Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 5th July 2010:
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00:15:10  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> wtfh? no money? :O
00:15:24  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> building LLRR is expensive...
00:15:58  <Stablean> <Razmir> and useless with no trains :)
00:16:24  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I got trains, but I'm trying my first LLRR network :o
00:19:32  <Stablean> <Razmir> I would give you some money, but I need them, I am building harbour :)
00:19:48  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> ah np xD got some high income tankers, they are just slow
00:20:16  <Stablean> <Razmir> Kunrice pod Sedlem, two piers done
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00:41:31  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I already hate LLRR before I'm done xD
00:44:29  <Stablean> <Razmir> Ok, I am done, harbour done, city of the lost souls populating...
00:45:25  <Stablean> <Razmir> And btw, you are not building true LLRR, but two LRs
00:45:35  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> eh whatever xD
00:45:45  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> inner line is for loaded trains, outer for empty ones
00:45:48  <Stablean> <Razmir> since you have wood and gods on separate lines
00:45:51  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> no idea if that will work
00:46:21  <Stablean> <Razmir> it will somehow :)
00:46:47  <Stablean> <Razmir> gn
00:46:50  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> night
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06:59:35  <Tepo99> hi
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06:59:58  <Stablean> Autopilot engaged
06:59:58  <Stablean> Starting new game: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Stable ('
06:59:58  <Stablean> Landscape: temperate
06:59:58  <Stablean> Dimensions: 512x512
06:59:58  <Stablean> Starting year: 1945
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10:01:53  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> my network is weird but it seems to work somehow xD
10:01:59  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> like raz said last night lol
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10:11:09  <Ammler> !screen
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10:11:13  <Ammler> !url
10:11:13  <Stablean> Ammler:
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10:14:48  <Rubidium> have you applied the "one tile terraform" patch on this server?
10:15:02  <Ammler> hmm, I quess
10:15:09  <Ammler> g*
10:15:41  <BloodyRain2k> I think no :o but terraforming is very expensive
10:15:55  <BloodyRain2k> expensive enough to keep it to a minimum
10:16:06  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's made by base cost mod ;)
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10:16:10  <BloodyRain2k> i like that honestly more than these 50 tile limits
10:16:22  <Ammler> hmm, can you tf more than 1 edge at once?
10:16:35  <BloodyRain2k> oh you mean that, no :o 1 tile at once only
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10:16:54  <BloodyRain2k> wonder when V will come on, wanna have him rate my network, i think xD
10:16:55  <Rubidium> oh... you've totally broken land leveling...
10:17:34  <Ammler> Rubidium: it is a quite easy patch and it was unexpected easy accepted
10:18:03  <Rubidium> you forget to mention that it was "well tested"
10:18:19  <Ammler> well, the error message isn't really nice
10:18:33  <Ammler> but yes, we use it since 1.0.1
10:18:42  <Rubidium> the error message *is* correct
10:19:41  <Ammler> IMO, something like that could be in trunk ;-)
10:20:30  <Ammler> it just needs a proper setting and gui support
10:20:30  <Rubidium> and then in 10 minutes there'll be a patch that re-enables "it" again but just looping over all corners till they have the right height and sending a shitload of commands
10:20:53  <Rubidium> and as such... leveling one tile at a time is just the wrong way of doing it
10:20:55  <Ammler> Rubidium: yes, like c&p patch, do you care?
10:21:13  <BloodyRain2k> if you dont like it Rubi don't play here :o
10:21:15  <Rubidium> unless... you limit it to X levels per Y time
10:21:31  <Ammler> BloodyRain2k: that's not the point
10:21:32  <planetmaker> BloodyRain2k, mind that I do care about his opinion
10:21:33  <BloodyRain2k> I'm already used to it, rather 1 tile at once terraforming than 50 tile limit
10:21:37  <planetmaker> More than yours on this point
10:21:48  <BloodyRain2k> meh sorry <.< *already shuts up*
10:22:03  <Rubidium> BloodyRain2k: I don't play on the server, but I have to wade through bug reports like "level land is not working in 1.0.2"
10:22:14  <Ammler> :-o
10:22:18  <Ammler> someone reported that?
10:22:19  <Rubidium> just because someone patched his server in a way that totally breaks leveling
10:22:22  <Rubidium> Ammler: yes
10:22:28  <Ammler> :'-(
10:22:28  <planetmaker> meh
10:22:37  <Ammler> ticket number?
