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00:06:22 *** Lakie has quit IRC 05:05:11 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:26:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:32:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:43:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 05:53:12 *** bodis has quit IRC 05:54:46 <planetmaker> I don't, Ammler . Please re-open it then ;-) 05:54:49 <planetmaker> also moin :-) 05:56:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:04:22 <planetmaker> hi andythenorth 06:04:32 <Ammler> it's not closed 06:05:08 <planetmaker> actually to me the 1st version with stones looked best 06:08:19 <planetmaker> andythenorth: and wrt ttd / opengfx compatibility: With layers it probably is easy to put the shores on top of any ground tile. And yes, it'd be nice to have your shores also for OpenGFX 06:22:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 06:35:20 <planetmaker> hm... 502 on hg pull -u for FIRS 06:35:48 <planetmaker> something suddenly sucks 06:36:01 <planetmaker> in the sense of making issues :-( 06:37:07 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:37:43 <planetmaker> hm... strange. web service works, though... 06:38:19 <planetmaker> and now needs authentication... very strange 06:40:43 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2128:1a81e3fcd760: Codechange: Name more strings (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1a81e3fcd760 06:40:43 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2129:becc481722ac: Change: Remove strings with wrong par... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/becc481722ac 06:41:18 <planetmaker> less warnings, andythenorth ^ ;-) 06:42:08 <andythenorth> great 06:42:25 <planetmaker> means more work for translators :-P 06:42:38 <andythenorth> are they going to be very annoyed? 06:42:57 <planetmaker> not much, I think. at most 3 strings removed 06:43:10 <andythenorth> 51 warnings remain 06:43:19 <planetmaker> and... it "hurts" me, too. As I did the same for German translations, too 06:43:41 <planetmaker> But I had the feeling the string's parameters need looking at anyway... so I rather deleted the translations 06:44:15 <planetmaker> yeah... all unused action2s 06:44:56 <planetmaker> hm, Ammler why do we use nginx 0.8.x when there's nginx 1.0.x? 06:45:30 <andythenorth> planetmaker: they're mostly tile action 2s 06:45:39 <planetmaker> hm, yeah 06:45:43 <andythenorth> I don't yet understand nml enough to fix them 06:46:03 <planetmaker> well, I'd slowly remove them, looking at the tiles which they implement 06:46:09 <andythenorth> also, due to the climate handling for tiles, for every 3 warnings, there's probably only one cause 06:46:24 <andythenorth> as all tiles are duplicated per climate 06:46:25 <planetmaker> of course one could just delete them... not sure, though whehter we loose something which we might later want 06:46:33 <andythenorth> exactly 06:46:41 <andythenorth> and then we get instead warnings about unused action 1 06:46:43 <andythenorth> maybe 06:48:47 <planetmaker> possibly 06:49:15 <planetmaker> hm.. why does FIRS set town build costs? And then not really changing it? 06:49:35 <planetmaker> same for town "action" costs, like bribery? 06:50:08 <planetmaker> ah... nvm. I know why :-) 06:50:59 <andythenorth> it has to 06:51:06 <andythenorth> it was a bug fix ;) 06:52:56 <andythenorth> #2825 06:52:56 <Brot6> andythenorth: #2825 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2825 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2825: Replace 'item_FEAT_INDUSTRIES_xx' strings with 'ind_name' strings - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 06:53:13 <andythenorth> planetmaker: ^ does that one interest you to sed? Otherwise I do it manually 06:53:25 <planetmaker> why don't you sed it? ;-) 06:53:55 <andythenorth> learning curve 06:54:25 <andythenorth> too much else going on in my life to learn a new tool right now 06:54:32 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2130:7d551202de2d: Codechange: Use nicer base cost const... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7d551202de2d 06:54:34 <planetmaker> sed -i.bak "s/oldstring/newstring" sprites/nml/*.pnml 06:54:39 <planetmaker> hm 06:54:46 <planetmaker> sed -i.bak "s/oldstring/newstring/g" sprites/nml/*.pnml 06:55:42 <andythenorth> how do you pattern match 'item_FEAT_INDUSTRIES_28' 06:55:44 <andythenorth> ? 