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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 29th December 2011:
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09:45:02  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 891:1918e0245666: Change: Install into the baseset dir (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/1918e0245666
09:52:29  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3421 (New): water palette not correctly translated (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3421
10:06:35  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 892:49f79a8a85dc: Fix: Ignore the custom tags files (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/49f79a8a85dc
10:15:26  <andythenorth> FIRS release?
10:18:53  <andythenorth> planetmaker: #3021 - should that string be removed from german, or will you translate it?
10:18:54  <Brot6> andythenorth: planetmaker: #3021 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3021 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3021: German translation - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
10:20:06  <planetmaker> sounds like it should be translated
10:20:32  <andythenorth> meine deutsch ist nicht so gut
10:25:56  <planetmaker> I still think we should not forbid the use in toyland climate
10:26:06  <planetmaker> and if it's only for the sake of Mars conversion set
10:27:50  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2657:abbb848beb51: Change #3021: Update German translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/abbb848beb51
10:28:02  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I won't mind if you remove the toyland ban
10:28:10  <andythenorth> but I'm not testing / supporting toyland bugs :P
10:28:22  <andythenorth> I don't expect any, but who knows - tile checks and such...
10:28:53  <planetmaker> yes. I'd not support the toyland itself. But I can think of reasons to support conversions of it
10:28:59  <planetmaker> not that important now anyway
10:29:04  <andythenorth> raise a ticket?
10:29:06  <andythenorth> or I can
10:29:16  <planetmaker> well. no
10:29:36  <andythenorth> #3392 is a moderately serious bug
10:29:36  <Brot6> andythenorth: #3392 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3392 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3392: Prospecting costs ~2x more than direct funding for primary industries - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
10:29:38  <planetmaker> we'll get that ticket when it's needed. Otherwise it's obviously fine
10:32:30  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3021: German translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3021#change-8951
10:33:37  <planetmaker> aha. I just learned that an uncomitted merge can be undone (only) by hg up -C -rXXX
10:34:33  <andythenorth> I think hg tells you that if you can trigger the correct message :P
10:36:27  <planetmaker> nah, it only told me that I can't revert a merge ;-)
10:36:36  <planetmaker> but google was quick ;-)
10:43:07  <andythenorth> hmm
10:43:12  <andythenorth> can't figure out 3392
10:44:21  <planetmaker> I'll look now
10:44:30  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2658:04ba7b10bda8: Fix: Parameters in the fertilizer str... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/04ba7b10bda8
10:44:49  <andythenorth> I thought it was a missing base cost, but can't see where
10:44:59  <planetmaker> dunno
10:45:05  <planetmaker> yet
10:50:32  <planetmaker> bug reproduced
10:51:16  <andythenorth> doesn't seem to affect secondary, only primary
10:51:22  <andythenorth> it's FIRS not ottd
10:51:47  <andythenorth> the direct-fund cost is also way too low (that might be the actual bug)
10:53:25  <Ammler> planetmaker: did you see the stage server (redmine 1.3)
10:53:41  <planetmaker> no?
10:53:57  <planetmaker> andythenorth: 1.3M is too low?
10:54:25  <andythenorth> planetmaker: which industry?
10:54:58  <Ammler> http://testing.dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions
10:55:20  <planetmaker> arable farm
10:55:54  <Ammler> the main issue is that we need to decide now, if we switch to chiliproject or stay with redmine
10:56:58  <planetmaker> what's the difference and will be the impact? I'm still not well-informed there to make any decision
10:57:26  <andythenorth> planetmaker: arable farm direct-fund cost is ~20m in FIRS 0.6.4 (with 'low' construction costs)
10:57:44  <planetmaker> hm. That's also a lot of difference
10:58:13  <planetmaker> Ammler: the branch view is nice
11:01:05  <planetmaker> andythenorth: but firs 0.6.4 works as expected wrt funding / prospecting?
11:01:10  <andythenorth> planetmaker: yup
11:01:20  <planetmaker> hm...
11:01:20  <andythenorth> I am missing a property somewhere
11:01:23  <andythenorth> the base cost looks same
11:01:32  <andythenorth> the fund cost multiplier looks same
11:01:58  <planetmaker> hm, I guess it might be a grf v8 issue
11:02:22  <planetmaker> base cost behaviour changed, the new ones are not treated anymore as derivatives
11:02:34  <andythenorth> ah
11:02:45  <andythenorth> could well be the cause
11:02:54  <planetmaker> just not sure whether it's a FIRS issue or maybe even in OpenTTD
11:03:04  <andythenorth> hmm
11:03:19  <andythenorth> planetmaker: can I assign it to you?
