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Log for #openttdcoop.pro on 18th August 2010:
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12:34:09  <Chris_Booth> V453000: have you turned town growth on yet?
12:34:20  <Chris_Booth> !password
12:34:20  <ProZone> Chris_Booth: filler
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12:36:06  <ProZone> <V453000> hi
12:36:06  <ProZone> <V453000> not yet
12:36:08  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> hi
12:36:38  <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 2
12:37:05  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> V453000: how are your transfer stations going to work?
12:37:08  <ProZone> <V453000> we will see
12:37:55  <ProZone> <V453000> although it is a pretty normal SRNW
12:38:05  <ProZone> <V453000> if you wanted to hear that :)
12:38:15  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> thats isnt the part is am worried about
12:38:26  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> its the PF traps
12:38:38  <ProZone> <V453000> why
12:38:48  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> are they not wrong?
12:38:54  <ProZone> <V453000> why would they
12:39:36  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> i just can't see how they are going to turn trains arround
12:39:51  <ProZone> <V453000> we will see
12:40:13  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> and i cant see how they are going to stop trains from waiting at stations that dont need them
12:40:31  <ProZone> <V453000> you will see when it is done
12:40:35  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
12:40:56  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> until then i will still doubt that they will work
12:41:08  <ProZone> <V453000> good with me
12:44:26  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> TL12 ML?
12:44:43  <ProZone> <V453000> 12?
12:44:49  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> 12
12:44:59  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> this is jap set low capacity
12:45:09  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> and CL is still 2 even with 12
12:45:22  <ProZone> <V453000> hm well
12:45:32  <ProZone> <V453000> okay
12:59:37  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> where is your main station going?
12:59:43  <ProZone> <V453000> will see
12:59:57  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> that isnt much help
13:00:01  <ProZone> <V453000> I dont know yet
13:00:03  <ProZone> <V453000> why
13:00:05  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> when i am trying to bring the ML
13:00:25  <ProZone> <V453000> well why to bring it when I dont have it yet :)
13:00:44  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> that why i wanted to know where it was going
13:01:03  <ProZone> <V453000> thats why I dont know yet :p
13:01:10  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> as you are an idiot
13:01:14  <ProZone> <V453000> sure
13:14:48  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> now you see the issue?
13:15:04  <ProZone> <V453000> I have tested it somehow but dont remember how :)
13:34:42  <ProZone> <V453000> hi
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14:57:03  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> V453000: you finished your area?
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15:48:30  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> V453000: your orders on your sbanh are wrong
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15:58:00  <^Spike^> Chris_Booth why did you start his sbahn in the first place
15:58:07  <^Spike^> if you see the orders you know he's not ready
15:58:12  <^Spike^> there aren't even transfer trains
15:58:37  <^Spike^> and putting the town around part 11 of his SBahn might've also been better
15:58:42  <^Spike^> since that is more central then 16
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16:27:55  <ProZone> <V453000> ':(
16:28:05  <ProZone> <V453000> sry was gone
16:29:11  <ProZone> <V453000> Chris Booth: why the hurry?
16:29:33  <ProZone> <V453000> hmm gone far away :)
16:33:04  <ProZone> <Spike> going to make my sbahn more balanced :)
16:33:10  <ProZone> <Spike> giving all tracks the choice
16:33:24  <ProZone> <Spike> i removed all the sbahn trains he made btw
16:33:30  <ProZone> <Spike> and just put 1 back in the depot
16:33:32  <ProZone> <V453000> yea
16:33:36  <ProZone> <V453000> thank you
16:33:50  <ProZone> <Spike> also look where he placed the town
16:33:52  <ProZone> <Spike> near 16
16:33:58  <ProZone> <Spike> instead of near 11 more central
16:34:00  <ProZone> <V453000> I am going to place there many towns anyway
16:34:10  <ProZone> <Spike> look at my town :)
16:34:12  <ProZone> <Spike> just 1 town :D
16:34:15  <ProZone> <Spike> completely full :)
16:34:17  <ProZone> <V453000> so he is just an idiot but not dangerous :p
16:34:19  <ProZone> <Spike> beat that ;)
16:34:45  <ProZone> <V453000> I dont really care about town size :)
16:34:59  <ProZone> <V453000> I rather need as balanced amount of pax for each row as possible
16:36:46  <ProZone> <V453000> if he actually hurried for a reason, but he does it and leaves
16:38:15  <ProZone> <Spike> now to go for the last balancer.. :)
16:55:50  <Razaekel> !dl win64
16:55:50  <ProZone> Razaekel: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20279/openttd-trunk-r20279-windows-win64.zip
16:57:49  <ProZone> <Spike> seems my trains balance more now :)
16:58:00  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
16:59:15  <Razaekel> !passowrd
16:59:18  <Razaekel> !password
16:59:18  <ProZone> Razaekel: sloths
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16:59:31  <ProZone> <Razaekel> wth
16:59:33  <ProZone> <V453000> hi
16:59:47  <ProZone> <Spike> ?
