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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 8th June 2012:
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03:14:27  <BiG_MeEcH> re-hi
03:14:29  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
03:14:31  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1026 is Phillip, a spectator
03:14:31  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 655 (Pale Green) is pav, in company 10 (pav Transport)
03:14:31  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 929 is Mazur, a spectator
03:14:48  <Stablean> <pav> hi :)
03:15:11  <Stablean> <Phillip> hello
03:15:26  <Stablean> <Phillip> I'm bored again.
03:17:18  <BiG_MeEcH> go blow up some trains
03:17:45  <Stablean> <Phillip> Or do that blade with trains and buses again.
03:22:35  <BiG_MeEcH> nah, thats so 2011
03:32:12  <Stablean> <Phillip> Fine, I'll start a little company then.
03:32:15  <Stablean> *** Phillip has started a new company (#15)
03:40:51  <BiG_MeEcH> yayyyyyyyyy
04:10:23  <Stablean> <Phillip> Can you give me money so I can build and survive?
04:10:49  <Stablean> <pav> no problem, but how to give you money ?
04:11:59  <Stablean> <pav> you are limited to 10 road venicles ... develop trains ...
04:12:19  <Stablean> <Phillip> When you hold on the guy in the menu bar, release the mouse where it says "Client List" and then hold the mouse on the person's name and then press on "give money" and enter the amount you want to do.
04:12:41  <Stablean> <Phillip> I am building a train line.
04:13:12  <Stablean> <pav> k. dont buy any ships or planes .... its incredibly expensive support
04:13:36  <Stablean> <Phillip> I know what to do. I have been here for a few months so I know this game.
04:14:14  <Stablean> <Phillip> thanks
04:14:36  <Stablean> <pav> its this server specifice, not the game as whole ... np :)
04:16:02  <Stablean> <Phillip> Purple made  docks and a depot.
04:21:54  <Stablean> <Phillip> see you later
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05:33:16  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
05:44:07  <Stablean> <Anson> when Dixon is available, he should URGENTLY fix his problems : too many steel pickups are queueing and thus blocking the ore drop ... all trains are stuck
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09:09:55  <Stablean> <V453666> hi
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09:09:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> morning
09:10:02  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> hi V453666
09:10:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> your island is impressive!
09:10:15  <Stablean> <V453666> :)
09:11:05  <Stablean> <V453666> that is what nuts allows me to build
09:11:44  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> whats special about nuts
09:12:11  <Stablean> <V453666> well in this case maglev trains being a lot less fragile to short curves, and having a bit better acceleration than Lev3
09:12:37  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> id noticed that 4L trains didnt slow on 3L curves
09:12:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i LIKE IT!
09:13:42  <Stablean> <V453666> it makes the game easier and harder at the same time
09:13:52  <Stablean> <V453666> easier because you can make a lot more things in the same space
09:14:06  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo
09:14:08  <Stablean> <V453666> harder because that means you care a lot more about system of the network when you dont have to bother about the layout as much
09:14:08  <Stablean> <V453666> hi
09:15:20  <Stablean> <Anson> i have set up a few trams to clean up blocks of pickup/drops ... they caused Dixon's entire net to be blocked ....
09:15:55  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so you're the man when it comes to refits V
09:16:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pluntford sawmill
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09:16:28  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'd like to give it a go
09:16:30  <Stablean> <V453666> sup with that
09:16:41  <Stablean> <V453666> @@ABR11
09:16:42  <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 11: Refit Stations at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/02/16/advanced-building-revue-11-refit-stations/
09:16:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pluntford was a temporary thing 100 years ago, ignore how crap that station is
09:16:47  <Stablean> <V453666> hf? :)
09:16:50  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> read it
09:16:56  <Stablean> <V453666> good
09:17:06  <Stablean> <Supremacy> hi, any hope for restart soon ? :)
09:17:08  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as with full waiting bays a few games ago i'll build then get critique?
09:17:10  <Stablean> <V453666> if you dont know where to start just write down a list what the station needs
09:17:18  <Stablean> <V453666> sure
09:17:36  <Stablean> <V453666> maybe the list first iss a good thing
09:17:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i have PSG197 running here too
09:18:24  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> this map doesnt have a huge station spread though
09:19:06  <Stablean> <V453666> 197 is old
09:19:34  <Stablean> <V453666> want to join the irc so I can give you links?
09:19:37  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes, but useful
09:20:24  <Stablean> <Supremacy> hah, and you said i was a train torturer, i think dixon beats me there :D
09:20:40  <Stablean> <V453666> :d
09:22:58  <Stablean> <V453666> start from the end
09:23:00  <Stablean> <V453666> the drop part
09:23:22  <Stablean> <V453666> lets just build a separate station
09:23:26  <Stablean> <V453666> and then put it to use
09:23:52  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so just a standard drop
09:24:18  <Stablean> <V453666> more or less
09:24:32  <Stablean> <V453666> now you need tunnels to have stuff above
09:24:46  <Stablean> <V453666> better up
09:25:01  <Stablean> <V453666> to compensate with the landscape around
09:25:09  <Stablean> <V453666> hm
09:25:44  <Stablean> <V453666> now the refit above tunnels
09:25:50  <Stablean> <V453666> first thing is waypoint
09:25:53  <Stablean> <V453666> always add a waypoint before depots
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09:26:27  <Stablean> <V453666> now some depot
09:26:45  <Stablean> <V453666> trains arent too short so probably multiple depots is not a bad idea
09:27:13  <Stablean> <V453666> maybe even the simpliest way this time
09:27:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ooo
09:28:18  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> if you do one half, i'll build the other
09:28:28  <Stablean> <V453666> just try to understand it
09:30:26  <Stablean> <Anson> small hint: signs can be deleted by everybody .... including old signs from the old australian company
09:31:04  <Stablean> <Anson> a bug !? .... some track pieces of the old australian company still exist and have owner N/A ....
09:31:22  <Stablean> <V453666> tramtracks?
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09:32:23  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, tram tracks and tunnels
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09:32:41  <Stablean> <Anson> near the sign "adopt me please"
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09:33:08  <Stablean> <V453666> you should know that KrunchyAl :d
09:33:10  <Stablean> <Supremacy> tramtracks are like road, they don't dissapear when company goes belly up
09:33:24  <Stablean> <V453666> yes
09:33:27  <Stablean> <V453666> more or less
09:33:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what about that 30% cargo? is that an oppurtunity to spam the near middle end orders?
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09:33:53  <Stablean> <Anson> but most of them are gone ... only a few remeined
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09:34:09  <Stablean> <Supremacy> mybe someone used some dynamite
09:35:15  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, sup, it is near your tracks and stations ... did you use the dynamite ?
09:35:26  <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah , were in my way :)
09:36:32  <Stablean> <V453666> so that would be the station
09:36:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> simples :p
09:36:46  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, the rest is gone now too ... used some more dynamite :-)
09:36:52  <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D
09:37:02  <Stablean> <V453666> got a goods drop ready?
09:37:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nah
09:37:16  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'll go find one, couldnt afford when i set things up before bed last night
09:37:31  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm also deleting the old signs now ... "Adopt me please, signed East Australia Company" makes no sense now
09:37:33  <Stablean> <V453666> Netbridge?
09:37:48  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yeah was halfway thru building that station last night when an oil ref appeared here
09:37:54  <Stablean> <V453666> alright
09:39:29  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hm this makes network much more complex because trains will need entry to primaries from all directions
09:39:39  <Stablean> <V453666> yes
09:39:49  <Stablean> <V453666> not that much complexity
09:39:51  <Stablean> <V453666> juts a few more splits
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09:41:56  <Stablean> <V453666> want to set the orders?
09:42:02  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yeah
09:42:37  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> should probably connect the saw mill end :p
09:43:10  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh, thats probably easier
09:44:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> train 47
09:44:51  <Stablean> <V453666> no
09:45:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how do make that order
09:45:16  <Stablean> <V453666> in the bottom right there is a dropdown arrow
09:45:19  <Stablean> <V453666> just like the conditional orders
09:45:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ghot it
09:45:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> got it
09:46:11  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hmm
09:46:30  <Stablean> <V453666> just continue
09:46:36  <Stablean> <V453666> what is after pickup
09:46:36  <Stablean> <V453666> a drop
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09:47:14  <Stablean> <V453666> that is the basic cycle
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09:47:19  <Stablean> <V453666> now conditions
09:47:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> like if 0 then refit to wood
09:48:00  <Stablean> <V453666> so lets make space for it by another conditional
09:48:26  <Stablean> <V453666> as order 8
09:48:32  <Stablean> <V453666> now behind order 8 we can add anything
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09:49:04  <Stablean> <V453666> so we add there a waypoint
09:49:14  <Stablean> <V453666> and done
09:49:20  <Stablean> <V453666> if 0 then go to waypoint and then to refit to wood
09:49:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thats pretty sweet
09:49:29  <Stablean> <V453666> now the other thing
09:49:32  <Stablean> <V453666> less than 100% loaded
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09:49:48  <Stablean> <V453666> this must be after equal to 0 becuase equal to 0 is involved in the 100% condition
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09:50:01  <Stablean> <V453666> and if it is less that n 100% we want to transfer the goods back
09:50:09  <Stablean> <V453666> so first we need the transfer order
09:50:32  <Stablean> <V453666> because we want both of the transfer and refit orders be done together we just add the transfer in front of the refit
09:50:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ok
09:50:54  <Stablean> <V453666> and now I just add the condition
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09:52:31  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
09:53:09  <Stablean> <V453666> done :p just replace all trains with this order
09:53:19  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i messed up order 10
09:53:19  <Stablean> <V453666> and just replace the first order with a different pickup
09:53:31  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how do i change the order jumpto number
09:53:53  <Stablean> <V453666> cant
09:53:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh when i add it i click on 14?
