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00:09:01 <Ammler> no 00:09:05 <Ammler> you tag the mq 00:09:23 <Ammler> hg tag --mq r22222 00:12:21 <ChillCore> I am still here ... done tagged -r22555 00:12:54 <ChillCore> minus - 00:14:19 <ChillCore> Sorry for the slow progress, I am still lost. 00:16:01 <ChillCore> anything else? Or just refresh commit and push now? (I already pushed a small change) 00:16:22 <Ammler> as it is not on the mainrepo. I see no refresh needed 00:17:01 <ChillCore> but i do have to commit first or not? 00:18:02 <ChillCore> I just want to avoid having to reset the repo again ... 00:18:16 <Ammler> hehe 00:18:31 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Revision 0:48938a495e4e: chipp_v13_7_complete (chillcore) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chillpp/repository/revisions/48938a495e4e 00:18:32 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Revision 1:a77e76baa98f: small_change_in_the_changelog (chillcore) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chillpp/repository/revisions/a77e76baa98f 00:19:06 <Ammler> tag should complain, if you try to tag while there are still uncommitted changes 00:19:34 <Ammler> also tag does also commit usually 00:21:14 <ChillCore> So just push or was that the compilation that just showed up? There already was a tag in the repo ... 00:22:10 <Ammler> I moved your project so it will be announced here 00:22:34 <dihedral> hello Ammler :-) 00:24:00 <ChillCore> Ah Ok. 00:24:07 <ChillCore> Hi dih 00:25:26 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Revision 2:b8aebeea4973: Added tag r22555 for changeset a77e76baa98f (chillcore) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chillpp/repository/revisions/b8aebeea4973 00:25:49 <dihedral> hey ho ChillCore 00:25:57 <ChillCore> That was it Ammler? 00:27:06 * ChillCore is a bit tired now 00:27:30 <ChillCore> I think the rest if there is more will be for tommorow. 00:27:38 <ChillCore> :) 00:34:03 <Ammler> where are the .devzone files? 00:34:17 <dihedral> .devzone files? 00:34:47 <dihedral> ah - patch queues? 00:38:35 <ChillCore> In my patches folder ... are they not pushed? 00:40:57 <ChillCore> Apparantly not? most like ly they are not yet under version control ... do I do "hg init --mq" again to add them? 00:44:35 <ChillCore> dihedral: yeah and I am setting things up for the very first time ... without having much of a clue of what the hell I am doing. :P 00:45:33 <ChillCore> but I do have the feeling that I am almost there. 00:45:47 <ChillCore> I/we 00:48:22 <ChillCore> we/ye*xo-pm-Ammler .... I am mostly following instructions and trying not to screw up. 00:50:48 <ChillCore> Trying is the keyword in the sentence above ... 00:52:52 <ChillCore> Ammler, ance I get the first compilation running I will be learning more offline first? in regards of hg. thank you for your patience. Much appreciated though. 00:53:12 <ChillCore> ance/once ?/. 01:08:53 *** JVassie has quit IRC 01:14:08 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Revision 3:0f4b8d631b2a: add_devzone_files (chillcore) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chillpp/repository/revisions/0f4b8d631b2a 01:14:38 <ChillCore> Better now or do I need to tag again? 01:20:19 <ChillCore> ^^^ please pm me the answer if things are still not correct. I will adress any futher issues as soon as I wake up. 01:21:10 <ChillCore> Really really tired and need sleep .... Good night and thank you once more. 01:21:56 *** ChillCore has quit IRC 07:57:48 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:59:44 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:33:18 *** ChillCore has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:33:49 <ChillCore> Goodmorning all. 09:34:43 <ChillCore> I was checking the extra zoom mq just now and I still need to tag again it seems 09:38:03 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Revision 4:486b6b9254c4: Added tag r22555 for changeset 0f4b8d631b2a (chillcore) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chillpp/repository/revisions/486b6b9254c4 09:38:33 <ChillCore> I hope all is fine now :) 09:46:35 <Brot6> chillpp: update from to r22555 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chillpp/releases/r22555 09:56:26 <ChillCore> OOH ... only four warnings. They are