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00:18:01 *** ODM has quit IRC 00:56:24 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 09:52:34 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:52:34 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 09:53:51 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 09:56:57 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:56:58 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 09:57:26 <V453000> !unpause 09:57:26 <ProZone> *** V453000 has unpaused the server. 09:57:28 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:03:26 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00012E80: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00012E80.png 10:06:46 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00016986: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00016986.png 10:06:57 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 10:06:57 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:07:19 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:07:19 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:07:19 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 10:09:06 <V453000> @stage Cleaning up what XeryusTC caused 10:09:06 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop ProZone | PZG15 (r22148) | STAGE: Cleaning up what XeryusTC caused | visit www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PZ_game_ideas | Members, please note invites on our "list"" 10:10:06 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00016B86: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00016B86.png 10:13:02 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 10:13:04 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:13:27 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001207E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001207E.png 10:18:56 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:18:56 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:18:56 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 10:21:01 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 10:21:03 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:21:20 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:21:20 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:21:20 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 10:23:27 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000100C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000100C.png 10:23:48 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 10:23:50 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:25:10 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:25:11 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 10:25:26 <ProZone> *** V453000 has joined company #1 10:25:26 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 10:30:07 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0002BF7F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0002BF7F.png 10:30:17 <V453000> !auto 10:30:17 <ProZone> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 10:30:19 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:30:25 <V453000> !save pzg15end1 10:30:25 <ProZone> Saving game... 10:30:29 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 11:52:39 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.pro 11:52:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:05:16 <V453000> how do we transfer games on PZ? 12:05:24 <V453000> !help transfer 12:20:48 <Ammler> !transfer 12:20:48 <ProZone> Ammler: !transfer gamenr save: transfer the save to our web 12:21:25 <Ammler> why should it be other than on ps? 12:22:45 <V453000> I just feared it would transfer it to PS archive :) 12:23:10 <V453000> so !transfer 15 game.sav is correct? 12:24:08 <Ammler> NOO! 12:24:59 <V453000> hm 12:25:06 <V453000> could you do it then? :) 12:27:02 <Ammler> majonaise 12:27:09 <Ammler> of course it does work that way 12:27:32 <Ammler> I meant, "NOO, don't ask stupid questions" 12:29:29 <V453000> :D ok, thanks 12:29:44 <V453000> !transfer 15 game.sav 12:29:49 <ProZone> V453000: ProZoneGame_15_Final.sav 12:29:49 <ProZone> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/website/prozone/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/ProZone_archive/ProZoneGame_15_Final.sav) 12:46:21 <V453000> Ammler: btw, could we get the old server-password system here? 12:46:32 <V453000> the unpassworded server was not that good idea :) 12:48:24 <V453000> !getsave http://blog.openttdcoop.org/files/blog/V453000/pzg16start1.sav 12:48:26 <ProZone> V453000: OK :-) 12:48:42 <Ammler> any reason? 12:49:24 <V453000> well, yes ... when server crashes or disconnects or whatever, there is usually nobody to set the company password 12:49:33 <Ammler> why is that needed? 12:49:47 <Ammler> when the server crashes, nobody can connect 12:50:09 <V453000> idk how, but multiple times there was unpassworded company 12:50:36 <Ammler> I do not really mind 12:51:10 <Ammler> I just prefer reaction than action :-) 12:51:43 <Ammler> if nobody abused it, no need to care, but if you prefer action, well, it should be possible to change 12:52:48 <V453000> I think the original was far better :) we tried this, it was not that good as we thought 12:52:50 <Ammler> why do the young people have so much troubles with trust :-) 12:53:42 <Ammler> !restart 12:53:42 <ProZone> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 12:53:52 <V453000> :P 12:53:55 <V453000> thank you 12:54:01 <ProZone> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 12:54:01 <ProZone> Thank you for playing r22148. 12:54:06 <ProZone> Server has exited 12:54:07 <Ammler> !version 12:54:07 *** ProZone has quit IRC 12:54:33 *** ProZone has joined #openttdcoop.pro 12:54:33 <ProZone> Autopilot engaged 12:54:33 <ProZone> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop ProZone (www.openttdcoop.org)' 12:54:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ProZone 12:54:33 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop ProZone | PZG15 (r22148) | STAGE: Cleaning up what XeryusTC caused | visit www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PZ_game_ideas | Members, please note invites on our "list"" 12:54:45 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00008282: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00008282.png 12:54:48 <Ammler> !version 12:54:49 <ProZone> Ammler: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99+.0661cebc1745+) 12:55:30 <Ammler> !restart 12:55:30 <ProZone> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 12:56:01 <ProZone> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 12:56:01 <ProZone> Thank you for playing r22148. 