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00:12:03 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> wtf bridge length is set a bit short 00:16:54 <V453000> sure :) 00:17:49 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> 6 tiles :/ daphuq 00:18:13 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> someone didnt want a repeat of the maximus did they lol 00:18:17 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> how come they had to stop the maximus ? 00:21:47 <V453000> the bridges are generally that short 00:22:01 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> what do you mean generally 00:22:05 <V453000> and yes last game showed why 00:22:07 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> default is like 32 isnt it 00:22:24 <V453000> this server definitely isnt default 00:23:16 <V453000> so idk how is pointing at default values relevant 00:23:31 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> like someone deliberately lowered it 00:23:38 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> rather than leaving/forgettin 00:23:40 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> g 00:23:52 <V453000> sure all settings are intentional 00:26:12 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> really short bridges + no ships = :( 00:26:42 <Stablean> *** Whimplash has left the game (leaving) 00:28:00 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 00:28:00 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 00:28:24 <V453000> and big islands 00:28:26 <V453000> how terrible 00:29:02 <Stablean> <Player> Uhm, how can i not be able to build anything? 00:29:10 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> you are in spectators 00:29:28 <Stablean> <Player> Im stupid.. 00:29:34 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 00:30:40 <Anson> hallo 00:30:44 <Stablean> <Player> Hello 00:31:12 <Anson> players should select a username before starting a company.... 00:31:26 <Stablean> <Player> Yup 00:31:34 <Stablean> <Player> Luls 00:31:38 <Stablean> <Player> Im sorry 00:31:52 <Stablean> <Player> I have not played openTTD online in a while 00:33:58 <Anson> about maximus: that was not meant to build long bridges, but to test a train with max length of 32... thus i had to build s long and relatively straight track 00:34:30 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yh the bridges were just a necessity cos of the landscape 00:34:37 <Stablean> <Player> This is confusing 00:34:45 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> what made u stop it ? 00:34:52 <Anson> afaik max bridge length was twice the mapsize :-) 00:35:07 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol 00:35:36 <Anson> the loading time was insane 00:35:43 <Stablean> <Player> Is the valuta bugged? 00:36:17 <Stablean> <Player> I got suddenly like 50 million pounds in minus 00:36:35 <Anson> max trainlength 64 and max station size 12.... load/unload times were around onee full year 00:36:45 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol 00:37:07 <Stablean> <Player> Uhm.. Hacks? 00:37:10 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> does transfering/feeding in while it is loading sped it up ? 00:37:13 <Anson> player, did you buy a ship? 00:37:17 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> newgrfs 00:37:19 <Stablean> <Player> Yup.. 00:37:25 <Stablean> <Player> 3 ships 00:37:27 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> check the running costs 00:37:46 <Stablean> <Player> When i bought it stood like 315 pounds 00:38:08 <Stablean> <Player> Ok why? 00:38:20 <Stablean> <Player> Is boats illegal? 00:39:00 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> coop doesnt like them cos they are too easy 00:39:06 <Stablean> <Player> Ah 00:39:08 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> coop is all about the trains 00:39:15 <Anson> it is legal to use boats if you can afford them 00:39:23 <Stablean> <Player> And no cars either? 00:39:26 <Stablean> <Player> Or busses? 00:39:28 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> not exactly a money maker though :D 00:39:38 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> limit is 5 road vehicles 00:39:44 <Stablean> <Player> Think i saw that 00:39:44 <Stablean> <Player> Ah 00:39:59 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> for alternative to road vehicles see my stations herp and derp 00:40:05 <Stablean> <Player> So how do i quit my company? 00:40:15 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> or gerp 00:40:18 <Anson> mostly boats and planes are strongly discouraged by their running costs 00:40:30 <Stablean> <Player> I understand planes 00:40:48 <Stablean> <Player> But boats is not really a huge problem 00:41:32 <Stablean> <Player> But eh, how do i delete my company? 