known ones. Checking the rest of logs now. 10:09:07 <Rubidium> they should update their compiler. Then you get 6 extra warnings for free ;) 10:10:20 <Rubidium> you should also add the required grfs to the repository and copy them to the bundle directory in Makefile.bundle (like openttd.grf) 10:10:36 <Rubidium> that way the CF can make binaries that don't require extra downloads 10:11:02 <Rubidium> and you can way more easily enforce newer versions of the grf being downloaded when they're needed 10:11:13 <ChillCore> Hehe. I just thought the warnings disappeared for free (free of effort on my side that is) 10:12:02 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:12:07 <Rubidium> /tmp/chillpp.mq/src/console_cmds.cpp:1210:103: warning: format ‘%d’ expects argument of type ‘int’, but argument 3 has type ‘long unsigned int’ [-Wformat] 10:12:28 <Rubidium> this one can be quite significant though 10:13:05 <ChillCore> Indeed it is. 10:14:03 <ChillCore> I will have a looksie it and add those grfs too. thank you for the hint 10:15:04 <ChillCore> Grfs might take some time though, in order to do it correctly right away. 10:15:36 <Rubidium> when looking at the code, that console command's printf will fail for 64 bits big endian builds 10:36:48 <ChillCore> I know already why I did not fix that ... I do not get that warning, doing a clean compile now. 10:38:44 <ChillCore> My AMD64 has 32bit OS at he moment ... going to download 64 Linux Mint 12-rc now and install ... I only hope it will not be a very slow download. 10:45:42 <ChillCore> Hmm. 42 minutes for 64 bit ... 6 hours for 32bit. I canceled 32bit. 11:15:00 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:24:41 <ChillCore> ^^^ burning image ... 13:27:35 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 701:b305384a8f87: Change: remove spurious model year text... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/b305384a8f87 13:27:35 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 702:234327847faf: Feature: Mackenzie Logging Truck - intr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/234327847faf 13:27:35 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3191 (Closed): Newer models for logging trucks (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3191#change-8500 13:38:14 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 703:07ad5e58b096: Feature: adjust Yonkers railmotor intro... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/07ad5e58b096 14:12:20 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 704:456c521eaf47: Change: update changelog preparatory to... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/456c521eaf47 14:12:20 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 705:95371b27d558: Feature: better readme - for use with i... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/95371b27d558 14:13:14 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 706:db0493b660ec: Added tag 1.4.0 for changeset 95371b27d558 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/db0493b660ec 14:15:22 <Brot6> heqs: update from 1.3.0 to 1.4.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/heqs/releases/1.4.0 14:17:47 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3225 (Closed): Update readme for in-game reading (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3225#change-8501 15:13:35 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3238 (New): Unify tram cargo subtypes to enable auto-replace (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3238 15:15:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:07:39 <Ammler> https://hg.openttdcoop.org/chillpp.mq/ <-- the repo for the cf 16:14:40 <ChillCore> Thank you for the link. 16:25:14 <Ammler> and if youz check the graph, you will see, that the patch is not applied to head, but to the rev from you tag 16:25:41 <ChillCore> I might need some help later(*) to get the needed grfs in there too. Rubi*dium told me to put them in the bin and add them to the makefile.bundle just like (openttd.grf) but I have not found a reference to openttd.grf in the makefile (yet). 16:25:51 <ChillCore> Will check in a bit. 16:26:13 <Ammler> and tonight around 20 it will try to apply to head 16:26:40 <ChillCore> (*) I am going to continue looking later as for now I am setting up my other computer and might need to reboot my modem. 