12:56:06 <ProZone> Server has exited 12:56:07 *** ProZone has quit IRC 12:56:13 *** ProZone has joined #openttdcoop.pro 12:56:13 <ProZone> Autopilot engaged 12:56:13 <ProZone> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop ProZone (www.openttdcoop.org)' 12:56:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ProZone 12:56:14 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop ProZone | PZG15 (r22148) | STAGE: Cleaning up what XeryusTC caused | visit www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PZ_game_ideas | Members, please note invites on our "list"" 12:56:17 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00008282: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00008282.png 12:56:21 <Ammler> !version 12:56:21 <ProZone> Ammler: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99.0661cebc1745) 12:57:57 <Ammler> !password 12:57:57 <ProZone> Ammler: infamy 12:58:11 <Ammler> !rcon set server_password 12:58:11 <ProZone> Ammler: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'infamy' 12:58:51 <V453000> works :) thanks 12:59:09 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:59:51 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:59:51 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 13:00:09 <V453000> !rcon ls 13:00:09 <ProZone> V453000: 0) .. (Parent directory) 13:00:09 <ProZone> V453000: 1) archive/ (Directory) 13:00:09 <ProZone> V453000: 2) autosave/ (Directory) 13:00:09 <ProZone> V453000: 3) uploads/ (Directory) 13:00:09 <ProZone> V453000: 4) restart.sav 13:00:10 <ProZone> V453000: you have 31 more messages 13:00:13 <V453000> rcon cd 3 13:00:17 <V453000> 1rcon cd 3 13:00:24 <Ammler> !!!!!!!!!! 13:00:25 <V453000> nice misclicks. 13:00:46 <V453000> or something else wrong? :) 13:00:55 <Ammler> just you 13:01:11 <V453000> normal :) 13:01:17 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 13:01:28 <V453000> !password 13:01:28 <ProZone> V453000: infamy 13:01:55 <V453000> !rcon set server_password 13:01:55 <ProZone> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'reigns' 13:01:59 <V453000> !rcon set server_password infamy 13:02:15 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 13:02:17 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 13:02:29 <V453000> !auto 13:02:29 <ProZone> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 13:06:20 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop.pro 13:06:26 <Vinnie> !password 13:06:26 <ProZone> Vinnie: thresh 13:06:32 <Vinnie> hello people 13:06:35 <V453000> Welcome :p 13:06:43 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 13:06:45 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 13:06:49 <V453000> nobody here atm, people will gather later, and some more invites to be sent 13:06:57 <V453000> !auto 13:06:57 <ProZone> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 13:07:10 <ProZone> <V453000> so far we can make the MM and collect ideas 13:07:37 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 13:07:46 <V453000> !rcon unpause 13:07:48 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (manual) 13:07:53 <ProZone> *** V453000 has joined spectators 13:07:53 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:07:55 <ProZone> *** V453000 has joined company #1 13:07:55 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 13:09:38 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000561D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000561D.png 13:09:45 <ProZone> <Vinnie> so the idea is a S-Bahn styled pax pickup and drop at a large terminus on the other side of the map 13:11:26 <ProZone> <V453000> well not really 13:11:36 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:11:38 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 13:12:01 <V453000> !password 13:12:01 <ProZone> V453000: withed 13:12:49 <V453000> I do not really know how to describe it, just imagine mid-sized towns with normal primary pickup inside 13:12:58 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00006836: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00006836.png 13:13:58 <V453000> and dropped on the other side of the map ... not really either, dropped ... somewhere, or rather everywhere :) 13:14:04 <ProZone> <Vinnie> but will you have 100% coverage of the town? 13:14:28 <V453000> ofc 13:14:40 <ProZone> <Vinnie> thin i think i got it 13:15:01 <V453000> it is just a normal cargo game 13:15:07 <V453000> only replace industries with towns 13:15:23 <ProZone> <Vinnie> yes but to achieve 100 coverage you need to make the sbahn designed town 13:15:39 <ProZone> <Vinnie> and the S-bahn will be your primaries 13:15:56 <V453000> well, kind of ... 13:16:35 <Ammler> !url 13:16:35 <ProZone> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone 13:16:55 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 13:17:00 <V453000> but since it should grow organically, it should not have the look of such a synthetic Sbahn just like in psg 201 13:19:52 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 13:20:08 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 13:20:08 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:08:19 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 14:38:56 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.pro 14:38:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 14:58:24 <V453000> !password 14:58:24 <ProZone> V453000: tossed 14:58:37 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 14:58:40 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 15:01:59 <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 0 15:08:03 <ProZone> *** V453000 has joined spectators 15:35:01 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:20:05 <V453000> !password 16:20:05 <ProZone> V453000: floras 16:20:56 <V453000> !password 16:20:56 <ProZone> V453000: floras 16:21:15 <V453000> !rcon set company_pw 16:21:15 <ProZone> V453000: 'company_pw' is an unknown setting. 16:21:20 <V453000> !rcon set server_pw 16:21:20 <ProZone> V453000: 'server_pw' is an unknown setting. 16:21:31 <V453000> !rcon set server_password 16:21:31 <ProZone> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'floras' 16:21:59 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:22:01 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 16:22:14 <Vinnie> still no action :( 16:22:33 <V453000> action needs people to do it :) 16:23:04 <ProZone> <V453000> do not expect large amounts of people to be here 16:23:28 <Vinnie> not that many pro's? 16:23:40 <ProZone> <V453000> almost none active 16:23:54 <V453000> why do you think there has been only 15 pz games so far 16:24:10 <Vinnie> no custom trainset 16:24:20 <ProZone> <V453000> ? 16:24:26 <Vinnie> always maglev 16:24:40 <ProZone> <V453000> what sort of a reason is that 16:24:43 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:25:06 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:25:09 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 16:25:55 <V453000> but still, that is what PZ is for. Less people, only good people 16:26:02 <V453000> makes for different opprotunities 16:26:32 <Vinnie> oke. but can we make a plan now or is it still manually paused 16:26:40 <V453000> we can 16:27:43 <Vinnie> !password 16:27:43 <ProZone> Vinnie: likens 16:27:53 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:27:56 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 16:28:03 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 16:28:03 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:29:38 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000A24B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000A24B.png 16:31:27 <ProZone> <Vinnie> you can make some loops in this map 16:31:33 <ProZone> <Vinnie> for the backbone 16:31:33 <ProZone> <V453000> I think we can make the ML just how the islands say 16:31:47 <ProZone> <V453000> and then make main stations where we find them fitting 16:31:54 <ProZone> <Vinnie> main drop stations? 