00:41:47 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> just leave it with boats running 00:41:53 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> it will die soon enough 00:41:56 <Stablean> <Player> Oh ok 00:42:31 <Stablean> <Player> There will soon be a local lan party in my area 00:42:57 <Stablean> <Player> There will probably be an openTTD match 00:42:57 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> do i want to buy lol 00:42:59 <Stablean> <Player> Or uh. 00:43:01 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> nope.... 00:43:08 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> i have some insider info on that one 00:44:05 <Stablean> <Player> Hmm.. Over 200 mill minus, still not bankrupt.. 00:44:52 <Stablean> <Player> Sooo, what is your interest? 00:45:10 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 00:45:18 <Stablean> <Player> Luls 00:45:41 <Anson> in the last game, not only bridge length was extreme long but also the TF costs were very low, only 5 mil 00:45:59 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> yh i noticed 00:46:13 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 00:47:02 <Stablean> *** Pedo's WhiteWan {} has started a new company (#7) 00:47:09 <Stablean> *** Pedo's WhiteWan {} joined the game 00:47:20 <Stablean> <Pedo's WhiteWan > Like my new name? 00:47:27 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol 00:47:38 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> PedoVan would be cooler 00:47:44 <Stablean> <Pedo's WhiteWan > Were going to put transport in the end but didnt fit 00:47:57 <Stablean> <Pedo's WhiteWan > True.. 00:48:16 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> is Wan a typo? 00:48:24 <Stablean> <Pedo's WhiteWan > Uh 00:48:30 <Stablean> <Pedo's WhiteWan > Misspelled 00:48:33 <Stablean> <Pedo's WhiteWan > Wait a sec 00:48:39 <Stablean> *** Pedo's WhiteWan has left the game (leaving) 00:49:34 <Stablean> *** Pedo's WhiteVans joined the game 00:49:49 <Stablean> <Pedo's WhiteVans> :D 00:59:00 <Stablean> *** Pedo's WhiteVans has left the game (leaving) 01:29:40 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 01:29:57 <Mazur> !rcon move 142 255 01:29:58 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 01:30:09 <Stablean> Mazur: ERROR: You cannot move someone to where he/she already is! 01:31:05 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 01:32:43 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#7) 01:33:05 <Mazur> !rcon move 145 255 01:33:06 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 01:33:11 <Stablean> Mazur: *** Player has joined spectators 01:34:45 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#8) 01:34:46 *** Mazur has quit IRC 01:47:55 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 02:33:43 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop.stable 02:33:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mazur 02:36:03 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 02:36:46 <Stablean> *** Diablo has started a new company (#7) 02:40:52 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 02:52:11 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 02:52:27 <Stablean> <Diablo> hi phillip 02:54:27 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9) 02:54:55 <Mazur> !rcon move 169 255 02:54:56 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 02:55:01 <Stablean> Mazur: *** Player has joined spectators 02:59:02 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 02:59:38 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9) 03:00:05 <Stablean> <Phillip> hi 03:00:08 <Mazur> !rcon move 172 255 03:00:09 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 03:00:15 <Stablean> Mazur: *** Player has joined spectators 03:00:23 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 03:01:56 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 03:02:20 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9) 03:02:23 <Mazur> !rcon move 174 255 03:02:23 <Stablean> Mazur: say_client 174 "Please change your nick, Player." 03:02:23 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 03:02:25 <Stablean> Mazur: say_client 174 "To change your nick, open console (hit the key to the left of '1')" 03:02:25 <Stablean> Mazur: say_client 174 "Then, type: name \"new-name\" (keep the quotes)" 03:02:27 <Stablean> Mazur: say_client 174 "Or type !name \"new-name\" in the chat (works here only)" 03:02:27 <Stablean> Mazur: move 174 255 03:02:29 <Stablean> Mazur: you have 16 more messages 03:04:14 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 03:06:58 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#9) 03:07:26 <Mazur> !rcon move 177 255 03:07:27 <Mazur> "Player", when you play in a company, use a proper nick, you can set one with !name yourname in the textbox 03:07:31 <Stablean> Mazur: *** Player has joined spectators 03:13:03 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 03:13:27 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 03:14:40 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 03:15:32 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 03:21:12 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 03:21:37 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 03:27:18 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 03:27:34 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 03:31:15 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 03:31:39 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 03:45:00 