09:53:55  <Stablean> <V453666> kill and redo
09:53:59  <Stablean> <V453666> yes
09:54:45  <Stablean> <V453666> omg
09:54:48  <Stablean> <V453666> use nonstop orders
09:54:51  <Stablean> <V453666> always use nonstop orders
09:55:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i blame my reinstall :P
09:56:11  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, nice propgram on #47 :-) ... i did similar a few times and it works nicely ... but i had a problem with PBS and the waypoint
09:56:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> tx for your help again V
09:56:16  <Stablean> <V453666> yw
09:56:54  <Stablean> <Anson> when the train comes to the waypoint, it gets the order to go to a depot, thusselects a specific depot at that time, and the double depot with PBS doesn't work
09:56:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what problems
09:57:06  <Stablean> <V453666> yes but that should work now already
09:57:09  <Stablean> <V453666> it was bugged some time ago
09:57:19  <Stablean> <Anson> the train has to get to the PBS first, then the waypoint
09:57:25  <Stablean> <V453666> if it doesnt, it should be reported again
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09:58:02  <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... i tried only some version(2) ago ... on 1.1.x or at most 1.2.0
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09:58:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> this is cool
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09:58:51  <Stablean> <V453666> I usually never use PBS for the depots either but here when we already did it as a 3 platform depot, a normal one wouldnt suffice
09:58:54  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> presumably you can take it to ridiculous levels
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09:59:53  <Stablean> <Anson> I'm watching the waypoint and PBS ... seems to work now
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10:04:13  <Stablean> <Anson> was that a bug, or only a feature, that passing a PBS didn't change the order to which depot the train should go ?
10:04:23  <Stablean> <V453666> bug
10:04:38  <Stablean> <V453666> the order should really work like ... first depot you meet, do this
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10:06:08  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that was the problem ... the trains used to select a depot first, and then wait at the PBS for that specific depot ...
10:06:55  <Stablean> <Anson> but "first depot you meet" is a bit unclear ... the train didn't "meet" a depot when it passes the PBS
10:07:22  <Stablean> <Anson> (i would call "entering the depot" meeting ?!)
10:07:48  <Stablean> <V453666> if it is by this order then it should select a depot anyhow imo
10:07:50  <Stablean> <V453666> it does, but still
10:08:05  <Stablean> <V453666> it works so that if it meets a depot on the way, it does the order in there
10:09:15  <Stablean> <Anson> would that also mean that a single depot near a track might be skipped when the train passes a PBS and another depot is somewhere further down the track ?
10:10:51  <Stablean> <V453666> probably yes
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10:11:19  <Stablean> <Anson> could result in interesting new layouts for service stations/autoreplace, etc
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10:14:07  <Stablean> <Anson> still watching yout superstation ... all trains go to the left half of the drop and thus start filling up the refit-depots
10:15:55  <Stablean> <Anson> probably too many signals directly behind the first split for left and right halves ?
10:16:18  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> too many vehciles in game
10:18:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sendling all left is ok though?
10:18:38  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so long as when required it sends on right?
10:19:01  <Stablean> <V453666> if all 3 platforms on the left are full it will send them to the right
10:19:03  <Stablean> <Anson> the trains stack up the the refitting depot since there are too many
10:19:13  <Stablean> <V453666> oh wow
10:19:15  <Stablean> <V453666> big flaw :)
10:19:33  <Stablean> <Anson> total of 6 trains waiting in refitting depots
10:19:33  <Stablean> <V453666> well that is why it is good to build stack-proof depots ... which doesnt work with pbs :>
10:20:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh - V built it. i take no responsibility :P
10:20:47  <Stablean> <Anson> when tracks are really crowded, maybe 1 depot per platform would be needed
10:21:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm going to send more trains at it
10:21:10  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> two more pickups are being converted with new trains
10:21:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> primaries i mean
10:21:28  <Stablean> <Anson> but 2 depots work nicely when some trains would also use the right half of the drop when the left drop is not yet filled with a back queue
10:23:33  <Stablean> <Anson> when trains are moving and don't start to stop at the entry, the signal gap could be bigger ??? then the pathfinder (which looks mostly at the first few signals) would better distribute trains to left and right
10:25:09  <Stablean> <Anson> ah ... trains now also going to the right :-)
10:25:19  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> big gap though
10:25:29  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but i guess at a split thats not a problem
10:25:52  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ah and the goods demand is being met now
10:26:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which is good
10:26:24  <Stablean> <Anson> when trains are moving and one goes left and the next goes right, a gap of TL shouldn't hurt ?!
10:26:55  <Stablean> <V453666> it isnt as simple as X depots per X platforms
10:27:06  <Stablean> <V453666> it is about making sure that trains can easier exit the depots than enter
10:27:12  <Stablean> <V453666> which needs some presignal stuff
10:27:51  <Stablean> <Anson> depots are empty now !!!!
10:28:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i force emptied them
10:28:17  <Stablean> <Anson> sending some trains also to the right (at least for now) solved the problem
10:28:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> by stopping anything entering
10:28:26  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dozer :)
10:28:28  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL
10:29:52  <Stablean> <Anson> would be nice to have an easy method to compute and/or display the unload and load times
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10:32:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who is green?
10:32:10  <Stablean> <Supremacy> how green ? :)
10:32:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> supremacy
10:32:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> madinghall power station
10:32:26  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you're missing a PBS
10:32:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which is causing a big jam
10:32:34  <Stablean> <Supremacy> ty
10:32:44  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1 click too much .. :D
10:33:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thats why i hate other signal grfs
10:33:10  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its hard enough already
10:33:48  <Stablean> <Supremacy> hate small spaces... can't build my behemot stations :(
10:34:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the sawmill is nice
10:34:17  <Stablean> <Supremacy> it shure is
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10:39:06  <Stablean> <Anson> a very rough estimate : trains need ca. 20 seconds to enter the last part of the drop, unload and leave, and they need 5 seconds to enter or level the depots ...
10:40:02  <Stablean> <Anson> 3 trains in 20 sec at the drop, and at the depot, 3 trains need 15 sec to enter one depot while 3 other trains leave the other
10:40:43  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> forgive my stupidity, but what does timing them help with?
10:40:46  <Stablean> <Anson> rally tight fit ... almost the same time for unloading and the depots ... and i may be off by 1 or 2 seconds ....
10:41:25  <Stablean> <Anson> if 3 trains unload in 20 seconds and want to refit in a depot, and the depot can handle less than 3 trains in the same time, you have a problem
10:41:41  <Stablean> <Supremacy> timing makes things run on schedule, anti-jam. Uber micro manangement
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10:42:14  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't speak of giving timetable orders ... just estimating the throughput of the drop and the depots
10:42:17  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so you work out how long it takes a train to travel 5 tiles?
10:42:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the left is still more heavily used than the right
10:43:03  <Stablean> <Anson> i simply watched the trains and counted the time to enter the last part of the drop, enter the platform, unload, and leave completely
10:43:26  <Stablean> <Anson> that was about 20 seconds, and 3 trains are doing it parallel
10:43:36  <Stablean> <Anson> thus around 7 seconds per train
10:44:42  <Stablean> <velvet> breakdowns are disabled on this server!
10:44:52  <Stablean> <Supremacy> which is great !
10:45:06  <Stablean> <velvet> it is not real
10:45:09  <Stablean> <velvet> so it is bad
10:45:11  <Stablean> <Supremacy> this game is not real
10:45:15  <Stablean> <velvet> yes it is
10:45:29  <Stablean> <Anson> many professionals try avoiding PBS ... but maybe PBS would better look ahead and distribute trains more evenly for left and right
10:45:31  <Stablean> <Supremacy> so.. you've seen trains networks like these outside your window?
10:45:43  <Stablean> <velvet> i read baout pbs
10:45:57  <Stablean> <velvet> thay are more realistic than blocka and others
10:46:03  <Stablean> <velvet> *blocks
10:46:43  <Stablean> <Anson> PBS in reality requires trains to stop, ask permission from a central place to advance, etc
10:47:08  <Stablean> <Anson> and in reality, no train decides for itself whether and where to go after a split
10:48:14  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want that kind of realism, there is another open train simulator which requires you to set up exact train plans, when and where they should go, etc
10:48:55  <Stablean> <Anson> and when a train in that game is on one track and 3 parallel tracks are empty, other trains still would queue up if you didn't set up everything right
10:49:02  <KenjiE20> in reality, a signaller has already decided about 2 miles prior
10:50:50  <Stablean> <velvet> truew
10:50:56  <Stablean> <Anson> lets start to determine whether thisgame can be realistic ... trains go 5 tiles per sec with a speed of a few hundred kph ... thus a 5TL train has a length of a few kilometers at least, if not a few dozen ... :-)
10:51:26  <Stablean> <velvet> some trains need half year to go from station to station :)
10:52:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> cant buy road vehicle, too many vehicles in game
10:52:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i have 10!
10:52:21  <Stablean> <velvet> 10 is a limit
10:52:25  <KenjiE20> pbs is easy, the only time you need a pbs signal, is when more than one train can traverse an area at the same time
10:52:29  <Stablean> <velvet> it is sad...
10:52:29  <Stablean> <Anson> this game is as realistic as a game simulation can be, and still be fun
10:54:04  <Stablean> <Anson> kenji: PBS also helps save space in very tight situations
10:54:27  <KenjiE20> that still falls under multiple in the same block
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10:55:38  <Stablean> <Supremacy> any hope for restart soon?
10:58:44  <Stablean> <velvet> there will be toyworld probably :D
10:58:59  <Stablean> *** velvet has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
10:59:35  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> seconded, restart pls
10:59:37  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thirded
11:00:17  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i have the whole day off work and want to conquer a bit of a map entirely :p
11:00:30  <Ammler> you guys have a map to load?
11:00:44  <Ammler> !date
11:00:45  <Stablean> Ammler: 20 Jun 2126
11:00:54  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pls not toyworld :p
11:00:56  <Stablean> <velvet> 3 or more os us want restart
11:01:02  <Stablean> <velvet> *of
11:01:23  <Ammler> I don't want suggestions for how t create next map, I WANT next map from YOU :-)
11:01:30  <Stablean> <velvet> there is so warm in Warsaw.....