10:23:22  <Rubidium> 3927
10:23:26  <Ammler> I prefer our patch from the one Muxi made where the client desyncs on tf excess
10:23:45  <Rubidium> Muxy is just stupid
10:24:11  <Rubidium> and luukland is a nuisance
10:24:52  <BloodyRain2k> someone mind pointing me to where I can find bananas citybuilder for solo games? :o
10:25:02  <Ammler> hmm, that's indeed quite bad
10:25:14  <Ammler> as we setup this server also for bug hunting
10:25:27  <Tepo99> BloodyRain: try to search for it in online content
10:25:46  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I already did Tepo, didn't found a single grf with bananas in it >_<
10:26:20  <Tepo99> if that grf is on server, it must be avavible for single player too
10:26:40  <Ammler> I am sorry, Rubidium :-)
10:26:42  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> i have some but ex's ones didn't work for singleplayer i think
10:26:52  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> didn't try others yet
10:26:57  <Rubidium> BloodyRain2k: search for "city builder", not "citybuilder". Also it might very well be marked "valid" for only a few versions of OpenTTD
10:27:13  <Stablean> <Tepo> i've tested Ex's ins single player and it works fine IMO.
10:27:40  <BloodyRain2k> single player like normal solo game or like offline server? :o
10:27:49  <Ammler> Rubidium: but you also wouldn't like a "proper" patch doing something like that, what else could be done?
10:27:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> like solo game
10:28:08  <Ammler> the "ugly" patch worked quite well, else
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10:29:09  <Ammler> Maybe, there should be 2 versions, one for compatiblity, one the real version
10:29:17  <Rubidium> Ammler: huh?
10:29:29  <Ammler> so you see, when you join a patched server
10:29:57  * Rubidium got the feeling Ammler entered the C&P community
10:30:11  <Ammler> ?
10:30:44  <Ammler> well, the patch "fixed" the admin problem here
10:31:12  <Ammler> but it broke with dev "standard"
10:31:13  <BloodyRain2k> c&p = copy paste?
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10:32:58  <Ammler> so if trunk would support disabling drag&drop officially with for example also grey out the gui buttons
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10:34:07  <Stablean> <lol--lol> how late does these server start?
10:34:14  <Ammler> !date
10:34:14  <Stablean> Ammler: 11 Feb 2023
10:34:19  <Ammler> around 2050 mostly
10:34:33  <Ammler> but that depends on the activity, no auto restart
10:34:48  <BloodyRain2k> !players
10:34:51  <Stablean> BloodyRain2k: Client 369 (Red) is BloodyRain2k, in company 2 (BloodyRain2k Transport)
10:34:51  <Stablean> BloodyRain2k: Client 379 is lol--lol, a spectator
10:34:51  <Stablean> BloodyRain2k: Client 358 (White) is Terris, in company 9 (Terris Transport)
10:34:57  <Stablean> <lol--lol> ow ok
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10:38:31  <Ammler> Tepo99: why didn't you report that to us?
10:38:43  <Ammler> before you start a FS post
10:39:27  <Ammler> you should respect the hirarchy ;-)
10:39:29  <Stablean> <lol--lol> bloody nice round-around of boredom
10:39:31  <PeterT> @logs
10:39:31  <Webster> Logs:
10:39:40  <Ammler> and not go directly to the "boss" :-P
10:39:56  <PeterT> I see that Rubidium is calling Muxy stupid, I like this conversation :-D
10:40:02  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> dunno if its even good for anything lol but they waiting queue got shorter after i added it so i guess its ok :o
10:40:13  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> lol peter
10:40:23  <Ammler> PeterT: that is why this log isn't public
10:40:27  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> *the queue
10:40:35  <PeterT> Ammler: thank god :D
10:40:49  <BloodyRain2k> *has logging in irc on* XD
10:41:01  <PeterT> well, you are here anyway
10:41:05  <PeterT> at least muxy isn't here
10:41:17  <BloodyRain2k> dunno him so no reason to tell him :o
10:41:50  <Ammler> I wouldn't think, Rubi would care
10:42:20  <PeterT> 10:22:03  <Rubidium> BloodyRain2k: I don't play on the server, but I have to wade through bug reports like "level land is not working in 1.0.2" <-- :D :D :D :D :D :D
10:42:22  <BloodyRain2k> best thing to survive this heat is listening to techno like music on 120% speed and playing ottd xD
10:42:37  <PeterT> I don't think that Muxy would care either
10:42:55  <Ammler> PeterT: not really funny :-(
10:43:16  <BloodyRain2k> first time 1 tile tf was added here I thought it was broken too xD