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #5 03:51:01 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> OMFGGGGGGGGGGGG 03:51:13 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> just built a whole wood line 03:51:20 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> around a sawmill 03:51:27 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> .....which just vanished 03:58:02 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 05:19:21 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 05:37:14 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 06:20:03 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 06:23:57 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 06:24:09 <Stablean> *** Diablo has joined company #7 06:31:31 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (processing map took too long) 06:31:31 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 06:32:07 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 06:33:39 <Stablean> *** NICE worldfreight joined the game 06:34:44 <Stablean> *** NICE worldfreight has left the game (leaving) 06:34:52 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has started a new company (#9) 06:46:52 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Absolutis 06:47:04 <Stablean> *** Absolutis has started a new company (#10) 06:59:40 <Stablean> *** Absolutis has left the game (general timeout) 07:00:12 <Stablean> *** Absolutis has left the game (connection lost) 07:00:12 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (general timeout) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** Cameron has left the game (connection lost) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** KHD19 has left the game (general timeout) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** KHD19 has left the game (connection lost) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (general timeout) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (connection lost) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (general timeout) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (general timeout) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (connection lost) 07:00:13 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:00:17 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:00:23 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum joined the game 07:01:35 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (processing map took too long) 07:01:35 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 07:01:35 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (general timeout) 07:01:35 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (connection lost) 07:01:35 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:01:35 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:01:35 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum joined the game 07:01:43 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 07:01:52 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has joined company #9 07:03:05 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (general timeout) 07:03:05 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 07:03:05 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (general timeout) 07:03:05 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (connection lost) 07:03:05 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:03:12 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:03:14 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum joined the game 07:03:27 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (processing map took too long) 07:03:27 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (connection lost) 07:04:04 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 joined the game 07:04:12 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has joined company #9 07:30:39 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> bye :D 07:30:47 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (leaving) 07:38:02 <Stablean> *** Hadronnicles has started a new company (#11) 07:38:02 <Stablean> *** Hadronnicles joined the game 07:52:21 <Stablean> *** Hadronnicles has changed his/her name to Ragin' 07:53:17 <Stablean> *** ZS joined the game 07:54:42 <Stablean> *** ZS has started a new company (#12) 08:05:22 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 08:08:21 <Stablean> *** KHD19 joined the game 08:14:16 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 08:31:57 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 08:32:00 <Stablean> <V453000> hello 08:32:14 <Stablean> <ROM5419> *cricket chirps* 08:32:57 <Stablean> <Ragin'> *chirpet cricks* 08:33:16 <Stablean> <V453000> ok Cameron can never have enough power 08:33:23 <Stablean> <V453000> 2x superstrong o_O 08:33:42 <Stablean> <ROM5419> there is NO. kill like overkill 08:44:24 <Stablean> <Ragin'> jeez, ships are cheap 08:44:42 <Stablean> <Ragin'> oh wait 08:44:44 <Stablean> <V453000> not the best idea to buy them however 08:44:47 <Stablean> <Ragin'> running costs.. 