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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 3rd November 2012:
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07:58:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3134:87dec320c5a6: Codechange: we're not setting conflictin... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/87dec320c5a6
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09:47:29  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3138:240d10ef4c9e: Codechange: add a couple of comments XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/240d10ef4c9e
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10:00:41  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4479 (New): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4479
10:04:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3140:339fade6bd8f: Codechange: convert biorefiney to render... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/339fade6bd8f
10:05:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4479 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XcompilerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4479
10:05:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #4479 (Closed): DevZone compile failed XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4479#change-12227
10:05:59  <Brot6> firs: update from r3138 to r3140 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3140
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15:26:45  <andythenorth> Yexo: I'm a bit stuck on a good design for templating cargos for economies
15:26:55  <andythenorth> should be easy, but I can't see a nice simple solution
15:27:35  <Yexo> you mean to change the cargoes itself or change the cargo acceptance / production of industries depending on the economy?
15:28:17  <andythenorth> cargos themselves
15:28:27  <andythenorth> they are enabled or disabled
15:28:34  <andythenorth> and they may change payment rate / demand curves
15:29:06  <andythenorth> I could do it 'properly' and introduce a class for cargos
15:29:17  <andythenorth> but it looks like it could be ducktaped somehow
15:29:36  <andythenorth> don't want to pointlessly over-engineer it :)
15:30:59  <Yexo> why not just add some if-statements to cargo_props.pnml?
15:33:03  <andythenorth> sounds about right
15:34:14  <andythenorth> ok I see a way
15:34:15  <andythenorth> ta
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18:07:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3145:e81a18ee06ea: Codechange: python templating for cargo ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e81a18ee06ea
18:09:14  <Brot6> firs: update from r3144 to r3145 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3145
18:16:27  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3146:d0d2fedc0119: Codechange: make economies dicts for ext... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d0d2fedc0119
18:18:21  <Brot6> firs: update from r3145 to r3146 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3146
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19:12:42  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #465: Guano Mine XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/465#change-12229
19:17:26  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4481 (New): New Coal Mine Sprites XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4481
19:19:52  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4483 (New): New Iron Ore Mine Graphics XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4483
19:21:21  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4485 (New): New Hotel Graphics XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4485
19:22:51  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4487 (New): New Oil Rig Graphics XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4487
19:24:05  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4489 (New): New Oil Refinery Graphics XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4489
19:24:35  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4491 (New): New Graphics for Oil Wells XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4491
19:25:26  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4493 (New): New Graphics for Paper Mill XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4493
19:29:57  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4495 (New): New Graphics for Sawmill XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4495
19:36:22  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4497 (New): New Graphics for Steel Mill XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4497
19:40:05  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4499 (New): Earlier graphics for Builders Yard XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4499
19:40:32  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4501 (New): Earlier graphics for Cement Plant XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4501
19:40:57  <andythenorth> oh noes
19:41:03  <andythenorth> Dan is increasing my ticket count :(
19:41:32  <planetmaker> hm, a water mill among tickets?
19:41:49  <andythenorth> he sent a mockup for one
19:42:23  <planetmaker>  yes, to me, too.
19:42:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4503 (New): Earlier graphics for Dredging Site XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4503
19:43:02  <V453000> os there a place to see the spries or are those just tickets?