11:01:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'll make one
11:01:38  <Stablean> <velvet> and Euro 2012
11:01:42  <Ammler> cool
11:01:58  <Stablean> <velvet> `
11:02:14  <Stablean> <velvet> it has to be toyworld with BYBBLES and COLA!!!
11:02:36  <Stablean> <Supremacy> toyworld was probably the worst thing that could have happened to ttd :D
11:02:37  <Ammler> remember to be sure to use bananas newgrfs only
11:02:38  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what industry set shoudlwe have?
11:02:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> FIRS? ECS?
11:02:50  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which railset
11:02:50  <Stablean> <Supremacy> Firs :D
11:02:56  <V453000> !getsave https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/StableNUTS19.sav
11:02:57  <KenjiE20> toyland ftw
11:02:58  <Stablean> V453000: OK :-)
11:03:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> firs 2 votes (me included)
11:03:04  <Ammler> oh
11:03:14  <Stablean> <velvet> i dont know what are you talking about :O
11:03:18  <Ammler> there is one :-)
11:03:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toyland hurts my EYES
11:03:28  <KenjiE20> pfft
11:03:34  <Ammler> sorry V
11:03:41  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players)
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11:03:46  <V453000> np :p
11:03:47  <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game
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11:03:47  <V453000> !auto
11:03:48  <Stablean> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
11:03:49  <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players)
11:03:50  * Ammler goes away :-P
11:03:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh chirst
11:03:53  <Stablean> <Supremacy> gotta be kidding me...
11:03:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it happened
11:03:59  <Stablean> *** velvet has started a new company (#2)
11:03:59  <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
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11:04:11  <Stablean> <Supremacy> seems i have to wait for next game... bye
11:04:14  <Stablean> *** Supremacy has left the game (leaving)
11:04:22  <Stablean> <velvet> oh it is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:04:24  <KenjiE20> haha
11:04:27  <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has started a new company (#3)
11:04:47  <V453000> noob :)
11:05:15  <KenjiE20> only the best truly apppreciate the ways of toyland :p
11:05:40  <V453000> only the worst dont :p
11:06:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that is a good argument :P
11:06:10  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive actually never played toyland
11:06:14  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it just looks ghastly!
11:06:20  <Stablean> <Anson> how fast are trains entering and leaving depots ? ... the same speed in theory, but maybe they brake a moment later when they already are 1 or 2 tiles into the depot, and on leaving they have the speed limit all the time ?
11:06:38  <KenjiE20> one of my personal favorite games was toyland, waay back when only TT/TTD existed
11:08:44  <BiG_MeEcH> hi
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11:12:27  <V453000> and you probably havent yet seen my train set in toyland KenjiE20 :p
11:12:49  <KenjiE20> no, but I heard about the nyan cat
11:13:15  <V453000> not in teh set anymore
11:13:20  <KenjiE20> :(
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11:16:06  <BiG_MeEcH> tac nayn ;)
11:16:25  <BiG_MeEcH> like its so evil , its right up V's alley
11:16:35  <BiG_MeEcH> imsurprised its not in the set =D
11:17:08  <BiG_MeEcH> * hint
11:19:48  <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#1)
11:21:33  <BiG_MeEcH> hi?
11:21:40  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
11:21:42  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1224 (Dark Blue) is KrunchyAl, in company 3 (KrunchyAl Transport)
11:21:42  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1226 is Mazur, a spectator
11:21:42  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1229 (Orange) is velvet, in company 2 (velvet Transport)
11:21:42  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1231 (Red) is Anson, in company 1 (Anson Transport)
11:21:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hello
11:21:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> good day
11:22:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> welcome
11:22:02  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nice to see you
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11:22:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hell
11:22:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> howdy
11:22:34  <Stablean> <Big Meech> o
11:22:44  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toyland is hurting my eyeballs
11:22:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> gouge your eyes out
11:23:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it would hurt less
11:23:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
11:23:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> probably
11:23:23  <V453000> do you at least use the manly ttd graphics set for toyland?
11:23:36  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> opengfx
11:23:48  <V453000> then dont whine that it hurts your eyes
11:23:53  <Stablean> <Big Meech> just gouge your eyes out
11:23:59  <Stablean> <Big Meech> and add tac nayn
11:24:07  <KenjiE20> ttd toyland best toyland
11:24:27  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has started a new company (#4)
11:25:56  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hmm =[ I gotta leave soon
11:26:02  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has joined spectators
11:26:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> grr
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11:29:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hi v
11:29:34  <Stablean> <V453666> hi
11:29:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> probably easier to make a small line to start Velvet
11:29:43  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hi V
11:32:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> V453666: * tickles
11:34:10  <Stablean> <velvet> are hopper or tanker wagons better than universal?
11:34:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> id go with universal
11:34:26  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but there is no difference
11:34:34  <Stablean> <velvet> ok
11:34:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> as long as they are same gen
11:34:42  <Stablean> <V453666> hoppers look a bit better in 1st and 2nd gen
11:34:56  <Stablean> <V453666> well up to you to decide if they look better :)
11:34:57  <Stablean> <V453666> I think they do
11:35:04  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I like Dennis Hopper
11:35:14  <Stablean> *** V453666 has started a new company (#4)
11:36:11  <Stablean> <Big Meech> V453666: i had a good plan on the furthest island on the left
11:36:23  <Stablean> <V453666> do it?
11:36:28  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i gtg soon
11:36:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> sadly
11:36:50  <Stablean> <velvet> yes they have some symbols
11:36:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm going for this big one in the middle
11:36:59  <Stablean> <velvet> ant ist look diffrent
11:37:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> starting with candyfloss
11:37:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> KrunchyAl: not when velvet invades, yo uarent =P
11:37:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why would velvet do that?
11:37:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> he already has
11:37:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> he has one station
11:37:59  <Stablean> <velvet> yet
11:38:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> which isnt connected to anything
11:38:09  <Stablean> <Big Meech> soon it will be connected to ALL
11:38:13  <Stablean> <velvet> :D
11:41:28  <Stablean> <velvet> Kruunchy can i compete with you?
11:41:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> compete? how so
11:41:50  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol
11:42:15  <Stablean> <velvet> to use the yourfabrics
11:42:39  <Stablean> <Big Meech> I wanna haul fabric
11:42:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i don't understand?
11:42:54  <Stablean> <Big Meech> quilters will be pleased
11:42:56  <Stablean> <velvet> hmm
11:44:19  <Stablean> <Big Meech> be back
11:45:36  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh man i was saving that space velvet for ll rr
11:45:41  <Stablean> *** Supremacy joined the game
11:45:52  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my island!
11:45:55  <Stablean> <V453666> wtf
11:45:55  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
11:46:00  <Stablean> <V453666> velvet please stay on your island
11:46:07  <Stablean> <velvet> ?
11:46:10  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game
11:46:27  <Stablean> <V453666> you have your own island at the bottom of the map, stay there please
11:46:29  <Stablean> <velvet> bad
11:47:32  <Stablean> <Supremacy> other islands are usable only if you expand your original one, but first you have to use most resources there :)
11:49:01  <Stablean> *** Supremacy has started a new company (#5)
11:49:02  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> velvet, any chance you could remove those tracks so you dont forget later?
11:49:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see !here
11:49:15  <Stablean> <velvet> i want to use it alter
11:49:21  <Stablean> <V453666> no you don want to use it later
11:49:21  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has started a new company (#6)
11:49:27  <Stablean> <velvet> yes want :D
11:49:33  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i want to use it later
11:49:43  <Stablean> <V453666> ok, put it in other words. Either delete them yourself or I will
11:49:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as you can see its going to get busy up there
11:49:51  <Stablean> <V453666> and I have more mass destruction methods than just few rails
11:50:50  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> velvet?
11:50:56  <Stablean> <velvet> i deleted it
11:51:02  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see !here
11:51:13  <Stablean> <V453666> and Flutbridge station
11:51:32  <Stablean> <velvet> i was first here!
11:51:39  <Stablean> <V453666> no?
11:51:41  <Stablean> <velvet> yes!
11:52:08  <Stablean> <V453666> still stay on your bottom island
11:52:13  <Stablean> <Supremacy> velvet, trolling or something?
11:52:22  <Stablean> <velvet> i wanted to connect it
11:52:24  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> everyone seems to butt with me
11:52:28  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> first kyler, now velvet
11:52:34  <Stablean> <V453666> right, you guys have 5 minutes to sort this out, then I will
11:52:53  <Stablean> *** velvet has left the game (leaving)
11:52:54  <Stablean> <V453666> solved
11:52:54  <Stablean> <Supremacy> well, that seems to settle it :D
11:53:03  <V453000> !rcon reset_company 2
11:53:03  <Stablean> V453000: Company deleted.
11:53:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> woo
11:53:17  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what happened?
11:53:35  <Stablean> <V453666> he refused to discuss?
11:53:37  <Stablean> <V453666> so he left
11:53:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
11:54:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> glad there are rules
11:54:24  <Stablean> <V453666> some people are ridiculous
11:54:59  <Stablean> <V453666> bottom island is free btw Supremacy/happy
11:55:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> maybe i want it
11:55:11  <Stablean> <V453666> if you felt like not sharing :)
11:55:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i want to connect it
11:55:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> save it for later
11:55:17  <Stablean> <V453666> you have one big island already
11:55:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm being sarcastic?
11:55:23  <Stablean> <Supremacy> bah, when did you get here :D
11:55:25  <Stablean> <V453666> lol
11:56:03  <Stablean> <Supremacy> i guess i'll move bottom side than ..
11:56:11  <Stablean> <V453666> thx
11:58:09  <Stablean> *** Mazur has started a new company (#2)
11:59:29  <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
12:02:03  <Stablean> <Supremacy> mazur, please move to some other island
12:02:13  <Stablean> <V453666> :D
12:02:27  <Stablean> <V453666> there is a free one just north of there
12:02:33  <Stablean> <Mazur> Noone was using it when I started.
