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06:20:54 <V453000> !password 06:20:54 <ProZone> V453000: rimmed 06:21:10 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 06:21:10 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 06:21:12 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 06:32:31 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop.pro 06:32:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dwarf 06:32:37 <dwarf> !password 06:32:37 <ProZone> dwarf: inters 06:32:53 <ProZone> *** dwarf joined the game 06:33:25 <ProZone> <V453000> moo 06:33:35 <ProZone> <dwarf> hi 06:35:21 <ProZone> <dwarf> mwahhaha, this is awesome :D 06:37:19 <ProZone> <V453000> grab a SL :P 06:38:13 <ProZone> <dwarf> ah, can't start playing right now, have to finish things tonight 06:38:21 <ProZone> <dwarf> but I'll be back for this 06:39:23 <ProZone> *** dwarf has left the game (leaving) 06:39:41 <V453000> :) 06:46:58 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 06:46:58 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 10:12:19 *** dwarf has quit IRC 10:31:27 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop.pro 10:31:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dwarf 11:46:14 *** dwarf has quit IRC 13:07:45 *** Mazur has quit IRC 13:50:53 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop.pro 13:50:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mazur 13:59:14 *** Mazur has quit IRC 14:09:51 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop.pro 14:09:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mazur 14:57:54 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 14:59:32 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.pro 14:59:32 *** Webster sets mode: +o KenjiE20 15:19:16 *** Ryton_ has joined #openttdcoop.pro 15:27:28 <Ryton_> !playercount 15:27:28 <ProZone> Ryton_: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 15:51:48 *** Ryton_ has quit IRC 16:01:54 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.pro 16:01:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:17:08 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop.pro 16:17:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dwarf 16:33:52 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.pro 16:54:22 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.pro 17:18:28 *** Ryton_ has joined #openttdcoop.pro 17:20:35 <Ryton_> !playercount 17:20:35 <ProZone> Ryton_: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 17:27:24 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop.pro 17:29:03 <Ryton_> hi V2 17:29:24 <Vinnie_nl> wanna play? 17:35:23 <Ryton_> yeah 17:36:47 <Vinnie_nl> !password 17:36:47 <ProZone> Vinnie_nl: adepts 17:37:11 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:37:11 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:37:14 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:39:40 <Ryton_> ty 17:40:02 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (general timeout) 17:40:02 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:02 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:40:30 <Vinnie_nl> !password 17:40:30 <ProZone> Vinnie_nl: adepts 17:40:40 <ProZone> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:40:40 <ProZone> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:40:43 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:41:25 <Ryton_> !password 17:41:25 <ProZone> Ryton_: adepts 17:41:26 <Vinnie_nl> i assume you meant in the prozone? or do you want to play in the Public server? 17:41:45 <ProZone> *** Ryton joined the game 17:41:49 <ProZone> <Ryton> no i ment here :-) 17:41:55 <ProZone> <Ryton> ty 17:42:01 <ProZone> <Ryton> had an idea for a SNRW 17:43:07 <ProZone> <Ryton> whats the CL on this map anyway? 17:43:10 <ProZone> <Vinnie> 5 17:43:14 <V453000> 1! 