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I am also terraforming a little much. :x 10:52:56 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I can see you do some TF 10:53:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But, I am also building tunnels on the way. So, it should get easier to cross the huge ass track. 10:53:21 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 10:53:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> At the moment, I am working at crossing your line spaceous, so you can expand it if you want. 10:53:31 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 10:53:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Some massive terraforming involved, though. s: 10:54:03 <Stablean> <Mks> I am not gona connect alot of cities Ithink 10:54:13 <Stablean> <Mks> might connect one to deliver goods but 10:54:17 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But that TF will yield some viaduct like bridges. =D 10:54:23 <Stablean> <Mks> not sure if my line can handle tracks enough 10:54:57 <Stablean> <Mks> I am not really in the mood of building a 3x3 line so 10:55:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, it's done. 10:55:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 10:55:29 <Stablean> <Mks> cause it means I would have to rebuild every crossing 10:56:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, this viaduct gives you enough space to expand to 8x 10:56:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> ;) 10:56:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Even 10x 10:56:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 10:57:50 <Stablean> <Mks> well the problem isn't really the line its the stations and the junctions 10:57:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah 11:01:34 <Stablean> <Mks> its one thing if you build a 3x3 line from the start then its easier to build then to rebuild to 3x line 11:02:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, if your network is wholebuilt, its gonna be a bitch to rebuild it. 11:02:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 11:03:26 <Stablean> <Mks> well my tracks aren't really full yet so shouldn't be a problem 11:08:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hah! 11:08:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Go to here 11:08:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> There are already farms growing 11:08:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 11:08:29 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And look at the viaduct =D 11:08:48 <Stablean> <Mks> lots of tunnels and bridges 11:09:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, it's the viaduct that crosses your line 11:09:12 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The tunnels behind there 11:09:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I had to TF some to get them done. 11:09:26 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And farm are already occupying it. :D 11:09:33 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 11:09:47 <Stablean> <Mks> your almsot out of money now :P 11:09:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Still 11m 11:09:55 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 11:10:12 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 11:10:23 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello. 11:10:25 <Stablean> <Henri> hi 11:11:31 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 11:17:46 <Stablean> *** gar_DE joined the game 11:17:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello :o 11:22:16 <Stablean> <Mks> gah removed all signals by accident :P 11:22:23 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> rofl :p 11:22:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Especially you, who shouted out about the signal costs first. XD 11:22:47 <Stablean> <Mks> well 11:22:53 <Stablean> <Mks> money isn't a issue atm so 11:22:55 <Stablean> <Mks> doesn't matter now but 11:22:57 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I know :p 11:23:07 <Stablean> <Mks> lots of trains so a pain to put the signals back 11:23:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :x 11:27:38 <Stablean> <Mks> mm isn't 3CEX AC (Combined Cycle) a nice loco for you? 11:27:45 <Stablean> <Mks> 120km_/h to speed 11:27:52 <Stablean> <Mks> 24 000 hp 11:28:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I kinda like it, because it's cool. 11:28:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 11:28:23 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 11:28:29 <Stablean> <Mks> and mm lots of traction on it as well 11:28:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But I'd like this line to be a shinkansen line. x: 11:28:44 <Stablean> <Mks> why don't you make it shinkasen then? 11:28:55 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am talking about the huge line I am building. 11:29:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It doesn't have any trains yet. XD 11:29:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The smaller pax lines will have all that japanese short distance rolling stock goodness. 11:30:42 <Stablean> <Mks> well you haven't built shinkasen tracks tho 11:30:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, it's not completely flat. 11:31:30 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But from what I gathered, forcing completely flat lines is rather discouraged here. 11:31:37 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I didn't want to terraform to get a completely flat track. 11:31:47 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 11:31:49 <Stablean> <Mks> but I mean 11:31:55 <Stablean> <Mks> the ingame shinkasen tracks 11:31:55 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I mostly terraformed for fun and to leave space for people (tunnels) 11:32:06 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 11:32:12 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And to get around obstacles, of course. 11:32:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> (tunneling under it) 11:32:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, you mean the looks? 11:32:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> How can I choose a different rail style? o: 11:32:58 <Stablean> *** Emiel joined the game 11:32:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello :o 11:32:59 <Stablean> <Mks> well if you build maglev tracks 11:33:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Ah, you mean that. 11:33:08 <Stablean> <Mks> you get the shinkasen tracks 11:33:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hah, well, yeah, I could upgrade my system. 11:35:54 <Stablean> *** Emiel has left the game (connection lost) 11:36:31 <Stablean> <Mks> is 8 plattforms enough for a terminus station? 11:36:58 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, one plattform is enough for a terminus station if you throughput is small enough, isn't it? XD 11:37:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's all about the throughput you are going to g et. 11:37:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But, for this 8 track system 11:37:22 <Stablean> <Mks> well lots of trains I guess 11:37:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I have my doubts it will be enough 11:37:34 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But we have station spread 14 11:38:06 <Stablean> <Mks> I'll do a 14 station instead :P 11:38:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> There will connect: 1 "platform" of trams and at least 2 short distance line platforms. 11:38:53 <Stablean> *** gar_DE has left the game (leaving) 11:38:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> So, the max I could do would be 11 platforms for the shinkansen line. 11:39:09 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 11:39:10 <Stablean> <Mks> I'll do a 12 plattform thingie 11:39:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That's the problem, that doesn't work. 11:39:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Just a metro of two platforms connecting to it would simply overload. 11:39:55 <Stablean> <Mks> why not? 11:45:50 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #5 11:48:38 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 11:49:18 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 11:49:23 <Stablean> <Mks> mm lousy trams this game? 11:49:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The normal ones. 11:49:40 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> .. I guess. 11:49:52 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I'm a fan of the dutch tramset. XDD 11:49:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *XD 11:49:56 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 11:50:55 <Stablean> <Mks> mm maglev tracks but not shinkasen tracks strange 11:58:55 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 11:59:13 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 12:02:44 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 12:03:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello :o 12:03:10 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hi 12:08:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 12:08:46 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 12:10:19 <V453000> !rcon set max_station_spread 12:10:19 <Stablean> V453000: 'max_station_spread' is an unknown setting. 12:10:25 <V453000> !rcon set station_spread 12:10:26 <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'station_spread' is: '14' (min: 4, max: 64) 12:11:24 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:11:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o XeryusTC 12:19:20 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:19:25 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> a 12:19:27 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 12:19:47 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 12:19:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello 12:20:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 12:26:51 <Stablean> <Mks> you here azir? 12:26:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yes 12:27:07 <Stablean> <Mks> seems there was no shinkasen track grf this time? 12:27:15 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Seems so. 12:28:07 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 12:28:27 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 12:30:40 <V453000> hmm, who set station spread to 14? 12:30:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> planetmaker 12:30:51 <Stablean> <Mks> was ammler I think 12:30:57 <Stablean> <Mks> or planetmaker 12:31:14 <V453000> I wonder why, but whatever 12:31:48 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> He joined in to the discussion on station spread we had and decided to change it. 12:32:54 <Stablean> <Mks> strange 12:33:00 <Stablean> <Mks> when you build maglev 12:33:10 <V453000> yes, landscape and train set is reversed 12:33:12 <Stablean> <Mks> it looks like the shinkasen tracks on the button 12:33:25 <V453000> I forgot that the grf order depends there 12:33:25 <Stablean> <Mks> but no shinkasen tracks its maglev 12:33:31 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 12:33:44 <V453000> narrow gauges are not there either 12:34:00 <V453000> although bridges may be "normal" 12:34:10 <Stablean> <Mks> whats narrow gauge? 12:34:15 <V453000> rail set 12:34:22 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 12:34:25 <V453000> the normal rails, but narrower 12:34:33 <Stablean> <Mks> I see 12:35:38 <Stablean> *** Seriously joined the game 12:36:41 <Stablean> *** Seriously has left the game (leaving) 12:36:57 <Stablean> <Mks> mm why did my oil wheel dissapear 12:37:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :x 12:37:56 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Maybe a shinkansen fell into it and plugged the oil pipe -> facily went bankrupt. 12:37:58 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 12:38:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *facility. s: 12:38:18 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 joined the game 12:38:19 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 12:39:49 <Stablean> <Mks> seems my 10 plattform power plant station is needed 12:40:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 12:41:47 <V453000> Mks: that doesnt have to do anything with station spread btw :p 12:42:03 <Stablean> <Mks> I know 12:42:05 <Stablean> <Mks> but 12:42:11 <Stablean> <Mks> but I might need 12 :) 12:42:27 <V453000> I said nothing to do :p 12:42:36 <V453000> you can make a waypoint in front of the station complex 12:42:41 <V453000> and then make as many platforms as you want 12:42:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> why dont build longer trains? 12:42:49 <V453000> and end it with another waypoint 12:42:55 <Stablean> <Mks> mm 12:43:05 <Stablean> <Mks> how will it unload then? 12:43:06 <V453000> 1. go non-stop via entrance WP, 2. go via exit WP 12:43:08 <V453000> easy 12:43:17 <V453000> as long as there is a demand, it will be unloaded automatically 12:43:22 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh but you can't do that at a load station right? 12:43:29 <V453000> well 12:43:33 <V453000> kind of not 12:43:47 <Stablean> <Mks> well V always complain about long trains 12:43:53 <Stablean> <Mks> so I made short this time 12:43:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 12:44:17 <V453000> I dont care what you do I am just telling you my opinion 12:44:40 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I know but you don't like long trains :P 12:45:07 <V453000> that is quite true :) 12:45:21 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I like long trains. 12:45:21 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 12:45:33 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah you like long slow trains :P 12:45:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 12:48:05 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 has left the game (connection lost) 12:48:19 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 12:53:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm 12:53:26 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 12:53:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hmm? 12:53:44 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 12:53:48 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined company #2 12:53:56 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> troy mcclure transport to be sold off... 12:53:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> etc 12:54:16 <Stablean> <Mks> well you had a negative amount of cash I guess? 12:54:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Problem solved. 12:54:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 12:54:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> uhm, thanks 12:54:37 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Sorry if you didn't want it, I should have asked first. s: 12:54:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill pay you back in due time 12:54:59 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if time permits it 12:55:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You don't have to, lol.. 12:55:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *lol. 12:55:12 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Didnt mean to make two dots. x: 12:55:37 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 12:55:45 <Stablean> <V453000> hi there 12:55:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hellow 12:56:10 <Stablean> <V453000> hehe the tracks are nicely screwd up 12:56:12 <Stablean> <V453000> sorry for that :) 12:56:19 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 12:56:27 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah they are not even full maglev some kinda of mix 12:56:59 <Stablean> <V453000> I see 12:58:39 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 12:58:57 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:03:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#7) 13:03:57 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =O 13:04:01 <Stablean> <V453000> Aziroshin: see for example train E233 and try to refit it :p 13:04:05 <Stablean> <V453000> you will like that :) 13:04:07 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:04:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =O 13:07:17 <V453000> many others have it too :p 13:07:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, I've seen the older Shinkansen have such an option. 13:08:17 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Ah, nice to see someone already harnesses the fact that some of my line is underground. =D 13:08:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ;p 13:08:58 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's the reason why I've left some more space around the facilities I tunneled under. 13:09:10 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 13:09:20 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:14:39 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> wah, cool!! 13:14:46 <Stablean> <Mks> what? 13:14:48 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You can bridge over rice paddies without them getting removed. =D 13:14:58 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 13:15:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Looks so nice. 13:15:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> My bridge is standing in all those rice paddies. x3 13:15:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But two rice paddies are missing. :( 13:15:34 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> regrow!! 13:16:28 <V453000> Aziroshin: call a local psychiatrist please :D :P 13:16:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 13:16:45 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> What should I say when I call him? 13:16:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Two rice paddies are not regrowing!! 13:16:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> halp!!! 13:17:30 <V453000> exactly :D 13:17:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> .. xD 13:18:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> t3h precious ricepaddies. :[ 13:19:03 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 13:19:20 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:28:06 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 13:28:21 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:28:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #5 13:29:37 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Sigh 13:29:47 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Troy, you're building a little close. :p 13:29:53 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where at? 13:30:01 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Tunnington heights. 13:30:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I planned to grow and metro the cities mutown, tunnington and Quardhattan. Tunnington Heights would ahve to be e xtended 13:30:29 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> to be able to take the metro feeds. 13:30:47 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> This means that Tunnington heights will use the entire maximum of station spread. 13:30:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wait let me think abou tit 13:31:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 13:31:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay. 13:31:19 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Thanks. 13:32:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Do you plan on taking these cities now btw? 13:32:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> taking cities? 13:32:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what do you mean? 13:32:37 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, taking as in networking and growing. 13:32:47 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, i want to let them grow 13:32:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but i dont want to that alone per se 13:33:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> btw, do you really need 14 platforms? 13:33:47 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I planned to grow these three cities to quite big sizes and build metro networks of their own inside of them. 13:33:57 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am rather affraid that huge station could not be enough at some point. :p 13:34:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hmm, thats far in the future, isnt it? 13:34:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but okay 13:34:26 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I would have to finish the other station 13:34:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Then I would be able to start with the cities. 13:34:40 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> However, I wont have much time today anymore. 13:35:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you cant build on other peoples road, can you? 13:35:31 <Stablean> <Mks> you can't 13:35:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why? 13:35:43 <Stablean> <Mks> busses and such can use them but you can't build stations or such 13:35:54 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can turn it on 13:36:01 <Stablean> <Mks> cause the company owns the roads your not allowed to build on em then 13:36:33 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i get that, but why isnt it turned on 13:36:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you can turn it on 13:36:50 <Stablean> <Mks> no 13:36:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well,now not no 13:37:04 <Stablean> <Mks> you can turn off city owned drive through stations 13:37:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but it is an option in the advanced settings 13:37:16 <Stablean> <Mks> its not 13:37:32 <Stablean> <Mks> only way to make that possible is to use the IS patch 13:37:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> stations>allow drive -through road stops on roads owned by competitors>off 13:38:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> why do I see it in the advanced settings, if it is not really an option? 13:38:48 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 13:38:54 <Stablean> <Mks> not sure what that does 13:38:54 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 joined the game 13:39:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I wont be able to extend my tram network there now. 13:39:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> you're not sure what that option does? 13:39:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> it says so 13:39:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Thanks 13:40:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am really a little affraid my metro plans will be crossed out. =\ 13:40:06 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> i do need some roads tho, later 13:40:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I kinda planned this for many centuries. 13:40:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> but i will just build the stations then, and you build the road connecting them? 13:40:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, we will have to decide who builds where I guess. 13:41:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I intend to feed that huge station there with loads of passengers. 13:41:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> can you build the roads between them 13:42:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Building the metro and planning the city takes me some time. 13:42:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It got even harder now, I am not sure what to decide on now. =\ 13:44:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> you should be able to extend the tramways now 13:44:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Tramways can be built on other's roads 13:44:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But I wont be able to build stations 13:44:51 <Stablean> <Troy McClure #1> i kept the number of roads to a minimum 13:48:07 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure #1 has left the game (connection lost) 13:49:20 <Ammler> !playercount 13:49:21 <Stablean> Ammler: Number of players: 4 13:56:14 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 13:57:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> you wis to connect frufingbridge and Gredinghead too? 13:57:10 *** Vitus has quit IRC 13:57:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am going to abondon them. 13:57:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so no problem if I connect them? 13:57:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You can. 13:58:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I just built stuff there to buidl up reputation my track building might ruin. 13:58:48 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:01:17 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Do you need a lot of room down there? 14:01:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> where? 14:01:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The three cities. 