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05:03:23 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:46:36 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:47:08 <Rubidium> gooooood morning andythenorth 06:47:15 <andythenorth> bonjour 06:56:38 <andythenorth> ugh 06:56:43 <andythenorth> I broke my FIRS build :P 06:57:08 <andythenorth> accidentally ran 'make install' for nml 06:57:52 <andythenorth> fixed :) 06:57:58 <andythenorth> that was briefly confusing :o 07:15:01 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3734:bf56dc4a2e77: Codechange: adjust a comment for accurac... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/bf56dc4a2e77 07:15:01 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3735:7fb9ea4c4db8: Codechange: abstract how industries get ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7fb9ea4c4db8 07:18:06 <Supercheese> The sugar refinery is very hard to see on the map, green-on-green 07:18:14 <andythenorth> +1 07:18:19 <andythenorth> purple map? o_O 07:18:34 <andythenorth> sometimes it would be nice to specify a 1px alt-border on industries 07:18:38 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:18:39 <Brot6> firs: update from r3733 to r3735 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3735 07:18:45 <andythenorth> there are limited viable colour combinations for minimap 07:18:52 <Alberth> o/ 07:18:53 <Supercheese> well, the neat highlight-when-hover feature is nice 07:19:00 <Supercheese> blinks white 07:19:07 <Supercheese> makes it much easier to see 07:19:12 <andythenorth> hi Alberth 07:19:18 <Alberth> Supercheese: frosch should be blamed for that :) 07:19:37 <Supercheese> if by blamed you mean praised ;) 07:19:55 <Alberth> praise is just negative blame :p 07:20:28 <Alberth> hmm, I should be less negative at such a nice day :) 07:23:44 <andythenorth> :) 07:28:43 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3736:e54113272682: Codechange: stub in a bit more support f... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e54113272682 07:29:17 <andythenorth> bbl 07:29:23 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:31:17 <Brot6> firs: update from r3735 to r3736 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3736 07:36:47 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:00:30 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 08:16:35 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:25:03 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1033 to r1035 done (74 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1035 08:29:25 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:30:12 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:01:02 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:23:00 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:58:12 <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Revision 215:90205ba95de9: Codechange: Improve comments and code layou... Xmart3pX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/isr/repository/revisions/90205ba95de9 10:15:23 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:32:37 *** gelignite has quit IRC 12:40:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:44:21 <Alberth> hi hi , I answered some of the questions that popped up in the firs thread, I hope you don't mind :) 12:52:19 * andythenorth is happy with that :) 12:52:26 <andythenorth> nice to have someone else on side 12:54:59 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1035 to r1036 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1036 12:55:27 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3737:60ff2ad0c110: Codechange: magic code to handle SGBT / ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/60ff2ad0c110 12:57:29 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #6158 (New): Coffee is missing the short form (STR_CID_COFFEE) XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6158 12:58:25 <Brot6> firs: update from r3736 to r3737 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3737 12:59:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #6005 (Closed): Docs - Arable Farm should also show Sugarcane as... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6005#change-16484 12:59:05 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3738:0e3e872b8d01: Codechange: set SGCN as well as SGBT at ... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/0e3e872b8d01 13:01:00 *** Zuu has quit IRC 13:02:13 <Brot6> firs: update from r3737 to r3738 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3738 13:04:13 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:28:00 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1036 to r1037 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1037 14:55:28 <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Revision 216:557da0e68af0: Feature: [FIRS] Add sugar and coffee cargos Xmart3pX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/isr/repository/revisions/557da0e68af0 15:05:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:15:17 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #6158 (Closed): Coffee is missing the short form (STR_CID_COFFEE... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6158 15:15:17 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3739:9326c6779448: Fix: set CF as short form string for Cof... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9326c6779448 15:15:17 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #6158 (Closed): Coffee is missing the short form (STR_CID_COFFEE... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/6158#change-16508 15:18:45 <Brot6> firs: update from r3738 to r3739 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3739 15:33:57 *** zooks has quit IRC 15:44:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:57:10 <Brot6> Industrial Stations Renewal - Revision 217:023d97e32f27: Feature: Add sugar and coffee to goods stat... Xmart3pX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/isr/repository/revisions/023d97e32f27 16:00:17 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:01:50 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:19:21 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1033 to r1037 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/nightlies/r1037 17:23:24 <Brot6> firs: update from r3733 to r3739 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r3739 17:24:08 <Brot6> chips: update from r257 to r267 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/nightlies/r267 17:24:34 <Brot6> isr: update from r214 to r217 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/isr/nightlies/r217 17:27:55 *** zooks has quit IRC 17:30:23 *** zooks has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:01:11 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3740:ec32be86f1eb: Update: Dutch language XAlberthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ec32be86f1eb 18:04:03 <Brot6> firs: update from r3739 to r3740 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3740 18:35:22 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:35:47 * Alberth added the coffee string to the dutch language 18:35:57 <andythenorth> apparently I missed a tennis match 18:38:34 <andythenorth> Alberth: some of the other strings might be missing 18:38:49 <andythenorth> I never paid attention to those short IDs before 18:38:54 <andythenorth> they're kind of silly imho 18:39:26 <Alberth> no idea where they are used 18:39:43 <andythenorth> station list 18:39:43 <Alberth> perhaps in the station overview? 18:39:51 <andythenorth> not sure if used anywhere else at all 18:40:07 <andythenorth> I see they have to exist, but...they're kind of meh 18:40:23 <andythenorth> I can't relate the 2 chars to the cargo names, and there's no tooltip afaict 18:40:31 <andythenorth> that view might be better rewritten :P 18:40:32 <Alberth> use "ST" (stuff) for all :) 18:40:46 <andythenorth> :) 18:41:22 <Alberth> hmm, I have little problems with that,mostly because I know what stations are transporting 18:41:37 <Alberth> I should find a good naming strategy for stations though 18:41:57 <frosch123> i never use the station list 18:42:01 <Alberth> the overview window is nice for seeing where you have a problem 18:42:07 <frosch123> sometimes i group vehicles, but only sometimes 18:42:23 <Alberth> I never group them :) 18:42:26 <frosch123> i use the industry list for that 18:42:39 <frosch123> sort the industry list by percentage transported 18:42:55 * andythenorth plays "guess the cargos" 18:43:09 <Alberth> doesn't help with feeder systems :) 18:43:24 <andythenorth> wonder what CL is? 18:43:30 <frosch123> clay 18:43:40 <frosch123> coal? 18:44:00 <andythenorth> probably a bug in FIRS, might be the correct answer 18:44:08 <frosch123> Alberth: i have a suggestion for the industry chains view 18:44:17 <Alberth> oh dear :) 18:44:26 <andythenorth> it's much easier to use the station overview when the cargo payment chart is also open :P 18:44:28 <frosch123> if there are multiple industries i always have to scroll to the cargo name to see what is what 18:44:30 <andythenorth> it provides a handy colour key :P 18:44:41 <frosch123> how about to draw the abbreviation at every industry box? 18:44:45 <Alberth> (08:44:05 PM) andythenorth: I can't relate the 2 chars to the cargo names, and there's no tooltip afaict <- andy has a suggestion too 18:44:57 * andythenorth wonders if station overview needs a key 18:45:06 <andythenorth> a key is usually a sign of a bad design, not always 