17:00:15  <ProZone> <Razaekel> aotani is crazy
17:00:28  <ProZone> <Razaekel> mustve been done by V4
17:00:52  <ProZone> <V453000> nooo :P
17:02:01  <ProZone> <Spike> raz if you want.. pick a spot.. make your sbahn/town :)
17:02:09  <ProZone> <Razaekel> pass
17:02:11  <ProZone> <Razaekel> i dont like pax
17:02:15  <ProZone> <Spike> ..... :)
17:02:21  <ProZone> <Spike> me neither but i still build :D
17:02:47  <ProZone> <V453000> picky bastards :P
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17:08:33  <ProZone> <V453000> DONE :D
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17:30:32  <ProZone> <V453000> haha flaw :)
17:30:35  <ProZone> <V453000> thought so :)
17:34:31  <V453000> !rcon set yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty
17:34:31  <ProZone> V453000: Current value for 'yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty' is: '1500' (min: 0, max: 1000000)
17:34:36  <V453000> !rcon set yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 5000
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17:35:23  <V453000> !rcon set yapf.rail_pbs_signal_back_penalty 2500
17:51:57  <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 4
17:54:54  <ProZone> <V453000> haha now I have one happy ICE
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18:10:51  <ProZone> <Spike> i love experimental joiners :)
18:10:59  <ProZone> <Spike> just shame the accel is a bit low on these trains :)
18:11:09  <ProZone> <V453000> low?
18:11:09  <ProZone> <V453000> this?
18:11:27  <ProZone> <V453000> hmm nothing awesome :)
18:11:55  <Chris_Booth> !password
18:11:55  <ProZone> Chris_Booth: skinny
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18:12:07  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> hellp
18:12:09  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> o
18:12:19  <ProZone> <V453000> hi...
18:12:29  <ProZone> <V453000> why the hurry here?
18:12:35  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> you finish your orders V453000?#
18:12:38  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> what hurry?
18:12:52  <ProZone> <V453000> you sending my trains to the Sbahn unfinished?
18:12:56  <ProZone> <V453000> just "because" ?
18:13:22  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> i didnt realise they where unfinished until they started to move
18:13:36  <ProZone> <V453000> then how come you tell me the orders are wrong
18:14:06  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> they where at that point in time
18:14:12  <ProZone> <V453000> ok
18:14:22  <ProZone> <V453000> then why do you send trains when you consider them wrong
18:14:39  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> i didnt look at every order befor i sent them out
18:14:43  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> i made 50 trains
18:14:49  <ProZone> <Chris Booth>  sent them out
18:14:55  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> then realised
18:15:01  <ProZone> <V453000> then dont touch them when you have no clue
18:15:08  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> brb dinner
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18:28:27  <ProZone> <Spike> got a train with more power :)
18:28:41  <ProZone> <Spike> so.. replace time.. :)
18:31:32  <^Spike^> this is gonna take a while :D
18:40:02  <ProZone> <V453000> well more power, less capacity :p
18:40:20  <ProZone> <V453000> hard to say what is more effective :)
18:40:31  <ProZone> <Spike> i prefer less jams on my joiners :D
18:40:38  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
18:45:27  <ProZone> <V453000> plus we rarely use these red guys which is cool to use them now :)
18:46:01  <ProZone> <Spike> 4 trains and the ice is full :)
18:46:15  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
18:46:46  <ProZone> <Spike> and just look my sbahn has the ice station loaded up again already :)
18:47:02  <ProZone> <V453000> bought some ICE trains
18:52:53  <ProZone> <Spike> i still like the experimental joiner :)
18:53:09  <ProZone> <V453000> what is so experimental there?
