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00:00:11 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 00:00:23 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 00:00:27 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 00:00:32 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 00:05:38 *** happy has quit IRC 00:06:42 <Stablean> <bon> still not sure I see what the point of double locos is but meh...may just replace it all with a single one later when I convert to monorail 00:19:54 <Stablean> *** PrO.TyCooN joined the game 00:20:39 <Stablean> *** PrO.TyCooN has left the game (leaving) 00:25:52 <Stablean> <bon> heh I hope soon I'll have a town with a population of more than 4000 00:26:02 <Stablean> <bon> just so I can be closer up there in the list with others :P 00:26:08 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 00:26:39 <Stablean> <bon> I mean.. I know I will never touch Fontown probaby but at least I can beat all the other towns a bit further down the list :P 00:26:55 <Stablean> <bon> passing Hindington should be easy ;) 00:27:00 *** happy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 00:27:07 <Stablean> <bon> but heh its just a game so :P 00:29:39 <Stablean> <bon> btw I don't know why but I think its a bit silly that I have zombies running all over the place :) 00:29:57 <Stablean> <bon> (if you're confused..look at the loco name..enough said heh heh) 00:33:20 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy so what you working on? :) 00:34:55 <Stablean> <Djanxy> working on something to eat :D 00:35:13 <Stablean> <Djanxy> otherwise connecting farms atm 00:36:39 <Stablean> <bon> heh ok 00:36:51 <Stablean> <bon> i only have food+goods to do for most part here..but going take my time on that 00:37:05 <Stablean> <bon> and I probably need to manually fund a bank so I can use the two diamond mines sitting mocking me :-s 00:37:09 <Stablean> <bon> heh 00:37:25 <happy> bon u not going to up grade your tran line or your trans or ar u happy what u got so farm 00:37:51 <Stablean> <Djanxy> decided this game to ignore everything that doesnt produce a secondary cargo 00:38:26 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...I see :) 00:38:40 <Stablean> <bon> I may eventually upgrade rails at some point too but .. thats probably more of tomorrow 00:39:34 <happy> ok 00:40:46 <Stablean> <bon> btw its funny but .. have a look at the cargo delivery chart 00:41:00 <Stablean> <bon> I'm almost evening up with andy even although I have much lower operating profits 00:41:02 <Stablean> <bon> :) 00:41:40 <happy> how your net werk going djanxy 00:41:54 <Stablean> <Djanxy> a bit slow, but ok :D 00:43:22 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...your electric loco looks too weird with the empty pantographs on roof :p 00:43:29 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 00:43:35 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hehe ye 00:43:49 <Stablean> <bon> you always could pick either two diesels...much faster as well 00:44:07 <Stablean> <bon> but thats your call 00:44:07 <Stablean> <bon> ;) 00:44:29 <Stablean> <bon> I have the Zombie ones all over my rails :P 00:44:31 <Stablean> <bon> excluding the two pax loops 00:44:37 <Stablean> <bon> heh 00:44:49 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ill upgrade to Driving Darkness :) 00:45:04 <happy> how your net werk going bon 00:45:26 <Stablean> <bon> doing ok happy. its still more or less just as you saw it before :) 00:45:37 <Stablean> <bon> unless you hadn't seen the two separate passenger routes I built after supper 00:45:47 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> i should upgrade away from steam 00:45:54 <happy> nice tran djanxy 00:45:56 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> cannot be arsed though 00:46:03 <Stablean> <bon> heh didn't I comment on that a long time ago fehler? :P 00:46:09 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> y 00:48:03 <Stablean> <bon> going afk for a while anyway 00:48:13 <Stablean> *** bon has joined spectators 00:48:20 <happy> ok 00:49:19 <happy> djanxy can u just chek if i got eney tran q 00:49:55 <Stablean> <Djanxy> looks fine 00:50:15 <happy> ok thanks 00:52:36 <happy> i hate that when u get a good net werk going and u go to bed and the nexs day its all gon 00:53:13 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> maybe we should ask V if he can switch off dissapearing industries 00:53:23 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> for the nxt map 00:53:54 <happy> y 00:56:22 <happy> is ther sum thin rone whive the disspearing industries fehlersturm 01:09:58 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 01:33:01 *** happy has quit IRC 01:53:20 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #1 01:53:24 <Stablean> <bon> back for a bit before going to bed :) 01:53:31 <Stablean> <Big Meech> no way 01:53:49 <Stablean> <bon> what? :P 01:58:43 <Stablean> <bon> and I see I got to 2nd place in town list....just exactly where I had wanted it heh 01:59:05 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 02:00:04 <Stablean> <bon> will deal with the freight aspect tomorrow due to sleeping soon tho 02:05:03 <Stablean> *** Fehlersturm has left the game (leaving) 02:06:04 <Stablean> <bon> hmm I kinda forgot...was it tractive or power that gets the train up to full speed? 02:06:58 <Stablean> <Djanxy> think it's a combo of both ? 02:07:29 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...hmm...well I'm trying to figure if I should go from MEDIUM to FAST or not... more power but less tractive :-s 02:09:08 <Stablean> <Djanxy> got my farm island set up now - here's for hoping they survive 02:09:35 <Stablean> <bon> to hell with it I'm going FAST and see what happens 02:10:05 <Stablean> <Djanxy> reckon it will be ok with double engine 02:10:15 <Stablean> <bon> hmm you know what..I think its more power than tractive then 02:10:37 <Stablean> <bon> it seem to be able to hit 100kph faster 02:11:27 <Stablean> <bon> talk about flying copper ore at 191kph :P 02:11:42 <Stablean> <bon> anyway going to bed...I hope the last two autoreplace works without me 02:11:56 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 04:34:23 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 04:34:23 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:04:53 <Stablean> *** Big Meech joined the game 05:05:01 <Stablean> <Big Meech> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 05:05:05 <Stablean> <Djanxy> woop woop 05:09:11 <BiG_MeEcH> woOOooOOOooOOOOoOOOoooooooOOoooOOooOOoOOOooOOoooOOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOoooOOooooOOOoooooO!!!!@ 05:10:31 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (general timeout) 05:10:31 <Stablean> *** Big Meech has left the game (connection lost) 05:12:39 <Sylf> !date 05:12:39 <Stablean> Sylf: 22 Jan 1993 05:15:03 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 05:15:22 <Stablean> <Sylf> better 05:15:22 <Stablean> *** Sylf joined the game 05:15:30 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 05:16:18 <Stablean> <Sylf> We have people building on top of each other again 05:16:52 <Stablean> *** Sylf has started a new company (#9) 05:18:17 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined spectators 05:19:01 <Stablean> <Djanxy> i think Fehler was transporting iron TO the mill when Red was completely jammed earlier 05:19:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> oh 05:19:45 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined company #9 05:19:57 <Stablean> <Sylf> still 05:20:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> I'd rather see the company fail than people trying to help like that 05:20:27 <Stablean> <Djanxy> i guess 05:20:51 <Stablean> <Sylf> It's better to fail once or twice and learn the lesson for good 05:20:58 <BiG_MeEcH> yo 05:21:13 <BiG_MeEcH> :D 05:21:32 <BiG_MeEcH> lots of people building trans continental too 05:21:35 <BiG_MeEcH> again 05:22:03 <Stablean> <Sylf> never fails 05:22:19 <BiG_MeEcH> We need a map with lots of islands 05:22:40 <BiG_MeEcH> maybe then they will quit 05:22:50 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 05:22:56 <Stablean> <Sylf> go ahead and try making maps like that 05:23:10 <Stablean> *** Sylf has joined spectators 05:23:15 <Stablean> <Sylf> It's not always easy 05:24:17 <Stablean> <Djanxy> btw, checked out my horsies ? 05:24:31 <Stablean> <Sylf> RV? 05:24:33 <BiG_MeEcH> neigh! 05:24:59 <Stablean> <Djanxy> at my iron drop 05:25:05 <Stablean> <Djanxy> RV ? 05:25:11 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ah 05:25:17 <Stablean> <Djanxy> road vehicle ? 05:25:17 <Stablean> <Sylf> Road vehicles 05:25:31 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah - just for the luls 05:25:50 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ore mine in walking distance of iron drop 05:26:09 <Stablean> <Sylf> Yes, I've seen only a few of those buggies on this server before... sure.... 05:26:31 <Stablean> <Djanxy> huh 05:26:34 <BiG_MeEcH> they need to render a guy with a wheelbarrow or something 05:26:40 <Stablean> <Djanxy> heh 05:28:04 <Stablean> <Sylf> wait what 05:28:12 <Stablean> <Sylf> bon is actually building a network?! 05:28:23 <BiG_MeEcH> start the game at year 0, guy would have a elephant 05:28:36 <BiG_MeEcH> I think bon has built stuff before 05:28:46 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah sylf, looks like it 05:28:52 <Stablean> <Djanxy> more or less anyways 05:28:54 <Stablean> <Sylf> He has built collections of point-to-point transports before 05:29:04 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup 05:29:47 <BiG_MeEcH> Bon will be pro soon 05:30:04 <BiG_MeEcH> then convert all rail to PUrr 05:30:10 <BiG_MeEcH> with inflation on 05:32:16 <Stablean> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 05:34:37 <BiG_MeEcH> :) 05:40:52 <BiG_MeEcH> woo! 06:16:49 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 06:16:49 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:36:54 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined company #6 06:36:54 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 06:41:15 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 06:41:15 <Stablean> *** Game paused (number of players) 06:42:00 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (general timeout) 06:42:00 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has left the game (connection lost) 06:48:58 *** Djanx has quit IRC 06:53:04 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 06:53:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 06:53:47 *** Sturmi has joined #openttdcoop.stable 07:01:55 <Stablean> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:01:56 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) joined the game 07:01:58 <Stablean> *** Ars joined the game 07:02:01 <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> Hello everyone 07:02:04 <Stablean> <Ars> рш 07:02:10 <Stablean> <Ars> yi 07:02:26 <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> никого нет. 07:02:36 <Stablean> <Ars> ye b kfly 07:02:40 <Stablean> <Ars> ну и ладн 07:02:50 <Stablean> *** Ars has started a new company (#9) 07:02:50 <Stablean> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:02:54 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) has joined company #9 07:04:22 <Stablean> <Ars> глянь табл 07:04:53 <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> там нет никаких предприятий. 07:05:01 <Stablean> <Ars> есть 07:05:11 <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> ну строй тогда. 07:09:53 <Stablean> <Ars> lj,fdbk 07:10:00 <Stablean> <Ars> добавил 07:11:22 <Stablean> <Ars> звонить? 07:16:20 <Stablean> <Ars> ок 07:30:43 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 07:45:08 <Stablean> <Ars> ты здесь? 07:55:40 <Stablean> <Ars> да 07:56:02 <Stablean> <Ars> нужен продуктовый 07:57:12 <Stablean> <iTKerry(UA)> столько всякой фигни понастроил, даже не знаю что фиксить. 07:59:18 <Stablean> <Ars> ок 08:11:52 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) has left the game (general timeout) 08:11:52 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) has left the game (connection lost) 08:16:15 <Stablean> *** Player has started a new company (#10) 08:16:22 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Berkel 08:25:28 <Stablean> *** Ars has left the game (leaving) 08:45:47 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) joined the game 08:46:43 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) has joined company #9 09:00:10 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) has left the game (leaving) 09:02:44 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 09:02:45 <Stablean> <V453000> heyo 09:02:47 <Stablean> <Berkel> hi 09:08:46 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 09:23:31 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:36:02 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop.stable 