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Log for #openttdcoop.nightly on 11th November 2012:
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16:58:46  <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged
16:58:46  <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server'
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16:58:46  *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r24673 | !content (buggy), !update, !install & !restart | #openttdcoop.pro is back"
16:58:53  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
16:59:03  <Ammler> !update
16:59:03  <Nachtigall> Ammler: Update starting...
16:59:09  <Ammler> !content
16:59:10  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Connection established
16:59:10  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
16:59:10  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Nothing to download
16:59:17  <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r24677
16:59:31  <Ammler> !install
16:59:31  <Nachtigall> Ammler: install done, please run !restart
16:59:36  <Ammler> !restart
16:59:36  <Nachtigall> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
17:00:02  <Nachtigall> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
17:00:02  <Nachtigall> Thank you for playing r24673.
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17:00:13  <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged
17:00:13  <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server'
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17:03:50  <Ammler> !getsave
17:03:50  <Nachtigall> Ammler: !getsave <url>: downloads the save from given <url>
17:04:31  <Ammler> afaik, you can also downlaod grfs with that command :-)
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17:05:13  <frosch123> lol, everyone is op except the bot?
17:05:15  *** Ammler changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r24677 | !content, !update, !install & !restart | #openttdcoop.pro is back"
17:05:40  <Ammler> you need to be of for the !-commands
17:05:47  <Ammler> op*
17:06:16  <Ammler> @topic remove -1
17:06:17  *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r24677 | !content, !update, !install & !restart"
17:07:02  *** Ammler changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r24677 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave"
17:07:30  *** Ammler changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r24677 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>"
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17:30:37  <Ammler> !rcon rescannewwgrf
17:30:37  <Nachtigall> Ammler: ERROR: command not found
17:30:45  <Ammler> !rcon rescannewgrf
17:31:14  <Ammler> frosch123: possible to get a newgrf list via console?
17:31:50  <Ammler> mäh, would be too big anyway
17:32:16  <frosch123> we'll see whether it loads the same
17:32:18  <frosch123> *safe
17:32:25  <Ammler> indeed
17:33:39  <frosch123> *save
17:35:17  <V453000> load them our pz save and melt their brains Ammler :p no mercy!
17:35:36  <Ammler> !info
17:35:36  <Nachtigall> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Veni, Vidi, WTF'  Year Founded: 2100  Money: 24472088489  Loan: 0  Value: 24486092797  (T:2573, R:2, P:0, S:0) unprotected
17:35:40  <V453000> k :D
17:35:53  <V453000> 2500 is OLD :P
17:47:09  <frosch123> !getsave http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/nocargoal20121111.sav
17:47:09  <Nachtigall> frosch123: OK :-)
17:48:41  <frosch123> !rcon load nocargoal20121111.sav
17:48:41  <Nachtigall> frosch123: nocargoal20121111.sav: No such file or directory.
17:48:52  <Ammler> !rcon pwd
17:48:52  <Nachtigall> Ammler: /home/ottdc/svn-nightly/autopilot/save/
17:48:56  <Ammler> !rcon ls
17:48:57  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 0) .. (Parent directory)
17:48:57  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 1) autosave/ (Directory)
17:48:57  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 2) uploads/ (Directory)
17:48:57  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 3) restart.sav
17:48:57  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 4) game.sav
17:48:58  <Nachtigall> Ammler: you have 3 more messages
17:49:02  <Ammler> !rcon cd 2
17:49:07  <Ammler> !rcon ls
17:49:07  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 0) .. (Parent directory)
17:49:07  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 1) nocargoal20121111.sav
17:49:07  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 2) game.sav
17:49:07  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 3) NoCarGoal-game2-2012-09-30.sav
17:49:07  <Nachtigall> Ammler: 4) Unnamed, 04-01-2009.sav
17:49:08  <Nachtigall> Ammler: you have 8 more messages
17:49:18  <frosch123>  !rcon load nocargoal20121111.sav
17:49:20  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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17:49:58  <Ammler> [2012-11-11 17:49:18] dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "", port 0, address family IPv6 and socket type udp failed: Name or service not known
17:49:59  <Ammler> dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "", port 0, address family IPv6 and socket type udp failed: Name or service not known
17:50:15  <V453000> !dl win64 bitch
17:50:16  <Nachtigall> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24677/openttd-trunk-r24677-windows-win64.zip
17:50:35  <frosch123> feel free to check the game setup
17:50:52  <frosch123> but we start at 21 cet afaik
17:51:20  <V453000> that FIRS isnt too official :D says version 0
17:51:30  <V453000> some rXXXX I assume? .)
