Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 23rd June 2013:
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12:45:16  <Alberth> eints access control seems quite broken :p
12:55:51  <andythenorth> :(
12:56:29  <andythenorth> what's the issue?
12:56:33  <andythenorth> issues /s
12:57:56  <andythenorth> Alberth: considered piggybacking someone else's work?
12:57:57  <Alberth> SOMEONE - /*/*/*/*   <-- that line is supposed to say "unauthenticated users have no further rights". Instead the rule matches as "allowed" for everybody :)
12:58:24  <andythenorth> authentication frameworks are hard :)
12:58:26  <andythenorth> ??
12:58:27  <Webster> Title: Cork - Authentication for the Bottle web framework Cork 0.5 documentation (at
13:00:14  <Alberth> looks very interesting if we want to run it fully standalone
13:01:14  <planetmaker> sounds like a good plan, andythenorth. No need to re-invent a wheel, if it just needs picking up elsewhere
13:01:22  <andythenorth> I'm not clear actually on how we do want to run eints
13:01:33  <andythenorth> I work better with some boxes-arrows diagram than words
13:02:01  <Alberth> :)
13:02:11  <Alberth> I am not sure about that either
13:02:27  <Alberth> current plan is to hook it up to RM roles
13:02:45  <Alberth> ie like "developer" or "manager" in the current projects
13:02:52  <andythenorth> ah ok
13:03:00  <Alberth> we will have a new role "translator" as well
13:03:42  <Alberth> but it is not so flexible, as a role has also project permissions attached
13:04:22  <planetmaker> Alberth, do you have a RM install now you can work with?
13:04:52  <Alberth> no, fr0sch installed one
13:05:00  <frosch123> i wanted to upload my vm image, but originally i thought i would install bananas first
13:05:07  <frosch123> but that won't happen before next weekend
13:05:43  <planetmaker> hm, you want to marry it to bananas as well?
13:06:17  <frosch123> no, i only concluded that both eints and bananas are stuck because there is no way to test is whatsoever
13:06:41  <frosch123> thus my plan is to provide a test installation in a vm for everyone who wants to get his/her hands dirty :)
13:07:35  <planetmaker> :-) great
13:08:31  <planetmaker> having that possibly generally is a good idea. hm :-)
13:11:50  <andythenorth> frosch123: installing bananas? :D
13:12:00  <andythenorth> tb told me that was unrepeatable :)
13:12:16  <frosch123> i'll see :p
13:12:25  <andythenorth> if you get it unstuck, I will happily help improve current bananas, or work on bananas deux
13:12:45  <planetmaker> :-)
13:16:11  <Alberth> is there some description what we actually want?
13:16:26  <andythenorth> for bananaramas?
13:16:29  <andythenorth> not afaik
13:16:40  <andythenorth> TB has a shopping list of things he hates about it
13:17:05  <Rubidium> what about having a proper meeting about it?
13:17:09  <andythenorth> my pet things are (1) better login process (2) an info page for each newgrf
13:17:11  <Rubidium> how does the 27th of July sound?
13:17:13  <Alberth> it may be easier to list the things he wants to keep :)
13:17:15  <planetmaker> andythenorth, ^^
13:17:19  <andythenorth> Rubidium: appoint a project manager
13:17:24  <andythenorth> book a room
13:17:30  <planetmaker> room booked
13:17:32  <planetmaker> date set
13:17:34  <planetmaker> do you come?
13:17:58  <planetmaker> would indeed be a *very good* opportunity :-)
13:18:11  * Rubidium appoints planetmaker to booking the room ;)
13:18:36  <planetmaker> Rubidium, I might indeed need do that... my flat is... not big compared to the number of people who pledged to come
13:19:13  <Rubidium> no tent in the garden?
13:19:26  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3660:05b498c17013: Change: add stub elements for a new econ... XandythenorthX @
13:19:27  <Rubidium> or are there significantly more coming this time?
13:19:38  <planetmaker> well, sure no problem during the day :-)
13:19:46  <planetmaker> there are significantly more staying over night
13:20:54  <andythenorth> ho ho
13:21:04  <andythenorth> I can reuse the SUGR label
13:21:06  <Alberth> sleeping in a real bed would be nice :)
13:21:16  <Brot6> firs: update from r3658 to r3660 done (30 warnings) -
13:22:04  <planetmaker> Alberth, that will require to book a hotel then indeed, I fear.... I've one bed which acts as my couch. And my own bed. And I have a 3rd matrace
13:23:29  <planetmaker> maybe 5 other people fit in both, my living room and my sleeping room. And then I have a space beneath the roof where I usually dry my clothes. Another 5 to 7 people can sleep there. Anything more... will prove very... challanging
13:24:59  <andythenorth> if all the devs are there, we should insure against fire, plane crash, earthquake... :)
13:26:01  <planetmaker> not all. But the bus-factor for server root is one then
13:26:31  <planetmaker> and of percentage of commits in last 12 months probably like 90% of people being there
13:26:59  <Alberth> "translator" is coming too? :p
13:27:20  <planetmaker> :D yeah. in disguise. He sometimes calls himself "eints"
13:27:28  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #6002 (New): Check properties set correctly for new cargos i... XandythenorthX @
13:27:38  <Alberth> I wish :)
13:28:43  <planetmaker> would be awesome, if you could make it, andythenorth :-)
13:31:13  <frosch123> beware though, there will be lots of germans around
13:34:53  <planetmaker> more Germans than dutchies?
