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01:22:55 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3068: end piece for hard shoulders and third lanes (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3068#change-7892 06:22:33 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3081 (New): Update tree sprites in buildings / roads (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3081 07:37:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:03:32 <Ammler> is tt-forums "handbags Canada" already on the ban queue? 08:05:22 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:05:24 <Ammler> he spammed already yesterday and still, bad job mods :-P 08:40:47 <Brot6> Unrealistic Trainset - Feature #2876: Maglev Tanker #01 (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2876#change-7893 10:42:14 <V453000> hi guys, dont you know which wagons in 2cc set are 4/8 long and eventually where can I find the sprites with coordinates & offsets? 11:00:39 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:13:33 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:34:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:21:21 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 14:22:02 *** dihedral has quit IRC 14:22:16 *** dihedral has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:25:15 *** seberoth has quit IRC 14:25:45 *** seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:16:42 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:17:01 * planetmaker has too many patches for FIRS 15:23:36 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/firs/fences/conditional_fence.diff <-- better method to add fences, Terkhen ? (i.e. the same was as buildings and groundtiles) 15:23:52 <planetmaker> s/groundtiles/groundsprites/ 15:24:05 <planetmaker> no variables needed either 15:24:09 <planetmaker> and no initialization 15:51:42 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 22723 15:51:42 <Webster> planetmaker: 58C3 15:51:58 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 120058c3 15:51:58 <Webster> planetmaker: 302012611 15:53:11 <frosch123> doesn't 0x12000000 + 22723 work? 15:53:24 <planetmaker> probably it would :-) 15:53:36 <frosch123> resp. why is there no function for it :p 15:53:53 <planetmaker> so... what do I have to enter in bananas to allow download from that revision or later? :-) 15:54:09 <planetmaker> @calc 0x12000000 + 22723 15:54:09 <Webster> planetmaker: 302012611 15:54:13 <planetmaker> ^ works ;-) 15:54:15 <frosch123> oh, i assumed you were doing nml 15:54:43 <planetmaker> well, there is :-) openttd_version(1,2,0,22723) 15:54:57 <planetmaker> or version_openttd. I always confuse that 15:56:27 <planetmaker> or I'll do it easy... allow 1.1.3 and have users see that they'll need a nightly ;-) 15:56:37 <planetmaker> like promoting use of nightly revisions... hm... :-) 16:10:08 <frosch123> night 16:10:13 <frosch123> i am gone for the weekend :) 16:10:17 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 16:12:57 <Hirundo> planetmaker: Can't the slope checks for fences be done via some bit tests? 16:13:29 <planetmaker> maybe. But I have this code and it works :-) 16:14:11 <planetmaker> (for the detection of which fence is needed) 16:51:53 <planetmaker> hm... seems I've hit a boundary... I fear it might be action2 ID - related http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/580/ 16:58:29 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3082 (Confirmed): internal error when running out of temp. storage (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3082 17:00:15 <planetmaker> hum... now, how to conveniently reduce usage of temp storage :-) 17:18:53 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:25:24 <Terkhen> planetmaker: looks fine to me :) 17:25:30 <Terkhen> it should remove the old method 17:27:39 <planetmaker> we need then add fences in the spritelayouts where we want them. But that's clearer IMHO 17:27:51 <planetmaker> But... I ran out of temp. storage when I wanted to include slopes :-P 17:28:12 <planetmaker> and still do... :S 17:28:53 <Terkhen> hmm 17:29:23 <Terkhen> how did you manage to use all temp storage? :P 17:29:36 <planetmaker> well, see the bug report #3082 17:29:36 <Brot6> planetmaker: well: #3082 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3082 "NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3082: internal error when running out of temp. storage - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 17:30:00 <planetmaker> but obviously 255 temp. storage (or 128?) is not enough :-P 17:31:26 <planetmaker> I fear that this way we use the templates uses LOTS of temp. storage while the old (but less clear way) by calculating stuff ourselves uses less 17:33:41 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:55:31 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest10563 17:55:32 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:04:48 <Yexo> planetmaker: I think this line: sprite: sprites( (nearby_tile_slope(0, 0) == 4 || ne.... is the problem 18:05:22 <Terkhen> I find it strange, 0x100 temp storages should be enough for everything 18:05:35 <Yexo> if you use them efficiently yes ;) 18:05:51 <Yexo> not saying the newgrf is at fault here 18:05:57 <Terkhen> :P 18:06:45 <planetmaker> Yexo, it only triggered after I added the slope_to_sprite_offset(nearby_tile_slope(0, 0)) to the "ground_aware_spritelayout" as addition to the flat ground tile sprites 18:09:15 <planetmaker> but indeed, other places may be more of a ressource / storage eater 18:43:55 *** JVassie has quit IRC 18:57:48 <andythenorth> ow 18:57:54 * andythenorth has seriously too little sleep 18:57:57 <andythenorth> and too much awake 18:58:09 <Terkhen> luckily that issue has a cure :P 18:58:12 <planetmaker> hi andythenorth 18:58:22 <planetmaker> good night :P 18:58:39 <planetmaker> send your baby to bed (it's sleeping time for him anyway, not?) and do so yourself :P 18:59:59 <andythenorth> he's going to bed 19:00:01 <andythenorth> I'm not :P 19:00:12 <planetmaker> he 19:00:18 <andythenorth> I have committed or shipped nothing today except tweeter 19:00:29 <planetmaker> so? 19:00:48 <planetmaker> andythenorth: I found us fences :-) 19:00:54 <andythenorth> good 19:01:09 <V453000> does anyone know where to get a 4/8 template for wagons in nml please? 