17:51:36  <frosch123> [18:20] <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/0.8.0-test-1/
17:51:47  <V453000> alright :)
17:52:27  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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17:52:34  <Nachtigall> <V453000> tanks
17:53:22  <Zuu> !server
17:53:32  <Zuu> !ip
17:53:43  <frosch123> openttdcoop nightly
17:53:54  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has joined spectators
17:54:12  <Nachtigall> <V453000> nice to see that I am not the only one using WTF town names
17:54:26  <Nachtigall> <V453000> oh even NUTS :>
17:54:29  <frosch123> i choosed them because i read your document :p
17:54:35  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :D wow
17:54:38  <Nachtigall> <V453000> you did?
17:54:45  * andythenorth gets the right ottd version
17:54:45  <frosch123> the icelandic ones
17:54:49  <frosch123> i played nuts before
17:54:52  <andythenorth> then it's bath time :P
17:54:54  <Nachtigall> <V453000> well yeah I can see that  :)
17:55:12  <Nachtigall> <V453000> hehe yes you already talked about nuts before :)
17:55:13  <Zuu> Ah.. nightly.openttdcoop.org works better than the ip-address that I had set since before.
17:56:03  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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17:56:09  <Nachtigall> *** Unicorn has changed his/her name to Zuu
17:56:13  <Nachtigall> <V453000> omg an unicorn :P
17:56:15  <Nachtigall> *** Zuu has changed his/her name to Zuuu
17:56:16  <andythenorth> grr, my connection has gone stupidly slow again
17:56:26  <andythenorth> it was fine earlier :(
17:58:21  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings server
17:58:21  <Nachtigall> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
17:58:21  <Nachtigall> Ammler: network.server_port = 3981
17:58:21  <Nachtigall> Ammler: network.server_admin_port = 3976
17:58:21  <Nachtigall> Ammler: network.server_admin_chat = on
17:58:21  <Nachtigall> Ammler: network.server_advertise = on
17:58:24  <Nachtigall> Ammler: you have 4 more messages
18:05:25  <Nachtigall> <V453000> andythenorth: I guess you are aware of the weird ?? things appearing in the machine shop
18:05:54  <andythenorth> I am aware that some bugs seem to be present drawing sprites
18:06:03  <andythenorth> afaict, they are in things I haven't changed, which is...interesting
18:07:50  <V453000> :) yeah
18:08:06  <V453000> to say the least
18:10:28  <Nachtigall> <V453000> hm fertiliser plant has it as well
18:11:14  <Nachtigall> <V453000> k it is actually not rare at all
18:12:34  <frosch123> what kind of bugs?
18:13:20  <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
18:13:41  <andythenorth> either I have screwed up ground tiles....or I don't know what :P
18:13:51  <V453000> some tiles show the broken sprite - red "?"
18:14:13  <V453000> from what I noticed so far it is machine shop/fertiliser plant/metal fabrication/brickworks
18:14:22  <andythenorth> lime kiln too
18:14:30  <frosch123> what? i haven't seen any
18:14:48  <frosch123> you are using original gfx? right?