09:36:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jam35 09:40:13 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 09:48:17 <Stablean> *** Ars joined the game 09:48:29 <Stablean> *** Ars has joined spectators 09:48:45 <Stablean> <Ars> hi Jam35 09:48:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 09:49:15 <Stablean> *** Ars has joined company #9 10:04:36 <Stablean> *** Ars has left the game (leaving) 10:05:50 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 10:05:52 <Stablean> <V453000> wat up 10:05:59 <Stablean> <Jam35> idk 10:06:01 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 10:12:42 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 10:12:54 <Stablean> <bon> geeze was someone asleep at the keyboard again? :-\ 10:12:58 <Stablean> <bon> oh well heh :) 10:13:36 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:14:40 <Stablean> <bon> berkel seriously did you really have to build like that? I needed to be able to add pickup stations and now I can't 10:14:55 <Stablean> <Berkel> where? 10:15:49 <Stablean> <bon> water tower no.1 .. papermill no.1 ... steelmill no.1 10:18:23 <Stablean> <bon> at least thankfully you're online now so it'll be easy foro me to point out where my platforms was supposed to be years ago 10:18:58 <Stablean> <Berkel> i just try to find an alternative route, but its complicated due to steep hils / cliffs / bridges 10:20:40 <Stablean> <bon> berkel...well...I can't build underground so that means the pickup platforms still have to go somewhere within catchment distance and still be able to hook onto the existing rails 10:20:43 <Stablean> <bon> know what I'm saying? 10:21:15 <Stablean> <Berkel> ... 10:21:31 <Stablean> <Berkel> reedit your tracks / and me too? 10:21:41 <Stablean> <Berkel> just need 2 lines to go south to the mine 10:21:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> If you remove the Faborough line completely you can have some copper at, say, New Dronfingburg 10:21:49 <Stablean> <Jam35> ? 10:22:08 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm yeah thats the only one single line I'm a little worried about 10:22:14 <Stablean> <bon> the others can stay as they are..for now 10:23:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> Berkel: some copper !here instead? 10:23:14 <Stablean> <Jam35> and remove that line 10:23:36 <Stablean> <Jam35> (signed this) 10:23:46 <Stablean> <bon> btw hi jam35...how doing? 10:23:56 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi good thanks how's you? 10:24:02 <Stablean> <bon> me finally catching up with my delayed freight upgrade plan... monorail + some new food+good pickup stations etc 10:24:08 <Stablean> <bon> then just minor tweakings .. I hope! 10:24:10 <Stablean> <bon> :) 10:24:33 <Stablean> <bon> may have to rebuild my odd papermill station so I can get the new platforms in tho - we wil have to see :p 10:25:15 <Stablean> <Jam35> okay ... :) 10:25:47 <Jam35> !players 10:25:50 <Stablean> Jam35: Client 116 (White) is Jam35, in company 7 (Jam35 Transport) 10:25:50 <Stablean> Jam35: Client 108 (Yellow) is Berkel, in company 10 (Berk´s small Goods) 10:25:50 <Stablean> Jam35: Client 122 (Brown) is bon, in company 1 (Just Nutty) 10:27:21 <Stablean> <Berkel> enjoy the space :D 10:28:44 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 10:28:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> copper is there 10:29:02 <Stablean> <Jam35> you can thank happy later :p 10:29:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> (his money) 10:29:27 <Stablean> <bon> haha... I doubt he will ever notice it anyway ;) 10:30:16 <Stablean> *** travstr joined the game 10:30:21 <Stablean> <travstr> is this a new map? 10:30:31 <Stablean> <Berkel> seems to be ^^ 10:30:38 <Stablean> <travstr> and it's already full V.v 10:30:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> not really 10:30:47 <Stablean> <Jam35> 1920 start 10:31:09 <Stablean> <travstr> ....when did it get reset tho 10:31:24 <Stablean> <Berkel> last one was resetted 23xx ^^ 10:31:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> Berkel/Bon I meant remove that whole line but if you are both happy now? 10:32:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> too many crossings imo 10:32:49 <Stablean> <Jam35> wha? 10:33:03 <Stablean> <travstr> oh nothing lol 10:33:13 <Stablean> <travstr> there's a sign here that says '!jam' 10:33:19 <Stablean> <travstr> so i wondered if it does anything 10:33:29 <Stablean> <travstr> it does not, 10:35:07 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 10:40:08 <Stablean> <Berkel> Why is inflation enabled this time? I thought its off usually? 10:40:42 <Stablean> <Jam35> sometimes on sometimes off 10:40:48 <Stablean> <bon> btw I'm just asking...rather than keeping talking back n forth about finally me getting the station to fit in .. I'll just make this offer... 10:41:12 <Stablean> <bon> berkel..if I paid you much more than what 10+ years of copper profit would be from that one mine would you be willing to pull up the line? 10:41:19 <Stablean> <bon> ^_^ 10:41:26 <Stablean> <Jam35> I already asked that... 10:41:33 <Stablean> <bon> oh heh sorry :) 10:41:36 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm confused about who's lines are who's 10:41:46 <Stablean> <Berkel> ??? 10:41:49 <Stablean> <travstr> berkel do you have these's 'copper pick' lines? 10:41:59 <Stablean> <Berkel> you need the forest at faborough? 10:42:03 <Stablean> <travstr> cause the yellow colours are hard to work out 10:42:13 <Stablean> <Berkel> or why should i reset the copper line there? 10:42:16 <Stablean> <bon> berkel...no but I need the station space a bit further up the line 10:42:26 <Stablean> <bon> so I'll pay you the equival value 10:42:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> because it crosses bon's line many times 10:42:58 <Stablean> <travstr> oh i see 10:43:04 <Stablean> *** travstr has started a new company (#11) 10:44:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> And Berkel (if you read the chat) I gave you a replacement copper @ New Dronfingburg 10:45:19 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop.stable 10:45:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Maraxus 10:45:28 <Stablean> <Berkel> ahh, now i got it *g*. you placed a new copper mine. THANKS :D 10:45:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> you started to remove the line... 10:45:55 <Stablean> <Jam35> but moved it over 10:45:57 <Stablean> <travstr> what's the station spread limit? 