16:31:56 <ProZone> <V453000> we can even make some more main drop later 16:32:02 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 16:32:32 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:32:34 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:32:46 <V453000> !password 16:32:46 <ProZone> V453000: zanied 16:32:46 <ProZone> <Vinnie> so a single primairy station is connected to multiple main drop stations 16:32:57 <ProZone> <Vinnie> should he transport some cargo back? 16:32:58 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001FDBB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001FDBB.png 16:33:11 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:33:11 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:33:14 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 16:33:25 <ProZone> <V453000> definitely no pickups at drop stations 16:33:31 <ProZone> <V453000> that only messes trains up 16:33:44 <ProZone> <V453000> and each pickup goes only to one drop 16:33:50 <ProZone> <V453000> not multiple 16:33:52 <ProZone> <Vinnie> oke 16:34:10 <ProZone> <Vinnie> how many drops did you think of 16:34:13 <ProZone> <V453000> to which drop it goes, could vary or even be changed throughout the game 16:35:01 <ProZone> <V453000> idk 16:35:03 <ProZone> <V453000> how fits 16:35:21 <ProZone> <V453000> but I wuld like to have a massive network, so probably not some super high number of drops 16:35:37 <ProZone> <Vinnie> with more than LLL_RRR 16:35:47 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 16:36:17 <ProZone> <V453000> that is a MSH 16:36:18 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00018581: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00018581.png 16:36:25 <ProZone> <V453000> and that SLH is way too close 16:36:37 <ProZone> <Vinnie> me not pro 16:36:51 <ProZone> <V453000> just consider the points I just said 16:37:17 <ProZone> <V453000> hm 16:37:23 <ProZone> <V453000> no real reason to have ML in the middle of islands 16:37:37 <ProZone> <V453000> I think we could rather go closer to the coast 16:37:53 <ProZone> <V453000> like this 16:38:35 <ProZone> <V453000> SLH could go there imo 16:38:48 <ProZone> <Vinnie> yeah i was on welcome for a moment 16:39:39 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0002459A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0002459A.png 16:41:17 <ProZone> <Vinnie> Drop 3 is tight 16:41:28 <ProZone> <V453000> nowhere is written low TF :) 16:41:43 <ProZone> <V453000> but we probably dont need drop 03 at all 16:41:45 <ProZone> <Vinnie> to fit SLH and BBH and MSH 16:42:59 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000300F0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000300F0.png 16:43:32 <ProZone> <V453000> too close 16:43:48 <ProZone> <V453000> you know how LLL+ balancers look, right? :p 16:43:56 <ProZone> <Vinnie> nope 16:43:58 <ProZone> <V453000> the BBH is ok 16:44:00 <ProZone> <V453000> nothing to do with that 16:44:40 <ProZone> <V453000> Linston can be catched from the northern SLH there 16:44:54 <ProZone> <V453000> and the rest from somewhere else, if needed 16:46:19 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000092EF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000092EF.png 16:46:45 <ProZone> <V453000> just make drop :) 16:49:39 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00026E40: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00026E40.png 16:53:00 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000EC64: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000EC64.png 16:56:20 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00003F39: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00003F39.png 16:56:31 <ProZone> <V453000> we could easily merge Drop 06 and 04 I think 16:57:01 <ProZone> <Vinnie> make a link between 4 and 6? 16:57:05 <ProZone> <V453000> yea 16:57:57 <ProZone> <V453000> the whole island there can be a MSH basically 16:58:03 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i looked in a couple of PZ games but i couldn't find a LLL_RRR balancer 16:58:05 <ProZone> <V453000> so it should work somehow 16:58:15 <ProZone> <Vinnie> is the a PS game with it? 16:58:27 <ProZone> <V453000> sure, well for example 198 had some 16:58:33 <ProZone> <Vinnie> ke 16:59:03 <ProZone> <V453000> but some more could be for sure found in games like 179 16:59:40 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000073A7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000073A7.png 17:00:03 <ProZone> <Vinnie> ohh in 198 are easy 17:00:09 <ProZone> <Vinnie> same as in current ps game 17:00:24 <V453000> well, 4 + 4 -> 4 is already quite some number 17:00:34 <V453000> imagine you have 3 of those in a LLLL_RRRR hub 17:02:32 <ProZone> <Vinnie> most space is the waiting bays 17:03:22 <ProZone> <V453000> that does not change the fact that it is bigass :) 17:03:41 <ProZone> <Vinnie> well use TL3 it will be smaller 17:03:56 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.pro 17:04:07 <ProZone> <V453000> actually I think we could use rather something like TL5 17:04:25 <ProZone> <V453000> to be able to get more lines and lag later 17:05:35 <ProZone> <Vinnie> you want to have lag? 17:05:49 <ProZone> <V453000> we will have lag. I want to make it come as late as possible 17:06:12 <ProZone> <V453000> LLL_RRR with TL3 lags for sure more thatn LLL_RRR with TL5 17:06:40 <ProZone> <Vinnie> lag is mostly caused by the network game right? 17:06:47 <ProZone> <Vinnie> not by a slow cpu 17:06:53 <ProZone> <V453000> both 17:08:15 <ProZone> <V453000> could go for pax only N700 CL2 17:08:29 <ProZone> <V453000> the blue guys are cute but CL3 is a lot more :) 17:08:39 <ProZone> <V453000> could use some fun with that 17:09:02 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i don't know the trainset 17:09:12 <V453000> japan 17:09:40 <V453000> shinkansens, 300kmh, medium or rather good acceleration, CL2 because they are on maglev and have tilt 17:10:52 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop.pro 17:11:00 <mfb-> hi 17:11:05 <V453000> we have one more minion :P hi 17:11:18 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i see 17:12:09 <V453000> !password 17:12:09 <ProZone> V453000: jalopy 17:12:16 <V453000> same as PS, you have the password command 17:14:00 <ProZone> <V453000> ok, TL5 ? 17:14:03 <ProZone> <V453000> CL2? 