18:15:08  <andythenorth> I am
18:15:10  <andythenorth> I see them
18:15:18  <frosch123> i don't see them with ogfx
18:15:22  <frosch123> let me rejoin with original
18:15:23  <andythenorth> I haven't bisected to see if it's FIRS or ottd
18:15:28  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has left the game (leaving)
18:15:41  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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18:16:01  <frosch123> ah, maybe the ogfx question mark is just smaller
18:16:45  <frosch123> sprite 794
18:17:21  <frosch123> where is the ogfx spritesheet viewer?
18:18:41  <frosch123> that's an recolour sprite
18:19:48  <frosch123> even one of the weird unused recolour sprites :o
18:19:57  <Ammler> frosch123: not sure, if that viewer still works without grf2html :-)
18:20:10  <frosch123> it worked :)
18:20:21  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has left the game (leaving)
18:20:37  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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18:21:36  <Ammler> well, I meant our websciprt
18:22:12  <frosch123> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/authors/script.php?feature=spritesbyfile&q=ogfx1_base <- i used that one
18:24:38  <Ammler> well, as you seee, original sprites only
18:24:46  <Ammler> the opengfx refers to grf2html
18:26:13  <V453000> I think Ammler reported some blue "curves" with opengfx ... but a similar error to the normal graphics
18:29:13  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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18:33:39  <Ammler> !dl lin
18:33:39  <Nachtigall> Ammler: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24677/openttd-trunk-r24677-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz
18:35:33  <andythenorth> frosch123: can't reproduce this bug in ottd r24502
18:45:47  <andythenorth> I don't mind playing with the bug present
18:45:54  <andythenorth> but not free for another 1 hour or so
18:45:59  <andythenorth> :)
18:47:36  <frosch123> it's also present in ottd r24417
18:47:47  <frosch123> so, either firs, nml or really old ottd bug :)
18:48:39  <andythenorth> firs bug previously masked by ottd? :P
18:50:57  <V453000> well it isnt a massive bug :)
18:51:42  <frosch123> yeah, those remain to be found :p
18:55:02  <frosch123> it's a groundsprite
19:09:02  <andythenorth> FIRS issue?
19:09:25  <frosch123> there is a spritelayout, with groundsprite 0
19:09:33  <frosch123> but it also adds a registervalue to it
19:09:40  <frosch123> the register contains -14655
19:10:00  <frosch123> register 131
19:10:05  <frosch123> so, might be an nml issue
19:12:10  * andythenorth compiles older FIRS to check
19:13:02  <andythenorth> hmm
19:13:10  <andythenorth> can't compile older FIRS, makefile loops :
19:13:31  <frosch123> how do the climate specific groundtile swork?
19:13:51  <andythenorth> depends on whether they're migrated to python or not
19:13:57  <andythenorth> generally they're using hide sprites
19:14:38  <andythenorth> can't replicate this with FIRS r2900
19:14:48  <andythenorth> which is old-but-recent :P
19:15:11  <andythenorth> I might have broken something somewhere in FIRS
19:20:30  <andythenorth> yeah this is somewhere between 3100 and 3200
19:30:48  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:31:12  <andythenorth> ho
19:31:19  <andythenorth> let's see how long my connection holds
19:31:41  <andythenorth> as expected, with fewer industry types, a lot more industries of each type get built o_O
19:31:48  <andythenorth> this is better for GS challenges I guess
19:32:18  <andythenorth> "Look at all the farms!"
19:33:07  <frosch123> might also be the map :p
19:33:11  <frosch123> i choosed smooth
19:34:07  <andythenorth> iron ore, food, building materials
19:34:08  <andythenorth> ok
19:34:16  * andythenorth has to see about food and such, brb
19:36:19  <frosch123> what should we start with?
19:36:29  <andythenorth> pax always
19:36:30  <frosch123> pax? or directly iore or quarry?
