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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 24th October 2011:
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05:16:33  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 315:5997a21204df: simplify sorting a bit (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/5997a21204df
05:16:34  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 316:186325c6d5a7: articulated parts for DBAG 481 and 474. r... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/186325c6d5a7
05:16:34  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 317:3064919379b9: articulated parts for DRG ET171, DB ET170... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/3064919379b9
05:22:29  <Brot6> cets: update from r314 to r317 done (348 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r317
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08:44:35  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Feature #3185 (Assigned): action 5 offsets (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3185
09:00:13  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Feature #3185: action 5 offsets (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3185#change-8407
09:08:31  <Brot6> FooBar's Tram Tracks - Feature #3185: action 5 offsets (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3185#change-8408
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10:04:52  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 318:8eb40641afdc: articulated part for V 188 (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/8eb40641afdc
10:11:10  <Brot6> cets: update from r317 to r318 done (345 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r318
11:00:57  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 319:0b3248d0ad99: articulated parts for 420, 614 and VT 24.... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/0b3248d0ad99
11:06:27  <Brot6> cets: update from r318 to r319 done (333 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r319
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14:24:16  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 320:a1c5987f4ccf: articulated parts for VT08/12/ET30/56 (ca... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/a1c5987f4ccf
14:29:46  <Brot6> cets: update from r319 to r320 done (315 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r320
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14:55:13  <Ammler> Yexo: it does make sense to build on push and nightly
14:55:29  <Ammler> as push does not keep that many verions
14:56:07  <Ammler> (iirc, you once asked that here and I wanted to answer ;-)
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15:23:32  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3186 (New): pointless exec flags (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3186
15:29:28  <Ammler> are you sure, heffer uses head?
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16:04:44  <Yexo> yes
16:07:39  <Ammler> you should also cleanup docs, the html files are still there
16:07:40  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3186 (Closed): pointless exec flags (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3186
16:07:40  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1704:28b4478f11f8: Fix #3186: some files still had executable per... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/28b4478f11f8
16:07:40  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3186 (Closed): pointless exec flags (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3186#change-8409
16:08:40  <Ammler> people like heffer could accidentially add those to the package
16:09:03  <Yexo> I know, I'll do so before the release
16:10:23  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Code Review #3187 (New): Remove docs/*.html (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3187
16:13:24  <Ammler> just link to 0.1.1 docs instead rename index.html
16:14:43  <Ammler> https://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/raw-file/0.1.1/docs/index.html
16:16:07  <planetmaker> Ammler, I didn't check anything when I opened the report... But without this reminder I surely would forget to check that when I do have time (though of course y3xo now already looked at it)
16:16:38  <planetmaker> That's what the checkbox 'confirmed' is for ;-)
16:16:46  <planetmaker> which I didn't use ;-)
16:17:23  <planetmaker> I wonder thought that these things didn't or don't show in the rpm building of the devzone
16:18:48  <Ammler> are you sure, those don't
16:19:01  <Ammler> iirc, I was the guy reported that issue last time
16:19:53  <Ammler> hmm, maybe rpmlint got missing?
16:21:29  <planetmaker> well. I use the bug tracker also as reminder for un-verified reports. Which imho is one of the purposes of a bug tracker, too. And no, I still didn't check
16:21:49  <planetmaker> The distinction is the 'confirmed' flag which can be set.
16:30:52  <Ammler> well, I can not confirm the issue
16:30:57  <Ammler> ah, yexo fixed it
16:33:20  <Ammler> also you can still request from Alberth a update for the hook :-)
16:37:33  <Brot6> Dutch Train Set - Bug #3188 (New): Class 58 (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3188
16:39:05  <Brot6> Dutch Train Set - Bug #3189 (New): Wrong Speed TRAXX (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3189
16:41:35  <Brot6> Dutch Train Set - Bug #3190 (New): Disabling other tracktypes (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3190
17:10:28  <Brot6> nml: update from r1702 to r1704 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1704
17:23:29  <Brot6> cets: update from r314 to r320 done (315 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r320
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17:51:36  <Brot6> vactrainset: compile of r1 still failed (#3044) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/vactrainset/nightlies/ERROR/r1
18:06:12  <Brot6> airportsplus: rebuild of r146 done (Diffsize: 948437) (DiffDiffsize: 947479) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/r146/log
18:06:15  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-trains, narvs (11 warnings) (Diffsize: 39), ogfx-industries (1 warnings), firs (2 warnings), opengfx (Diffsize: 7), foobarstramtracks (Diffsize: 37022), manindu (Diffsize: 2), newgrf_makefile, rust (Diffsize: 37), ogfx-biggui, dutchtramset (Diffsize: 25988), swisstowns (Diffsize: 39), dutchroadfurniture (Diffsize: 2045), spanishtowns (Diffsize:
18:06:15  <Brot6> 8), frenchtowns (Diffsize: 21), ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 40), ogfx-landscape (2 warnings), swedishrails (Diffsize: 204), german-townnames (Diffsize: 39), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 63), indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 21)
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18:34:13  <frosch123> hmm, apparently there are different things called "global variables" in the specs
18:56:32  <planetmaker> hm, you refer to what I changed / linked today, frosch123?