10:46:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> Advanced settings -> stations 10:46:26 <Stablean> <Jam35> 12 btw 10:46:28 <Stablean> <travstr> cba... 10:46:50 <Stablean> <travstr> the advanced settings is long 10:46:56 <Stablean> <Jam35> two clicks 10:47:02 <Stablean> <travstr> two clicks too many 10:47:32 <Stablean> <bon> and heres the promised $ for the 'lost' copper :) 10:47:35 <Stablean> <Jam35> (jeez) 10:47:49 <Stablean> <bon> jam35...I know I noticed it too :-s 10:48:29 <Stablean> <Jam35> 2 clicks?? bone idle more like :P 10:48:47 <Stablean> <travstr> kay bye 10:48:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> :( 10:49:41 <Stablean> <Jam35> asking the question in chat takes longer? :) 10:49:47 <Stablean> <bon> heh true :) 10:50:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> but don't get upset ... :) 10:50:21 <Stablean> <travstr> who are you talking to lol 10:50:28 <Stablean> <Jam35> ffs 10:50:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> YOU! :) 10:50:48 <Stablean> <travstr> oh i'm confused what i the topic of discussion 10:50:51 <Stablean> <travstr> is** 10:51:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> press ` key... 10:51:19 <Stablean> <travstr> cba 10:51:33 <Stablean> <travstr> one button press too many 10:51:33 <Stablean> <bon> jam35 I think we have someone who is lazy in a backward way 10:51:44 <Stablean> <bon> he's happy to keep typing and typing but refuse to press a single key eh? 10:51:58 <Stablean> <travstr> lol I pressed it ages ago 10:52:09 <Stablean> <travstr> but I didn't need to cause i read the chat 10:52:11 <Stablean> <Jam35> or just on a wind up :p 10:52:21 <Stablean> <Berkel> so, bon. you have your space 10:53:00 <Stablean> <Jam35> ty Berkel (but you missed some bridges) 10:53:02 <Stablean> <bon> good..just working on some trains first then will do a major rebuild for new steel/goods platforms in the area :) 10:53:16 <Stablean> <Jam35> nice 1 10:54:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> Bon now all your expansion is good to go 10:55:38 <Stablean> <bon> thanks...I'll let you know if theres somehow a 2nd problem but that seem really unlikely with my one major area being clear atm :) 10:56:08 <Stablean> <travstr> everything is so damn expensive 10:56:16 <Stablean> <travstr> even flattening a simple hill is 100k lmaooo 10:56:27 <Stablean> <bon> why can't you just go over it? 10:56:35 <Stablean> <travstr> diagonal tracks 10:56:45 <Stablean> <bon> ehh...so just find a S curve? :) 10:56:55 <Stablean> <travstr> i did in the end 10:57:13 <Stablean> <bon> yeah its not like monorails care for using a lot of curves 10:57:17 <Stablean> <bon> as long as they're not too sharp 10:57:33 <Stablean> <travstr> how do you know i'm using monorails :o 10:57:37 <Stablean> <travstr> or are you guessing 10:57:48 <Stablean> <bon> its obvious ... single fat metal line :P 10:57:59 <Stablean> <bon> heh 10:58:29 <Stablean> <travstr> LOL bridges are 33mil 10:58:35 <Stablean> <travstr> what the hell is this 10:58:41 <Stablean> <bon> travstr...you're trying to build on water thats why 10:58:51 <Stablean> <bon> move to a more land tile and you'll see it costs just pennies 10:59:09 <Stablean> <travstr> not really 'pennies' but ok 10:59:20 <Stablean> <bon> heh well.. compared to that price you quoted I guess :) 10:59:30 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i'm using the bridge tool soooo what is the issue that makes it cost millions of pounds 10:59:56 <Stablean> <bon> travstr....building on water tiles = $$$ .. building the bridge on dry land = .$ 10:59:59 <Stablean> <Berkel> if the tile contains water -> costs are up 11:00:01 <Stablean> <bon> thats the only way I can sum it up atm 11:03:40 <Stablean> <travstr> is a lower loading speed better or worse? 11:03:47 <Stablean> <bon> travstr...depending on the speed to match 11:04:00 *** happy has joined #openttdcoop.stable 11:04:17 <Stablean> <travstr> h ok 11:04:19 <Stablean> <bon> eg 210kph with loading 2 may be slower on average than 191kph with loading 12 for example ... I'm not too sure exactly about the math tho 11:04:29 <Stablean> <travstr> oh 11:04:29 <Stablean> <bon> so don't take it as it is :) 11:04:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> if the train has low loading speed it has another advantage in some way 11:04:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> not necessarily just speed 11:04:57 <Stablean> <bon> mmm yeah true.... long distance may also factor in too 11:05:54 <Stablean> *** Maraxus joined the game 11:06:45 <Stablean> <Jam35> M 11:06:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) 11:06:54 <Stablean> <Berkel> whats the use of those different track colors? just for fun? 11:07:00 <Stablean> <Maraxus> hi :) 11:07:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> if you like, or marking certain tracks, whatever you want 11:08:25 <Stablean> <bon> I'm using it also only because it allows both rail and monorail vehicles on at the same time 11:08:32 <Stablean> <bon> makes for so much easier upgrading ;) 11:08:54 <Stablean> <travstr> well you could use rail for now then upgrade to universal later 11:09:00 <Stablean> <Jam35> yes that needed mentioning, they are universal rail 11:09:04 <Stablean> <bon> universal looks weird with a mono train 11:09:54 <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder how much tunnels cost :/// 11:10:04 <Stablean> <travstr> a lot. 11:10:06 <Stablean> <bon> hold down shift key and find out :P 11:10:08 <Stablean> <travstr> i did 11:10:14 <Stablean> <travstr> 131k for like 6 tiles 11:10:16 <Stablean> <Jam35> not that much really 11:10:16 <Stablean> <bon> make sure both ends are on a flat tile 11:10:23 <Stablean> <bon> 131? sounds like you're not looking again :) 11:10:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> as long as no tf is used 11:10:50 <Stablean> <travstr> do you want a screenshot? 11:11:00 <Stablean> <travstr> 131,932 for five tiles 11:11:07 <Stablean> <bon> what did I already told you? 11:11:11 <Stablean> <bon> and so did jam35 too 11:11:21 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not flattening this land 11:11:25 <Stablean> <travstr> because it costs too much 11:11:27 <Stablean> <Jam35> what currency? 