19:36:32  <andythenorth> money maker
19:38:55  <andythenorth> need 2 big cities
19:39:01  <andythenorth> can't find any obviously big ones :P
19:40:11  <frosch123> well, we could go for the really long hella breiodalsvik
19:40:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Breiðdalsvík: + Vestmannaeyjar to Patreksfjörður + Borgarnes?
19:40:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there are 2 at one end, 3 at the other all large ish
19:40:45  <frosch123> yeah, that's a bit of a shorter route
19:40:53  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> try that?
19:40:56  <frosch123> so, when to start?
19:40:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> should make money
19:42:17  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> start in 5 mins or so ?
19:42:23  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
19:42:23  <Nachtigall> *** V453000 joined the game
19:42:27  <Nachtigall> <V453000> o/
19:43:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I wouldnt be too sure about passengers, I think making goods/food is still the most profittable way with firs
19:46:01  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they're secondary cargos though
19:46:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> need a money maker to build the network to get them ;)
19:46:32  <frosch123> i set most cost to quite cheap though :)
19:46:55  <Nachtigall> <V453000> nuts has cheap trains by default already, too :P
19:47:13  <frosch123> yay, i love the string fitler in the settings :p
19:47:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> well goods and food are highest paying
19:47:33  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
19:47:37  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> gold is present
19:47:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that's wrong :P
19:48:10  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I think you can easily reach highest profittability through goods/food/BM early on ... usually not too good for future as you do not have supplies though, but I guess playing with GS means fuck supplies as you play for short time
19:48:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we'll need supplies
19:48:32  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we won't make target without them :)
19:48:44  <Nachtigall> <V453000> refit it is then
19:49:03  <Nachtigall> <V453000> no supplying mechanism is more powerful than that, from those I know
19:49:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> last time we tried, autorefit was broken btw
19:49:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> nobody figured out why
19:49:40  <Nachtigall> <V453000> im not talking about autorefit, autorefit is dumb
19:49:58  <Nachtigall> <V453000> also NUTS doesnt support it for the same reasons
19:50:08  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> refit at stations / autorefit / whatever we call it
19:50:18  <Nachtigall> <V453000> refit stations :) in depots
19:50:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> time to start?
19:50:41  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has joined company #1
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19:50:43  <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
19:51:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> make a station that I can connect a dock to
19:51:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for transfer in
19:51:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> nvm
19:51:42  <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has started a new company (#2)
19:52:28  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah
19:52:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> this is not new FISH
19:52:32  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> nvm :)
19:52:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000> ancient swedish rails too :P
19:52:55  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> bananas fish
19:53:05  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> also bananas rails
19:53:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there is a newer one, FISH 2
19:53:13  <Nachtigall> <V453000> bananas rails are like 0.8.0
19:54:31  <frosch123> !rcon set order.no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns 1
19:58:15  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (general timeout)
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19:58:33  <andythenorth> bad connection sorry
19:59:36  <Nachtigall> <V453000> the intercity trains might be a bit more effective for your purposes :P
19:59:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's fun that chips is so broken :P
20:00:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> flashy flashy sprites
20:01:42  <Nachtigall> <V453000> oh wow :D
20:01:50  <Nachtigall> <V453000> the buildings are going wild
20:01:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yup :P
20:01:58  <Nachtigall> <V453000> is that toyland buildings actually?
20:02:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I thought yexo fixed that :)
20:03:17  <frosch123> so, food or building supplies?
20:03:25  <frosch123> or iore?
20:03:37  <Nachtigall> <V453000> METAL :D (which is probably completely useless for the goals)
20:05:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> iore
20:05:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then make supplies from metal
20:05:52  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I can give you supplies or you can even buy my company
20:08:12  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frosch - start anywhere - I am eating a pie right now ;)
20:08:48  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> nw looks good
20:10:14  <Nachtigall> <V453000> oooh enhanced production
20:10:23  <Nachtigall> <V453000> so hardcore
20:10:26  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
20:10:41  <Nachtigall> <V453000> produces 3t less than the one with normal :|
20:11:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> see, that's the industry production randomisation code at work :)
20:11:27  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :D
20:11:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I had to write a cb for ottd to get that
20:11:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's one of my 3 patches :P
20:11:49  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
20:12:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the way the production varies will really screw with your network
20:12:33  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I like that
20:12:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000> bring it!