17:14:05 <ProZone> <Vinnie> yes 17:14:54 <ProZone> <Vinnie> do you want to keep the ML seperated like LLL5RRR or should it be flexible 17:15:13 <ProZone> <V453000> just some gap ... could be like 10 17:15:16 <ProZone> <V453000> could vary 17:15:22 <ProZone> <V453000> what we need 17:15:28 <ProZone> <V453000> anyway, I would like to start with LR 17:15:44 <ProZone> <V453000> maybe LL10RR 17:15:58 <ProZone> <V453000> so that we do not increase instantly 17:16:20 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00009A48: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00009A48.png 17:16:22 <ProZone> <V453000> hm, I will cheat the date so that we can test it with trains 17:16:29 <ProZone> <V453000> minute ... :p 17:17:07 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 17:17:07 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:19:30 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:19:32 <V453000> there we go 17:19:36 <V453000> !password 17:19:36 <ProZone> V453000: abates 17:19:58 <V453000> !password 17:19:58 <ProZone> V453000: abates 17:20:03 <V453000> !rcon set server_password 17:20:03 <ProZone> V453000: Current value for 'server_password' is: 'reigns' 17:20:17 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:20:20 <ProZone> *** mfb joined the game 17:20:23 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:20:23 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:20:26 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:20:37 <ProZone> <V453000> hi mfb :) any comments to the plan we made? 17:20:59 <ProZone> <mfb> interesting thing 17:21:15 <ProZone> <mfb> CL2, TL5 - slow trains? 17:21:15 <ProZone> <V453000> I rather mean the specifics like TL5 and hub placement :) 17:21:25 <ProZone> <V453000> no, maglev with 300kmh 17:21:33 <ProZone> <V453000> never played japan? 17:21:44 <ProZone> <mfb> not yet 17:22:05 <ProZone> <V453000> see 17:23:00 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000CA68: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000CA68.png 17:23:39 <ProZone> <V453000> and tilt :) 17:23:47 <ProZone> <V453000> +20% in curves 17:24:29 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 17:26:20 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001676E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001676E.png 17:29:41 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C665: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C665.png 17:30:06 <ProZone> <V453000> the second curve would work, this is more obvious :) 17:30:17 <ProZone> <V453000> the slow still is very low, so :) 17:31:28 <Vinnie> !password 17:31:28 <ProZone> Vinnie: gluing 17:31:42 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:31:44 <ProZone> <mfb> maybe we can balance the drops with something like "load, goto drop 1, load, goto drop2" 17:31:58 <ProZone> <V453000> no 17:32:10 <ProZone> <V453000> that would only create problems at pickups 17:32:21 <ProZone> <V453000> the purpose is not to automatically balance it 17:32:24 <ProZone> <mfb> why? 17:32:27 <ProZone> <V453000> but to be able to control what is happening 17:32:33 <ProZone> <mfb> ok 17:32:43 <ProZone> <V453000> the multipoint very often almost randomizes travel times 17:32:53 <ProZone> <V453000> we need those to be as stable as possible 17:33:01 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000984B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000984B.png 17:33:25 <ProZone> <V453000> and we have the control over traffic already 17:33:35 <ProZone> <V453000> so it should be ok :) 17:33:53 <ProZone> <V453000> it might be fun to simulate secondary pickup 17:33:57 <ProZone> <Vinnie> is the time fast forwarded? 17:34:03 <ProZone> <V453000> no 17:34:13 <ProZone> <V453000> the train goes 300kmh 17:34:19 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 17:35:11 <ProZone> <V453000> jus waypoint him 17:36:21 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D062: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D062.png 17:36:35 <ProZone> <V453000> or that :D 17:38:23 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:38:31 <V453000> !password 17:38:31 <ProZone> V453000: girder 17:38:35 <ProZone> <Vinnie> how can penatlies work if no orders are set 17:38:47 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:39:42 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000B86D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000B86D.png 17:39:47 <ProZone> <mfb> that sign was ok 17:40:05 <ProZone> <mfb> well ok 17:40:25 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:50 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:41:06 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:41:21 <ProZone> <Vinnie> lets pause the game for him to join 17:41:27 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 17:41:27 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:41:28 <V453000> no need 17:41:39 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 17:41:39 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:41:41 <V453000> joining isnt the problem 17:41:44 <V453000> staying is 17:41:48 <V453000> wifi went nuts 17:42:12 <V453000> !password 17:42:12 <ProZone> V453000: morned 17:42:28 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:42:35 <ProZone> <V453000> anyway, we can start building 17:42:41 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:42:48 <V453000> @stage Building 17:42:48 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop ProZone | PZG15 (r22148) | STAGE: Building | visit www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PZ_game_ideas | Members, please note invites on our "list"" 17:43:06 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:43:13 <ProZone> <Vinnie> stages go faster here :) 17:43:25 <ProZone> <V453000> no point in voting planning or whatever 17:43:28 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:43:55 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:46:22 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00024425: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00024425.png 17:49:42 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001BA2F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001BA2F.png 17:52:59 <ProZone> <Vinnie> mixer ok or does it need to be a merger 17:53:03 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001E626: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001E626.png 17:53:13 <ProZone> <V453000> what is mixer, what is merger 17:53:38 <ProZone> <Vinnie> according to CB 17:53:48 <ProZone> <V453000> a joiner. 17:53:58 <ProZone> <V453000> it does not mix anything 17:54:22 <ProZone> <Vinnie> its a space eater 17:54:40 <ProZone> <V453000> what else would you use 17:54:48 <ProZone> <V453000> our hubs are big, that is nothing new 17:54:54 <ProZone> <V453000> and this is just a SLH thing 17:55:01 <ProZone> <Vinnie> oke 17:56:23 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000208CF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000208CF.png 17:57:36 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:57:53 <V453000> !password 17:57:53 <ProZone> V453000: golder 17:58:10 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:59:43 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001CA20: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001CA20.png 18:03:03 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000216D5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000216D5.png 18:06:18 <ProZone> <mfb> ~13 tiles prio look good 18:06:23 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000226D6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000226D6.png 18:06:51 <ProZone> <Vinnie> is it ok? 18:07:00 <ProZone> <V453000> should be 18:07:16 <ProZone> <V453000> BBHs can have smaller, and SLHs should not slow traffic down much 18:07:29 <ProZone> <V453000> 10 might be reasonable 18:07:29 <ProZone> <V453000> depends 18:09:44 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000966E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000966E.png 18:09:45 <ProZone> <Vinnie> dinner cya in a bit 18:09:47 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 18:09:49 <ProZone> <V453000> later 18:10:01 <ProZone> <mfb> 15+ to prevent trains slowing down 18:10:34 <ProZone> <V453000> priorities can be adjusted on the fly 18:13:04 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001B634: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001B634.png 18:14:29 <ProZone> <V453000> Vinnie: trains from 1 have far lower chance to join than trains from 2 18:16:24 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003A581: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003A581.png 18:17:37 <ProZone> <mfb> strange signal layouts... 