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00:00:11  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2206:1a5975b8ae9f: Add: Template for showing extra text ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1a5975b8ae9f
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04:20:37  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2207:2973c8b1f8dc: Codechange: Apply production and extr... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2973c8b1f8dc
04:20:37  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2851: New wagons - complete (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2851#change-7176
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07:06:36  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2214:ee82e36bdedd: Codechange: Rename the variable stori... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ee82e36bdedd
07:06:36  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2215:6af0668808f9: Add: Template for extra text handling... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6af0668808f9
07:29:39  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 108:ea4f3221f513: Added more templates, rest will be made i... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/ea4f3221f513
07:32:15  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2784 (Closed): graphics template (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2784#change-7177
08:35:51  <Terkhen> planetmaker: it's "safe" to commit now? :P
08:39:19  <Terkhen> hmm... s/it's/is it/
08:46:27  <planetmaker> yes, it is
08:46:52  <planetmaker> I'm working on the primary industry production change / closure template
08:47:21  <planetmaker> using sheep farm as my "test" industry
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08:54:01  <Terkhen> ok :)
08:56:04  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2216:f758b9d57ddc: Cleanup: Remove "empty" switches from... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f758b9d57ddc
09:15:52  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2851: New wagons - complete (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2851#change-7178
09:56:27  <frosch123> he, did pikka mistype, or did he indeed switch from custom license to cc-by
09:57:12  <frosch123> hmm, though iirc his custom license was similar to cc-by
10:03:07  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2903 (New): Allow graphics filenames as parameter for templates (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2903
10:03:07  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2903: Allow graphics filenames as parameter for templates (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2903#change-7179
10:03:44  <planetmaker> where, frosch123?
10:10:06  <frosch123> bananas
10:10:18  <frosch123> newest addition
10:11:32  <planetmaker> hm, interesting.
10:15:38  <planetmaker> he did indeed change license it seems
10:15:49  <planetmaker> Earlier releases of that NewGRF featured his custom license
10:16:12  <planetmaker> which basically was non-license (i.e. you were not allowed anything)
10:35:03  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2217:0f787241dbf0: Add: Production change template for p... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/0f787241dbf0
10:35:03  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2218:a54e2f2250d8: Codechange: Apply the production chan... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a54e2f2250d8
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10:47:26  <andythenorth> hola
10:48:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2219:cfe88c62a770: Fix (r2215): Also undefine the string... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/cfe88c62a770
10:49:12  <planetmaker> salut andythenorth
10:49:36  <andythenorth> the templates are starting to make more sense now
10:49:44  <planetmaker> :-)
10:50:09  <planetmaker> I rewrote the secondary production template from scratch
10:50:22  <andythenorth> makes sense
10:50:22  <planetmaker> it is now a bit more flexible and only one is needed
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10:50:40  <planetmaker> you can define the influence of the three cargos on eachother's ratio
10:50:46  <andythenorth> it bothered me that there was so much duplication previously
10:50:51  <andythenorth> but it was the only sane way
10:51:11  <planetmaker> but ouput will always be 50:50
10:51:16  <planetmaker> but that's no change ;-)
10:52:54  <andythenorth> planetmaker: wouldn't it be handy if we could run test games with logging, to verify production?
10:53:19  <andythenorth> in fact...wouldn't it be handy if we could push values onto  'cargo received'
10:53:39  <andythenorth> testing production is a PITA because the whole chain often has to be established
10:53:53  <planetmaker> we store the received cargo...
10:55:48  <andythenorth> that would imply testing by adjusting FIRS code?
10:55:53  <andythenorth> then reverting it?
10:56:25  <andythenorth> or something else?
10:56:34  <andythenorth> I was thinking of being able to do it from within ottd
10:56:35  <planetmaker> hu?
10:56:49  <planetmaker> I don't understand the point you're trying to make
10:57:21  <andythenorth> thinking of ways to ease testing production code
10:57:26  <planetmaker> yes. And?
10:57:32  <planetmaker> did you look at the debug string?