18:53:15  <ProZone> <Spike> it prob has some flaws... but it is a good way to balance all to all
18:53:25  <ProZone> <Spike> well that's what we've called it that game.. and still call it that way :D
18:53:33  <ProZone> <Spike> got a better name for it? ;0
18:53:35  <ProZone> <Spike> ;)
18:53:38  <ProZone> <V453000> oh
18:53:40  <ProZone> <V453000> lol :)
18:53:52  <ProZone> <Spike> but it's a nice any->any joiner :)
18:54:08  <ProZone> <Spike> prob needs some psb with more lanes.. but well :)
18:54:10  <ProZone> <V453000> sure
18:54:12  <ProZone> <V453000> oh
18:54:18  <ProZone> <V453000> hmm not sure about psb :)
18:54:26  <ProZone> <Spike> was used in that game :0
18:54:30  <ProZone> <Spike> we had it 5 lanes wide :)
18:54:52  <ProZone> <V453000> well
18:54:56  <ProZone> <V453000> just make it a tridnet
18:54:59  <ProZone> <V453000> trident
18:55:21  <ProZone> <V453000> for each choice
18:55:37  <ProZone> <V453000> should be easy there :)
18:55:44  <ProZone> <Spike> nah... i like it as it is now :)
18:55:52  <ProZone> <V453000> hmm these trains need CL3 anyway
18:55:54  <ProZone> <V453000> instead of 2
18:56:09  <ProZone> <V453000> but Maybe ... :)
18:56:40  <ProZone> <V453000> no its fine :(
18:56:42  <ProZone> <Spike> :)
18:56:44  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
18:56:57  <ProZone> <V453000> I thought they go 280
18:57:09  <ProZone> <V453000> but even that would probably be fine :D
18:57:18  <ProZone> <Spike> and as you see less jams cause faster accel :)
18:57:26  <ProZone> <V453000> ofc :)
18:58:18  <ProZone> <Spike> what did you bomb.... ;)
18:58:24  <ProZone> <V453000> just a CL test
18:59:55  <ProZone> <Spike> my sbahn is pretty efficient... :)
18:59:58  <ProZone> <Spike> ok not 100% :)
19:00:00  <ProZone> <Spike> but not bad :)
19:00:02  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
19:00:52  <ProZone> <Spike> you need 44 ice trains to keep up with my sbahn xD
19:01:06  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
19:02:25  <ProZone> <Spike> the joiner is optimized for TL3 btw :D
19:02:32  <ProZone> <Spike> never tried it on larger TLs :)
19:02:48  <ProZone> <V453000> well that is obvious :)
19:03:16  <ProZone> <Spike> it would be possible on larger ones i guess
19:03:22  <ProZone> <V453000> sure
19:03:28  <ProZone> <V453000> just a bit adjusted
19:03:38  <ProZone> <V453000> but the pattern definitely works
19:05:22  <ProZone> <Spike> there smaller :)
19:05:40  <ProZone> <V453000> use both 2ways
19:05:40  <ProZone> <Spike> i prob also can keep it on 1 line if i want to :)
19:05:50  <ProZone> <V453000> PBS breaks otherwise :p
19:06:08  <ProZone> <Spike> ah
19:06:38  <ProZone> <Spike> but i guess i can also keep the stuff straight instead of shifting 1 line over... :) but well :)
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19:27:27  <ProZone> <V453000> hahaaa :D my srnw fails badly
19:27:33  <ProZone> <V453000> needs better throughput :)
19:27:41  <ProZone> <V453000> station are way not enough :)
19:43:53  <ProZone> <Spike> you made like 20 towns... :)
19:43:55  <ProZone> <Spike> lame.. :)
19:44:01  <ProZone> <V453000> I need balance
19:44:03  <ProZone> <Spike> i atleast did it with 1 ;)
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21:21:18  <ProZone> <Spike> something wrong? :)
21:21:24  <ProZone> <V453000> the stations werent enough
21:21:33  <ProZone> <Spike> the srnw part didn;t work? :)
21:21:38  <ProZone> <V453000> pretty much
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21:33:10  <ProZone> <Spike> i really was hoping the someone who would be building main station would see the damn big vally on the NE of my sbahn transfer...
21:33:22  <ProZone> <Spike> but seems... i was the only one see a place for a station there
21:33:40  <ProZone> <V453000> ?
21:33:51  <ProZone> <Spike> see sign
21:33:58  <ProZone> <V453000> oh :)
21:34:04  <ProZone> <Spike> can't expand my sbahn now
21:34:06  <ProZone> <V453000> "someone" had to fucking hurry
21:34:16  <ProZone> <V453000> "someone" is getting on my nerves pretty hard
21:34:18  <ProZone> <Spike> cause the damn station is RIGHT NEXT to my sbahn transfer :(
21:36:15  <Chris_Booth> !password
21:36:15  <ProZone> Chris_Booth: engulf
21:36:45  <Chris_Booth> "someone" is in the channel
21:36:48  <Chris_Booth> !password
21:36:48  <ProZone> Chris_Booth: yearns
21:36:53  <ProZone> <V453000> "someone" should hear that
21:37:16  <Chris_Booth> what that you are a dick?