17:43:21 <V453000> !password 17:43:21 <ProZone> V453000: adepts 17:43:26 <ProZone> <Ryton> on a sideline I mean :-) 17:43:32 <ProZone> <Ryton> 1exept for the first part? :-) 17:43:45 <V453000> seriously that question is so stupid that you should not be answered :) 17:44:02 <ProZone> *** V453000 joined the game 17:44:04 <ProZone> <Ryton> k fair enoguh 17:44:10 <ProZone> <Vinnie> he is very subtile today 17:44:12 <ProZone> <V453000> hy 17:44:26 <ProZone> <Vinnie> hello 17:44:32 <ProZone> <V453000> asking what CL do the fastest trains in the game have is really wrong :P 17:44:46 <ProZone> <Ryton> ok true :p 17:45:05 <ProZone> <Ryton> I doubt its 64 with TL 64? :p 17:45:15 <ProZone> <V453000> guess 17:46:01 <ProZone> <V453000> I should seriously update the wiki article about CL because I feel like nobody knows how it works 17:46:04 <ProZone> <V453000> :( 17:46:22 <ProZone> <Vinnie> it works with Clcalc command 17:46:32 <ProZone> <Vinnie> if that fails go to wiki and find the CL graph 17:47:15 <Vinnie_nl> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Trains 17:47:40 <ProZone> <Ryton> yeah I've seen it a couple of times 17:47:42 <ProZone> <Ryton> but asking is easier :p 17:48:09 <ProZone> <V453000> trying is easiest 17:48:47 <ProZone> <Ryton> I'll try on a mainline here p: 17:49:13 <ProZone> <Ryton> bah I'm playing with another mouse, and that one is hypersensitive :'( 17:50:03 <ProZone> <V453000> cant help with that :) 17:50:29 <ProZone> <Ryton> it would be very scary if you could :p 17:53:49 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.pro 17:54:17 <Maraxus> !password 17:54:17 <ProZone> Maraxus: chaffs 17:54:43 <ProZone> *** Maraxus joined the game 17:54:55 <ProZone> <V453000> haio 17:54:58 <ProZone> <Maraxus> hi 17:55:24 <ProZone> <V453000> look at train 821 17:55:27 <ProZone> *** Jam35 joined the game 17:55:38 <ProZone> <Jam35> hi 17:55:49 <ProZone> <V453000> wtf there is more of them 17:55:51 <ProZone> <V453000> hi Jam35 17:56:01 <ProZone> <V453000> what the actual fuck 17:56:15 <ProZone> <V453000> tycoondemon built more dummies than he has available spaces in station 17:56:17 <ProZone> <V453000> really 17:56:47 <ProZone> <Vinnie> holy crap, i go find a desktop 17:57:21 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 17:59:46 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 18:05:40 <ProZone> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 18:06:16 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 18:06:29 <ProZone> *** Player joined the game 18:06:29 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 18:06:32 <ProZone> *** Player has changed his/her name to /Vinnie 18:06:36 <ProZone> *** /Vinnie has changed his/her name to Vinnie 18:08:53 *** dwarf has quit IRC 18:09:25 <ProZone> <V453000> who is at Lesdale 18:09:28 <ProZone> <Ryton> me 18:09:30 <ProZone> <V453000> please do not use NUTS trains 18:09:32 <ProZone> <Ryton> anything worng? 18:09:38 <ProZone> <Ryton> which one is more suitable then? 18:09:48 <ProZone> <V453000> the same as the mainline trains? 18:09:54 <ProZone> <Ryton> k 18:10:00 <ProZone> <V453000> most notably the wagons 18:10:08 <ProZone> <Ryton> the other ones didnt fit the slugs 18:10:15 <ProZone> <Ryton> but probably the capacity is different? 18:10:21 <ProZone> <Ryton> was going to check that later :p 18:10:23 <ProZone> <V453000> ... 18:10:26 <ProZone> <V453000> 37 to 22 18:10:40 <ProZone> <Ryton> kk 18:10:42 <ProZone> <Ryton> 24 18:10:45 <ProZone> <Ryton> but good point 18:10:51 <ProZone> <V453000> right, 24 in case of slugs 18:13:05 <ProZone> <V453000> violence is not the solution! 18:13:24 <ProZone> <Jam35> yes it is 18:17:00 <ProZone> <Jam35> gah slow ass computer 18:24:26 <ProZone> <Ryton> wth, any idea why the right platform is very unatractive for the trains? 18:24:37 *** dwarf has joined #openttdcoop.pro 18:24:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o dwarf 18:24:39 <ProZone> <Vinnie> you need sexy ladies 18:25:13 <ProZone> <Ryton> + where is the injection depot? 18:25:23 <ProZone> <Vinnie> because there is a missing track at exit 18:25:23 <ProZone> <Ryton> I vaporised a dozen trains 18:25:37 <ProZone> <Ryton> thats on purpose 18:25:51 <ProZone> <Ryton> some trains are still leaving empty 18:25:53 <ProZone> <Vinnie> well as long as that track is missing you can't count on train pathfinder 18:25:59 <ProZone> <Ryton> kk 18:28:41 <ProZone> <Vinnie> lengthen dummy train by .5 tile so it fits entire station might help a little 18:29:19 <ProZone> <Ryton> oh ok. or unload at entry instead of far end? 18:29:41 <ProZone> <Ryton> k now it sok 18:30:31 <ProZone> <Ryton> loll 18:30:33 <ProZone> <Ryton> mainline is stuckk 18:30:43 <ProZone> <Ryton> sorry 18:31:01 <ProZone> <Ryton> hmm 18:31:15 <ProZone> <Ryton> not me :p 18:31:23 <ProZone> <Jam35> :) 18:32:06 <ProZone> <Ryton> pff 18:32:12 <ProZone> <Ryton> and my station still realeases empty ones 18:32:43 *** Ryton_ has quit IRC 18:32:50 <ProZone> <Vinnie> your dummy is to slow 18:32:56 <ProZone> <Ryton> yeah it iss 18:32:58 <ProZone> <Ryton> make it bigger? 