10:58:01  <planetmaker> you got ratios, you got input, you got date and industries have a var which gives you 'produced this month'
10:58:42  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2903 (Closed): Allow graphics filenames as parameter for templates (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2903
10:58:42  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2903 (Closed): Allow graphics filenames as parameter for templates (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2903#change-7180
10:58:42  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1560:6780ae1998ff: Fix #2903: Restructure real sprite code a bit,... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6780ae1998ff
10:58:45  <planetmaker> date as in 'last delivered cargo type XY'
10:58:49  <andythenorth> yup
10:59:04  <Hirundo> We could create a button 'deliver cargo to industry' in ottd, enabled only with newgrf devtools
10:59:17  <andythenorth> that's exactly what I was thinking
10:59:22  <planetmaker> hm, interesting idea, Hirundo :-)
10:59:24  <Hirundo> which would spawn some cargo ex nihilo and deliver it
10:59:36  <andythenorth> just push it onto the stockpile
10:59:44  <andythenorth> use a text field for each of the input cargos
10:59:53  <andythenorth> next time the production cb runs it will be used
11:00:28  <andythenorth> avoids repeating the hours-and-hours of setting up networks and watching numbers that I had to do for the nfo version
11:00:58  <andythenorth> so boring :P
11:01:19  <andythenorth> new map, cheat money, build industries, build routes, build vehicles, turn on fast forward, wait
11:01:23  <andythenorth> read numbers :P
11:02:14  <andythenorth> start stop vehicles to stagger delivery times to test different ratios
11:02:16  <andythenorth> rinse repeat
11:02:32  <andythenorth> every time I change production code, repeat again to check I didn't introduce bugs
11:03:10  <andythenorth> it's why this remains unfixed for so long: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2507
11:03:12  * Hirundo ponders patching
11:03:29  <planetmaker> the biggest part is probably the UI to that
11:04:07  <Hirundo> long time since I did non-trivial patching :)
11:05:49  <andythenorth> it would go in the industry newgrf debug window yes/no?
11:06:05  <Hirundo> yes
11:06:08  <andythenorth> would work similar to some of the vars that can have parameters st
11:06:10  <andythenorth> set /s
11:14:01  <Hirundo> I'm just pondering how to do that, without excessively hacking the debug GUI
11:16:07  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2903: Allow graphics filenames as parameter for templates (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2903#change-7181
11:16:22  <frosch123> allow editing some of the variables?
11:16:34  <planetmaker> basically yes
11:16:40  <planetmaker> waiting_cargo_1...3
11:16:48  <planetmaker> i.e. magically deliver stuff
11:16:59  <frosch123> though the waiting_cargo are not shown irrc, as it is already in the normal gui
11:17:16  <Hirundo> they are shown
11:17:46  <planetmaker> well, actually it'd be better if not the variables were changed, but the whole 'cargo delivered thing' triggered, including callback
11:18:04  <planetmaker> just changing waiting cargo would not trigger that, I guess
11:18:09  <Brot6> Dutch Tram Set - Feature #2904 (Assigned): Make compatible with RC (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2904
11:18:22  <Hirundo> In C++ code that's quite possible
11:18:42  <Hirundo> it's just the GUI that needs thinking
11:19:49  <Hirundo> Perhaps, add a write-callback (default = NULL) to each variable, if not NULL the variable is writabe
11:20:49  <Hirundo> Then the callback can be used to trigger industry production code / callbacks
11:22:39  <Hirundo> it may be better though, to decouple this from the existing structure entirely
11:29:10  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1561:f98ea92ec0d7: Doc: Improve template documentation somewhat. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/f98ea92ec0d7
11:30:05  <Brot6> feed NewGRFs had 12 updates, showing the latest 10
11:30:05  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2222:5417adc73739: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5417adc73739
11:30:05  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2223:6f2069f59266: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6f2069f59266
11:30:05  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2220:d3c2f1cadc8c: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d3c2f1cadc8c
11:30:09  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2225:30f99469ea3f: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/30f99469ea3f
11:30:15  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2226:9bf4b4db7273: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9bf4b4db7273
11:30:19  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2227:898dc2c8561e: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/898dc2c8561e
11:30:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2228:b9921279b2ea: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b9921279b2ea
11:30:24  <andythenorth> planetmaker: ^ enjoying yourself? :D
11:30:27  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2229:8734f677ab3a: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8734f677ab3a
11:30:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2230:ba35bd77252b: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ba35bd77252b
11:30:35  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2231:c0aea72cec87: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c0aea72cec87
11:30:37  <planetmaker> moderately. Was rather boring actually
11:30:44  <andythenorth> it's fun to commit
11:30:52  <planetmaker> yep ;-)
11:30:57  <planetmaker> hg qfinish -a
11:31:06  <planetmaker> makes for VERY fast commit succession :-P
11:32:44  <Ammler> hmm, you should also add date to patches if you do it this way
11:32:44  * planetmaker found that using a mq on FIRS makes actually very much sense in order to separate single things which belong into a common context, though
11:32:57  <planetmaker> date?