14:01:42 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> tunnford, ltl drendhead and mutown? 14:01:45 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yes 14:02:09 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, its just so they develop on the other side of the station too 14:02:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> built extra roads to expand to 4 track station, if desired 14:02:40 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> So, these stations are all you will be going to build? 14:02:55 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> On how many bus stations are you planning? 14:03:39 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so i dont act like one 14:03:41 <Stablean> <Mks> whats up with these oil wheels 100% serviced and still dissapear 14:04:01 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> oil wells are the history 14:04:15 <Stablean> <Mks> why? 14:04:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> instead, oilfields are taking over 14:04:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont know, game mechanics 14:04:31 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 14:04:37 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its on solo too 14:04:37 <Stablean> <Mks> there is a grf for it tho aint it? 14:04:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I'll let you finish your train network down there. 14:10:15 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> um, would you remove the tramway tracks in those cities you left behind, too? 14:10:22 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Sure. 14:10:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I thought you might find it useful. XD 14:10:35 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cant build stations on it 14:10:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yuck 14:11:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> If you want to have a 4 track station in tunnington 14:11:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Build it now. :p 14:11:32 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thinking... 14:11:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> see sign 14:12:19 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> this is the station area 14:12:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> so yes? 14:12:31 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> See, i was going to use the entire area you are building on right now. 14:12:45 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am just adapting, gnawing my teeth doing so. :p 14:13:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I've planned on this from like the 60s or something. 14:15:01 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Don't bend yourself too much now. 14:15:11 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Even if you build there, these three cities were going to be part of one huge network. 14:15:22 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> If you really want to build in these three cities, I will have to adapt 14:15:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> no matter what. 14:15:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> those cities are still small and have plenty of space to expand 14:16:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> plus, they dont already have a big station next to it 14:16:23 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I can't do everything at once. 14:16:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Also, I am not playing nonstop. :p 14:16:44 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> So, if you want to build there, I will have to adapt. So, I'll adapt. 14:16:50 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, if you want, i can join you? 14:17:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well? 14:17:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I wont mind cooperating. But I'd rather like doing it from the beginning. =\ 14:18:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The things I want to build will still have to be adapted. 14:18:18 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> what if i let myself be broke 14:18:24 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and you take me over? 14:18:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Nah, no reason to. I'd rather stuff you with money so you can move to different cities without issues. :p 14:18:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> youll already have the netweork 14:19:08 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but if we cooperate, you would still have a say in those cities, i move to 14:19:26 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I only planned for the cities I connected already 14:19:29 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> its one of the reason why I connected all of them. 14:19:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I don't care about all the other cities on the map. o: 14:19:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You can have the mall. 14:19:52 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 14:20:23 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You can even build in the c ities I connected, it's just that I won't like it. It's not like I have any right to reserve anything or something. 14:20:49 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> but you would like those bottom 3 cities too? tunnford etc.. 14:21:36 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, the three cities I would have connected. 14:21:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> If I would not have been that slow or played all the time since map start, I guess the network there would be already standing in part at least. 14:22:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> well, im renewing my offer: my network for cooperation 14:23:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But we build seperate? 14:23:10 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you would like that 14:23:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Fine. 14:23:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 14:23:49 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 14:23:54 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #5 14:24:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 14:25:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The bankrupcy train 14:25:54 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 14:25:56 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I guess I should have put up a sign that I intended stuff there. But, I am not sure whether people would respect that anyway. s: 14:28:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It is losing money in an extremely slow fashion 14:28:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Go and build an airplane. 14:28:37 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> :p 14:28:47 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #5 14:29:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> cras? 14:30:11 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Uhm, I have no idea about the airplanes in the game 14:30:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Any airplane should ruin your company in an instant. 14:30:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Except it's earning a lot, of course. 14:30:28 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, im seein it 14:30:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Just shut down the plane in an instant as soon as we take over. 14:30:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 14:31:05 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has joined company #1 14:31:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ah, there we go 14:31:31 <Stablean> <greenlion> wow, condorde on small airport :) 14:31:41 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 14:32:48 <Stablean> <Mks> well you can't make profit with airplanes on this server 14:32:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> thats not the idea 14:33:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But you can go bankrupt quickly. 