18:17:43 <ProZone> <V453000> japan :) 18:17:58 <Razaekel> !password 18:17:58 <ProZone> Razaekel: tissue 18:18:12 <ProZone> <V453000> I did not add japanese names though, they are impossible to remember and make orientation one big hell 18:18:16 <ProZone> <V453000> hi Raz :) 18:18:16 <ProZone> *** Razaekel joined the game 18:18:24 <ProZone> <mfb> hi 18:19:44 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003B374: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003B374.png 18:20:08 <ProZone> <mfb> any fast, long bridges? 18:20:14 <ProZone> <V453000> not yet 18:20:14 <ProZone> <V453000> alter 18:20:16 <ProZone> <V453000> later 18:20:18 <ProZone> <mfb> ok 18:20:24 <ProZone> <Razaekel> i'm a little confused as to how you plan to set up the stations in each town 18:20:24 <ProZone> <V453000> btw the SLH should be towards the other side I think 18:20:28 <ProZone> <V453000> no towns south 18:20:42 <ProZone> <V453000> Razaekel: imagine completely normal primary pickups 18:20:44 <ProZone> <V453000> and situate them in towns 18:20:46 <ProZone> <mfb> no new towns later? ok 18:20:48 <ProZone> <Razaekel> ah 18:21:10 <ProZone> <V453000> mfb: rather grow where we need I think 18:21:29 <ProZone> <Razaekel> i imagine this will be an interesting network 18:21:43 <ProZone> <V453000> should be :) 18:22:09 <ProZone> <V453000> k, first BBH in place 18:22:30 <ProZone> <Razaekel> CL 2, eh? 18:22:33 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 18:22:35 <ProZone> <Razaekel> hmm 18:22:38 <ProZone> <V453000> that makes it also quite interesting 18:23:04 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00009889: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00009889.png 18:25:56 <ProZone> <V453000> mfb: 4way SLH is a very bad idea for a game where we expect expanding 18:26:24 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00008C86: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00008C86.png 18:28:37 <ProZone> <V453000> hey, money :D 18:28:43 <ProZone> <mfb> oh 18:28:49 <ProZone> <V453000> we might want to enforce our MM :) 18:28:59 <ProZone> <Razaekel> coming up with irregular hubs makes my brain hurt 18:29:08 <ProZone> <V453000> irregular? 18:29:14 <ProZone> <Razaekel> at MSH05 18:29:24 <ProZone> <V453000> what is irregular there :) 18:29:28 <ProZone> <V453000> normal 3way 18:29:34 <ProZone> <Razaekel> yea 18:29:45 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00009A82: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00009A82.png 18:29:48 <ProZone> <Razaekel> except normal 3-ways aren't in odd directions 18:29:55 <ProZone> <V453000> that does not matter 18:30:01 <ProZone> <Razaekel> for you 18:30:01 <ProZone> <V453000> diagonals actually are quite ok 18:30:15 <ProZone> <V453000> the logic is still the same, only directions change 18:31:25 <ProZone> <V453000> Razaekel: please come build some more extensive MM first 18:31:34 <ProZone> <Razaekel> where's the MM? 18:31:36 <ProZone> <V453000> boring when only one person can build, and not even on full speed :) 18:31:38 <ProZone> <V453000> can be anywhere 18:31:41 <ProZone> <V453000> just add planes 18:32:40 <ProZone> <Razaekel> hey 18:32:43 <ProZone> <Razaekel> fun airport 18:33:05 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000153A9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000153A9.png 18:33:14 <ProZone> <Razaekel> nvm 18:33:18 <ProZone> <Razaekel> not enough cash 18:35:26 <ProZone> <Vinnie> hello Razaekel 18:35:30 <ProZone> <Razaekel> yo 18:35:32 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 18:35:42 <ProZone> <V453000> wtf 18:35:46 <ProZone> <V453000> Nafingbourne airport 18:35:48 <ProZone> <V453000> :D 18:36:22 <ProZone> <V453000> btw those planes are far cheaper 18:36:25 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0002AE81: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0002AE81.png 18:36:40 <ProZone> <Razaekel> the dinger 200? 18:36:46 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 18:39:45 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00004C92: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00004C92.png 18:40:04 <ProZone> <mfb> frudhattan ridge airport is gone? 18:40:08 <ProZone> <Razaekel> removed it 18:40:14 <ProZone> <mfb> 300 pax waiting now 18:40:14 <ProZone> <Razaekel> i'm putting 1 airport at each corner of the map 18:40:22 <ProZone> <Razaekel> for most distance 18:40:57 <ProZone> <mfb> more towns => more passengers 18:42:23 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:42:28 <V453000> !password 18:42:28 <ProZone> V453000: ladles 18:43:06 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00007234: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00007234.png 18:43:08 <ProZone> <Vinnie> is the MM expanded or still working on it? 18:43:14 <ProZone> <Razaekel> expanded 18:43:16 <ProZone> <Razaekel> 9 airports 18:43:19 <ProZone> <Razaekel> need more planes 18:43:25 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 18:44:15 <ProZone> <Vinnie> who signs at my work? 18:44:31 <ProZone> <V453000> me 18:44:41 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i know but how do i make a join then 18:44:49 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:44:58 <V453000> that is the fun :) 18:45:00 <ProZone> <Vinnie> should i make a simple outer to outer lane BBH? 18:45:16 <V453000> you mix 1 and 2 and then join to the 3 lines, all in all caller a merger 18:46:12 <ProZone> <mfb> at least 1->2 will help 18:46:26 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0002EA88: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0002EA88.png 18:46:26 <ProZone> <Vinnie> so some SML in the center 18:46:46 <V453000> ? 18:47:07 <V453000> that would be helpful, but very space hogging 18:47:13 <V453000> rather make a proper joiner 18:47:30 <V453000> !password 18:47:30 <ProZone> V453000: washer 18:47:30 <ProZone> <Vinnie> like BBH01? 18:47:38 <V453000> yes, like that 18:47:52 <V453000> for example ... 18:48:35 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 18:49:46 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003DA69: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003DA69.png 18:49:52 <ProZone> <V453000> how are the planes made? all of them have the same orders? 18:49:52 <ProZone> <V453000> or just some random connections? 