06:55:57 <andythenorth> except replacing '28' with 'xy' 06:57:19 <andythenorth> I can't see how to do it in a scripted way without some kind of lookup table for oldstring:newstring 06:57:45 <planetmaker> sed -i.bak "s/item_FEAT_INDUSTRIES_28/industryname/g" sprites/nml/*.pnml 06:57:49 <planetmaker> for each separately 06:57:51 <andythenorth> ah 06:58:06 <andythenorth> I can do batch replace anyway, that's not traumatic 06:58:11 <andythenorth> I just do it 42 times 06:58:15 <planetmaker> what you can do is write a sed script: 06:58:27 <planetmaker> s/item_FEAT_INDUSTRIES_28/industryname/g 06:58:34 <planetmaker> each industry one line 06:58:38 <planetmaker> and then: 06:58:51 <planetmaker> sed -i.bak -f sedscript sprites/nml/*.pnml 06:58:53 <andythenorth> so there's no magic regexp way to do it? 06:58:55 <planetmaker> might be faster 06:59:08 <planetmaker> but this is the regex way 06:59:12 <andythenorth> oh ok 06:59:17 <planetmaker> guess what I did for strings 06:59:20 <andythenorth> I started writing a python script to do do it 06:59:30 <andythenorth> but I don't know how to open and save files 06:59:39 <planetmaker> you then don't 06:59:47 <planetmaker> just this one sed command does it ;-) 06:59:50 <andythenorth> I tried on my web framework, but 54k lines in a textarea crashes the browser 06:59:57 <planetmaker> it replaces in place ;-) 07:00:03 <planetmaker> saves much work 07:00:08 <planetmaker> and quite worth learning 07:00:46 <andythenorth> you use textmate? 07:01:12 <andythenorth> as your editor? 07:03:28 <planetmaker> I don't 07:03:32 <planetmaker> xcode 07:03:49 <planetmaker> or nedit on linux 07:03:59 <planetmaker> which has a nice "replace in all files" feature 07:04:18 <planetmaker> xcode doesn't though 07:06:05 <andythenorth> xcode can do 'replace in project' iirc 07:06:55 <andythenorth> anyway script sounds like the way to go 07:07:10 <andythenorth> and if it contains a mistake, at least can revert then reapply 07:07:26 <planetmaker> that's what I always did ;-) 07:07:37 <planetmaker> run. revert. fix. return to 1 ;-) 07:07:49 <planetmaker> and after 10 iterations commit :-P 07:08:32 <andythenorth> to make that work I also have to learn how to write a shell script :P 07:08:40 <andythenorth> which is fine 07:10:56 <planetmaker> well, you don't. Just call that line in the xterm 07:10:59 <planetmaker> no script needed 07:11:26 <andythenorth> so just stick 42 sed commands in a file, then call it? 07:11:35 <andythenorth> seems simple 07:11:56 <planetmaker> yes 07:12:02 <planetmaker> it's that simple :-) 07:12:03 <andythenorth> right 07:12:25 <planetmaker> the file has 42 lines which read s/old/new/g 07:12:35 <andythenorth> ok 07:12:43 <planetmaker> and the command is sed -i.bak -f filename sprites/nml/*.pnml 07:12:53 <planetmaker> you can then delete later usually all *.bak files 07:15:47 <andythenorth> thanks 07:15:51 <andythenorth> will try later 07:16:32 * andythenorth -> work and such 07:16:35 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 08:31:34 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1507:d96b0ebc2899: Fix: unicode gender names resulted in an inter... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/d96b0ebc2899 08:32:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2131:ba3a6b169110: Codechange: only use stringcodes in t... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ba3a6b169110 09:03:44 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1508:a251cd5a5aa5: Add: var 0x12 game_mode (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/a251cd5a5aa5 09:05:45 <Ammler> [08:44] <planetmaker> hm, Ammler why do we use nginx 0.8.x when there's nginx 1.0.x? <-- how you know? 09:06:01 <Hirundo> Yexo: game_mode is already available via actionD, although I admit it contains a humiliating typo 09:07:06 <Yexo> Hirundo: ah, didn't realise that 09:07:12 <Yexo> however in this case the duplication is actually useful 09:07:48 <Yexo> it leads to slightly more efficient code without any possible inconsistency 09:08:23 <Hirundo> true 09:08:40 <Hirundo> *fixes* 09:09:47 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1509:1abb74969e0c: Fix: game_mode is parameter 92, not 82. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/1abb74969e0c 09:12:09 <Ammler> planetmaker: why do you need a update of nginx? 09:22:47 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Bug #2708: DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2708#change-7027 09:23:29 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2132:fae3c04394bc: Codechange: use nearby_tile_class ins... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/fae3c04394bc 09:23:29 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2133:7fecae683bd7: Codechange: use variable names instea... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7fecae683bd7 10:52:57 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:10:20 <planetmaker> Ammler: mostly I wonder... and whether it might be related to the occasional gateway problem 11:10:22 <planetmaker> because otherwise you always want to use the latest version of everything you can get your hand on 11:10:23 <planetmaker> and I thought we once used already a (much) newer nginx 11:10:25 <planetmaker> and we might want to also for security reasons 11:10:54 <Ammler> the mercurial updates are for a reason 11:11:08 <Ammler> I usually do not update whithout reason :-P 11:11:21 <Ammler> nginx is a custom build 11:11:30 <Ammler> so not that easy to update 11:13:06 <Ammler> I guess, I try (g)unicorn for rails and python, then we could also use it for the paste 11:13:29 <Ammler> or do you get somewehere else gateway issue? 11:22:22 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/raw-file/tip/docs/index.html <-- 502 11:22:32 <planetmaker> so yes, I do get gateway issues elsewhere 11:23:04 <planetmaker> and updating a webserver two revisions behind the last stable is a security issue, not a convenience one 11:28:30 <Ammler> hmm 11:28:34 <Ammler> that is auth error 11:29:08 <Ammler> why the hell does that happen :-( 11:30:03 <Ammler> this is uwsgi issue, not nginx 11:31:27 <Ammler> planetmaker: can you reproduce it? 11:32:47 <planetmaker> reproduce the 502 on the nml page? 11:32:53 <planetmaker> yes, still appears 11:33:05 <planetmaker> hm, actually not now 11:33:13 <Ammler> yes, I restarted uwsgi 11:33:32 <planetmaker> still, with nginx: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2010-4180 in 0.9.3 11:33:36 <Ammler> but I have no clue, when it 11:37:15 <Ammler> well, 0.9 was never stable... 11:37:31 <Ammler> there is 0.8 legacy and 1.0 stable 11:37:42 <planetmaker> yes, like linux ;-) 11:38:22 <Ammler> but I might switch and try unicorn sooner 11:38:36 <Ammler> then I will also upgrade nginx 11:39:13 <Ammler> uwsgi seems not that good as I thought 12:12:03 *** TheODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:15:25 *** ODM has quit IRC 12:51:37 *** FooBar has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:52:26 <FooBar> Hi y'all! 12:52:35 <FooBar> I seem to be able to access this still :P 12:55:48 <Terkhen> hi FooBar 12:56:18 <FooBar> Ah, there actually are people on here :) 12:58:41 <Terkhen> :P 13:04:29 <planetmaker> oh hi :-) 13:05:02 <FooBar> Anyways, I came up with the idea to redo the dutch tramset in NML... If anybody has any tips than that will be greatly appreciated 13:05:06 <FooBar> hi planetmaker 13:05:30 <FooBar> Or maybe there are no tips and I should just start :P 13:05:37 <planetmaker> FooBar: should be easy to do. Go right ahead and probably use OpenGFX+ RV as inspiration on how that code works 13:05:50 <FooBar> that's a good idea 13:05:54 <FooBar> I'll check that out 13:06:07 <planetmaker> and... update the makefile framework - or copy it from opengfx+rv 13:06:09 <Ammler> you can also help to convert firs to nml :-P 13:06:14 <planetmaker> it needs updates then as well 13:06:21 <planetmaker> hehe, yes :-) 13:06:34 <Ammler> oh and hi FooBar :-) 13:06:44 <FooBar> I downloaded the latest stable of the makefile already 13:06:51 <planetmaker> FooBar: or... you kindly ask yexo about the grf2nml conversion script(s) / parts of NML ;-) 13:06:51 <FooBar> hi Ammler 13:07:01 <planetmaker> we just did use that on FIRS 13:07:13 <planetmaker> and it works. But of course requires quite a bit of tidying then now 13:08:26 <FooBar> I think I'll first give it a whirl from scratch; that should make it easier to understand. If it then proves a lot of work to do the whole thing, I might be easily persuaded to try grf2nml :P 13:09:17 <FooBar> Also this time I dumped Ubuntu in favour of Fedora 13:15:36 <Ammler> hehe, you should work with linux, not replace it everytime beforey you touch it :-P 13:16:54 <FooBar> couldn't find the old setup after a recent format 13:17:17 <FooBar> so I figured setting up a new one would be more educational than finding the old one 13:20:39 <FooBar> plus I found the ubuntu-colours very depressing :P 13:21:04 <FooBar> might have changed in the meantime, but I'm happy with Fedora now 13:23:17 <FooBar> Trying to build ogfx-rv now (to see if everything works). Getting this "(gimp:20177): GLib-WARNING **: goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0" warning, is that bad? 13:24:06 <Ammler> happens on the build server too 13:24:49 <FooBar> ok, good 13:26:11 <FooBar> well, maybe not good, but good enough :) 13:30:47 <FooBar> How must I see this gimp dependency of ogfx-rv? Does it generate the png files from the orginal sources? 