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XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/daf2a4a2e8c1 06:53:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3069:4bce83ad0096: Codechange: clay pit uses stub of python... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4bce83ad0096 06:54:20 <Brot6> firs: update from r3067 to r3069 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3069 07:04:46 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3070:bc598aacb21d: Codechange: forest uses stub of python t... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/bc598aacb21d 07:05:33 <Brot6> firs: update from r3069 to r3070 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3070 07:15:28 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3071:f253336ab6c5: Codechange: use stub of python templatin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f253336ab6c5 07:16:17 <Brot6> firs: update from r3070 to r3071 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3071 07:32:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3072:369eb1cf8342: Codechange: use stub of python templatin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/369eb1cf8342 07:32:54 <Brot6> firs: update from r3071 to r3072 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3072 07:36:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3073:8e3218c0504d: Codechange: rename some pngs for consist... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8e3218c0504d 07:37:04 <Brot6> firs: update from r3072 to r3073 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3073 08:23:59 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4452 (Closed): another palette issue XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4452 08:23:59 <Brot6> zBase - Revision 296:c6fc159ebb7e: Fix: Palette of toyland_engine 0019 (Bug #4452). XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbase/repository/revisions/c6fc159ebb7e 08:23:59 <Brot6> zBase - Bug #4452 (Closed): another palette issue XzephyrisX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4452#change-12140 08:24:22 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:46:38 <andythenorth> quiet no? 08:51:28 *** zephyris has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:59:34 <Rubidium> good morning zephyris 08:59:51 <andythenorth> bonjour zephyris 09:08:09 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1788 (Rejected): Clay Pit needs snow graphics XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1788#change-12142 09:13:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:20:58 <Ammler> Rubidium: hehe, our test to make new grf without you and alberth failed :-) 09:21:51 <Ammler> anyway, a rebuild hook to build when there are zbase updates only might be useful 09:21:55 <Rubidium> well, that happens when sprites are 'missing' or became broken 09:22:25 <Rubidium> Ammler: generally I spot those, do a test build and push zbuild 09:22:37 <Ammler> do you also fix those? 09:22:48 <Rubidium> depends on the issue 09:22:50 <Ammler> (convert the image) 09:23:03 <Rubidium> sometimes... if I know how to do it 09:23:26 <Rubidium> but with the amount of scripts for 8bpp sprites I'm kinda lost what's exactly needed 09:23:39 <Ammler> :-) 09:23:47 <Rubidium> but rerendering a .blend when sprites are missing (or in the wrong folder) is relatively easy 09:25:01 <Rubidium> I even fixed the paths in some .blend files 09:25:26 <Ammler> well, if zbase push would trigger a rebuild, he could fix such things without you 09:26:16 <Rubidium> you don't need that for him to test stuff himself 09:26:31 <Ammler> he can't build himself 09:26:38 <Rubidium> the problem with that approach is each time you start from 0, thus compile times are enormous 09:27:27 <Rubidium> now it compiles (for me that is) 09:28:10 <Ammler> oh, btw. the issue he had with push was a bad file (.orig) 09:28:43 <Ammler> and windows tortoise failed to make that somhow verbose 09:29:13 <Ammler> Rubidium: it compiled for you without changes? 09:29:23 <Brot6> zBuild - Revision 73:2063cf2eff07: -Fix: some sprite issues XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/zbuild/repository/revisions/2063cf2eff07 09:29:26 <Rubidium> yep 09:29:30 <Ammler> he? 09:30:02 <Ammler> maybe I forgot to update zbase here 09:30:49 <Rubidium> but... nml doesn't work on Windows? 09:31:23 <Ammler> it does, but nobody is able to get make&friends working 09:31:52 <Rubidium> oh... blegh 09:32:29 <Ammler> at least nobody shared it with us, if he succeeded 09:32:46 <Ammler> everyone rather setup a vm 09:36:56 <Brot6> Script Communication Protocol - Revision 39:f41f4eed03a5: - Pushing changes with debug part in it as... XkrinnX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/scriptlib-scp/repository/revisions/f41f4eed03a5 09:38:19 <Rubidium> Ammler: I wonder whether a zbuild 'update' upon zbase push is the right way to test whether the sprites still work. It takes almost an hour to get a result from that, instead of a few minutes 09:40:06 <Brot6> Polish PKP Set 2.0 - Bug #4454 (New): EN76 (22WE), EN57 and EN71 