18:50:04 <ProZone> <Razaekel> same orders 18:50:10 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:50:19 <V453000> that is bad 18:50:24 <V453000> they just clump together that way 18:50:51 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 18:51:32 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:53:02 <V453000> !password 18:53:02 <ProZone> V453000: winces 18:53:06 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00020901: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00020901.png 18:53:54 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 18:54:07 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:54:16 <V453000> uhnm 18:54:50 <V453000> uhnm 18:54:53 <V453000> !password 18:54:53 <ProZone> V453000: winces 18:55:06 <ProZone> <Razaekel> man, no place to put a proper intercontinental airport 18:55:16 <V453000> lol 18:55:24 <ProZone> <Razaekel> there 18:55:26 <ProZone> <Razaekel> got one 18:55:29 <ProZone> <mfb> how do you get the traffic to need that? 18:55:38 <ProZone> <Razaekel> hub and spoke system 18:55:48 <ProZone> <Razaekel> city airport to hub, hub to city 18:56:17 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 18:56:26 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00021901: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00021901.png 18:56:51 <ProZone> <mfb> CL < TL gives some interesting concepts 18:56:58 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 18:57:01 <ProZone> <V453000> especially in mergers it is very comfortable 18:58:13 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:59:16 <ProZone> <Vinnie> there 18:59:47 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000086A0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000086A0.png 19:00:07 <ProZone> <Vinnie> how is that for interesting 19:03:07 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00022909: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00022909.png 19:04:03 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 19:04:19 <ProZone> <V453000> yes, that is about what you need :) 19:04:32 <ProZone> <V453000> you might want to start building hubs instead of that testgrounds :) 19:04:41 <ProZone> <Vinnie> me? 19:04:55 <ProZone> <Vinnie> it is part of the BBH 19:04:58 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:05:10 <V453000> BBH is LLRR 19:05:17 <ProZone> <Vinnie> damn 19:05:27 <ProZone> <Vinnie> why did we talk about LL_RR in the plan 19:05:38 <ProZone> <Vinnie> LLL_RRR 19:05:57 <V453000> idk, you did :) 19:06:15 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i will adjust it to LL_RR 19:06:27 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0002DE27: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0002DE27.png 19:06:57 <ProZone> <mfb> money again :( 19:08:01 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 19:08:17 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:09:47 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000218F5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000218F5.png 19:10:00 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 19:10:59 <ProZone> <mfb> was just the last signal there 19:12:03 <ProZone> <Razaekel> take it easy on the building, wouldya? 19:12:09 <ProZone> <Razaekel> need more airplanes 19:12:41 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 19:13:08 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00006836: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00006836.png 19:13:10 <ProZone> <mfb> now we have money 19:13:17 <ProZone> <mfb> for airplanes :) 19:13:23 <ProZone> <Vinnie> :( 19:15:01 <V453000> coming soon ... 20 minutes 19:15:21 <V453000> hopefully the connection will wise up by that time as well 19:16:00 <ProZone> <mfb> full load orders? 19:16:07 <ProZone> <Razaekel> shouldnt be any 19:16:19 <ProZone> <mfb> can replace some planes 19:16:26 <ProZone> <Vinnie> prindworth airport has no planes 19:16:28 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00020ECF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00020ECF.png 19:16:33 <ProZone> <Vinnie> nvm 19:16:36 <ProZone> <Razaekel> it does 19:17:38 <ProZone> <mfb> lol@sinnway 19:17:45 <ProZone> <mfb> nice location 19:18:04 <ProZone> <Vinnie> shall we service it later in the game? 19:18:23 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm.. no SLH there 19:19:48 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00020EF3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00020EF3.png 19:20:04 <ProZone> <Razaekel> full load any cargo is a little wonky 19:20:11 <ProZone> <Razaekel> cause they'll full load mail 19:20:14 <ProZone> <Razaekel> then leave 19:20:16 <ProZone> <mfb> what is the point in plane 9? 19:20:28 <ProZone> <mfb> better than load 10 pax and leave 19:20:32 <ProZone> <Razaekel> north to south hub connection 19:20:42 <ProZone> <mfb> without unload 19:21:12 <ProZone> <mfb> now it is loading its own passengers 19:21:22 <ProZone> <Razaekel> >.> 19:21:30 <ProZone> <Razaekel> you want transfer and leave empty? 19:21:44 <ProZone> <mfb> two-directional transfer with passengers doesn't work 19:21:46 <ProZone> <Razaekel> pick something 19:22:28 <ProZone> <mfb> well, it may give some results if more than one plane is there at the same time 19:23:08 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000090BF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000090BF.png 19:23:37 <ProZone> <mfb> <- afk 19:26:29 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00021AF1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00021AF1.png 19:29:49 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000220F5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000220F5.png 19:31:41 <ProZone> <Razaekel> too bad there isnt any airplane sepcifically for carrying mail 19:31:45 <ProZone> <Razaekel> specifically 19:31:59 <ProZone> <Vinnie> that would make a **** of money 19:32:58 <ProZone> <Razaekel> yea, it would make a lot more than carrying pax 19:33:02 <ProZone> <Razaekel> but the quantity is smaller 19:33:09 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000226F6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000226F6.png 19:34:09 <ProZone> <Razaekel> best MM of all is coal 19:34:11 <ProZone> <Razaekel> second is steel 19:34:13 <ProZone> <Razaekel> :-P 19:34:27 <ProZone> <Vinnie> goods are also worth some money 19:34:39 <ProZone> <Razaekel> over short timescales 19:34:55 <ProZone> <Razaekel> but if its a long haul route, goods drops below alot of stuff 19:35:06 <ProZone> <Razaekel> coal, steel, wood, oil, iron 19:35:33 <ProZone> <Vinnie> Prio size of 9 ke? 19:36:29 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00008282: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00008282.png 19:39:49 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000868A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000868A.png 19:42:28 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop.pro 19:42:41 <Intexon> hi :) 19:42:45 <ProZone> <Vinnie> hello 19:42:48 <V453000> and another one to the pack :P hi 19:43:09 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000226F2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000226F2.png 19:43:44 <V453000> !password 19:43:44 <ProZone> V453000: unpaid 19:43:49 <Intexon> !revision 19:43:49 <ProZone> Intexon: Game version is r22148 19:44:00 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 19:44:36 <ProZone> *** Intexon joined the game 19:44:51 <ProZone> <V453000> welcome :) 19:45:09 <ProZone> <Intexon> thank you :) 19:46:04 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:46:07 <V453000> later 19:46:29 