13:31:19 <Terkhen> FooBar: yes, it generates the different png files from layered xcf files 13:31:25 <Terkhen> it is not a requirement for nml, just a little experiment :) 13:31:38 <FooBar> nice 13:32:37 <FooBar> I don't have layered sources for dutch tram set, so I can't use those anyways. 13:33:12 <FooBar> Interesting experiment though 13:35:17 <Ammler> it is similar to the script thing Zeph uses 13:36:34 <FooBar> well, everything seems to work wrt compiling ogfx-rv, so I must've set up everything properly 13:37:11 <FooBar> by the way, I documented the whole setup here: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/FooBar%27s_Note-To-Self 13:37:16 <Ammler> setup nml on linux is no big task 13:38:06 <FooBar> no really, you just need to get all this stuff and read the readmes properly 13:38:21 <FooBar> that was supposed to be "not really" :P 13:38:26 <Ammler> hmm 13:38:48 <Ammler> you should in general look for binaries before you build yourself 13:39:01 <Ammler> e.g. pil is python-imaging 13:39:09 <Ammler> no need to build 13:40:27 <FooBar> hmmm, readme told me to get it here: http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ 13:40:28 <Webster> Title: Python Imaging Library (PIL) (at www.pythonware.com) 13:40:41 <Ammler> yeah, that is the "windows way" 13:40:52 <Ammler> linux user does never build self :-P 13:40:58 <Ammler> or download something from upstream 13:41:05 <FooBar> well, I'm not a linux user :P 13:41:35 <Ammler> yeah, just a tip for next time, linux users try to be efficent 13:42:36 <FooBar> well, I decided to be efficient on grfcodec/nforenum, as I couldn't get it to find boost with no effort at all 13:42:50 <Ammler> yum install grfcodec 13:42:53 <Ammler> yum install nml 13:42:56 <Ammler> and done 13:43:04 <Ammler> yum source-install nml 13:43:16 <Ammler> if you like to build self 13:43:39 <FooBar> hmmm, that's even easier. I downloaded from website an copied to bin... 13:43:58 <FooBar> can you get ply somewhere in the package manager as well? 13:44:07 <Ammler> yum install pyhton-ply 13:44:14 <Ammler> python* 13:44:36 <FooBar> thanks 13:44:43 <FooBar> I'll update my note-to-self then :P 13:46:22 <FooBar> I didn't think this was all available from the package manager 13:46:36 <Ammler> yes, fedora is good 13:47:36 <FooBar> well, I did something good then by choosing fedora :P 13:47:48 <Ammler> if you miss something openttd related, you get it here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/openttdcoop/Fedora_15/ 13:49:38 <FooBar> package manager doesn't seem to find nml though 13:49:58 <Ammler> yep, that would need the repo above 13:50:18 <Ammler> opengfx yet doesn't require it so no need for packager to add it 13:50:58 <Ammler> but nml you need te dev version anyway, the package would just help to install dependencies 13:51:38 <Ammler> so just install pyl and pil 13:51:52 <Ammler> and then clone the repo and symlink nmlc to ~/bin 13:53:56 <FooBar> ok 14:28:15 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:24:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:55:27 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:02:57 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:10:16 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1018 17:10:17 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:10:24 <Brot6> nml: update from r1506 to r1509 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1509 17:16:35 *** Guest1018 has quit IRC 17:18:50 <andythenorth> do I need to update my nml? 17:18:54 <andythenorth> FIRS fails to build 17:19:16 <andythenorth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/310/ 17:19:36 <Brot6> firs: update from r2127 to r2133 done (51 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2133 17:20:44 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r107), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), cets (r5), chips (r143), comic-houses (r71), firs.nml (r2081), fish (r655), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec (r832), grfpack 17:20:44 <Brot6> (r279), heqs (r605), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r296), nml (r1509), nutracks (r202), ogfx-industries (r121), ogfx-landscape (r70), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (r245), ogfx-trees (r51), opengfx (r681), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r203), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r34), ttrs (r36), 17:20:48 <Brot6> worldairlinersset (r672) 17:24:16 <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/narvs/nightlies/ERROR/r37 17:25:10 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r121 still failed (#2792) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r121 17:29:38 