18:33:08 <ProZone> <Vinnie> Use some Gator A engines 18:38:56 <ProZone> <Ryton> poff 18:38:58 <ProZone> <Ryton> still too slow 18:39:27 <ProZone> <Vinnie> gator alone is slow 18:42:40 <ProZone> <Ryton> wth, now some trains arent released :p 18:53:11 <tycoondemon> V453000 18:53:18 <tycoondemon> those escaped last night 18:53:32 <tycoondemon> but I did not have the time to get them from the network 18:53:38 <tycoondemon> I had to sleep 18:53:42 <V453000> doesnt matter when, having more trains than station platforms is just silly 18:53:45 <tycoondemon> !dl lin64 18:53:45 <ProZone> tycoondemon: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r25267/openttd-trunk-r25267-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz 19:10:51 <ProZone> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 19:12:34 <tycoondemon> it was not intentional V453000 19:12:43 <tycoondemon> !password 19:12:43 <ProZone> tycoondemon: navels 19:12:47 <ProZone> <V453000> I know, just fix it please 19:12:49 <ProZone> <V453000> :) 19:13:31 <ProZone> *** wss joined the game 19:15:21 <ProZone> <Vinnie> hi 19:16:15 <ProZone> <wss> hi 19:19:21 <Mazur> Hi ho. 19:19:27 <ProZone> <Ryton> hi MZ 19:20:11 <ProZone> <wss> hi all 19:20:14 <Mazur> About PS, everyone done with it, or should I up the train limit, or are there still problems to be solved first? 19:20:29 <ProZone> <wss> I wanted to play yesterday 19:20:35 <ProZone> <wss> but nobody was there 19:20:45 <ProZone> <wss> I still believe it is not finished 19:20:50 <Mazur> That's why i's gator, it goes at a slow gait. 19:20:51 <ProZone> <Ryton> it is not 19:20:53 <ProZone> <wss> but I am conservative 19:20:58 <Mazur> It's not supposed to. 19:21:09 <Mazur> I'm joined in, now. 19:21:33 <ProZone> <wss> I believe that I need the faster pc for that game 19:21:39 <ProZone> <wss> but I will try 19:21:42 <Mazur> But sine yesterday evening I've not seen it running, so I;ve no idea aout the status of the network. 19:22:09 <Mazur> I do know the train limit has been reached for over a day, now. 19:24:24 <ProZone> <wss> so too many oil wells too? 19:28:44 <ProZone> <wss> I removed the excess dummy trains 19:29:30 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 19:31:37 <ProZone> <wss> why are some trains not staying and loading? 19:31:47 <ProZone> <wss> /name tycoondemon 19:32:06 <ProZone> <Ryton> hehe 19:32:09 <ProZone> <Ryton> tilde 19:32:16 <ProZone> *** wss has changed his/her name to tycoondemon 19:32:18 <ProZone> <Ryton> =console, or shortcut in ? 19:32:44 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I am a noob 19:32:46 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> but still 19:33:00 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> why are most trains not loading and just driving thrue 19:36:02 <TWerkhoven> non-stop orders? 19:36:06 <TWerkhoven> train allready full? 19:37:54 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> okay 19:44:21 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (general timeout) 19:44:21 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 19:51:49 <ProZone> <V453000> o_O 19:51:55 <ProZone> <V453000> how did our ML managed to jam :D 19:52:45 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> it also did last night 19:52:51 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I had to rerout trains to fix it 19:54:10 <ProZone> <V453000> actually 19:54:16 <ProZone> <V453000> probably caused by the short trains 19:54:22 <ProZone> <V453000> did you make sure there is not a single one remaining? 