08:44:53 <Stablean> <Ragin'> lol 09:01:01 <Stablean> <ROM5419> V, why are you not joining in? 09:03:24 <Stablean> <V453000> I usually dont play here 09:03:38 <Stablean> <ROM5419> Then what's your role? God? 09:04:17 <Stablean> <V453000> not exactly 09:08:00 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:09:49 <Anson> hallo 09:10:50 <Anson> what v is and does? .... HE IS NUTS :-) 09:12:10 <Stablean> <ROM5419> I challenge ALL of you to make the longest train ever. 09:12:40 <Stablean> <ROM5419> that is, 128 cars. 09:12:45 <Anson> (author of nuts trains) 09:13:08 <Stablean> <ROM5419> NUTS is by V, not me, although I'm thinking of making a parody set 09:13:27 <Anson> i did a max length train in the last game. ... TL 64 09:13:50 <Stablean> <ROM5419> i heard someone is rereleasing the nyan train in a separate newGRF :) 09:15:02 <Anson> it took a year each to load and unload with station spread 12... thus i won't try anything like that again unless spread is increased to be larger than train length 09:15:30 <Stablean> <ROM5419> in Locomotion the max station spread doesn't affect much 09:15:48 <Stablean> <ROM5419> then again their maximum is just 16 tiles 09:16:05 <Stablean> *** Ragin' has left the game (leaving) 09:16:58 <Anson> load time is not directly affected by the spread, but by the platform length (which can't be larger than spread size) 09:17:16 <Stablean> <ROM5419> i meant the platform length. 09:17:29 <Stablean> *** Diablo joined the game 09:18:45 <V453000> parody set? lol 09:18:56 <Anson> i have to look up the formula... loading time seems to increase exponentially with a "too large" length 09:19:06 <Stablean> <ROM5419> oh, mine is gonna be like yours 09:19:52 <Stablean> <ROM5419> except with DC, AC, 3rd rail, rubber tired metros, monorails, maglevs, vactrains, SERAPHIM guideways, biological guideways and even... 09:20:19 <V453000> right 09:20:33 <Stablean> <ROM5419> although i dont have the programming skills yet though 09:20:39 <V453000> that is indeed more of a parody than anything sensible Iguess 09:20:53 <Stablean> <ROM5419> i'll start once i graduate high school in 2014 09:21:04 <V453000> there are no programming skills you just learn NML which is super easy, im not a coder either 09:21:25 <V453000> lol, high school is best time to make stuff 09:21:31 <Anson> hehe, wouldn't it be nice to have a mineral loader/unloader with drop chutes and the train advances slowly under them until filled? 09:21:34 <Stablean> <ROM5419> "programming skills" is just a statement 09:21:40 <Stablean> <ROM5419> realistic? 09:21:49 <V453000> no programming skills is just an excuse :) 09:21:54 <Stablean> <ROM5419> my model railway in the living room has that 09:22:54 <Stablean> <ROM5419> oh, im combining realistic, historical, futuristic, weird, impossible and insane trains all in one 09:23:08 <Anson> then port it to ottd :-) 09:23:11 <V453000> nuts isnt just about weird shit 09:23:24 <V453000> but mainly about how it works, train classes etc 09:23:37 <V453000> that it looks different is just the shell it is in 09:24:13 <Stablean> <ROM5419> so far i only managed to make Bombardier ART stock and stuff that looks like your S.L.U.G. on steroids 09:24:25 <V453000> lol 09:24:28 <Stablean> <ROM5419> and yes, I'm using vehicle classes 09:24:46 <Stablean> <ROM5419> but segregation in railway type, not train type 09:24:52 <Stablean> <ROM5419> more AI friendly 09:25:05 <V453000> anyone plays with AI? :D 09:25:09 <Stablean> <ROM5419> me 09:25:14 <V453000> lol 09:25:18 <V453000> that explains things 09:25:36 <Stablean> <ROM5419> i just plain worship the stupidity of the AI. 09:25:50 <Stablean> <ROM5419> to me the more insane and useless the AI gets, the better 09:26:22 <V453000> ok, that is ... interesting, to say the least 09:26:24 <Stablean> <ROM5419> considering that everyone else in my neighborhood prefer to be henehoes 09:29:02 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:29:23 <Stablean> <V453000> btw I did some counting yesterday 09:29:26 <Anson> what is the puroose in nuts, to have very powerful engines like thefirestarter (at the beginning) with more speed than the fast engine, double the power of strong engine and the same TE as the medium engine, but unable to haul cargo? 09:29:36 <Stablean> <V453000> 20 000 lines of code and slightly above 20 000 sprites in it 09:30:05 <V453000> yes exactly 09:30:32 <V453000> passenger trains are fun to be more powerful, as they get a lot faster later in the game 09:30:42 <Stablean> <ROM5419> because bullet trains should always be no.1. 09:30:53 <V453000> you want to be able to have 1 engine per train with those 09:32:06 <V453000> and also, you have a good reason to use "appropriate" trains 09:32:16 <V453000> like, you probably wont use cargo trains for passengers (although you can) 09:33:33 <Anson> ah, then you would need to make pax trains lighter to compensate for weaker firestarter, while passengers currently already are dwarves or children only (40kg each) :-) 09:34:22 <V453000> its just fine as it is I thinnk :) cargo trains could be able to load a bit more passengers but .. 09:34:46 <V453000> oh yes 40 per wagon is really low 09:34:53 <V453000> could even be like 80-100 09:34:57 <Stablean> <ROM5419> too low, actually 09:35:00 <V453000> 80 would make sense 09:35:05 <Stablean> <ROM5419> unless you love long trains 09:35:06 <Anson> 40 kg per passenger! 