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(Parent directory) 09:09:20 <Stablean> V453000: 1) StableTemp13.sav 09:09:21 <Stablean> V453000: 2) StableTrop05.sav 09:09:21 <Stablean> V453000: 3) StableArc05.sav 09:09:21 <Stablean> V453000: 4) StableTemp12fix.sav 09:09:22 <Stablean> V453000: you have 65 more messages 09:09:23 <V453000> !rcon load 1 09:09:28 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 09:09:35 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:10:03 <V453000> !rcon unpause 09:10:03 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:10:12 <V453000> rcon reset_company 1 09:10:23 <V453000> !rcon reset_company 1 09:10:24 <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted. 09:11:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:17:01 <Stablean> *** Speedy joined the game 09:18:37 <Stablean> *** Speedy has left the game (leaving) 09:25:37 <greenlion> !date 09:25:37 <Stablean> greenlion: 1 Jan 1900 09:25:42 <greenlion> !playercount 09:25:43 <Stablean> greenlion: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators) 09:26:41 <greenlion> start at 1900 and nobody yet started a company... this will be long game :) 09:30:17 <V453000> well since nobody joined yet ... :) 1 player 09:30:48 <V453000> it isnt a bit different game too, so I dont expect too many people playing it :) but it should be enjoyable 09:31:10 <Stablean> *** ycb joined the game 09:32:04 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 09:32:24 <Stablean> <greenlion> ah, firs :) 09:32:26 <Stablean> *** ycb has left the game (leaving) 09:33:15 <Stablean> <greenlion> never played with it :) 09:35:25 <Stablean> *** greenlion has started a new company (#1) 09:35:25 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:35:30 <Stablean> *** greenlion has joined spectators 09:35:31 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:38:19 <Stablean> <greenlion> nightly feature to display production graph would have been handy here :) 09:39:37 <V453000> it makes quite sense 09:39:45 <V453000> it is easy to get used to it :) 09:39:54 <V453000> at least I did quite quickly ... 09:40:10 <Stablean> *** greenlion has joined company #1 09:40:10 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:44:41 <Mks> mm 09:44:47 <Mks> I have some issues 09:44:54 <Mks> doesn't work to download fish for some reason 09:46:52 <V453000> wtf :o its latest 09:47:05 <Stablean> *** Mks joined the game 09:47:09 <Stablean> <greenlion> why do we have fish if ships are disabled? :) 09:47:20 <V453000> !rcon set max_ships 10 09:47:23 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh ships are disabled? :P 09:47:41 <Stablean> *** Mks has started a new company (#2) 09:48:09 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:48:15 <Stablean> <Mks> gah 09:48:18 <Stablean> <Mks> station spread 5???? 09:48:25 <Stablean> <greenlion> really? :) 09:48:28 <Stablean> <V453000> yes 09:48:35 <Stablean> <Mks> thats low 09:48:49 <Stablean> <V453000> its firs you are supposed to have many industries instead of one drop 09:48:56 <Stablean> <greenlion> V453000 learns us to use shorter trains? :) 09:49:06 <Stablean> <Mks> well 09:49:16 <Stablean> <Mks> you can have 1 drop in firs as well 09:49:31 <Stablean> <V453000> sure, then suffer spread 5 09:49:34 <Stablean> <Mks> no HQs ? 09:49:40 <Stablean> *** V453000 has started a new company (#3) 09:49:45 <Stablean> *** V453000 has joined spectators 09:49:49 <Stablean> <V453000> HQs? 09:49:55 <Stablean> <Mks> mm 09:49:58 <Stablean> <Mks> whats it called 09:50:05 <Stablean> <Mks> that road set 09:50:19 <Stablean> <V453000> heqs? 09:50:25 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah 09:50:27 <Stablean> <V453000> why that 09:50:37 <Stablean> <Mks> well nice set to FIRS 09:50:47 <Stablean> <V453000> it has quite poor stats of vehicles 09:50:59 <Stablean> <Mks> it has good cargo vehicles 09:51:11 <Stablean> <V453000> its not here. 09:51:13 <Stablean> <Mks> I know 09:51:15 <Stablean> <V453000> stop complaining :) 09:51:22 <Stablean> <V453000> it is useless 09:51:44 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:51:50 <V453000> have fun :) 09:52:22 <Stablean> <Mks> so you mean in this game Ishould have 1 drop for each pickup? 09:52:24 <Stablean> <greenlion> where is oil produced? 09:52:35 <Stablean> <Mks> not all industries are here yet 09:52:41 <Stablean> <Mks> some come later 09:52:47 <Stablean> <Mks> some dissapear after a certain date 09:53:48 <Stablean> <greenlion> ah I see. but oil refineries are here and no oil platforms... 09:54:04 <Stablean> <Mks> there are oil wheels 09:54:08 <Stablean> <greenlion> found oil wells, yeah :) 09:57:52 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} joined the game 09:59:14 <Stablean> *** C2H5OH joined the game 10:05:09 <Stablean> <Mks> hi 10:05:15 <SmatZ> alcohol <3 10:05:21 <Stablean> <Mks> mm 10:05:23 <Stablean> <Mks> make your own company pls 10:05:47 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Okay, no problem, just wanted to ask whether it is okay I joined you :) 10:06:14 <Stablean> <greenlion> C2H5OH: you should ask before join :) 10:06:40 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Not really: I see a company without password as an open invitation to join ;) 10:06:51 <Stablean> <Mks> forgot to set it 10:06:57 <Stablean> <Mks> I tend to do that 10:06:57 <Stablean> *** C2H5OH has joined spectators 10:07:09 <Stablean> <Mks> well you don't have to delete the train 10:07:23 <Stablean> <greenlion> Mks: why not set a default password? 10:07:37 <Stablean> <Mks> default password? 10:07:43 <Stablean> <Mks> like auto set pw? 10:08:09 <Stablean> <greenlion> yes, when setting password there is button "default passowrd" 10:08:16 <Stablean> *** C2H5OH has started a new company (#4) 10:08:42 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 10:08:44 <Stablean> <greenlion> at my password is getting to set automatically 10:08:44 <Stablean> *** Mks has started a new company (#5) 10:08:51 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 10:08:53 <Stablean> <Mks> didn't know that 10:09:00 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined company #2 10:09:28 <Stablean> * greenlion likes to press all unknown buttons :) 10:09:58 <Stablean> <Mks> lol 10:10:12 <Stablean> <Mks> guess thats a good future for me since I tend to forget set the password 10:11:37 <Stablean> <greenlion> autopilot should have a feature to reminding of empty passwords 10:12:02 <Stablean> <Mks> some servers have that 10:20:44 <Stablean> <Mks> c2h50h there is no reason to force trains to enter depots 10:20:48 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:20:50 <Stablean> <Mks> since trains won't breakdown here 10:21:15 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Good point then :) 10:23:10 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Industries will only grow if you supply them with the right supplies here, right? 10:23:22 <Stablean> <V453000> about that 10:23:24 <Stablean> <Mks> well they should grow anyway I think 10:23:31 <Stablean> <Mks> the suppling only gives temporary boosts 10:23:58 <Stablean> <Mks> well I am not 100% sure but used to work that before in FIRS at least 10:24:06 <Stablean> <V453000> firs changes a lot 10:24:06 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Ah, okay, so there is no need to set up complex systems :P... 10:25:08 <Stablean> <Mks> like I said I am not sure :P 10:25:12 <Stablean> <Mks> do you know V? 10:25:19 <Stablean> <V453000> hm? 10:25:25 <Stablean> <Mks> how FIRS works atm? 10:25:27 <Stablean> <V453000> industries shouldnt die on their own 10:25:33 <Stablean> <V453000> nor close up 10:25:36 <Stablean> <V453000> with exceptions like power plants 10:25:42 <Stablean> <Mks> well power stations can 10:25:48 <Stablean> <Mks> it even sas dies in 29 months 10:25:50 <Stablean> <Mks> well can die 10:26:08 <Stablean> <Mks> can you deplete stuff in FIRS? 10:26:11 <Stablean> <V453000> no 10:26:13 <Stablean> <Mks> like limited amount of coal? 10:26:21 <Stablean> <V453000> no, that thing is totally retarded :) 10:26:29 <Stablean> <V453000> I wouldnt ever make a game with that 10:26:51 <Stablean> <Mks> ECS works like that 10:26:55 <Stablean> <V453000> ECS is straight up retarded 10:26:57 <Stablean> <Mks> coal have limited amount of coal 10:27:07 <Stablean> <Mks> even thought it can find new coal 10:27:17 <Stablean> <Mks> so its not sure it will close 10:27:28 <Stablean> <V453000> it could be disabled 10:27:30 <Stablean> <V453000> but still 10:27:36 <Stablean> <V453000> ECS will never be here as long as I create maps 10:27:44 <Stablean> <Mks> hehe 10:28:06 <Stablean> <Mks> but I do think its a bit silly production raise very fast to max in coal mines 10:28:16 <Stablean> <greenlion> V453000: why no ECS? 10:28:26 <Stablean> <V453000> because it is retarded :) 10:29:30 <Stablean> <V453000> you can get a mine of productions 2000+ in a few years 10:29:36 <Stablean> <V453000> which supports people doing point to point 10:29:57 <Stablean> <V453000> the other things are usually parametr-able but the high productions waste a lot of the rest 10:29:58 <Stablean> <Mks> I think in firs you hardly can get that high production no matter how long time you wait? 10:30:05 <Stablean> <V453000> Mks: you can 10:30:15 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 10:30:15 <Stablean> <greenlion> I'm is doing crazy p2p network now, btw :) 10:30:32 <Stablean> <V453000> by supplying regularly you can get quite high productions 10:30:48 <Stablean> <Mks> doesn't supplying only give temp boost? 10:31:00 <Stablean> <V453000> well then supply every month :) 10:33:21 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:37:53 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Did for somebody the industry grow already? 10:38:40 <Stablean> <Mks> not me 10:38:47 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Me neither... 10:39:47 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Mmm, but I'm trying to get a circle (wood-lumber-eng.sup.) up and running to find out :) 10:40:17 <V453000> it takes time 10:40:36 <V453000> and you really need to supply quite often I think :) small amounts are enough 10:40:47 <V453000> it has to be "just at least something" 10:41:00 <V453000> so it doesnt really matter if you deliver 1 or 100 crates 10:41:12 <planetmaker> yep ^ 10:41:23 <planetmaker> 1 supply per month is enough. But per month is important 10:41:23 <V453000> :) 10:41:47 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Mmm, that's tough :) 10:42:32 <Stablean> *** Rieksts joined the game 10:44:35 <Stablean> <Mks> so that mans TL 1 trains are better for the supplying mines and stuff? 10:45:14 <Stablean> <Henri> hi 10:45:14 <Stablean> *** Henri joined the game 10:45:15 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:45:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:45:56 <Stablean> <Henri> dang 10:46:06 <Stablean> <Henri> i hate indrustry newgrfs :D 10:46:06 <Stablean> <Henri> cya 10:46:09 <Stablean> *** Henri has left the game (leaving) 10:46:14 <planetmaker> lol 10:46:49 <Stablean> <greenlion> wow, Henri said something other than "hi"... 10:47:06 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> He normally doesn't :)? 10:47:06 <Stablean> <Mks> I think firs is quite nice 10:51:59 <Stablean> *** Rieksts has left the game (leaving) 11:13:03 <Stablean> <greenlion> mmm... I think there was an order for train to wait until at least specified % of load, was it removed? 11:13:22 <Stablean> <Mks> no it should still be there 11:13:40 <Stablean> <Mks> its a conditional order jump 11:13:44 <Stablean> <greenlion> I see only conditional jumps 11:14:02 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah its in that 11:14:07 <Stablean> <greenlion> but not "load until N%"... 11:14:12 <Stablean> <Mks> you can choice that then choice diffrent conditions 11:14:18 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 11:15:04 <Stablean> <greenlion> conditional jumps make train run around platform and reversing... 11:15:11 <Stablean> <Mks> not really 11:15:21 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (leaving) 11:15:49 <Stablean> <Mks> I hardly ever use it thought so not really sure how to make it work but you can make it so it loads to like 50% then leave station 11:16:27 <Stablean> <greenlion> yes, I made it to work, but it looks not very nice... 11:19:47 <Stablean> *** ruarai joined the game 11:20:57 <Stablean> <ruarai> is buying shares disabled? 11:22:06 <Stablean> <greenlion> heh, and trains could be made to run two-way with payload - like one way oil, then refit, and backwards with eng.supplies 11:23:30 <Stablean> <ruarai> why cant i buy shares from companys? 11:23:49 <Stablean> <greenlion> ruarai: because it is disabled on this server 11:23:52 <Stablean> <ruarai> ok 11:23:54 <Stablean> <ruarai> thanks 11:24:16 <V453000> load until ??% is only in ttdpatch 11:25:39 <Stablean> <greenlion> V453000, I think I've seen it in openttd year or two ago (perhaps a patched version or nightly) 11:25:59 <V453000> possibly :) 11:27:14 <greenlion> V453000, in this one: http://wiki.openttd.org/Mini_Integrated_Nightly 11:27:46 <V453000> :) 11:28:10 <greenlion> a bit longer than two years though, if it is discontinued in 2006 :) 11:34:55 <Stablean> *** zaius joined the game 11:36:31 <Stablean> *** zaius has left the game (leaving) 11:39:23 <Stablean> <ruarai> whoa the eyes on zaius 11:40:07 <Stablean> *** jor[D]1 has left the game (leaving) 11:44:21 <Stablean> *** ruarai has left the game (connection lost) 11:46:34 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo joined the game 11:52:20 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo has left the game (connection lost) 12:05:17 <Stablean> <greenlion> hmm... lumber yard works strangely: it's said that it produces 2t of supplies per8t chemicals, but I'm delivering 100t of chemicals and it produces 72t of supplies... 12:05:57 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> It seems to be twisted: i'm supplying tons of lumber but hardly get any eng.sup... 12:06:25 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> 220 lumber -> 54 eng.supplies :( 12:07:25 <Stablean> <greenlion> true, it should should produce 72t per 96t of lumber, but not chemicals :( 12:07:36 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> So it's flipped... 12:08:02 <Stablean> <greenlion> wanna report a bug? :) 12:08:20 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Sure, but to the guys of the newGRF industries :).. 12:11:05 <greenlion> they have a bug tracker at http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs :) 12:11:07 <V453000> note the older version btw 12:11:21 <V453000> and better talk to planetmaker before doing a report :p 12:11:29 <V453000> he is the coder afaik 12:11:54 <Stablean> <greenlion> why not to talk to him via bugtracker? :) 12:13:21 <Ammler> [14:11] <V453000> he is the coder afaik <-- one of 12:13:49 <Ammler> yes, just use the tracker or forums 12:14:47 <greenlion> V453000, why not the latest version, btw? 12:15:37 <planetmaker> what, you don't play FIRS 0.4 here?! 12:15:47 <Ammler> !info 12:15:47 <Stablean> Ammler: http://stable.openttdcoop.org 12:16:12 <planetmaker> meh :-( 12:16:26 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:16:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 12:16:28 <planetmaker> what happened to the fact that #openttdcoop also was know for its careful selection of newgrf :-( 12:16:56 <Ammler> I assume, V made the game a year ago and loaded it today :-/ 12:17:32 <planetmaker> unlikely. It runs SE rails 0.6.0 :-) 12:18:03 <greenlion> planetmaker, is it fixed in newer versions of FIRS? 12:18:06 <Ammler> greenlion: you miss something from mini-in? 12:18:11 <planetmaker> what? 12:18:23 <greenlion> Ammler, yes, load until N% orders 12:18:34 <greenlion> planetmaker, >lumber yard works strangely: it's said that it produces 2t of supplies per8t chemicals, but I'm delivering 100t of chemicals and it produces 72t of supplies... 12:18:42 <planetmaker> dunno 12:19:00 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> ~ 12:19:23 <greenlion> planetmaker, ok, reporting a bug then :) 12:19:27 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Greenlion: it's also the reverse: 8t lumber should bring 6t, but does only 2t... 12:19:35 <planetmaker> greenlion: test in 0.4.0 or a nightly 12:19:38 <Ammler> greenlion: you tried with 0.4? 12:20:00 <V453000> when I saw the newest industries as "coloured boxes" in the newest FIRS, I really didnt want to make game with that :) 12:20:21 <Ammler> that is indeed quite ugly 12:20:29 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 12:20:31 <Ammler> they are in teh release? 12:20:35 <V453000> ye 12:20:38 <planetmaker> yes 12:20:42 <Ammler> :-( 12:21:04 <Ammler> then we can't blame you :-P 12:21:12 <V453000> :) 12:21:31 <planetmaker> Hm... it didn't occur to me that that will be a problem for people 12:21:34 <V453000> well you can, but ... :p 12:21:51 <Ammler> planetmaker: I thought, that needs debug switch or so 12:22:10 <greenlion> will replacing FIRS version for saved game result in any meaningful results? 12:22:19 <planetmaker> The point is, they're somewhat needed for the cargo chains 12:22:27 <planetmaker> and... I don't think the boxes hurt ;-) 12:22:43 <planetmaker> greenlion: yes. You'll get a nice crashed OpenTTD 12:23:01 <greenlion> planetmaker, :) 12:23:30 <Ammler> planetmaker: they remember me to the black boxes in opengfx 12:23:46 <planetmaker> Ammler: much nicer, though 12:24:20 <planetmaker> Actually what FIRS does there might be an interesting display option for industries, provided the boxes are in minimap colour 12:25:11 <Ammler> something for transparent mode maybe 12:25:31 <planetmaker> yes, like that 12:25:54 <Ammler> V453000: the problem is that firs is in dev, so an older version means a lot of bugs and such 12:26:04 <Ammler> and specially no support 12:26:33 <Ammler> that is like a patched server :-P 12:26:37 <Ammler> gäll planetmaker :-) 12:26:43 <planetmaker> the main point is: they're trying to tune the game play fun, the balance of industries 12:26:48 <planetmaker> And that changed a lot 12:27:04 <planetmaker> So anything related to that... is worthless from an old version 12:27:48 <V453000> Ammler: I know but I just cant use the newest version cause people would hate the boxes :) 12:28:10 <planetmaker> do they? I don't 12:28:10 <Ammler> well, I wouldn't mind that much 12:28:20 <planetmaker> and yes, we can use the newest 12:28:32 <Ammler> some might think they are funny :-) 12:28:33 <V453000> I would use the newest for my own game too 12:28:33 <planetmaker> and we should 12:28:45 <Ammler> oh 12:28:46 <planetmaker> what use is that? Why not here? 12:29:09 <Ammler> firs devs would prefer someone complaining about the boxes 12:29:20 <Ammler> then about a bug in unsupported version 12:29:31 <V453000> ._: 12:29:35 <Ammler> :-) 12:29:43 <planetmaker> I mean... this server has little value to me, if it doesn't generate reports about OpenTTD bugs or newgrf bugs 12:29:53 <planetmaker> That's the only reason I support this server 12:30:27 <planetmaker> stable servers are around plenty 12:32:05 <greenlion> mmm.... I cannot use standard train set with FIRS? 12:32:23 <planetmaker> you can. But you won't enjoy it ;-) 12:32:32 <planetmaker> you need a train set which supports the cargos 12:33:02 <planetmaker> nearly any will do. Except DBset 12:33:17 <Stablean> <Mks> why no DB? 12:33:23 <planetmaker> it misses some cargos 12:33:27 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 12:34:00 <V453000> it is better to mix sets for FIRS anyway imo :) 12:34:13 <V453000> so you get a special wagon for every cargo 12:34:14 <planetmaker> why? 12:34:16 <planetmaker> ah 12:34:33 <planetmaker> don't tell that the author of the DB set :-P 12:34:42 <V453000> why is that wrong to him ? :D 12:34:46 <planetmaker> he'll crucify you head down 12:34:57 <V453000> cause his train set isnt omni-potent and has to be filled with others? 12:35:04 <planetmaker> yes 12:35:12 <planetmaker> there can be only one and you MUST share his view 12:35:12 <V453000> hehe 12:35:20 <V453000> I see 12:35:26 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh why is FIRS not visable on bananas? 12:35:33 <V453000> Mks: same problem 12:35:34 <planetmaker> it isn't?! 12:35:35 <V453000> the author :) 12:35:45 <planetmaker> hm 12:35:45 <V453000> oh FIRS 12:35:50 <V453000> I thought DB :D 12:35:52 <planetmaker> oh. :-) I guess you have an excuse 12:35:59 <planetmaker> Might be that they made it nightly-only 12:36:07 <V453000> o_O :D 12:36:12 <Stablean> <Mks> why? 12:36:22 <planetmaker> using nightly-only features of OpenTTD 12:36:32 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 12:36:37 <planetmaker> and not being bothered to programme around them missing in stable 12:36:54 <planetmaker> I guess even I gave that advice :-P Just didn't kow it was followed ;-) 12:37:37 <planetmaker> maybe it was bad advice ;-) 12:38:16 <planetmaker> though ... there are already quite a number of things only trunk supports, but stable not 12:38:33 <planetmaker> FIRS is one of the main drivers in trunk development in the newgrf domain ;-) 12:41:39 <planetmaker> he... the double-size GUI -newgrf doesn't play well with the GUI ;-) 12:43:33 <Ammler> firs is maybe the only reason for 1.1 yet 12:43:51 <planetmaker> what? OpenTTD? 12:43:58 <planetmaker> The NewGRF-GUI! 12:44:09 <Ammler> well, that is just comfort 12:44:20 <planetmaker> I just closed 1.0.4 for creating a scenario. That's no fun 12:44:27 <Ammler> :-) 12:44:53 <planetmaker> and the Cargo-chain view 12:45:07 <planetmaker> which applies to ecs, too 12:45:11 <Ammler> that is also firs related :-) 12:45:15 <planetmaker> :-) 12:45:46 <planetmaker> hm, what else? 12:46:06 <planetmaker> minimap changes somewhat, I think 12:46:11 <planetmaker> but also FIRS-related :-P 12:49:00 <planetmaker> well. There is airport and newobjects support in trunk, too 12:49:04 <planetmaker> quite big features, too 12:49:23 <planetmaker> just not many newgrfs there (i.e. none) 12:49:57 <greenlion> planetmaker, bug is present in 0.4 12:50:01 <Stablean> <Mks> when will 1.1 be out? 12:50:11 <planetmaker> next year 12:50:21 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh 12:50:23 <planetmaker> greenlion: nice to know 12:50:34 <planetmaker> do you make a bug report please? :-) 12:50:40 <planetmaker> and thanks for testing first 12:50:48 <planetmaker> that *really* helps 12:51:08 <planetmaker> maybe even attach you testgame 12:51:15 <Stablean> *** avdg joined the game 12:51:16 <greenlion> planetmaker, filling the bug 12:51:21 <planetmaker> thanks :-) 12:51:22 <Stablean> <avdg> hi 12:53:52 <Stablean> <avdg> looks like its always quite busy here :p 12:55:09 <Stablean> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 12:55:11 <greenlion> planetmaker, http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1516 :) 12:56:20 <planetmaker> thanks 12:56:43 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo joined the game 12:59:00 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo has started a new company (#6) 12:59:27 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 12:59:50 <Stablean> *** fjb joined the game 12:59:56 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hi 12:59:57 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker joined the game 13:00:06 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you should set a company password ;-) 13:00:08 <Stablean> <fjb> Moin 13:00:10 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined spectators 13:00:39 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 13:00:50 <Stablean> *** fjb has left the game (connection lost) 13:00:57 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo has left the game (connection lost) 13:02:00 <Stablean> *** fjb joined the game 13:02:26 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh thnx 13:02:31 <Stablean> *** fjb has left the game (connection lost) 13:02:34 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm? 13:02:46 <Stablean> <greenlion> nice, my oil wells are grown more than 2 times already :) 13:02:57 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh my coal mine haven't grown at all 13:03:07 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> My wood almost doubled :) 13:03:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Mks: did you supply them monthly with engineering supplies? 13:03:27 <Stablean> <greenlion> do you bring supplies to it, Mks? 13:03:30 <Stablean> <Mks> no 13:03:34 <Stablean> <Mks> well not yet 13:03:36 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> then don't expect growth 13:04:10 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh so if you don't supply they won't grow at all? 13:04:20 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I think so 13:04:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> just random production changes 13:04:34 <Stablean> *** Hirundo joined the game 13:04:37 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> while supplies increase the growth chance 13:04:41 <Stablean> <Hirundo> hello 13:04:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hi Hirundo 13:04:49 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> oh oh 13:04:59 <Stablean> <Mks> I see 13:05:01 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you joined an empty company ;-) 13:05:16 <Stablean> <Hirundo> problem being? 13:05:21 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> none at all 13:05:36 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I just told the owner to set a password. Than he lost connection :-P 13:05:39 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> then you joined ;-) 13:06:34 <Stablean> <Hirundo> upon significant payment, I will join any company you want :) 13:06:44 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hehe :-) 13:06:46 <Stablean> <Hirundo> (in-game money not accepted) 13:06:56 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> oh :-( 13:07:02 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... 13:07:06 <Stablean> <Hirundo> pity, there is no industry chains window 13:07:12 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes... 13:07:19 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> and no FIRS 0.4 for stable either 13:07:30 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> and no parameter window 13:07:36 <Stablean> <Hirundo> where does oil go? 13:07:36 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> and... so many nice new things 13:07:38 <Stablean> <Mks> when will FIRS 0.4 support stable? 13:07:40 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> refinery 13:07:46 <Stablean> <Mks> or rather wht version stable is needed 13:07:48 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Mks: never ;-) 13:07:58 <Stablean> <Mks> well firs 0.5 then? 13:07:59 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> OpenTTD 1.1 probably 13:08:05 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh a long time then 13:08:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> maybe 0.5... if it's worth the effort 13:08:19 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> maybe it is 13:08:27 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> that's up to andy to decide 13:08:36 <Stablean> <Mks> if you stop suppling a mine will it decrease production then? 13:08:45 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> dunno 13:08:51 <Stablean> <Mks> why does 0.3 support stable then? 13:09:01 <Stablean> <greenlion> erhm, what does it mean FIRS 0.4 is not supported by stable? and I was testing it on 1.0.4 :) 13:09:01 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> less advanced code 13:09:07 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 13:09:24 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> greenlion: ok, might be that one can run it :-) 13:09:33 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but you cannot download it with a stable version ;-) 13:09:40 <Stablean> <greenlion> ah, ok :) 13:09:51 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> point is that at least industry placement code might not work as expected 13:10:14 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> and no precautions are taken for the missing features in OpenTTD which firs makes use of 13:10:46 <Stablean> <Mks> is there any other thing that makes engineering supplies other then machine shop? 13:10:56 <Stablean> <greenlion> lumber yard 13:11:07 <Stablean> *** tranqi joined the game 13:11:15 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has started a new company (#7) 13:11:27 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm, damn... wrong button :-P 13:11:33 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has joined spectators 13:11:45 <planetmaker> !rcon reset_company 7 13:11:45 <Stablean> planetmaker: Company deleted. 13:11:58 <Stablean> <greenlion> Mks, but beware of swapped production for lumber and chemicals in lumber yard :) 13:12:51 <Stablean> *** tranqi has left the game (leaving) 13:13:29 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Hirundo: mind if I join you? 13:13:36 <Stablean> <Hirundo> not at all 13:14:04 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 13:14:05 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'Stablean' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 13:14:05 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #264 name: 'Hirundo' company: 6 IP: 83.85.247.152 13:14:05 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #228 name: 'Mks' company: 2 IP: 83.176.234.98 13:14:06 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #234 name: 'C2H5OH' company: 4 IP: 83.161.26.11 13:14:06 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #258 name: 'planetm4ker' company: 255 IP: 88.71.51.177 13:14:06 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have one more message 13:14:13 <planetmaker> !rcon move 258 6 13:14:14 <Stablean> planetmaker: *** planetm4ker has joined company #6 13:14:31 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> oh, no need for a password removal ;-) 13:14:50 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but thanks :-) 13:15:40 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> new forests are also nicer in FIRS 0.4 13:15:54 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> what are your plans, Hirundo? 13:16:09 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I built one oil line for a starter 13:16:29 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I see that. But... as money is limited, I don't want to spend that on things you don't like ;-) 13:16:35 <Stablean> <Hirundo> my next plan was to feed the steel mill next to that 13:16:47 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ah 13:16:49 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ok 13:17:01 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I assume, steel is needed for supplies 13:17:23 <Stablean> <greenlion> you can produce supplies from fuel oil 13:17:51 <Stablean> <greenlion> and chemicals 13:17:57 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> he. might even be worth to open a nightly with firs 0.3, pause it and use it for industry chain view :-P 13:18:15 <Stablean> <greenlion> better open docs in browser :) 13:18:21 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Hirundo: !this? 13:18:31 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> greenlion: docs can be out-dated ;-) 13:18:39 <Stablean> <Hirundo> yup 13:18:45 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> TL5? 13:18:55 <Stablean> <greenlion> planetm4ker: true :) 13:19:31 <Stablean> <Hirundo> the trains I have currently are a bit underpowered 13:20:00 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 13:20:02 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> as little slopes as possible :-) 13:23:48 <Stablean> <Mks> can junkyards increase production 13:23:52 <Stablean> <Mks> or are they a fixed? 13:23:55 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> dunno 13:24:13 <Stablean> <Hirundo> they increase with Eng Supplie 13:24:38 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> which engine, Hirundo? 13:25:12 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I used the 10-wheeler now, yet to see how it performs 13:25:30 <Stablean> <Hirundo> though without a correct refit it will go nowhere :) 13:25:47 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I see a 4-4-0 and not 4-6-0. But I'd opt for 4-6-0 Ten Wheeler 13:26:33 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> o_O 13:26:35 <Stablean> <Hirundo> 4-4-0 on the oil trains really slows down, it doesn't even reach top speed 13:28:26 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... German translation of this train set is only partially done 13:28:58 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> "Dienstwagen" in the error message, "Caboose" in the purchase menu 13:30:34 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-D 13:30:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> A steel mill without ore supply ;-) 13:30:50 <Stablean> <Mks> where? 13:30:58 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ours 13:31:00 <Stablean> <Hirundo> it's not realistic!! 13:31:02 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 13:31:04 <Stablean> <Mks> well 13:31:10 <Stablean> <Mks> you don't need to supply iron ore :) 13:31:12 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we all have to die. 13:31:12 <Stablean> <Mks> coal is fine 13:31:21 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Mks: I know ;-) 13:32:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> nice. Train pays 33% of the purchase price with one delivery ;-) 13:32:44 <Stablean> <Hirundo> now, let's connect the machine shop up north 13:33:03 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> sign? 13:33:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> k 13:33:52 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> track left or right of lake? 13:33:54 <Stablean> <Hirundo> we can dump fuel oil + steel there 13:34:07 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I say left 13:34:37 <Stablean> <Hirundo> hmpf, bridges are kind of expensive :( 13:35:00 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-O 13:35:04 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> lool 13:35:13 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> so... left = West? 13:35:34 <Stablean> <Hirundo> although... if you can bridge w/o terraform it's only 10k/bridge 13:35:58 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> oh 13:36:03 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> then let's do that 13:36:03 <Stablean> *** DamianK joined the game 13:36:11 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> though... 13:36:17 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> given your track connection: go around 13:36:36 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ok :-) 13:37:04 <Stablean> <Mks> wow 13:37:10 <Stablean> <Mks> whats up with the tree cost 13:38:06 <Stablean> *** DamianK has left the game (connection lost) 13:39:33 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Hirundo: separate stations for drop + pickup? 13:39:37 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes, rightß 13:39:50 <Stablean> <Hirundo> at least for the steel mill 13:40:00 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I meant machine shop 13:40:14 <Stablean> <Hirundo> yes, while you're at it 13:41:03 <Stablean> <Hirundo> mikado or ten-wheeler/ 13:43:04 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> good question 13:43:12 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> for steel? 13:43:35 <Stablean> <Hirundo> steel / fuel oil 13:43:59 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm 13:45:12 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> take the faster one 13:45:30 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but... it doesn't reach the max speed? 13:45:44 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'll examine the scrap train 13:46:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> other question: how to distribute the eng supplies? 13:46:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> make a depot and from there by car? 13:46:58 <Stablean> <Hirundo> we'll see once we have money 13:47:03 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 13:48:37 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'll re-use the scrap metal configuration of Ten-Weeler+6 flatcars + caboose 13:48:54 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> k 13:50:09 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I like the depot idea... 13:50:19 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> vehicles allow smaller deliveries 13:50:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> thus they spread out more evenly 13:51:06 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> depot=transfer station 13:51:29 <Stablean> <Hirundo> fine by me 13:51:45 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm. 40k gone? Train? 13:51:53 <Stablean> <Hirundo> fuel oil trains 13:52:44 <Stablean> <Hirundo> Mks, one of your trains is stuck at the junk yard 13:53:09 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 13:58:16 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... 32km/h is not fast for the supply trucks 14:00:33 <Stablean> <Hirundo> the next alternative is some sort of cheap engine + wagon, but that's quite a lot more expensive 14:00:56 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I build that now 14:01:41 <Stablean> *** sharpy joined the game 14:01:51 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> crap 14:02:06 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I may not build a station :-( 14:02:08 <Stablean> <Hirundo> where? 14:02:12 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer joined the game 14:02:16 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Senfingfield 14:02:42 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has started a new company (#7) 14:02:49 <Stablean> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 14:03:21 <Stablean> <Hirundo> shall we just re-use the existing rail inrastructure, at least for the others 14:03:35 <Stablean> <Hirundo> nvm 14:03:43 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> oh sorry :-) 14:04:05 <Stablean> <Hirundo> where does sand/gravel go? 14:04:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> glass requires sand 14:05:14 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo joined the game 14:05:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... forgot refit :-P 14:07:39 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I repaid a bit loan 14:09:05 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... 14:09:27 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I guess we need to make a drop station near every industry which needs it. And then use these small vehicles to acutally deliver it 14:09:41 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> this is really inefficient 14:10:05 <Stablean> <Hirundo> because? 14:10:30 <planetmaker> look at the vehicles... 14:10:38 <planetmaker> you need A LOT 14:10:48 <planetmaker> and the supplies just gather dust 14:11:21 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'll be back in a few mins to look at it 14:11:27 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> k 14:15:32 <Stablean> <Mks> can you make a train to unload 50% then leave for next station? 14:15:38 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> no 14:15:46 <Stablean> <Mks> aww 14:16:35 <Stablean> <Mks> but you can make a train load 50% then go for next station right? 14:16:41 <Stablean> <Mks> why can't I make the revesre 14:16:48 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> no 14:17:19 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh doesn't conditional orders work like that? 14:17:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> no ;-) 14:17:58 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you can just load (whatever is there) and then decide upon the load percentage what to do next 14:18:13 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh but I wana do that with unload 14:18:32 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you unload all or nothing 14:18:40 <Stablean> <Mks> :( 14:18:50 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> same with load: either load all what is there. or load till the vehicle is full 14:19:55 <Stablean> <Hirundo> back 14:19:57 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah but with conditional order you can make it leave at 50% for another station right? 14:20:03 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> no 14:20:11 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> wb Hirundo 14:21:24 <Stablean> <Hirundo> HEQS would be nice for this 14:21:38 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes :-) 14:23:03 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I guess, the RV concept works for shorter distances 14:23:28 <Stablean> <Mks> the problem with RVs is you need so damn many if distance gets a bit high 14:23:30 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes 14:23:36 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> implementing it for the ore mine 14:24:09 <Stablean> *** lol--lol joined the game 14:26:18 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy joined the game 14:27:00 <Stablean> *** MrMouthy has left the game (leaving) 14:28:45 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) That area now needs serious re-building 14:28:48 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> or in 5 years 14:29:03 <Stablean> <Hirundo> what area/ 14:29:17 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> machine shop 14:29:21 <Stablean> *** lol--lol has left the game (leaving) 14:29:23 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> that's ugly as hell 14:29:37 <Stablean> <Hirundo> indeed 14:30:22 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I'll tackle that 14:31:50 *** greenlion_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:35:03 *** greenlion has quit IRC 14:36:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> that should suffice for a bit 14:37:28 <Stablean> <Hirundo> now, trains coming to MS pickup from the south side can't reserve a path 14:37:58 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm? 14:38:04 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ah 14:38:08 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes 14:38:22 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 14:38:30 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> solved ;-) 14:39:22 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#10) 14:39:36 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> size 5 14:39:38 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :S 14:40:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> coal mine already doubled production 14:41:17 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 14:41:29 <Stablean> <Hirundo> nice, how the MS has large dump trucks and tractors in 1920 14:41:40 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> haha :-) 14:41:55 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> they have their private engineer 14:42:05 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but they don't do business with us 14:42:07 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-( 14:42:48 <Stablean> <Hirundo> 800k to spend, what's next 14:42:59 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> 800k? 14:43:11 <Stablean> <Hirundo> yes 14:43:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> oh, you mean we _can_ spend? 14:43:41 <Stablean> <Hirundo> including loan, yes 14:43:55 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> what does accept fuel? 14:44:05 <Stablean> <Hirundo> machine shop 14:44:07 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm, we do that :-P 14:44:13 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> some farms? 14:44:21 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we have farm supplies potentially 14:44:31 <Stablean> <Hirundo> do they increase production fast/ 14:44:37 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> not sure 14:44:47 <Stablean> <Hirundo> hmm... I seem to have trouble writing question marks today 14:44:53 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 14:45:23 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we could be funny and move to another machine shop, further away :-) 14:45:30 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> A zeppelin costs 7 million/year :(? 14:45:37 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hehe 14:45:47 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> C2H5OH: yes. Air is just for eye candy 14:45:53 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> And think of the expensive helium 14:46:03 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> LOL, see who'll be the first to afford a plane :P 14:46:10 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yep 14:46:20 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I think, we need more long-distance transportation 14:46:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes 14:46:43 <Stablean> <Hirundo> is there a nice glass works available somehwere? 14:47:00 <Stablean> *** Lutz joined the game 14:47:43 <Stablean> *** Lutz has left the game (leaving) 14:49:05 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> difficult 14:49:06 <Stablean> <Hirundo> what about transporting all our sand/gravel to !cement? 14:49:23 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 14:49:33 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> sure, why not 14:49:44 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> mind, if I nevertheless start with some farms? 14:49:47 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 14:49:48 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I think we can do both 14:50:19 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'm gonna eat something first, before it gets cold 14:50:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 14:50:29 <Stablean> *** Player has joined company #9 14:50:36 <Stablean> <Hirundo> go ahead and do what you like most 14:50:42 <Stablean> *** Hirundo has joined spectators 14:56:09 <Stablean> *** Hirundo has left the game (connection lost) 14:56:18 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} joined the game 14:57:19 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} has joined company #3 15:03:58 <Stablean> *** fjb joined the game 15:04:16 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 15:05:24 <Stablean> *** fjb has left the game (connection lost) 15:05:32 <Stablean> *** greenlion has joined company #1 15:13:24 <Stablean> *** Hirundo joined the game 15:13:44 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we got one long-distance ore mine 15:14:00 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I see 15:14:43 <Stablean> <Hirundo> do we build rail or e-rail? 15:14:55 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I built elrail 15:15:02 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but mine is set to 'most used' 15:15:27 <Stablean> <Hirundo> mine too, I wondered why the erail tool opened automagically 15:17:32 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'm constructing a cement line 15:17:38 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yup 15:17:49 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> the ore mine was only my excuse to make the line profitable right now ;-) 15:17:57 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> it's my tracks to the farms actually :-P 15:19:34 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm. Brown is stealing our supplies 15:19:46 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> its only 6 tons 15:20:09 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I don't complain. It's by the rules 15:20:17 <Stablean> <Hirundo> we'll just buy exclusive rights when we get really rich :) 15:20:32 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> like that. And there are some tricks to get our rating to 100%, if needed ;-) 15:20:36 <Stablean> <Mks> you can't buy exlusive 15:21:32 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° joined the game 15:22:27 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 15:24:14 <Ammler> !players 15:24:17 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 295 (Pink) is Hirundo, in company 6 (Hirundo Transport) 15:24:17 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 228 (Red) is Mks, in company 2 (Mks Transport) 15:24:17 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 274 (Brown) is Drivebyhobo, in company 8 (Drivebyhobo Transport) 15:24:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 234 (Dark Blue) is C2H5OH, in company 4 (C2H5OH Transport) 15:24:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 258 (Pink) is planetm4ker, in company 6 (Hirundo Transport) 15:24:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 272 (Purple) is DayDreamer, in company 7 (DayDreamer Transport) 15:24:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 289 (Yellow) is jor[D]1, in company 3 (jor[D]1 Transport) 15:24:20 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 293 (Green) is greenlion, in company 1 (greenlion Transport) 15:24:20 <Stablean> Ammler: Client 297 (Pale Green) is Brent9000°, in company 10 (Brent9000° Transport) 15:24:31 <Ammler> !info 15:24:31 <Stablean> Ammler: http://stable.openttdcoop.org 15:29:01 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#11) 15:30:08 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Hirundo: what about the Alco/GE Boxcab? 15:30:41 <Stablean> <Hirundo> looks fairly interesting, I think it can pull a TL5 train 15:30:55 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> or rather still the 4-4-2? I'll give it a try, I guess (the Alco) 15:31:07 <Stablean> <Hirundo> does it need a caboose? 15:31:19 <Stablean> <Mks> all trains need caboose if they are to long 15:32:11 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> he. You spend money fast ;-) 15:32:25 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I did some tf here and there 15:32:31 <Stablean> <Hirundo> line is done 15:32:35 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 15:34:20 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> arg 15:34:26 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> no vehicles to transport lifestock :-( 15:34:34 <Stablean> <Mks> ohhh 15:34:36 <Stablean> <Mks> really? 15:34:46 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> street vehicles 15:34:54 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 15:34:58 <Stablean> <Hirundo> pm, could you finish the sand stuff (some transfers +vehicles)? 15:35:04 <Stablean> *** Amm1er joined the game 15:35:26 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'll have to make a 2h public transportation trip w/o internet access :( 15:35:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> right. where do I have to look? 15:35:52 <Stablean> <Hirundo> near the refinery 15:35:57 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ok 15:36:34 <Stablean> <Hirundo> goodbye 15:36:38 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> cu 15:36:42 <Stablean> *** Hirundo has left the game (leaving) 15:36:52 <Stablean> <Amm1er> nice networks 15:37:26 <Stablean> * greenlion doesn't believe his network is nice :) 15:37:29 <Stablean> <Amm1er> are the streamers faster then diesel? 15:37:39 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> same thing 15:37:45 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° has left the game (connection lost) 15:37:49 <Stablean> <greenlion> no diesel available 15:37:59 <Stablean> <Amm1er> well, nice in the sense the "are" networks :-) 15:38:28 <Stablean> <Amm1er> oh, Elektric already :-o 15:38:52 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> when is this game going to end? 15:39:02 <Stablean> <Mks> around 2100 15:39:02 <Stablean> <Amm1er> in around 200 years? 15:41:38 <Stablean> <Amm1er> tf is quite expensive, you shouldn't you it too much ;-) 15:41:46 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yep 15:41:50 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> quite so 15:41:58 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> quite good so :-) 15:42:04 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-) 15:42:32 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I can afford 28x terraforming right now 15:42:52 <Stablean> <Mks> not water :) 15:43:10 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yep. water is insane. 15:43:19 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> which is also good 15:43:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> these values should be default 15:43:31 <Stablean> <Mks> lol 15:43:39 <Stablean> <Amm1er> hehe 15:43:39 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I'm not joking 15:43:41 <Stablean> <Mks> still its only a problem in the begining of the game 15:43:48 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I can't tf one tile on water :-( 15:43:50 <Stablean> <Mks> I mean later on doesn't matter you can TF alot anyway 15:44:27 <Stablean> <Mks> even the game where TF prices was 10x what they are here 15:44:29 <Stablean> <Mks> in the end you could TF 15:44:37 <Stablean> <Mks> tho was impossible in the begining 15:45:00 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> the beginning is quite important 15:45:14 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> those who hold through to a big network don't want to ruin the game usually 15:45:18 <Stablean> <Amm1er> yeah, but that is fine, so admin only needs to be sure, a troll doesn't join a unpassworded company 15:46:01 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has joined spectators 15:46:11 <Ammler> !companies 15:46:14 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 1 (Green): greenlion Transport 15:46:14 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 2 (Red): Mks Transport 15:46:14 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 3 (Yellow): jor[D]1 Transport 15:46:14 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 4 (Dark Blue): C2H5OH Transport 15:46:15 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 5 (Blue): American Donations 15:46:15 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 6 (Pink): Hirundo Transport 15:46:15 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 7 (Purple): DayDreamer Transport 15:46:16 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 8 (Brown): Drivebyhobo Transport 15:46:16 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 10 (Pale Green): Brent9000° Transport 15:46:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 11 (Orange): Buninghall Transport 15:46:18 <Stablean> Ammler: Company 12 (Light Blue): Amm1er Transport 15:46:20 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh not vehicles in your company ammler? 15:46:20 <Ammler> !rcon reset_company 12 15:46:21 <Stablean> Ammler: Company deleted. 15:46:46 <Stablean> <Amm1er> I tfed too much 15:46:52 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-D 15:46:52 <Stablean> <greenlion> no his company already :) 15:47:11 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> lol, Amm1er 15:47:13 <Stablean> <Mks> lol you made a company to TF? 15:47:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you often do that, eh? 15:47:35 <Stablean> <Amm1er> well, as spec, you can't try such things 15:47:55 <Stablean> <Amm1er> and I don't wan't to make a existing company bankrupt :-P 15:48:05 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Drivebyhobo, any reason to place random tracks? 15:48:29 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> at !here? 15:48:30 <Stablean> <greenlion> woo, who is destructing around my tracks 15:48:35 <Stablean> <Amm1er> or shall I join pm and make this lake a nice farm ground? 15:48:49 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> wait what? 15:48:53 <Stablean> <Amm1er> :-D 15:49:05 <Stablean> <greenlion> C2H5OH: go away :) 15:49:13 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Drivebyhobo: what tracks are that at !here ? 15:49:47 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> ? 15:50:01 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> look at the sign !here 15:50:17 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> its not there randomly 15:50:57 <Stablean> <greenlion> hey, C2H5OH now plant some trees there :) 15:51:19 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> But then I can't see what you built :P... 15:51:37 <Stablean> <greenlion> C2H5OH: turn on transparency, dude :) 15:51:51 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> I know :) 15:51:53 <Stablean> <Amm1er> lol, does he bulldoze? 15:51:59 <Stablean> <greenlion> yes :) 15:52:05 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Trees are expensive :) 15:52:21 <Stablean> <Mks> yeah whats up with the price of trees? 15:52:29 <Stablean> <Mks> if you mess up you can't go near a city 15:52:47 <Stablean> <Amm1er> then don't mess up :-) 15:53:05 <Stablean> <Mks> well all you have to do is place a station wrong to mess up 15:53:08 <Stablean> <Amm1er> ask another company to make the "ugly" work for you 15:53:14 <Stablean> <Mks> or you might need to build a second station 15:53:21 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> Hope you like the light green trees :)? 15:54:05 <Stablean> <greenlion> C2H5OH: they're fine :) 15:54:22 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> that's why I've been asking ;-) 15:54:24 <Stablean> <Amm1er> red, you have more loks than waggons :-P 15:54:31 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I needed exactly there to build my supply chains 15:54:43 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> They cost about 15.000 $/a piece :) 15:56:03 <Stablean> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 15:56:29 <Stablean> *** jor[D]1 has left the game (leaving) 16:02:20 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:02:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 16:02:31 <Stablean> <C2H5OH> I got to be going, does anybody want my company/some money? 16:02:53 <Stablean> <Mks> game will pobarbly still be here tomorrow 16:03:58 <Stablean> <Mks> whats the best way to fix when you wish to deliver supplies from same industry to 2 diffrent locations? 16:04:06 <Stablean> <Mks> is it better to have 2 stations? 16:04:17 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> mks: orders 16:04:23 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> a->b->->c 16:04:25 <Stablean> <Mks> well 16:04:33 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> a->b->a->c 16:04:35 <Stablean> <Mks> you said I couldn't unload hafl at one station 16:04:45 <Stablean> <Mks> if I could I would 16:04:55 <Stablean> <greenlion> planetm4ker: and if distance from a to b and to c is different? 16:04:57 <Stablean> <Mks> like transport 10 tons to A and 10 tons to B 16:05:08 <Stablean> <Mks> from C 16:05:10 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> greenlion: yes, so what? 16:05:34 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> if I have one vehicle doing ABAC it will exactly deliver 50% to B and C 16:05:38 <Stablean> <greenlion> mmm... wait 16:05:41 <Stablean> <Mks> ahhh I get it 16:05:51 <Stablean> <greenlion> yes, right 16:05:55 <Stablean> <Mks> so thats better then having 2 diffrent orders? 16:06:13 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Drivebyhobo: build a terminus station at the wood 16:06:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> easier 16:06:18 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° joined the game 16:06:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> like !here 16:06:30 <Stablean> *** C2H5OH has left the game (leaving) 16:06:35 <Stablean> <Mks> and makes it easy to add another drop I guess? 16:06:45 <Stablean> <Mks> so if you have load at A then drop off B C D 16:06:47 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Mks: look at my supply distribution 16:06:51 <Stablean> <Mks> will it be like 33% on each then? 16:06:54 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> at the order of those trains 16:09:42 <Stablean> <greenlion> nice, my oil wells still on top of industries list by production :) 16:11:08 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (connection lost) 16:11:55 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° has left the game (connection lost) 16:12:47 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° joined the game 16:26:09 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 16:26:57 <Stablean> <Mks> seems like everything almost is connected in FIRS so connect that then that and it never ends 16:27:09 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yep 16:31:29 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:32:26 <Stablean> <Mks> why do only 1 farm get the supplies even tho the station cover both? 16:32:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> nearest always gets 16:32:53 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh so I need two stations then to fix that? 16:33:00 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes 16:33:06 <Stablean> <Mks> dang 16:33:12 <Stablean> <Mks> its not alot of space there :P 16:33:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> unless you deliver so many (64k / month?) that the other one gets some, too ;-) 16:40:30 <Stablean> *** sharpy joined the game 16:52:47 <Stablean> *** slaca joined the game 16:55:46 <Stablean> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 17:00:37 <Stablean> *** Sarvik joined the game 17:01:52 <Stablean> <Mks> planetmaker are you suppling all your industries with what they need? 17:02:09 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I try. But I don't think all 17:02:46 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> like, I don't have manufacturing supplies 17:02:52 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> so obviously the meat packer won't get any 17:03:03 <Stablean> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 17:03:05 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh but you have sand so you can make manufactring 17:03:09 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 17:03:37 <Stablean> <BennyCZ> ahoj 17:03:44 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> actually a good idea, mks :-) 17:04:40 <Stablean> *** Bijen joined the game 17:05:09 <Stablean> *** Bijen has left the game (connection lost) 17:06:53 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 17:07:38 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> mks... the cement plant produces goods... 17:07:42 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> not supplies 17:07:56 <Stablean> <Mks> I am not using a cement plant 17:08:17 <Stablean> <Mks> you can deliver sand to a glass works 17:08:24 <Stablean> <Mks> to get manufacturing supplies 17:08:32 <Stablean> <Mks> you get goods as well thought 17:08:42 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving) 17:18:15 <Stablean> *** Sarvik has left the game (leaving) 17:28:11 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> o_O 17:28:21 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° has left the game (connection lost) 17:28:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> 1km/h is NOT good ;-) 17:28:39 <Stablean> <Mks> no 17:28:41 <Stablean> <Mks> not really 17:28:51 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° joined the game 17:51:19 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 18:01:11 <Stablean> *** xakepok joined the game 18:01:56 <Hirundo> planetmaker: bankrupt yet? 18:02:02 <planetmaker> what? 18:02:10 <planetmaker> hey :-) 18:02:15 <planetmaker> not quite 18:02:28 <planetmaker> But my latest engine replacement *might* not have been the best choice. 18:02:41 <planetmaker> I overlooked TE. But on average it might still be better 18:02:42 <Hirundo> Do I need to help pushing? 18:02:44 <Stablean> *** xakepok has left the game (leaving) 18:02:47 <planetmaker> as it's 50% faster 18:03:00 <planetmaker> yes, sometimes :-P 18:03:28 <Stablean> *** Hirundo joined the game 18:03:35 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 18:03:51 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° has left the game (connection lost) 18:04:19 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:04:22 <planetmaker> !rcon companies 18:04:22 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:1(Green) Company Name: 'greenlion Transport' Year Founded: 1900 Money: 4293553 Loan: 0 Value: 6007648 (T:27, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 18:04:23 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:2(Red) Company Name: 'Mks Transport' Year Founded: 1900 Money: 2543960 Loan: 0 Value: 10941241 (T:98, R:17, P:0, S:0) protected 18:04:23 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:3(Yellow) Company Name: 'jor[D]1 Transport' Year Founded: 1901 Money: 1607630 Loan: 480000 Value: 1256938 (T:7, R:16, P:0, S:0) protected 18:04:23 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:4(Dark Blue) Company Name: 'C2H5OH Transport' Year Founded: 1901 Money: 29763215 Loan: 0 Value: 30187645 (T:57, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 18:04:23 <Stablean> planetmaker: #:5(Blue) Company Name: 'American Donations' Year Founded: 1906 Money: 1366258 Loan: 240000 Value: 1143125 (T:2, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 18:04:24 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 4 more messages 18:04:27 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 18:04:27 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'Stablean' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 18:04:27 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #329 name: 'planetm4ker' company: 255 IP: 88.71.51.177 18:04:27 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #228 name: 'Mks' company: 2 IP: 83.176.234.98 18:04:28 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #274 name: 'Drivebyhobo' company: 8 IP: 69.86.227.56 18:04:28 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #319 name: 'greenlion' company: 1 IP: 89.178.167.78 18:04:30 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 3 more messages 18:04:37 <planetmaker> !rcon move 329 6 18:04:37 <Stablean> planetmaker: *** planetm4ker has joined company #6 18:04:48 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ho 18:04:50 <Stablean> <Hirundo> TE is limiting only up to around 36 km/h for the hudson 18:05:23 <Stablean> <Mks> mm slow trains? 18:05:29 <Stablean> <Mks> your not using the 177km/h steam loco? 18:05:40 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I do 18:05:51 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh not all trains? 18:05:57 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> not yet 18:06:10 <Stablean> <Hirundo> Force = min(TE, Power/speed), the 2nd term becomes dominant fairly quickly 18:06:14 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> obviously some didn't get replaced automatically so far 18:07:13 <Stablean> <Mks> I see 18:07:19 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'm gonna connect some more mines / sand pits / etc, ok? 18:09:25 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 18:09:59 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° joined the game 18:10:04 <Stablean> <Mks> to much rails :P 18:10:09 <Stablean> <Mks> hard to connect some things 18:12:05 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo has left the game (connection lost) 18:12:52 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving) 18:14:06 <Stablean> <Hirundo> should newly built trains use the 177 km/h engine or the boxcab? 18:15:11 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... gotta fix some makefiles 18:15:13 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 18:23:02 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo joined the game 18:23:36 <Stablean> *** Chimera joined the game 18:25:47 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 18:26:02 <Stablean> <V453000> hi 18:26:06 <Stablean> <Mks> hi 18:26:08 <Stablean> <Chimera> hey 18:26:08 <Stablean> <greenlion> hi 18:26:14 <Stablean> <V453000> how is it? :) 18:26:14 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> hou 18:26:24 <Stablean> <Mks> to much rails in the way 18:26:30 <Stablean> <V453000> I see :) 18:26:30 <Stablean> <V453000> god 18:26:32 <Stablean> <V453000> good 18:27:05 <Stablean> <Mks> is that good? 18:27:31 <Stablean> <greenlion> with such low station spread it is hard to grow industry infinetely :) 18:27:56 <Stablean> <Mks> well its acually a enough for 1 maxed out mine but 18:28:10 <Stablean> <Mks> harder with the secondary industries I would say 18:28:13 <Stablean> <Chimera> omg the industries settings look rather complex :D 18:28:48 <Stablean> <V453000> DD: train 28 18:28:48 <Stablean> <greenlion> which mine have you maxed, Mks? 18:29:00 <Stablean> <Mks> I haven't maxed out any 18:29:02 <Stablean> <Mks> but 18:29:14 <Stablean> <Mks> I know its enough from other servers 18:29:28 <Stablean> <Mks> acually a station spread of 3 would work 18:29:40 <Stablean> <V453000> do you think I make settings regarding other servers? ... 18:29:54 <Stablean> <Mks> err other game I mean 18:29:54 <Stablean> <V453000> almost an insult :p 18:30:08 <Stablean> <V453000> other game? Starcraft? 18:30:08 <Stablean> <V453000> :D 18:30:20 <Stablean> <greenlion> what is limit for primary industy production? 18:30:42 <Stablean> <V453000> dunno, probably same as for standard ones? 18:30:45 <Stablean> <V453000> really dont know :) 18:30:57 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 18:31:19 <V453000> meh :) 18:31:31 <Stablean> <Mks> mm 18:31:35 <Stablean> *** Chimera has started a new company (#9) 18:31:45 <Stablean> <Mks> fírs is quite complex 18:31:47 <Stablean> <Mks> I only have 1 coal mine 18:31:53 <Stablean> <Mks> and 106 trains 18:33:58 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° has left the game (connection lost) 18:35:39 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° joined the game 18:41:29 <Stablean> <Chimera> hmm this kinda gives me ideeas of huge industrial complexes :D 18:51:13 <Hirundo> planetmaker: why did you build all those bridges next to the steel mill (looks like a half-finished junction) ? 18:51:28 <planetmaker> Hirundo: yes 18:51:34 <planetmaker> that's it exactly 18:51:43 <planetmaker> actually the junction is finished... 18:51:54 <planetmaker> but meanwhile it got nearly impossible to connect tracks 18:51:54 <Stablean> <Hirundo> just connected to the void 18:53:03 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:53:16 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 18:53:16 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'Stablean' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 18:53:16 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #333 name: 'Drivebyhobo' company: 8 IP: 69.86.227.56 18:53:16 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #228 name: 'Mks' company: 2 IP: 83.176.234.98 18:53:17 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #335 name: 'Chimera' company: 9 IP: 86.122.61.204 18:53:17 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #319 name: 'greenlion' company: 1 IP: 89.178.167.78 18:53:18 <Stablean> planetmaker: you have 4 more messages 18:53:21 <planetmaker> !more 18:53:21 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #325 name: 'Hirundo' company: 6 IP: 85.145.113.106 18:53:22 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #339 name: 'Brent9000°' company: 10 IP: 188.23.177.28 18:53:22 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #272 name: 'DayDreamer' company: 7 IP: 94.142.234.1 18:53:22 <Stablean> planetmaker: Client #341 name: 'planetm4ker' company: 255 IP: 88.71.51.177 18:53:28 <planetmaker> !rcon move 341 6 18:53:28 <Stablean> planetmaker: *** planetm4ker has joined company #6 18:54:24 <Stablean> <Hirundo> foundry? 18:54:57 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'm still resolving jams etc 18:55:24 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I'd prefer not to crowd that area further 18:55:42 <Stablean> <Hirundo> It's better to use a different foundry, I think 18:55:50 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> maybe, yes 18:56:06 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> that's what I left with: solving jams here and there. Improving junctions 18:56:06 <Stablean> *** Silniy joined the game 18:56:41 <Stablean> <Hirundo> that's my plan too, just tidy up the whole network so there's room for expanding again 18:56:57 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> o_O you built quite a shortcut there 18:57:18 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> to exactly that junction I re-built just before I left :-) 18:57:32 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I had to get rid of the passing lanes at the steel mill 18:57:42 <Stablean> <Hirundo> They blocked the much-needed expansion 18:57:46 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> passing lane? 18:57:53 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> oh. there 18:58:31 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> is it me or does the server lag? 19:00:17 <Stablean> *** Silniy has left the game (connection lost) 19:02:19 <Stablean> *** {jor[D]1} joined the game 19:03:15 <Stablean> <Hirundo> sending all trains for servicing = not a good idea 19:03:32 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 19:07:29 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I stil feel that (reverse side of 1way pbs signal == safe waiting point) is a misfeature 19:07:41 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> uhm... it's implemented 19:07:54 <Stablean> <Hirundo> at least, when combined with YAPF's habit to pick a random track when lost 19:08:24 <Stablean> <greenlion> hmm... I thought reverse side is not waiting point 19:09:09 <Stablean> <Chimera> ouch 19:09:46 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:12:09 <Stablean> <Chimera> ups ty :D 19:16:29 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I just inaugurated a trans-map goods service 19:18:16 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° has left the game (connection lost) 19:18:48 <Stablean> <Hirundo> pm: would you mind refitting your goods trains to goods? 19:19:08 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> yes. :-P 19:19:48 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hard to do, if they already are :-) 19:19:52 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> thanks 19:19:59 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° joined the game 19:23:00 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> Hirundo: that needed to go temporarily 19:23:04 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> trains didn't find their way 19:23:10 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I notice 19:23:12 <Stablean> <Hirundo> d 19:23:35 <planetmaker> !setdef 19:23:36 <Stablean> *** planetmaker has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 19:23:46 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> why does it wait? 19:23:52 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> ah 19:25:26 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (connection lost) 19:25:40 <Stablean> <Hirundo> any objections against unifying the eng. and farm supplies pickup? 19:25:49 <V453000> pm: setdef should be always on when I create games ;) 19:26:13 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 19:26:27 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> re-applying doesn't hurt 19:26:47 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> what is the cargo weight multiplier? 19:27:05 <V453000> the freight_trains ? 19:27:16 <V453000> 1 should be almost always 19:27:23 <V453000> !rcon set freight_trains 19:27:23 <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'freight_trains' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 255) 19:27:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hard to believe 19:27:33 <V453000> I rarely set it higher 19:27:41 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> double traction slowing down on uphill 19:27:47 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> 2nd most powerful engines 19:28:41 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... I want advanced replace ;-) 19:28:50 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> regex replace :-P 19:31:24 <Stablean> *** jor[D]1 has left the game (leaving) 19:31:28 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> o_O 19:31:42 <greenlion_> 19:31:56 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> a whole set of trains obviously doing loss. 19:31:59 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> something's wrong 19:32:26 <Stablean> <Hirundo> I just added a missing junction piece, that might help 19:32:45 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> for ore trains from the North? 19:32:54 <Stablean> <Hirundo> yup 19:36:14 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 19:38:08 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 19:40:02 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 19:40:08 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I upgraded all those long-distance ore mines to double-traction pensylvania 19:40:47 <Stablean> <Chimera> jord you're around ? 19:40:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hes not 19:41:37 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has started a new company (#11) 19:42:04 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving) 19:48:12 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... you removed the FS pickup? 19:48:23 <Stablean> <Hirundo> yes 19:48:44 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> why? 19:48:53 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> it makes sense to have it a separate station 19:49:46 <Stablean> <Hirundo> It could be re-separated now, now there's room 19:50:12 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> uhm... room? 19:50:32 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> honestly... I'd just use another MS ;-) 19:51:43 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> hm... the other one is also crowded... 19:51:45 <Stablean> <Hirundo> MS pickup is 4 platforms now, that should do for some time 19:52:09 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> not really 19:52:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we need to have excellent service there 19:52:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> we cannot afford to loose that by doubling with FS 19:53:15 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> I separated it for that exact reason 19:54:38 <Stablean> *** greenlion joined the game 19:59:23 <Stablean> *** Chimera has left the game (leaving) 19:59:25 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> you played too much on goal servers 20:01:32 <Stablean> *** Brent9000° has left the game (leaving) 20:04:14 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> merger? 20:04:54 <Stablean> <Hirundo> 1 pound for a transport company is peanuts :) 20:05:02 <Stablean> <Hirundo> even if it has a negative value 20:05:08 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-) 20:05:19 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> yeah, thats a takeover, i just saw merger 20:05:21 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> it's realistic :-P 20:05:38 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> :P 20:06:52 * V453000 was thinking about a merger in a different way :) 20:07:41 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> lol :-) @ running costs air 20:08:15 <V453000> see ships :p 20:08:17 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> tripple our annual earnings 20:08:28 <Stablean> <Hirundo> time to increase our annual earnings, then 20:08:33 <V453000> im not sure which is higher but still :) 20:08:36 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> just saw it when I was offered to test a plane 20:08:43 <V453000> :D 20:08:51 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> 6.5M per year for a 44 pax plane @ 400 km/h 20:09:00 <V453000> with 1/2 speed :p 20:09:03 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> :-P 20:09:09 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> trains do 160km/h 20:09:49 <Stablean> <Mks> 177 even on trains 20:09:59 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> 185 even, if I wanted 20:10:01 <Stablean> <planetm4ker> but not ours 20:10:09 <Stablean> <Mks> ahh 20:10:22 <V453000> !date 20:10:22 <Stablean> V453000: 12 Jun 1943 20:10:24 <V453000> hehe 20:10:25 <Stablean> <Mks> so slow trains 20:10:29 <V453000> fastest for quite some time :p 20:10:35 <Stablean> <Mks> and weak trains 20:10:36 <V453000> Mks: it is 1943 20:10:38 <V453000> whad would you want 20:10:42 <Stablean> <Mks> well they are fast int he begining yes 20:10:44 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> mks,still problems with # 57 20:10:48 <Stablean> <Mks> but they never acually get faster 20:10:53 <V453000> 201 20:10:57 <V453000> is enough I guess 20:11:31 <V453000> btw there is a reason why we use this train set so rarely :p 20:11:38 <V453000> but with FIRS it is quite good 20:11:46 <V453000> (in compare with others) 20:15:17 <Stablean> <Mks> ohh why is it good with FIRS? 20:15:38 <V453000> 2cc set sucks royally, UKRS has basically 4 wagons and I am not sure if fully compatible (but I think it is), Tropic Refurbishment doesnt support additional cargoes, what set am I missing? 20:16:08 <Stablean> <Mks> mm 20:16:14 <Stablean> <Mks> those that are used here I guess 20:16:25 <Stablean> <Mks> well orginal set also 20:16:40 <V453000> original set isnt compatible with firs afaik 20:16:48 <V453000> and if it is, it is ugly :) 20:16:51 <V453000> with it 20:17:18 <V453000> NARS has quite nice wagons ... for example gravel being grey, that isnt in any other :p 20:19:01 <V453000> sure, trains suck ... :) but the steamers are nice for the start, then GG1 is cool ... and well then the AEM7 in the end isnt anyhow very good but 2x TL3 is quite good I think 20:21:08 <Stablean> *** greenlion has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:19 <Stablean> <Hirundo> the company I bought for 1 pound actually makes quite a nice profit :) 20:27:56 <planetmaker> :-) 20:48:13 <Stablean> *** Hirundo has left the game (leaving) 20:56:18 <Ammler> [22:16] <V453000> original set isnt compatible with firs afaik <-- you need old-waggons-new-cargos.grf 21:03:29 <Stablean> *** warmadmax joined the game 21:06:16 <Stablean> *** warmadmax has left the game (leaving) 21:08:25 <V453000> Ammler: does that actually work completely though? 21:08:33 <V453000> not sure 21:08:42 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 21:09:13 <Ammler> me neither, and it is still ugly 21:09:22 <Ammler> as no graphics 21:14:31 <V453000> :) 21:14:39 <V453000> without a doubt 21:18:55 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo has left the game (connection lost) 21:21:09 <Stablean> <Mks> can't you mix NARS with something for better locos? 21:21:59 <Stablean> *** CameronW. joined the game 21:22:37 <Stablean> *** CameronW. has started a new company (#10) 21:24:12 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo joined the game 21:26:47 <Stablean> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 21:27:09 <V453000> Mks: no 21:27:14 <V453000> totally incompatible with any other set 21:27:22 <Stablean> <CameronW.> ty 21:27:25 <V453000> technically (NARS will disable when any other set is added) 21:29:15 <Stablean> <DayDreamer> gn 21:29:25 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 21:29:39 <Stablean> <CameronW.> gn 21:30:32 <Stablean> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 21:32:43 <Stablean> *** sharpy joined the game 21:37:36 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> what is usually the town growth speed here? 21:41:20 <V453000> 1 21:41:21 <V453000> slow 21:41:31 <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 21:41:32 <Stablean> V453000: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 4) 21:41:47 <V453000> when you play for like 100 or more years, you tend to get large towns even with this ;) 21:50:07 <Stablean> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 21:53:24 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure has left the game (connection lost) 21:54:56 <planetmaker> [23:27] <V453000> technically (NARS will disable when any other set is added) <-- read the readme ;-) 21:55:20 <Stablean> <Mks> why does NARS work like that? 21:55:34 <V453000> ask coder 21:55:48 <Stablean> <Mks> well 21:55:54 <Stablean> <Mks> still 21:56:05 <Stablean> <Mks> could be something thats in openttd as well 21:56:26 <V453000> I guess he is thinking that his train set is uber amazing and none can be so rude to stand in one game with it 21:56:34 <V453000> well all others dont do it :p 21:56:57 <Stablean> <Mks> shouldn't be possible to code a newgrf like that 21:59:50 <Stablean> *** CameronW. has left the game (connection lost) 22:00:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:02:02 *** Vitus has quit IRC 22:07:54 <Stablean> *** davis joined the game 22:08:20 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game 22:08:50 *** davis has joined #openttdcoop.stable 22:08:57 <Stablean> <davis> - 22:09:01 <davis> here we go 22:09:02 <davis> !rules 22:09:28 <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (connection lost) 22:10:31 <Stablean> *** davis has left the game (connection lost) 22:10:47 <Stablean> *** davis joined the game 22:38:46 <Stablean> *** warmadmax joined the game 22:44:03 <Stablean> *** warmadmax has left the game (leaving) 22:49:36 <Stablean> *** Troy McClure joined the game 22:56:41 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hobo? you there? 22:56:44 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> yea 22:56:54 <Stablean> <davis> :) 22:56:55 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> i wanna do something, for you 22:57:13 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> i am dubious of offers from televsion pitchmen 22:57:13 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> if you remove those bridges at !here 22:57:21 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill build a bridge over them 22:57:47 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> what did you want me to do again 22:57:57 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> remove bridges, build straight line 22:58:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> ill build bridges over those 23:03:16 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:18:22 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hobo, still there? 23:18:53 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> i am going to be here until i finish my meningville to cardstone bay line 23:20:33 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> alright then 23:21:36 <Stablean> <Drivebyhobo> could you look at cardstone bay? 23:25:44 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo has left the game (connection lost) 23:27:33 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 23:27:40 <Stablean> <V453000> hy 23:27:46 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi 23:29:42 *** greenlion_ has quit IRC 23:30:27 <Stablean> *** {[St]Atheist} Transport joined the game 23:31:14 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 23:33:38 <Stablean> *** [St]Atheist Transport has left the game (leaving) 23:33:58 <V453000> gnight 23:34:04 <Stablean> <Troy McClure> night 23:34:14 <Stablean> <davis> night 23:34:17 <V453000> dont play all night :P 23:34:29 <davis> haha i'll try 23:36:30 <Stablean> *** CameronW. joined the game 23:38:44 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined spectators 23:38:44 <Stablean> *** CameronW. has left the game (connection lost) 23:38:55 <Stablean> <davis> hey Mks 23:39:22 <Stablean> <Mks> hi 23:39:36 <Stablean> *** Mks has joined company #2 23:40:22 <Stablean> *** Drivebyhobo joined the game 23:51:20 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:57:16 <Stablean> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 23:57:24 <Stablean> *** davis has left the game (connection lost)