19:54:36 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I am not absolutely positive 19:54:38 <ProZone> <Ryton> we could use more ML trians imho 19:54:52 <ProZone> <V453000> then be absolutely positive 19:54:58 <ProZone> <V453000> this game cannot afford any mistakes 19:55:27 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I will send all my dummy trains to the depot 19:55:34 *** ODM has quit IRC 19:55:37 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> and delete them, then I am absolutely sure 19:56:08 <ProZone> <V453000> just move the few ones with which you are sure to a separate group 19:56:18 <ProZone> <V453000> hm no that wont work 19:57:01 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> ok 19:57:36 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I count 10 trains and I see 10 trains in the station 19:57:46 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so that meens I am good 19:57:56 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> since I only ever cloned dummy trains 19:57:58 <ProZone> <V453000> hoping that they had shared orders 19:57:58 <ProZone> <V453000> :) 19:58:28 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> well wen they clone 19:58:34 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> they keep orders allways 19:58:41 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so they always go to the dummy stations 19:59:51 <ProZone> <V453000> OH 19:59:53 <ProZone> <V453000> my bad 20:00:03 <ProZone> <V453000> ofc the real cause is empty trains on ML 20:00:27 <ProZone> <V453000> uhmmm 20:00:33 <ProZone> <V453000> why do your dummies have 2 full load orders 20:00:51 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> because I want them trains to go thrue the loading faster 20:00:57 <ProZone> <V453000> wtf? 20:00:59 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> because it is filled with all 20:01:01 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> oil 20:01:17 <ProZone> <V453000> your station releases a million of empty trains 20:01:19 <ProZone> <V453000> that ok? 20:03:05 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> that is just this last minute 20:03:16 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> before it had 70 million oil 20:03:50 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> you where talking about ml jam before the loading was empty 20:04:21 <ProZone> *** Jam35 has left the game (general timeout) 20:04:21 <ProZone> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 20:04:34 <ProZone> <Ryton> hmm, my trains only load 85M 20:04:37 <ProZone> <Ryton> 85% 20:04:43 <ProZone> <V453000> must be 100% 20:04:49 <ProZone> <Ryton> ah no, my mistake 20:04:55 <ProZone> <V453000> :D panic 20:04:55 <ProZone> <Ryton> I just saw 87% as last loading stage 20:04:57 <ProZone> <Ryton> but they are full :p 20:05:04 <ProZone> <Ryton> anyways 20:05:10 <ProZone> <V453000> we will find out if they arent :) 20:05:12 <ProZone> <Ryton> can just lengthen road for dummy train 20:05:18 <ProZone> <Ryton> now its for sure 100% 20:06:00 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> say "I will go to a differnt box" this one is too slow 20:07:18 <ProZone> <Ryton> ok, works now 20:07:22 <ProZone> <Ryton> no reason to panic :p 20:08:44 <ProZone> *** tycoondemon has left the game (leaving) 20:08:58 <ProZone> *** Vinnie joined the game 20:11:48 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 20:13:01 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 20:13:10 <ProZone> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 20:17:31 <tycoondemon> !password 20:17:31 <ProZone> tycoondemon: canoed 20:17:59 <tycoondemon> !password 20:17:59 <ProZone> tycoondemon: canoed 20:18:17 <ProZone> *** tycoondemon joined the game 20:18:21 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> better :) 20:19:52 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> sight 20:29:02 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 20:37:06 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:49:32 <ProZone> <Ryton> can one tell me 20:49:38 <ProZone> <Ryton> why oh why some trains dont load? 20:49:49 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> yes I hade the same problem 20:49:51 <ProZone> <Ryton> ah nvr mind 20:49:51 <ProZone> <Ryton> me blind 20:54:40 <ProZone> <Ryton> afk 20:55:14 *** Sylf has quit IRC 20:55:18 <ProZone> *** Ryton has left the game (general timeout) 20:55:18 <ProZone> *** Ryton has left the game (connection lost) 21:00:22 *** Ryton_ has joined #openttdcoop.pro 21:16:56 <ProZone> <V453000> I think I fixed all the things which could possibly make ML jam 21:21:26 <ProZone> <V453000> yeah 21:21:40 <ProZone> <V453000> anything which breaks now is caused by not 100% loaded trains 21:21:51 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> cool 21:22:06 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> or tycoondemon maybe :P 21:31:01 *** Ryton_ has quit IRC 21:34:56 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so, more trains? 