09:35:17 <Stablean> <V453000> that has nothing to do with long trains 09:35:27 <Stablean> <ROM5419> which is strongly discouraged in the 12 tile platform setting 09:35:38 <Stablean> <V453000> 12 tile train is long as hell 09:35:44 <Stablean> <ROM5419> whats the problem with 40 kg passenger? 09:35:50 <Stablean> <ROM5419> 12 tile is too short for me 09:36:04 <Stablean> <ROM5419> how about 64 :evil: 09:36:05 <Anson> how much do you weigh? :-) 09:36:08 <Stablean> <ROM5419> 50 09:36:16 <Stablean> <ROM5419> last year 45 09:36:18 <Stablean> <V453000> 49 without brain 09:37:55 <Anson> for RL weight limits they mostly use a factor of 75-100 per person and/or give an additional max number 09:38:04 <Stablean> <V453000> ..................... 09:38:42 <Stablean> <ROM5419> maybe in Chris Sawyer's hometown the average weight per person is 40kg? 09:39:04 <Anson> btw: real buses around here have 100+ passengers up to 120 09:39:04 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:39:20 <Stablean> <ROM5419> buses in my place can fit 200+ 09:39:30 <Stablean> <ROM5419> AND THEY'RE JUST MINI BUSES! 09:39:41 <Stablean> <ROM5419> no articulation 09:39:55 <Stablean> <ROM5419> only 350 cm long 09:40:05 <Stablean> <ROM5419> and no, my city isn't full of clowns 09:40:16 <Stablean> <ROM5419> tram line still under construction 09:40:39 <Stablean> <ROM5419> the ruling conservatives are stealing the materials though 09:40:49 <Stablean> <ROM5419> haiz... bad life 09:40:55 <Stablean> <ROM5419> i wanna move to Europe but no moneh 09:41:11 <Anson> and subway and sbahn are around 1000 (maybe 1200+ on mass events like soccer) with a full train (4 quarter trains or 8 wagons like 4 bonescrapers 09:41:31 <Stablean> <ROM5419> oh, you've never seen the trains in India and Indonesia 09:44:17 <Anson> add that to your fun trainset... 5000 pax in (or on :-) 10 wagons, with steam engine, speed 20, and breakdowns enabled 09:46:41 <Stablean> <ROM5419> no, i tried 120 gen 3 wagons full of coal pulled by a single painkiller up 10% gradients and pass 600 tiles. it took almost forever to reach the station and by then the power plant had closed and reopened 7 times already 09:46:59 <Stablean> <ROM5419> thats. madness. 09:48:23 <Anson> just seen on tv: in some asian country they have invented a radical method to get rid (literally) of people riding ON trains or the sides. .... 09:48:56 <Stablean> <ROM5419> yeah, indonesia. 09:49:02 <Stablean> <ROM5419> my neighboring country, 09:49:20 <Stablean> <ROM5419> lowered the catenary by a few mm 09:49:38 <Stablean> <ROM5419> see which slave dares to sit, hang or pray above the roof again 09:49:50 <Anson> they have metal bridge constructions around the train profile with steel chains and heavy concrete balls hanging from them!!! 09:50:32 <Stablean> <ROM5419> only prisoner trains bound for death camps have those 09:50:42 <Stablean> <ROM5419> by my guess its in Xinjiang 09:52:43 <Anson> might be indonesia... not china 09:53:17 <Anson> would have to look it up.. i recorded it 09:53:25 <Stablean> <ROM5419> speaking of which, my set which i call RUNE (ROM5419's (horribly) Unrealistic NEwGRFCollection) will have schienenzeppelins and fuhrerwagens. 09:54:02 <Anson> but you can watch it too. that series should be available at youtube too 09:55:49 <Anson> look for "Eisenbahnromantik"... until now there are 760+ halfhour episodes in 30 years :-) 09:56:53 <Anson> my father told me about that zeppelin... he lived next to that track 09:58:57 <Anson> did any of you already use a maglev? 10:00:48 <Anson> we had one (track with 3 stations only) aspart of our normal public transport system 10:04:05 <Stablean> *** Corey joined the game 10:06:06 <Stablean> <Corey> very nice looking network guys 10:06:53 <Stablean> <ROM5419> GTG guys dinner 10:07:06 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 10:07:23 <Stablean> <ROM5419> oh hi happy tran 10:07:29 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 10:07:29 <Stablean> <ROM5419> bye happy tran 10:07:39 <Stablean> <Diablo> hi happy 10:07:39 <Stablean> *** ROM5419 has left the game (leaving) 10:08:52 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #3 10:09:38 <Stablean> *** Corey has started a new company (#13) 10:09:51 <Stablean> *** Diablo has left the game (leaving) 10:14:30 *** Corey has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:20:13 <Stablean> *** Cameron joined the game 10:22:15 <Stablean> *** Cameron has joined company #4 10:25:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> cameron is sume won steling your stuf 10:26:11 <Stablean> <Cameron> yes 10:27:13 <Stablean> <Cameron> leave it 10:27:19 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 10:30:06 <Stablean> <Corey> is infrastructure sharing i the trun now? I've been playing cargodist for too long to remember... 