11:33:00  <Ammler> -D
11:33:21  <planetmaker> sorry, I don't understand :-)
11:33:31  <Ammler> like you add messages
11:33:48  <planetmaker> why should I add a date?
11:34:01  <planetmaker> the commit message is written upon patch creation.
11:34:05  <planetmaker> not upon qfinish
11:34:08  <Ammler> then it would use the date when you create/refresh the patch, not when you finish it
11:34:42  <planetmaker> but I want the date to be the commit time
11:35:04  <Ammler> ok, you are indeed still svn infected :-P
11:35:10  <planetmaker> no
11:35:48  <planetmaker> setting date means I always have to set it upon qrefresh (which is tedious at least)
11:35:55  <Ammler> no
11:36:02  <Ammler> it uses the date of refresh
11:36:02  <frosch123> that patch creation date is of no use
11:36:03  <planetmaker> and the commit time to the repo is what counts
11:36:06  <Ammler> (I think)
11:36:11  <frosch123> best would be the push date
11:36:22  <frosch123> but that kind of does not work :p
11:36:26  <Ammler> frosch123: yes, that is how svn works
11:36:39  <frosch123> no, that's what everyone else is interested in
11:36:43  <Ammler> on hg, it does not matter
11:37:02  <planetmaker> Ammler: I want the patch to bear the time when I actually decide that it is good
11:37:10  <frosch123> who is interested in whether i started a patch a year ago and only finished it today?
11:37:12  <planetmaker> And when I do a mq, then obviously things depend on eachother
11:37:15  <Ammler> planetmaker: then you can refresh
11:37:58  <planetmaker> so I'll have a time order of D, A, H, B, C, E, G, F?
11:38:01  <planetmaker> what use is that?
11:38:12  <Ammler> well, I also said "you should", I see you have other meaning, it does not really matter :-)
11:39:46  <Ammler> frosch123: as said, you should also refresh the date, afaik it does that automatically if once done
11:40:16  <frosch123> Ammler: also the devzone will order that revisions in the wrong order
11:40:27  <planetmaker> Ammler: but the whole mq only becomes meaningful once I decide to commit it...
