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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 30th September 2012:
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00:15:11  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 160:dcee94b589f3: Add: Sweet shop, cola well and battery farm. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/dcee94b589f3
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06:48:35  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #4059: Gen 1 / 3 Large Coasters don't show hold / open hatches when loading XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4059#change-11735
06:49:02  <Brot6> fish: compile of FISH_2_alpha_2 still failed (#4231) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/releases/ERROR/FISH_2_alpha_2
06:49:20  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 923:114ed75cd1c3: Added tag FISH_2_alpha_2 for changeset 77899aad86cd XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/114ed75cd1c3
06:49:20  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 924:4437333d0206: Change: show hold / partial hatch sprites for Quessant Freight (#4... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/4437333d0206
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06:54:18  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 925:3a6360419510: Codechange: add a layer for hold sprites to gen 3 coaster file XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/3a6360419510
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07:53:04  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 926:3d075cdf08f0: Change: holds and hatch sprites for Shannon Freighter (closes #405... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/3d075cdf08f0
07:53:04  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #4059 (Closed): Gen 1 / 3 Large Coasters don't show hold / open hatches when loading XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4059#change-11736
08:31:05  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #4305 (New): Steam version of large trader XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4305
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09:58:27  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 161:31deb666dd34: Fix: naming of 4645-4647 sprites XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/31deb666dd34
10:00:39  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 162:9353f7b44883: Fix: naming of the 4657-4659 sprites XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/9353f7b44883
10:02:36  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 163:59a811fd5306: Fix: one subset of sprites was saved in the wrong folder XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/59a811fd5306
10:08:28  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 167:7862bb158c17: Add: toyland buildings XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/7862bb158c17
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10:20:36  <Alberth> hi andy
10:26:06  <planetmaker> Rubi on a spree again :-)
10:52:33  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3952: Additional steam engines XVoyager1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3952#change-11740
10:53:30  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2 - Feature #3952: Additional steam engines XVoyager1X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3952#change-11752
11:55:50  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 927:fe7e893f8868: Codechange: work in progress on large puffer XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/fe7e893f8868
12:45:21  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #4305 (Closed): Steam version of large trader XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4305
12:45:21  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 928:07136ae321cb: Feature: Finisterre Freighter (closes #4305) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/07136ae321cb
12:45:21  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #4305 (Closed): Steam version of large trader XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4305#change-11753
13:15:16  <planetmaker> meh... I directed the guy from the TARS houses to tt-forums. He started a thread about the question he sent me - as I asked him. And he sends all follow-up questions to me as private message...
13:15:21  <planetmaker> hate that
13:23:37  <planetmaker> I shall not reply (yet). It would be unfriendly
13:24:18  <planetmaker> "Wir haben einen Fehler im Kommunikationsprotokoll. Ich habe Dich nicht gebeten, die Frage im Forum zu stellen, damit wir die ganze Diskussion weiter im Privaten f├╝hren..." but I won't send it, I guess
13:27:33  <Alberth> "Warom stellst du die weitere vragen nicht also aus dem Forum?"
13:29:44  <planetmaker> yes...
13:31:07  <Alberth> Leider weiss ich das antwort auf deinem fragen nicht, du konte es probieren aus der forum :)
13:32:00  <Ammler> hehe, at least you don't use google to translate :-P
13:32:48  <Alberth> Reading German is a lot easier than writing it :)
13:33:00  <planetmaker> I really don't know the answers, indeed
13:33:11  <planetmaker> it basically breaks down to debug his newgrf in detail
13:33:25  <planetmaker> and really understand what sprite he orders to be drawn when and where
13:33:47  <Alberth> you could add something in that direction to the message
13:34:21  <planetmaker> too late. He read it already (what alberth suggested)
13:34:33  <planetmaker> answer is "then I'll have to publish the code". oh well
13:35:03  <Alberth> lol :)
13:35:33  <Alberth> I like that people think code can be kept secret :)
13:36:44  <planetmaker> let's say, my motivation to help in closed-source cases this elaborately is about as high as bathing in horse manure ;-)
13:37:17  <Alberth> At a game forum, you sometimes have these people that have a great idea that will make a lot of money, they just need help to get going. Of course they cannot tell you even the subject, as someone might publish before they do :)
13:38:20  <Alberth> "I need help but I cannot tell you anything"  :D
13:39:25  <planetmaker> yeah
13:41:47  <planetmaker> but that reply especially amazed me... the set is going to be GPL-licensed... so... what point is there?