12:02:36  <Stablean> <Supremacy> that should be specified in rules or something :D
12:02:54  <Stablean> <Supremacy> i'm pretty sure i had a station and some tracks laid before you joined the server
12:03:05  <Stablean> <Mazur> But, as I planted my station in the wrong place anyway...
12:03:15  <Stablean> <V453666> :D wow
12:03:29  <Stablean> *** Mazur has joined spectators
12:03:35  <Stablean> <Supremacy> wow.. indeed  :D
12:03:35  <Stablean> <Supremacy> thanks :)
12:04:26  <Mazur> !ercon reset_company 2
12:04:31  <Mazur> !rcon reset_company 2
12:04:31  <Stablean> Mazur: Company deleted.
12:04:36  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was very easy to get started this round
12:05:51  <Stablean> <V453666> nuts and relatively flat land, cant want much more
12:06:14  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> isthere a way i can disable catenary
12:06:44  <Stablean> <Supremacy> he has got oddly flat land
12:06:54  <Stablean> <Supremacy> but why lots of water and mountains?
12:08:14  <Stablean> <Supremacy> this is the only server with good newgrfs and breakdowns turned off, but not much space to build :D
12:08:44  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i think V showed last time you dont need much space
12:08:44  <Stablean> <V453666> use the space better :)
12:08:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you can have your bribe back later V453666
12:09:10  <Stablean> <Supremacy> i can use space conservatly, i just like to build more freely :)
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12:12:07  <Stablean> <V453666> bribe? :o
12:12:16  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> for the compliments
12:12:19  <Stablean> <V453666> lol
12:13:47  <Stablean> <Supremacy> is razing towns allowed?
12:14:45  <Stablean> <V453666> already? :D
12:14:59  <Stablean> <V453666> it is allowed if it has a good reason
12:15:06  <Stablean> <V453666> when you have space now it shouldnt be needed
12:15:45  <Stablean> <Supremacy> at now it hasn't, later i think :D
12:15:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> blow up all the towns
12:15:47  <Stablean> <Big Meech> they dont dserve to live
12:15:55  <Stablean> <V453666> rule n1 dont listen to meech
12:15:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> tac nayn will raze them all
12:16:01  <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D
12:16:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the idea of a battery farm
12:16:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its just nuts
12:16:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> the idea of nuts, is nuts
12:16:21  <Stablean> <Big Meech> =p
12:16:27  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> OH PAHAHAH
12:16:34  <Stablean> <V453666> its not my fault that this climate is mental
12:16:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sarcasm looses something in the IRC
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12:25:32  <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah... anyone knows a good LL_RR non-ro-ro station ? :D
12:25:38  <Stablean> <V453666> no I dont know anything
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12:25:53  <Stablean> <Supremacy> you obviously lie..
12:26:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i hate it when you build a route to a factory and it closes before the first load arrives
12:26:42  <Stablean> <V453666> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Junctionar
12:26:48  <Stablean> <V453666> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Junctionary
12:27:18  <Stablean> <Supremacy> almost found one at PS game236, but it was somewhy 1 entry 2 exit lanes..
12:27:37  <Stablean> <V453666> the idea of all stations is mostlythe same
12:27:39  <Stablean> <V453666> just adapt
12:27:43  <Stablean> <V453666> you dont have to 1:1 copy it
12:29:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> god darn this TF costs
12:29:04  <Stablean> <V453666> I havent tfed a single tile yet
12:29:06  <Stablean> <V453666> why did you
12:29:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> cuz i suck
12:29:13  <Stablean> <Supremacy> heh, new stations and junctions in wiki since last time
12:29:33  <Stablean> <Supremacy> to be fair, you use TL2 :)
12:29:44  <Stablean> <V453666> therefore?
12:29:54  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like tunnels
12:29:54  <Stablean> <V453666> he uses cl1 anyway
12:30:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that helps with wanting to TF
12:30:10  <Stablean> <V453666> you like tunnels and you leave a game when you cant build bridges
12:30:13  <Stablean> <V453666> :D k
12:30:18  <Stablean> <Supremacy> smaller TL , smaller turns, less need for flat space
12:30:30  <Stablean> <V453666> that doesnt mean you have to tf with higher tl
12:31:16  <Stablean> <Supremacy> you don't have to tf with TL 20 too, but for the sake of speed, i'd still do it..
12:32:03  <Stablean> <V453666> in the start of the game you have speed 90
12:32:06  <Stablean> <V453666> you can use cl1
12:32:18  <Stablean> <V453666> regardless of tl
12:32:41  <Stablean> <Supremacy> meaning you have to rebuild later on. Some may do it, i prefer not to :)
12:32:55  <Stablean> <V453666> then build better from start? :)
12:33:05  <Stablean> <Supremacy> hence tf for me :D
12:33:07  <Stablean> <V453666> you have to expand the network rather soon anyway
12:33:22  <Stablean> <V453666> I mean, this is _flat_ landscape
12:33:32  <Stablean> <V453666> you really dont need to tf for a long time
12:33:39  <Stablean> <Supremacy> sadly it is very flat :(
12:33:45  <Stablean> <V453666> so dont blame high tf costs :)
12:33:51  <Stablean> <Anson> at the start of this game, there were three engines with speed 80, 100, and 120
12:34:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like TF
12:34:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm addicted
12:34:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its like crack
12:34:23  <Stablean> <V453666> too bad
12:35:33  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> diags are a pain with TFing
12:41:41  <Stablean> <Supremacy> it has been long since my public server games.. looking at the old ones, i were some in game 30-40 :D
12:41:49  <Stablean> <Supremacy> in some game*
12:41:59  <Stablean> <Supremacy> bah. some in games*
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12:50:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hmm my island is huge
12:51:27  <Stablean> <Supremacy> thats nice, ferrying 1 passanger 2 tiles yields no profit at all :)
12:52:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> right i know i moaned earlier, toyland is fun
12:53:45  <Stablean> <Supremacy> mos fun i've had was on some guy MEGA server, used ECS and map was heightmap of Holland with hand picked semi real industry placement and towns
12:54:03  <Stablean> <Supremacy> tried searching for the height map, but no luck :(
12:54:35  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i used to like a map called big smoke
12:54:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it had 2wide space cleared for trains and hand placed groups of industries interspercing the towns
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13:17:33  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> could i have feedback on 'a tasty drop;
13:17:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the exit with the reverser?
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13:18:22  <Stablean> <Supremacy> with more traffic i reckon it will jam
13:19:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ideas for fixing?
13:21:47  <Stablean> <Supremacy> you're in a bind there
13:21:51  <Stablean> <Supremacy> mybe like the other drop site?
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13:22:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my swiss circle?
13:22:08  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
13:22:11  <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah :D
13:24:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thoughts?
13:24:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> they can use the reverser if clear, then if not they get sent the long way out
13:24:41  <Stablean> <Supremacy> seems good
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13:29:24  <Mazur> !rcon move 1288 255
13:29:24  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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13:31:40  <Mazur> !rcon move 1295 255
13:31:41  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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13:52:18  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> blegh
13:52:20  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> bye
13:52:22  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i should probably plan better
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14:09:35  <BiG_MeEcH> -rehi
14:11:07  <Stablean> <Big Meech> hello Happy Transport
14:11:18  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi big meech
14:11:48  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7)
14:12:12  <Mazur> !rcon move 1309 255
14:12:12  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
14:12:16  <Stablean> <Big Meech> you're going to wat to change your name player
14:12:16  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
14:12:36  <Stablean> <Big Meech> lol ? what
14:12:42  <Stablean> *** Big Meech has changed his/her name to Meech
14:12:49  <Stablean> *** Meech has changed his/her name to NiTreXxX
14:12:55  <Stablean> *** NiTreXxX has changed his/her name to Big_Meech
14:12:55  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> lol
14:13:01  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to NiTreXxX
14:13:03  <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> now it works
14:13:03  <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> xD
14:13:07  <Stablean> *** NiTreXxX has joined company #7
14:13:12  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> not sure, it does that sometimes
14:13:31  <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> you´re the admin here ?
14:13:42  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> what makes you ask that?
14:13:48  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> is there a problem ?
14:13:51  <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> no it isnt
14:13:56  <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> cant I ask that ? :D
14:14:10  <Stablean> <Big_Meech> you just did =D
14:14:57  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8)
14:15:06  <Stablean> *** NiTreXxX has joined spectators
14:15:12  <Stablean> <NiTreXxX> kind of full here huh
14:15:26  <Mazur> !rcon move 1312 255
14:15:26  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
14:15:32  <Stablean> Mazur: client_name 1312 Criss
14:15:32  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has changed his/her name to Criss
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14:16:34  <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9)
14:17:02  <Mazur> !rcon move 1314 255
14:17:02  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
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14:18:20  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be backe in 15 mints
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14:18:32  <Mazur> !rcon move 1314 255
14:18:32  <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox
14:18:34  <Stablean> Mazur: ‎*** Player has joined spectators
14:18:38  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Criss
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14:20:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the industries here are great really
14:20:11  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sugar, batteries etc
14:20:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like the animations
14:20:35  <Stablean> <chester> buy me
14:21:38  <Stablean> <chester> wtf i cant buy a ship
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14:27:50  <Stablean> <pav> I have  internet interrupts for  10 min constantly :(
14:29:44  <Stablean> <pav> I love V's  tiny network ... 2ith all thouse small trains
14:31:14  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> would anyone like to coop with me?
14:32:21  <Stablean> <pav> I'll pass this game I think ... maybe later ... neeed to relearn  some things first, ty :)
14:32:43  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh yes, i am a total master
14:32:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> have you seen my network?
14:32:55  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its big but completely messy
14:33:17  <Stablean> <pav> its really big mess, but its really huge :)
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14:37:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> pav how come you're not in a company
14:38:06  <Stablean> <pav> I have interruption in internet connection ...
14:41:16  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who's built at my sweet factory?
14:41:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> criss please remove your tracks
14:42:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> Criss: please remove your tracks
14:42:24  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see !here
14:42:36  <Stablean> <Criss> where?