11:40:35  <Ammler> devzone does order according to revision, not date
11:40:47  <frosch123> it did not the last time i checked
11:41:16  <Ammler> well, you might confuse repository and activity page
11:41:23  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/activity <-- it does not, Ammler
11:41:26  <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ttdviewer/activity?from=2011-05-01
11:41:34  <frosch123> yeah, activity page
11:41:35  <Ammler> that is the whole point
11:41:47  <Ammler> activity is time ordered
11:43:53  <Ammler> planetmaker: also instead mq, you could push a (unnamed) branch (local bookmark), and if finished merge
11:44:13  <planetmaker> yes, I could
11:44:19  <Ammler> :-)
11:44:26  <planetmaker> But that'd leave every single bug fix in the main repo
11:44:32  <Ammler> which is fine
11:44:41  <Ammler> it is in a branch
11:45:12  <planetmaker> but it's uniteresting to follow my typos
11:45:29  <planetmaker> and my renaming of newly introduced variables and stuff
11:46:05  <Ammler> as said, because it is in "your" branch, it does not hurt
11:46:17  <planetmaker> and there's no hg qpop -a; sed -i.bak "s/blah/bluh/g" .hg/patches/*.diff; hg qpush -a
11:46:36  <planetmaker> yeah, but nor is it needed ;-)
11:47:00  <Ammler> depends how old the patch is
11:47:12  <planetmaker> that only makes sense if others would then also work on that branch or it'd live for more than a mere few hours
11:48:26  <Ammler> yes, in that cases you will push your branch when it is merged already
11:49:00  <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 6:01f6be58bea5: fix performance issue in FindInTownAirportPlacement (Zuu) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/01f6be58bea5
11:49:28  <Ammler> at least such merges are more valid as the "forgotten pull" merges ;-)
11:52:48  <planetmaker> forgotten pull is one of the reasons to use mq ;-)
11:54:44  <Ammler> well, there you can use rebase
12:13:06  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 109:fd23d594ddf4: adjust 16lu vehicles from 4+4+8 to 4+4+4+... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/fd23d594ddf4
12:15:29  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2851: New wagons - complete (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2851#change-7182
12:34:35  <Brot6> SuperLib - Revision 7:92206ea0442a: + Vehicle.GetProfitTHisAndLastYear (Zuu) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/superlib/repository/revisions/92206ea0442a
12:43:00  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1562:b8f11851d581: Add: Some constants for slopes. Doc: Improve d... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/b8f11851d581
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15:46:49  <Ammler> bitbucket allows push via svn
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15:59:26  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1563:e9c6a7e40b91: Add: Builtin function num_corners_raised(<slop... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e9c6a7e40b91
17:07:23  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2905 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2905
17:15:39  <Ammler> ah, stupid me :-)
17:15:45  <Ammler> cleaned up too much
17:16:27  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2905: DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2905#change-7183
17:20:42  <Brot6> firs: update from r2213 to r2231 done (38 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2231
17:21:05  <Terkhen> the recycling plant is not enabled right?
17:22:21  <Brot6> nml-dot-wine: update from  to Bart done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml-dot-wine/releases/Bart
17:23:29  <Brot6> cets: update from r103 to r109 done (442 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r109
17:24:44  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: ogfx-trains (r245), narvs (r37), bros (r52), ogfx-industries (r122), sub-landscape (r72), opengfx (r681), ailib-tile (r16), transrapidtrackset (r28), 2cctrainset (r750), ailib-list (r32), opensfx (r97), ttdviewer (r34), worldairlinersset (r672), heqs (r605), openmsx (r97), basecosts (r25), nutracks (r202), nml (ERROR r1563), 32bpp-extra (r40), manindu (r7), newgrf_makefile (r305),
17:24:44  <Brot6> ailib-direction (r17), ailib-common (r21), snowlinemod (r49), dutchtramset (r84), ai-admiralai (r75), swisstowns (r22), metrotrackset (r56), spanishtowns (r10), frenchtowns (r6), grfpack (r279), ogfx-rv (r107), fish (r669), ogfx-landscape (r71), ttrs (r36), source-test (r2), ogfx-trees (r51), swedishrails (r203), grfcodec (r832), ai-aroai (r39), german-townnames (r34), smts (r19), chips (r143), belarusiantowns (r8), indonesiantowns
17:24:46  <Brot6> (r41), ailib-string (r29), airportsplus (r107), comic-houses (r71)
17:25:24  <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/narvs/nightlies/ERROR/r37
17:26:08  <Brot6> sub-landscape: compile of r72 still failed (#2892) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r72
17:27:28  <Brot6> dutchtramset: compile of r84 still failed (#2899) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtramset/nightlies/ERROR/r84
17:33:45  <Brot6> nml: update from r1559 to r1563 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1563
17:37:34  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 119:bada66accf2b: - fix bug when doing a dual route getting invalid paramet... (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/bada66accf2b
17:38:14  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2905 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2905
17:38:14  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2905 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2905#change-7184
17:39:10  <Ammler> what is Hudson for in firs?