19:01:12 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/changes/src/gfx/fencesCC_bush1.png 19:01:16 * andythenorth needs to 'do stuff' daily :P 19:01:22 <andythenorth> tweeter is work, but doesn't count 19:01:31 <planetmaker> V453000: probably so far nowhere 19:01:39 <V453000> hm, thats what I thought :) 19:01:52 <planetmaker> get to pikka-wiki and create one from the nfo template 19:02:02 <andythenorth> planetmaker: those work for me 19:02:05 <andythenorth> for farms yes? 19:02:09 <planetmaker> yes, my idea 19:02:37 <V453000> ok :) did that, though 8/8 did not work or my coder did not manage to make it work :d 19:02:44 <andythenorth> planetmaker: go for it 19:03:00 <planetmaker> I've been working of a new fence template... which has them included the same way like ground sprites or buildings 19:03:03 <planetmaker> might be better? 19:03:19 <planetmaker> than the current convoluted process of initialization - which I forgot myself already :-D 19:03:42 <Terkhen> :) 19:04:04 <planetmaker> using such fence template would mean to include some fences for industries in a similar template like the fences I showed above 19:04:05 * andythenorth has no idea either way :) 19:04:09 <planetmaker> :-) 19:04:21 * andythenorth would expect to set params or such somewhere 19:04:22 <andythenorth> maybe 19:04:45 <planetmaker> but... I ran out of temporary variables when trying to fit it all :-D 19:04:55 <planetmaker> thus I'm not sure I want to proceed :-) 19:05:05 <andythenorth> :o 19:05:13 <planetmaker> nml crashed before my pache queue was done :-) 19:05:19 <planetmaker> *patch 19:07:29 <planetmaker> but the biggest problem currently is: our ground aware template doesn't allow slopes 19:09:06 <andythenorth> is that just because it hasn't been coded that way? 19:09:19 <andythenorth> or is it related to cb2f etc? 19:09:54 <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r22939 still failed (#2964) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r22939 19:11:40 <planetmaker> the template simply is not coded to take care of them 19:11:47 <planetmaker> it always uses the flat tile 19:12:36 * planetmaker tests whether that thing can be fixed in principle 19:12:55 <planetmaker> I guess easily... then the fences will come later and I'll have to be light on variables there 19:13:04 <planetmaker> hm, yes, easily fixed... now check ingame 19:18:14 <planetmaker> hm.... no. 19:18:26 <planetmaker> It needs a separate template when we use foundations or not 19:18:31 <planetmaker> but well. Can be done 19:18:53 <planetmaker> Just the same with a different name and slope-awareness 19:20:12 <Brot6> openttd-vehiclevars: update from r22934 to r22939 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openttd-vehiclevars/testing/r22939 19:21:13 <planetmaker> is SLOPE_AWARE_SPRITELAYOUT a good name? Analogue to GROUND_AWARE_SPRITELAYOUT which it would replace for cases where we need slopes? 19:21:27 <planetmaker> then I'd just add that template 19:22:59 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r22939 still failed (#2966) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r22939 19:25:56 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r22939 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r22939 19:26:34 <Terkhen> if we need so many templates maybe we shouldn't template :P 19:27:24 <planetmaker> :-) It's not that many really. But slope-awareness is not needed on foundations. And actually fails there 19:28:03 <planetmaker> But we could just use one template. And call it FIRS-template ;-) 19:32:02 <Terkhen> :P 19:32:19 <Terkhen> I don't know if a single template would be better than two 19:32:28 <Terkhen> too many factors to take into account 19:32:34 <Terkhen> just do it in the way you find simpler :P 19:33:05 <planetmaker> well. I know no way to actually do that in one template 19:33:11 <Terkhen> then two :) 19:33:18 <andythenorth> one template is likely hideously complicated 19:33:22 <planetmaker> I cannot query whether autoslope / foundations is activated or not 19:33:23 <andythenorth> god object 19:35:47 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2602:ff9c86fbf4a0: Add: SLOPE_AWARE_SPRITELAYOUT for use... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ff9c86fbf4a0 19:39:23 <planetmaker> We will need that template :-) 20:00:44 *** hanf has quit IRC 20:15:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2603:7bee6544cf90: Codechange: Use the ground aware spri... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7bee6544cf90 20:32:57 * andythenorth admits defeat by sleep 20:35:08 <andythenorth> goon dight 20:35:12 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:43:27 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:48:10 <planetmaker> Hirundo: I guess you're right, there's potential in the tile slopes with fences 20:48:13 * planetmaker tests 20:53:02 <planetmaker> nmlc: "sprites/nml/industries/dairy_farm.pnml", line 34: Using spritesets with different sizes in a single sprite group / layout is not possible <-- meh :P 20:57:38 * planetmaker needs support for r22926 ;-) 21:12:27 <Yexo> as discussed, after 0.2 ;) 21:12:50 <planetmaker> :-) 21:13:04 <planetmaker> No easy fence template before that then ;-) 21:16:53 <planetmaker> but FIRS has enought to do without fences 22:30:35 *** ODM has quit IRC