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000226ED: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000226ED.png 19:49:50 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000240F3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000240F3.png 19:51:29 <ProZone> <Vinnie> ahh almost done 19:53:10 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00023D02: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00023D02.png 19:56:30 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000EAC1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000EAC1.png 19:59:50 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00022CFD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00022CFD.png 20:01:22 <ProZone> <Vinnie> see test a bit east 20:03:11 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003325A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003325A.png 20:06:31 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003345A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003345A.png 20:09:51 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00033457: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00033457.png 20:13:11 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000E0C3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000E0C3.png 20:16:32 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C6C5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C6C5.png 20:19:52 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000C4C1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000C4C1.png 20:23:12 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00032A48: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00032A48.png 20:25:53 <ProZone> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 20:26:16 <Vinnie> !password 20:26:20 <Intexon> !password 20:26:27 <Vinnie> ai 20:26:38 <mfb-> got mad with screenshots and kicks? 20:27:10 <Vinnie> !players 20:27:32 <mfb-> same problem at ps 20:27:43 <Vinnie> try a link to webcam 20:27:47 <Vinnie> this also fails 20:33:56 *** ProZone has quit IRC 20:36:20 <mfb-> ... 20:42:29 *** ProZone has joined #openttdcoop.pro 20:42:29 <ProZone> Autopilot engaged 20:42:29 <ProZone> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop ProZone (www.openttdcoop.org)' 20:42:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ProZone 20:42:29 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop ProZone | PZG15 (r22148) | STAGE: Building | visit www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PZ_game_ideas | Members, please note invites on our "list"" 20:54:46 <Vinnie> !password 20:54:46 <ProZone> Vinnie: tosses 20:54:49 <Vinnie> !players 20:54:51 <ProZone> Vinnie: There are currently no clients connected to the server 20:55:04 <Vinnie> anyone wants to go back in with me? 21:01:47 <mfb-> !password 21:01:47 <ProZone> mfb-: tosses 21:01:57 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:02:00 <ProZone> *** mfb joined the game 21:02:37 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:02:40 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 21:02:41 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 21:02:41 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:02:59 <ProZone> <Vinnie> wb mfb 21:03:58 <ProZone> <Vinnie> @@(gap 5) 21:03:58 <Webster> ProZone: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4. 21:06:33 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001ACAA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001ACAA.png 21:09:53 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00004269: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00004269.png 21:10:13 <ProZone> <mfb> .. 21:10:20 <ProZone> <Vinnie> that was not good 21:10:26 <ProZone> <mfb> ? 21:10:56 <ProZone> <Vinnie> going in the red 21:12:23 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i will stop building for some time 21:13:14 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00003A58: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00003A58.png 21:16:34 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001A09A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001A09A.png 21:19:54 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00003A60: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00003A60.png 21:20:29 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop.pro 21:20:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 21:20:39 <Intexon> !password 21:20:39 <ProZone> Intexon: newbie 21:20:46 <Intexon> haha 21:20:58 <ProZone> <Vinnie> 'hey intexion 21:21:05 <Intexon> hi 21:21:06 <ProZone> <mfb> hi 21:21:06 <ProZone> *** Intexon joined the game 21:23:14 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001B6B0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001B6B0.png 21:25:25 <ProZone> *** Intexon has joined spectators 21:25:29 <ProZone> *** Intexon has joined company #1 21:26:34 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00020EE0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00020EE0.png 21:29:55 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000224E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000224E1.png 21:31:56 <ProZone> <mfb> hmmhmm 21:32:02 <ProZone> <Vinnie> to short 21:32:13 <ProZone> <mfb> ah that is the way 21:33:15 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000E4B2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000E4B2.png 21:33:22 <ProZone> <mfb> very compact in north<->south-direction :) 21:33:37 <ProZone> <Vinnie> CL2 21:33:53 <ProZone> <mfb> S-bends are the interesting thing 21:34:03 <ProZone> <mfb> and some waiting spaces -> TL5 21:34:09 <ProZone> <mfb> but of course, CL2 helps 21:34:52 <ProZone> <Vinnie> next? 21:35:08 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm.. money is there 21:35:24 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i also completed BBH3 21:36:35 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000194AA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000194AA.png 21:38:55 <ProZone> <mfb> ? 21:39:13 <ProZone> <mfb> wtf 21:39:50 <ProZone> <Vinnie> 9 tiles :) 21:39:55 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0001C892: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001C892.png 21:39:56 <ProZone> <mfb> like that would be possible with combo/exit alone 21:40:02 <ProZone> <mfb> without that bridge thing 21:40:10 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i like hard 21:40:28 <ProZone> <Vinnie> its pro server 21:40:38 <ProZone> <mfb> so it has to look difficult? :D 21:40:45 <ProZone> <Vinnie> its a show off map 21:42:17 <ProZone> <Vinnie> my BBH are all the same. show me a different design please 21:43:15 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000EAC4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000EAC4.png 21:43:54 <Razaekel> !password 21:43:54 <ProZone> Razaekel: supple 21:44:04 <ProZone> *** Razaekel joined the game 21:45:27 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 21:45:30 <ProZone> <V453000> hi 21:45:40 <ProZone> <Vinnie> hello 21:45:42 <ProZone> <Intexon> hi 21:46:35 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000F8C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000F8C8.png 21:46:41 <ProZone> <V453000> :p 21:46:54 <ProZone> <V453000> btw the "expect massive expanding" is key 21:47:12 <ProZone> <V453000> I am really wondering how do you want to expand that :) 21:47:27 <ProZone> <Intexon> rebuild :P 21:47:33 <ProZone> <V453000> hm, ok :) 21:47:51 <ProZone> <Intexon> that little hill was just so at hand :P 21:47:59 <ProZone> <V453000> :) 21:48:05 <ProZone> <mfb> well, it looks really nice at the moment 21:48:31 <ProZone> <Intexon> lacks 2 balancers so don't be hasty :) 21:48:49 <ProZone> <mfb> they won't be at the hill 21:48:59 <ProZone> <Intexon> sure... 21:49:55 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000F8C6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000F8C6.png 21:50:23 <ProZone> <V453000> btw if you like some bridge type, just use it. I will disable the limits later 21:50:33 <ProZone> <mfb> speed limits? 