14:42:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> little bunnbury woods
14:42:50  <Stablean> <Criss> why?
14:43:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> have you read the rules?
14:43:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> because it is stealing
14:43:15  <Stablean> <Criss> ok
14:43:25  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and also, it's where i want to put my station
14:43:52  <Stablean> *** Criss has left the game (general timeout)
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14:44:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why's it alwaqys ME!
14:44:34  <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
14:46:10  <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
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14:48:03  <KrunchyAl> hello
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14:54:16  <KrunchyAl> !admin a player is stealing from my sweet factory and i need their tracks removed please!
14:54:16  <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
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14:54:43  <KrunchyAl> BiG_MeEcH, are you there
14:55:27  <Stablean> <pav> Criss company will dissapear soon, no need admin I think
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14:55:44  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its so annoying
14:55:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i sound like a baby
14:55:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
14:56:32  <Mazur> !rcon reset_company 9
14:56:32  <Stablean> Mazur: Company deleted.
14:56:44  <Stablean> <pav> btw its better if you offer money support to criss to move  to another place ... but ...
14:56:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> he left pretty quick
14:57:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but will do next time
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14:57:11  <Stablean> <Mazur> pav: here is no need for that, the rules are dead simple.
14:57:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> woo he's gone
14:57:34  <Stablean> <Mazur> Now I can get back to my peace and quiet.
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14:57:50  <Stablean> <pav> its not about rules, its about coop I think too :)
14:58:18  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> respecting your fellow humans!
14:58:28  <Stablean> <pav> :)
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15:13:59  <Stablean> <nicfer> anyone I can coop?
15:14:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup
15:14:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> myself
15:14:33  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> help me tidy up a bit and start LL RR ing
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15:16:46  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> connect more primaries?
15:17:04  <Stablean> <pav> Krunchy you have jam ...
15:17:10  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup, autoreplace
15:17:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sorting it
15:17:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> wondered why my money was running out :P
15:21:26  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup
15:21:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> jam
15:22:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> redo the junctions too, most of this was done in 1925 around here
15:26:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> we can always move the entrace / exit for the sweet drop closer to rentborough? or leave it on the double hub?
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15:34:05  <Stablean> <DnZ-Ali> hi
15:34:12  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
15:34:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> alright
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15:50:34  <Stablean> <nicfer> what's up with the lag?
15:53:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> blooming laggggg
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16:34:17  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sup!
16:34:53  <Stablean> <Supremacy> hi
16:34:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i was attempting humour
16:34:53  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
16:34:57  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> combining your name with a greeting
16:35:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> 'sup'
16:35:04  <Stablean> <Supremacy> heh :D
16:35:10  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but i'm not sure it was actually funny
16:35:32  <Stablean> <Supremacy> made me chuckle a bit after you explained it :d
16:35:35  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> would anyone like to help us kill slinborough?
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16:39:25  <Stablean> <nicfer> curves shall be CL4
16:39:36  <Stablean> <nicfer> @@tl4
16:39:38  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> except for by the sugar
16:45:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> zombie slam
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17:15:58  <Stablean> <Supremacy> krunchy, enjoing the pleasures of upgrading L_R to LL_RR on the fly ? :D
17:16:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nicfer is doing all the hard work
17:16:26  <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D
17:16:28  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but it is hideous
17:16:34  <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah, been there :D
17:16:44  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i couldn't afford to do it from the start
17:16:56  <Stablean> <Supremacy> i still can't :D
17:17:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's difficult on public servers as you feel the need to spread out as fast as possible so people dont nick your stuff
17:17:37  <Stablean> <Supremacy> i find TF costs to be the thing that slows
17:17:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you can help us if you want
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17:18:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> think i'm going to rework sweetie pie to double the number of platforms
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17:18:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> create a north facing set
17:18:15  <Stablean> <Supremacy> not ready to invest so much in toyland :D i'll build my island full and upgrade to LR_LR and bye bye
17:18:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i just disable trees
17:18:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> makes it ok
17:18:42  <Stablean> <Supremacy> oh disable trees is on :D
17:18:48  <Stablean> <nicfer> I think 6 platforms is enough
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17:27:56  <Stablean> <ACM> Eye bleeding goodness!
17:28:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's wonderful
17:28:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> if you disable trees
17:28:43  <Stablean> <Anson> isn't thare a list of all stations ? i can't find it ....
17:29:01  <Stablean> <ACM> It's the button that looks like a station.
17:29:01  <Stablean> <Supremacy> left from coin icon top
17:29:19  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the station icon :P
17:29:21  <Stablean> <Anson> thanks
17:30:49  <Stablean> <Anson> and there probably still is no option to get rid of some unwanted items on stations, ege when i no longer service some industry or accidentally let a wron type of wagon go there ?
17:31:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nope
17:31:08  <Stablean> <Supremacy> in couple of years it goes away
17:31:10  <Stablean> <Supremacy> or more
17:31:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> delete the station
17:31:26  <Stablean> <Supremacy> it does go away
17:31:40  <Stablean> <Supremacy> when ratings drop, cargo typically goes
17:31:44  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> oh
17:32:07  <Stablean> <ACM> That just sauses you to have a 0% rating on that cargo forever though.
17:32:11  <Stablean> <ACM> *causes
17:32:33  <Stablean> <ACM> It doesn't -unflag- the cargo, does it?
17:32:40  <Stablean> <Supremacy> dunno
17:33:31  <Stablean> <ACM> I remember as a kid playing the demo toTTD, thinking this was great.
17:33:43  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was on a floppy
17:33:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the copy i had from the front of a mag
17:33:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and was time limited
17:34:00  <Stablean> <Supremacy> first it even wasnt a ttd, just tt :D
17:34:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> to think how far ottd has bbrought the game on is incredible
17:34:29  <Stablean> <ACM> I even remember TT before TTD.
17:34:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup
17:34:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> in 94 i was 6, but got my first comp when i was 9
17:35:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> a 486 no less, with windows 3.1
17:35:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and a 4GB hdd!
17:35:30  <Stablean> <ACM> I wasn't into computers at that time.
17:35:44  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 4gb seems tad bit much for that time, you shure?
17:35:54  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was a compaq from my dads work
17:35:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> they were throwing out
17:35:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes im sure
17:36:08  <Stablean> <ACM> The copy of TTD I've got is a CD. And I've got two in this house.
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17:36:37  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hi Mazth
17:36:43  <Stablean> <ACM> I think it was 1999 that I got it.
17:36:46  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how was your peace and quiet?
17:36:48  <Stablean> <Mazth> hiiii noobies!
17:37:11  <Stablean> <Mazth> it was delightful ;)
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17:38:55  <Stablean> <Mazth> vinnie suddenly from quatar?
17:39:02  <Stablean> <Vinnieq> ^^
17:39:08  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 4gb seems still too much.. 2 min search got me to a 1gb for PCs that time
17:39:19  <Stablean> <Vinnieq> im an idiot that presses keys while in the mp screen
17:39:25  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> well i cant prove it!
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17:39:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but im sure, or was till you questioned it
17:39:45  <Stablean> <Supremacy> :D
17:39:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it ran monster truck madness
17:40:09  <Stablean> <Supremacy> During the mid-1990s the typical hard disk drive for a PC had a capacity of about 1 gigabyte
17:40:15  <Stablean> <Supremacy> quote from wiki
17:40:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> deadlock
17:40:31  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 4gb isn't impossbile
17:40:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nah, we nicfer is expaning a junction
17:41:27  <Stablean> <Anson> my first harddisk was 10 MB and cost 1500 DM :-)
17:41:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i lost my logic :(
17:42:03  <Stablean> <Mazth> there must be chaos to his logic!
17:42:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> need help?
17:42:44  <Stablean> <Mazth> I need space
17:42:50  <Stablean> <Anson> my first external storage before that was a 5.25" floppy and cost 1500 DM too :-)
17:43:09  <Stablean> <Mazth> man those huge disks were sexy
17:43:29  <Stablean> <Mazth> green on black flickering dash <3
17:43:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Nuts fills the game so fast, cheap trains fast profit
17:43:53  <Stablean> <Anson> one pack of 5.25" floppies cost 150 DM ... storage per disk 140 KB
17:44:11  <Stablean> <Supremacy> TF costs balances a bit
17:44:21  <Stablean> <Mazth> you guys trained m too well, now every one makes huge networks :P
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17:44:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i did nothing
17:44:58  <Stablean> <Mazth> did you not see all the logics they copied from you?
17:45:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive only been playing online for a week
17:45:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i played offline for a couple of days since and its boring
17:45:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> woudlnt go back
17:45:45  <Stablean> <Supremacy> well my LR_LR inspiration came from PS game 29 :)
17:46:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thats oldscool
17:46:25  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, there are a few (LOL) trains waiting in front of Sweetie Pie .... or maybe ALL trains are waiting there ? :-)
17:46:29  <Stablean> <Supremacy> built itsy bitsy during games 31-40
17:46:35  <Stablean> <Supremacy> myself
17:46:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dw, nicfer is upgrading the junction
17:46:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> they'll clear
17:47:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's about 18 months of jam to clear so will take a while
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17:47:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nicfer: build faster :P
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17:47:39  <Stablean> <Supremacy> look at operating profit graph to see mayor upgrades in his network :D
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17:49:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that was smart
17:49:20  <Stablean> <Mazth> err lol
17:49:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what did i miss? went away for a min
17:49:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> nicfer made new company do kill some buildings in Kebourne
17:49:52  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> standard
17:50:02  <Stablean> <Mazth> or use trees?
17:50:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> this is cheaper
17:50:11  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as it see it the problem is !here
17:50:13  <Stablean> <Mazth> true
17:50:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> all trains it seems want to go thru here
17:50:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> connect the second track as a temp further ahead
17:51:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you want to coop vin?
17:51:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can play for a couple of minutes
17:51:42  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> :)
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17:51:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sexy
17:51:58  <Stablean> <ACM> I just realised something.