17:39:20  <andythenorth> nothing
17:39:29  <andythenorth> I was fooling with it to see what it did
17:39:33  <andythenorth> remove it if you like ;)
17:39:42  <Ammler> I don't care, was just wondering :-)
17:40:00  <Ammler> I have no access to settings there
17:40:20  <Ammler> (removed admin flag from my account)
17:41:44  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 110:656e044e4df1: offset correction for 4lu template (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/656e044e4df1
17:58:48  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 111:214f5ba922b0: small sprite alignment fix (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/214f5ba922b0
18:00:58  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2221:54ba165104c5: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/54ba165104c5
18:00:58  <Brot6> Japanese Town Names - Revision 0:aa17421c1e7b: Initial commit (sylf@kozue) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/jptowns/repository/revisions/aa17421c1e7b
18:00:58  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2232:b522d77dc1d0: Add: Template for availability checks (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b522d77dc1d0
18:05:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2223:6f2069f59266: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6f2069f59266
18:05:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2228:b9921279b2ea: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b9921279b2ea
18:05:59  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 670:a8ec4d66b509: Change: improve appearance of Freshney canal boat (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/a8ec4d66b509
18:06:21  <planetmaker> hm... why is brot again and again highlighting me?
18:06:30  <planetmaker> thos commits are looong past....
18:07:01  <planetmaker> ^ Any idea Ammler?
18:07:01  <V453000> it hates you
18:07:24  <planetmaker> Brot sometimes just randomly posts a commit message... Like hours later without any user activity
18:11:19  <Ammler> planetmaker: could happen during projects movements or ticket deletion or whatever
18:11:55  <Ammler> such things could change the feed and so brot is confused
18:12:24  <planetmaker> Ammler: today morning at 7am no-one surely did anything
18:12:43  <planetmaker> on FIRS. The only thing it spawn was to re-chew a commit message from yesterday
18:12:59  <Rubidium> that must've been me...
18:13:33  <Rubidium> sounds like the time I thought... I guess I can sleep some longer. That must've triggered it
18:14:24  <Ammler> well, activity page tells something else, 2 commits from you at 7
18:14:42  <Ammler> 06:57 Revision 2214:ee82e36bdedd: Codechange: Rename the variable storing the delivered supplies
18:14:53  * Terkhen wonders how did he manage to create a "Read past end of pseudo-sprite" with nml
18:14:59  <Terkhen> *error
18:15:18  <planetmaker> hm... I must then still been sleeping :-P
18:15:47  <planetmaker> not good, Terkhen :-(
18:15:51  <Rubidium> is it reporting UTC or CET or CEST?
18:16:48  <Ammler> Rubidium: I guess you can set the TZ
18:17:13  <planetmaker> it's reporting local time
18:17:36  <planetmaker> hm... depends on settings, I guess
18:17:37  <Rubidium> here there are things at 09:00-ish and 06:20-ish
18:17:43  <Rubidium> from brot
18:17:50  <Ammler> I use UTC
18:18:08  <planetmaker> I commited around 9am. So, that's ok, Ammler. But I got some highlight when I woke up and logged in
18:18:14  <planetmaker> which probably was then 6:20h or so
18:18:46  <Ammler> planetmaker: well, it seems like you use date for your patches?
18:19:04  <Ammler> as the dates don't go with revs
18:19:52  <Ammler> so this mixes the activity page and confuses brot
18:20:18  <planetmaker> Ammler: I use nothing fancy... just defaults...
18:20:32  <Ammler> nah, you set for example the message, don't you?
18:20:33  * planetmaker compiles stable
18:20:39  <planetmaker> well, sure
18:20:53  <planetmaker> hg qnew blah.diff -m "Add: some stuff"
18:21:10  <planetmaker> or directly hg ci -m "REmove: All interesting stuff"
18:21:27  <planetmaker> nothing else
18:21:30  <Ammler> hmm, please check the commit dates of your last changes, are those good?
18:21:41  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions
18:22:17  <planetmaker> might be correct
18:22:26  <Ammler> and you just pushed?
18:22:39  <Ammler> or when did you push?
