 <planetmaker> currently every failure is a project failure. Which often is not the true reason 18:47:11 <andythenorth> it feels like *mostly* is not the true reason, but that might be perception bias :o 18:47:23 <andythenorth> hmm 18:47:37 <andythenorth> two lists of known failures 18:47:42 <andythenorth> one CF 18:47:43 <andythenorth> one project 18:47:48 <andythenorth> grep against those 18:47:57 <andythenorth> if i in list... 18:47:58 <Ammler> yes, patch is welcome 18:48:03 <andythenorth> heh :) 18:48:12 <Yexo> <andythenorth> a FIRS error due to *my* mistake 2 commits before tip could cause Yexo or Terkhen or planetmaker to get the assigned ticket? <- only if I committed something after you. That means you committed something that didn't compile, I didn't noitce that and commited something else after which is still didn't compile 18:48:24 <andythenorth> where's my customer support contract? :P 18:48:27 <Yexo> imo you might as well blame me too in such a case, ie the assignment might be wrong, but not too bad 18:48:43 <planetmaker> yes, that's IMHO not a big issue. 18:49:46 <planetmaker> assigning "real" errors to the last commiter is ok for me 18:50:07 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #2813 (New): grep error log before creating a ticket (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2813 18:50:38 <Ammler> andythenorth: I guess grep the error log might fix it, then I assign it to me or pm and we will decide... 18:50:55 <planetmaker> every CF error? Now, that's stupid, too 18:50:58 <Ammler> the issue is just to find the "right greps" 18:52:07 <Ammler> every CF error? 18:54:01 <Ammler> anyway, grf2html is now available for Tumbleweed 18:54:10 <Brot6> basecosts: update from r25 to r25 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/basecosts/nightlies/r25 18:54:30 <Ammler> or not 18:54:32 <Ammler> :-) 18:58:02 <Ammler> ah another path was missing... 18:58:13 <Ammler> well at least that was the last distro upgrade I made 18:58:33 <Ammler> Tumbleweed forever 19:08:51 <andythenorth> hmm 19:09:25 <andythenorth> 28', blue sky - not the most inspirational weather for drawing snow sprites :P 19:09:44 <Brot6> frenchtowns: update from r6 to r6 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/frenchtowns/nightlies/r6 19:23:28 <andythenorth> #2788 19:23:28 <Brot6> andythenorth: #2788 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2788 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2788: DevZone compile failed - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 19:23:35 <andythenorth> Ammler: can that be closed? ^ 19:27:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2788 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2788#change-6977 19:32:20 <Ammler> andythenorth: that was during the issues with version dependend .devzone settings... 19:32:28 <andythenorth> thanks 19:33:43 <andythenorth> one less ticket 19:35:50 <Ammler> the tickets from devzone are also "fixed" if the error bundle isn't around anymore 19:37:31 <Brot6> feed NewGRFs had 12 updates, showing the latest 10 19:37:31 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Bug #2794: DevZone compile failed (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2794#change-6953 19:37:31 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2090:9c2089c514d5: Change: deprecate 2 layouts at Grain ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9c2089c514d5 19:37:31 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2091:a9c3b6ffe62a: Feature: improved Grain Mill appearance (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a9c3b6ffe62a 19:37:33 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2531 (Closed): Rework brick grain mill sprites (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2531#change-6954 19:37:36 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2092:436dcf8a16f9: Add: keep an old version of the grain... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/436dcf8a16f9 19:37:40 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2093:4ffb61a8a040: Feature: new graphics for Hardware Store (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4ffb61a8a040 19:37:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2523 (Closed): Graphics for Hardware Store (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2523#change-6957 19:37:47 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2094:e432436004fd: Feature: snow sprites for Hardware Store (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e432436004fd 19:37:53 <Brot6> OpenGFX Trees - Revision 51:84d3c527c565: Add: tropical trees (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trees/repository/revisions/84d3c527c565 19:37:56 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2798 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2798 19:38:14 <Ammler> (deleted the invalid tickets as grf2html is available again) 20:19:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2095:613c3f1a3311: Feature: improved appearance of Grain... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/613c3f1a3311 20:19:52 <Brot6> firs: update from r2092 to r2095 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2095 20:23:09 <planetmaker> hm, build on push? 20:24:10 <planetmaker> probably a good thing :-) 20:24:30 <andythenorth> planetmaker: the hangar floor should be in shadow 20:24:45 <planetmaker> probably, too, yes 20:25:19 <planetmaker> but even then I think that the walls are too dark inside 20:25:36 <planetmaker> and I'll then need darker concret :-P 20:25:45 <planetmaker> +e 20:30:02 <andythenorth> you can't darken it because it's a generic tile? 20:30:42 <andythenorth> planetmaker: ^ 20:31:20 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=47475&p=953862#p953862 20:31:21 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - [OTTD] OpenGFX+ Airports (at www.tt-forums.net) 20:34:03 <planetmaker> andythenorth: not really. It "just" needs *someone* to draw it :-P 20:34:15 <andythenorth> just that one? 20:34:42 <planetmaker> it would of course need to fit. And could consider the shadow of the roof 20:34:51 <planetmaker> wrt the hangar door 20:35:01 <planetmaker> *fit the other concrete 20:35:26 <andythenorth> it's mostly drawn already in that case :) 20:35:34 <planetmaker> all this is no big hurdle. It just needs doing ;-) 20:35:36 <andythenorth> where can I get the tile? 20:35:45 <planetmaker> the concrete? 20:35:48 <andythenorth> yes 20:36:24 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=145672 20:36:43 <planetmaker> #24 or #25 20:36:43 <Brot6> planetmaker: #24 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/24 "2cc train set - Bug #24: coal wagon is distached from SNCF 140C, Class 11B 0-8-2 - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 20:36:43 <Brot6> planetmaker: #25 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/25 "2cc train set - Bug #25: Express coach 4th generation has a faulty offset - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 20:36:47 <planetmaker> :-D 20:37:55 <andythenorth> planetmaker: that link fails to trigger a download in my browser :P :( 20:43:57 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=952681#p952681 <-- posting with file 20:43:58 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - [OTTD] OpenGFX+ Airports (at www.tt-forums.net) 20:51:08 <andythenorth> planetmaker: do you happen to know which of 24 or 25 it is :) 20:51:55 <planetmaker> (x/y) = (146/8) 20:56:10 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I attached here 20:56:11 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=47475&p=953862#p953862 20:56:12 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - [OTTD] OpenGFX+ Airports (at www.tt-forums.net) 20:56:16 <andythenorth> not sure if it's 100% what you need 20:57:29 <planetmaker> hm, not bad, I think. I'll need it rotated 90° as well though :-) 20:58:05 <planetmaker> for the hangar facing SE :-) 21:04:04 <andythenorth> the shadow there would be somewhat different ;) 21:04:15 <andythenorth> it's possibly not worth making it darker for that case 21:05:26 * andythenorth checks 21:05:31 <andythenorth> I think it's ok for SE 21:05:50 <andythenorth> also 21:05:52 <andythenorth> bedtime 21:05:55 <andythenorth> good night 21:06:44 <planetmaker> but... bedtime is good 21:06:47 <planetmaker> good night :-) 21:07:04 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:12:44 <Hirundo> Yexo: I noticed the visual effect property is missing for RVs and ships 21:13:23 <Hirundo> For trains the equivalent property is called visual_effect_and_powered, but the powered part makes no sense 21:14:07 <Hirundo> Shall I just create a new property (and helper function) visual_effect, or do we want some more consistency here? 21:15:58 <Yexo> you can't easily one nfo property in two nml properties 21:17:05 <Ammler> [22:23] <planetmaker> hm, build on push? <-- no, build because last nightly failed... 21:18:04 <Hirundo> I meant, a new RV/ship property, not anything new for trains 21:20:45 <frosch123> isn't the cb good enough? 21:20:53 <frosch123> there is no rv length property either 21:21:44 <Hirundo> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0Ships <- the property is already there, only NML doesn't know it 21:21:45 <Webster> Title: Action0/Vehicles/Ships - GRFSpecs (at newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net) 21:22:23 <frosch123> oh :o 21:24:34 <Yexo> in that case go ahead an add a new property :) 21:24:52 <Hirundo> next question: how to name the callback [flag] ? 21:25:18 <Hirundo> add an alias VEH_CB_VISUAL_EFFECT for the existing VEH_CB_VISUAL_EFFECT_AND_POWERED? 21:33:30 <Yexo> sounds good 22:32:37 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1482:776d1c684d04: Doc: Various additions / fixes to the document... 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(Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/7c2f6ff1bc98 22:39:53 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:40:00 <Yexo> nice work Hirundo 22:42:07 <Hirundo> Actually I wanted to make a list of callbacks (in code) to prepare for #1555 22:42:08 <Brot6> Hirundo: #1555 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1555 "NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1555: Explicitly define callbacks - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 22:42:17 <Hirundo> Somehow though, I didn't quite get to that :) 22:47:22 *** bodis has quit IRC