Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 2nd September 2012:
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07:20:55  <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 247:f6e0e9e4571e: Update: Changelog XplanetmakerX @
07:20:55  <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 248:fe2704c00b36: Added tag 0.8.0 for changeset f6e0e9e4571e XplanetmakerX @
07:24:07  <Brot6> swedishrails: update from 0.7.4 to 0.8.0 done -
07:48:43  <Terkhen> planetmaker: STR_PARAM_GUI_NONE and its kin have an incorrect indentation, do you want me to send you a fixed english.lng too?
07:53:49  <Terkhen> planetmaker: there is also a copy paste error at STR_PARAM_ERAIL_LABEL_DESC; it mentions "unelectrified" and "normal rails"
07:57:43  <Terkhen> I also wonder what "balast" means
08:01:48  <Rubidium> the stones/rocks between/beneath track
08:02:07  <Rubidium>
08:02:08  <Webster> Title: Track ballast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
08:02:13  <Rubidium> it's written incorrectly though
08:02:56  <Terkhen> oh, I see, thanks
08:04:55  <planetmaker> Terkhen: when you're at that, would be nice
08:05:05  <Terkhen> planetmaker: <--- english.lng with all mentioned errors fixed
08:05:16  <Terkhen> <--- spanish translation
08:08:01  <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 249:3343abbe5925: Update: Typos in English and update to Spanisch translati... XplanetmakerX @
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11:06:00  <Ammler> swedishrails failed, you know why?
11:07:36  <Rubidium> I don't see a failure notification
11:08:58  <planetmaker> it failed?
11:09:40  <planetmaker> not that I see, Ammler
11:09:55  <Rubidium> "Target 'bundle_src' is depreciated, it depends..." <- maybe that's considered an failure?
11:10:17  <planetmaker> then every build fails, I guess
11:10:21  <Ammler> [  258s] error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.wsvaYv (%build)
11:11:00  <Ammler> last ser nightly succeeded
11:11:36  <planetmaker> eh? The release also succeeded
11:12:02  <Ammler> well, it made the zip, but something failed
11:12:32  <planetmaker> something inconsequential really. As I uploaded that zip to bananas, downloaded with online content. and all is fine
11:12:52  <Ammler> that is why I ask, it isn't that obvious :-P
11:13:07  <Rubidium> but why does it publish when it fails?
11:13:15  <planetmaker> Ammler: I've really no idea which programme even issues that error?
11:14:34  <Ammler> Rubidium: we don't test for successful build
11:14:39  <planetmaker> and indeed... I expect build errors to produce an error log file
11:14:40  <Ammler> just for existing zip
11:15:35  <Ammler> if you wanna fail such build you need to test for the rpm, like opengfx
11:15:52  <Ammler> I am just curious
11:16:04  <planetmaker> ehm... I want to build the grf. Not an rpm here
11:16:49  <Ammler> I didn't say publish the rpm, just test for the rpm (=successful build()
11:17:20  <planetmaker> I fail to see where an rpm comes into play here...
11:17:26  <Ammler> all fine, I just wondered, you might have known the error
11:17:39  <Ammler> I will debug it myself
11:17:44  <planetmaker> no. And I have honestly not even a clue where to look for it
11:19:12  <Ammler> I suspect grf2html
11:19:29  <Rubidium> grfv8?
11:20:13  <frosch123> it should just exit then :p
11:21:06  <Rubidium> but exit(0) or exit(<>0)?
11:21:31  <frosch123> exit(0) i would think, it encounters an empty file
11:22:23  <Rubidium> maybe a subsequent mv/cp fails on there not being the expected files?