18:23:07  <planetmaker> I might have pulled then. But not now when it re-posted those three commits
18:23:23  <planetmaker> and I pushed basically always after a commit
18:23:35  <planetmaker> no point to keep it gathering dust here and forcing re-bases
18:24:13  <planetmaker> usual way is hg pull -u; hg ci or hg qpop -a; hg pull -u; hg qpush -a
18:24:21  <planetmaker> and then hg qfinish -a; hg push
18:24:38  <planetmaker> but I only use mq for the really longer things
18:24:46  <Ammler> again, you really should use date
18:24:57  <Ammler> it might be possible your commits have all the same time
18:25:04  <Ammler> which does not make sense
18:25:29  <planetmaker> Ammler: only if I use qfinish. And... if you look at the history, barly two have the same minute
18:25:46  <Ammler> all commits are from 11.29
18:25:47  <planetmaker> and even so...
18:25:57  <Ammler> how can you make so much work in one minute?
18:26:06  <Ammler> that is plain wrong
18:26:28  <planetmaker> Ammler: but how does that explain brot randomly quoting commits before that time?
18:26:43  <Ammler> I assume, the activity page changes the order randomly
18:26:47  <Hirundo> Terkhen: Do you have more info on the "read past end of pseudo sprite" error? what sprite/action causes it?
18:27:02  <Ammler> when cache is rewritten, which happen during the commit from Terkhen
18:27:02  <Terkhen> Hirundo: it is part of a quite big patch, I'm trying to isolate the problem
18:27:31  <Rubidium> Terkhen: tried to decode it and nforenum? That might give some clues
18:27:56  <Terkhen> good idea, I'll try that thanks
18:27:58  <Hirundo> nml can output somewhat commented / formatted nfo, that might be easier
18:28:00  <Ammler> planetmaker: lol, your commits are not just from same minute, those are from same second
18:28:12  <planetmaker> :-) I'm quick :-P
18:28:14  <Ammler> I guess, redmine is able to distinguish seconds
18:28:23  <Ammler> but how should it sort then?
18:28:30  <planetmaker> by revision, of course
18:28:39  <Hirundo> "nmlc firs.nml --nfo=firs.nfo" <- to output nfo
18:28:40  <Ammler> planetmaker: tell that the git guys :-P
18:28:53  <planetmaker> why git?
18:28:57  <Ammler> well, anyway you see the point
18:29:19  <Ammler> just don't cheat the date and you won't get highlighted
18:29:23  <planetmaker> also git has a unique history of which version follows which
18:29:36  <planetmaker> I don't :-)
18:29:43  <Ammler> planetmaker: yes, but we announce the timeline, not the revision log
18:30:02  <Ammler> we could split those, if you want
18:30:16  <Ammler> but I would prefer you don't cheat
18:30:42  <Ammler> we have already quite lot feeds
18:31:16  <Terkhen> IMO qfinish should take care of this, having to specify dates defeats the whole point of using queues
18:31:20  <Ammler> afaik, you simply can use -D
18:31:27  <Ammler> you could make it an alias
18:31:46  <planetmaker> one can use -D. But that'd mess the temporal sequence, too
18:31:49  <Ammler> Terkhen: yes, it is able, but someone needs to use it
18:31:56  <planetmaker> I do not necessarily write a patch queue in the correct order
18:31:58  <Terkhen> I mean automatically
18:32:01  <planetmaker> on the contrary
18:32:18  <Ammler> Terkhen: planetmaker abuses it
18:32:22  <Terkhen> how?
18:32:24  <planetmaker> ^
18:32:28  <Ammler> he should use branches for his workflow
18:32:32  <planetmaker> that's IMHO as it's supposed to work
18:32:41  <planetmaker> and why should I use branches?