14:33:01 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 14:33:15 <Stablean> <Mks> yes ofc 14:33:29 <Stablean> <Mks> unless you make ALOTof money then you can have a few airplanes 14:34:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> airports should be changed to not have any catching area at all. 14:34:12 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> They would have to be fed. 14:34:14 <Stablean> <Mks> that makes no sense 14:34:28 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean some airports are acually inside the city 14:34:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, okay, a very small catching area. 14:34:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i wanna buy... 14:35:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It didn't pop up so far. 14:35:39 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay. 14:35:52 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 14:36:20 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Mind if I redesign stuff down there? 14:36:26 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> no, go ahead 14:36:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Good. 14:36:54 <Stablean> <Mks> yellow is taking over the map 14:37:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, we are cooperating. 14:37:13 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah I know 14:40:30 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> brb, client restart. 14:40:34 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has left the game (connection lost) 14:41:01 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin joined the game 14:41:05 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has joined company #1 15:07:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay, my station is hosed. In the middle of the building site, a forest appeared. 15:07:52 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xP 15:08:05 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that sucks 15:08:07 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:08:29 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:09:56 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> it will take centuries for it to disappear.. 15:10:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> near tunington heights 15:10:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> or where? 15:10:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Pondinghall 15:11:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> brain cracker 15:11:20 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> dont know how to solve it 15:11:26 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> perhaps build around it 15:11:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> There is only one solution 15:11:34 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The station will have to move. 15:11:56 <Stablean> <greenlion> build under? 15:11:58 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But I used most of my reputation with the city. 15:12:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Thats the problem 15:12:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Its the station 15:12:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> There are going to be lots of junctions, bridges, signals.. 15:12:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I cant make that underground. 15:12:34 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And stretching it into the track would kinda defeat everything efficient I've built into it. 15:13:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It means I won't be able to comlete the project for long. 15:13:47 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I first will have to rebuild my reputation with the city. 15:13:58 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> that shouldnt be too hard 15:14:12 <Stablean> <greenlion> can you move station to lartburg springs? 15:14:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> destroy everything (that isnt yours) in the surrounding 15:14:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> and then 15:14:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> TREEESSSSSS 15:14:30 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Won't destroying trees break my reputation throw the floor? :p 15:14:39 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *through 15:14:41 <Stablean> <greenlion> or bribe... 15:14:52 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yes, but when you replant all those trees, it will be better 15:15:00 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> because you cant go below appalling 15:15:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am considering bribing, but I really object it. 15:15:16 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> okay, let me try and it 15:15:23 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> its wronnley market? 15:15:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I dont want bribery 15:15:29 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Dx 15:16:26 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> .. it really works. Cheat. xP 15:16:29 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> wronnley market>good 15:17:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Nice to see it works, but let's not do it again. It's kinda an endless device of reputation. 15:18:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That forest offered 270t before, now it offers 117t 15:18:08 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:18:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Who knows, maybe it's going to go away. =D 15:18:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Even though I have to admit, that the station is not perfectly positioned anyway. 15:18:32 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:29:17 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:29:34 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:33:17 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 15:34:26 <Stablean> *** Energizer has left the game (connection lost) 15:38:05 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:38:39 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:46:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Pondinghall station 15:46:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I kinda finished the skelegton 15:46:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *skeleton 15:47:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Ah, the coal lines were just there to get money early on. 15:48:44 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:56 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 15:51:07 <Stablean> Server has exited 15:51:08 *** Stablean has quit IRC 15:51:35 <Mks> gah 15:51:39 <Mks> did the server crash? 15:51:51 <greenlion> :( 15:53:45 <Mks> !date 15:55:55 *** Aziroshin has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:27:49 <Ammler> seg fault 16:31:09 <Ammler> [2010-09-11 17:51:01] CmdStartStopVehicle Mks date:2044-04-05 tile:00011A30 p1:000001A7 p2:00000000 text: price:0 16:31:11 <Ammler> Crash encountered, generating crash log... 16:31:12 <Ammler> Server has exited 16:33:24 *** Stablean has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:33:24 <Stablean> Autopilot engaged 16:33:25 <Stablean> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} Welcome Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 16:33:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Stablean 16:33:44 <Ammler> !playercount 16:33:45 <Stablean> Ammler: Number of players: 0 16:33:48 <Ammler> hmm 16:33:50 <Aziroshin> xD 16:34:01 <Ammler> where is the spec count? 16:34:58 <Aziroshin> spec count? 16:35:02 <Ammler> !reload config 16:35:02 <Stablean> Ammler: config reloaded 16:35:06 <Ammler> !playercount 16:35:06 <Stablean> Ammler: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 16:35:12 <Aziroshin> Ah, spectators. XD 16:35:28 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 16:35:31 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 16:35:45 <Ammler> greenlion: were you online as it crashed? 16:35:55 <Aziroshin> I was online when it crashed. 16:35:58 <greenlion> Ammler, yep 16:36:06 <Ammler> is the game state ok? 16:36:28 <greenlion> Ammler, seems so. last changes I made are here 16:36:36 <Ammler> fine :-) 16:36:45 <Ammler> SmatZ: will take care about the crash 16:36:46 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin joined the game 16:36:50 <Ammler> so blame him 16:36:55 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, the pws are gone, butI guess that's normal. 