10:31:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> no u can not sher inthis server corey 10:31:59 <V453000> neither is in the trunk 10:32:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 10:32:23 <V453000> hi 10:32:28 <Corey> too bad, seems like a good fit for a co-op game. 10:32:34 <V453000> not really 10:32:44 <V453000> best fit for coop game is just as it is, playing in one company 10:33:03 <V453000> the only thing which sharing does is prevent you from editing stuff that others built 10:33:13 <V453000> for no gain really 10:33:49 <V453000> and cargodist is ... wrong by the concept 10:34:50 <Corey> how is it wrong? I didn't mean to suggest cargodist for co-op though. 10:34:51 <V453000> if cargo distribution works right (as YACD kind of did), it means that stations are able to redistribute cargo, right? That means every single station can work as a complete junction, so it leads to nothing else than building a web of point-to-point stations 10:35:41 <V453000> which is the ultimate solution also to solve some "local" destinations and similar stuff, and also solves the automatic random additions of new connections as it handles them itself 10:35:45 <Corey> cargodist doesn't work like that at all. 10:35:57 <V453000> yes because it doesnt work as it was intended to 10:36:26 <V453000> YACD is a lot cleaner in that regard, and it only shows where the idea leads 10:37:31 <V453000> so in the end once you discover this ultimate but trivial solution how to play it, you realize that distribution of cargo actually makes the game fairly stupid 10:37:41 <Corey> to be honest, I don't think I've used YACD. I might have used cargoDEST 10:37:57 <V453000> yacd is just the latest try for cargo distribution 10:38:19 <V453000> it works great, but the idea just doesnt improve the game 10:40:11 <Corey> if we're talking about game mechanics that are stupid, then TTD is ridiculous: haul cargo from one end to another for max pay? 10:40:28 <V453000> well yes that is why openttd is absolutely not about money 10:40:47 <Corey> why does distance matter to resource buyers/sellers? It matters to pax, but not to cargo. 10:41:08 <V453000> it doesnt influence the game anyhow 10:41:16 <V453000> you just dont have to care about money 10:41:47 <V453000> after an hour of playing you can buy the world anyway 10:41:47 <Corey> I don't, but I do need to build networks that make sense. 10:42:00 <V453000> yes, networks that make sense. Ignore money 10:43:18 <V453000> if you have 1000 trains you dont really care if you make profit A or profit B 10:44:01 <Corey> No, but I want 1000 trains to be part of some larger self-defined objective. 10:44:28 <Corey> If I use cargodist to achieve that, then cargodist has value. 10:44:34 <V453000> well if your objective is anyhow related to money then it is super trivial 10:44:45 <Corey> hahah, it has nothingto do with money 10:45:10 <V453000> then I dont understand why do you say that ttd has stupid mechanics 10:46:07 <Corey> because once I feed pax from station A,B, and C onto a train and take it to station D, I have no control over where they go. 10:46:40 <Corey> I could deliver 50,000 pax to a tiny town and they would accept. 10:47:54 <Corey> pax become a resource like coal which is wrong: they have autonomy and I want my network to handle that. 10:49:26 <V453000> well that is the interesting part about passengers 10:49:44 <V453000> you have to make up a pattern/system/chaos of where which one goes 10:49:54 <V453000> not be told where who wants 10:50:23 <V453000> I can see why being told where to transport something is lazier/more convenient than that, but again reduces the possibilities 10:53:21 <Corey> If I kept using transfer orders, I could eventually get my station D pax to EF and Z, couldn't I? 10:53:41 <Stablean> <Cameron> yup 10:54:04 <V453000> sure you could 10:54:08 <Stablean> <Cameron> if you kept them transferring to the next train yes 10:54:13 <V453000> use transfer orders everywhere, brain off 10:54:22 <V453000> cargo distribution does it for you 10:54:43 <Corey> I see what you mean now. I've outsourced my decision-making to cargodist. 10:55:24 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 10:55:53 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be backe soon 10:56:04 <Corey> I don't need cargodist to go from D to Z though, right? That was my issue in the beginning. 10:56:04 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 11:12:35 <V453000> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/purchasemenu_colournumber.png how about this addition to purchase menu :p 11:13:23 <V453000> it would probably be a lot better to put those numbers in the sprites instead of the text to make it align better in | , but for now .. :) 11:18:15 <Corey> thanks for the conversation V45, I'm going AFK. 11:19:10 <Stablean> *** Corey has joined spectators 11:19:31 <Stablean> *** Corey has left the game (leaving) 11:19:47 *** Corey has left #openttdcoop.stable 11:20:46 <Stablean> *** ars joined the game 11:22:09 <Stablean> *** ars has left the game (leaving) 11:23:16 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 11:23:18 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 11:36:03 <Stablean> *** ZS has left the game (leaving) 13:19:07 <Stablean> *** jaja2939ugmf joined the game 13:20:12 <Stablean> *** jaja2939ugmf has joined company #13 13:21:38 <Stablean> *** jaja2939ugmf