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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 27th June 2011:
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07:08:13  <dihedral> Ammler: can you give me a hint how to install imagemagick on SuSE Enterprise Linux?
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09:37:35  <Ammler> dihedral: zypper in <package>
09:37:48  <Ammler> zypper is like debian aptitude
09:41:53  <Ammler> zypper in ImageMagick
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12:12:33  <dihedral> Ammler, it does not know ImageMagick :-P
12:12:40  <dihedral> i hate Novell
12:14:27  <Ammler> dihedral: well, you aren't a good suse admin then
12:14:38  <Ammler> it is for sure not the issue of novell
12:15:04  <Ammler> maybe the repo you are using doesn't have it
12:15:34  <dihedral> sels costs a bunch of money - at least the subscription does, which the client is paying
12:16:09  <dihedral> if i cannot install a simple package with one of the tools included in the system i will call their silly support
12:16:21  <Ammler> yep, that is good
12:16:28  <dihedral> it is not if they fail to help
12:16:31  <Ammler> what did they say?
12:16:34  <dihedral> for a silly silly package
12:16:52  <Ammler> you didn't setup it, right?
12:16:59  <dihedral> we did
12:17:17  <Ammler> what did the support tell?
12:17:26  <Ammler> why was "he" silly?
12:17:28  <dihedral> that they have no idea
12:17:49  <Ammler> I have no sle, they have private repos
12:18:00  <Ammler> imagemagick should be there
12:18:31  <dihedral> they started handing out different phone numbers once i mentioned to the head of that department that if i fail to get imagemagick installed today i'd get the client to move to another distri :-P
12:18:49  <dihedral> all i can get hold of is libMagickCore1 - which is merely a lib
12:18:53  <dihedral> i am missing the binaries
12:19:17  <dihedral> and i have no idea where silly sles places them, but i know that 'convert' is not on the system, nor is 'display'
12:19:37  <Ammler> /usr/bin, where else?
12:19:58  <dihedral> i would not be surprised if suse linux had it else where :-D
12:20:02  <Ammler> sle is not debian with all those uncommom strange locations
12:21:17  <dihedral> i'll advise the client to install redhat ^^
12:21:50  <Ammler> then you could use centos, it is quite much a clone and you could get the license money for your work
12:22:15  <dihedral> centos is behind at the moment
12:22:16  <Ammler> why don't you not recommend your favorite distro?
12:22:22  <dihedral> nah :-P
12:22:32  <Ammler> why do you setup a distro you have no clue about?
12:22:40  <dihedral> if they pay money for sles, they want to fork out money for some kind of subscription
12:22:51  <dihedral> because the client likes it :-P
12:23:34  <Ammler> I can assure you, there is openttd for sle :-)
12:24:01  <dihedral> lol
12:24:14  <Ammler> I can make a sle package in about five minutes, that is what suse makes the best distro, imo
12:24:29  <Ammler> thanks to OBS, they survived
12:24:32  <dihedral> so far i am not anywhere near impressed
12:25:04  <Ammler> I have no clue about the support
12:25:19  <dihedral> hehe
12:25:24  <Ammler> but I don't believe you, there is no ImageMagick either
12:25:33  <dihedral> we would have been better off installing a simple suse even
12:25:45  <Ammler> it is part of the standard repo in openSUSE
12:26:05  <Ammler> and afaik, they simply fork openSUSE from time to time to make SLE
12:26:30  <Ammler> well, fork and add the enterprice things
12:27:15  <Ammler> I would use openSUSE Tumbleweed in a company, then you have lifetime support for the same version :-)
12:37:03  <Ammler> [14:25] <dihedral> we would have been better off installing a simple suse even <-- that needs a yearly dup
12:39:20  <dihedral> :-P
12:39:49  <Ammler> I guess, SLE has longest support times from all available distros
12:39:59  <dihedral> "Tumbleweed"? that sounds like a harry potter something
12:40:22  <Ammler> hehe, that was joke, Tumbleweed is rolling distro of suse
12:40:45  <Ammler> no upgrade but lots updates :-P
12:42:09  <Ammler> I use quite a lot "Factory" repos on my desktop, with Tumbleweed I can get ride of those, and have a bit more stable packages
12:42:20  <Ammler> e.g. KDE 4.6.4
12:42:36  <Ammler> or kernel .39
12:49:00  <Ammler> in any case, you can build every suse package quite easy for SLE on obs
12:49:10  <Ammler> that is what a good suse admin does :-P
12:51:49  <Ammler> http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=imagemagick&baseproject=SUSE%3ASLE-11%3ASP1&lang=en&include_home=true
12:51:50  <Webster> Title: software.opensuse.org" target="_blank">software.opensuse.org: Search Results (at software.opensuse.org" target="_blank">software.opensuse.org)
12:55:28  <Ammler> [14:50] <Siju> 6.4.3.6-7.20.1 Repo SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-Server-11-SP1 11.1.1-1.152
13:02:27  <Ammler> for me it looks like you installed sle from DVD and forgot to add the repos
13:02:48  <Ammler> or you don't have a license to access the repo, no clue about those things
13:09:12  <Ammler> dihedral: but the biggest problem is, that you don't want it working :-P
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13:35:09  <dihedral> yay - i got through to the tech support
13:35:18  <dihedral> Ammler, believe me, i'd love for it to work
13:35:35  <dihedral> the tech support said they'd not help unless i submitted a support ticket throuth their website
13:35:44  <dihedral> but that part of the website is down :-P
13:35:50  <dihedral> and so they did not help
13:41:04  <dihedral> zypper se imagemagick
13:41:13  <dihedral>  | ImageMagick | Viewer and Converter for Images | srcpackage
13:41:19  <dihedral> hehe - but i cannot install it :-D
13:47:53  <Ammler> dihedral: you miss the repo
13:48:02  <Ammler> you just have the source repo
13:48:12  <Ammler> zypper lr -d
13:52:07  * dihedral is building from source now
13:53:40  <Ammler> lol
13:53:58  <Ammler> right way to use a enterprise distro :-P
13:54:35  <Ammler> you don't think, you should repair your broken repo config?