11:11:34 <Stablean> <travstr> £ 11:11:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> 23k here 11:11:49 <Stablean> <Jam35> 5 tiles 11:11:56 <Stablean> <travstr> mhm that's with flat land tho 11:12:03 <Stablean> <travstr> however i have found a place with flat land 11:12:09 <Stablean> <travstr> and it costs 24k 11:12:43 <Stablean> <Berkel> How´s things on your small petite island? @jam :D 11:12:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> quiet 11:13:16 <Stablean> <Jam35> 24k would be 6 tiles? 11:13:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> 29k 11:13:48 <Stablean> <travstr> length: 5 11:13:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> farm land? 11:14:00 <Stablean> <travstr> no 11:14:03 <Stablean> <Jam35> is more 11:14:09 <Stablean> <Jam35> put a sign 11:14:55 <Stablean> <travstr> i did 11:15:21 <Stablean> <Jam35> monorail yes 24k 11:15:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> go over 11:15:33 <Stablean> <travstr> i know that's why i said it 11:15:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> :P 11:15:39 <Stablean> <travstr> i dont actually want to make a tunnel ther ethough 11:15:42 <Stablean> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 11:15:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> it's not much 11:15:48 <Stablean> <travstr> the tunnel i want is above the line 11:16:02 <Stablean> <travstr> i know it's not much i can afford it, the one i want to make isn't there >.> 11:18:38 <Stablean> <travstr> i assume the 'CLEAN purr' is universal too 11:18:44 <Stablean> <travstr> that looks better for monorails 11:18:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> yes 11:18:58 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 11:19:06 <Stablean> <bon> any pur is :P I use it as "this is not on any assigned routes" 11:19:20 <Stablean> <bon> green is raw ... blue is finished .. yellow is mix of both trains 11:19:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> careful though it is expensive 11:19:25 <Stablean> <travstr> i know that 11:19:28 <Stablean> <bon> (thats my take anyway) 11:19:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi HT 11:19:45 <Stablean> <bon> hi happy 11:19:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 11:19:59 <Stablean> <bon> just in middle of upgrading so much .. plus I still have to build new stations too :-s 11:20:09 <Stablean> <bon> thankful for doing a direct rail>monorail train swap ;) 11:20:33 <Stablean> <bon> kinda funny to have two very different speeds clash together but ah well :) 11:20:36 <Stablean> <bon> better than a total shutdown ;) 11:20:38 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 11:22:54 *** Sturmi has quit IRC 11:25:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how things going 11:26:09 <Stablean> <bon> still rather slow...too many old diesels left :P 11:26:09 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe 11:26:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> he he 11:27:22 <Stablean> <bon> at least removing the 2nd loco managed to upper the total train capacity a bit :) 11:27:36 <Stablean> <bon> plus extra speed... so mm yeah good for low traffic ratio :) 11:34:47 <Stablean> <bon> at least theres not many diesels left now :) 11:35:19 <Stablean> <travstr> how you gonna have 128 trains and not group a single one lolll 11:36:58 <Stablean> <bon> who has 128? 11:37:04 <Stablean> <travstr> tra 11:37:07 <Stablean> <travstr> tran 11:37:17 <Stablean> <bon> ehhh let him be :) 11:37:27 <Stablean> <travstr> doesn't bother me 11:37:33 <Stablean> <travstr> it just has to be confusing :o 11:37:39 <Stablean> <bon> I only do it because of autoreplace 11:38:09 <Stablean> <bon> be back in a few minutes tho 11:38:15 <Stablean> *** bon has joined spectators 11:48:01 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 12:00:29 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #1 12:03:51 <Stablean> <travstr> l0l 12:03:57 <Stablean> <bon> ? 12:04:07 <Stablean> <travstr> ? 12:04:14 <Stablean> <bon> whats 'l0l'? 12:04:18 <Stablean> <travstr> u 12:04:32 <Stablean> <bon> ? 12:04:38 <Stablean> <travstr> ? 12:04:49 <Stablean> <bon> what is 'l0l' again? 12:05:58 <Stablean> *** bon has joined spectators 12:06:02 <Stablean> *** Berkel has joined spectators 12:07:11 <Stablean> *** mickdermack joined the game 12:10:59 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 12:11:19 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (leaving) 12:13:36 <Stablean> *** champy thailand joined the game 12:15:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> travstr see my sign 12:15:48 <Stablean> <travstr> 'this' 12:15:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar u going to doo sume trans whive that forest 12:16:05 <Stablean> <travstr> yes but i have nearly no money 12:16:16 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 12:16:20 <Stablean> <travstr> so i'm trying to do multiple things to get money to do that 12:16:26 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm doing other things first 12:16:34 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how much doo u need 12:17:04 <Stablean> <travstr> about 100k more, should take a year to get or so 12:20:44 <Stablean> *** champy thailand has left the game (leaving) 12:21:32 <Stablean> <travstr> oh god i'm so in debt 12:21:38 <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo 12:24:15 *** Jam35 sets mode: +v Jam35 12:24:20 *** Jam35 sets mode: -v Jam35 12:27:02 <Stablean> *** Insspb joined the game 12:27:58 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> how your net werk going jam 12:29:06 * BiG_MeEcH slaps Jam35 around a bit with a large fishbot 12:29:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi big meech how things 12:29:45 * BiG_MeEcH slaps happy around a bit with a large fishbot 12:30:20 <Stablean> *** Insspb has left the game (connection lost) 12:30:53 * Jam35 slaps BiG_MeEcH around a bit with a large fishbot 12:30:58 <Jam35> stoppit 12:31:05 * BiG_MeEcH slaps Jam35 around a bit with a large fishbot 12:31:05 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm at max loan oops 12:31:07 <Stablean> <travstr> cry 12:31:09 <BiG_MeEcH> no :P 12:38:29 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #1 12:38:34 <Stablean> <bon> back for short time again 12:38:38 <BiG_MeEcH> yo bon! 12:38:41 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb bon 12:38:49 <BiG_MeEcH> I am good Happy Transport :D 12:39:01 <BiG_MeEcH> but seeya for now 12:39:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 12:39:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> woo toffel has a tran jam 12:41:00 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop.stable 12:41:10 <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooooo 12:41:44 <Stablean> <bon> hm still a few diesels left but I need to afk again..oh well will let it gum up for a bit longer :-s 12:41:54 <Stablean> *** bon has joined spectators 12:44:13 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 12:45:10 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 12:48:54 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 12:49:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 12:49:34 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 12:52:54 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 12:53:54 <Stablean> <Jam35> happy you should have upgraded to 'reckoning' 12:54:10 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 12:54:22 <Stablean> <Jam35> not superbeast :) 12:54:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> maybe? 