18:45:28 <Alberth> frosch123: can be useful 18:45:34 <frosch123> andythenorth: i am all for string filters in all lists 18:45:59 <frosch123> want to see stations transporting coal, just type coal 18:46:10 <frosch123> instead of searching a row of 27 silly icons to find the coal 18:46:25 <frosch123> kids also learn spelling that way :p 18:46:36 <frosch123> and we spol touchscreens 18:47:06 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest2409 18:47:06 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:47:14 <andythenorth> wifi dropout :o how rude 18:47:27 <frosch123> did you get my rant? :p 18:47:29 *** Guest2409 has quit IRC 18:47:54 <andythenorth> not so much 18:47:56 <andythenorth> was it good? 18:48:00 <Alberth> isn't the channel logged? :) 18:48:07 <frosch123> it is 18:48:09 <frosch123> @locs 18:48:11 <frosch123> @logs 18:48:12 <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/ 18:48:43 *** zooks has quit IRC 18:49:15 <andythenorth> frosch123: nice rant 18:49:33 <andythenorth> text filtering 'won' quite some years ago imo 18:49:46 <andythenorth> I think it was mostly just waiting for things to be fast enough 18:50:07 <Alberth> frosch123: with "abbreviation in your suggestion" you mean the silly two-letter cargo names, right? 18:50:26 <frosch123> yup :) 18:50:27 <Alberth> hmm, " are wrong there :) 18:51:35 <frosch123> oh, the industry chains actually have a tooltip there 18:51:39 <Alberth> well, step 2 done, I wrote the suggestion at a piece of paper :) 18:52:08 <Alberth> mv paper /dev/null ? 18:52:09 <andythenorth> it's quaint, we have cargo name, icon, colour, and abbreviation 18:52:36 <Alberth> not to mention units of the stuff in various forms :) 18:52:43 <andythenorth> oh that's ok :) 18:54:26 <andythenorth> more the merrier :P 18:54:48 <andythenorth> all this stuff in no way makes newgrf cargos insanely bureaucratic and prone to bugs :) 18:56:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3741:e78b7328187d: Fix: Diamonds cargo had wrong abbreviati... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e78b7328187d 18:57:31 <Alberth> nml doesn't help you? 18:58:15 <andythenorth> only in the respect of making compiles really slow so testing is hard :) 18:58:24 <andythenorth> no nml doesn't help much :) 18:58:58 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3742:90d1f35d7634: Codechange: use nml constants instead of... XandythenorthX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/90d1f35d7634 18:59:14 <andythenorth> to be fair, I can use 'make install TEST_INDUSTRY=NONE' and get < 10s FIRS compile 18:59:19 <Brot6> firs: update from r3740 to r3741 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3741 18:59:48 <Alberth> you're just hopelessly spoiled :p 19:02:38 <Brot6> firs: update from r3741 to r3742 done (30 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/r3742 19:08:39 <Alberth> why does xussr set use russian as translation? 19:09:36 <frosch123> because it is a russian set? 19:21:15 <Alberth> hmm, yeah, but I somewhat expected it to use russian as base language, the website they refer to is also russian http://forums.ttdrussia.net 19:21:16 <Webster> Title: TTD Russia Главная страница (at forums.ttdrussia.net) 19:32:20 * andythenorth is sat in the garden watching the hose water plants 19:32:21 <andythenorth> 31' 19:33:55 <frosch123> what do you want with 31 feet? 19:33:59 <frosch123> shoes only come in pairs 19:38:05 <andythenorth> there's probably a deg symbol in unicode somewhere :P 19:38:07 <andythenorth> maybe even in ascii 19:38:14 <andythenorth> this hose is only 31 feet 19:38:17 <andythenorth> I need about 60 19:39:06 <frosch123> ° <- that one 19:39:10 <frosch123> ? 19:39:21 <frosch123> it's regulary on my keyboard 19:42:00 <andythenorth> :) 19:42:07 <andythenorth> it's probably here somewhere 19:46:05 <frosch123> i am sure your keyboard has at least 6 useless keys which you can map to more useful stuff 19:47:32 *** Alberth has quit IRC 19:51:09 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:01:50 <Brot6> xussrset: update from r1037 to r1038 done (4 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/xussrset/push/r1038 20:08:03 <Brot6> NUTS Unrealistic Train Set - Revision 47:b85d4deb84b4: Various things and fixes XV453000X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/revisions/b85d4deb84b4 20:08:03 <Brot6> NUTS Unrealistic Train Set - Revision 48:78d25523c411: Stuff for 0.5.4 XV453000X @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/revisions/78d25523c411 20:11:24 <Brot6> Backup firs: abort: no suitable response from remote hg! 20:24:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 3743:3f83aec2dabf: Change: adjust colours of Copper Ore, Co... 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