19:43:32  <planetmaker> he, good question. He should attach sprites :-)
19:43:48  <planetmaker> ah, not yet existing, V453000
19:43:51  <V453000> :P
19:43:56  <V453000> :(
19:43:56  <planetmaker> DanMacK assigned those tasks to himself
19:44:03  <planetmaker> so in the sense of "will do"
19:44:13  <V453000> hm :)
19:44:16  <planetmaker> and memory for himself :-)
19:44:20  <planetmaker> Fair enough, I say
19:44:59  <V453000> sure I was just curious
19:45:10  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #4505 (New): Greeble for empty tiles on Iron Works XDanMacKX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/4505
19:45:40  <planetmaker> yup, so was I :-)
19:45:49  <planetmaker> (and still am :-P )
21:09:51  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3147:1caabc23ed04: Codechange: cargo props now rendered fro... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1caabc23ed04
21:10:25  <andythenorth> ^ I gave up trying to hack it and wrote python classes for cargos
21:10:25  <andythenorth> :P
21:10:54  <andythenorth> and cargotable *is* required, otherwise nmlc complains
21:11:40  <Brot6> firs: update from r3146 to r3147 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3147
21:12:12  <V453000> evil
21:13:22  * andythenorth ponders FIRS r4k :p
21:14:25  <V453000> :)
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21:36:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3149:9391365e6b59: Codechange: adjust how cargos are import... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9391365e6b59
21:37:50  <Brot6> firs: update from r3148 to r3149 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3149
21:54:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3150:7173e75cf8c1: Codechange: some basic economy support f... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7173e75cf8c1
21:56:14  <Brot6> firs: update from r3149 to r3150 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3150
21:57:55  <Yexo> Hirundo_: around? We should plan a release of nml 0.3
21:58:09  <planetmaker> Ammler, wrt rhodecode: https://rhodecode.openttdcoop.org/firs/files/0a28a9dae55972607df5f0c2147bbd8de3d86781/sprites/nml/industries and try to click on one of the industry's pnml files. It brings mit to FIRS tip instead of a file view. Any clue?
22:00:11  <planetmaker> Ammler, also going to tag 0.7.0-beta1 for FIRS triggers three warnings of not existing nodes
22:02:44  <planetmaker> Ammler, I need the hg-web view. rhodecode sucks at browsing due to the mentioned bugs in file access... where can I find it?
22:04:23  <Ammler> hgweb.o.o
22:05:23  <Ammler> sometimes, it is hard to tell people that tip is no version :-)
22:05:27  <planetmaker> doesn't work. "verbindung wurde zur├╝ckgesetzt"
22:06:35  <planetmaker> yes. rightfully so. As your view on the issue is 98% flawed
22:07:09  <planetmaker> and hgweb doesn't work
22:10:26  <Ammler> well, it does yet, dns issue
22:10:33  <Ammler> s/yet/now/
22:10:34  <Brot6> Ammler meant: "well, it does now, dns issue"
22:11:09  <Alberth> Ammler: tip is a version, if you also have a time stamp :)
22:11:23  <Ammler> planetmaker: those issues could also be rewrite issues
22:13:22  <Ammler> planetmaker: where did you get that link from?
22:14:21  <Ammler> Alberth: there are people around using it like it is a version like a tag
22:14:42  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3151:7225049880a9: Codechange: make cargo imports slightly ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7225049880a9
22:14:43  <planetmaker> Ammler, I get that link when I browse the repo. just normally
22:14:47  <planetmaker> as described
22:14:48  <Ammler> specially rhodecode does announce tip a bit too much
22:15:01  <Alberth> Ammler: I do that too, every now and then :)
22:15:37  <Brot6> firs: update from r3150 to r3151 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3151
22:16:05  <Ammler> Alberth: you are infected from svn like many others here :-P
22:16:30  <Ammler> planetmaker: that is another hash
22:17:03  <Ammler> planetmaker: also how do you get from there to hg.o.o ?
22:17:07  <Alberth> why is using HEAD bad, when you know there is no confusion possible (or not relevant)
22:17:20  <Ammler> Alberth: because it is only your head
22:17:33  <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't get there. But rhodecode fails to display me the file contents at a given revision
22:17:51  <planetmaker> or please tell me how rhodecode enables me to shoe firs.pnml @ 0.6.5-beta1 tag
22:17:56  <Ammler> well, in the above example it does because that hash doesn't exist
22:18:15  <Alberth> Ammler: ah, in that way. Yeah, I'd only refer to tip in context of pushed revisions :)
22:19:34  <Ammler> so you should alsways say, tip of hg.o.o :-)
22:19:57  <Ammler> would be easiet to just say "default" or a tag or a hash
22:19:59  <Alberth> too long :)
22:20:13  <Ammler> default is longer as tip of hg.openttdcoop.org ?