16:37:08 <Ammler> yes, passwords are lost during reload 16:37:19 <Ammler> (not saved in the saves) 16:37:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, I figured@not saved. :p 16:37:34 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> They are only kept in memory. 16:37:44 <Ammler> yep :-) 16:38:56 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I guess it's because of the "streaming server" concept I've heard about. 16:39:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> In a broader sense. 16:40:40 <Ammler> no, it is simply because if it would be saved in the save the clients would get the pws too 16:41:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That's what I mean. The server would have to handle this on its own, but that probably wouldn't be that easy, or by the design even "impossible". 16:41:25 <Ammler> there is a patch flying around... 16:41:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I see. Proof of concept. XD 16:41:37 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 16:43:56 <SmatZ> Ammler: any clue where crash data are stored? 16:44:04 <Ammler> none 16:44:16 <Ammler> it only said, it does generate those 16:44:23 <Ammler> but the crash files are old 16:44:33 <SmatZ> yeah :( 16:44:45 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It only says it but creates none? 16:44:51 <Ammler> I pasted the end of the game.log 16:45:04 <Ammler> http://stable.openttdcoop.org/stable/game.log 16:45:28 <SmatZ> CmdStartStopVehicle probably didn't cause the crash 16:45:49 <Ammler> I agree, maybe it was simple OOM? 16:46:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Out of mana. XD 16:46:27 <SmatZ> Ammler: did it say where are the crash files saved to? 16:46:41 <SmatZ> or you have no chance to see the crash output 16:46:46 <SmatZ> because screen was closed 16:46:52 <SmatZ> (how comes it was closed?) 16:47:03 <Ammler> it does close on exit 16:47:06 <Ammler> but we have the log 16:47:21 <SmatZ> where? 16:47:26 <Ammler> I pasted 16:47:39 <SmatZ> [18:45:06] <Ammler> http://stable.openttdcoop.org/stable/game.log <== is overwritten by new log 16:47:45 <Ammler> yeah :-( 16:47:50 <Ammler> sorry :-P 16:47:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 16:47:59 <SmatZ> :) 16:48:12 <Ammler> I pasted the last lines from the log 16:48:23 <Ammler> you think, there would be more infos before? 16:48:47 <SmatZ> there should be 16:49:02 <SmatZ> the crash log should be printed 16:49:10 <SmatZ> but if it wasn't, something very serious happened 16:49:11 <Ammler> not, if it is a oom 16:49:13 <SmatZ> like OOM :) 16:49:33 <Ammler> such things can happen on the vps 16:49:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Makes sense. If the process ends that way, I guess the kernel won't bubble around long with it. :o 16:50:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Something external would have to monitor the process for such errors, if not something eludes me now. 16:50:16 <Ammler> if there wouldn't be the company pw issue, we could make a daily restart 16:50:38 <Ammler> oh well 16:50:44 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Can't the auto pilot manipulate company passwords? 16:50:47 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Or be made to do it? 16:50:51 <Ammler> this happens once or twice a year? 16:51:00 <SmatZ> ;) 16:51:18 <Ammler> we can start debugging, if it happens again :-P 16:51:40 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I haven't seen stable crashing too much. 16:53:26 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> A way to check for OOM would be to monitor RAM usage. 16:53:50 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But, I guess it's rather babysteppish to poke around like this. XD 16:55:34 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 16:57:08 <greenlion> if it was OOM it should have written in dmesg 16:57:56 <Ammler> how to read that? 16:58:21 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> dmesg 16:58:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's the command. 16:59:39 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin has left the game (connection lost) 16:59:39 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:03:43 <Ammler> empty 17:03:59 <Stablean> <Henri> hi 17:03:59 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 17:05:06 <greenlion> hi Henri 17:05:46 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 17:36:59 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:36:59 <Stablean> <V453000> hithere 18:00:12 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 18:44:49 <Stablean> *** Matt joined the game 18:46:04 <Stablean> *** Matt has left the game (connection lost) 19:16:32 <Mks> !date 19:16:32 <Stablean> Mks: 17 Oct 2045 19:17:01 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 19:17:01 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 19:19:22 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 19:19:22 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:22:03 *** Vitus has quit IRC 20:28:09 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:28:09 <Stablean> *** Aziroshin joined the game 21:15:38 <Stablean> *** Yggdras joined the game 21:20:42 <Stablean> *** Yggdras has left the game (leaving) 21:28:25 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 21:36:30 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:36:34 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> oi ^Spike^ 21:36:52 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> hi Aziroshin 21:37:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Hello 21:37:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> see you have gone for terminuses this time 21:37:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> with full speed corners 21:37:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I've gone for terminus before. 21:38:04 <^Spike^> chris that you have a diff IP doesn't by terms mean you are unbanned 21:38:07 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no trains though 21:38:07 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> V also said that the network youve seen back there was the worst I've built so far. :p 21:38:15 <^Spike^> what you expect to happen between now... and eh... 10 minutes? 21:38:17 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i odn 21:38:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> dont 21:38:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> nothing 21:38:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i have same IP 21:38:36 <^Spike^> no you don't... else you couldn't have joined the room 21:38:38 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i have been asking you why for last 2 days 21:38:41 <^Spike^> when i kicked you out banlist was 2 21:38:42 <^Spike^> so... 21:38:43 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, no trains. I guess it's because the thing is not completely done yet, right. :p 21:38:45 <^Spike^> that means you had a diff IP 21:38:55 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i havent changed my IP once 21:39:05 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you can check 21:39:18 <^Spike^> (23:39:12) —› Chris_Booth was "New Now Know How" (~chatzilla@client-86-23-88-211.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) 21:39:22 <^Spike^> (23:39:13) —› Chris_Booth was "New Now Know How" (~chatzilla@client-86-23-114-47.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) 21:39:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i didnt change it 21:39:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> i am still asking when you banned me 21:39:56 <^Spike^> when... let's see... 2 days ago... yesterday.... 21:40:26 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> yes well lets not discuss you actions in this channel shall we 21:40:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> don't want to make you look bad now do we? 21:42:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And, you got banned after you went at me like you did back there. I don't mind criticism, but you were kinda aggressive in your tone. For what reason? I had done nothing to you. 21:42:17 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It wasn't my intention to get you banned, however, it seemed like it added up with other things. 21:42:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> no but you did break the rules 21:42:37 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and that isnt the sole reason i got banned from here 21:42:43 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You did not shoot at the terraforming. You shot at my network in general. 