10:43:25  <BloodyRain2k> just remembered that
10:43:26  <PeterT> I know, I feel bad for Rubi and laugh at the stupidity at the same time
10:43:38  <PeterT> (stupidity of the reporter)
10:43:46  <Ammler> which is Tepo99
10:44:03  <BloodyRain2k> !screen
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10:44:43  <BloodyRain2k> !screen
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10:45:06  <BloodyRain2k> seems like it doesnt wanna screen my round around of boredom
10:45:34  <PeterT> 10:23:26  <Ammler> I prefer our patch from the one Muxi made where the client desyncs on tf excess <-- that has never happened, I don't know where you've tested that
10:46:02  <Stablean> <lol--lol> ok
10:46:43  <Stablean> <lol--lol> wel i could join company 1 but that pass word is to difficult to remeber
10:46:49  <Tepo99> ammler: cause i had feeling it doesn't work in SP too, and  we were speaking about it here yesterday ;)
10:47:10  <Tepo99> just not with you
10:47:36  <Tepo99> and, okay, i am stupid, it isnt new for me :)
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10:48:12  <BloodyRain2k> if the company is abandoned change the pw :o
10:48:25  <BloodyRain2k> if the original owner comes back let him in again and it should be fine
10:48:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> lol--lol want to join me again? :)
10:48:50  <Stablean> <lol--lol> jess
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10:49:41  <Stablean> <lol--lol> s
10:50:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> write it on a piece of paper and have it next to your keyboard :)
10:50:31  <BloodyRain2k> or have tepo reinvite you after each disconnect xD
10:50:35  <Stablean> <lol--lol> i am setting it on ipod
10:50:37  <Stablean> <lol--lol> touch
10:51:03  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> anyone else heard that iPhone 4's antenna is fail?
10:51:41  <Stablean> <Terris> no.. my reign of terror is up lol :D
10:51:43  <Stablean> <lol--lol> and friend of mine has his iphone 3g updated to 4g
10:52:17  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> how that? :o isn't 4 a hardware technically different version than 3?
10:52:36  <Stablean> <lol--lol> jes i thought to but hey found some thing o thought
10:54:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> anyone here plays haulin?
10:54:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> 18 WoS Haulin'
10:54:49  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> you mean the company or is that a gamemode? :o
10:55:01  <Stablean> <Terris> what?
10:55:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's trucking game
10:55:13  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> ah
10:55:23  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> want road trains for here too xD
10:55:33  <Stablean> <Tepo> :D
10:56:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> try tro write: 18 wos haulin into youtube search
10:56:25  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, 18 wheels of steel is something I heard somewhere already ^^
10:56:39  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> just hauling didn't ring a bell except as tepos company name
10:58:25  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> damn slow wood wagons >_<
11:02:55  <Stablean> <lol--lol> tepo i am going to change some passengers line to maglev ok?
11:03:11  <BloodyRain2k> sawmills should create not only goods from wood but also wooden waste that can be transported to powerplants for fireing :o
11:03:36  <Stablean> <lol--lol> stablean there are some grf's for it
11:08:49  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> wtfh?
11:08:55  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> i had again missing rails :o
11:09:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> maybe ufo
11:09:14  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> either some mad admin is blowing up my rails or some aliens are stealing them
11:09:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> ufo as a disaster :)
11:09:46  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> meh <.<
11:09:52  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I know why I hate them xD
11:09:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> omfg
11:10:05  <Stablean> <Tepo> what is this?
11:10:27  <Stablean> <Tepo> at sign
11:10:37  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> which sign? XD
11:10:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> sign "what's this?"
11:11:12  <Stablean> <Tepo> have i another sign?