XniemiecX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4454 09:41:31 <Ammler> I wonder if it would be worth to keep buildenvironment for some projects 09:42:05 <Ammler> Rubidium: how long does a rebuild take for you? 09:44:17 <Ammler> also if we don't clean the buildenv, $HOME would be kept, we could "backup" zbuild there during other builds :-) 09:47:31 <Ammler> oh, zeph submitted the file, so I wasn't doing something wrong 09:48:31 *** zephyris has quit IRC 09:49:47 <Rubidium> Ammler: depends on the amount of sprites that changed 09:50:13 <Rubidium> but basically from about 10 seconds upward 09:51:16 <Rubidium> this time it took quite long since the modification time of the images was changed 09:51:53 <Ammler> basically, we would cp -rf %{_builddir}/* $HOME/%{name} 09:51:59 <Ammler> then cd ... and build there 09:52:43 <Ammler> Rubidium: there is touch * in fetch_repos 09:52:45 <Ammler> dunno why 09:53:27 <Rubidium> for opengfx... to not rebuild with xcf2png and such? 09:53:56 <Ammler> ah ok 09:54:32 <Ammler> could also disable GIMP 09:54:42 <Ammler> would be more obvious :-) 09:55:39 <planetmaker> btw, Ammler, with gimp 2.8 the gimp errors seem gone 09:55:50 <Ammler> you mean parallel build? 09:56:05 <planetmaker> yup 09:56:23 <Ammler> gimp-2.6.11-28.26.1.i586 09:56:26 <planetmaker> -j6 for zbase/opengfx can be very handy 09:56:47 <planetmaker> especially as the gimp generation could use just -j 09:57:07 <planetmaker> or possibly it's my completely different setup; hard to test :-) 09:57:18 <Rubidium> make -j2 is the best for zbase 09:57:31 <Ammler> this is strange, 12.2 has gimp 2.8 10:03:33 <planetmaker> why -j2? It also builds 6 grfs 10:03:50 <Rubidium> base takes longer than all the others combined 10:04:18 <Rubidium> so better keep the wait time for the disk low, so base compiles fastest 10:04:46 <planetmaker> hm, gotta try that 10:05:00 <Rubidium> (based on a full compile) 10:08:18 <Ammler> the nml job can't be threaded? :-) 10:08:41 <andythenorth> python not so good with threading :) 10:15:49 <Rubidium> it definitely can be threaded 10:16:01 <Rubidium> whether it's nice and efficient is something else 10:16:40 <Rubidium> though reading/compressing the images seems to be quite distinct tasks 10:17:06 <andythenorth> python multi-processing library is pretty good btw 10:17:26 <andythenorth> BANDIT uses it for generating images 10:17:35 <andythenorth> lots of PIL jobs 10:19:58 <Brot6> zbuild: update from r70 to r73 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/push/r73 10:22:35 <Brot6> zBuild - Bug #4448 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4448 10:22:35 <Brot6> zBuild - Bug #4448 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XRubidiumX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4448#change-12144 10:40:19 <Ammler> also we will have zbase builds without changes of zbasebuild -> no version change 10:40:43 <Ammler> could be a bit confusing 10:59:51 <Ammler> hmm, I guess, I need to donwgrade nml on suse, I can't even make simple tests as opengfx is the only package thre :-) 11:00:49 <Ammler> and you guys didn't sound like you will fix it soon :-P 11:10:42 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 939:2a341b48d9b3: Feature: graphics for Huanhai tanker (DanMacK) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/2a341b48d9b3 11:13:55 <andythenorth> graphics for tanker \o/ 11:14:00 <andythenorth> 1600t capacity :) 12:16:22 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 940:d88395308f42: Feature: graphics for Roland tanker (DanMacK) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/d88395308f42 12:17:36 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 941:96096bc655f2: Feature: reshuffle some tanker capacities for game balance XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/96096bc655f2 12:53:57 <Brot6> FISH - Revision 942:5abaf404be54: Change: straight bows for gen 1 large coasters (DanMacK) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/5abaf404be54 12:56:12 <andythenorth> ho 12:56:15 <andythenorth> FISH 1k soon 13:05:49 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3074:12ad4257dd7d: Codechange: use stub of python templatin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/12ad4257dd7d 13:07:10 <Brot6> firs: update from r3073 to r3074 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3074 13:08:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3075:bc6bdace2330: Codechange: use stub of python templatin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/bc6bdace2330 13:09:37 <Brot6> firs: update from r3074 to r3075 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3075 13:13:00 <andythenorth> hmm 13:13:05 <andythenorth> FISH is supposed to build on push 13:13:09 <andythenorth> wonder why it doesn' 13:13:10 <andythenorth> t 13:49:21 <Ammler> hmm, there might still be a bug in there, because push is bound on release and that failed 13:49:32 <Brot6> fish: update from to r942 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/push/r942 13:49:36 <Ammler> triggered by hand, next time, it should work 13:50:35 <Ammler> so we can safely disable grf2html for nml, right? 