has left the game (leaving) 13:28:38 <Stablean> *** Sassafrass joined the game 13:33:08 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 13:35:38 *** Anson has quit IRC 13:37:00 <Stablean> <Sassafrass> have enough signals there red? 13:38:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #3 13:46:56 <Stablean> *** Sassafrass has left the game (leaving) 14:15:45 *** LoPo has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:15:48 *** Webster sets mode: +o LoPo 14:23:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (general timeout) 14:23:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 15:00:28 *** Anson has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:20:42 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:20:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mark 15:35:00 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 15:35:49 <Mark> !dl win64 15:35:49 <Stablean> Mark: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/1.2.2-RC1/openttd-1.2.2-RC1-windows-win64.zip 15:37:23 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 15:37:27 <Stablean> <Mark> hello 15:38:30 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 15:38:30 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 15:40:19 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 15:40:20 <Stablean> <Mark> hello 15:40:36 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 15:45:06 <Stablean> <Phillip> hi 15:45:58 *** Mark has quit IRC 15:45:58 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 15:52:37 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 16:01:09 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 16:01:09 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 16:02:38 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:05:17 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #5 16:06:21 *** Mark is now known as Guest2279 16:06:21 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 16:07:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:07:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:08:39 *** Guest2279 has quit IRC 16:10:33 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined spectators 16:23:48 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 16:24:05 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 16:24:53 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 16:26:11 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi btw 16:26:14 <Stablean> <Phillip> hi 16:30:42 <Stablean> <Jam35> ffs 16:37:30 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined spectators 16:37:34 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 16:46:02 <Stablean> *** Alfred joined the game 16:47:58 <Stablean> *** Alfred has started a new company (#14) 16:49:42 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:55:39 *** MrD2DG has joined #openttdcoop.stable 16:55:43 *** Mark has quit IRC 16:55:43 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 17:00:49 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:03:48 <Mazur> Corey, who is absent by now: Distance matters for cargo when you see it as time delay. 17:06:44 *** Mark has quit IRC 17:06:44 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 17:09:06 <Stablean> *** Alfred has left the game (leaving) 17:33:18 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum joined the game 17:36:13 *** Mazur has quit IRC 17:36:31 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:36:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mazur 17:37:52 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:40:03 *** Mark is now known as Guest2290 17:40:11 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 17:43:48 *** Guest2290 has quit IRC 17:46:04 <Stablean> *** Mark joined the game 17:46:08 <Stablean> <Mark> hello 17:46:19 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 17:46:21 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> hi 17:51:53 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:52:07 <Stablean> *** Phillip joined the game 17:52:16 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 17:55:15 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 17:56:20 *** Mark has quit IRC 17:56:20 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 18:06:29 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 18:09:19 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #5 18:16:19 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 18:55:59 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:38:06 <Stablean> *** Cameron has joined spectators 19:48:45 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #7 19:49:21 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> u playing 2 comps phil? 19:49:27 <Stablean> <Phillip> 3 comps 19:49:31 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> lol y 19:49:45 <Stablean> <Phillip> to maintain them by replacing aging vehicles 19:50:07 <Stablean> <Phillip> ageing*? 