11:11:15  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> zomg ufo here again
11:11:45  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> and that thing you mean is called a serpentine :o
11:12:18  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> and the reason its only for the inner lines is cause the outer is used by empty trains
11:12:44  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm, that is  nice :)
11:12:54  <Ammler> [12:46] <Tepo99> ammler: cause i had feeling it doesn't work in SP too, and  we were speaking about it here yesterday  <--everybody should have known about that patch
11:12:54  <Stablean> <Tepo> but i saw nicer serpentines
11:13:05  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I know xD
11:13:19  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> i just wanted to have the trains not die there from steep slopes
11:13:20  <Ammler> @topic add We use 1tf patch here, don't report to FS
11:13:20  *** Webster changes topic to " #openttdcoop Welcome server. OpenTTD 1.0.2 | Admin channel (ask for op) | run !screen | We use 1tf patch here, don't report to FS"
11:13:44  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> *tracks the ufo to see what it blows up this time*
11:14:09  <Stablean> <Tepo> army playe
11:14:16  <Stablean> <Tepo> plane
11:14:19  <Ammler> hmm, ufo is not the best disaster for MP
11:14:28  <Stablean> <lol--lol> what do jou have whit ufo's man
11:14:38  <Ammler> !rcon list_settings disaster
11:14:38  <Stablean> Ammler: All settings with their current value:
11:14:38  <Stablean> Ammler: difficulty.disasters = 1
11:14:38  <Stablean> Ammler: Use 'setting' command to change a value
11:14:40  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> mostly not when you have disaster news off xD
11:14:47  <Stablean> <Tepo> ufo lands on rails and then it blows up
11:14:50  <Ammler> !rcon set difficulty.disasters 0
11:15:01  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> the damn ufos blew up my rails 2 times already
11:15:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> i have disaster news on
11:15:13  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> me too, now xD
11:15:29  <Ammler> Tepo99: the problem is, when it blows up tracks from someone not online right now
11:15:31  <Stablean> <Tepo> i allways play with disasters. it's more fun
11:15:54  <Tepo99> i know, i forgot to switch em off
11:16:02  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I forgot that they exist cause I deactived them before my ottd time xD
11:16:25  <Ammler> maybe you can patch the ufo so it only distroys tracks from online players :-)
11:16:32  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> lol
11:16:33  <Tepo99> :D
11:16:53  <Tepo99> !rcon set disasters
11:16:53  <Stablean> Tepo99: Current value for 'disasters' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 1)
11:16:54  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> or only from offline players XD would spare me the trouble
11:17:02  <Ammler> also a command like sendufoto would be nice :-P
11:17:09  <Tepo99> :D
11:17:24  <Tepo99> sendbigufoto <x;y> :D
11:17:28  <Ammler> so you can send the ufo to cheaters
11:17:52  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> for that there are admins with banhammer xD
11:17:53  <Tepo99> sendsmallufoto <RVnumber>
11:17:59  <Tepo99> XD
11:18:03  <Ammler> hehe, or send the ufo to the most terraformed place
11:18:12  <Tepo99> :D
11:18:35  <Tepo99> hmm, so dsasters are switched off now?
11:18:44  <Ammler> [13:14] <Ammler> !rcon set difficulty.disasters 0
11:18:55  <Tepo99> hmm, i was slow :)
11:19:15  <Tepo99> but thank you
11:19:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> hehe send ufo on that 4 rail railway :)
11:20:22  <Rubidium> Ammler: like C&P I'm not against the concept but against the current implementation of said concept
11:20:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> or we can just disable big ufos
11:20:46  <BloodyRain2k> or buy artilleries to shoot them down
11:21:03  <Tepo99> and put em on every loco :D
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11:21:10  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> lol
11:21:28  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> mhm, would make some sense since there are anti air guns for trains xD
11:23:01  <Stablean> <lol--lol> why are speel limet's on train wagons on?
11:23:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> i forgot to switch em off :)
11:23:31  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> bad tepo, don't forget it all the time XD
11:23:33  <Stablean> <Tepo> while i was creating a new map
11:23:48  <Stablean> <lol--lol> but jou sad map whas not from you
11:24:06  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> maybe another map and not this
11:24:24  <Stablean> <Tepo> this map is from me ;)
11:24:30  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> :o
11:25:18  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm, in ttdpatch there was option wich allowed you to set on only some disasters
11:27:27  <Stablean> <Tepo> at least i have red about it
11:31:06  <Stablean> <lol--lol> later
11:31:09  <Stablean> <Tepo> later
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11:33:18  <Rubidium> Ammler: but now it is said that we don't like the concept of C&P and you "just" said that we didn't like the concept of limiting terraforming, as such... there's a clear parallel which caused me to say you've become like the C&P people
11:34:00  <Ammler> ah, ok :-)
11:34:58  <Ammler> I thought, you don't like the concept
11:35:10  <Ammler> the implementation is ugly anyway
11:35:32  <Ammler> as it simply skips the command
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11:36:35  <Stablean> <Titanic> hello
11:38:09  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> stupid electric locs reverse again -.-
11:38:46  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yay, ufo blew up someone elses rails xD
11:39:05  <Stablean> <lol--lol> how do jou saw that?