11:28:40  <Ammler> hmm, missing error file
11:29:31  <Rubidium> hahahah ;)
11:29:58  * Rubidium would almost have fallen of his chair ;)
11:31:16  <frosch123> first grf that results in no error? :)
11:32:10  <Ammler> well, the whole gimp crap
11:34:51  * Rubidium wonders how long it would take for zbase to be build really from scratch
11:35:10  <Rubidium> *built
11:37:29  <Rubidium> as in theory you only need blends + textures + scripts
11:39:17  <Alberth> if it's less than a week, it's an irrelevant problem imho :)
12:06:08  <Ammler> rm error.log > rm -f error.log should fix it
12:06:46  <Ammler> no :'-(
12:06:51  <Ammler> what the hell is it
12:12:45  <Alberth> -f is usually a bad idea, it just hides problems mostly
12:15:57  <Ammler> well, rm a non-existing file
12:16:16  <Alberth> if test -f x; then rm x; fi
12:16:32  <Ammler> yep rm -f does the same
12:16:42  <Ammler> but that is not the issue
12:16:50  <Alberth> and wrap that in a function :)
12:17:12  <Alberth> -f does much more imho
12:17:55  <Ammler> -f is bad if you wouldn't want to delete in every case :-)
12:18:04  <Ammler> I don't get why I delete at all
12:42:24  <Hirundo> How should house 'building classes' work for multitile houses?
12:43:36  <Hirundo> If you set the same class for all tiles, the house is counted 2 resp. 4 times in the relevant variables
12:45:32  <Hirundo> If you only set a class for the north tile, var 44 (# of houses with same class) doesn't work for the non-north tiles, requiring the use of stupid magic in either NML by the user
12:46:08  <Alberth> sounds like a newgrf spec bug to me :)
12:46:23  <Alberth> perhaps make a post in the newgrf dev forum?
12:46:25  <Hirundo> Furthermore this is no real way to set a class for the north tile only, as there is no default value that says 'no class'
12:48:00  <Alberth> btw I messed with making a cpp-like layer on top of nml. Biggest difference is a multi-line #define. It failed yesterday, but I learned why :)
12:48:50  <Hirundo> why? now i'm curious :-)
12:49:39  <Alberth> I was looking for start of comments in a text line, without caring about eg string literals :)
12:49:59  <Alberth> so I should find start of comments during tokienizing instead
12:51:10  <Hirundo> Doesn't CPP also operate on a stream of tokens, i.e. after lexing?
12:51:59  <Alberth> in macro expansion I think it does
12:52:19  <Alberth> but in #include and #if not?
12:52:28  <michi_cc> It does, which is why C code inside #if 0/#endif still has to be lexically valid.
12:54:57  <Alberth> #include and friends are special in the sense that they are recognized only at the start of a line, so you need to handle that in lexing
12:55:35  <Hirundo> Yexo: frosch123: Any opinion on the house 'building class' issue a I mentioned dozen lines above?
13:02:26  <frosch123> iirc the idea of class per tile was to give houses multiple classes
13:02:50  <frosch123> so, maybe it should be defined as a property array
13:03:31  <frosch123> do you need "with same class" stuff? or can you always revert to stuff "of specific class"?
13:04:37  <Hirundo>  you have either "with same class" or "with same class as house ID xx"
13:06:02  <frosch123> always use the latter then?
13:06:10  <frosch123> would solve the issue with multitile houses
13:06:27  <frosch123> and you can allow specifiying up to "number of tiles" classes per house
13:08:23  <Hirundo> Is there a use-case for multiple classes?
13:08:59  <frosch123> is there a use-case for classes at all? :p
13:09:37  <Hirundo> City halls in TaI?