19:50:14 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> oh someone asked u to watch their comp 19:50:16 <Stablean> <Phillip> to replace old vehicles 19:50:19 <Stablean> <Phillip> yes 19:50:29 <Stablean> <Phillip> they allow me to 19:50:48 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #5 19:51:16 <Stablean> *** Phillip has joined company #3 19:54:29 <Stablean> <Phillip> I wonder how the Meat Grinder is going to look like. 19:54:36 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> what 19:55:40 <Stablean> <Phillip> Meat Grinder is a new maglev local train. (I looked in changelog of nuts 0.2.7 but it came out in 0.2.6). 20:10:54 <V453000> !players 20:10:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 326 is Cameron, a spectator 20:10:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 472 (White) is NonNobisSolum, in company 6 (NonNobisSolum Transport) 20:10:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 476 is Mark, a spectator 20:10:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 454 (Blue) is Jam35, in company 1 (Jam35 Transport) 20:10:57 <Stablean> V453000: Client 284 (Red) is KHD19, in company 2 (KHD25 Transport) 20:10:58 <Stablean> V453000: Client 479 (Orange) is Phillip, in company 3 (happy tran sport Transport) 20:10:59 <V453000> Mark! No way :) 20:10:59 <V453000> hhi 20:11:04 <Stablean> <Phillip> hi 20:11:22 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 20:11:53 <Stablean> <V453000> Meat Grinder is 2035 intro date ;) 20:12:07 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> what is it a train 20:12:09 <Stablean> <Phillip> yes 20:12:16 <Stablean> <Phillip> a maglev local train 20:17:58 <Stablean> *** Mazur joined the game 20:18:53 <Stablean> <Mazur> When there's something wrong, in your neighbourhood, who're ya gonna kill, trainbusters! 20:19:07 *** MrD2DG has quit IRC 20:20:40 <Stablean> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 20:24:09 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:25:20 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 20:25:20 <Stablean> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 20:26:18 <Stablean> *** Phillip has left the game (leaving) 20:26:50 *** Mark has quit IRC 20:27:30 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:34:31 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:37:24 *** [2]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 20:38:14 *** Mark is now known as Guest2309 20:38:14 *** [2]Mark is now known as Mark 20:40:49 *** Guest2309 has quit IRC 20:42:36 *** [1]Mark has quit IRC 20:47:17 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:52:53 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:10:25 *** Mark has quit IRC 21:25:36 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:29:31 <Stablean> *** Nope joined the game 21:29:38 <Stablean> *** Corey joined the game 21:30:02 <Stablean> *** Nope has started a new company (#15) 21:32:46 <Stablean> <Nope> im confused 21:33:09 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> bout what 21:33:32 <Stablean> <Nope> why im 13m in debt 21:33:38 <Stablean> <Nope> and growing 21:33:44 <Stablean> <Nope> 15m 21:33:46 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> ships? 21:33:56 <Stablean> <Nope> yeah I built a ship 21:34:07 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> look at the runnning costs..... 21:34:15 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> openttdcoop is all about the trains 21:34:19 <Stablean> <Jam35> your ship costs 134,400,000/yr to run! 21:34:22 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> ships are "too easy" 21:34:24 <Stablean> <Nope> ... 21:34:30 <Stablean> <Nope> then why even enable them :(* 21:34:37 <Stablean> <Nope> can i reset company? 21:34:59 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> just leave it let it die 21:35:05 <Stablean> <NonNobisSolum> start a new one 21:35:37 <Stablean> *** NonNobisSolum has left the game (leaving) 21:37:13 <Stablean> *** Nope has joined spectators 21:37:41 <Stablean> <Corey> wow. nope, i hear you. I just tried to raise a coastline tile 21:37:56 <Stablean> <Corey> there goes all my money in one click 21:38:06 <Stablean> <Nope> blarg 21:38:24 <Stablean> <Corey> what's the reset time on this server again? 2090? 21:38:47 <Stablean> *** Nope has left the game (leaving) 21:42:42 <V453000> reset when reset :) 21:43:42 <Stablean> *** Corey has joined spectators 21:43:54 <Stablean> *** Corey has left the game (leaving) 21:45:22 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 22:02:42 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 22:13:49 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport joined the game 22:15:45 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #3 22:16:53 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 22:16:57 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 22:28:48 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined company #3 22:40:20 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has joined spectators 22:40:32 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 22:46:51 *** chester_ has joined #openttdcoop.stable 23:23:10 *** chester_ has quit IRC 23:38:52 <Stablean> *** Petr_CZE joined the game 23:41:12 <Stablean> *** Petr_CZE has joined company #13 23:44:10 <Stablean> *** Petr_CZE has joined company #10 23:48:38 <Stablean> *** Cameron has joined company #4