Config
Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 8th January 2012:
Times are UTC Toggle Colours
00:22:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 472:e3da8a088ad1: make an actually useful narrow gauge rail... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e3da8a088ad1
00:22:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3469 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3469#change-9074
00:35:32  <Brot6> cets: update from r469 to r472 done (521 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r472
01:00:24  *** frosch123 has quit IRC
01:57:01  *** JVassie has quit IRC
06:10:58  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 473:c1cfa354a471: add: data for a few Prussian narrow gauge... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/c1cfa354a471
06:14:08  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 474:1dcabdecb872: fix: missed the IDs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/1dcabdecb872
06:14:08  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3474 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3474
06:14:22  <Brot6> cets: compile of r474 still failed (#3474) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/ERROR/r474
07:57:20  *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
08:12:15  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3475 (New): Model life / vehicle life properties not set (use defines) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3475
08:55:31  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 73:c401013e52f3: Change: re-balance trucks 1905-1930 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/c401013e52f3
08:56:22  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3476 (New): Template needed for drawbar/pup-trailer trucks (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3476
08:57:36  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3473 (Closed): More manufacturer variety needed in epoch A / B (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3473#change-9075
08:57:37  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3471 (Closed): Too many trucks (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3471#change-9076
08:57:37  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3472 (Closed): Hackler truck names are ambiguous (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3472#change-9077
09:07:35  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Bug #3477 (New): undefined string (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3477
09:08:58  *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
09:15:51  *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
09:20:23  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3475 (Closed): Model life / vehicle life properties not set (use defines) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3475
09:20:23  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 74:06669d04ac17: Change: set model life and vehicle life (closes #3475) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/06669d04ac17
09:20:23  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3475 (Closed): Model life / vehicle life properties not set (use defines) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3475#change-9078
09:34:27  <Brot6> Japanese Tracks - Revision 4:9a59b5420c09: In Non-Japanese mode, replace urban narrow gauge track... (dandan) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/jptracks/repository/revisions/9a59b5420c09
09:38:47  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 75:25f843f090bb: Docs: figure out trailer capacities in tracking table (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/25f843f090bb
10:29:18  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2701:a55c5727e849: Change: Update Polish translation (Ra... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a55c5727e849
10:30:20  <planetmaker> Hm, should we devise a separate commit name for translations?
10:30:27  <planetmaker> 'Change' is quite a big generic
10:30:39  <planetmaker> Translate: Polish (Ramir)
10:30:41  <planetmaker> maybe?
10:30:54  <Yexo> -Update like OpenTTD?
10:31:06  <planetmaker> Update. then let's keep it the same. yes
10:40:14  <andythenorth> fine by me
10:54:58  <planetmaker> time to devise m4nml? ;-)
11:05:40  <andythenorth> any other FIRS tickets take your fancy? :)
11:07:16  <planetmaker> the supply thingy. But only later today
11:07:56  <andythenorth> probably has a small overlap with #855
11:07:57  <Brot6> andythenorth: #855 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/855 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #855: Industries don't randomise production on construction. - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
11:08:08  <andythenorth> wrt production multiplier
11:08:16  <andythenorth> although they might also be independent
11:08:29  <planetmaker> They're related but independent. I *think*
11:08:44  <planetmaker> no warranty given, though ;-)
11:09:33  <andythenorth> 855 might be best solved by what I discussed with frosch yesterday
11:09:45  <andythenorth> calling cb29 / 35 when industry is constructed
11:10:25  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3468: NS 450 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3468#change-9080
11:12:08  <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Feature #3478 (New): set alternative railtype labels (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3478
11:14:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3479 (New): Brief description of industries in readme (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3479
11:15:47  <planetmaker> andythenorth, wrt #855 that's the idea I had about the solution, too
11:15:48  <Brot6> planetmaker: andythenorth: #855 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/855 "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #855: Industries don't randomise production on construction. - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
11:16:04  <planetmaker> will you actually be working on that?
11:16:15  <andythenorth> no
11:16:33  <andythenorth> I tried implementing the solution frosch explained in the 855 comments, but I don't understand it
11:16:41  <andythenorth> it / production code
11:16:52  <andythenorth> I've stopped trying to write code for FIRS
11:17:02  <andythenorth> it's demoralising ;)
11:18:14  <planetmaker> :`-(
11:18:21  <Terkhen> why?
11:18:31  <andythenorth> learning curve is too steep
11:18:47  <andythenorth> + my brain is stuck in old code
11:18:55  <andythenorth> remember I wrote most of this once already ;)
11:19:06  <planetmaker> wasn't the idea you write one of the (new) industries from scratch? w/o all the template stuff?
11:19:14  <andythenorth> yes
11:19:16  <andythenorth> still valid
11:19:29  <andythenorth> but the nml is mostly trivial
11:19:35  <andythenorth> it's the templates that baffle me
11:19:46  <andythenorth> BANDIT will be heavily templated nml
11:19:54  <andythenorth> I'll make progress there first
11:20:14  <andythenorth> but FIRS is stuck :)
11:20:26  <planetmaker> so no 0.8 on 1st April?