18:57:17  <planetmaker> I see that the action0 variables / settings are another thing than the varaction2/action7/9/D variables
18:57:30  <planetmaker> maybe the action0 should be called settings, not variables
18:57:49  <frosch123> the original idea of those tables on the frontpages were to refer to the features
18:57:50  <planetmaker> as they're set, not only read
18:57:55  <frosch123> where feature 8 is "general variables"
18:58:03  <planetmaker> yes...
18:58:08  <planetmaker> General settings?
18:58:12  <frosch123> only used in action 0 and maybe the ambient sound callback
18:58:34  <planetmaker> yes, I see that. But I was constantly searching that page which was only linked in 2, 3 levels deep
18:58:35  <frosch123> while the "global variables" of act7/9 actually belong to no feature
18:58:40  <planetmaker> And... it's global :-)
18:58:45  <planetmaker> But yes
18:59:05  <frosch123> it could be linked next to varact2 and advvaract2
18:59:08  <planetmaker> you got a point. But... does it matter? In this one special case?
18:59:22  <frosch123> yeah, i was wondering that
18:59:39  <frosch123> currently i am worried that vars 5f, 7x get totally lost
18:59:53  <planetmaker> hm, where are they documented?
19:00:00  <frosch123> on varact2 page
19:00:02  <planetmaker> 5F, the random bits surely won't get lost
19:00:37  <frosch123> planetmaker: my main concern wrt. feature 8 is that noone should think he would have to access "current year" using an varaction2 with feature 8
19:01:13  <frosch123> so i would rather not put the link into the table
19:01:46  <planetmaker> Hm, yes... though I never thought of it that way with this particular feature, tbh. But might be better
19:02:10  <planetmaker> Then it should go directly above or below that table
19:02:29  <frosch123> yeah, except then you have two items called "global variables" :p
19:03:07  <planetmaker> hm. I'd like to rename the feat. 08 to "Global Settings"
19:03:07  <frosch123> maybe we should cut the "variables" from feature 8
19:03:10  <frosch123> i.e. only "global"
19:04:00  <frosch123> yeah, or "global settings"
19:04:15  <planetmaker> I'd be happy about a better description, though
19:04:33  <planetmaker> Settings for "plural forms" or "grf override" sounds a bit strange to me, too
19:05:16  <frosch123> "misc. stuff"? :p
19:05:28  <planetmaker> :-D
19:06:23  <planetmaker> Global defines?
19:06:34  <planetmaker> as it currently has no variables :-)
19:07:09  <frosch123> i like "global settings"
19:07:51  <planetmaker> ok. Then we use that
19:08:10  <planetmaker> And move the global variables as a separate point immediately above the variables for all features?
19:08:23  <planetmaker> as that's where I "need" them
19:08:30  <frosch123> yes
19:13:12  <planetmaker> *should* be done now. Except re-directs in some cases (those which are automatically created)
19:17:04  <planetmaker> hm, the style guide is linked nowhere anymore... should be in the sidebar, right?
19:17:29  <planetmaker> nvm. It's there
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19:20:30  <frosch123> yeah, the "link from where" does not work for the sidebar :)
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19:32:19  <planetmaker> och, you replaced that already ;-)
19:32:36  <planetmaker> and I was just wondering why my bot didn't find any occurance anymore while it did the minute before ;-)
19:32:38  <frosch123> menno :p
19:32:44  <planetmaker> genau!
19:32:49  <planetmaker> :-P
19:33:17  <frosch123> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Action0GeneralVariables <- there are those left
19:33:53  <planetmaker> yes, but not the simple "[[Action0/Global Settings|Global Settings]]"
19:33:59  <planetmaker> The text there is different ;-)
19:44:33  <planetmaker> seems about done
19:44:56  <planetmaker> and why is _under_ my washing machine 20ct?
19:46:47  <frosch123> if it has higher density than the material of your washing machine, it is normal that it someone flows through it
19:46:50  <frosch123> it only takes some time
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