13:10:02  <frosch123> i thought classes are about limiting the number of certain house types
13:10:14  <frosch123> or for scanning the distance of certain houses
13:10:33  <Hirundo> You can do that, indeed
13:10:53  <frosch123> but well, i guess multiple-classes is hardly used, since multitile houses are rare :)
13:11:24  <frosch123> but you could enforce the distance of stadiums > 20, and distance of stadiums of same type > 50
13:11:27  <frosch123> or whatever
13:11:44  <Hirundo> Last question is whether I can get away with assigning class FF to non-north tiles
13:11:54  <Hirundo> As there is no way to assign 'no class'
13:12:36  <Hirundo> Except for not setting the property at all, which would require an extra action0 and lots of boring code to write
13:13:29  <frosch123> well, assigning 0xFF would just mean that class 0xFF are unclassified houses
13:13:44  <frosch123> as long as you do not access them, it should be fine
14:11:01  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1973:004188b956f2: Codechange: Pass item-size to action0 and add som... XHirundoX @
14:11:01  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1974:1258a3fcff46: Codechange: Use value_function instead of custom_... XHirundoX @
14:11:01  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1975:7ad1881188fd: Codechange: More custom_function -> value_functio... XHirundoX @
14:11:03  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1976:dc8845cde62c: Codechange: Prepare properties with a list of car... XHirundoX @
14:11:07  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1977:16134ec49765: Feature: Allow setting action0 properties for mul... XHirundoX @
14:11:13  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1978:6e6c3ce36cec: Change: Don't always set the same property value ... XHirundoX @
14:16:20  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Code Review #4113: Have yard rail introduce HSL and Betuweroute XfoobarX @
14:16:23  <Hirundo> House Action0 is done-ish ^^
14:16:55  <planetmaker> :-)
14:20:22  <Hirundo> Too bad that *someone* has been writing a house grf, which makes it harder for me to change things
14:23:35  <planetmaker> hm, who has?
14:24:03  <planetmaker> the tars guys? Talk to them :-)
14:24:04  <Hirundo> I don't recall his name, but there was some discussion via forum pm
14:24:36  <Hirundo> In the end he sent me his WIP grf (only the compiled grf, though)
14:26:21  <Alberth> oh, don't mind backward compability with nml :)
14:27:04  <Alberth> it takes people not very long to update to new syntax, normally
14:27:48  <Yexo> nice work Hirundo :)
14:28:58  <planetmaker> only the compiled? hm...
14:29:15  <planetmaker> ask him for the source, he will. Yoshi iirc. He's the coder of swissfan
14:48:50  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1979:cf392de6a3ba: Change: Make house property accepted_cargos work ... XHirundoX @
14:56:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1980:ec9fe4fd40e5: Remove: Now obsolete house flags. Also check that... XHirundoX @
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15:34:39  <Ammler> empty grep does issue an error and so if error file is empty, it errors, did you know that?
15:37:37  <Ammler> postpend "|| :" fixed it
15:42:06  <Alberth> non-zero return code you mean? yep
15:43:34  <Alberth> use -q ?
15:45:14  <Alberth> hmm, wasn't there a 'ignore error' prefix in makefiles ?
15:46:55  <Ammler> the error isn't from Makefile, it is from the logfile cleanup
17:12:10  <Brot6> nml: update from r1969 to r1980 done -
17:17:14  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1981:f1d8b9c719a6: Feature: Validate that the size of the substitute... XHirundoX @
17:21:26  <Ammler> planetmaker: I would publish the regression grf files to subdir log (flag L)
17:21:52  <Brot6> nml: update from r1980 to r1981 done -
17:23:04  <planetmaker> which regression grf?
17:23:11  <Ammler> those ^
17:23:38  <Ammler>
17:25:48  <planetmaker> ah, the generated grf/nml for the regression test and only for NML. Yes... sounds good to have them published
17:26:00  <Brot6> swedishrails: update from r246 to r249 done -
17:28:48  <Ammler> planetmaker: that was not my question ;-)
17:31:25  <planetmaker> ok, what was your question?
17:31:51  <planetmaker> I understood you that you wanted to take some action there
17:32:40  <Ammler> [19:21] <Ammler> planetmaker: I would publish the regression grf files to subdir log (flag L)
17:33:28  <planetmaker> well, then, please
17:40:58  <Ammler> he, ok, I can do it for you :-P
17:47:28  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1982:aa91f8794206: Change/Fix (r1949): move the regressions grfs to ... XAmmlerX @
17:47:43  <Ammler> did you ever try to build nml on the server?