11:04:16  <planetmaker> I don't want to take the blame ;-) But I'll try to investigate
11:08:01  * planetmaker tests something
11:08:17  <planetmaker> PR_BUILD_INDUSTRY_RAW is new and not used
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11:11:48  <planetmaker> andythenorth: 0.6.4: 2.5 million vs. 20 million for arable farm?
11:12:52  <andythenorth> planetmaker: yup those numbers sound correct
11:13:03  <planetmaker> found it
11:14:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2659:c06ad2a80090: Fix #3392: Direct funding of raw indu... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c06ad2a80090
11:14:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3392 (Closed): Prospecting costs ~2x more than direct fundin... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3392#change-8953
11:15:18  <andythenorth> another one down, another one done, another one bites the dust
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11:18:11  <andythenorth> planetmaker: is FIRS grf-v8, or is it grf-v8 compatible?
11:19:38  <planetmaker> it's grv v8
11:19:52  <planetmaker> *grf
11:19:55  <planetmaker> :-P
11:20:04  <andythenorth> ok
11:20:08  * andythenorth updating changelog
11:20:12  <andythenorth> quite a long list :P
11:20:31  <planetmaker> :-)
11:21:22  <andythenorth> mostly classes to discuss
11:21:30  <andythenorth> and also #2455
11:21:30  <Brot6> andythenorth: #2455 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2455 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2455: Updated Polish translation. - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
11:21:36  <andythenorth> that's an nfo translation
11:21:39  <andythenorth> might be of no use
11:21:59  <planetmaker> that's of no use
11:22:13  <planetmaker> It needs a translator to revisit the translation
11:22:16  <andythenorth> we seem to have polish anyway
11:23:22  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2455 (Rejected): Updated Polish translation. (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2455#change-8954
11:24:05  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 70:caa4b46b8e66: Fix: flashers of matrix signs (issue #3074) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/caa4b46b8e66
11:24:05  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 71:d4dd47d36ca7: Feature: third activator for matrix signs (issue... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/d4dd47d36ca7
11:24:05  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 72:c2ef2cf240c7: Feature: have activators placed on far side also... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/c2ef2cf240c7
11:24:07  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 73:753003c13355: Feature: fourth activator for matrix signs (issu... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/753003c13355
11:29:50  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2660:879cc1df5974: Change: [Makefile] Update to r386 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/879cc1df5974
11:32:08  <planetmaker> Ammler: does the Chiliproject have hg support? From what I remember, that's a patch queue which is used to add this here on Redmine?
11:32:16  <planetmaker> or was that integrated in redmine trunk?
11:37:45  <planetmaker> Ammler: and on testing http://testing.dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions looks quite... funky
11:38:13  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 74:969a6bfcd3f5: Feature: fifth activator for matrix signs (issue... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/969a6bfcd3f5
11:38:13  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 75:4026f417bb5a: Feature: sixth activator for matrix signs (close... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/4026f417bb5a
11:38:13  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3074 (Closed): matrixborden (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3074#change-8955
11:39:23  <andythenorth> planetmaker: only classes to discuss :)
11:39:54  <planetmaker> yes. give me today to reflect on them
11:40:12  <planetmaker> and discuss that tomorrow :-)
11:40:13  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2661:bf47644972a2: Docs: update changelog to get changes... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/bf47644972a2
11:41:24  <andythenorth> k I'll do some other things
11:42:03  <andythenorth> maybe I'll have time to create graphics so Metal Fab plant and Metal Workshop aren't identical in appearance
11:42:37  <planetmaker> good :-) I just need to get a better overview to make more well-founded comments :-)
11:43:02  <andythenorth> it's still a tricky problem :P
11:43:53  <planetmaker> yes
11:44:40  <andythenorth> I stand by the basic principle in #3235
11:44:41  <Brot6> andythenorth: #3235 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3235 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3235: Thoughts on classes - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
11:44:50  <andythenorth> "classes are for players, not vehicle set authors. They are to try and ensure cargo is transportable, not that vehicle set authors can control refitting in detail."
11:45:02  <andythenorth> and "refuse to provide vehicle set authors with detailed ways to control refit via classes, instead they should use labels as FIRS cargos are known."