17:52:12  <Stablean> <ACM> I don't think I've ever seen all the stages of the toyland headquarters
17:52:30  <Stablean> <Mazth> there are stages for the HQ?
17:52:36  <Stablean> <Mazth> determined by what?
17:52:43  <Stablean> <ACM> performance rating.
17:52:51  <Stablean> <Supremacy> hah.. so small castle for director..
17:53:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you got a missing connection, thats why they take one track
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17:56:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> forgive my distance, im distracted
17:57:53  <Stablean> <Mazth> for the secondaries need all the primaries be supplied or does 1 primary also produce secondary goods?
17:58:03  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1
17:58:06  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1 suffices
17:58:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oh temp removed jammed something
17:58:19  <Stablean> <Supremacy> with original industries
17:58:25  <Stablean> <Supremacy> but not with FIRS or ECS
17:58:31  <Stablean> <Mazth> ok
17:59:31  <Stablean> <Mazth> lol hate it when there is no space :P
17:59:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its part of the challenge
17:59:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> although that lake would be useful if gone
18:00:35  <Stablean> <Mazth> it is doable :P I just feel like I am getting in the way
18:01:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i reckon it'd be 100mill for that lake to fill it in
18:01:32  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 577.039.940
18:01:32  <Stablean> <Mazth> :P
18:01:32  <Stablean> <Supremacy> pounds
18:01:32  <Stablean> <Mazth> that sounds more like it
18:01:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> wowzer
18:01:41  <Stablean> <Supremacy> hold shift under to get an estimate of something
18:01:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> got it
18:02:11  <Stablean> <Supremacy> sometimes it lies thou
18:02:21  <Stablean> <Mazth> well iti s an estimate
18:02:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah but if it lies its always cheaper
18:03:57  <Stablean> <Mazth> lol pink went crazy with the stations walks :P
18:04:53  <Stablean> *** Mazth has started a new company (#7)
18:06:16  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ooo, i like the hidden deps
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18:07:09  <Stablean> <Mazth> meh too much trouble
18:07:24  <Stablean> *** Mazth has joined spectators
18:07:34  <Stablean> <Anson> not much trouble ... almost exactly the same as you have now
18:08:12  <Stablean> <Anson> only need to add 3 tiles of track and use another signal
18:10:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> anson, rentborough heights
18:10:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> like that?
18:10:57  <Stablean> <Anson> i watched you building it :-)
18:11:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i do like reversers
18:11:49  <Stablean> <Anson> it even would be easy to extend the station up to 4 platforms when needed :-)
18:12:25  <Stablean> <Anson> only change woul be that the reverser has to be kept long enough
18:12:47  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : those trains are TL4 ? the reverser is only TL3 now
18:13:09  <Stablean> <Anson> or maybe 3.5 :-)
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18:13:25  <Stablean> <KJ> hi
18:13:31  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
18:14:21  <Stablean> <pav> revers dont work now
18:16:48  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> see the reverer length i planned it based on the deopt placement, whereas it should be based on the further platform placement
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18:18:44  <Stablean> <Anson> pav : which reverser doesn't work ?
18:19:46  <Stablean> <pav> it was expanded revers, but only for first train ... for a while, its ok now ...
18:19:46  <Stablean> <Supremacy> and done. all primaries on my island connected :)
18:20:26  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i might fund one just to piss you off :p
18:20:45  <Stablean> <Supremacy> that would be bad :D
18:20:54  <Stablean> <Supremacy> and nice 100 trains
18:22:02  <Stablean> <pav> when you fund  industry, its spawn somewhere randomly ?
18:22:10  <Stablean> <Supremacy> depends on the servers settings
18:22:12  <Stablean> <KJ> yeah
18:22:27  <Stablean> <KJ> its says prospect, so its random
18:22:30  <Stablean> <Supremacy> when it says prospect for a primary , it spawns random
18:22:36  <Stablean> <Supremacy> ah, beat me to it
18:22:42  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ill spawn 50
18:22:44  <Stablean> <Anson> setting is either costly and a location you select, or cheap and random
18:23:39  <Stablean> <Supremacy> i'd say 111 trains for 6wide non-ro-ro is bit too much :D
18:23:43  <Stablean> <pav> haha, it will be fun to fund 100 industries  :)
18:23:56  <Stablean> <Supremacy> and sweetie pee ? :D
18:24:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who did that!?
18:24:28  <Stablean> <Anson> you need to give the number of trains per minute or hour, not otal number on the track
18:24:28  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> im all for a north / south split at sweetie pie
18:24:34  <Stablean> <nicfer> trolololol
18:25:00  <Stablean> <Supremacy> on this size , its too much..
18:26:31  <Stablean> <Anson> last game, a maglev station with 6 platforms (non-roro) did around 15-20 trains per minute ... that would be 100 trains in only 5-7 minutes :-)
18:27:19  <Stablean> <Supremacy> i think you get my point............
18:27:33  <Stablean> <Supremacy> no need for nit picking
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18:29:13  <Stablean> <Anson> no picking ... it only reminds me on an old joke about a coffee filter ... usable for 1000 cups ... one after the other :-)
18:29:27  <Stablean> <Supremacy> :d
18:29:50  <Stablean> <Anson> same for trains ... my station can service 1 million trains ... if the game runs long enough :-)
18:30:12  <Stablean> <KJ> lol
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18:30:45  <Stablean> <Anson> and the reverse conclusion is that you can't tell whether 6 platforms are good or not, for 100 trains when you don't give the time frame
18:31:11  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> 6 platforms seem to do ok so long as the exits are good
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18:32:09  <Stablean> <Anson> many people only count the trains on the track or network, but that would ignore distances, type, speed, etc ... thus i asked for "trains per minute or hour"
18:35:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> thought it was dumb my own HQ was in the way
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18:38:40  <Stablean> <pav> Jam time again :)
18:40:14  <Stablean> <Supremacy> anson , i just saw what was before my eyes, a 6 tile wide station servicing 111 trains and a jam...
18:41:48  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> err my money?
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18:42:10  <Stablean> <Supremacy> it seems it went away
18:42:16  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it seems !?
18:42:18  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
18:42:24  <Stablean> <KJ> deleted water/builed a bad bridge?
18:42:46  <Stablean> <nicfer> who can lend us some money?
18:42:57  <Stablean> <KJ> nope :(
18:43:04  <Stablean> <nicfer> thanks
18:43:06  <Stablean> <Supremacy> np
18:43:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> would you like to coop sup?
18:43:23  <Stablean> <Supremacy> going for a little jog in 5 mins
18:43:33  <Stablean> <Supremacy> mybe next game, when it's not toyland and is FIRS :D
18:43:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how long in minutes is a game year
18:44:09  <Stablean> <pav> 15 min
18:44:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive been playing for 8.25 hours non stop without food or drink
18:44:46  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i think i need a life
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18:44:50  <Stablean> <KJ> lol
18:44:53  <Stablean> <KJ> :D
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18:58:38  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who's rebuild sweet jeebuzz exit?
19:00:26  <Stablean> <V453000> hi
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19:00:30  <Stablean> <KJ> hey
19:00:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> howdy
19:01:29  <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #6
19:03:29  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> who has 500 mil?
19:03:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> then we could riase that second lake!
19:04:13  <Stablean> <KJ> :P
19:09:11  <Stablean> *** Kyler has started a new company (#8)
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19:09:33  <Stablean> <Kyler> hey
19:09:35  <Stablean> <KJ> hi
19:09:39  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
19:09:49  <Stablean> <Kyler> i didnt have internet for the night :(
19:09:55  <Stablean> <Kyler> until now
19:09:57  <Stablean> <KJ> aww
19:10:11  <Stablean> <KJ> i didnt had the time :(
19:10:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that sucks
19:10:25  <Stablean> <Kyler> ya
19:10:53  <Stablean> <Kyler> what is this settng
19:10:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toyland
19:11:01  <Stablean> <KJ> :D
19:11:19  <Stablean> <Kyler> wow this looks ugly
19:11:29  <Stablean> <Kyler> gotat go
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19:11:39  <Stablean> <KJ> lol
19:11:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> *mop the blood off his eyeballs*
19:11:59  <Stablean> <KJ> been there. done that.
19:12:49  <Stablean> <V453000> seriously
19:12:52  <Stablean> <V453000> you use opengfx
19:12:58  <Stablean> <V453000> what is so eyehurting about toyland
19:12:58  <Stablean> <KJ> yeah
19:13:08  <Stablean> <KJ> the trees!
19:13:08  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol im alright really
19:13:30  <Stablean> <KJ> well.. not ugly per ce.. but very confusing
19:14:52  <Stablean> <V453000> you dont know what eyehurt is
19:15:06  <Stablean> <KJ> how so?
19:16:14  <Stablean> <V453000> ttd toyland has much more agressive colours
19:16:25  <Stablean> <V453000> it is beautiful but it hurts
19:16:31  <Stablean> <V453000> unless you get used to it..
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19:18:01  <Stablean> <KJ> i found a picture of ttd.. now i just love opensfx
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19:22:52  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> hmm zombie autopilot
19:22:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but not until the money is 10 mil plus
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19:36:24  <Stablean> <pav> who do reconstruct near Little Bunnbury Mines? Its nice to watch it ...
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19:59:49  <Stablean> <KJ> wb
19:59:57  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i finally ate
20:00:01  <Stablean> <KJ> ^^
20:00:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i feel much better
20:00:15  <Stablean> <KJ> i can imagine that :P
20:00:38  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and have cider too
20:00:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> also watching london boulevard with the wife too
20:00:58  <Stablean> <KJ> ill have a 0.5l beer in a minute :D
20:01:12  <Stablean> <KJ> never heard of
20:01:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> colin farrel, keira knightley
20:01:26  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its probably bad
20:01:29  <Stablean> <KJ> :')
20:01:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but she likes the trash
20:01:57  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and im indifferent
20:02:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that exit for sweet jeebuzz works well whoever did it!
20:02:31  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> going to have to start signing!