21:40:37 <ProZone> <V453000> sure thing 21:43:01 <ProZone> <V453000> the day people realize presignal bypass is wron 21:43:03 <ProZone> <V453000> g 21:43:05 <ProZone> <V453000> I will be happy 21:43:32 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> you be happy 21:44:48 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> what is pre signal bypass? 21:45:16 <V453000> @wiki presignal bypass 21:45:17 <Webster> Search - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=presignal%20bypass 21:45:31 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Presignal_Bypass_Station this trash 21:48:52 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so whats the problem? 21:49:30 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> why are you unhappy? 21:49:48 <ProZone> <V453000> well if you look at this image from that page http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Station_goods_drop_ottdcoop.png 21:50:17 <V453000> there are 3 trains inside the station entrance 21:50:31 <V453000> but only 2 free platforms 21:50:36 <V453000> so where will the 3rd one go :) 21:50:40 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> yes 21:51:06 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so you are unhappy the person who made the screenshot did not learn in advance 21:51:09 <ProZone> <V453000> [it gets stuck] 21:51:15 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> that it was a bad Idea? 21:51:33 <ProZone> <V453000> no I was unhappy because I was in panic and almost thought you used it in your station 21:51:37 <ProZone> <V453000> but I was wrong 21:51:47 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> indeed 21:51:47 <ProZone> <V453000> it isnt just a bad idea, the concept is completely broken :) 21:52:13 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I realised I dindt want pre signals anyway 21:52:16 <ProZone> <V453000> in fact it can be used in some very speficic cases but that is very rare 21:52:24 <ProZone> <V453000> exactly 21:52:27 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> I was not even touching presignal bypass 21:52:38 <ProZone> <V453000> the same entrance without presignals does the same, but cant block 21:52:48 <ProZone> <V453000> well almost the same, but usage is the same 21:55:45 <ProZone> <V453000> and awesome 21:55:49 <ProZone> <V453000> 1st line is jammed to shit 21:56:07 <ProZone> <V453000> something releases broken trains 21:56:31 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> where and what is a broken train? 21:56:37 <ProZone> <V453000> ..... 21:56:44 <ProZone> <V453000> not fully loaded 21:59:34 <ProZone> <V453000> OH 21:59:49 <ProZone> <V453000> dead refineries certainly werent helping 22:00:10 <ProZone> <V453000> that could have been the cause too 22:00:10 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> yeah blame the not full trains 22:00:10 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> tha 22:00:20 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> that would explain why somethime a train would not load 22:00:34 <ProZone> <V453000> ah 22:00:36 <ProZone> <V453000> then yes 22:02:46 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> so loading capacity of 1 station is not that great :O 22:31:32 <ProZone> <V453000> well, gnight 22:31:38 <ProZone> <tycoondemon> nnt 22:31:42 <ProZone> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:47:38 <ProZone> *** tycoondemon has left the game (leaving) 22:47:40 <ProZone> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:50:48 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop.pro 22:50:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf