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00:19:39 <michi_cc> Xotic750: OTTD trunk can also display brighter company colours. Brightness depends on both the palette remap colour and the brightness of the RGB pixel, which you can increase independently of the palette part. 00:22:05 <Xotic750> and that would be done through nml? 00:22:28 <michi_cc> No, through your graphics editor. 00:23:23 <michi_cc> Brightness for the blitter is simply max(R,G,B), with 64 being neutral (i.e. no change to the palette colour). 00:25:10 <Xotic750> aha, I would have to go back to blender for that otherwise the shadows would be altered 00:26:04 <Xotic750> something to tinker with once I get through the templating 00:26:08 <Xotic750> but thanks 00:28:44 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 01:12:00 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 437:6edccfa1c1f8: Change adds 32bpp templates for flatbed wagons (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/6edccfa1c1f8 01:24:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 438:adc3d224d5ad: Change adds 32bpp TIM and Liveries (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/adc3d224d5ad 01:24:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 439:b2458ca081c7: Change adds 32bpp TIM and Liveries (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/b2458ca081c7 01:38:38 <Brot6> Britrains (BROS based on CETS) - Revision 39:629c7b3f7e65: Fix: Temporarily disable GRFCodec and use... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/629c7b3f7e65 01:38:38 <Brot6> Britrains (BROS based on CETS) - Revision 40:25f17d2a2e21: some merge (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/25f17d2a2e21 03:08:37 *** Nat_aS has quit IRC 03:08:51 *** Nat_aS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:12:18 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 440:6f219d286676: Change adds template tmpl_engine8_42 for simulating 8 v... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/6f219d286676 04:38:59 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 441:50540a5c70a5: Re-templates standard engines, fixes switch order, fixe... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/50540a5c70a5 04:50:34 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 442:039b3de96b30: Fixes switch order, fixed Livestock to point to correct... (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/039b3de96b30 05:41:31 *** NataS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:41:31 *** Nat_aS has quit IRC 05:45:35 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:57:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:13:54 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:29:32 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:10:42 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 10:52:15 <planetmaker> moin 12:36:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2796:ae853de37fd4: Update: French translation (OliTTD) (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ae853de37fd4 12:39:53 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2797:c098be89fb0f: Feature: Australian English translation ... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c098be89fb0f 13:48:58 <Xotic750> I guess planetmaker is back from his travels? 13:49:23 <planetmaker> yes, kinda :-) 13:49:24 <planetmaker> hi 13:49:35 <Xotic750> hi :) 13:49:57 <planetmaker> drove 2900km in 72 hours :S 13:50:14 <Xotic750> spain? 13:50:24 <planetmaker> vicinity of Rome 13:50:32 <Xotic750> aha :) 13:51:34 <planetmaker> and all that for 2 seconds observation time :-P 13:51:55 <Xotic750> what did you observe then? 13:52:13 <planetmaker> the ocultation of zeta tauri by the moon 13:52:43 <planetmaker> in principle it should give us the star's diameter... Not sure we succeeded, though 13:57:27 <Xotic750> cool :) you like your astronomy then 13:58:18 <planetmaker> that's what pays my bills... 