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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 14th March 2012:
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01:26:03  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3814 (New): "Illegal character" error (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3814
01:51:49  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3814: "Illegal character" error (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3814#change-10013
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09:01:14  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Support #3795: Purchase menu sprites specification (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3795#change-10014
09:02:57  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3806: ICM Templating (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3806#change-10015
09:10:45  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3814 (Rejected): "Illegal character" error (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3814
09:10:45  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3814 (Rejected): "Illegal character" error (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3814#change-10016
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10:01:21  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3815 (New): DH1/2 naming (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3815
10:02:45  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3815 (New): DH1/2 naming (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3815
10:02:45  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3811 (Closed): DH1+DH2 purchase + template (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3811#change-10017
10:08:31  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3816 (New): Water cycle in white/blue ICL (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3816
10:08:31  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature Request #3817 (New): Option to have no cab control with ICR (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3817
10:10:56  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3818 (New): Cannot use different liveries for different MUs in the same t... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3818
10:21:36  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3810: TGV template+depot (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3810#change-10019
10:44:44  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3085: Unwanted closures (HeiRos) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3085#change-10020
11:44:24  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3814: "Illegal character" error (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3814#change-10021
11:55:25  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3810: TGV template+depot (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3810#change-10022
11:57:25  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature Request #3817: Option to have no cab control with ICR (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3817#change-10023
11:59:03  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3818: Cannot use different liveries for different MUs in the same train (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3818#change-10024
12:01:57  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3685: review sparks/smoke (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3685#change-10025
12:06:20  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature Request #3817 (New): Option to have no cab control with ICR/DDM (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3817
12:06:20  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature Request #3817: Option to have no cab control with ICR/DDM (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3817#change-10023
12:06:20  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature Request #3817: Option to have no cab control with ICR/DDM (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3817#change-10026
12:13:35  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3818: Cannot use different liveries for different MUs in the same train (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3818#change-10027
12:15:17  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3685: review sparks/smoke (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3685#change-10028
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15:34:13  <andythenorth> so do map layers do something like store an bit index and a layer index?
15:34:26  <andythenorth> or is that a schoolboy solution?
15:35:10  <planetmaker> a height
15:35:48  <andythenorth> how interestink
15:35:56  <andythenorth> how would that free roadtype bits though?
15:36:07  * andythenorth can see how it would work for elevated trams :P
15:36:18  <planetmaker> in the first place: not at all
15:36:34  <planetmaker> but you could assign different number of bytes to different tile types
15:36:51  <Nat_aS> are we talking about making map's layered so we can have subways?
15:36:56  <Nat_aS> and elivated trains
15:36:58  <planetmaker> but maybe we talk of different things, andythenorth. Not sure
15:37:14  <Nat_aS> and skyways
15:37:21  <planetmaker> and planes even
15:38:49  <andythenorth> eddi wrote "then each MP_ROAD "tile" would only have one roadtype, but you could layer multiple MP_ROAD "tiles" over each other"
15:40:12  <andythenorth> so it doesn't free bits
15:40:14  <andythenorth> k
15:40:19  <andythenorth> nothing to see here :)
15:41:42  <planetmaker> well, yes. Though I'd not call it different 'tiles'. But that's semantics
15:42:37  <planetmaker> but there's enought to store for each road type to at least fill a complete byte (owner=4, road bits=... more than 4 iirc)
16:47:52  <andythenorth> Ammler: do you know the term devops?
16:48:05  <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DevOps
16:48:06  <Webster> Title: DevOps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
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16:51:22  * planetmaker didn't
16:52:16  <andythenorth> some of the work done here uses devops kind of thinking
16:52:25  <andythenorth> rather than traditional sysops
16:52:45  <planetmaker> seems like, yes
16:52:56  <planetmaker> which is totally ok with me :-)
16:53:12  <andythenorth> we're not really running webapps, except the CF and devzone :)
16:53:32  <andythenorth> Bananas suffers horribly from lack of devops :P :D
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16:54:41  <planetmaker> well... yes
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16:54:53  <planetmaker> though it wouldn't need more webapps, would it?
16:54:57  <planetmaker> At least currently
16:55:04  <andythenorth> no
16:55:22  * andythenorth was just being careful not to take a new word and apply it everywhere, incorrectly :P
16:55:26  <andythenorth> bad habit I have
16:55:52  <planetmaker> otoh, if there's a need for something... we certainly can accomodate nearly anything. But it might need a motivated helping hand, if it's a special, complicated request ;-)
16:56:23  <andythenorth> no no, all is fine :)
17:06:35  <andythenorth> also https://twitter.com/#!/devops_borat
17:06:36  <Webster> Title: Twitter (at twitter.com)
17:13:00  <planetmaker> He is has a language issue some
17:13:49  <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat
17:13:50  <Webster> Title: Borat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
18:04:06  <Ammler> andythenorth: what yu need a devop for?
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18:13:38  <andythenorth> Ammler: I think you are sometimes being devop
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21:46:02  <andythenorth> Ammler: you will like this: http://teddziuba.com/2011/03/osx-unsuitable-web-development.html
21:46:04  <Webster> Title: MacOS X is an Unsuitable Platform for Web Development (at teddziuba.com)
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22:22:35  <Ammler> not sure, why I should like it, he does not really recommend osx
22:25:01  <Ammler> well, if you think, because he is right, well, not sure I am looking for someone explaining me how bad osx is, I knew that already years ago
22:57:37  <andythenorth> "One of the unfortunate trends in OS X package management is the idea that the user should be compiling everything."
22:57:43  <andythenorth> meh
22:57:51  <andythenorth> there are other options? :o
22:57:56  * andythenorth -> bed ;)
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