16:27:08 <ChillCore> I also might find the solution myself. 16:27:54 <ChillCore> head -> of current trunk? That will fail horribly untill restart all over. anyway to avoid this or is this not needed? 16:32:37 <ChillCore> Graph is cool. Looks just like the gui extension. :) 16:37:24 <ChillCore> Just a small question for now. Will I run into trouble if I keep tagging r22555 by force? <- the revision is unlikely to change with the complete version. 16:56:59 <Ammler> no 16:59:01 <ChillCore> Good to know that. I know I ask a lot of (really) basic questions. Almost everything I have done the last couple of days is new to me. 17:00:32 <ChillCore> But I am going to force myself to get better by only installing mercurail on my "development" computer. 17:11:41 <ChillCore> I will need to reset my modem. bbl. 17:13:05 *** ChillCore has quit IRC 17:19:50 <Brot6> heqs: update from r695 to r706 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/heqs/nightlies/r706 17:22:53 <Brot6> vactrainset: compile of r1 still failed (#3044) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/vactrainset/nightlies/ERROR/r1 17:35:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:51:35 *** ChillCore has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:53:30 <ChillCore> Rubidium: I will not be able to fix that 64bit warning at the moment. 18:54:17 <ChillCore> I need the Nvidea drivers for my desktop to be readable and responsive, unfortunately the servers are overloaded ... 18:54:43 <Rubidium> ChillCore: the "makefile" you couldn't find it in should be Makefile.bundle (or actually Makefile.bundle.in" target="_blank">Makefile.bundle.in as Makefile.bundle is generated from Makefile.bundle.in" target="_blank">Makefile.bundle.in) 18:56:02 <ChillCore> Fixing it on my 32bit comp will be near impossible as I do not get those warnings ... and changing random stuff without seeing if it helped is ... well ... 18:56:44 <ChillCore> I did find the makefile but there is no mention of openttd.grf at all int there. 18:57:25 <ChillCore> I see the data folders and other stuff that in bundled but as I am working with a patchqueue ... 18:59:09 <ChillCore> If I make a bundle locally then they are transfered to the bundle but just putting them there ... the bin is not under version control is it? so how do I get them in the mq? 18:59:31 <ChillCore> correctly that is. 19:00:28 <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 842:4fb3e96a8c1b: -Add: support for callback 15E (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/4fb3e96a8c1b 19:00:58 <ChillCore> in/is bundled -> three lines back 19:02:26 <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r23201 still failed (#2964) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r23201 19:02:57 <Rubidium> bin is (partly) under version control 19:03:40 <Ammler> I assume the openttd cf does build openttd.grf 19:03:50 <Rubidium> it actually doesn't 19:03:59 <Ammler> oh :-o 19:04:16 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r23201 still failed (#2966) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r23201 19:05:19 <Ammler> well then, patching openttd grf is useless, so you could/should add your gf to bin 19:05:38 <Ammler> be sure the mq supports binary diff 19:05:46 <Rubidium> when did I say he should patch openttd.grf? 19:05:49 <Ammler> enable git 19:06:18 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r23201 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r23201 19:06:22 <Ammler> Rubidium: dunno, that would be just the nicest way :-) 19:06:27 <ChillCore> Rubidium: I will check if hg sees them as uncommited changes if I just place them in bin ... 