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Thanks, Chris_Booth 21:31:27 <Chris_Booth> ok 21:31:46 <Chris_Booth> its a windows server anyway so not great for hosting game 21:31:48 <Chris_Booth> s 21:31:57 <Chris_Booth> but thought I would offer 21:35:11 <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: you know anyone else who could make use of a high end windows server? 21:35:41 <planetmaker> Not at the moment 21:35:51 <planetmaker> I mean... many could. Especially spammers ;-) 21:36:24 <Chris_Booth> I hate spammers 21:37:30 <Sylf> i know mant ppl who don't enen want to touch a windows server even with a 10-meter pole 21:38:00 <TWerkhoven[l]> i wouldnt mind one 21:38:14 <TWerkhoven[l]> course first thing i would do is remove all traces of windows 21:38:17 <Chris_Booth> Sylf: I only use them 21:38:38 <Chris_Booth> TWerkhoven[l]: you would not be allowed to do that 21:39:55 <Chris_Booth> I might just turn the server frame off, and give more to my others 21:40:36 <TWerkhoven[l]> :) 21:45:29 <Chris_Booth> I guess when you can run ASP and T SQL on a linux server native I will change 21:45:43 <Chris_Booth> but until the MS is much better for VS development 21:46:50 <planetmaker> windows indeed is the thing which even in case of need would make me thing at least twice. 21:47:10 <planetmaker> It mostly means I can run nothing of what I'd need it for 21:47:50 <planetmaker> and it'd mean I'd have again try to remember how windows works. Heck, I even forgot how that ugly explorer works 21:48:06 <planetmaker> (just found out the hard way yesterday) 21:48:28 <planetmaker> non of the usual shortcuts works ;-) 21:49:02 <Chris_Booth> explorer on the servers in not needed 21:49:04 <planetmaker> well. not none. But not the one for 'open another one of these windows' 21:49:25 <planetmaker> so that I can properly move files 21:49:42 <planetmaker> for once, OpenTTD won't run on a windows server 21:49:54 <planetmaker> not with the IRC bridge we use 21:50:10 <Chris_Booth> no AP doen't work on windows 21:50:19 <Chris_Booth> not without alot of work 21:50:30 <planetmaker> with no work 21:50:42 <planetmaker> I know a lot of people who tried. And all failed 21:50:56 <planetmaker> The required work would be: install linux (or macos) 21:51:22 <planetmaker> or rewrite the tcl expect package and teach windows to properly handled signals 21:51:31 <planetmaker> which is what it fails on 21:52:05 <Chris_Booth> or write AP in a windows language 21:53:22 <planetmaker> that'd not be ap+ 21:53:38 <Chris_Booth> could be ap# XD 21:54:16 <Sylf> ap.NET ofcourse 21:54:39 <planetmaker> well. AP+ is a deprecated solution anyway 21:54:51 <TWerkhoven[l]> just no successor ready yet? 21:54:52 <planetmaker> Anything new should use the admin port 21:54:59 <planetmaker> I know of no substitute 21:55:22 <planetmaker> If someone knows an open-source substitute: please tell me (or any other coop member) 21:55:28 <planetmaker> I'd gladly give it a shot 21:55:32 <Chris_Booth> wasn't osai working on something? 21:55:51 <planetmaker> I also don't know anyone working on anything 21:55:58 <TWerkhoven[l]> theres grapes (java) but it doesnt do very much atm afaik 21:56:27 <planetmaker> Yes, that I'm well aware of. But it's so far only a proof of concept that the admin port works 21:56:36 <planetmaker> Yes, I tested it. Also on the PS ;-) 21:56:42 <TWerkhoven[l]> :) 21:57:10 <planetmaker> unfortunately dih became quite inactive after that 21:57:35 <planetmaker> I hoped he'd finish with a soltuion which would do at least a significant part of what ap+ does now 21:57:42 <Chris_Booth> did he not release the soorce and package info? 21:57:50 <planetmaker> even though I personally don#t like java too much. But... well :-) 21:58:04 <planetmaker> He released everything. His repos are on the DevZone 21:58:10 <TWerkhoven[l]> would you like eggdrop with c-module or tcl-script? 21:59:14 <planetmaker> Dunno. Might be a way 21:59:19 <Chris_Booth> I would not write anything in Java, as I hate netbeans and hate eclipce 21:59:31 <Sylf> havent heard of eggdrop in 13 years :o 21:59:31 <planetmaker> I've no fixed pre-conception of how it should work or be implemented, TWerkhoven[l] 21:59:43 <planetmaker> I just... want something which does what ap+ does 21:59:54 <planetmaker> and which uses the admin port instead 21:59:57 <TWerkhoven[l]> its still active, i used to run a couple years ago 22:00:04 <planetmaker> and which is open-source so that we can adjust it 22:00:07 <planetmaker> if needed 22:00:08 <Chris_Booth> would you be of with something in asp? 22:00:26 <planetmaker> it need run on linux, of course 22:01:09 <Chris_Booth> asp could manage a linux server, but would have to run on a windows server 22:01:26 <planetmaker> that's uninteresting 22:01:56 <Chris_Booth> but I recond you could me a nice website embeded controller in ASP with C# 22:01:59 <planetmaker> it'd require another server with high license fees for that 22:02:15 <Chris_Booth> I would loan you mine 22:02:23 <Chris_Booth> but I would not write the code 22:02:28 <planetmaker> nor would I 22:02:56 <planetmaker> and honestly: a 2nd server to control an openttd on another server: very very bad setup 22:03:10 <planetmaker> it adds too many additional and unnecessary single point of failures 22:03:41 <planetmaker> thus it should run in the same VM as the server itself 22:29:18 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop.pro 22:29:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 22:46:01 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:55:02 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 23:11:26 *** mfb- has quit IRC 23:11:40 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:30:20 *** ODM has quit IRC