13:54:56  <Ammler> I mean, could be useful not just because of imagemagick
14:01:46  <dihedral> i'll get back to you for that :-D
14:02:01  <dihedral> i really cannot bare to mess around with that stupid thing any longer
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14:16:38  <Ammler> how do you install the build dependencies without repo?
14:23:27  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Airports - Revision 107:952b0d5067e0: Codechange: Include the direction in the templates... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/airportsplus/repository/revisions/952b0d5067e0
14:23:52  <planetmaker> before I forget what I did during today's train ride ;-)
14:24:31  <Brot6> airportsplus: update from r105 to r107 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/r107
14:26:31  <dihedral> Ammler, i have the DVD images
14:28:43  <Ammler> dihedral: so you are able to install something like gcc, but not imagemagick, also if those are on the same repo, this sounds strange
14:28:57  <dihedral> yep
14:29:21  <Ammler> maybe cleanup the db
14:29:33  <Ammler> zypper ref, clean...
14:29:58  <Ammler> and be sure to have the dvd in your repo list and active
14:30:00  <Ammler> zypper lr -d
14:30:23  <Ammler> (and the remote repos of course
14:52:19  <dihedral> 1 | SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-Server-11-SP1 11.1.1-1.152 | SUSE-Linux-Enterprise-Server-11-SP1 11.1.1-1.152 | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/sr0 |
14:57:45  <Ammler> did you refresh?
14:57:50  <Ammler> at least once
14:58:19  <Ammler> the repo seems matching the repo from Siju
15:04:20  <Ammler> dihedral: http://paste.opensuse.org/34759953
15:04:21  <Webster> Title: SUSE Paste (at paste.opensuse.org)
15:04:28  <Ammler> [17:04] <derRichard> Ammler: deinem kollegen wird das sdk fehlen *vermut*
15:06:50  <Ammler> http://www.novell.com/developer/sle_sdk.html
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16:08:26  <dihedral> Ammler, i'll get back to you tomorrow for that help, ok? ;-)
16:08:28  <dihedral> thank you
16:09:36  <Ammler> dihedral: well, I just forwarded #opensuse talk :-P
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17:09:59  <Brot6> nml: update from r1481 to r1486 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1486
17:18:22  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r107), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), cets (r5), chips (r143), comic-houses (r71), firs (r2095), firs.nml (r2081), fish (r653), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec
17:18:22  <Brot6> (r832), grfpack (r279), heqs (r605), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r296), nml (r1486), nutracks (r202), ogfx-industries (r121), ogfx-landscape (r70), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (r245), ogfx-trees (ERROR r51), opengfx (r678), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), sub-landscape (ERROR r66), sub-opengfx (ERROR r666), swedishrails (r202),
17:18:24  <Brot6> swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r34), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r672)
17:22:10  <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/narvs/nightlies/ERROR/r37
17:23:00  <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r121 still failed (#2792) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r121
17:26:30  <Brot6> sub-landscape: compile of r66 still failed (#2616) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r66
17:27:16  <Brot6> sub-opengfx: compile of r666 still failed (#2586) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r666
17:28:14  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus, belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), cets, frenchtowns, german-townnames, indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), newgrf_makefile, ogfx-landscape (Diffsize: 5459), ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 4590), ogfx-trains, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails (Diffsize: 4368), swisstowns
17:28:20  <andythenorth> hello
17:28:40  <planetmaker> !olleH
17:29:28  <andythenorth> ¿
17:32:16  <Terkhen> hi
18:18:47  <andythenorth> we have a FIRS 0.6.5 report from neko
18:18:52  <andythenorth> nothing wrong so far
18:19:03  <andythenorth> we need one from kogut - he's really good at spotting issues
18:31:08  <Terkhen> yes, that report is nothing we should worry about regarding the NML conversion :)
18:36:45  <andythenorth> I am happy to get positive reports
18:40:44  <Terkhen> :)
19:15:29  <Hirundo> Is there an easy way to detect (from inside a vehicle varaction2) if you're in the purchase list or not?
19:17:24  <Yexo> pick a different action2 in your action3
19:17:37  <Yexo> cargoid FF for purchase list
19:18:08  <Yexo> graphics { 0xFF: menu_switch_block; default_switch_block; } in nml
19:18:28  <Hirundo> I know that's possible of course
19:19:20  <Hirundo> you can also use a non-available var, it will always pick the first choice then
19:21:53  <Hirundo> I was hoping that var 43 would use OWNER_NONE in purchase or something like that
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21:33:37  <andythenorth> Hirundo: there is a way to do it - can't remember how, but might have been checking vehicle length
21:33:44  <andythenorth> length is 0 in buy menu iirc
21:33:50  <andythenorth> DJNekkid provided the method
21:35:13  <andythenorth> bye
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21:43:41  <Hirundo> DJNekkid: ^^ More info on that?
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23:54:41  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2814 (New): Monorail and maglev food vans appear to have missing sprites (nivlac) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2814

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