11:39:15  <Stablean> <Titanic> lol
11:39:17  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> when it landed i opened a view for it
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12:25:51  <Tepo99> !players
12:25:53  <Stablean> Tepo99: Client 369 (Red) is BloodyRain2k, in company 2 (BloodyRain2k Transport)
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12:43:58  <planetmaker> hm... now Rubi is gone :S
12:44:21  <planetmaker> Left as there was nothing to gain here anymore
12:46:50  <Ammler> he was gone a long time already :-)
12:47:00  <Ammler> he just visited because of the FS post
12:47:57  <planetmaker> true
12:47:58  <planetmaker> :-)
12:48:06  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> truckstation of fail...
13:03:19  <Tepo99> BloodyRain2k: What do you think about this?
13:03:29  <BloodyRain2k> moo?
13:03:42  <Tepo99>
13:03:50  <Tepo99> sorry :) i forgot :)
13:04:06  <BloodyRain2k> cool :o
13:04:38  <Tepo99> but this is just photomontage
13:05:09  <Tepo99> i'll try to draw more trailers :)
13:05:10  <BloodyRain2k> looks like what i wanna have anyways xD
13:05:43  <Tepo99> you just need to find somebody, who can code it ;)
13:07:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> btw: nice traffic at Lhotovkov Wood Drop :)
13:08:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> i like watching this station working :)
13:08:28  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, I have to keep buying trains cause some forests increase their production which increases goods production too XD but I think it's near it's limit
13:09:07  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> the truckstation north west of it is total fail >_<
13:09:29  <Stablean> <Tepo> that waiting spaces for goods trains are clever
13:09:45  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, got that idea after I moved the depot anyways
13:10:00  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> plus these brake last sec unlike station entering ones :D
13:10:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> i think that station is okay
13:10:30  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> still wanna know what v thinks about it xD
13:10:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> it can just be a bit shorter :)
13:10:43  <planetmaker> <Tepo99> <-- not bad :-)
13:10:51  <Tepo99> thanks
13:10:55  <planetmaker> you could look at andy's HEQS code.
13:10:59  <planetmaker> He has trams like that
13:11:05  <Tepo99> How about that slaves? :D
13:11:10  <planetmaker> And a tram is just a road vehicle with one bit difference?
13:11:14  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> for my taste are the trains a bit too short :o i like tl 5 but shorter seem to be better
13:11:32  <Stablean> <Tepo> i mean that RV station can be shorter :)
13:11:36  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> oh xD
13:11:47  <Stablean> <Tepo> that last platforms aren't used
13:11:49  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, i think the rv ai isn't really that good for big stations
13:12:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's true
13:12:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> you should create a new patch finder for RVs XD
13:12:27  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> 2 drive by stations more and all vehicles could wait xD
13:12:55  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> lol I have not the slightest clue about the code or handling in ottd xD
13:13:05  <Stablean> <Tepo> :)
13:13:05  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I already have problems with trainnetworks ^^
13:13:57  <Tepo99> planetmaker: i was trying to code a simple building replacement, unsucessfully :D
13:14:39  <BloodyRain2k> I screw it already up sometimes by just selecting new grfs xD
13:15:02  <BloodyRain2k> gonna take a nap I think, heat's killing me
13:15:04  <Tepo99> and czech graphic designers and coders don't want to see this :)
13:15:36  <Tepo99> you should go to a swimming pool :)
13:16:00  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> maybe
13:17:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> hehe new steam loco in year  ×D
13:19:13  <planetmaker> Tepo99, kick your fellow CZ graphics designers and coders to upload finally their stuff to bananas
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13:20:04  <Tepo99> that's good idea, but some of graphics used in that sets ain't made by them
13:20:28  <Tepo99> for example CSD set is made by hydrolog and he is inactive now :(
13:20:28  <Ammler> and kick them to remove the openttd restriction from one of the station sets
13:20:45  <planetmaker> Well. IMHO it doesn't need any change of license or whatever. It just needs an author to upload it.
13:21:05  <planetmaker> OpenTTD restriction will make the set die :-)
13:21:17  <Ammler> planetmaker: I guess, they use ND-like license
13:21:26  <Tepo99> but how can author upload it when is he inactive?
13:21:34  <planetmaker> Given that my most recent newgrf causes TTDPatch to crash on perfectly valid newgrf code
13:21:46  <planetmaker> Tepo99, hardly ;-)
13:22:02  <Ammler> Tepo99: you can "continue" development on the set
13:22:08  <planetmaker> But a set is made by more than one person, right?