13:55:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:55:23 <frosch123> for nml 0.3 13:56:37 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Revision 170:6077e6ac731f: [Compiler] Change: remove grf2html from default nml... XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/6077e6ac731f 13:56:37 <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Revision 171:12fc86655e7a: [Compiler] Feature: link user db for error ticket t... XAmmlerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/12fc86655e7a 13:56:49 <Ammler> opengfx is the only nml 0.2 project and has it's own build spec anyway 15:01:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:28:30 <Brot6> FISH - paddle_steamer_large.png XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3334/paddle_steamer_large.png 15:31:06 <planetmaker> andythenorth, snow awareness of forests is broken in FIRS. Green trees abov snow line 15:31:20 <planetmaker> +e 15:32:43 <andythenorth> planetmaker: thanks 15:57:39 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 17:18:11 <Brot6> fish: update from r938 to r942 done (1 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r942 18:12:58 <Brot6> zbuild: update from r70 to r73 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/zbuild/nightlies/r73 18:15:21 <Brot6> firs: update from r3063 to r3075 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r3075 18:22:51 <andythenorth> planetmaker: the forest snow is a discrepancy between base sets :) 18:23:07 <andythenorth> we used 'partial snow' for ground, but opengfx lacks that tile 18:23:27 <andythenorth> and one of the trees in ttd graphics looks snowy, but opengfx equivalent doesn't 18:24:52 <planetmaker> andythenorth, but... then something changed... I know that I tested for trees thoroughly 18:25:01 <planetmaker> or I remember something wrongly :-) 18:25:02 <andythenorth> I'll look in v0.7.5 too 18:25:05 <andythenorth> hang on 18:25:12 <andythenorth> incidentally I like zbase :) 18:25:18 <andythenorth> tested there too :P 18:25:26 <planetmaker> that's how I noticed first ;-) 18:25:32 <andythenorth> I wish Zeph would light not from the north though :P 18:25:39 <planetmaker> ^^ 18:25:53 <andythenorth> I hate that the rear parts of buildings are more lit than the face 18:25:59 <andythenorth> it makes everything murky to my eyes 18:26:04 <andythenorth> like england, in november 18:26:38 <planetmaker> :-) 18:26:57 <andythenorth> I wonder if the blender setup could be re-rigged 18:27:00 <andythenorth> hmm 18:27:12 <andythenorth> variable lighting direction according to month of year? :P 18:28:08 <planetmaker> lighting setup is rather easy to change from the little I gathered from my short musings with blender 18:28:25 <andythenorth> lighting from the front is just more pleasing 18:28:42 <andythenorth> forest issue is present in 0.7.5 btwe 18:28:55 <planetmaker> hm.... maybe I imagined some stuff only 18:29:06 <planetmaker> or it was another industry... or another thing... maybe ogfx+landscape 18:29:29 <andythenorth> 0.6.4 has 100% snow on the trees 18:29:33 <andythenorth> and the ground 18:29:34 <planetmaker> ach 18:29:46 <andythenorth> but I think that industry was an automated conversion? 18:30:02 <planetmaker> maybe 18:30:08 <andythenorth> iirc, we changed the ground tile deliberately, because you raised a ticket showing how forests disappear in snow 18:30:17 <andythenorth> but we didn't change the trees afaik 18:30:48 <andythenorth> maybe we did 18:30:52 <andythenorth> maybe I did it :O 18:32:23 <andythenorth> planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4456 18:33:09 <planetmaker> ground tile? 18:33:13 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4456 (New): Forests only partially snowy XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4456 18:33:22 <planetmaker> the ground tile is not the issue, is it? But the tree sprite 18:33:45 <andythenorth> I've updated ticket 18:33:56 <andythenorth> tree sprite is much worse with opengfx 18:33:59 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4456 (New): Forests only partially snowy XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4456 18:34:05 <andythenorth> and opengfx lacks that partial snow tile afaict 18:34:50 <andythenorth> seems easy to fix 18:34:59 <andythenorth> I won't get to it right now though 18:36:07 <planetmaker> hm... mind if I toy with it? 18:36:47 <andythenorth> you're welcome to 18:38:13 <planetmaker> bah. that's totally still auto-converted code. sucks :-) 18:42:49 <andythenorth> yup 18:42:55 <andythenorth> I considered python-ising it 18:43:06 <andythenorth> but I don't have enough brain right now 18:58:02 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3076:e545dd16b294: Codechange: use stub of python templatin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e545dd16b294 18:58:11 <Brot6> firs: update from r3075 to r3076 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3076 19:06:47 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3077:7392f71f7a12: Codechange: use python templating stub f... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7392f71f7a12 19:07:23 <Brot6> firs: update from r3076 to r3077 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3077 19:18:14 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3078:e0feaa87f87a: Codechange: use python templating stub f... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e0feaa87f87a 19:19:15 <Brot6> firs: update from r3077 to r3078 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3078 19:22:32 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3079:eb7dcb6b7b56: Codechange: use stub of python templatin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/eb7dcb6b7b56 19:23:35 <Brot6> firs: update from r3078 to r3079 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3079 19:29:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3080:052aa4f08e7b: Codechange: use python templating stub f... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/052aa4f08e7b 19:30:15 <Brot6> firs: update from r3079 to r3080 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3080 19:58:54 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3081:b86ef6d3d3b0: Codechange: use stub of python templatin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b86ef6d3d3b0 19:59:19 <Brot6> firs: update from r3080 to r3081 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3081 20:26:05 <planetmaker> andythenorth, you care, if the trees change? 20:26:11 <planetmaker> which the forest uses? 20:26:26 <planetmaker> for all climates to a random other one I picked respectively? 20:28:43 <planetmaker> he... you... changed forest.pnml or deleted it? 20:31:00 <planetmaker> a bah.... all patching now in vain *ggrrr* 20:31:41 <andythenorth> planetmaker: you didn't pull before patching? :( 20:32:13 <andythenorth> the only thing that I changed in forest.pypnml is the id and the filename 20:32:20 <planetmaker> not exactly. But turns out that mercurial is intelligent enough to merge my changes correctly 20:32:26 <andythenorth> ho :o 20:32:34 <planetmaker> I didn't have forest converted to python yet 20:32:44 <andythenorth> if there's any problem, just paste your pnml into the pypnml file 20:32:49 <andythenorth> it will all keep working 20:33:51 <planetmaker> yes... all works... without changing a single letter. I'm surprised 20:33:59 <andythenorth> I'm not :) 20:34:07 <planetmaker> not? 20:34:15 <planetmaker> I edited forest.pnml 20:34:22 <planetmaker> and I did not copy or paste anything 20:34:25 <planetmaker> nor rename 20:34:36 <planetmaker> my patch was just migrated correctly to forest.pypnml 20:34:40 <andythenorth> omg :) 20:34:42 <planetmaker> and that does surprise me :-) 20:34:44 <andythenorth> I am surprised 20:35:12 <andythenorth> it was hg mv-ed, maybe hg has some unique identifier for files? :o 20:35:19 <planetmaker> yes, it does 20:35:27 <planetmaker> it knows where it comes from 20:35:42 <andythenorth> how clever :) 20:35:47 <planetmaker> a clear advantage of hg cp or hg mv over manually adding it :-) 20:36:19 <andythenorth> in answer to first question, no I don't mind if trees change 20:36:24 <andythenorth> unless I hate the ones you pick ;) 20:36:38 <planetmaker> looks alright with ttd/opengfx/zbase. 20:36:46 <andythenorth> the ones in 0.6.4 looked fine 20:36:48 <planetmaker> I use leaf trees (not conifers) now 20:36:55 <planetmaker> I didn't look there. 20:36:56 <andythenorth> commit ? 20:37:07 <andythenorth> I'll pull + look :) 20:37:57 <planetmaker> there 20:38:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3082:7ce48bb386e0: Codechange: Convert the forest's tree ti... XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7ce48bb386e0 20:38:52 <Brot6> firs: update from r3081 to r3082 done (3 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3082 20:40:35 <andythenorth> oh yeah 20:40:39 <andythenorth> that looks nice in ttd graphics 20:43:34 <andythenorth> done 20:43:39 <andythenorth> planetmaker: close the ticket? 20:44:31 <planetmaker> oh, damn, I should have mentioned it in the commit message. Yes, will do 20:45:20 <planetmaker> done. Thx for reminder 20:45:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4456 (Closed): Forests only partially snowy XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4456 20:45:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4456 (Closed): Forests only partially snowy XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4456#change-12148 20:57:08 <andythenorth> nother one done 21:01:23 <andythenorth> time for 'le sleep' 21:01:25 <andythenorth> good night 21:01:33 <andythenorth> clocks change in uk 21:01:40 <andythenorth> 1 less hour sleep tomorrow :P 21:01:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:02:37 <planetmaker> less? 21:07:19 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:20:35 <Rubidium> planetmaker: yes, it's quite logical 21:21:33 <planetmaker> I'll sleep one hour more 21:21:50 <Rubidium> tonight he has one hour more than tomorrow night, so tomorrow he has one hour less than he has today 21:22:25 <Rubidium> or... 21:22:51 <Rubidium> you go to bed at 10 o'clock and normally get out at 8 o'clock, but tomorrow he'll get out at 7 o'clock