12:54:55 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 13:01:04 <Stablean> *** travstr has joined spectators 13:01:08 <Stablean> *** travstr has joined company #11 13:01:17 <Stablean> <travstr> oops 13:01:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i mite go a tran q but give it time i am up grad my trans 13:02:01 <Stablean> <travstr> tran q 13:02:07 <Stablean> <travstr> what are you talking again 13:02:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 13:02:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> happy they are all heading to that same depot because the station is roro 13:03:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar i see 13:03:14 <Stablean> <Jam35> depot after station only really works with terminus 13:03:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> or put a reverser after station 13:03:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem ok 13:03:56 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 13:04:37 <Stablean> <Jam35> there 13:04:41 <Stablean> <travstr> omg this passenger train has saved my company 13:04:47 <Stablean> <travstr> holy crap da monies 13:04:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar i see like that thanks 13:04:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> now they cant see it til after the reverser 13:04:57 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 13:05:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 13:05:43 <Stablean> <travstr> ok happy i'm going to do something with the forest now 13:05:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> lol now they all turn around at Wrafingburg 13:06:18 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 13:11:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> well you have a lot of roro stations 13:11:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> a 13:12:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar thats not good 13:12:26 <Stablean> <Jam35> a station at one end of the route should really be terminus 13:12:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 13:12:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> or have a reverser 13:12:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 13:13:02 <Stablean> <travstr> what is a reverser 13:13:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> or you could build some service centre that will probably jam at replacements 13:13:47 <Stablean> <travstr> oh i think i see a 'reverser' 13:14:45 <Stablean> <travstr> yep 13:14:49 <Stablean> <travstr> i was looking at that 13:14:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) 13:14:54 <Stablean> <travstr> ty 13:15:12 <Stablean> <travstr> whoa 13:15:22 <Stablean> <Jam35> makes the depot after 'invisible' to the pathfinder 13:15:46 <Stablean> <Jam35> until the section right before 13:15:52 <Stablean> <travstr> ohhhhhh 13:16:06 <Stablean> <Jam35> makes replacing trains 'nicer' 13:16:48 <Stablean> <travstr> ohhhhh okay 13:17:03 <Stablean> <travstr> so the trains won't realise there's a depot until it's right in their face 13:17:07 <Stablean> <travstr> smart. 13:17:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> exactly then all trains don't head there and jam the network 13:17:39 <Stablean> <travstr> i should use that more often v.v 13:17:49 <Stablean> <travstr> that's actually very smart hm 13:18:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> it works nice 13:18:27 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem is overflow tern on 13:18:45 <Stablean> <Jam35> and place them after a terminus station 13:18:55 <Stablean> <Jam35> beacuse they cant be seen there either 13:19:11 <Stablean> <Jam35> where are you looking happy? 13:19:33 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> at the goods pike up 13:19:35 <Stablean> <travstr> ah okay 13:20:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> it's on 13:21:28 <Stablean> <Jam35> what goods pickup? Prarnville North? 13:21:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes see my sign 13:22:06 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> the overflo dus not werk 13:22:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> two way signals would help 13:22:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ok 13:22:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) 13:23:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> should work now 13:23:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 13:23:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 13:23:24 <Stablean> <Jam35> k 13:23:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> let's see 13:23:40 <Stablean> <travstr> these train names are funny. 13:23:48 <Stablean> <travstr> and the 'odd' train class is very interesting. 13:24:14 <Stablean> <travstr> omg this train is making nearly 900k a year 13:24:16 <Stablean> <travstr> GET MONEY 13:24:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> heem nop stil dont werk 13:25:17 <Stablean> <bon> back now and ugh...is the game on a shared server? because it seem like its starting that random lag again :-s 13:25:55 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar ther we go 13:26:41 <Stablean> <Jam35> yeah idk dumbass trains 13:26:44 <Stablean> <bon> or noone sure? 13:26:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> no lag here 13:27:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> normally i'm first to suffer 13:27:31 <Stablean> <travstr> little bit laggy. 