18:32:57  <Terkhen> if I understood it correctly he's just using qfinish
18:32:59  <planetmaker> it feels like I'm doing exactly what it is supposed to faciliate
18:33:05  <planetmaker> yes, I do
18:33:16  <Terkhen> that's why I said that qfinish should take care of time and date
18:33:22  <Ammler> Terkhen: yes, but he does that so he don't need to rebase
18:33:30  <planetmaker> Ammler: no
18:33:30  <Ammler> not to manage patches :-)
18:33:42  <planetmaker> of course I manage patches that way
18:33:50  <Ammler> well, never mind
18:33:52  <planetmaker> they may well depend on eachother
18:34:08  <Ammler> you asked why you got highlihgts, I answered and gave solutions
18:34:15  <planetmaker> :-)
18:34:18  <Ammler> you don't need to follow :-P
18:35:12  <Ammler> planetmaker: in any case, you cheat the date
18:35:14  <Hirundo> Terkhen: Could you paste the firs.nml that causes the error?
18:36:08  <Ammler> as qfinish is not the commit
18:36:18  <Ammler> qfinish just "moves" the commit
18:37:29  <Terkhen> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/389/ <--- this is the output of nforenum... I have not compared with a FIRS version without my patch, but it looks wrong (I downloaded the latest nightly)
18:37:29  <planetmaker> http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MqTutorial#Mq_for_the_impatient <-- well, hg docs tell me that it's the right way
18:37:31  <Webster> Title: MqTutorial - Mercurial (at mercurial.selenic.com)
18:38:10  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2224:996bea266def: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/996bea266def
18:38:10  <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2907 (New): Monorail Hopper Wagons (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2907
18:38:40  <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/firs.nml <--- and this is the nml file
18:38:54  <Ammler> planetmaker: hehe, it does not tell you not using -D
18:40:03  <Ammler> mq from 2007 is not the same as mq now
18:42:40  <planetmaker> that's quite true, though
18:45:33  *** tneo- is now known as tneo
18:46:16  <Ammler> I will see, if I can patch redmine to sort additional for revs, but you should fix your workflow too :-P
18:50:16  <planetmaker> Ammler: don't worry. But we might want to report it upstream
18:50:32  <planetmaker> it's after all IMHO either a hg or a redmine issue. or both
18:50:37  <Hirundo> Terkhen: I gotta go now, will look into it later
18:50:55  <Ammler> planetmaker: "we" fixed it upstream already by adding seconds
18:51:29  <Ammler> well, I have now a example for lots of changes in same seconds
18:52:12  <Ammler> hg and redmine changessets view is fine
18:52:20  <Ammler> it is just bad in activity
19:05:54  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r22692 to r22700 done (6 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r22700
19:06:49  <planetmaker> you're NUTS, V453000 ;-)
19:06:58  <Terkhen> Hirundo: ok, I'll try to see which file and which changes are causing it :)
19:07:04  <Terkhen> enjoy
19:07:16  <V453000> planetmaker: am I? :)
19:09:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2220:d3c2f1cadc8c: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d3c2f1cadc8c
19:09:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2231:c0aea72cec87: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c0aea72cec87
19:09:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2227:898dc2c8561e: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/898dc2c8561e
19:09:25  <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2908 (New): Commuter Train 01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2908
19:09:39  <Rubidium> invisible trains! ;)
19:10:32  <Brot6> openttd-vehiclevars: update from r22692 to r22700 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openttd-vehiclevars/testing/r22700
19:11:02  <V453000> Hey that is not invisible! :D
19:11:18  <Rubidium> but it's unrealistic!
19:11:28  <V453000> F. yes.
19:13:22  <andythenorth> rocket trains!
19:14:41  <V453000> sure thing
19:15:29  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r22692 to r22700 done (10 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/r22700
19:15:51  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2230:ba35bd77252b: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ba35bd77252b
19:15:51  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2226:9bf4b4db7273: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9bf4b4db7273
19:15:51  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2224:996bea266def: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/996bea266def
19:15:53  <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2908: Commuter Train 01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2908#change-7185
19:17:26  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r22700 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r22700
19:28:06  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2221:54ba165104c5: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/54ba165104c5
19:28:07  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2222:5417adc73739: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5417adc73739
19:28:07  <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2909 (New): Maglev Train 02 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2909
19:45:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2227:898dc2c8561e: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/898dc2c8561e
19:45:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2231:c0aea72cec87: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c0aea72cec87
19:45:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2229:8734f677ab3a: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8734f677ab3a
19:45:48  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 671:284de25993d5: Change: improved Freshney Canal Boat (including tanker sprites) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/284de25993d5
19:46:09  <planetmaker> right...