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus (Diffsize: 15915), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), cets, frenchtowns, german-townnames, indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), newgrf_makefile, ogfx-landscape (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 5460), ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 4590), ogfx-trains, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails, swisstowns 17:29:44 <andythenorth> FIRS fixed 17:29:49 <andythenorth> by new nml :P 17:37:36 <planetmaker> andythenorth: did you start with industry names yet? 17:37:41 <andythenorth> no 17:37:44 <andythenorth> day job :) 17:37:45 <planetmaker> good. I did :-P 17:37:48 <andythenorth> now it's bath time 17:37:58 <andythenorth> it would be good practice for me to learn how to sed 17:38:03 <andythenorth> but I have obligations ;) 17:38:12 <andythenorth> and I could usefully do drawing and such 17:38:13 <planetmaker> talks talks talks :-P 17:38:18 <andythenorth> division of labour :P 17:38:42 <andythenorth> planetmaker: you're at a conference or such? 17:39:25 <planetmaker> "or such": I'm at the drop tower... helping collegues with their experiment there 17:39:45 <planetmaker> so... 18h shifts ;-) 17:40:42 <planetmaker> they just like to do stuff complicated ususally :S 17:40:56 <Terkhen> wow :O 17:41:11 <planetmaker> well, maybe 16 hours 17:41:13 <planetmaker> depends 17:42:16 * andythenorth is about to fall off wifi - again :P 17:42:40 <planetmaker> the problem is: we have to be there short before 8am - then we have to hand over our experiment to the drop tower team... and from the 2nd flight in a day we only get back the experiment at around 7pm 17:43:04 <planetmaker> and then we need to do the still the preparation for the next day, brief data analysis etc... 17:43:11 <planetmaker> I'm just waiting for image downloads ;-) 17:43:49 <planetmaker> Well... maybe I can go home tomorrow :) 17:44:05 * andythenorth contemplates drawing more rivers 17:44:10 <andythenorth> I am a fool to myself 17:44:17 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 17:44:29 <planetmaker> andythenorth: do you draw it as overlay to the ground sprites? 17:44:33 <andythenorth> I ask for feeback, and then I am annoyed when I get it :P 17:44:38 <planetmaker> that'd be really helpful :-) 17:44:45 <planetmaker> :-D 17:44:55 <andythenorth> it won't gain much 17:45:02 <planetmaker> apropos feedback, andythenorth: did I tell you that I prefer the stony version? 17:45:06 <andythenorth> yes 17:45:10 <planetmaker> ok :-P 17:45:25 <andythenorth> TTD original shores aren't stony 17:45:29 <andythenorth> I stick with the convention 17:45:35 <planetmaker> TTD original has no rivers 17:46:01 <andythenorth> it has coasts => convention established :P 17:46:13 <planetmaker> not really 17:46:22 <planetmaker> sea shores are quite different from river shores 17:46:43 <planetmaker> convention may often be an argument, but it's IMHO ill-used here 17:47:15 <Ammler> I asked andythenorth to show us sandy river shores :-) 17:48:15 <planetmaker> :-) 17:48:18 <Ammler> I don't think, sand would stay long in a river 17:48:28 <andythenorth> the baby just fell over in the bath. I think I need to pay more attention :P 17:48:31 <andythenorth> bbl 17:48:39 <planetmaker> oh, I know such shores, but yes...very rare 17:49:44 <Ammler> then it is big river like nile or so 17:49:57 <planetmaker> yeah. 17:51:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2134:c4eba15ddaa6: Codechange: Name custom industries' i... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c4eba15ddaa6 17:51:25 <planetmaker> now remain the bad ones which have no names ;) 17:57:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:57:40 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:11:45 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:32:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:32:35 * andythenorth has successfully avoided drowning the baby 18:35:41 <andythenorth> ok 18:35:45 <andythenorth> I've removed all sand from the river shores 18:35:50 <andythenorth> they'll just be green 18:37:07 <FooBar> Sandy river shore (see in the background): http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand:Arnhem_Nederrijn_ochtend_apr04.jpg 18:37:09 <Webster> Title: Bestand:Arnhem Nederrijn ochtend apr04.jpg - Wikipedia (at nl.wikipedia.org) 18:38:33 <FooBar> Basically sandy shores only occur downstream, because larger sediment has settled early; the light sand is transported to the very end and into the sea 18:39:36 <FooBar> Humans usually reinforce river shores with stone, in order to keep the river in place. 