13:27:35 <Stablean> <Jam35> must be your connection 13:27:46 <Stablean> <travstr> *tears 13:27:48 <Stablean> <bon> travstr...mm you too 13:27:56 <Stablean> *** bon has joined company #1 13:28:04 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah it's stuttery 13:28:10 <Stablean> <travstr> but it's not too bad 13:28:28 <Stablean> <bon> travstr...well I had to quit on one game because it almost was like sitting at oct 2 .. leap to oct 5 .. .and repeat 13:28:34 <Stablean> <bon> almost unuseable :| 13:28:48 <Stablean> <travstr> lol 13:28:50 <Stablean> <bon> but meh lets see if this server computer isn't....borked :) 13:29:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 13:29:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 13:29:44 <Stablean> <travstr> lol wat 13:29:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> took too long to join 13:30:08 <Stablean> <Jam35> ... 13:30:26 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> y dus berkel doo he net werk net nexs to me 13:30:32 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 13:30:33 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 13:30:36 <Stablean> <travstr> sigh 13:31:27 <Stablean> <Jam35> idk 13:31:35 <Stablean> <Jam35> already had him remove some stuff 13:31:36 <Stablean> *** Djanxy joined the game 13:31:40 <Stablean> <travstr> yay 13:31:43 <Stablean> <travstr> more people 13:31:49 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 13:31:51 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi 13:31:52 *** Djanx has joined #openttdcoop.stable 13:31:53 <Stablean> <Jam35> that's not too bad near you 13:31:53 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 13:31:55 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 13:31:57 <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo 13:32:19 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined company #6 13:33:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i need to ade won mor forest so i can doo sume papper trans 13:33:30 <Stablean> <mickdermack> happy, are you still testing the overflow, or why are there 2 trains stopped at prarnville? 13:33:48 <Stablean> <mickdermack> north* 13:33:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> oops :) ty 13:34:12 <Stablean> <mickdermack> np 13:34:30 <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh no, my horsies cant keep up anymore 13:34:48 <Stablean> <travstr> i feel like the overflow isn't working as intended 13:35:06 <Stablean> <travstr> but never mind. 13:35:17 <Stablean> <bon> travstr...lets just hope the server cures itself otherwise...yeah we may have to quit early 13:35:23 <Stablean> <bon> lets just see what happens in a few more years 13:35:38 <Stablean> <travstr> but i was just getting started :( 13:35:40 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam can u tunnel this 13:35:40 <Stablean> <travstr> wah wah wah 13:35:55 <Stablean> <Djanxy> cures itself of what ? 13:36:05 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> or i can go under it 13:36:15 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...the lag rips....this is the 2nd map to start having it 13:36:22 <Stablean> <Jam35> k 2 minutes 13:36:28 <Stablean> <Djanxy> aha 13:40:42 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 13:42:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks jam 13:42:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> yw 13:43:10 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined spectators 13:43:12 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 13:43:30 <Stablean> <travstr> ruh roh my first jam 13:43:32 <Stablean> <travstr> lol 13:43:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (processing map took too long) 13:43:38 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 13:57:14 <Stablean> <bon> hmm is there only two generations of MEDIUM monorail locos? 13:57:40 <Stablean> <bon> and btw the lags seem to have gone away completely....so ehhh 13:58:42 <Stablean> <bon> just wondering if I 13:58:48 <Stablean> <Jam35> 4 x mono medium 13:58:50 <Stablean> <bon> I'm stuck wit Gravastar or not* 13:58:54 <Stablean> <bon> 4....ah ok..thanks 13:59:04 <Stablean> <bon> so at least I can expect some speed bump later then...cheers 13:59:30 <Stablean> <bon> I find the Timewave Zero electrics a bit funny to look at...not sure why 13:59:36 <Stablean> <bon> must be their purple-ish roof :) 13:59:51 <Stablean> <bon> at least compared to the earlier trainset they're only 10kph slower but carries a LOT more :) 14:00:02 <Stablean> <bon> 390 vs 576 and I didn't change the consist makeup 14:00:08 <Stablean> <bon> :p 14:00:51 <Stablean> <travstr> speaking of gravastar i'd better upgrade 14:00:53 <Stablean> <travstr> hmmm 14:01:00 <Stablean> <travstr> *getting money* 14:01:06 <Stablean> <bon> oh right I forgot I still have these crappy smelly diesels >_< 14:02:36 <Stablean> <bon> going replace with electric for now..can't be bothered trying to upgrade them manually atm 14:03:02 <Stablean> <travstr> what do you mean 14:03:09 <Stablean> <travstr> oh replace the rails? 14:03:19 <Stablean> <bon> no...the train themself 14:03:34 <Stablean> <travstr> no but why not upgrade straight to mono then 14:03:36 <Stablean> <bon> they pass by the depot fully loaded...not a good time to send them into depot like that 14:03:42 <Stablean> <travstr> unless you're not using universal 14:03:48 <Stablean> <travstr> o 14:03:54 <Stablean> <bon> am more busy with other things atm :) 14:05:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> Jam35 doo u need sume muney 14:05:14 <Stablean> <Jam35> i'm fine ty 14:05:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 14:05:25 <Stablean> <bon> can I say he took some before? :P hehehehe sorry ;) 14:05:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> I helped bon with your money :) 14:05:57 <Stablean> <bon> more like berk...not me :) 14:06:03 <Stablean> <bon> but mm 14:06:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> well both i suppose 14:06:13 <Stablean> <bon> aye 14:06:21 <Stablean> <bon> I got one more new station in..still need to work the 2nd one soon 14:06:47 <Stablean> <bon> and I finally don't have rails anywhere anymore :) 14:07:37 <Stablean> <bon> (if anyone is wondering.. green = raw .. blue = finished goods .. red = express/passenger .. gray = "unused" in a manner speaking 14:07:52 <Stablean> <bon> and 'yellow' is just when both green+blue get mixed together 14:08:02 <Stablean> <bon> talk about me and my funny color coding routes :P 14:09:08 <Stablean> <bon> I may try play with one WET route soon tho..just for fun :) 14:09:26 <Stablean> <travstr> i was wondering what hte point of them was actually 14:09:28 <Stablean> <travstr> lol 14:09:35 <Stablean> <bon> heh? :) 14:09:41 <Stablean> <travstr> wet rails 14:09:55 <Stablean> <bon> they're for the matching vehicles...these can't really run on anything else to put it aptly 14:10:17 <Stablean> <travstr> ok 14:10:23 <Stablean> <bon> they're the ones that look like actual boats in the buy list btw 14:10:31 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i checked it out earlier 14:10:37 <Stablean> <bon> np :) 14:10:47 <Stablean> <travstr> not yeah why anyone would use them for anything legit but yeah 14:10:49 <Stablean> <travstr> so slow lol 14:10:55 <Stablean> <bon> not really 14:11:03 <Stablean> <travstr> 120 kmh 14:11:15 <Stablean> <travstr> oh wait 14:11:20 <Stablean> <bon> 1. they have very quick loading time for long consists 2. they don't care for steep routes even with 90 degree corners in middle 3. cheap 4. etc 14:11:22 <Stablean> <travstr> can you use locks and stuff? 