13:58:35 <planetmaker> :-P 13:59:04 <Xotic750> :) 14:00:02 <Xotic750> I hope everything is in order with the nml and templating that I've done? sure you haven't had time to look yet :) 14:00:50 <planetmaker> afraid, I didn't yet 14:00:58 <planetmaker> :-( 14:01:10 <planetmaker> At least not since we last spoke 14:02:08 <Xotic750> well, I'm sure it could all use a review 14:03:02 <Xotic750> trying to find a nice photo of the eurostar and tuv at the moment to see what details can be added to the carriages 14:03:33 <Xotic750> but everything looks quite smooth and featureless in real life 14:11:21 <V453000> use your imagination then :p 14:11:31 <V453000> real life is limited 14:12:51 <Xotic750> I don't think I want to recess the doors and windows like with the original carriages, but I guess I will find something 14:13:01 <planetmaker> indeed. Just adding stuff which looks good ingame is enough 14:13:20 <planetmaker> reality can only be a guide in the best of circumstances :-) 14:13:46 <V453000> I usually end up adding some black/otherCC/yellow stripe or something similar 14:14:01 <V453000> if there is too much space looking uniform 14:14:43 <planetmaker> or probably the wagons could do simply with some micro detail, like small signs (different shade of colour), a hint of a door frame by slightly different colour or so 14:14:52 <planetmaker> hint of wagon number (1 or 2 px) 14:14:56 <planetmaker> stuff like that 14:15:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:16:33 <V453000> yeah 14:16:39 <Xotic750> I just found a good photo that has given some idea about the livery that should improve things a bit, and decals are possible but I was wondering about copyright with using actual decals 14:16:56 <planetmaker> what's "decals"? 14:17:13 <Xotic750> like from GNER, BR or Eurostar etc etc 14:17:13 <planetmaker> ah, nvm 14:17:16 <V453000> stickers? 14:17:28 <planetmaker> you can't properly draw them anyway. So that'll be no issue 14:17:29 <Xotic750> yep, the distinctive symbols 14:17:36 <V453000> well in EZ you can :z 14:17:36 <planetmaker> you can only hint at them. In the approx. colour 14:17:53 <planetmaker> I think even 4x won't resolve it sufficiently? 14:18:08 <V453000> idk not my cup of tea :) 14:18:33 <planetmaker> in any case, I'd not add real logos. It should remain somewhat generic 14:18:57 <Xotic750> I will see if I can find some similar decals 14:19:16 <planetmaker> Just make it illegible, if it's letters. There's pseudo-letters ;-) 14:19:32 <planetmaker> How big can that be? 4px height? 14:20:21 <Xotic750> sure, but the textures will come from real photos 14:20:26 <Xotic750> and as they are sources will need to be published 14:21:03 <planetmaker> the photos? 14:21:24 <Xotic750> yes, that is how you add textures 14:21:35 <andythenorth> replicating the real logos infringes copyright 14:21:49 <andythenorth> replicating anything that is trademarked infringes trademark 14:21:49 <planetmaker> or at least trademarks 14:22:08 <planetmaker> can't the textures simply be drawn? 14:22:17 <Xotic750> I will find something generic, free but simple 14:22:34 <Xotic750> yes, they can be drawn and saved as a jpg or png 14:22:37 <planetmaker> (honest question) 14:22:40 <Xotic750> and then used the same way 14:22:45 <planetmaker> ok 14:23:16 <Xotic750> it's a whole different world from pixel art :) 14:23:37 <planetmaker> :-D 14:23:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2798:48d3f138bf85: Fix: pluralise 'bales' cargo unit correc... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/48d3f138bf85 14:24:02 <V453000> :> 14:24:29 <andythenorth> should use a 3D engine] 14:24:42 <planetmaker> what would it help? 14:25:08 <andythenorth> particle effects! 14:25:12 <andythenorth> weather! 14:25:14 <planetmaker> btw, Xotic750, did you encounter any other problems with pushes the time I was offline which needed recovery? 14:25:14 <andythenorth> rotation! 14:25:41 <Xotic750> I've been playing with particle effects, simulating smoke and steam 14:25:56 <Xotic750> all problems gone now using ssh :) 14:26:06 <planetmaker> ah, Ammler installed that? 14:26:08 <planetmaker> good 14:26:12 <Xotic750> yep 14:26:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2799:d25fd94d278c: Update: Dutch translation. (Alberth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d25fd94d278c 14:56:22 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttdcoop.org/openttd/graph/19743?revcount=240 <-- Ammler that looks weired wrt the tags... The 1.2.0 tag is there multiple times and the others don't have their own branch similarily 16:54:45 <Xotic750> planetmaker: can all the warnings be fixed by just replacing refittable_cargo_types with cargo_disallow_refit: [type, type, type] ? 