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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 23rd January 2016:
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09:38:38  <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #1348-push: SUCCESS in 7 min 48 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/1348/
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13:39:05  <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #1352-push: SUCCESS in 7 min 19 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/1352/
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14:13:34  <DevZone> Yippee, build fixed!
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14:44:46  <^Spike^> Alberth for your info on ottdc teamspeak it sounded like he had issues with seeting up an openttd server :)
14:45:14  <^Spike^> so in my defense he joined an openttd related teamspeak, asked things about a server :)
14:47:54  <Alberth> fair enough :)
14:48:22  <^Spike^> he never mentoined gta in any way
14:48:24  <^Spike^> :)
14:48:28  <Alberth> obviously :)
14:48:40  <^Spike^> and the fun thing is he said self-hosted
14:48:45  <^Spike^> in gta5 you can't self host servers
14:48:49  <^Spike^> rockstar does that :)
14:48:57  <Alberth> no need to tell, what other game is there that you want to play :p
14:49:10  <^Spike^> :D
14:49:20  <Alberth> haha, fun :)
14:49:40  <^Spike^> think he just joined the wrong session, but got more important stuff.....
14:49:47  <^Spike^> trying to revive an esxi host for work :'
14:49:48  <^Spike^> :)
14:50:18  <Alberth> spanish extreme imaging, right?  :D
14:50:27  <^Spike^> .....
14:50:31  <^Spike^> what? :)
14:50:34  <Alberth> es x i
14:50:38  <^Spike^> ah :)
14:50:43  <^Spike^> wish it was that
14:50:46  <Alberth> :)
14:50:48  <^Spike^> shamefully it's just vmware shit :)
14:51:07  <^Spike^> learning hp ilo crashes and need security to powercycle then install updates then hope it boots
14:51:11  <Alberth> reality always  sucks
14:51:16  <^Spike^> and then be happy happy with cluster :)
14:52:33  <Alberth> fill it with work :)
14:55:05  <^Spike^> and esxi boots again, ok that took me 2 hours, with 50 minutes of useless waiting because of (*)#$*)(@#$ ilo being a bitch
14:56:14  <Alberth> export PS1='(*)#$*)(@#$'
14:56:39  <^Spike^> nah... :)
14:57:27  <Alberth> I used ". " for a while as prompt, that was interesting :)
14:57:53  <^Spike^> hehe
14:57:57  <^Spike^> for you
14:58:02  <^Spike^> or ppl using your desktop? :)
14:58:10  <Alberth> for me
14:58:32  <Alberth> no clear message "I am done" any more :)
14:58:50  <DevZone> Project Japanese Buildings build #239-push: SUCCESS in 20 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/jpbuild/239/
14:58:53  <Alberth> just a very subtle .
14:59:14  <^Spike^> :)
14:59:49  <Alberth> very messy in scrolling back to the previous command
15:00:30  <^Spike^> case of am i doing .. or . or ...? :)
15:00:53  <Alberth> :)
15:02:00  <Alberth> doing a lot of java, where source is buried 5 levels of directories :)
15:02:05  <^Spike^> hehe
15:02:19  <^Spike^> do have to say my bash does have the alias ... and .... but well :)
15:02:42  <Alberth> I think mine has too, but I don't use those for some reason
15:02:48  <^Spike^> sometimes
15:02:53  <^Spike^> i've been doing too much vmware lately
15:03:05  <^Spike^> which means i manage alot with *whispers* windows
15:03:19  <^Spike^> although i'm doing my best at avoiding that these days aswell :)
15:03:25  <^Spike^> Look vmware has a linux appliance!
15:03:30  <^Spike^> let's use that!
15:04:44  <Alberth> yeah, MS at least claims that the OS isn't very relevant any more
15:42:58  <Rubidium> SAAS all the way, right?
15:46:45  <DevZone> Project xussrset - Trains from Russia build #1353-push: SUCCESS in 7 min 35 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/xussrset/1353/
15:47:11  <^Spike^> from a employee @ ISP stand point i have to say yes
15:47:16  <^Spike^> personally: Depends on the application :)
15:47:36  <^Spike^> although, our view usually also is: depends on the application
15:47:54  <^Spike^> i made sales unhappy once when i told a customer he should do video processing on a dedicated server instead of a vm :)
15:48:26  <Rubidium> why? A lower margin on dedicated machines?
15:48:50  <^Spike^> nah, sales is like: It's must run on a VM! much cheaper!
15:49:09  <^Spike^> where i took the: We keep a happy customer standpoint instead of we lose an unhappy customer :)
15:49:40  <Rubidium> because I reckon that you as a company oversell the physical hardware's raw processing power in VMs
15:49:56  <Rubidium> after all, a VM is mostly doing nothing and occasionally needs a lot...
15:50:00  <^Spike^> ehm, cpu yes, mem no
15:50:38  <^Spike^> cause as you say: most of the time VMs don't do much CPU wise
15:50:41  <^Spike^> they mostly hog memory :)
15:50:45  <^Spike^> in our case
15:50:54  <^Spike^> it differs from environment to environment
15:51:07  <Rubidium> but when they run video rendering or so on your VMs the whole day, then that CPU power left for the others is quickly reduced to near zero
15:51:36  <Rubidium> which means either spreading his VMs very carefully, or building adding way more physical machines
15:51:42  <Rubidium> but I reckon sales doesn't understand that
15:52:26  <^Spike^> nop that's why i have to keep an eye on every &$#)($ cluster to make sure sales didn't make a boo-boo
15:55:37  <DevZone> Project Japanese Landscape build #36-push: SUCCESS in 16 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/jpland/36/
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18:15:38  <DevZone> Project Building sprite test project build #113-nightlies: SUCCESS in 36 sec: https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/sprite-tests/113/
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