13:22:18  <Ammler> but because of ND, this isn't possible
13:22:20  <Tepo99> aure
13:22:23  <Tepo99> sure
13:22:24  <planetmaker> Ammler, not possible with CC-BY-ND
13:22:28  <Ammler> CZ sets are mostly for TRASH
13:22:47  <Tepo99> i don't think so
13:22:56  <planetmaker> license-wise ;-)
13:22:59  <Ammler> ^
13:23:08  <planetmaker> graphics-wise they're not bad
13:23:19  <Tepo99> i'll ask them now on IRC :)
13:23:21  <planetmaker> even coding-wise the CSD isn't bad either
13:23:48  <Ammler> ND and NC are worst things to use for community work
13:24:09  <planetmaker> yup
13:24:17  <planetmaker> especially ND
13:24:25  <Ammler> obviously :-)
13:24:28  <planetmaker> Though NC forbids me to use it, too, for my projects
13:24:53  <Tepo99> hmm, there isn't anybody active on tycoonez IRC Channel now :(
13:25:13  <Tepo99> they usually come in the evening
13:25:20  <Ammler> no hurry
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15:15:22  <_Tepo99_> fuckin' x-chat
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15:16:37  <planetmaker> Tepo99, then you use it wrongly
15:17:02  <planetmaker> This xchat here never dies. Or only dies when this computer re-boots, as such it runs like 180 days without interruption.
15:17:44  <BloodyRain2k> i only have trillian and chatzilla for irc xD
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15:25:27  <Tepo99> my computer has rebooted, but only thing i had to make was join as my other nick here and then it work :)
15:35:52  <PeterT> BloodyRain2k: get xchat, it's much better ;-P
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16:26:04  <Tepo99> !players
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18:55:34  <Tepo99> hey guys! another trailer for my road train: !
18:56:35  <BloodyRain2k> could need some of them, got some stations with too much wood xD
18:59:34  <Tepo99> :D
18:59:47  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> damn speedlimit >-<
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19:02:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> lets make next game without trains. I want to see, what can players create with only RVs :D
19:02:16  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> fine with me but v's gonna kick you xD
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19:02:28  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> but then also higher plane limit than 10 :o
19:02:31  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> and aviator
19:02:37  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> and FISH xD
19:02:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> planes are for noobs, but FISH isn't problem
19:03:05  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> could be really interesting
19:03:11  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> pff, planes are nice :o
19:03:17  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I like cargo planes
19:03:42  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> but meh, FISH and eGrav were also cool ^^
19:03:46  <Stablean> <Tepo> yeah, but everyone then builds only planes and then it isn't fun
19:04:01  <Stablean> <Tepo> eGrav?
19:04:08  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> mhm, make planes to expensive to let noobs use them
19:04:16  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> that vehicle package
19:04:26  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> eGRVTS
19:04:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> oh yes
19:04:41  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> can't keep more than eG in memory xD
19:04:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> i know it whole :P
19:05:06  <Stablean> <Tepo> extended Generic Road Vehicles and Tram Se :P
19:05:13  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> zomg, my inner lane to the sawmill is overloaded
19:05:15  <Stablean> <Tepo> Set
19:05:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> needs more rails :)
19:05:56  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> nah, faster station... but space is rare xD
19:06:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> and that crossing isn't good
19:06:29  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> which, my hub of omg?
19:06:36  <Stablean> <Tepo> V will kill you for that XD
19:06:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> at sign
19:06:50  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> its only low frequency
19:07:08  <Stablean> <Tepo> but still it's blocking sometimes
19:07:10  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> only 2 wood lines with 3 trains
19:07:28  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> even if :O it shouldn't be blocking something else than these wood trains
19:07:43  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> which are low prio due to their close proximity anyways
19:07:57  <Stablean> <Tepo> connect it at sgn
19:08:16  <Stablean> <Tepo> it will create more waiting space for your trains
19:09:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> i mean this way
19:10:16  <Stablean> <Tepo> can i join your company?
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19:11:14  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> this station runs atleast much better than my normal ones xD
19:11:33  <Stablean> <Tepo> i mean this way
19:11:36  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> oh  that xD
19:11:47  <Stablean> <Tepo> it should be faster
19:11:55  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah maybe it helps a bit but its at its limit anyways
19:12:17  <Stablean> <Tepo> cause two trains can from main line can enter that station at once now :)
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19:13:20  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I would need an 8 track unloading station :o
19:13:34  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> nexttime I'll make it 8 8 or atleast 6 6
19:13:42  <Stablean> <Tepo> you can rebuild it at sign
19:13:57  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> nah, too lazy for that xD
19:14:07  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I'll try to do it better nexttime ^^
19:14:09  <Stablean> <Tepo> that can be problem :)
19:14:44  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> maybe I also add a reservation area for the unloader too
19:15:00  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> and make the reservation for the loader 2 trains instead of 1
19:15:32  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> well screw it if
19:15:38  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> mmh yeah
19:15:44  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> forgot we have a high spread limig
19:17:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm
19:18:00  <Stablean> <Tepo> omg
19:18:06  <Stablean> <Tepo> why have you connected it?