16:55:21 <planetmaker> that would give a different refit result 16:55:40 <planetmaker> actually... good point... it's been "broken" for too long... 16:56:43 <Xotic750> just wondered if I could fix it while I wait for my asia star models to be re-rendered 16:57:35 <planetmaker> it needs introduction of cargo_allow_refit and cargo_disallow_refit 16:57:56 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/cargo_rework.diff <-- like this 16:58:10 <planetmaker> but I never found the time to actually test that properly so that it gives the same result as now 16:58:18 <planetmaker> that's why it's not yet submitted :-) 16:59:32 <planetmaker> it's a tedious process to check whether results are the same for *every* cargo 16:59:47 <planetmaker> and that means for default industries, PBI, ECS and FIRS 16:59:53 <planetmaker> and OpenGFX+Industries 17:00:14 <planetmaker> though the latter should rather be unproblematic, but better give a brief check, too 17:01:11 <andythenorth> why so many disallow checks? 17:01:32 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3763 has another start on the patch. 17:01:42 <planetmaker> which, andythenorth? 17:01:52 <andythenorth> in the cargo_rework.diff 17:01:53 <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3945 (New): om(B)C series 1900 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3945 17:01:54 <planetmaker> you mean explicitly disallowing cargos 17:01:56 <andythenorth> yes 17:01:56 <planetmaker> ? 17:02:13 <planetmaker> easier to do, IMHO. Disallow all known cargos. Except those you explicitly want 17:02:19 <planetmaker> And add those to the allow list 17:02:19 <andythenorth> +0.99 17:02:56 <planetmaker> that's how I created it: list of all cargos and disallow them. Then move cargos to the allow list depending on wagon 17:03:01 <andythenorth> seems overkill for PAX and MAIL classes 17:03:05 <planetmaker> yes 17:03:13 <andythenorth> otherwise makes sense 17:03:52 <planetmaker> but maybe someone creates a cargo which is PASS and FOOD and GOOD (soylent green). I want to exclude that :-P 17:03:58 <planetmaker> or so ;-) 17:04:15 <Xotic750> guess I'll give that a miss :) 17:04:28 <andythenorth> you could always add it later ;) 17:04:34 <Xotic750> also I've introduced a load of warning 17:04:35 <Xotic750> "src/gfx/flatbed/rail_flatbed_refineryproducts_temperate.png" at [x: 0, y: 0]: 80 of 18582 pixels (0%) are pure white 17:04:48 <planetmaker> fix it ;-) 17:04:50 <andythenorth> that'll be white pixels then 17:04:50 <Xotic750> I'm guessing I've accidently replaced a template with the wrong one 17:05:12 <Xotic750> I don't rember them when I originally began 17:05:30 <planetmaker> you either cut wrongly somewhere or you put pure white pixels somewhere - which should rather be 0xFCFCFC 17:05:50 <Xotic750> well, that's an original png 17:06:01 <Xotic750> not 32bpp related 17:06:15 <planetmaker> hm, indeed. But... why ... would they change at all? 17:06:40 <Xotic750> well, when I added the 32bpp sprites, I created some new templates 17:06:45 <Xotic750> or definitions 17:07:04 <Xotic750> and I'm guessing I have copied a wrong template somewher 17:07:10 <planetmaker> yes... but... do they (also) apply to the original 8bpp? 17:07:44 <planetmaker> and if so: why? 17:07:45 <Xotic750> the definitions do, the cpp ones 17:07:51 <planetmaker> hu? 17:08:07 <Xotic750> as they do the old 8bpp definitions plus the new 32bpp stuff 17:08:47 <Xotic750> these ones 17:08:49 <Xotic750> #define ENGINE_GRAPHICS_TROPICAL_SWITCH(name) \ 17:08:49 <Xotic750> switch (FEAT_TRAINS, SELF, name ## _switch, CLIMATE_PARAM) { \ 17:08:49 <Xotic750> CLIMATE_TROPICAL: name ## _tropical_group; \ 17:08:49 <Xotic750> name ## _default_group; \ 17:08:49 <Xotic750> } 17:08:49 <planetmaker> oh, you mean you created a common template for 8bpp and 32bpp 17:08:53 <Xotic750> yes 17:09:05 <Xotic750> so it does the 8bpp and 32bpp 17:09:19 <planetmaker> ehm, no, that won't introduce white pixel warnings 17:09:25 <planetmaker> Only the real sprite definitions can cause that 17:09:29 <Xotic750> so my guess is I copied the wrong template as a parameter 17:09:47 <Xotic750> for refinery products 17:09:58 <Xotic750> but I don't know what template it should be 17:10:00 <planetmaker> you must have changed somewhere the spriteset definition for that vehicle for 8bpp 17:10:11 <planetmaker> the switch has no business in that 17:11:17 <Xotic750> it may be that those warning were there originally, I don't remember 17:11:32 <planetmaker> test it 17:11:37 <planetmaker> hg up -rXXX is easy ;-) 17:13:13 <planetmaker> I can't guarantee it, but I usually check every sprite commit for that warning to NOT show 17:13:40 <planetmaker> and... I need to switch to using ssh for that repo, too 17:14:28 <Xotic750> :) 17:15:05 <planetmaker> well... that's not a very good thing really. 17:15:16 <planetmaker> It means people will have issues to checkout the repo via http 17:15:31 <planetmaker> and pushing via ssh is kinda a security issue, too :-( 17:15:42 <Xotic750> chechout was always fine, just pushes were a problem for me 17:15:52 <planetmaker> failed twice for me now 17:16:42 <Xotic750> how is pushing by ssh rather than https a security issue 17:18:00 <planetmaker> It allows commits to an arbitrary repo 17:18:24 <planetmaker> while https only allows to those where you're manager 17:19:08 <Xotic750> surely that's a permission configuration issue? 17:20:34 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:20:53 <planetmaker> possibly. But it also means more admin work. While the config via redmine permissions needs no work there from our side 17:21:08 <Xotic750> ok 17:21:57 <planetmaker> basically we didn't yet limit ssh to a per-repo access as we know all those who have 17:22:03 <Xotic750> well, if you can fix http/s so that it doesn't break with 200Mb + then we can use it :) 17:22:16 <planetmaker> he, yeah :S 17:22:28 <planetmaker> bah. Still pulling 17:26:48 <planetmaker> you were busy ;-) "Fügte 93 Änderungssätze mit 7705 Änderungen an 7398 Dateien hinzu " 17:28:11 <Xotic750> yep :) 17:31:16 <Xotic750> ok, I went from tmpl_railwagon to tmpl_railwagon42, so I guess the warnings must have already been there 17:31:51 <Xotic750> just more noticeable now because there are more warning than before 17:33:02 <Xotic750> will be uploading the ammended asia star sprites soon, thay have a little more detail and a livery change, so not so solid coloured any more 17:33:15 <planetmaker> more warnings means there are more bugs now? 17:33:23 <planetmaker> every warning is a bug 17:33:50 <Xotic750> no, tmpl_railwagon42 just repeats entires 17:33:57 <Xotic750> so same number of bugs 17:33:58 <Xotic750> :) 17:34:21 <Xotic750> just same bug repeated 17:34:41 <planetmaker> uhm... but with tmpl_railwagon42 you assume that the wagon is symmetric... ? 17:34:49 <planetmaker> that's iirc wrong fo the barrel wagons 17:35:21 <Xotic750> well, I need 8 sprites and that was the best I could think of at the time 17:36:33 <Xotic750> but yes I assumed 4 sprites were symmetric 17:38:18 <planetmaker> yes, 4 sprites are symmetric... I've the feeling we talk past each other and that I might have to refresh my memory first on how things work before I continue to argue ;-) 17:38:34 <planetmaker> also... I don't get a white pixel warning 17:39:04 <planetmaker> hm... why is my grf only 4 MB? 17:39:21 <Xotic750> it shoul be in the range of about 14Mb 17:39:31 <planetmaker> 14 or 140? 17:39:48 <Xotic750> 14Mb 17:40:02 <planetmaker> hm, Xotic750, can you review the style for commit messages please? 17:40:13 <planetmaker> Using a uniform style makes it MUCH easier to generate changelogs 17:40:39 <Xotic750> what style should I use? 17:41:11 <planetmaker> The one I use :-P 17:41:30 <planetmaker> hm..http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Writing_Commit_Messages 17:41:58 <planetmaker> Fix #3943: flobber was broken 17:42:16 <planetmaker> Change: Adjusted light settings for model XY 17:42:19 <planetmaker> Codechange: Re-ordered some templates 17:42:26 <Brot6> planetmaker: #3943 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3943 "Code Review #3943: Change template dimensions - Central European Train Set - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 17:42:29 <planetmaker> Feature: Added new sprites for MU XY 17:42:39 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:42:39 <Xotic750> ball, I just accidently tried to commit over https and broke it :) hg recover needed 17:42:51 <planetmaker> Feature #4003: Add TGV introduced in 2010 17:43:24 <planetmaker> Fix #3913 (r933): Models for TIM were accidentially flipped 17:43:51 <planetmaker> hu, how do you do that accidentially? Don't you have your .hg/hgrc configured? 