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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 25th July 2013:
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13:09:22  <George> planetmaker> as soon as possible - not yet?
13:11:12  <planetmaker> yes, I'm sorry, I don't yet know how to fix it
13:12:09  <planetmaker> if you manage to have Ammler turn up and fix it, you win a free cookie
13:12:38  <planetmaker> or even free cookies for your whole family
13:14:13  <planetmaker> but the only thing affected is the compilation. So repos and stuff is not affected and you simply can continue to work as before
13:16:07  <George> as before is not possible, because we used PUSH builds as GRF exchange between teem members
13:16:33  <George> Now I need to compile a grf and send it with skype
13:18:55  <planetmaker> why do you need to send grfs? Can't the team members pull and build themselves?
13:19:29  <planetmaker> that's rather quick and easy, I'd think
13:20:26  <George> theorticaly they can, but with CF  it was faster
13:20:53  <George> For example my PC takes 3 more time to complie than CF
13:21:21  <George> (Core 2 DUO 2,4)
13:26:27  <planetmaker> Well, yes, I understand that. But I unfortunately can't quickly change that
13:28:09  <planetmaker> I only have a rough idea where the failure to build NML nightly by the CF comes from - those all are parts of the CF I'm not terribly familiar with and which I have to study and learn the structure and workings, then analyse the error and then try to mend it
13:28:16  <planetmaker> I expect it to take hours
13:29:07  <planetmaker> which likely Ammler just would know
13:29:18  <George> And why is it not possible to use previous build that worked?
13:29:43  <George> Unless a new one is provided
13:29:54  <planetmaker> I don't know
13:32:05  <planetmaker> also it wouldn't solve the real issue. which is "why does building nml fail?"
13:32:20  <planetmaker> which is some missing packet in the build requirements
13:32:29  <planetmaker> or so I *believe*
13:33:10  <planetmaker> anyway... all I can tell you, that this is quite high in my list of priorities relating to OpenTTD
13:33:20  <planetmaker> I will not give an estimate when it will work, though
13:34:10  <planetmaker> as I can't tell you how fast I will learn to use suse build services and in which way we use it
13:34:24  <planetmaker> (bus factor 1 hit us here)
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13:37:27  <planetmaker> and believe me, if I say that I find the whole situation anything but satisfactorily
13:37:34  <planetmaker> I'm not happy about this at all
13:37:55  <planetmaker> especially as I can't help it as quickly as I would like
13:53:16  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #5258 (Closed): Fallback railtypes do not work as intended XplanetmakerX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/5258#change-16724
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16:16:41  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 268:23efa6f1dad9: - New savegame format, more more, and even more small XkrinnX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/23efa6f1dad9
16:16:41  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 269:04aa7817ecf3: - Don't wait to remove a dead station if infrastructure main... XkrinnX @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/04aa7817ecf3
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17:04:53  <Alberth> ha, F19 has no PIL any more, it uses Pillow instead
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17:18:41  <Brot6> isr: update from r228 to r231 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/isr/nightlies/r231
17:38:51  <planetmaker> something like that was announced
17:38:56  <planetmaker> does NML still work? :-)
17:40:57  <frosch123> yay, figured out what f19 is °
17:41:04  <frosch123> s/°/!/
17:41:04  <Brot6> frosch123 meant: "yay, figured out what f19 is !"
17:44:00  <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2434/    it uses pillow as replacement
17:47:45  <planetmaker> sweet, so it works :-)
17:47:49  <planetmaker> thanks for testing
17:48:32  <Alberth> I just pulled some data from the package manager :)
17:49:14  <Alberth> switched to a new system, so getting nml working again is much further away at my priority list now :)
17:50:05  <planetmaker> hm :-)
17:51:41  <Alberth> but it might be an idea to make pillow standard?
17:52:34  <Alberth> hmm, point at the meeting at saturday? :p
17:52:40  <planetmaker> :-)
17:53:05  <planetmaker> I just saw today, 6 days ago you added a patch for path treatment to the tracker but didn't commit it?
17:53:31  <Alberth> oh, yes
17:53:34  <frosch123> Alberth: should we make an official schedule of things to discuss? :p
17:53:58  <Alberth> gynter made a patch, but did not want to create a issue for it
17:54:26  <Alberth> the patch looked too big to commit at that point, and I was busy with other things, so I dumped it in a ticket
17:55:27  <Alberth> I had a quick other look at it, and it makes more complicated changes than I expected, it needs careful splitting to get an understanding of what exactly is being changed
17:56:15  <planetmaker> ok
17:57:21  <Alberth> frosch123: depending on how bad it is when we forget to discuss some item, we might want to :)
17:58:26  <frosch123> yeah, take some sheets of paper, put one item on each, and layer them alternating with the food supply
17:58:41  <frosch123> no additional food before the discussion of the item is not finished :p
17:58:44  <Alberth> :)
18:03:39  * Rubidium ponders buying a gavel
18:04:24  <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/minutes.txt ;-)
18:05:03  <frosch123> oh, there already is :p
18:05:49  <planetmaker> just made it up ;-)
18:08:56  <frosch123> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/2435/ <- simplified it a bit :p
18:09:36  <planetmaker> :DDD
18:09:45  <Rubidium> oh, come on...
18:09:51  <Rubidium> * New?
18:09:57  <Rubidium> ^ its simplest form ;)
18:10:08  <planetmaker> %: % New
18:10:24  <planetmaker> make %
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