20:13:45  <Nachtigall> <V453000> k it is truly enhanced now :>
20:14:43  <Nachtigall> <V453000> ooooh weight multiplier
20:14:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000>  /facepalm
20:16:17  <Nachtigall> <V453000> too much ES :>
20:18:03  <Nachtigall> <V453000> ühm
20:18:17  <Nachtigall> <V453000> the industries are flickering with pax commuter 1 wagons :D
20:18:24  <Nachtigall> <V453000> fun
20:20:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> why bridge a river?
20:20:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> just bulldoze :P
20:20:46  <Nachtigall> <V453000> costs something
20:20:53  <Nachtigall> <V453000> hm not much :D
20:20:55  <Nachtigall> <V453000> still :)
20:28:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frosch are you going to haul metal back to the machine shop?
20:28:37  <frosch123> nope
20:28:42  <frosch123> too complex for me :p
20:28:45  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll do it
20:34:15  <Nachtigall> <V453000> no ES yet? :P
20:35:58  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> meh
20:36:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> seaplanes won't start :P
20:36:22  <Nachtigall> <V453000> LOL ES planes
20:36:28  <Nachtigall> <V453000> not batteries :(
20:43:05  <frosch123> looks like food next
20:44:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains are not powerful enough :P
20:44:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more power :P
20:44:23  <Nachtigall> <V453000> some stupid weight multiplier is a hint :)
20:44:29  <Nachtigall> <V453000> or use SUPERSTRONG class :P
20:44:32  <frosch123> add more engines
20:44:36  <frosch123> more engine are fun
20:46:43  <Nachtigall> <V453000> lol well using 2x FAST for a 7 tile train is not exactly enough :)
20:46:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 3 might do it :P
20:46:57  <Nachtigall> <V453000> no
20:47:01  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> meh
20:47:03  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
20:47:15  <Nachtigall> <V453000> oooh ass
20:47:18  <Nachtigall> <V453000> forgot something
20:47:19  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
20:56:06  <Nachtigall> <V453000> idiots
20:56:06  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ooooops
20:56:12  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
20:56:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> these trains are better
20:56:45  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
20:56:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000> that is for sure
21:02:57  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how are we doing? :P
21:03:12  <Nachtigall> <V453000> BM goal looks impossible
21:03:34  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> that is the only one andy and me might make
21:03:44  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I will have only iore
21:03:51  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I have that already in fact
21:03:54  <Nachtigall> <V453000> 98%
21:04:04  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> 48 iore, 51 building
21:04:11  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so we might fail at all :p
21:06:29  <Nachtigall> <V453000> 20% BM
21:06:31  <Nachtigall> <V453000> guess not :D
21:13:02  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> one year to go
21:15:54  <Nachtigall> <V453000> gg im done :)
21:16:06  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> did you win? :P
21:16:12  <Nachtigall> <V453000> just one thing
21:16:24  <Nachtigall> <V453000> honestly this format of game is stupidly short :(
21:16:26  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Iron ore?
21:16:45  <frosch123> we are explicitly set it to only last one evening :p
21:16:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> iron ore
21:16:57  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Maybe a format of game with 2 hour periods that can be played over several days?
21:17:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I like the intensity of this :)
21:17:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> needs more players though
21:17:32  <frosch123> 85%, 81%, 7 months to go :s
21:17:35  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> 1-2 cargos are added each day.
21:18:25  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> I didn't notice that you started until now :-)
21:19:47  <frosch123> 92%, 88%, we might have a chance :)
21:19:47  <Nachtigall> <V453000> see orders on my wood trains :P
21:20:05  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have to end of 1947?