17:48:48  <planetmaker> not that I remember
17:52:51  <Ammler> there were a working copy
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19:00:23  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Code Review #4113: Have yard rail introduce HSL and Betuweroute XTransportmanX @
19:00:24  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Code Review #4114 (Reopened): Have 1500V introduce Yard rail XTransportmanX @
19:00:24  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Code Review #4113: Have yard rail introduce HSL and Betuweroute XTransportmanX @
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19:30:30  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4198 (Assigned): Track compatibility+introductions XTransportmanX @
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19:40:30  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Support #4081: IRM/VIRM IV depot sprite XTransportmanX @
20:15:32  <Brot6> feed NewGRFs had 11 updates, showing the latest 10
20:15:32  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 89:3f8c4e478e86: Revert r87: It is not possible to combine issues #4113 a... XTransportmanX @
20:15:32  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 90:a2629ec773ae: Feature: Multisystem trains introduce all corresponding ... XTransportmanX @
20:15:32  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 91:6faf37e50400: Feature: Betuweroute and HSL also introduce each other XTransportmanX @
20:15:36  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4198 (Closed): Track compatibility+introductions XTransportmanX @
20:15:39  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 92:c5ac9bc2ea14: Update: Small change to the new_engine text for Yard/Sta... XTransportmanX @
20:15:45  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 93:248c907d20de: Remove: Early introduction parameter and forced introduc... XTransportmanX @
20:15:49  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 94:9fa8174a81fb: Feature: Compatibility parameter now also makes correspo... XTransportmanX @
20:15:53  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Code Review #4114 (Closed): Have 1500V introduce Yard rail XTransportmanX @
20:15:56  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Code Review #4113 (Closed): Have yard rail introduce HSL and Betuweroute XTransportmanX @
20:15:59  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Bug #4198 (Closed): Track compatibility+introductions XTransportmanX @
20:19:52  <Brot6> Dutch Track Set - Revision 95:685602df13e4: Fix r94: Update minimal compatible version to r94, it is... XTransportmanX @
20:28:19  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #4199 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @
20:29:27  <Brot6> bandit: rebuild of r553 done (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 8192) (DiffDiffsize: 7) -
20:30:46  <Rubidium> Ammler: you got a recursive symbolic link somewhere (see
20:31:26  <Rubidium> interestingly this is also seen as a rpm build error
20:31:57  <Rubidium> but *why* does it trigger 8 days after the fact?
20:32:37  <Ammler> this might be a cleanup issue
20:32:48  <Rubidium> not removing a symlink?
20:33:03  <Ammler> yes
20:33:24  <Ammler> I don't cleanup the buildenv anymore
20:33:59  <Ammler> hmm, I guess, I also reported this bug already
20:34:47  <Brot6> friss: rebuild of r43 done (Diffsize: 2161) (DiffDiffsize: 7) -
20:35:03  <Rubidium> .devzone/build/grf.spec:ln -s %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/openttd/data/opengfx-%{version} $HOME/.openttd/data/opengfx
20:35:08  <Rubidium> that's the problem
20:35:25  <Brot6> manindu: rebuild of r7 done (Diffsize: 3) (DiffDiffsize: 6) -
20:36:46  <Ammler> Rubidium: and what is wrong with it?
20:37:22  <Ammler> why does it cause a recursion?
20:37:40  <Rubidium> run ln -s /<directory> /tmp/name once, then run it again. The second time it does something different
20:38:08  <Rubidium> specifically it will create /tmp/name/<last subpath of directory>
20:39:30  <Rubidium> and it is called two times since you're not cleaning everything anymore
20:39:46  <Rubidium> it'd also trigger when building it twice
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20:41:24  <Ammler> ln -sf then
20:43:54  <Ammler> I don't see a difference, if I run ln -s twice
20:44:15  <Rubidium> really?
20:44:26  <Rubidium> what did you do?