11:20:43  <andythenorth> maybe / maybe not
11:20:57  <andythenorth> it's possible
11:24:41  *** Zuu has quit IRC
11:34:46  <Terkhen> andythenorth: the templates can be changed if they are confusing
11:34:59  <Terkhen> the templating mechanism used in both your nfo code and the new nml code is the same one
11:35:45  <Terkhen> now it uses defines instead of included files, but I think that they are mostly the same
11:36:14  <planetmaker> indeed. that's the main difference. Using #define instead of #include
11:44:27  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 76:e176d24272d5: Change: new approach to templating trailers (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/e176d24272d5
11:47:02  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature #3414: New Vehicles (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3414#change-9081
11:48:08  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature #3414: New Vehicles (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3414#change-9082
11:54:14  <andythenorth> the main difference for me - in reading the code - is that args are used to pass constants for templating
11:54:26  <andythenorth> my brain treats that as function(parameters)
11:54:43  <andythenorth> the other problem I have is that I just don't understand the spritelayout templating
11:55:12  <planetmaker> that really is just adding things after eachother
11:55:30  <planetmaker> within the big spritelayout { ... } block
11:55:39  <planetmaker> for each tile
12:01:02  <Terkhen> treat them as constant parameters :P
12:01:38  *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
12:04:20  <andythenorth> my brain has ~15 years of reading functions :P
12:04:38  *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
12:04:43  <andythenorth> quick
12:04:44  <andythenorth> quak
12:05:10  <frosch123> moin :)
12:07:31  <Terkhen> hi frosch123
12:14:42  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 77:f07211f957b4: Change: set correct trailer + capacity for Hackler BB truck (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/f07211f957b4
12:15:18  <andythenorth> 9 tickets for FIRS 0.7.1, 23 tickets for 0.8.0
12:15:42  <andythenorth> ~50% are graphics tickets
13:07:13  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 78:7fae313b9e5c: Change: template trailer construction and capacity handling (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/7fae313b9e5c
13:12:03  *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC
13:20:58  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 79:fd3a763f1fe1: Change: set a fake capacity for buy menu (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/fd3a763f1fe1
13:28:56  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Bug #3477: undefined string (officercrockey) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3477#change-9091
13:37:10  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 80:7918f3f08113: Change: simplify use of includes by referencing number of trai... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/7918f3f08113
13:41:31  *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
13:57:02  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Revision 32:5217633fbd04: added cisalpino coaches (officercrockey) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dach/repository/revisions/5217633fbd04
14:20:01  <frosch123> yay, found a ogfx bug
14:22:07  <Ammler> planetmaker: interesting issue foobar rised up :-)
14:22:51  <Ammler> with existing system, I would simply use tag name like "<branch>-<version>"
14:24:24  <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/908/ <- fine?
14:24:49  <Ammler> a quick hack would be that we would not add such to finger and syslink via latest
14:25:06  <Ammler> sym*
14:31:36  <frosch123> hmm, the same bug applies to openttd's readme
14:33:22  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 81:a98302d986fe: Change: template further trailer things (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/a98302d986fe
14:48:40  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 902:6368575a90fe: Fix: Wrong path in readme.ptxt (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/6368575a90fe
14:56:19  *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
14:58:15  <planetmaker> he :-)
15:07:55  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 903:e9556cc1c685: Fix: wrong version information in readme.ptxt (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/e9556cc1c685
15:07:59  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 82:19444ba96e58: Change: allow support for custom capacity cbs (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/19444ba96e58
15:09:16  *** Mark has quit IRC
15:37:00  *** JVassie has quit IRC
15:38:21  *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
15:49:54  *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
15:49:55  *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark
16:05:02  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 83:3ccb6cd9d712: Change: set cargo subtype texts (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/3ccb6cd9d712
16:10:38  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 84:224d5cf0dba8: Change: improve cargo subtype texts (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/224d5cf0dba8
16:13:28  *** JVassie has quit IRC
16:14:42  *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
16:21:58  *** Zuu has quit IRC
16:33:46  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 85:634101b0be90: Change: unify capacity define for first trailer (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/634101b0be90
16:36:33  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 86:9f69708f1fd8: Change: consolidate capacity cbs for trailers (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/9f69708f1fd8
16:44:52  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 87:f72e1d90d0a5: Change: cargo subtype refits now affect capacity (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/f72e1d90d0a5
16:46:02  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3480 (New): Split new template for trucks with drag trailers (from semi-truck t... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3480
16:47:24  *** andythenorth has quit IRC
16:53:41  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 475:e29a343a2082: typo (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e29a343a2082
16:53:41  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 476:15caf8dda120: some comments (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/15caf8dda120
16:53:41  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 477:0a346baeb452: rework the parameter descriptions (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/0a346baeb452
16:53:41  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 478:fc71cc804d8f: dear oberhümer... WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT EM..... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/fc71cc804d8f