18:39:49 <andythenorth> http://tt-foundry.com/misc/better_shores_7.png 18:40:20 <FooBar> But as long as it looks good, it will be fine for a game 18:40:42 <FooBar> And that seems quite alright! 18:41:30 <Brot6> openttd.grf water-features - Revision 25:142ede6c10a2: Change: make shores colour of terrain (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/water-features/repository/revisions/142ede6c10a2 18:43:13 <andythenorth> planetmaker: how many FIRS strings have you done? should I work from the bottom of the list? 18:56:35 <Ammler> not sure, if the no-sand shores are better 18:57:26 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:59:47 <planetmaker> andythenorth: you mean the STR_GENERIC_XYZ ? 19:00:05 <andythenorth> sorry I meant industry id strings 19:00:15 <andythenorth> changing to ind_dairyfarm etc 19:00:19 <planetmaker> I've done those which I could name without looking at anything but the string 19:00:39 <planetmaker> oh, so... not the strings, but the identifiers? 19:00:50 <andythenorth> yup 19:01:19 <planetmaker> there I also renamed all - but those which have no name string 19:01:24 <planetmaker> thus the original ones 19:01:30 <andythenorth> ok 19:01:36 <andythenorth> thanks 19:01:48 <planetmaker> there I didn't know which is which 19:01:59 <planetmaker> at least I skipped that for now as I'm sure you don't have toy factory in FIRS :-P 19:03:04 <planetmaker> and I ended up with one ID having that number... so I was confused, had no time left and started to first do the obvious stuff 19:03:08 <andythenorth> hmm 19:03:15 <andythenorth> is it committed? 19:03:17 <planetmaker> yes 19:03:23 <andythenorth> oh 19:03:35 <planetmaker> [19:51] Brot6 FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2134:c4eba15ddaa6: Codechange: Name custom industries' i... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c4eba15ddaa6 19:03:41 <andythenorth> tada 19:03:43 <andythenorth> ok great 19:04:11 <andythenorth> that's better already 19:04:28 <andythenorth> I hate looking in the god_object file :) 19:04:31 <andythenorth> needs splitting 19:04:46 <andythenorth> for next task I guess 19:06:03 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2825 (Closed): Replace 'item_FEAT_INDUSTRIES_xx' strings... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2825 19:06:03 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2825 (Closed): Replace 'item_FEAT_INDUSTRIES_xx' strings... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2825#change-7028 19:08:13 <planetmaker> well... not all such identifiers (they're not strings!) are replaced... 19:08:28 <planetmaker> as said... there are ones which I couldn't quickly identify 19:08:35 <andythenorth> is identifier the official nml term? 19:08:41 <planetmaker> as they're most probably generic 19:08:57 <andythenorth> there are some which are probably generic tiles 19:09:00 <planetmaker> string is a string is something the user sees 19:09:01 <planetmaker> identifier is a name for an internal 'object' 19:09:08 <planetmaker> which are general terms used in IT ;-) 19:09:10 <andythenorth> to me it looks like a string :P 19:09:25 <andythenorth> because I'm wrong 19:09:27 <planetmaker> calling a variable a 'string' is equally confusing 19:09:37 <andythenorth> I'm wrong 19:09:47 <planetmaker> except when a variable is a string :-P 19:31:32 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest1028 19:31:32 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:35:30 *** Guest1028 has quit IRC 20:20:05 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:27:26 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:07:55 *** TheODM has quit IRC 21:12:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2135:6869db22784e: Change: work in progress on Sugar Ref... 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(yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/289a00079689 23:14:27 <Ammler> oh yexo 23:14:37 <Ammler> did you get troubles with push? 23:15:00 <Ammler> I was just switching the mercurial backends 23:15:15 <Ammler> maybe you push with ssh 23:17:07 <Ammler> anyway, hgweb (hg.o.o, push.o.o has now new backend with gunicorn) 23:17:42 <Brot6> test: update from r111 to r112 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/test/push/r112 23:38:31 <Ammler> @topic add HGWeb Backend changed to Gunicorn, please report issues 23:38:39 <Ammler> @services op 23:38:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 23:38:41 <Ammler> @topic add HGWeb Backend changed to Gunicorn, please report issues 23:38:41 *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames | HGWeb Backend changed to Gunicorn, please report issues"