19:47:27  <Rubidium> stable server isn't stable?
19:52:53  <planetmaker> hm?
19:53:08  <planetmaker> oh, that's not openttd...
19:59:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2222:5417adc73739: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/5417adc73739
19:59:48  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2221:54ba165104c5: Codechange: Apply extra text and prod... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/54ba165104c5
19:59:48  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 672:6bfdcb6a73aa: Change: hatch cover sprites for Freshney Canal Boat (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/6bfdcb6a73aa
20:32:16  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 673:6ad8c5daf522: Change: wake sprites for Freshney Canal Boat (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/6ad8c5daf522
20:32:24  <andythenorth> canal boat done
20:32:31  <andythenorth> done done, onto the next one
20:34:05  <V453000> fishies :)
20:44:06  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 674:6d0695d1f0d0: Feature: stats set for Freshney Canal Boat (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/6d0695d1f0d0
20:44:54  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2886 (Closed): Complete sprites + stats Freshney freighter (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2886#change-7187
20:52:27  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Revision 11:fed788a84975: Feature: auto-detect (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/foobarstramtracks/repository/revisions/fed788a84975
20:52:28  <andythenorth> one more boat to draw and I can release the thing :P
20:52:28  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Revision 12:06c07e02bfa8: Feature: game version check (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/foobarstramtracks/repository/revisions/06c07e02bfa8
20:54:05  <planetmaker> :-)
20:54:20  <FooBar> Does anybody fancy translating FooBar's Tram Tracks?
20:54:30  <FooBar> Otherwise I will go ahead and release it
20:55:02  <planetmaker> well, sure. where's the language file?
20:55:45  <FooBar> here you are: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/foobarstramtracks/repository/show/lang
20:56:21  <planetmaker> thx
20:57:35  <FooBar> Funny how 0.26 MB of source can produce a grf of 1.76 MB :P
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21:00:31  <FooBar> Heh, the decoded spritesheet is "only" 20 megapixel
21:01:27  <FooBar> Hmmm, doesn't NML crop by default?
21:01:45  <FooBar> surely that could save something
21:03:33  <planetmaker> FooBar: what about ogfx+landscape support?
21:03:44  <planetmaker> FooBar: -c
21:04:13  <FooBar> How much does ogfx+landscape differ from the default opengfx?
21:04:25  <FooBar> Just the gridlines?
21:04:28  <planetmaker> not much. But you can select climate independent of climate
21:04:41  <FooBar> Oh, that's rather fancy
21:04:58  <FooBar> challenge accepted :P
21:05:03  <planetmaker> :-)
21:05:16  <FooBar> but not today
21:05:32  <FooBar> I have a strong urge to watch some simpsons episodes
21:07:14  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Feature #2910 (Assigned): OpenGFX+ landscape support (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2910
21:11:06  <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/392/
21:11:12  <planetmaker> ^ German translation
21:11:53  <FooBar> Vielen Dank!
21:20:56  <FooBar> well, -c has proven useful. From 1.76 to 1.24. And the latter includes the German translation. Still big for what it does though, but that's not my problem.
21:22:30  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Revision 13:a92c0d4ec338: Feature: German translation (planetmaker) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/foobarstramtracks/repository/revisions/a92c0d4ec338
21:22:30  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Revision 14:17d7abcff654: Change: let NML crop sprites to reduce filesize (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/foobarstramtracks/repository/revisions/17d7abcff654
21:49:43  <planetmaker> hm... I wonder why I didn't make -c the default...
21:56:56  * Zuu likes the variable snow line support in OpenGFX Airport+  :-)
21:57:32  <planetmaker> :-)
21:58:15  <planetmaker> though it's "just" snowline support. The variability comes from elsewhere ;-)
22:03:11  <Zuu> Yep, but it is nice that it is compatible with the variable snowline and shift from grass to snow as the seasons change.
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