16:53:45  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 479:712e6a373be5: when you change the table heading, also c... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/712e6a373be5
16:53:49  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 480:d6e9d7e7f77c: wrong 'obsoleted by' entry (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/d6e9d7e7f77c
16:53:52  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3474 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3474#change-9096
17:09:27  <Brot6> cets: update from r472 to r480 done (519 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r480
17:32:22  <Brot6> firs: update from r2700 to r2701 done (6 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2701
17:52:24  *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
18:03:49  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r899 to r903 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r903
18:05:02  <Brot6> bandit: update from r70 to r87 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/r87
18:11:57  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3480 (Closed): Split new template for trucks with drag trailers (from semi-truc... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3480
18:11:57  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 88:5c74ecb7c29d: Change: split templates so fifth-wheel trucks can't refit to 0... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/5c74ecb7c29d
18:11:58  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3480 (Closed): Split new template for trucks with drag trailers (from semi-truc... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3480#change-9097
18:13:01  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3476 (Rejected): Template needed for drawbar/pup-trailer trucks (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3476#change-9098
18:15:07  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3481 (New): Trailer trucks - weight should vary with number of trailers (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3481
18:16:16  <Brot6> cets: update from r469 to r480 done (519 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r480
18:18:18  <Brot6> dutchroadfurniture: update from r94 to r110 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchroadfurniture/nightlies/r110
18:19:30  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3482 (New): Trams should change weight according to cargo... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3482
18:19:40  <Brot6> dach: update from r31 to r32 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dach/nightlies/r32
18:27:52  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 89:72dc9dd241a7: Codechange: refactor template names to make more sense (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/72dc9dd241a7
18:35:35  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 90:9ad8fa51ca8e: Codechange: refactor names for trailer template (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/9ad8fa51ca8e
18:38:03  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 91:9cb7df940dc5: Codechange: set a define for trailer graphics file (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/9cb7df940dc5
18:38:44  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 92:42906cf3462e: Fix: pasted a define into a deprecated file; fixed (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/42906cf3462e
18:38:59  <andythenorth> Terkhen: planetmaker BANDIT spritesets are now starting to look like those in FIRS :P
18:39:15  <andythenorth> apart from where I do the CPP concatenate
18:40:07  <planetmaker> well. just walk the path. You might end up in a very similar place ,-)
18:40:33  <andythenorth> interesting to see if you could read it :P
18:40:43  <andythenorth> the test would be if you could add a new truck
18:40:55  <andythenorth> albeit it's not done yet
19:03:35  <planetmaker> apropos, andythenorth : http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/PalettesAndCoordinates#Coordinates <-- care to add a small paragraph on the light direction there?
19:05:47  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3483 (New): NS 400 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3483
19:06:28  <andythenorth> "remembering that the light comes from the bottom-right in Transport Tycoon. That means that you have to draw the left side of the buildings in the shade, darker than the right side."
19:06:34  <andythenorth> from here: http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/StationDrawingTutorial
19:07:52  <Terkhen> andythenorth: we made various attempts at templating until we reached the current solution, there might be a better one but you'll end up understanding ours if you try to code your own :P
19:08:11  <andythenorth> Terkhen: I'm getting there
19:08:24  <andythenorth> vehicles are much simpler than advanced tile layouts though ;)
19:08:48  <Terkhen> yup
19:08:52  <Terkhen> but still :P
19:08:59  <andythenorth> we seem to have many different templates...
19:09:28  <Terkhen> some where duplicated because of... good reasons that I don't remember
19:10:34  <planetmaker> we have old and new templates and stuff
19:10:41  <planetmaker> we probably should cleanup that
19:10:53  <planetmaker> one reason might have been slope awareness yes/no
19:11:06  <planetmaker> the slope awareness costs much computation power also ingame
19:12:30  <Terkhen> true
19:12:34  <Terkhen> that was one of the good duplications
19:14:55  <planetmaker> surely there are bad ones. I'm *quite* sure ;-)
19:55:09  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Bug #3484 (New): only one version of drive specific objects should show de... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3484
19:58:59  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3485 (New): guardrails for shoulder tiles (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3485
20:01:45  <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Feature #3486 (New): sound barriers for shoulder tiles (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3486
20:12:09  *** Jupix has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
20:55:40  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3468: NS 450 (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3468#change-9102
21:04:14  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3483: NS 400 (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3483#change-9103
21:13:09  *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone
21:16:46  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1786:f5341d88005f: Fix: groff warning about manpage (blathijs) (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/f5341d88005f
21:42:28  *** andythenorth has quit IRC
22:59:21  *** ODM has quit IRC
23:06:58  *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC
23:18:36  *** frosch123 has quit IRC
23:21:13  *** JVassie has quit IRC
23:37:19  *** Zuu has quit IRC

Powered by YARRSTE version: svn-trunk