17:43:57 <Brot6> planetmaker: #3913 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3913 "Support #3913: Templated steamers - Dutch Trains 2 - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 17:44:21 <Xotic750> yes, but I use multple machines :) 17:44:34 <Xotic750> and this one still had the https address in it too, as default 17:44:40 <planetmaker> aye 17:45:29 <Xotic750> I will make sure that commit messages are more standard in future 17:45:38 <Xotic750> now I know about it 17:45:43 <planetmaker> I know, I didn't tell you :-) 17:46:20 <Xotic750> it's all a learning curve 17:46:20 <planetmaker> Basically it's a style very similar to the OpenTTD commit messages themselves. Though not identical 17:46:35 <planetmaker> well, it's nothing critical. But... it breaks my "make_changelog" script ;-) 17:46:56 <planetmaker> which allows me usually to make changelogs meanwhile pretty fast :-P 17:47:23 <Xotic750> just replace everything that I have done with something like add: 32bpp sprites : 17:47:45 <Xotic750> otherwise it's going to be huge anyway :P 17:47:51 <planetmaker> Yes, that's the manual post-process which would be needed anyway 17:47:58 <planetmaker> Users want a concise history. Not a per-commit one 17:48:45 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/make_changelog <-- if you're interested ;-) 17:49:27 <Xotic750> I don't know if you have any say or influence in the matter but .... 17:50:01 <Xotic750> I was thinking it would be nice if we can get the trains onto the openttdcoop welcome server 17:50:31 <planetmaker> We can do that, when we make a release. 17:50:52 <planetmaker> As we have the policy to use bananas-only NewGRFs there 17:51:21 <Xotic750> at what point would you consider the work release worthy? Do we need a full set of everything created and rendered? 17:51:22 <planetmaker> And sure enough, then it can be arranged 17:51:53 <planetmaker> No, we don't need a full set of everything. That'd be work for a too long period of time 17:52:31 <Xotic750> for standard temperate I think we have everything except steamers just now 17:52:45 <planetmaker> In principle we can make a release any time when it's good to get something out 17:52:53 <planetmaker> "release early, release often" :-) 17:53:36 <Xotic750> but yes, the welcome server seems like a nice place to start :) 17:53:44 <planetmaker> very much indeed 17:54:16 <Xotic750> did you hg recover? 17:54:21 <Xotic750> so I can upload? 17:54:35 <planetmaker> yes 17:54:43 <planetmaker> it's finished meanwhile 17:54:54 <planetmaker> it kinda triggered obviously a load warning on the server :S 17:55:33 <planetmaker> something I should consider next time. Maybe some nicing needs to be set 17:56:34 <planetmaker> Xotic750: can you make for the changelog a list of vehicles which got 32bpp? 17:56:57 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 443:209195e79383: Added detail and change of livery for Asia Star models (Xotic750) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/209195e79383 17:57:29 <Xotic750> it's the model.lst file :) 17:57:34 <Xotic750> in the scripts dir 17:57:34 <planetmaker> and... when / how do you get the white pixel warnings, Xotic750? 17:57:49 <planetmaker> can you paste the output of your build process? 17:57:49 <planetmaker> ok 17:57:49 <Xotic750> during compile using nmlc 17:58:04 <planetmaker> well, I don't 17:59:15 <Brot6> ogfx-trains: update from r433 to r442 done (115 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trains/nightlies/r442 17:59:24 <Xotic750> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/raw/1362/ 17:59:49 <Xotic750> maybe different nml version? 