21:20:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or is there a date bug with this GS?
21:20:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> one of them finished early iirc
21:20:15  <frosch123> no, that bug is still not fixed :p
21:20:19  <frosch123> it is begin of 1947
21:20:27  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> It should be fixed in version 4
21:20:33  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> or 5 or whatever the last version is...
21:20:41  <frosch123> so, did something fail at my client?
21:20:49  <frosch123> i updated everything from bananas
21:20:59  <frosch123> but everyone complains i used old stuff :p
21:21:06  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :P
21:21:44  <Nachtigall> <V453000> we just noted it not complained :)
21:22:54  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> hmm, 4 is the last version. Well, I attempted to fix it and it looked like I was able to fix it locally, but I don't know which version you run.
21:23:22  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> But if you configured 7 years in the config, it will end at the end of this year in both version 3 and 4.
21:23:36  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> (given that you started 1940)
21:23:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> text says end of 1947
21:23:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> in goal window
21:23:52  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i set it to 7 years
21:23:58  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> news mesage should count down in reverse?
21:24:25  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> News message don't count down. It could do. The SCP message to AIs contain a "days left" field.
21:24:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> \o/
21:24:53  <frosch123> silver :)
21:25:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
21:25:09  <frosch123> so, at least our timing was good :p
21:25:10  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I spent first 2 years eating dinner :P
21:25:23  <frosch123> food at 12 %
21:25:37  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
21:25:45  <frosch123> you saw the food cluster?
21:25:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> looping iron ore etc back into supplies
21:26:00  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> is dangerous
21:26:12  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> game over :D
21:26:15  <Nachtigall> <V453000> :)
21:26:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> still fun :)
21:26:31  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> smaller FIRS is better for GS right?
21:26:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> less confusing?
21:26:52  <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> a less complicated FIRS is good for short games
21:26:52  <Nachtigall> <V453000> smaller firs?
21:27:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> this is a 'basic' economy
21:27:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> check minimap
21:27:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> only 32 or so industries, 20 cargos
21:27:17  <Nachtigall> <V453000> I was wondering
21:27:23  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> compared to usual 49 industries, 31 cargos
21:28:37  <Nachtigall> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving)
21:28:43  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> any other comments before we go?
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21:29:04  <V453000> guess not :D
21:29:06  <frosch123> it was nocargoal version 3
21:29:21  <Zuu> good, then my fix can still be correct :-)
21:29:34  <frosch123> the content gui is broken
21:29:45  <frosch123> nocargoal 4 is available, but "select upgrades" is greyed
21:30:07  <frosch123> it is not selected
21:30:30  <andythenorth> did you install it locally originally?
21:30:43  <andythenorth> i have same issue, but my NoCarGoal is download + manual install
21:30:47  <frosch123> oh, you mean the server does not have the newest
21:30:49  <Zuu> hmm, I think it may be because I used an exploit in bananas when I uploaded it. I really should get a version 5 up that doesn't use that exploit.
21:31:03  <frosch123> that's likely, since it loads the game anyway
21:31:09  <frosch123> but, my client doesn't have it either
21:31:16  <andythenorth> frosch123: you didn't see FISH 2 either?
21:31:22  <frosch123> Zuu: yeah, update is broken :)
21:31:36  <Zuu> With the exploit I can keep the short name in a global variable, but I guess it causes trouble with OpenTTD. So I guess I have to live with having my short name in two places.
21:31:43  <frosch123> andythenorth: i only downloaded upgrades :)
21:31:45  <Zuu> Its not like it change a lot...
21:31:50  <frosch123> fish 2 is a new thing, no upgrade
21:31:53  <andythenorth> yes
21:31:56  <andythenorth> nvm
21:31:58  <frosch123> i don't have it at all
21:33:26  <andythenorth> it's limited to some rev of ottd
21:33:43  <andythenorth> but older than 24677
21:33:53  <andythenorth> 24530
21:36:54  <andythenorth> anyway, that was fun
21:37:27  <Zuu> frosch123: NoCarGoal 5 was just uploaded. Now with the short name given so that both bananas and OpenTTD understands it.
21:38:23  <frosch123> yup, now it gets selected
21:38:59  <frosch123> !rcon content update
21:39:13  <frosch123> !rcon content upgrade
21:39:23  <frosch123> !rcon content download
21:39:24  <Nachtigall> frosch123: Downloading 4 file(s) (209777 bytes)
21:39:53  <frosch123> ready for next time :)
21:41:50  <andythenorth> next time: 2050
21:41:57  <andythenorth> speed + power :P
21:42:06  <andythenorth> GS makes me appreciate maglev
21:42:51  <Zuu> I played NUTS recently. In 1950 IIRC and had medium engines at 150 km/h.
21:43:34  <frosch123> Zuu: i set freight multiplier to 5
21:43:42  <andythenorth> which is...fun
21:43:44  <frosch123> and andy refused to attach multiple engines to long trains or so
21:43:45  <Zuu> oh
21:43:59  <andythenorth> I didn't refuse :P
21:44:09  <andythenorth> I just didn't know you'd done freight multiplier :P
21:44:14  * andythenorth likes long trains
21:44:22  <frosch123> i always do freight multiplier
21:44:25  <andythenorth> usually I get yelled at for multiple engines and long trains :P
21:44:35  <andythenorth> we need 12 tiles or so
21:44:36  <frosch123> long trains with only one engine look silly
21:44:49  <andythenorth> big trains makes station placement more of a challenge
21:45:58  <andythenorth> next time...
21:46:05  <andythenorth> hmm
21:46:14  <andythenorth> is bulldozing rivers considered bad style? :P
21:47:10  <Zuu> yes
21:47:23  * Zuu always bridge them
21:47:33  <andythenorth> way more practical to bulldoze
21:47:36  <andythenorth> :)
21:47:42  <andythenorth> it's only 10k or so
21:48:52  <Zuu> With a signal distance of 5 you can have up to 4 tile long bridges without creating a bottle neck.
21:51:16  <Zuu> Anyway, with non-infinite powered engines, it get into interesting situations when you need a longer bridge/tunnel to positionate the bottle neck where it gives the least impact.
21:52:11  <andythenorth> I worry about the effect of the slope on speed
21:52:52  <andythenorth> anyway, bed time
21:53:10  <andythenorth> Zuu: if the bugs are fixed in v4 / v5, then it's pretty perfect I think
21:53:51  <Zuu> it could have a count down for humans etc. but at least it should now give a correct ETA on when the game ends.
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21:54:50  <andythenorth> _could_ also try and build industries if there is a shortage of a needed cargo on the map?
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21:55:24  <Zuu> That is a possibility
21:55:49  <Zuu> Needs time to figure out which conditions to use and to program that. :-)
21:56:22  <Zuu> But it could be a good idea in some situations.
21:57:05  <andythenorth> count up total of cargo x produced per month
21:57:13  <andythenorth> if it's not enough to make the goal, try funding?
21:57:16  <andythenorth> or such
21:57:16  <andythenorth> dunno
21:57:23  <andythenorth> industry newgrfs are quite unpredictable
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21:59:22  <frosch123> why not let the player fund them :p
22:01:26  <andythenorth> simpler :)
22:01:34  <andythenorth> frosch123: did you log the results of this game in your table?
22:01:42  <frosch123> sure
22:01:54  <frosch123> i had to edit it like 10 times
22:01:58  <frosch123> dozen of typos :p
22:02:02  <andythenorth> if we had 3 players, we probably would have got gold
22:02:21  <frosch123> i think you need one player per cargo
22:02:26  <andythenorth> yarp
22:02:29  <andythenorth> I did only iron ore
22:02:30  <frosch123> for ncg it is important to start all cargos early
22:02:54  <andythenorth> with new FIRS supplies, you can get big production fast, but really have to watch for network trouble
22:02:57  <frosch123> even the small food network i built would have managed the goal if started early enough
22:03:13  <frosch123> i did not build any supplies at all :p
22:03:46  <frosch123> i build a clay route over the whole map tram+ship+rail
22:03:55  <andythenorth> I put a few supplies into building materials
22:04:04  <frosch123> while the farm cluster was only tram :p
22:04:18  <andythenorth> he
22:04:29  <frosch123> i like how different the industry types are
22:04:48  <frosch123> wrt. their transportation requirements
22:04:58  <andythenorth> good
22:06:48  * andythenorth -> bed ;)
22:06:51  <andythenorth> good night
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22:18:42  <Dom_> !password
22:19:24  <Dom_> !download
22:19:24  <Nachtigall> Dom_: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
22:19:24  <Ammler> Dom_: this is not .pro anymore
22:19:45  <Ammler> !info
22:19:45  <Nachtigall> Ammler: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'Brown & Co.'  Year Founded: 1940  Money: 4912055  Loan: 0  Value: 7674875  (T:61, R:83, P:10, S:19) unprotected
22:19:45  <Nachtigall> Ammler: #:2(Orange) Company Name: 'V453000 Transport'  Year Founded: 1940  Money: 6585477  Loan: 500000  Value: 8446223  (T:110, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
22:19:52  <frosch123> the game is finished
22:20:00  <frosch123> you can only join to watch the result
22:20:09  <frosch123> it's not possible to continue playing
22:20:29  <frosch123> and the password is to know the correct firs download link :p
22:20:37  <Dom_> yeah i just wanted to take a look
22:20:38  <Ammler> :-)
22:20:53  <Ammler> firs you need from bundles.o.o
22:21:12  <frosch123> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/0.8.0-test-1/
22:21:56  <V453000> I knew that pro zone swap to here will cause confusion :P
22:21:56  <Dom_> thats not the problem you are playing a weird nightly version
22:22:03  <Dom_> that is not availible
22:22:18  <V453000> it is? !dl
22:22:23  <Dom_> !dl
22:22:23  <Nachtigall> Dom_: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
22:22:31  <frosch123> !dl win32
22:22:31  <Nachtigall> frosch123: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24677/openttd-trunk-r24677-windows-win32.zip
22:22:32  <frosch123> !dl win64
22:22:33  <Nachtigall> frosch123: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24677/openttd-trunk-r24677-windows-win64.zip
22:22:37  <Dom_> !dl mac
22:22:37  <Nachtigall> Dom_: unknown option "mac"
22:22:45  <frosch123> !dl osx
22:22:45  <Nachtigall> frosch123: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24677/openttd-trunk-r24677-macosx-universal.zip
22:22:58  <Dom_> thanks :)
22:25:11  <Ammler> hmm, we really should make a autopilot custom commands collection
22:25:32  <Ammler> but I always thought, it isn't worth since ap+ is depreciated :-)
22:25:49  <Nachtigall> *** Dom joined the game
22:25:49  <Ammler> but it is now depreciated for 3? years
22:25:51  <Nachtigall> <Dom> hello
22:26:10  <frosch123> Ammler: sounds like ap+ is a temporary solution
22:26:19  <Ammler> yes :-)
22:26:40  <Ammler> !content
22:26:40  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Connection established
22:26:40  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Downloading 3 file(s) (34938 bytes)
22:26:40  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Completed download of 606
22:26:40  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Completed download of 970
22:26:40  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] Completed download of 1025
22:26:42  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] All 3 downloaded
22:26:42  <Nachtigall> Ammler: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded)
22:28:38  <Ammler> I also didn't get it working on debian anymore
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