19:18:21  <Stablean> <Tepo> it wasn't finished ;)
19:18:24  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> cause I'm that way xD
19:19:07  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm, i was going to connect it to goods trains XD
19:19:35  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah careful, this network only works if you lead empty trains to the outer and full trains to the inner line
19:19:39  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> if not you fuck it up xD
19:20:01  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> some replaces already did that, empty trains did then a round of boredom through out the network
19:21:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> this will be better
19:21:14  <Stablean> <Tepo> one train to the left, one train to the right
19:21:20  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I think i need another load of good trains xD
19:21:44  <Stablean> <Tepo> lol copyright?
19:21:46  <Stablean> <Tepo> :D
19:22:04  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, wouldn't have thought of that xD
19:23:43  <Stablean> <Tepo> here you are
19:24:00  <Stablean> <Tepo> another loading platforms for goods trains :)
19:24:18  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> have to fix the unloading for goods atm XD ill look after that
19:24:34  <Stablean> <Tepo> kinda bussy now :D
19:27:27  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I think I kick the wood trains that run through the goods out <.<
19:30:27  <Stablean> <Tepo> i've finished that upgrade of goods unloading station :)
19:30:43  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> thx
19:31:09  <Stablean> <Tepo> but it still isn't using full capacity
19:31:11  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> seems smoother, there were also some signals missing at the merge with the ml :o that was the real bottle neck
19:31:36  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> extend as you wish xD
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19:33:17  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> now the 2 wood lines near the sawmill block the empty trains xD
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19:34:24  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's better than if they block full trains :)
19:34:30  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yup
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19:35:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> that goods trains are exiting soooo slowly that unloading station :)
19:36:28  <Stablean> <Tepo> omg
19:36:54  <Stablean> <Tepo> what happend to train 60?
19:36:56  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> they are also damn slow <.<
19:36:58  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> no idea xD
19:37:13  <Stablean> <Tepo> let it run :)
19:37:37  <Stablean> <Tepo> it will come to unloading station :)
19:37:44  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> sooner or later xD
19:37:58  <Stablean> <Tepo> better will be if sooner :)
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19:39:12  <Stablean> <Tepo> hehe, he will never play :)
19:41:00  <planetmaker> Ammler: is the server still patched?
19:42:11  <Stablean> <Tepo> that round-around of boredom is still unused :)
19:42:26  <Stablean> <Tepo> that's good
19:42:30  <Ammler> @topic get -1
19:42:30  <Webster> Ammler: We use 1tf patch here, don't report to FS
19:42:33  <Ammler> planetmaker: ^
19:42:34  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, the good trains get stuck somewhere
19:42:52  <PeterT> omg lol
19:43:02  <Stablean> <Tepo> at your hub of zomg :D
19:43:04  <PeterT> it's funny that we even *need* to mention that D:
19:43:10  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> seems so
19:43:11  <PeterT> s/funny/sucky/
19:43:26  <Stablean> <Tepo> got an ide
19:43:32  <Stablean> <Tepo> idea
19:43:35  <Ammler> PeterT: you already said that, no read to repeat
19:43:37  <Stablean> <Tepo> second rail :)
19:43:48  <planetmaker> Ammler: I'm asking as there's a guy with this wrong company in DoCommand. And... he reports kinda in OpenTTD
19:43:50  <PeterT> Ammler: no I didn't
19:44:19  <Ammler> planetmaker: that isn't this patch
19:44:25  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> if you need access to the inner ml just blow up the outer xD the empty ones can wait a bit
19:44:28  <Ammler> but we have also the logging patch
19:44:29  <planetmaker> yes
19:44:32  <planetmaker> still
19:44:52  <Stablean> <Tepo> i think this shouldn't be a problem :)
19:45:06  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> signalable bridges would be cool, hope we get them someday
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19:45:27  <Ammler> planetmaker: I think, there is no need to "unpatch" this server again, we can do that with next release
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19:45:34  <Ammler> specially not while a game is running
19:45:56  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> nexttime i should design the hub bigger xD
19:46:29  <Stablean> <Tepo> you say only: next time i wil do..., next time i will build... :D
19:46:47  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, I try to not make the mistakes again, mosttimes it works xD
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19:47:08  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm, forest in the way
19:47:20  <Stablean> <Tepo> player: try to change your nick :)
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19:47:32  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> or your connection
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19:48:52  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> the trains remind me of ants
19:48:55  <planetmaker> !info
19:48:55  <Stablean> planetmaker:
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19:49:07  <Stablean> <Tepo> i should create a hole in the city :D
19:49:15  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> xD
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19:52:02  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> they don't like the new line
19:52:10  <Stablean> <Tepo> they should now :)
19:52:12  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, thought that way before
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19:52:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> but they are going via that old :(
19:53:06  <Stablean> <Tepo> maybe its caused by lots of bridges :)
19:53:13  <Stablean> <Tepo> on that new
19:53:19  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I think more by the fact the new one is slightly longer
19:53:21  <Stablean> <Tepo> but it should not be problem now
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19:53:35  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yup, should be ok
19:53:41  <Stablean> <Tepo> when they will stack there, they will use that new :)
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19:55:06  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> some wood trains seem to be delayed, there's wood stacking up
19:55:29  <Stablean> <Tepo> or maybe forests incerased production again :)
19:55:51  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> whatever it is, I can't simply slap more trains in :o
19:56:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> why?