19:06:34 <Ammler> no 19:06:42 <Ammler> but hg supports binary diff 19:06:44 <ChillCore> Ammler: enabling git crashes hg for me 19:06:59 <Ammler> hmm 19:07:05 <ChillCore> well it crahes python 19:07:17 <Ammler> then you should fix that 19:07:31 <Ammler> git diffs are very recommend 19:08:02 <ChillCore> By reporting the error? lol 19:08:11 <Ammler> no 19:08:13 <Ammler> what os you work on? 19:08:25 <Ammler> I thought, it is linux :-) 19:08:27 <ChillCore> Ubuntu 11.04 ... still 19:08:44 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Bug #3239 (New): 78 (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3239 19:08:48 <Ammler> ten it is very strange 19:09:02 <Rubidium> Ammler: actually, for patch packs I'd argue that it is unwise to put the additional graphics in openttd.grf as then they won't be loaded with opengfx 19:09:29 <Ammler> true indeed 19:09:46 <Ammler> and in every case, you need binary support, ChillCore 19:10:06 <Ammler> alternative is to work with openttd fork instead mq 19:10:15 <ChillCore> ^^^ and they are not coded ... they are loaded statically without action 5 19:11:23 <Ammler> we have bookmark support, so you can work with hg like others work with git 19:11:58 <Ammler> means, instead mq, you could make one (unnamed but bookmarked) branch per patch 19:13:22 <ChillCore> openttdfork? bookmark support? me has more reading to do ... let me first try just copying to the bin ... brb 19:13:47 <Ammler> opnettd fork means just a branch of openttd on a sperate repo 19:14:37 <Ammler> if you would make that way, we would need to create a way to make patches from the branches 19:14:46 <Ammler> for interested people 19:14:57 <Ammler> but that is not very important 19:14:58 <ChillCore> Ah ok. As long as I can still easily update the source. 19:15:06 <Ammler> so basically we support already both ways :-) 19:15:25 <Ammler> ChillCore: you need binary diff support for mq 19:15:34 <Ammler> if you can't do that, mq is no option 19:16:15 <Ammler> at least you can't have the CF making the bundles with grf for you 19:16:51 <Ammler> but it is very strange that you do not support binary diff 19:16:57 <Ammler> which hg version do you run? 19:17:10 <ChillCore> Later it will be important as I do have the intention to keep patches separated. I will look into that binary diff support. Google should have plenty of info. 19:17:32 <ChillCore> I have not yet tried copying them in the bin. 19:17:50 <Ammler> 90% here use linux and you are the first with that issue 19:18:46 <ChillCore> Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 1.7.5) 19:18:57 <Ammler> quite old 19:19:17 <ChillCore> newest for me unless I go PPA 19:20:29 <Ammler> you should in general always use th newest available sofware form somethng you start with 19:20:39 <ChillCore> And as the rest of my programs is most likely just as old, strange things may happen 19:21:09 <Ammler> then we would know, if this is an issue of your hg or of your os 19:21:51 <ChillCore> Updatemanager does not include new versions ... unless they are bugfixes -> ubuntu 19:22:14 <Ammler> that is usual distro strandard repo behavior 19:22:30 <Ammler> but nobody uses just standard repos :-P 19:23:18 <ChillCore> You do not want to know the version of OpenTTD they distribute :P Even in Ubuntu 11.10 it is already outdated :( 19:23:51 <ChillCore> 1.0.4 or something 19:24:51 <Ammler> they have it in the standard repos? 19:25:00 <Ammler> on suse, you don't get openttd there 19:25:19 * ChillCore is now going to copy those grfs to the bin to see what happens 19:25:34 <Ammler> and via the "games" repo, you have always the neest because I pack it 19:25:38 <Rubidium> Ammler: ofcourse it's in the standard repository for Debian derivatives 19:25:57 <Ammler> ChillCore: and then do a hg qnew 19:26:24 <Ammler> hg qnew -g 19:26:42 <ChillCore> Yes they distribute. My father could just download openttd on on his D-Media tablet Android 2.2 too 19:27:51 <ChillCore> biggui.grf automatically downloaded along zith OpenGFX/SFX/MSX 19:28:20 <ChillCore> but completely unplayable. later on that I will make a post on the forums about that. 19:31:33 <Ammler> oh, you also need to add the files 19:31:35 <Ammler> hg add first 19:34:19 <ChillCore> Cool hg detects them ... I will remove them again first and make a seperate mq as you wish Ammler 19:35:43 <ChillCore> I will include the compiled grfs in data ¿and the sources in a sub folder of data? 19:36:24 <ChillCore> Rubidium ... I should have tried first. Sorry. Will do next time 19:36:45 <Ammler> not seperae queue, just a sep. patch for the binary 19:36:52 <Ammler> as svn does not support it 19:37:13 <Ammler> thanks to mq, multiple patches are no issue :-) 19:43:15 <ChillCore> hold on ... first I will copy my entire repo to be on the safe side. I tend to mess things up sometimes (-> like you did not know that yet). 