21:42:48 <^Spike^> chris.. what rule he broke 21:42:50 <Ammler> Chris Booth, you aren't allowed to join stable 21:42:57 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Also, I've learned that I did nothing wrong and that I was alright. 21:43:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> So, I did not break the rules after all. 21:43:13 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> you TFed to much 21:43:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will go on here as much as i like ammler 21:43:34 <Ammler> :-( 21:43:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 21:43:41 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> If V doesnt get banned for upsetting people why should I? 21:43:59 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I will change my IP as much as I like 21:44:12 <Ammler> CB, that is not how it works 21:44:19 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> it is 21:44:33 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> My terraforming was within what is okay, so it seemed after all. 21:44:35 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Members such as you and V and Spike need to set examples 21:44:50 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> That expamle as i recall was shoot now ask later 21:44:53 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good to know 21:44:53 <Ammler> well, you are a bad one 21:45:06 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> good to know 21:46:01 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> as far as i can see i have done nothing wrong and nothing that members have not done 21:46:15 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> actualy i have done things not even half as bad as members 21:46:23 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> so i am staying 21:47:58 <Ammler> CB, it isn't about your building 21:48:08 <Ammler> there are not many building rules here 21:48:12 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> I never talked about building 21:48:42 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> Its about me getting told off for something which i had a right to complain about 21:48:56 <Ammler> yes, on ps maybe 21:49:22 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> and when other people (no names mentioned) upset players Spike comes along and calms them done and nothing ever gets said 21:49:36 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> isn't that right Spike! 21:51:26 <Stablean> *** Chris Booth has started a new company (#5) 21:51:32 <Stablean> <Chris Booth> well if you dont mind i am buildoing 21:52:08 <^Spike^> !rcon kick 23 21:52:09 <Stablean> ^Spike^: *** Chris Booth has left the game (kicked by server) 21:52:09 <Stablean> ^Spike^: *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 22:06:46 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:30:33 *** greenlion has quit IRC 22:30:37 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:37:38 *** kuch3n_ has quit IRC 22:48:42 *** CB has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:48:48 <CB> hi Ammler 22:49:03 *** CB is now known as Guest454 22:50:20 *** Guest454 is now known as Booth 22:50:38 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 22:52:30 <Booth> Mks you have some missing signals 22:52:45 <Stablean> <Mks> more then 1 place? 22:52:55 <Stablean> <Mks> I noticed 1 place that stoped the trains 22:53:12 <Booth> no just one jaming place 22:53:40 <Stablean> <Mks> well its fixed now I think 22:54:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Mks, is your Slendingbury line finished? 22:54:41 <Stablean> <Mks> yes 22:54:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am going to extend Wronnley and Pondinghall now. In case you would like to extend the lines next to these cities, now would be the time to decide. 22:54:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 22:55:19 <Stablean> <Mks> naa its gona be a two city rail only 22:55:25 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay. 23:00:25 <Ammler> @ban *~5617@* 23:00:47 *** Ammler sets mode: +b *!*~5617@* 23:01:14 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:01:25 *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!*~5617@* 23:01:26 *** Ammler sets mode: +b *!*~5617*@* 23:05:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The big termini I've built by the way 23:05:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Are inspired by your power plant roro. 23:05:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Mks. 23:05:18 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:05:20 *** Booth has quit IRC 23:05:37 <Stablean> <Mks> at pndfinghall? 23:05:43 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Both. 23:05:49 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 23:05:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, not entirely, I've seen such designs before. 23:06:09 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> And not everything, but some parts of it have been inspired. 23:06:09 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:06:10 <Stablean> <Mks> wow my power plant drop off can't handle the trains 23:06:53 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But, pondinghall has an error. I guess I was spaced out or something. 23:07:04 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh it doesn't work? 23:07:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Nah, it's not such a subtle error. 23:07:21 <Stablean> <Mks> I guess 10 plattforms ain't enough for 200 trains 23:07:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Heh 23:07:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's a simple one - I forgot an entire facility. 23:08:09 <Stablean> <Mks> can't really rebuild it either its to messed up in that area 23:08:15 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xD 23:08:39 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> If you need me to remove some buildings in Little Drendhead valley, say something. 23:09:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> ooogh 23:09:06 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That's some jam. 23:09:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:09:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But at least it's not deadlocked. 23:09:49 <Stablean> <Mks> not sure how to fix it 23:10:00 <Stablean> <Mks> if its possible to make the signaling better somehow 23:11:16 <Stablean> <Mks> well the use of pre signals seem to have reduced it at least 23:11:34 <Stablean> <Mks> well 23:11:38 <Stablean> <Mks> sure builds up fast :P 23:13:58 <Stablean> <Mks> any expert around that c an help me fix that station? 23:28:33 <Stablean> <Mks> yey I added another 4 plattforms seem to fixed it 23:28:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> =D 23:30:15 <Stablean> <Mks> azir how do you like my addon plattforms? 23:30:45 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Tunnel =D 23:31:13 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah only solution 23:31:19 <Stablean> <Mks> a bit lack of space 23:31:42 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Oh, you've seen some of my networks. I know what it means when almost every single tile is occupied. 23:31:44 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:32:47 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I kinda like the addon plattforms, especially the tunneling. The only sore point is that they are not all on the same level (as in, that they are like 2 tiles behind the other platforms) 23:33:12 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> But I guess that's just me. XD 23:33:39 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah but its due to lack of space 23:33:59 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Ah, yeah, I see that there. 23:34:13 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The trains would not fit onto the piece of track if they wouldnt be like that. 23:34:20 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 23:34:31 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> So Ill scratch that with the sore point, it's good. 23:34:57 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> yey. 23:35:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> My first shinkansen tested successfully. 