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19:59:37  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm
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20:00:30  <Stablean> <Tepo> lag like a whole america :D
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20:01:35  <Stablean> <Tepo> it works correctly now (or at least as i wanted) :)
20:01:41  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> ah now i get it, no waiting space but a retour if loaded
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20:02:23  <Stablean> <Tepo> that pre signals are good idea, i forgot them :)
20:02:53  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> seems like they don't care sometimes xD
20:02:59  <Stablean> <Tepo> never mind
20:04:00  <Stablean> <Tepo> or no :)
20:04:26  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> *throws random prio builts into the network* X3
20:05:00  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> I think now the outer unload is overloaded...
20:05:15  <Stablean> <Tepo> but can't they use middle rail as a waiting space?
20:05:25  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> would be better I think
20:05:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> never mind for me :)
20:05:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> i meant before
20:05:51  <Stablean> <Tepo> when there was that prio
20:06:03  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> eh whatever xD
20:06:14  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> if it screws we can still revert
20:06:30  <Stablean> <Tepo> if it screws, we can still start a new game :)
20:06:40  <Stablean> <Tepo> this is kinda done
20:07:11  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> we need hover trains like in back to the future xD
20:07:29  <Stablean> <Tepo> that airplane crashes are reasons why i don't build planes
20:07:43  <Stablean> <Tepo> you mean that film?
20:08:02  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yup, in the 2nd or 3rd part there was a timetraveling hovering train :o
20:08:24  <Stablean> <Tepo> yes, that was nice
20:09:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> that part when they used train to travell back by jumping down from unfinished bridge?
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20:10:02  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, with the red yellow green bombs for firing up the steam hearter
20:10:04  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> *heater
20:11:16  <Stablean> <Tepo> i think best part was that, with auto obligated laces and weather controller :)
20:12:41  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm, round-around of bredom is used again :)
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20:15:24  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> prio doesn't work if its not two way
20:15:38  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm, i don't see any prio :)
20:15:44  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> red combo 2way is worse than green exit
20:16:05  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> if no platform is free they round about :o
20:16:27  <Stablean> <Tepo> hmm, wood unloading extension is overloaded :)
20:16:45  <Stablean> <Tepo> but this time at exit
20:17:11  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> yeah, they can't get out fast enough plus sometimes wood trains block empty ones
20:17:25  <Stablean> <Tepo> it blocks that station too
20:17:29  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> if just blues station would be gone <.<
20:17:53  <Stablean> <Tepo> don't need to be
20:18:03  <Stablean> <Tepo> just go around blue's station
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20:19:58  <Stablean> <Tepo> now it should be better :)
20:20:09  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> we'll see xD
20:21:58  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> weird, they prefer to go to load extension than into waiting space of the original
20:22:22  <Stablean> <Tepo> i don't see problem there
20:22:32  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> don't know if thats a problem
20:22:46  <Stablean> <Tepo> i don't think it's problem
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20:26:10  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> ok, now it will get ugly, gonna replace the locs to stronger  ones with better accel xD
20:26:48  <Stablean> <Tepo> do it, i must leave, its 10:30 PM here.
20:26:55  <Stablean> <Tepo> bye
20:26:57  <Stablean> <BloodyRain2k> ok :o laters, and thanks for your help ^^
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20:27:20  <Tepo99> no problem, at least i wasn't bored :)
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