19:43:33 <Ammler> not possible 19:43:37 <Ammler> or quite hard 19:45:34 <ChillCore> ? not a problem if you enable to show invisible files ... I do that all the time. 19:46:15 <ChillCore> ofcourse I have to be carefull from were I push now 19:46:26 <ChillCore> if that is what you mean 19:50:29 <Ammler> not really 19:50:37 <Ammler> just do configure it proper 19:51:01 <Ammler> so you do hg push --mq 19:51:17 <Ammler> and hg push will fail 19:53:26 <ChillCore> first add files on clean openttd source, then hg qnew -g, then commit, then push, then add tag. Should do it no? 19:54:13 <ChillCore> after applying the complete source mq too ofcourse 19:54:15 <Ammler> no 19:54:19 <Ammler> hg add before hg qnew 19:54:35 <Ammler> well, I would add git format to your hgrc 19:54:41 <Ammler> so you do not need to use -g everytime 19:55:52 <ChillCore> As I wrote ... if I add the git extension to my hgrc pushing will fail ... Ye*xo made me aware of that yesterday ... there are two pastebins from yesterday but I forgot the number. 19:56:19 <ChillCore> +s Is there a logfile here ... like on irc#openttd 19:56:21 <Ammler> git extension? 19:56:34 <ChillCore> yes will prevent me from pushing 19:56:37 <Ammler> nobody ever spoke about git extension, I have no clue what that is 19:56:56 <Ammler> I just mean you should tell mercurial to make binary diffs 19:57:06 <Ammler> which means -g for diff 19:57:32 <ChillCore> ah ok. sorry misunderstood. 19:57:57 <Ammler> check manpage for hgrc and search for diff format 19:58:18 <ChillCore> ok. brb 20:20:47 <ChillCore> I tried adding the grfs and sourcesin my copied folder first ... using the gui as that is easier ... will do it again on the normal one and push if it seems okay to you. 20:21:56 <ChillCore> The difs for the grfs and pngs read "GIT binary patch" for the first line. the nfos and the readme are normal patches 20:23:02 <ChillCore> I have in my mq: 0 the complete patch; 1 the needed grfs 20:23:12 <ChillCore> + sources 20:24:18 <ChillCore> pardon me, 0 is the needed grfs 20:27:48 <ChillCore> one of the grfs needs renaming to be functional (three versions of the same). Maybe I should do that already to provide functioning out of the box? 20:28:42 <Ammler> of course 20:29:01 <ChillCore> Ammler I could pm you the diff of the grfs if you want/need to check ...? 20:29:24 <ChillCore> or does it seem okay form my discription? 20:30:05 <Ammler> no 20:30:10 <Ammler> you can push it 20:30:39 <ChillCore> first I need to do it again and rename :) 20:31:02 <ChillCore> And adjust the readme 20:31:34 <ChillCore> Just tell me to shut up ... it if I talk too much ;) 20:31:56 <Ammler> no need 20:32:05 <Ammler> irc does not talk :-P 20:32:12 <Ammler> at least mine doesn't 20:32:29 <ChillCore> lucky you ... all of you 20:45:34 <ChillCore> Told you it would crash ... my copy just did again ... Can you give that pastebin link again, I forgot to bookmark it yesterday. 20:45:59 <ChillCore> you/someone 20:46:43 <planetmaker> what pastbin link? 20:48:49 <ChillCore> pastebin to paste text and then post the link if someone wants to look ... Ye*xo posted it yesterday ... I could search for it in my browser history. 20:49:34 <planetmaker> paste.openttdcoop.org? 20:49:38 <planetmaker> pastebin.com? 20:49:43 <planetmaker> imagebin.org/com? 20:50:16 <ChillCore> It was the first one :) 20:52:18 <Yexo> planetmaker: is paste.openttdcoop.org ever cleaned? 20:53:08 <Yexo> well, my question is actually the other way around. If I paste something there, can I be reasonable sure it's still there in one month? 20:54:16 <ChillCore> Ammler: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/746/ it always happens after using that git binary thingy or if I put the "git =" in my hgrc file. 20:54:18 <planetmaker> I think it has also a selection about persistance 20:54:35 <planetmaker> I didn't think of it yet as permanent means, though... 20:54:55 <planetmaker> I'm not aware of it being cleaned, but I'm not sure whether Ammler setup a cleaning procedure for paste 21:03:28 <Ammler> ChillCore: could you please try with latest hg again 21:04:45 <Ammler> Yexo: every paste is for ever, it is sqlite db, if you ever need to delete a paste for some reason 21:05:59 <Yexo> no, no. I just nead some recent pastes to last at least a few weeks 21:06:51 <Ammler> thanks, I would have no clue how to remove a single paste yet 21:07:17 <ChillCore> Ammler: I could/will ... although I am about to migrate from this computer to the other, once the Linux Mint servers calm down a bit and I can get my grubby mits on the NVidea drivers I should have a newer version 21:07:55 <ChillCore> I will commit the grfs first. 