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So repos and stuff is not affected and you simply can continue to work as before 13:16:07 <George> as before is not possible, because we used PUSH builds as GRF exchange between teem members 13:16:33 <George> Now I need to compile a grf and send it with skype 13:18:55 <planetmaker> why do you need to send grfs? Can't the team members pull and build themselves? 13:19:29 <planetmaker> that's rather quick and easy, I'd think 13:20:26 <George> theorticaly they can, but with CF it was faster 13:20:53 <George> For example my PC takes 3 more time to complie than CF 13:21:21 <George> (Core 2 DUO 2,4) 13:26:27 <planetmaker> Well, yes, I understand that. But I unfortunately can't quickly change that 13:28:09 <planetmaker> I only have a rough idea where the failure to build NML nightly by the CF comes from - those all are parts of the CF I'm not terribly familiar with and which I have to study and learn the structure and workings, then analyse the error and then try to mend it 13:28:16 <planetmaker> I expect it to take hours 13:29:07 <planetmaker> which likely Ammler just would know 13:29:18 <George> And why is it not possible to use previous build that worked? 13:29:43 <George> Unless a new one is provided 13:29:54 <planetmaker> I don't know 13:32:05 <planetmaker> also it wouldn't solve the real issue. which is "why does building nml fail?" 13:32:20 <planetmaker> which is some missing packet in the build requirements 13:32:29 <planetmaker> or so I *believe* 13:33:10 <planetmaker> anyway... all I can tell you, that this is quite high in my list of priorities relating to OpenTTD 13:33:20 <planetmaker> I will not give an estimate when it will work, though 13:34:10 <planetmaker> as I can't tell you how fast I will learn to use suse build services and in which way we use it 13:34:24 <planetmaker> (bus factor 1 hit us here) 13:36:01 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:37:27 <planetmaker> and believe me, if I say that I find the whole situation anything but satisfactorily 13:37:34 <planetmaker> I'm not happy about this at all 13:37:55 <planetmaker> especially as I can't help it as quickly as I would like 13:53:16 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #5258 (Closed): Fallback railtypes do not work as intended XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5258#change-16724 14:41:53 *** dell_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:46:12 *** fanioz has quit IRC 14:54:23 *** dell_ has quit IRC 14:56:01 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:02:31 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:08:50 *** George|2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:08:50 *** George is now known as Guest1076 16:08:50 *** George|2 is now known as George 16:14:29 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:14:45 *** Guest1076 has quit IRC 16:16:41 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 268:23efa6f1dad9: - New savegame format, more more, and even more small XkrinnX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/23efa6f1dad9 16:16:41 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 269:04aa7817ecf3: - Don't wait to remove a dead station if infrastructure main... XkrinnX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/04aa7817ecf3 16:19:11 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:22:42 *** fanioz has quit IRC 16:35:58 *** George is now known as Guest1081 16:36:00 *** George has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:42:20 *** Guest1081 has quit IRC 17:04:53 <Alberth> ha, F19 has no PIL any more, it uses Pillow instead 17:18:17 *** gelignite has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:18:41 <Brot6> isr: update from r228 to r231 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/isr/nightlies/r231 17:38:51 <planetmaker> something like that was announced 17:38:56 <planetmaker> does NML still work? :-) 17:40:57 <frosch123> yay, figured out what f19 is ° 17:41:04 <frosch123> s/°/!/ 17:41:04 <Brot6> frosch123 meant: "yay, figured out what f19 is !" 17:44:00 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2434/ it uses pillow as replacement 17:47:45 <planetmaker> sweet, so it works :-) 17:47:49 <planetmaker> thanks for testing 17:48:32 <Alberth> I just pulled some data from the package manager :) 17:49:14 <Alberth> switched to a new system, so getting nml working again is much further away at my priority list now :) 17:50:05 <planetmaker> hm :-) 17:51:41 <Alberth> but it might be an idea to make pillow standard? 17:52:34 <Alberth> hmm, point at the meeting at saturday? :p 17:52:40 <planetmaker> :-) 17:53:05 <planetmaker> I just saw today, 6 days ago you added a patch for path treatment to the tracker but didn't commit it? 17:53:31 <Alberth> oh, yes 17:53:34 <frosch123> Alberth: should we make an official schedule of things to discuss? :p 17:53:58 <Alberth> gynter made a patch, but did not want to create a issue for it 17:54:26 <Alberth> the patch looked too big to commit at that point, and I was busy with other things, so I dumped it in a ticket 17:55:27 <Alberth> I had a quick other look at it, and it makes more complicated changes than I expected, it needs careful splitting to get an understanding of what exactly is being changed 17:56:15 <planetmaker> ok 17:57:21 <Alberth> frosch123: depending on how bad it is when we forget to discuss some item, we might want to :) 17:58:26 <frosch123> yeah, take some sheets of paper, put one item on each, and layer them alternating with the food supply 17:58:41 <frosch123> no additional food before the discussion of the item is not finished :p 17:58:44 <Alberth> :) 18:03:39 * Rubidium ponders buying a gavel 18:04:24 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/minutes.txt ;-) 18:05:03 <frosch123> oh, there already is :p 18:05:49 <planetmaker> just made it up ;-) 18:08:56 <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2435/ <- simplified it a bit :p 18:09:36 <planetmaker> :DDD 18:09:45 <Rubidium> oh, come on... 18:09:51 <Rubidium> * New? 18:09:57 <Rubidium> ^ its simplest form ;) 18:10:08 <planetmaker> %: % New 18:10:24 <planetmaker> make % 18:30:16 *** Supercheese has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:58:53 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:45:36 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 20:50:35 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 21:33:37 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:34:39 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:38:34 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:55:31 *** LordAro has quit IRC 22:15:10 *** dell_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:21:22 *** fanioz has quit IRC