13:42:43  <Alberth> maybe he has no idea about license requirements for GPL ? :)
14:01:01  <Ammler> well, in that case, send him your paypal account, isn't that how opensource people earn monety?
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14:22:11  <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1048421#p1048421 <-- Alberth, Ammler ;-)
14:22:12  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Houses in NML (at www.tt-forums.net)
14:23:16  <planetmaker> indeed I probably should have sent my hourly rates along for private counsel ;-)
14:34:32  <Ammler> why can't those guys who don't use grfv8 fetures just use nmlc 0.2?
14:35:09  <Ammler> isn't that the whole point you still support that branch?
14:35:55  <planetmaker> I don't think they do. I mentioned earlier in that thread that only grf v8 / NML 0.3 will help here
14:38:11  <Ammler> wouldn't trying with nmlc0.2 tell them so?
14:38:58  <Ammler> or are there missing features in 0.2 which still would make grfv7?
14:39:20  <Ammler> (which are in nml default
14:50:15  <planetmaker> Ammler, they couldn't make a house grf with NML 0.2
14:50:22  <planetmaker> houses are NML 0.3+ only
14:50:28  <planetmaker> and houses won't be backported really
14:57:17  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 929:1538f34edbf1: Fix: missing graphics file XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/1538f34edbf1
14:57:17  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 930:9be737090bd9: Feature: set purchase menu order XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/9be737090bd9
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15:56:54  <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Bug #4307 (New): IRS uses default railway graphics XGeorgeX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4307
16:04:54  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 164:d19128f15581: Add: Plastic fountain, toy shop and toy factory. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/d19128f15581
16:04:54  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 165:bffcf332cfb0: Add: Fizzy drink factory (may have some transparency issues!). XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/bffcf332cfb0
16:04:54  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 166:e7dcd08d99e4: Merge XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/e7dcd08d99e4
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17:18:43  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 167:2ac397ec5021: Add: Toyland trees. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/2ac397ec5021
17:20:26  <Brot6> fish: [nightlies] openSUSE API (osc) not reachable, sleep an hour and try again...
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18:21:44  <Brot6> fish: update from r911 to r930 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r930
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19:56:17  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 168:1db43e68428b: Add: toyland trees XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/1db43e68428b
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20:31:56  <Rubidium> milestone!
20:32:08  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 169:dd80553f8642: Add: some mask sprites XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/dd80553f8642
20:32:08  <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 55:fa3c2f065725: Update: mostly toyland stuff. Now over 75% of the non-GUI sprites... XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/fa3c2f065725
20:32:39  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 170:faccd47bc059: Fix: compilation failed due wrong template usage XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/faccd47bc059
20:32:39  <Brot6> zBaseBuild - Revision 171:e8ba329419db: Add: aircraft XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbasebuild/repository/revisions/e8ba329419db
21:16:55  <Brot6> zbuild: update from r54 to r55 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/push/r55
21:18:30  <Ammler> zbuild doesn't use gimp, does it?
21:18:40  <Ammler> it could use multipe threads
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21:20:34  <Ammler> needs it for the opengfx parts
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22:50:19  <planetmaker> we could change that, Ammler
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22:58:27  <Brot6> zBase - Revision 168:979daa1c91d0: Add: Temperate diesel trains. XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/979daa1c91d0

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