21:50:39 <ProZone> <V453000> yes 21:50:41 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm nice 21:50:47 <ProZone> <Intexon> great 21:51:10 <ProZone> <V453000> would be a shame to use only tubulars 21:53:16 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00010AC3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00010AC3.png 21:54:29 <ProZone> <V453000> np 21:54:49 <ProZone> <Intexon> dinner 21:54:51 <ProZone> *** Intexon has joined spectators 21:56:36 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00009427: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00009427.png 21:59:56 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003D3D0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003D3D0.png 22:01:53 <ProZone> <Vinnie> no more money means someone is building something big 22:02:04 <ProZone> <mfb> just another SLH 22:02:10 <ProZone> <Razaekel> southwest corner, probably 22:02:16 <ProZone> <Vinnie> nahh V453000 22:02:19 <ProZone> <V453000> :p 22:02:35 <ProZone> <mfb> ... ;) 22:03:02 <ProZone> <V453000> no 22:03:06 <ProZone> <V453000> it is not a bay 22:03:09 <ProZone> <V453000> it is just a braking space 22:03:16 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003D1D2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003D1D2.png 22:03:18 <ProZone> <Vinnie> ke 22:06:37 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003CFD7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003CFD7.png 22:07:26 <ProZone> *** Intexon has joined company #1 22:09:00 <ProZone> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 22:09:57 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003CDD9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003CDD9.png 22:09:59 *** Mucht has quit IRC 22:13:17 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000A61A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000A61A.png 22:13:22 <V453000> gnight 22:13:30 <ProZone> <Vinnie> goodnight 22:13:33 <ProZone> <Intexon> gn 22:13:35 <ProZone> <mfb> good night 22:13:46 <ProZone> <Vinnie> ahhh we got money again 22:13:52 <ProZone> <mfb> not much 22:16:39 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000D4C0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000D4C0.png 22:19:57 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000E6B7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000E6B7.png 22:23:18 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000BEC5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000BEC5.png 22:26:38 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000E4C2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000E4C2.png 22:26:46 <ProZone> <Intexon> why are tunnels so ridiculously expensive :) 22:26:55 <ProZone> <mfb> :( 22:29:58 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00009A22: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00009A22.png 22:31:37 <ProZone> <Vinnie> ty 22:31:39 <ProZone> <mfb> easier to do that now 22:33:18 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000238F5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000238F5.png 22:35:56 <ProZone> <mfb> hmm 22:36:02 <ProZone> <mfb> that prio is difficult 22:36:12 <ProZone> <Intexon> where? 22:36:12 <ProZone> <Vinnie> it will work 22:36:16 <ProZone> <mfb> SLH 04 22:36:18 <ProZone> <mfb> not at the moment 22:36:21 <ProZone> <mfb> combo will block 22:36:38 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00023907: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00023907.png 22:37:01 <ProZone> <mfb> ok, boring way 22:37:03 <ProZone> <mfb> but that works 22:37:41 <ProZone> <Vinnie> i know how to ddo it your way 22:37:51 <ProZone> <mfb> how? 22:38:56 <ProZone> <mfb> nice 22:39:02 <ProZone> <Intexon> or with pbs :) 22:39:16 <ProZone> <Vinnie> we already did pbs 22:39:58 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0002650C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0002650C.png 22:40:10 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:40:54 <ProZone> <mfb> ok... anything missing? 22:43:19 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00008C20: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00008C20.png 22:49:22 <ProZone> <mfb> -1 pbs-prio 22:49:54 <ProZone> <Vinnie> but that would block? 22:49:59 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00002FBD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00002FBD.png 22:50:01 <ProZone> <mfb> where, why? 22:50:12 <ProZone> <mfb> why? 22:50:35 <ProZone> <mfb> no 22:51:12 <ProZone> <mfb> that is the prio track 22:51:22 <ProZone> <mfb> 4 tiles without, but we have TL5 22:51:22 <ProZone> <Vinnie> ohhhh 22:53:19 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00002DC0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00002DC0.png 22:54:57 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:56:32 <ProZone> <Vinnie> drop 4 is interesting] 22:56:39 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 00001FB8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/00001FB8.png 22:56:51 <ProZone> <mfb> :) 22:56:53 <ProZone> <Intexon> I'm trying to do something pretty 22:57:15 <ProZone> <Intexon> the tunnels are freaking moneysink 22:57:27 <ProZone> <mfb> build them later? 22:57:29 <ProZone> <Intexon> yea 23:00:00 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 000031B7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/000031B7.png 23:00:34 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 23:03:20 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003CC72: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003CC72.png 23:06:40 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0003CC70: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0003CC70.png 23:07:47 <ProZone> <Intexon> doing something? 23:08:11 <ProZone> <mfb> just ML at the moment 23:10:00 <ProZone> *** made screenshot at 0000422F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0000422F.png 23:10:24 <ProZone> <mfb> northern ring is done? 23:11:11 <ProZone> <Intexon> I'm off for a while 23:11:15 <ProZone> *** Intexon has joined spectators 23:11:15 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:11:21 <ProZone> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 23:13:38 <ProZone> <Vinnie> still here mfb 23:14:00 <ProZone> <mfb> almost gone 23:14:07 <ProZone> <Vinnie> oke im off to gn 23:14:14 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 23:14:16 <ProZone> <mfb> good night 23:14:23 <ProZone> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 23:37:58 *** mfb- has quit IRC