11:45:35  <Ammler> planetmaker: the new version would need refetch of the repos
11:45:42  <andythenorth> also - FIRS authors shouldn't be trying to control which vehicle type(s) are used
11:45:44  <Ammler> we did that with ogfx and nml only
11:45:46  <andythenorth> that's for vehicle authors
11:46:20  <Ammler> well, the main issue is that cp has no dev with big hg experience, they all work mainly with git
11:47:41  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3422 (Assigned): show example of matrix signs with activators in ... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3422
11:48:58  <planetmaker> ok, that explains it, Ammler :-)
11:49:14  <planetmaker> andythenorth: I fully agree with "classes are for players, not vehicle set authors. They are to try and ensure cargo is transportable, not that vehicle set authors can control refitting in detail"
11:49:29  <andythenorth> especially with the new cargo props
11:49:38  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3060: Make fingerposts one object (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3060#change-8956
11:50:27  <planetmaker> exactly
11:53:21  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Revision 95:fd0eed6b902f: Disable testing builds (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-ez-patches/repository/revisions/fd0eed6b902f
11:58:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #3218: sugar cane cargo classes (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3218#change-8957
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12:03:04  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r23237 still failed (#3251) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/releases/ERROR/r23237
12:16:08  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2662:a74407ae4266: Codechange: rename graphics source fi... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a74407ae4266
12:16:37  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2663:9c6b49a46018: Add: source file for Metal Fab Plant ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9c6b49a46018
12:20:07  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2664:818c15d7f44f: Cleanup: remove some un-needed layers... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/818c15d7f44f
12:28:36  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3402: Class 66 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3402#change-8959
12:38:32  <Ammler> he, now the copy of the readme to the wiki is very ugly :-)
12:39:58  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 893:4c1d74b20ece: Fix: Also declare the DOS-palette in the obg (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/4c1d74b20ece
12:41:51  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3421 (Rejected): water palette not correctly translated (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3421
12:41:51  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3421 (Rejected): water palette not correctly translated (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3421#change-8960
12:47:00  <Ammler> btw. with the new zoom levels, would it make sense to offer sprites for those (maybe still 8bpp)?
12:52:28  <planetmaker> yes, it would. But it's not yet feasible
12:55:32  <Ammler> well, a question is also does it make sense to have 8bpp sprites
12:59:40  <planetmaker> does. 8bpp is faster than 32bpp
13:00:56  <Ammler> yeah, your unproven argument :-P
13:01:24  <planetmaker> ...
13:02:03  <planetmaker> just do the comparison with 8bpp-optimized and 32bpp-anim blitters
13:03:19  <planetmaker> and people like petern and tb who wrote the blitters know that, too. They recall the exact measurements
13:03:26  <planetmaker> *might recall
13:04:05  <Ammler> that it differs is obvious, but to have impact it would need to double cpu usage
13:04:29  <planetmaker> would it?
13:04:39  <planetmaker> is 10% or 20% not important?
13:04:39  <Ammler> oh, does it?
13:05:19  <planetmaker> then we could also merge yacd. force 32bpp. And then we can not play with 2500 trains anymore but with 1000 at most
13:05:31  <Ammler> :-)
13:05:34  <planetmaker> or I could stop at 400
13:05:51  <Ammler> like with pbs
13:06:02  <planetmaker> that on the other hand has virtually *no* impact
13:06:08  <planetmaker> or prove it ;-)
13:06:23  <Ammler> change the interval
13:06:38  <planetmaker> that is not a performance issue. That's when trains check for path
13:06:42  <planetmaker> that's two different bags
13:06:54  <Ammler> yep, that bigger as 1 makes it unusable
13:07:12  <Ammler> (in some cases)
13:07:23  <planetmaker> again: you're comparing apples and pears
13:50:23  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #3423 (New): Minor readme updates (orudge) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3423
13:51:29  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #3423: Minor readme updates (orudge) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3423#change-8961
13:54:50  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #3423 (Closed): Minor readme updates (orudge) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3423
13:54:50  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 894:659a6c4036d5: Fix #3423: Correct a number of spelling and grammar errors i... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/659a6c4036d5
13:54:50  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #3423 (Closed): Minor readme updates (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3423#change-8962
13:55:27  <orudge> That was quick :)
13:56:03  <planetmaker> :-)
13:56:26  <planetmaker> just saw it here. And had it still all in the editor ;-)
13:56:47  <planetmaker> I made one amendment, though ;-)
13:56:54  <planetmaker> (last hunk) :-P
13:57:07  <orudge> Ah, heh
14:13:05  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2665:bbc9959b7b37: Codechange: work in progress on graph... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/bbc9959b7b37
14:17:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2666:e0d647c01599: Codechange: correctly named pngs for ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e0d647c01599
14:29:10  <andythenorth> hmm
15:10:34  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2667:98d3a22d22e3: Fix: remove extraneous pixels from Me... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/98d3a22d22e3
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15:57:34  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3422 (Closed): show example of matrix signs with activators in pu... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3422
15:57:34  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 76:5dd88bf582a1: Docs: update readme to reflect actual ingame fun... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/5dd88bf582a1
15:57:34  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 77:f93361a69d1c: Feature: matrix sign examples in activator purch... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/f93361a69d1c
15:57:35  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3422 (Closed): show example of matrix signs with activators in pu... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3422#change-8963
16:19:07  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3424 (New): bridge (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3424
16:25:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2668:471950fda5bd: Feature: graphics for Metal Fab Plant (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/471950fda5bd
16:29:03  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3425 (New): Improve layouts for Metal Fab Plant (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3425
16:59:12  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2669:931d283ec09d: Fix: building out of place at Metal F... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/931d283ec09d
17:07:21  <Ammler> if you change so requires from package name to real name, you might also change gcc to GCC and md5sum to whatever :-)
17:16:17  <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r849 to r850 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r850
17:25:44  <Brot6> firs: update from r2656 to r2669 done (10 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2669
17:44:14  <andythenorth> Yexo: planetmaker could we script having FIRS write out current cargo properties into a flat file, for convenience of checking spec?