21:25:50 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Revision 5:605649a27922: add_needed_grfs_and_sources (chillcore) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chillpp/repository/revisions/605649a27922 21:28:01 <Brot6> chillpp: compile of r23202 still failed (#3239) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chillpp/testing/ERROR/r23202 21:31:19 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Revision 6:353f5fcd9112: Added tag r22555 for changeset 605649a27922 (chillcore) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chillpp/repository/revisions/353f5fcd9112 21:31:35 <Ammler> ChillCore: don't get it 21:31:55 <Ammler> I thought, you aren't able to create binary patches? 21:32:57 <ChillCore> Apparantly yes, but when using the gui extension it will crash when I close the gui. 21:33:43 <ChillCore> also when I put "git =" in the extension section of my hgrc it will crash but it will not wait untill I close the window. 21:34:15 <ChillCore> yesterday I had trouble even doing stuff from the console with the hgrc file as above 21:34:24 <ChillCore> I am as clueless as you ... 21:35:23 <Ammler> because it isn't a extension as I told you :-P 21:36:01 <Ammler> again, search for git format in hgrc 21:36:30 <Ammler> (section diff) 21:36:53 <ChillCore> Before or after I try a newer version of mercurial? :P 21:38:08 <ChillCore> ah ok. but the crashlog in the pastebin is without putting it in the hgrc file (even if it was the wrong place) 21:39:00 <Ammler> ok, so it is a issue with tortoisehg 21:44:54 <ChillCore> Untill now I just restart and all is fine ... I will search for a newer version. 21:45:24 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3240 (New): Convert to grfv8 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3240 21:46:24 <ChillCore> and will read about git format while I am there. ;) 22:05:22 <ChillCore> Oh my ... I am still using tortoisehg 1.1.4-1 and there is already a 2.2 version. 22:07:28 * ChillCore is thinking about getting Linux mint based on Debian instead of based on Ubuntu 22:07:47 <ChillCore> or as those versions even older there? 22:15:33 <Rubidium> ChillCore: if it releases more often than once every 2 years it's likely based on Debian Unstable or Debian Testing which generally have newer packages than Ubuntu as Ubuntu is leeching from Testing 22:18:21 <ChillCore> six months release based on Ubuntu. On debian will have to check ... 22:19:12 <Rubidium> Debian's release cycle is ~2 years 22:20:04 <Rubidium> Debian Stable that is; I'm running "unstable" and generally have no problems with that 22:20:15 <Rubidium> which gets updated a mere 4 times a day ;) 22:23:32 <ChillCore> Now that is what I call a service ... I have considered Debian before ... I have a 6.03 live cd but have ot really had the time to look at it yet. 22:26:31 <ChillCore> I have also recent OpenSuse, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Linux Mint ... I really really do not like that Unity/Zeitgeist/obligated Ubuntu one account etc, stuff that they are shoving down our throats ... 22:28:16 <ChillCore> classic desktop is no longer classic :( I do not need all that fluff, just my gnome 2.23 back 22:28:34 <ChillCore> but that is dead ... my hope is with Mate now 22:29:10 <ChillCore> else I'll go "shopping" again. 22:29:41 <ChillCore> end rant. 22:30:47 <ChillCore> I hope OpenTTD never dies ... It has no substitutes :) 22:33:11 <ChillCore> And me taking over (if ever) is a disaster waiting to happen. lol 22:35:02 <ChillCore> haha, imagine ... wiped disk, broken servers, the entire internet kaputt. 23:06:32 <ChillCore> Ammler: I have now added and installed PPAs for tortoise and mercurial. 23:07:35 <ChillCore> But I am going to test tommorow, I am going to fiddle a bit more with my other computer, unless i get tired of that and test anyway later tonight 23:08:05 <ChillCore> good night all. thank you for the help received once more. 23:09:09 *** ChillCore has quit IRC 23:14:04 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:27:26 *** ODM has quit IRC