23:35:05 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:35:19 <Stablean> <Mks> the tunnel from the exit is a bit long but only 4 plattforms so should be ok 23:35:54 <Stablean> <Mks> now you just have to fill the lines then 23:35:56 <Stablean> <Mks> btw 23:35:58 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> There's room for a second tunnel if you'd have run into problem. 23:36:05 <Stablean> <Mks> do you know there is a 300km/h loco for normal rail now? 23:36:13 <Stablean> <Mks> you can't transport cargo with it tho 23:36:31 <Stablean> <Mks> the CT60 23:36:40 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Ah, yeah, from the other trainset. 23:37:08 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Not really interested in it, I am the one that wished for the japanese trainset this map. 23:37:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:37:16 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 23:38:46 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, I like the new platforms you've added. They're fun. XD 23:39:12 <Stablean> <Mks> at least the removed the jam 23:39:26 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, and I like the style. 23:39:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Of these new platforms. 23:39:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:40:06 <Stablean> <Mks> you can build a more advanced station like that somehow like if plattforms full go to next set just can't remeber how you do it really 23:41:11 <Stablean> <Mks> only problem is I don't think my tracks can handle much more trains 23:41:21 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, you would have to expand then. 23:41:44 <Stablean> <Mks> all trains go to the same area so mm 23:42:05 <Stablean> <Mks> I won't expand them tho 23:42:08 <Stablean> <Mks> way to much work 23:42:12 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, I guess 23:42:22 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's kinda the work of a map on stable. 23:42:36 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> time-wise. 23:43:06 <Stablean> <Mks> should have done that expansion alot earlier then to make it any good 23:43:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Or from the almost-beginning. 23:43:26 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah thats the best 23:43:28 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> As in, get basic money stock, then plan bigger. 23:43:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> You see this 8x8 track here 23:43:46 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I had no intention to make this a 2x2 and then expand it or something. 23:43:48 <Stablean> <Mks> not really used :P 23:43:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:43:54 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, but that has different reasons. 23:44:00 <Stablean> <Mks> tho you don't use double tunnels and stuff 23:44:02 <Stablean> <Mks> so 23:44:04 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It wasn't complete at around 6 PM 23:44:07 <Stablean> <Mks> you need more tracks 23:44:19 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Then I was occupied with other things. 23:44:38 <Stablean> <Mks> at least your 8 track wouldn't be able the handle the amount of trains on my track 23:45:40 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> What is it? 23:45:58 <Stablean> <Mks> your 8 track shinkasen 23:46:04 <Stablean> <Mks> since it only has 1 tunnel per track 23:46:35 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I took are the tunnels, almost all ofthem, at least, aren't longer than the trains running on the track. 23:46:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> *care 23:46:58 <Stablean> <Mks> well your longest gap is 17 23:47:17 <Stablean> <Mks> so if you want to fill the tracks to the max you need 3 tunnels/bridges per track 23:47:24 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> gap? 23:47:34 <Stablean> <Mks> well its a bridge 23:47:36 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Between signals, I guess. 23:47:39 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 23:47:45 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, I guess its a bridge. 23:47:55 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The tunnel length isnt a problem. 23:48:30 <Stablean> <Mks> well acually as soon as the tunnel is longer then 2 tiles you need 2 tunnels per track 23:48:32 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, that bridge.. 23:48:38 <Stablean> <Mks> if you want to max out the use of the tracks 23:49:46 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Yeah, and I see why. 23:50:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, it won't matter. This track is like that now and that's it. 23:50:00 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:50:16 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The tunnels and bridges are fun. 23:50:18 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 23:50:20 <Stablean> <Mks> and really 23:50:34 <Stablean> <Mks> you can have quite alot of trains before it becomes a problem 23:50:36 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I guess. 23:50:40 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It's 8 tracks, after all. 23:50:46 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> XD 23:50:48 <Stablean> <Mks> but if you have trains like 3-4 tiles bettwen each train then it becomes a problem 23:51:38 <Stablean> <Mks> you only have 1 train so far? 23:51:44 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It was there to test. 23:51:46 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I am now goingto duplicate. 23:52:05 <Stablean> <Mks> only pax? or gona do mail as well? 23:52:19 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Mai ltoo, but not instantly. 23:52:57 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> There's not that much to transport yet. 23:53:01 <Stablean> <Mks> I use the 500 series for mail 23:53:03 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The cities need to grow now. 23:53:06 <Stablean> <Mks> and the N700 for pax 23:54:09 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I'll have to use the N700 for both 23:54:19 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> The slower one would slow out the pax trains. 23:54:26 <Stablean> <Mks> I want to see diffrence bettwen them 23:54:32 <Stablean> <Mks> no the 500 series and the N700 have the same speed 23:54:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I see. 23:54:40 <Stablean> <Mks> so works fine 23:54:56 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I thought I've only seen one 300ish train. 23:55:03 <Stablean> <Mks> there are 2 23:55:07 <Stablean> <Mks> the blue/grey 23:55:11 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:55:46 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I thought about series 0 first 23:55:48 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Problem: 23:56:02 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> No shinkansen tracks. XD 23:56:16 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 23:56:27 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> series 0 'd look kinda weird with maglev tracks. 23:56:58 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh 23:57:12 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Look ate Pondinghall btw. 23:57:14 <Stablean> <Mks> N700 and 500 looks alright 23:57:14 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> See that wood? 23:57:22 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> It spawned in the middle of my fucking building site. 23:57:29 <Stablean> <Mks> ouch 23:57:31 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I had to shift almost all of the station over there. 23:57:34 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xP 23:57:39 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 23:57:49 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> That was hell, because the town hated me for destroying all those trees. 23:57:51 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> xP 23:58:13 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> I was there with unfinished tracks and like 23:58:15 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Okay, it's not true. 23:58:38 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> (that's what I was like, I mean. XD) 23:58:48 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> "it can't be." 23:59:10 <Stablean> <Aziroshin> Well, one more reason to shift it over. The station wasn't in a good position anyway.