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21:37:27  <ProZone> <V453000> exactly
21:40:04  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> why not just closer the ML
21:40:56  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> was i the only one to get a message?
21:42:35  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> japan train set error message
21:42:55  <ProZone> <V453000> 485 series EMU
21:43:01  <ProZone> <V453000> Kirishima...
21:43:04  <Chris_Booth> that one yes
21:43:13  <Chris_Booth> may fail to autoreplace
21:44:08  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> sprite provides incorect information
21:46:25  <SmatZ> that's newgrf bug
21:46:35  <SmatZ> OpenTTD informs that the newgrf is broken
21:46:43  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> this is an old new grf
21:47:12  <Chris_Booth> we run 2 beta8
21:47:16  <Chris_Booth> and 2.1 is out
21:47:22  <ProZone> <V453000> yes which sucks
21:47:32  <ProZone> <V453000> japanese TBRS doesnt work with it
21:47:50  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> what v2.1a?
21:47:50  <SmatZ> hmm
21:47:55  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> or 2 beta8?
21:48:13  <ProZone> <V453000> TBRS doesnt work with the newest one, 2.1a
21:48:23  <ProZone> <V453000> as long as you want shinkansens on maglev
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21:48:37  <SmatZ> welcome back, planetmaker
21:48:45  <planetmaker> :-) thanks
21:48:47  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> that does suck as on monorail it is slower than a snail
21:48:59  <ProZone> <V453000> inded
21:49:01  <ProZone> <V453000> e
21:49:31  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> and the rail grf is still wrong IMO it still needs overhead wires
21:49:43  <ProZone> <V453000> screw that
21:49:45  <ProZone> <V453000> it works
21:50:09  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> it works
22:07:47  <ProZone> <Chris Booth> V453000: you trying to see the difference between the 500 and n700?
22:07:57  <ProZone> <V453000> no
22:07:59  <ProZone> <V453000> this is finished :)
22:08:17  <ProZone> <V453000> but yes, the difference is key
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22:15:01  <ProZone> <Spike> eh... why are all ice trains depoed
22:15:08  <ProZone> <V453000> dont ask me
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22:16:48  <ProZone> <Spike> just removed 24 of them btw
22:17:22  <ProZone> <V453000> prepare for total shitload of pax when I finish this :p
22:17:33  <ProZone> <Spike> btw... why are you using dummies...
22:17:38  <ProZone> <V453000> why not
22:17:39  <ProZone> <Spike> looking at your sbahn you don't need them
22:17:55  <ProZone> <V453000> well
22:17:58  <ProZone> <Spike> cause you have 20k pax waiting at each transfer?
22:18:13  <ProZone> <Spike> and the chance of TL6 trains getting that away
22:18:15  <ProZone> <V453000> cause it is running for few years without transfering? :D
22:18:15  <ProZone> <Spike> is like..
22:18:17  <ProZone> <Spike> eh...
22:18:28  <ProZone> <Spike> 5%
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22:28:39  <ProZone> <Spike> think you deleted too much orders
22:28:43  <ProZone> <Spike> :)
22:28:50  <ProZone> <V453000> ?
22:29:17  <ProZone> <Spike> 456
22:29:59  <ProZone> <V453000> ugh :D
22:33:36  <ProZone> <Spike> where is the 123 transfer btw?
22:33:46  <ProZone> <V453000> will be in the end
22:33:52  <ProZone> <Spike> ah
22:33:52  <ProZone> <V453000> somhow
22:33:56  <ProZone> <Spike> :)
22:38:48  <ProZone> <V453000> look :p
22:38:54  <ProZone> <V453000> the pax is decreasing
22:39:05  <ProZone> <V453000> with full stations usage
22:39:24  <ProZone> <V453000> of course, not transfering :) but that doesnt matter
22:39:54  <ProZone> <V453000> The Sbahn will probably make a bit more in the end too though :)
22:47:39  <ProZone> <V453000> :)
22:47:42  <ProZone> <V453000> I will finish this tomorrow
22:47:45  <ProZone> <V453000> need to sleep some :)
22:47:47  <ProZone> <V453000> cyaz
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