17:44:27  <andythenorth> (or have ottd do it alternatively - which scales much better for vehicle set authors)
17:45:16  <andythenorth> previously we had this, which was useful: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/sprites/nfo/cargos.list
17:54:15  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r890 to r894 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r894
17:54:48  <Ammler> you can basically run every script
17:55:42  <Ammler> bash and python is already there, if you want to use some other languaes, it might need to be added to the build spec, which is no issue
17:55:50  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3426 (New): Introduce cargo unit for 'bales' (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3426
17:56:20  <Ammler> the above list
17:56:50  <Brot6> dutchroadfurniture: update from r68 to r77 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchroadfurniture/nightlies/r77
18:07:02  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3427 (New): RN232 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3427
18:12:40  <Brot6> nutracks: compile of r210 still failed (#3387) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nutracks/nightlies/ERROR/r210
18:30:25  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: bros (1 warnings), transrapidtrackset, 2cctrainset (78 warnings), worldairlinersset, heqs, basecosts, water-features, isr (2 warnings), 32bpp-extra (2 warnings), newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 12), snowlinemod, metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), fish, ttrs (7 warnings), ogfx-trees, smts (Diffsize: 8), chips (1 warnings), comic-houses (3 warnings) (Diffsize: 22)
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20:04:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3235: Thoughts on classes (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3235#change-8968
21:11:47  <andythenorth> hmm
21:12:00  <andythenorth> planetmaker: Yexo I am stuck trying to find cause of a big
21:12:03  <andythenorth> big?  bug :P
21:12:27  <andythenorth> FIRS Metal Workshop is using Metal Fabrication Plant graphics
21:12:46  <andythenorth> if I comment out Metal Fab Plant include from firs.pnml, then correct graphics are used
21:13:00  <andythenorth> I assume it's just a wrong id somewhere, but I can't see it
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21:18:55  <andythenorth> if I switch order of includes for the industries in firs.pnml, both industries get Metal Workshop graphics
21:19:01  <andythenorth> so must be a wrong id somewhere
21:24:57  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature #3414: New Vehicles (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3414#change-8969
21:28:06  <andythenorth> hmm
21:28:16  <andythenorth> where do tile IDs come from in FIRS?
21:32:03  <andythenorth> metal fab plant and metal workshop are using same tile I think
21:41:54  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3428 (New): Metal Fab. Plan and Metal Workshop incorrectly u... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3428
22:08:01  <Yexo> andythenorth: will look at it a bit later
22:19:55  <Hirundo> hmm... CB 1D is called on the engine, but with the variables set as if it were called on the wagon
22:20:22  <Hirundo> I feel openttd isn't handling this correctly
23:17:32  <Yexo> Hirundo: a bug in openttd indeed, created a report: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4923
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23:29:53  <Yexo> can anyone explain to me why bootstrap.py was so useful?
23:30:05  <Yexo> I think it was mainly andy who requested that, or Ammler?
23:31:32  <michi_cc> No idea if it is the reason for bootstrap.py, but I remember that andy had problems because he had python3 as default.
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23:58:04  <planetmaker> Yexo: it was andy who wanted the bootstrap.py. But... I don't remember quite why he found it so useful. Something related to ... bootstrapping nml
23:58:12  <planetmaker> and easier install
23:58:27  <Yexo> well, currently I can't get it to work at all
23:58:42  <Yexo> why setup.py provides "python setup.py install" which works fine

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