13:35:24  <frosch123> way more
13:35:27  <frosch123> almost double
13:35:34  <planetmaker> yes, indeed
13:36:10  <planetmaker> 6 Germans, 3 dutchies. exactly double?
13:36:37  <frosch123> never figured out what dih is
13:36:38  <andythenorth> is it baby friendly? :P
13:36:41  <planetmaker>
13:36:42  <Webster> Title: Doodle: (25+4)k (at
13:36:47  <andythenorth> I don't travel anywhere without children now :P
13:36:52  <planetmaker> andythenorth, yes, I can accomodate for that
13:37:15  <planetmaker> andythenorth, not even a weekend w/o family?
13:37:21  <frosch123> what age? :)
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13:39:51  <Alberth> choo choo level afaik :)
13:40:12  <planetmaker> perfect. I have my wood choo choo still in my living room. For visitors of that age :-)
13:40:51  <planetmaker> it didn't even age a lot in the last 30-odd years ;-)
13:43:28  <planetmaker> I'd say it's even ok for <3 years... can't be swallowed ;-)
13:44:03  <andythenorth> biab ;)
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13:44:37  <planetmaker> hm...
13:51:06  <planetmaker> could be a hotel with quite acceptable prices...
13:51:07  <Webster> Title: Altstadthotel Wienecke im Herzen Braunschweigs (at
13:51:59  <planetmaker> and allegedly also good... at least a collegue of mine always stays there when he visits
13:54:01  <frosch123> thinking of a 2-room apartment for 6 people?
13:55:32  <frosch123> it's quite a distance from your place though, isn't it?
13:55:50  <planetmaker> well. yes, one cannot walk it. But taxi should cost like 10 ... 15€
13:56:11  <planetmaker> but there's no good hotel in walking distance here which I know of
13:56:15  <frosch123> hmm, yeah, always forget that option :)
13:56:47  <planetmaker> sharing that with 3 or 4 people, or maybe even more, it's dirt cheap :-)
13:59:18  <Rubidium> ... or... someone comes by car?
13:59:51  <planetmaker> :-) yes. But that means no alcohol :D So I excluded that option ;-)
14:00:55  <planetmaker> hm... there are a few appartements relatively nearby...
14:06:39  <planetmaker> or... much closer, one can walk there in maybe 10 or 15 minutes:
14:06:40  <Webster> Title: FORSTHAUS Appartements Braunschweig :: Besser als zu Hause. (at
14:07:13  <planetmaker> might be cheaper even... as it's w/o breakfast (we could have that jointly) and not per person
14:09:49  <Rubidium> well, they say from 54 EUR
14:09:59  <Rubidium> which is probably for the single bed room
14:10:09  <planetmaker> yes, probably
14:10:28  <Rubidium> so the question is how expensive the penthouse room is ("for up to 5 persons")
14:16:31  <planetmaker> yes. I guess I shall investigate on that issue
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15:59:33  <Brot6> Webtranslator - Revision 211:5087c10c29ed: -Codechange: Move page access control logic completely to... XAlberthX @
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16:21:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #6002 (New): Check properties set correctly for new cargos i... XandythenorthX @
17:19:15  <Brot6> xussrset: update from r992 to r996 done (4 warnings) -
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18:28:03  <michi_cc> Rubidium: I'll probably come by car like last time.
18:29:34  <michi_cc> planetmaker: I could also host some folks in Hannover, at least for those it makes sense (e.g. coming or going via Hannover)
18:29:56  <Rubidium> thought you lived in Berlin
18:30:51  <planetmaker> michi_cc, that might make sense, yes. 17+ people in my flat is... a lot
18:31:08  <planetmaker> though it means to drive an hour after the party... not sure you want to do that :-)
18:31:50  <Rubidium> previous instance there was a similar "stop" in Enschede, but TB even drove back to Leiden
18:32:12  <planetmaker> yes, he's known to be insane ;-)
18:32:54  <michi_cc> Rubidium: I do, but that doesn't make the house near Hannover vanish :) And conveniently my mum's on holiday during that time.
18:33:12  <michi_cc> planetmaker: I did last time and it was fine.
18:34:14  <planetmaker> well, that might help
18:35:42  <michi_cc> Unless somebody else is driving as well that would be max 4.
18:36:02  <frosch123> it does not allow extending the party into the breakfast and the passing on the baton to london though :p
18:37:47  <Rubidium> just make the party long enough, and they can take the 06:15 plane to London from Hannover ;)
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20:34:57  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #6005 (New): Docs - Arable Farm should also show Sugarcane as pr... XandythenorthX @
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