22:20:14  <Alberth> default is just as bad
22:20:23  <Ammler> default is the same
22:20:42  <Ammler> there it does not matter, where
22:21:03  <Alberth> if you do branch based development it is better, actually :)
22:21:24  <planetmaker> Ammler, "default" is not a revision but a branch name
22:21:26  <Ammler> planetmaker: just go to the file and then tell show as
22:21:55  <planetmaker> Ammler, goto rhodecode.o.o. select tag 0.6.5-beta1. navigate to the file. and click it. where do you end up?
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22:23:34  <Ammler> r2084:194a7d3e5f79
22:23:51  <Ammler> I can't reproduce your issue
22:24:09  <Ammler> planetmaker: how do you select the tag?
22:24:53  <planetmaker> Ammler, go to firs repo in rhodecode. select branch 0.7.
22:25:03  <Ammler> how do you select a branch?
22:25:06  <planetmaker> navigate to sprites -> nml -> industries -> arable_farm.pnml
22:25:15  <planetmaker> switch_to in main menu -> branches
22:25:18  <Ammler> ok
22:25:26  <Ammler> same way you should select a tag
22:27:46  <Ammler> well, we might need to investigate how to fix the clone issue with hgweb
22:27:59  <Ammler> rhodecode seems still too experimental
22:28:19  <planetmaker> so you confirmed my issue?
22:28:28  <Ammler> [23:23] <Ammler> I can't reproduce your issue
22:28:35  <planetmaker> did you go via branch?
22:28:48  <planetmaker> 0.7 and then sprites -> nml -> industries -> arable_farm.pnml ?
22:28:52  <planetmaker> or didn't you try that
22:29:07  <planetmaker> (not tag. but branch)
22:29:54  <Ammler> ok, that I can confirm
22:30:08  <Ammler> you know why?
22:30:11  <planetmaker> no
22:31:11  <Ammler> there is a rewrite
22:31:29  <Ammler> let me check, if it is one of mine
22:32:10  <Ammler> not one of mine
22:32:20  <Ammler> I use 301 (permanent)
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22:34:02  <Ammler> it seems like if rhodecode has an issue it rewrites to tip
22:34:22  <Ammler> and as you should know me, I would never rewrite to tip :-)
22:41:21  <Ammler> planetmaker: is it possible, that the file from the branch doesn't exist on our tip anymore
22:41:54  <Ammler> it might be rhodecode does some silly things before displaying, would make the bugreport a bit more clear
22:46:42  <planetmaker> Ammler, similar way: just open the repo. Use the revision counter / edit box. Go back by some (or more) and then click a file. It will also throw you back to tip
22:48:14  <planetmaker> and yes, it is *tip*. Not the specific revision which currently is tip.
22:49:21  <Ammler> well, I know tip is bad, tell that the rhodecode guys :-P
22:49:47  <Ammler> but I think, it is confirmed, the issue happens, if the file doesn't exist on tip
22:51:20  <planetmaker> hm, not exists... let's check
22:52:11  <planetmaker> yes, that might be the case
22:52:22  <Ammler> and if you have such issue, it is good to test with curl
22:52:29  <Ammler> then you see redirects
22:52:40  <Ammler> if it has code 302, it rhodecode
22:52:51  <Ammler> 301 it might be a rewrite issue from me
22:56:26  <Ammler> planetmaker: the question is also because of those many bugs rhodecode has, shall we invest time to report it or shall we try to get hgweb working
22:57:37  <Ammler> but you should also see, rhodecode has a lot more features, so bugs can be more, hgweb is very simple
22:58:17  <planetmaker> what you mean with "hgweb working"? Hasn't it been working for since like ever?
22:59:03  <Ammler> no, it doesn't work with big files, I assume it is something with gunicron
22:59:14  <planetmaker> what kind of big files?
22:59:28  <Ammler> try to clone zbase via hgweb.o.o
22:59:51  <Ammler> I wonder, you aren't aware of that, why did you give zeph ssh access?
23:00:21  <planetmaker> oh, that you mean
23:00:41  <Ammler> yes, that I mean :-P
23:01:04  <Ammler> I thought, I can't save the fix with rhodecode ;-)
23:01:09  <Ammler> -n't
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