18:01:00 <planetmaker> maybe, possibly 18:01:21 <Xotic750> I was using 1884 I think 18:01:22 <planetmaker> r1884 (19e523f6f3c5) 18:01:28 <Xotic750> ok 18:01:29 <planetmaker> nmlc --version 18:02:07 <Xotic750> sorry, I was wrong 18:02:08 <Xotic750> r1882 (0f45cdcaba1f) 18:02:29 <planetmaker> PIL 1.1.7 and PLY 3.4 18:03:15 <planetmaker> in any case... the revision difference in NML cannot account for the white pixel difference 18:03:40 <planetmaker> and... interestingly. NOW I do get them, too... 18:05:32 <Brot6> firs: update from r2782 to r2799 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2799 18:05:39 <Xotic750> PIL: 1.1.7 18:05:40 <Xotic750> PLY: 3.3 18:05:54 <Xotic750> not that it matter though :) 18:06:09 <Xotic750> well, you have the updated Asia Star now 18:06:19 <Xotic750> I will try to do the same for TIM next week 18:06:37 <Xotic750> and then I will attempt to find the original sources for the steamers 18:06:48 <Xotic750> and see if they can be converted into the new format 18:06:58 <Xotic750> otherwise I will have to draw from scratch 18:09:30 <Xotic750> better finish my drink and go and meet the GF before she gets pissed with me :) 18:10:23 <planetmaker> haha :-) Enjoy 18:11:36 <Xotic750> you too :) 18:14:45 <Brot6> britrains: update from r38 to r40 done (10 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/britrains/nightlies/r40 18:16:24 <Xotic750> oh, something I just thought of before I go 18:17:11 <Xotic750> is it possible to stop double connecting TIM and Asia Star trains, as they have no buffer system on the fronts of the vehicles? 18:17:47 <Brot6> bandit: compile of r469 still failed (#3900) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r469 18:17:49 <planetmaker> It would be feasible. But... why should we disallow it? 18:17:58 <planetmaker> ICE trains do double connect 18:18:55 <Xotic750> just in real life they can't do it as they have no buffer/connection system on the front 18:19:04 <Xotic750> that's all 18:19:07 <planetmaker> ICE trains do in RL double connect 18:19:14 <planetmaker> as they do have buffers and connectors there 18:19:18 <andythenorth> planetmaker: can you add any detail to this ticket? 18:19:18 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3352 18:19:31 <Brot6> make-nml: compile of r0 still failed (#3730) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/make-nml/nightlies/ERROR/r0 18:19:32 <andythenorth> if there's more information, I can fix it next release 18:19:34 <Xotic750> but not on Eurostar and YUV 18:19:48 <Xotic750> on which they are based, not that I have found anyway 18:19:53 <planetmaker> that's why these trains are somewhat generic 18:19:59 <andythenorth> eurostar units connect 18:20:22 <planetmaker> after all, realistic players simply can choose to not connect them, too 18:20:29 <Brot6> metrotrackset: compile of r59 still failed (#3882) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/metrotrackset/nightlies/ERROR/r59 18:20:49 <Xotic750> sure, just I have not see any photos with buffers on the fronts 18:20:50 <Xotic750> http://www.phantasrail.co.uk/Feb05/DSC_9466t.JPG 18:20:56 <Xotic750> they are all without 18:21:11 <Xotic750> and so I have no buffers on the fronts either 18:21:20 <Xotic750> no big stress though 18:21:35 <andythenorth> the front cowl lifts, there is a centre coupler under there 18:21:45 <planetmaker> ^^ 18:22:23 <Xotic750> ok :) 18:22:45 <Xotic750> well, I have no graphics for that, if anyone complains :P 18:23:42 <andythenorth> you need one of these ;) 18:23:46 <andythenorth> Eurostar thunderbird http://www.rail.co.uk/images/2166/original/ex-eurostar-no-73130-by-phil-marsh.jpg 18:25:09 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #3943: Change template dimensions (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3943#change-10591 18:26:20 <Xotic750> lol, ok :) 18:27:25 <planetmaker> andythenorth: look at sprites/nml/industries/fruit_plantation:5079 and alike. That is basically computer-generated code 18:27:31 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #3943: Change template dimensions (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3943#change-10591 18:27:32 <planetmaker> And that definitely needs a review IMHO 18:27:48 <planetmaker> there's more of that there 18:28:18 <planetmaker> the industry itself seems clean to me on first sight 18:30:36 <andythenorth> so it's code review, not changes? 18:30:40 <planetmaker> also line 3804 and following might need a check whether it does the right thing [TM] 18:30:56 <planetmaker> probably yes. I don't exactly recall what I thought half a year ago :-P 18:31:06 <planetmaker> I guess I should have been clearer back then :-( 18:32:13 <planetmaker> andythenorth: I think you can still keep it open, though. It's not critical in any respect... 18:32:23 <planetmaker> But should be done before the fruit plantation is modified in any way 18:32:30 <planetmaker> or e.g. when trying to add fences 18:33:37 <andythenorth> oh, so that one doesn't seem to use many sprite layout templates? 18:33:44 <andythenorth> which is why it's about 6k lines :P 18:33:59 <planetmaker> it's 100% special or so 18:34:06 <andythenorth> k 18:34:12 <andythenorth> it should work similar to forest iirc 18:34:19 <planetmaker> *should* :-P 18:34:48 <andythenorth> I'll bounce it from 0.7.5 18:34:54 <andythenorth> I'm trying to get ticket count to 0 :P 18:35:21 <andythenorth> or at least <10 18:35:52 <planetmaker> you shouldn't do that with ticket count but with bug count ;-) 18:36:02 <planetmaker> (only their count really matters) 18:36:27 <andythenorth> bug count is currently 0 18:36:29 <andythenorth> afaik 18:36:58 <andythenorth> a lot of recent changes are to fix or reject bugs 18:37:10 <andythenorth> * ticket changes 18:40:52 <andythenorth> closed 50 tickets in April 18:41:13 <andythenorth> same amount as in last 9 months :P 19:02:12 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #3352: Callbacks of fruit plantation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3352#change-10592 19:03:58 <planetmaker> :-) 19:19:18 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 182:acc62d60883d: Codechange: suppress warning type 107, seems to be sp... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/acc62d60883d 19:19:18 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #3343 (Closed): Compile warning on sprite 15 /!!Warning (107): Label 00 has ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3343#change-10593 19:19:47 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature #2430 (Rejected): Cargo graphics for Sugar Beet (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2430#change-10594 19:24:15 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #1935 (Rejected): Reminder: adjust some vehicle weights if rv-w... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1935#change-10595 19:25:18 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3243 (Rejected): Check class masks for unwanted exclusions (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3243#change-10596 19:25:58 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3292 (Rejected): Enable auto-refit for crawlers (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3292#change-10597 19:27:21 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3291 (Rejected): Better faking of TE for articulated trucks (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3291#change-10598 19:27:21 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #3240 (Rejected): Convert to grfv8 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3240#change-10599 19:32:44 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #3312 (Rejected): Model life properties incorrect for mining trucks... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3312#change-10600 19:32:44 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #3312: Model life properties incorrect for mining trucks etc (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3312#change-10601 19:42:03 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:22:44 *** th_gergo has quit IRC 21:08:45 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:40:17 *** th_gergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:05:35 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 444:b4e238c83825: Fix (r403): White pixels due to faulty offsets of the 8... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/b4e238c83825 22:09:19 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:10:19 *** th_gergo has quit IRC