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20:44:52  <Ammler> hmm, maybe absoluete
20:44:59  <Brot6> dutchroadfurniture: rebuild of r145 done (Diffsize: 203966) (DiffDiffsize: 7) -
20:45:23  <Brot6> spanishtowns: rebuild of r10 done (Diffsize: 9) (DiffDiffsize: 8) -
20:45:59  <Rubidium> the 'target' needs to be a path that does not exist yet
20:46:50  <Rubidium> ln -s ~ /tmp/foes; ln -s ~ /tmp/foes will create a symlink in ~ (named like your username)
20:52:20  <Brot6> dutchtracks: update from r88 to r95 done -
20:53:11  <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: rebuild of r111 done (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 1321) (DiffDiffsize: 10) -
20:54:06  <Brot6> german-townnames: rebuild of r35 done (Diffsize: 5043) (DiffDiffsize: 7) -
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20:56:58  <Ammler> marcel@xps:~> ln -s /usr/share/openttd/baseset/opengfx-0.4.4 /tmp/myopengfx
20:57:00  <Ammler> ln: failed to create symbolic link `/tmp/myopengfx/opengfx-0.4.4': Permission denied
20:57:39  <Brot6> airportsplus: rebuild of r171 done (Diffsize: 6971) (DiffDiffsize: 10) -
20:57:41  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-trains (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 12), zbuild, ogfx-industries (Diffsize: 665), firs (12 warnings) (Diffsize: 469), cets (195 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), newgrf_makefile (Diffsize: 1), dutchtrains (Diffsize: 12), swisstowns (Diffsize: 51), make-nml (Diffsize: 1), britrains (7 warnings) (Diffsize: 67279), metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), frenchtowns,
20:57:42  <Brot6> ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 1), fish (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), uselesstracks (Diffsize: 1), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 72)
20:58:26  <Ammler> hmm
20:58:55  <Ammler> anyway, also if it would create another one, I don't get why it become recursive
20:59:25  <frosch123> what was the cronjob time to create new repos? :)
20:59:43  <Ammler> 7/*
21:00:11  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/siliconvalley registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/siliconvalley
21:00:11  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/siliconvalley created
21:00:16  <frosch123> :)
21:06:37  <frosch123> can someone please move "Silicon Valley" into a subproject fo "Game Scripts"
21:07:02  <frosch123> script seems to work so far
21:07:22  <frosch123> maybe i can persuade someone tomorrow for a real test game
21:07:39  <frosch123> i think the type of goal fits more the normal coop style :)
21:09:02  <Brot6> Silicon Valley - Revision 0:d14c6939ee0d: Initial version XfroschX @
21:09:02  <Brot6> Silicon Valley - Revision 1:5610651e5417: Added tag v1 for changeset d14c6939ee0d XfroschX @
21:09:02  <Brot6> Silicon Valley - Silicon-Valley-v1.tar XfroschX @
21:09:31  <Ammler> frosch123: done
21:09:50  <frosch123> thanks :)
21:12:31  <frosch123> night
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22:28:59  <Beardie> good lol
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23:04:06  <Brot6> feed NewGRFs had 11 updates, showing the latest 10
23:04:06  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 867:545354684f43: A319 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:06  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 868:7d11281e3b78: A320-200 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:06  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 869:1b470cbe6b1f: A321 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:07  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 870:210dd1c79b13: A330-200 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:10  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 871:a7d2918a413d: A330-300 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:13  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 872:6e2bfb848002: A340-300 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:16  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 873:cfbe88e3675e: A340-600 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:21  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 874:0d8350168d12: A380-800 fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:24  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 875:b821a026598c: A380-800F nearly fully coded XFrankX @
23:04:36  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 876:44fadbe0b51e: A380-900 fully coded ready for paints XFrankX @
23:07:24  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r864 to r876 done -
23:34:21  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 877:16e2ff136d8d: Concorde fully coded XFrankX @
23:34:21  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 878:718325548e4f: xx.nfo changes XFrankX @
23:36:23  <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r876 to r878 done -

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