20:02:33  <Stablean> <KJ> ^^
20:02:37  <Stablean> <KJ> it wasnt me:p
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20:03:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> that's better
20:03:50  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> increased the sprite cache on my mac and life is playable now
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20:05:53  <Stablean> <KJ> too bad your life resets every ~2 days :P
20:06:47  <Stablean> <pav> you can save game and continue development ...
20:07:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
20:07:27  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i will save this one i think
20:08:13  <Stablean> <pav> I just tried, choose multiplayer game and load save ... you become server ...
20:08:57  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it wasnt me
20:09:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> someone added it, maybe nic?
20:19:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> six platforms is enough
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20:28:51  <Stablean> <Kyler> back
20:29:01  <Stablean> <KJ> hi
20:29:04  <Stablean> <Kyler> hey
20:29:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> welcome back young padawan
20:29:15  <Stablean> <Kyler> .... wow
20:29:21  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi
20:29:35  <Stablean> <KJ> haha
20:29:45  <Stablean> <Kyler> who this the indestries are stupid
20:30:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dude you're playing a game
20:30:06  <Stablean> <Kyler> still
20:30:08  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's not exactly the pinacle of realism
20:30:14  <Stablean> <Kyler> for excample bubbles
20:30:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> whats stupid about bubbles and cola making fizzies?
20:30:23  <Stablean> <KJ> oh god
20:30:27  <Stablean> <KJ> the complainging Kyler is back
20:30:29  <Stablean> <Kyler> what?
20:30:31  <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah, bubbles are idiotic
20:30:33  <Stablean> <KJ> one time its oil
20:30:40  <Stablean> <KJ> now its bubbles
20:30:40  <Stablean> <KJ> :D
20:30:50  <Stablean> <Kyler> i never complained about oil
20:30:57  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> we should come up with a TIRS
20:31:00  <Stablean> <KJ> correction: everything, except oil
20:31:08  <Stablean> <Kyler> not true
20:31:18  <Stablean> <Supremacy> bubble generator seems to lose all its bubbles, but somehow they still end up on my trains..
20:31:28  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its like a power station innit
20:31:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> its smoke comes out the chimney but the elecrtic still goes somewhere :p
20:31:45  <Stablean> <Kyler> what goes to what
20:31:56  <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm cofused
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20:32:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i cant believe you dont take issue with a candyfloss forest
20:32:18  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> or battery farm !
20:32:29  <Stablean> <KJ> battery farms are awesome!
20:32:41  <Stablean> <Kyler> ive never played toyland
20:32:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i like the industires
20:32:59  <Stablean> <Kyler> and i hate it
20:33:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i was 100% against toyland at 10am this morning, but now i'm all for it
20:33:19  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i still prefer temperate i think
20:33:22  <Stablean> <Supremacy> yea.. i hate it too, but i playedit to end it :D
20:33:40  <Stablean> <KJ> yeah
20:33:46  <Stablean> <KJ> temperate or desert
20:33:53  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  kyler candey floss gos to sweet factory
20:33:56  <Stablean> <Kyler> its to hilly to build a station
20:33:59  <Stablean> <Supremacy> with FIRS :)
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20:34:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> FIRS is good - very complex but good
20:34:14  <Stablean> <KJ> with NUTS ;)
20:34:24  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> next game with FIRS i'm going to all out with the refits
20:34:44  <Stablean> <KJ> :)
20:34:50  <Stablean> <Supremacy> making the complex even more complex.. good for you :D
20:34:52  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i enjoyed learning them last game
20:34:55  <Stablean> <KJ> you're gonna make refit stations?
20:35:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup
20:35:05  <Stablean> <KJ> cool
20:35:11  <Stablean> <KJ> may i join? :P
20:35:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm in the mood for insanity
20:35:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes
20:35:17  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> not this round
20:35:19  <Stablean> <KJ> ^^
20:35:21  <Stablean> <KJ> yeah
20:35:23  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my network isn't setup for it
20:35:31  <Stablean> <KJ> now i need to finish my own mess :P
20:35:34  <Stablean> <Kyler> look at where i'm building and try to find a sweets factory
20:35:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> V showed me a few tricks last night - dont claim to be good or anything
20:35:50  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> where are you K
20:35:56  <Stablean> <Supremacy> on your island :D
20:36:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> of course he is
20:36:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol
20:36:09  <Stablean> <KJ> :D
20:36:15  <Stablean> <Kyler> Gunningvill candyfloss forest
20:36:25  <Stablean> <KJ> TEH INVASION HAZ BEGON :D
20:36:39  <Stablean> <nicfer> what's up with the jam?
20:36:46  <Stablean> <Kyler> who?
20:36:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> replacing vehicles
20:37:08  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it was working perfectly before that
20:37:24  <Stablean> <Supremacy> yeah, replacing sucks ... especially when not enough room to build proper depots.. :(
20:37:27  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> kyler, i'd recommend finding a less congested area
20:37:33  <Stablean> <KJ> build more depots on your main lines
20:37:41  <Stablean> <Kyler> where do i build?
20:38:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you see the purple network kyler?
20:38:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> prunfingwell
20:38:26  <Stablean> <Kyler> hold on
20:38:26  <Stablean> <nicfer> maybe we should use 2 fast engines
20:38:28  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why don't you try building a small busy network like that as there's little room?
20:38:38  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> any news trains have dual locos
20:38:46  <Stablean> <Kyler> what city?
20:38:52  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> older are still single, but are slowly getting upgraded when i can be bothered
20:38:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i said &^^^
20:39:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> prunfingwell
20:39:19  <Stablean> <Kyler> so what do i od
20:39:43  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> start by finding a smallish empty patch with a few primaries you can link to a single industry
20:39:55  <Stablean> <nicfer> I'd make trains with 2 fast locos, ie 2 lokhi actuakky
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20:39:59  <Stablean> <Kyler> ....?
20:39:59  <Stablean> <nicfer> actually*
20:40:09  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lokhi have low HP
20:40:35  <Stablean> <nicfer> two of them
20:40:45  <Stablean> <Kyler> like what inderstroy
20:40:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> kyler, what about if i let you have mondworth area
20:41:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive built 4 stations there
20:41:08  <Stablean> <Kyler> k
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20:41:34  <Stablean> <Kyler> i see 2
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20:41:40  <Stablean> <Kyler> now 0
20:41:42  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ive removed mine
20:41:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why dont you make the best network you can there
20:42:03  <Stablean> <Kyler> so do a pasager line
20:42:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> take your clues from the purple network
20:42:08  <Stablean> <Kyler> ??
20:42:34  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> well there's no point in us doing it for you
20:42:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you'll never learn that way
20:42:54  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> there are two candfloss forests, why dont you link them to the sweet factory to start
20:43:24  <Stablean> <Kyler> look at the 2 stations is that right?
20:43:43  <Stablean> <KJ> yeah
20:43:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes you have built 2 stations
20:43:55  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> do you see where you're aiming for K
20:44:14  <Stablean> <Kyler> to connect the 2 to go to the same place
20:44:20  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yes
20:44:31  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so start with one, get that working and add the second
20:44:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> rinse and repeat until you own the map
20:44:47  <Stablean> <Kyler> is there a see throught sencery option?
20:44:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's that simple
20:44:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> rl
20:44:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ctrl x
20:45:07  <Stablean> <Kyler> thx
20:45:15  <Stablean> <Supremacy> u don't even need ctrl :)
20:45:37  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i only want trees hidden though
20:45:39  <Stablean> <Kyler> so i make one of then my main line
20:45:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> K, i'd rotate your station by linkme2 by 90 degress
20:45:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> up to you though
20:46:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's fine as is as well
20:46:33  <Stablean> <Kyler> am i doing it right?
20:46:35  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you're not linking the two pink forests together
20:46:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you're linking the pink forests to the sweet factory
20:46:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> do you see? north of lonburg
20:46:53  <Stablean> <Kyler> i will
20:47:05  <Stablean> <Kyler> oh
20:47:11  <Stablean> <Kyler> didnt see that
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20:50:01  <Stablean> <Kyler> ugg i'm stuck
20:50:25  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 8 tile long bridges only
20:50:27  <Stablean> <KJ> may i suggest a route?
20:50:37  <Stablean> <Kyler> i guess
20:51:16  <Stablean> <KJ> like this
20:51:34  <Stablean> <Kyler> tjx
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20:52:14  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> looking good Kyler
20:52:16  <Stablean> <KJ> connection probls Krunchy?
20:52:22  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> yup, on my laptop
20:52:24  <Stablean> <KJ> =[
20:52:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> can only assume that its the wifi to blame
20:52:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as my desktops been solid for 10 hours
20:52:46  <Stablean> <KJ> :P
20:52:50  <Stablean> <Kyler> i may loose internet all weekend
20:52:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> OH THE HUMANTIY
20:52:58  <Stablean> <Kyler> thx
20:53:13  <Stablean> <Kyler> :)
20:53:31  <Stablean> <Kyler> am i doing this right?
20:53:46  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nearly
20:53:54  <Stablean> <Kyler> so its wrong?
20:54:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> only a bit
20:54:06  <Stablean> <Kyler> by what
20:54:08  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just the signalling mainly
20:54:19  <Stablean> <Supremacy> remember what was said to you last game..
20:54:33  <Stablean> <Kyler> 2by2
20:54:33  <Stablean> <KJ> i prefer this
20:54:43  <Stablean> <Supremacy> 1 way signals........................
20:54:53  <Stablean> <KJ> this is also good
20:55:11  <Stablean> <Kyler> ....
20:55:13  <Stablean> <Kyler>
20:55:13  <Stablean> <Kyler>
20:55:28  <Stablean> <Kyler> so do i do 2 by 2 singles?
20:56:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dude, look at the train lines just next to here for an example of one way signalling
20:56:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you want one line for inbound
20:56:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> and one line for outbound
20:56:31  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> if signals both face the same way, how is a train to get in or out?
20:57:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> rem
20:57:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> remove the signals you have and start fresh mate
20:57:42  <Stablean> <Kyler> start all over?
20:57:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> READ WHAT WE WROTE
20:57:59  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sorry for caps
20:58:05  <Stablean> <Kyler> :( *crying in a corner*
20:58:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just copy the examples
20:58:53  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> remember, ONE track In, ONE track OUT
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20:59:58  <Stablean> <Kyler> am i doing this right?
21:00:06  <Stablean> <KJ> double the grey signals
21:00:36  <Stablean> <Kyler> the path ones
21:00:43  <Stablean> <Kyler> ?
21:00:49  <Stablean> <KJ> those arent path, but exit signals
21:01:08  <Stablean> <Kyler> is that right?
21:01:13  <Stablean> <KJ> yeah!:D
21:01:33  <Stablean> <V453000> o/
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21:01:37  <Stablean> <KJ> hi
21:01:49  <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm about to go swiming can u finish this out kj please
21:01:52  <Stablean> <Kyler> hi V
21:02:08  <Stablean> <KJ> send pass in private, ill in 30 min
21:02:31  <Stablean> <KJ> got to drink beer now :D
21:02:35  <Stablean> <KJ> ok Kyler
21:02:41  <Stablean> <Kyler> k
21:02:51  <Stablean> <KJ> brb.. cya tonight!
21:03:01  <Stablean> <Kyler> k bye
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21:07:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> where did kyler go?
21:07:57  <Stablean> <pav> falite
21:08:01  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  slod out
21:09:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> is there an autoreplace with the ablity to add a second loco?
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21:10:45  <Stablean> <pav> you can use logistic  train, it can transpoer good and later to replace it as second *
21:10:56  <Stablean> <pav> loco
21:25:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> Anson: cuningley mines
21:25:25  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> how would you do your invisible depots there
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21:34:13  <Stablean> <Anson> Kitten, don't you see that i am just building something right where you start building ??????
21:34:28  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> sorry I didn't see that
21:35:06  <Stablean> <Anson> your straight track ended right in front of my train and you had to take a turn ....
21:35:20  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> okay calm down
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21:39:06  <Stablean> <QwiXXeR> lol
21:40:52  <Stablean> <Anson> merging many tracks to few tracks while trains are running ... bad idea :-)
21:41:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> so's the opposite
21:41:24  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> upgrading L R to LL RR is a bad idea
21:41:26  <Stablean> <Anson> most of all, when a train is reversed without noticing, a path signal is stuck, etc ...
21:41:30  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just build it better in the first place
21:41:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> is my take away from this game
21:41:58  <Stablean> <Anson> build better in the first place ? ... give me more money in 1920 :-)
21:42:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i know what you mean
21:42:15  <V453000> not really just try to make it more expandable
21:42:24  <V453000> LL RR from start is ridiculous
21:42:25  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but i didnt leave enough room
21:42:37  <V453000> leave more room then :)
21:42:39  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> at hubs, etc i didnt
21:42:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ^^ thats my main take away
21:43:04  <V453000> big difference :)
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21:54:51  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> in reality, the cola wells would have been maruaded long ago by passers by
21:55:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's cheaper than petrol here
21:55:17  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> isnt that silly
21:55:45  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> it's usually a rip off
21:56:33  <Stablean> <Kittenpeach> and a toffee quarry, I would be straight in there
21:57:16  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> dam, just wasted10 mill clearing some water
22:05:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> toy trains have rubber duckies!
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22:28:03  <Stablean> <Supremacy> gotta be kidding me... new plastic thingy and batterty farm...
22:28:11  <Stablean> <KJ> oh no :P
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22:37:42  <Stablean> <nicfer> ouch, I've sent all Flanpool Bridge Forest trains to depot
22:37:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nvm
22:38:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i've just set wagons to autoreplace
22:38:12  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> 1st gen to 2nd
22:38:19  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i built a few deopts on mainline to help
22:38:42  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> think i could have built a few more
22:46:08  <Stablean> <Anson> i think that most on my net is done for now ... would have to clean some curves and similar, but not expand too much ....
22:46:27  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> there's a ton of primaries left
22:46:30  <Stablean> <Anson> most of all, i will stick to the three resources and candy, but not toys etc
22:46:50  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ah thats explains
22:47:02  <Stablean> <Supremacy> why not?
22:47:08  <Stablean> <Anson> if someone wants to work on those other resources on my island, feel free to do so :-)
22:47:27  <Stablean> <Anson> but please don't build too tight next to my tracks
22:48:09  <Stablean> <Anson> was online too long ... need to go to the kitchen first, and then to bed :-)
22:48:16  <Stablean> <Anson> CU
22:48:18  <Stablean> <KJ> :P
22:48:20  <Stablean> <KJ> byebye
22:48:23  <Stablean> <Supremacy> bye
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22:51:15  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> not sure LL RR is needed down there?
22:51:36  <Stablean> <KJ> in case of doubt: add rail!
22:51:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> \o/
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22:58:05  <Stablean> <nicfer> trolololol
22:58:05  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> NO
22:58:08  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> ahaha
22:58:11  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> motherF
22:59:41  <Stablean> <KJ> night!
22:59:44  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> gn
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23:00:50  <Stablean> <Supremacy> thats some badass deadlock :D
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23:00:50  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's about as good as i've ever seen tbh
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23:02:24  <Stablean> <Supremacy> enough for me too . bye
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23:08:29  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> will this map still be here in 12 hours?
23:08:32  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i'm going to bed
23:08:55  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yes it will
23:09:14  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it will run till at least 2050 yes?
23:09:40  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yes in till that yer
23:10:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> lol the operating profit graph is interesting
23:10:25  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep
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23:10:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> performance rating really took a hit then too
23:11:04  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> my company value is pants
23:11:04  <Stablean> <Kyler> whap happened to my comp
23:11:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> is that just because my bank balance is low
23:11:17  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you left, it went BOOM
23:11:27  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  it mite
23:11:29  <Stablean> <Kyler> i told kj to take care of it
23:11:39  <Stablean> <Kyler> because i was swiming
23:11:48  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  he was to  let
23:12:07  <Stablean> <Kyler> he went to get beer
23:12:13  <Stablean> <Kyler> and i left
23:12:27  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i saw duff in the supermarket today
23:12:31  <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm going to have to set this out
23:12:37  <Stablean> <Kyler> :(
23:12:40  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> kyler, you havn't lost much
23:12:47  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice
23:12:49  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just start again wont take you 3 mins
23:12:56  <Stablean> *** Kyler has started a new company (#10)
23:13:07  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> just try it on your own, and then we'll feedback afterwards yeah?
23:13:14  <Stablean> <Kyler> k
23:13:32  <Stablean> <Kyler> what acceps cola
23:13:54  <Stablean> <Kyler> never mind
23:13:56  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> you should learn how to find stuff like that out for yourself
23:14:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> but fizzy drink factory
23:14:21  <Stablean> <Kyler> ok :(
23:14:41  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> do you know how ?
23:15:01  <Stablean> <Kyler> i dont want to now
23:15:15  <Stablean> <Kyler> is 35 batteries good?
23:16:37  <Stablean> <Kyler> jezz there is no where to build
23:16:57  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> what about near flonninghall
23:17:00  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> the bottom of the red island
23:17:14  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> Anson: said he was done
23:17:49  <Stablean> <Kyler> i may not have internet for the weekend
23:17:50  <Stablean> <Kyler> :(
23:18:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i wonder sometimes whether you even read the answers people give you K
23:18:40  <Stablean> <Kyler> i do i'm just a fast typer and a fast reader
23:19:06  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> then you must respond some fast i miss it
23:19:13  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> *some = so
23:19:48  <Stablean> <Kyler> sorry :(
23:20:18  <Stablean> <Kyler> i'm just sittting thsi one out
23:20:34  <Stablean> *** Kyler has left the game (leaving)
23:20:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> sorry to be rude but he gets my temper up, you try and help but he just dont listen
23:23:09  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i thinke kyler is to yun to play opern ttd on line
23:23:47  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> im just going to ignore him from now - i know we're supposed to be friendly but his attitude is just awful
23:24:33  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  ok
23:24:45  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> why is your name happy?
23:24:51  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i mean its a good name
23:25:37  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep becos i am all ways happy
23:25:54  <Stablean> *** BennyCZ joined the game
23:25:58  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> :)
23:26:25  <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (general timeout)
23:26:25  <Stablean> *** nicfer has left the game (connection lost)
23:27:03  <Stablean> *** nicfer joined the game
23:27:20  <Stablean> <nicfer> internet went down
23:27:28  <Stablean> *** nicfer has joined company #3
23:28:00  <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i love your tran neterk  krunchy
23:28:14  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> nicfer has a lot to answeer for
23:28:28  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> he's fixed all my mistakes and doubled a LOT
23:28:34  <Stablean> *** BennyCZ has left the game (leaving)
23:28:48  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  yep  looks good
23:29:03  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> it's grown pretty organically too tbh
23:29:21  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> i mean it's started as single then gradually got doubled throughout
23:29:33  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> as nicfer fixes one problem i create another ;P
23:29:43  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  i see
23:35:49  <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (processing map took too long)
23:35:49  <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost)
23:42:01  <Stablean> <KrunchyAl> goodnight all
23:42:05  <Stablean> *** KrunchyAl has left the game (leaving)
23:48:33  *** BiG_MeEcH has joined #openttdcoop.stable
23:48:41  <BiG_MeEcH> hi hi
23:48:44  <BiG_MeEcH> !players
23:48:47  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1535 (Dark Blue) is nicfer, in company 3 (KrunchyAl Transport)
23:48:47  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1293 is Anson, a spectator
23:48:47  <Stablean> BiG_MeEcH: Client 1334 (Blue) is happy tran sport, in company 6 (happy tran sport Transport)
23:48:52  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  hi big meech
23:48:55  <BiG_MeEcH> hello Happy Transport
23:50:04  <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game
23:52:16  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  how thnigs big meech
23:55:06  *** KrunchyAl has quit IRC
23:57:30  <Stablean> <happy tran sport>  got to make  my tran trake beter

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