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04:27:45  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 350:54bb6f2505e0: Reworked model library and added new models. Models req... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/54bb6f2505e0
04:27:45  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 351:1051af5ff288: Added new models to the model list (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/1051af5ff288
04:27:45  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 352:7b421df490d0: Merge (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/7b421df490d0
04:46:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2749:e5f8fd3583fb: Codechange: make a define global (closes... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e5f8fd3583fb
04:46:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #3916 (Closed): THIS_PRODUCTION_SPAN should be global, n... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3916#change-10504
04:47:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2750:f25526f92a23: Codechange: comment 'persistent' not 'pe... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f25526f92a23
04:48:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1860 (Rejected): Additional Lumber Yard layouts (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1860#change-10505
04:50:38  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2238 (Rejected): Decide whether prospecting probabilities n... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2238#change-10507
04:54:40  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2936 (Rejected): Review substitute type in order to help AI... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2936#change-10508
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08:57:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2751:8e967ce4fe85: Feature: (translations) introduce 'bales... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8e967ce4fe85
08:57:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3426 (Closed): Introduce cargo unit for 'bales' (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3426#change-10512
09:05:29  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 485:a23313fe5376: Feature: Eass wagon (graphics by Purno) (templated by Tr... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/a23313fe5376
09:05:29  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 486:84f7ae9490da: Feature: Es wagon (graphics by Purno) (templated by Tran... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/84f7ae9490da
09:05:29  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3891 (Closed): Open Goederenwagon 3 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3891#change-10513
09:05:30  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3893 (Closed): Open Goederenwagon2 sprites+purchase menu sprites (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3893#change-10514
09:06:51  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 487:2b12090c4b35: Cleanup: untemplated graphic files (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/2b12090c4b35
09:09:28  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3927 (New): Support for advanced track sets (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3927
09:11:36  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Bug #3818: Cannot use different liveries for different MUs in the same train (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3818#change-10515
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10:58:41  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #3928 (New): Sprites for town happiness (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3928
12:47:14  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 70:08bd06528d3c: Codechange: merging the alternative_railtype_lists for M... (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtracks/repository/revisions/08bd06528d3c
12:47:14  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 71:9efdf8f0cb90: Add: Modified graphics for Betuwe Overlaysprites to remo... (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtracks/repository/revisions/9efdf8f0cb90
12:54:23  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3927: Support for advanced track sets (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3927#change-10516
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13:29:44  <V453000> Hello! the idiot is back! This time I am trying to make an universal rail but I am getting some error message in game... what does that mean please? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/sprite7error.png here is the railtype code http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1338/
13:30:58  <V453000> does the ID have to be some specific value?
13:31:06  <V453000> like  item(FEAT_RAILTYPES, elrail, 0x01) { ?
13:33:07  <frosch123> thanks V453000 :)
13:33:13  <V453000> xd
13:34:32  <V453000> is it needed to have a vehicle for a rail type?
13:35:03  <V453000> oh trains dont run on it anyway
13:35:06  <V453000> hmm
13:36:47  <frosch123> V453000: did you maybe not set a railtype label?
13:37:00  <V453000> label: 							"UNIV";
13:37:08  <V453000> compatible_railtype_list:		["UNIV", "RAIL", "ELRL", "MONO", "MGLV"];
13:37:27  <V453000> this should make vehicles from all other rail types also run on UNIV, or am I getting it wrong?
13:37:34  <V453000> (I apparently am :o)
13:37:39  <frosch123> item (FEAT_RAILTYPES, universalrail, 97){ <- what? 97?
13:38:01  <V453000> I have 0x01
13:38:07  <V453000> I dont know what value to put there
13:38:31  <frosch123> some value between 0 and 15
13:38:46  <frosch123> you can only have 16 railtypes per grf (well, also global)
13:38:51  <frosch123> so you cannot set ids >= 16
13:39:14  <V453000> ok :)
13:39:39  <V453000> trying with 15
13:41:01  <V453000> so I have http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1340/ but there are no vehicles available for that railtype
13:41:10  <V453000> nor can other railtype trains drive on it
13:41:15  <V453000> what am I doing wrong please? :(
13:44:00  <frosch123> add "item"s for all the entries in your railtypelatable (but without setting the label), and set introduces_railtype_list to "UNIV" for them
13:44:27  <frosch123> railtypes are only introduced if there is an explicit vehicle for them, or they are triggered by the introduction of other railtypes
13:44:54  <frosch123> e.g. elrail is only available if you have elrail engines
13:45:03  <frosch123> no matter whether normal engines could use it as well
13:45:05  <V453000> but I have the rail available
13:45:12  <V453000> even without a specific engine for it
13:45:34  <V453000> railtypetable { 	RAIL, ELRL, MONO, MGLV, UNIV } like that?
13:46:21  <V453000> if possible I actually do not even want a specific engine for this rail, I just want all vehicles to be able to run on it
13:46:24  <frosch123> then you have to set the same number in the item as in your table
13:46:56  <frosch123> [15:46] <V453000> if possible I actually do not even want a specific engine for this rail, I just want all vehicles to be able to run on it <- that's the introduces_railtype_list thingie
13:47:25  <frosch123> anyway, if no vehicles run on your rail at all, then i have no idea
13:48:03  <V453000> which "number" the ID? But the table has a label?
13:51:37  <frosch123> hmm, swedish rails can live without railtypetable apparently
13:52:00  <Brot6> Japanese Trains - Revision 65:5dea8655da1e: Update early steamer stats and names. (dandan) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/jptrains/repository/revisions/5dea8655da1e
13:52:12  <planetmaker> It's a special case. SER only re-defines the default labels
13:53:10  <frosch123> V453000: anyway, elrail vehicles should be able to run on your track
13:53:34  <frosch123> hmm, why did you put MGLV only into compatible, not into powered?
13:53:42  <V453000> I have everything in powered now
13:53:51  <V453000> and everything in compatible
13:54:08  <V453000> but still does not work with any vehicles from any other rail
13:54:20  <V453000> should I try to add a special engine only for this track?
13:54:37  <frosch123> no, that is only for availability
13:54:52  <V453000> hm
13:57:47  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 488:7f85ed02bb22: Feature: Dm wagon (graphics by Voyager One) (issue #3899... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/7f85ed02bb22
13:57:47  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 489:ee089b9e1c6d: Feature: Pd 7011-7021 mailcoach (graphics by Voyager One... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/ee089b9e1c6d
13:57:47  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 490:bfdd44afcebe: Feature: new graphics for Hbbkkss (graphics by Voyager O... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/bfdd44afcebe
13:57:49  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 491:1de017a80183: Feature: Gs boxcar (graphics by Voyager One) (issue #389... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/1de017a80183
13:57:53  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 492:b8db81df816a: Feature: SS D-II baggage wagon (graphics by Voyager One)... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/b8db81df816a
13:57:59  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 493:ab90af02b160: Feature: SS D-III baggage wagon (graphics by Voyager One... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/ab90af02b160
13:58:26  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3899 (Closed): Postrijtuigen and similar (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3899#change-10517
14:02:49  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature Request #3917: Additional liveries' requests (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3917#change-10518
14:04:29  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature Request #3917: Additional liveries' requests (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3917#change-10518
14:07:07  <V453000> dumped my issue on the forums :) lets see if someone has some ideas
14:17:39  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 494:8722bda6f513: Fix: cargo capacities for passenger carriages (issue #39... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/8722bda6f513
14:38:57  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 495:92ec457b1438: Fix: cargo capacities for DMUs (issue #3918) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/92ec457b1438
14:38:58  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 496:7ea6cce6562b: Fix: cargo capacities for metros (issue #3918) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/7ea6cce6562b
14:38:58  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 497:ffe3520e6a9a: Fix: cargo capacities for EMUs (closes #3918) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/ffe3520e6a9a
14:38:59  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Bug #3918 (Closed): cargo capacities (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3918#change-10519
15:13:30  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 353:fa269f859d14: Fixed pass index after library changes and added new ve... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/fa269f859d14
15:13:30  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 354:a536aaf526fc: Added new models to the model list (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/a536aaf526fc
15:16:45  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 498:6372110e7914: Feature: consistency of vehicle names (closes #3646, iss... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/6372110e7914
15:16:45  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3646 (Closed): Review vehicle names for consistency (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3646#change-10520
15:36:59  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #3928: Sprites for town happiness (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3928#change-10521
15:59:04  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 499:574b6e95ebd3: Change: purchase menu alternative vehicle names (issue #... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/574b6e95ebd3
16:02:05  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Revision 500:dc2c1bee3044: Change: properties of HSM D-IV baggage carriage (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/dc2c1bee3044
16:09:32  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #3928: Sprites for town happiness (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3928#change-10522
16:10:05  <Terkhen> :O
16:10:08  <Terkhen> is that possible now?
16:11:21  <frosch123> blame michi :p
16:11:54  <frosch123> and his productive boredome over easter :)
16:12:12  <Terkhen> nice, I missed that specific commit in that huge list of commits :P
17:34:59  <Brot6> ogfx-trains: update from r349 to r354 done (51 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trains/nightlies/r354
17:39:15  <Brot6> firs: update from r2740 to r2751 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2751
17:42:21  <Brot6> dutchtrains: update from r473 to r500 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtrains/nightlies/r500
17:43:45  <Brot6> dutchtracks: update from r69 to r71 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtracks/nightlies/r71
17:46:09  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r469 still failed (#3900) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r469
17:47:51  <Brot6> make-nml: compile of r0 still failed (#3730) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/make-nml/nightlies/ERROR/r0
17:48:33  <Brot6> metrotrackset: compile of r59 still failed (#3882) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/metrotrackset/nightlies/ERROR/r59
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18:56:25  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2752:9fdc11bc78b8: Feature: improved appearance of Cement P... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9fdc11bc78b8
19:05:58  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - cb_15f_fail.png (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/2874/cb_15f_fail.png
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21:20:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3929 (New): Cement plant animation not smooth (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3929
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23:32:09  <V453000> HOLY SHIT I MADE IT :D ... the issue with the universal rail was that I have to re-define all other railtypes as well, and each of them also has to have set the compatibility with UNIV
23:36:06  <michi_cc> Isn't that exactly what http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0/Railtypes#Compatible_rail_type_list_.280E.29 tells you to do?
23:39:40  <V453000> :o
23:39:42  <V453000> didnt read that
23:40:01  <V453000> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Railtypes I just read this :d
23:40:04  <V453000> next time :p thanks
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23:48:04  <michi_cc> Maybe it will be different somewhen in the future, but for now the NFO descriptions are definitely the more complete ones.
23:49:11  <V453000> I see :)

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