14:11:34 <Stablean> <travstr> like do they go over water? 14:11:37 <Stablean> <travstr> actual water 14:11:51 <Stablean> <bon> ummm why do you think its in the TRAIN list..not BOAT list 14:11:53 <Stablean> <bon> heh 14:12:03 <Stablean> <travstr> god i was just asking >.> 14:12:07 <Stablean> <travstr> they are boats after all 14:12:17 <Stablean> <bon> boats maybe but not normal boats :) 14:12:27 <Stablean> <bon> if you want wait a bit I'll build a route in a moment .. and you can see :) 14:22:51 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.stable 14:22:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 14:25:53 <Stablean> *** robinho29 has started a new company (#12) 14:25:55 <Stablean> *** robinho29 joined the game 14:27:28 <Stablean> *** robinho29 has left the game (leaving) 14:28:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be back in 10,imts 14:28:07 <Stablean> <bon> ok 14:28:13 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 14:28:35 <Stablean> <travstr> i have returned from my slumber 14:29:12 <Stablean> <travstr> lmao 14:33:11 <Stablean> <travstr> i think berk has a jam 14:33:15 <Stablean> <travstr> cause his profits went DOWN 14:33:43 <Stablean> <bon> nope 14:33:49 <Stablean> <bon> just lack of city catchment 14:33:56 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i'm looking around and there is no 14:33:58 <Stablean> <travstr> jam 14:34:13 <Stablean> <travstr> how unexciting 14:34:15 <Stablean> <travstr> :/ 14:35:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am back 14:35:21 <Stablean> <travstr> welcome back. 14:35:28 <Stablean> <travstr> to the land of fun and games. 14:36:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 14:37:44 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 14:37:49 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 14:38:53 <Stablean> <travstr> jesus when will this monorail medium upgrade come out .______. 14:40:01 <Stablean> <Jam35> ~2030 14:40:07 <Stablean> <Jam35> so soon 14:40:09 <Stablean> <travstr> so about now 14:40:11 <Stablean> <travstr> hm ok 14:40:15 <Stablean> <bon> you mean the one i got offered to test drive? :P 14:40:21 <Stablean> <travstr> >.> 14:40:23 <Stablean> <Jam35> aha 14:41:30 <Stablean> <travstr> oh lol everyone's using the universal wagons :/ 14:41:41 <Stablean> <bon> umm what you asking? 14:42:03 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not asking anything i just noticed that everyone aside from me is using the universal train wagons 14:42:05 <Stablean> <travstr> :p 14:42:12 <Stablean> <travstr> i feel like i'm missing out. 14:43:22 <Stablean> <bon> hmm jam can I ask you a quick favour? 14:47:17 <Stablean> <bon> jam...you afk? :-s 14:47:52 <Stablean> <Jam35> hello 14:47:55 <Stablean> <Jam35> whatsup 14:47:59 <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo 14:48:02 <Stablean> <bon> heh happy...seem both of us funded our own printing works eh? :) 14:48:09 <Stablean> <travstr> oh it's out 14:48:11 <Stablean> <travstr> omg yes! 14:48:37 <Stablean> <travstr> oh dat speed 14:48:39 <Stablean> <travstr> beautiful 14:48:46 <Stablean> <bon> jam...well the thing is.. one of berk's lazy monorail is in the way of being able to make a tunnel .. you mind raising two tiles for me? 14:49:12 <Stablean> <Jam35> hm 14:49:14 <Stablean> <Jam35> sign? 14:49:16 <Stablean> <bon> I signed it 14:49:55 <Stablean> <bon> don't worry about the other section...these can wait for him to actually show up 14:50:05 <Stablean> <bon> this is the only one thats a bit needy atm 14:50:19 <Stablean> <Jam35> well you can simply move that loop over 14:50:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> and tunnel 1 tile to the right 14:51:20 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 14:51:32 <Stablean> <Jam35> ^^ :) 14:51:35 <Stablean> <bon> hmm....I didn't quite think of that one...but heh...ty anyway...now to show someone else the amusement in boats 14:51:45 <Stablean> <travstr> >.> 14:53:15 <Stablean> <bon> there first super-long boat out now 14:53:21 <Stablean> <bon> have fun watching it if you want :P 14:53:27 <Stablean> <travstr> idk where ti is 14:53:33 <Stablean> <travstr> so I can wait. 14:53:35 <Stablean> <bon> check train 52 in my list fyi :) 14:53:42 <Stablean> <travstr> maybe later 14:53:49 <Stablean> <bon> ok 14:55:40 <Stablean> <travstr> okay i'll look at the boats :p 14:55:50 <Stablean> <bon> its train 52 and 53 now :) 14:56:00 <Stablean> <bon> they're kinda silly I know :) 14:56:18 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah... 14:56:49 <Stablean> <travstr> how much did those bridges cost? 14:56:56 <Stablean> <travstr> or should i say aqueducts. 14:57:07 <Stablean> <bon> same as for rails/erails 14:57:09 <Stablean> <travstr> across the water 14:57:15 <Stablean> <travstr> seriously lmao 14:57:15 <Stablean> *** Anson joined the game 15:00:22 <Stablean> <travstr> bleh 15:00:35 <Stablean> <travstr> hey player 15:00:41 <Stablean> <travstr> hw u doin gurlfren 15:02:12 <Stablean> <travstr> uranium? lol wtf 15:03:50 <Stablean> <bon> travstr...mind you I at least once did have a game that was 100% wetrail all over the place .. har har :P 15:03:57 <Stablean> <bon> still thinking about it again for another map ;) 15:04:04 <Stablean> <travstr> ummmm 15:04:10 <Stablean> <travstr> that sounds really terrible 15:04:16 <Stablean> <travstr> but i suppose.. 15:04:20 <Stablean> <bon> actually it was good...they have high capacity in a way 15:04:31 <Stablean> <travstr> that's what i was thinking 15:04:38 <Stablean> <travstr> i was gonna say, you'd need a lot of them 15:04:40 <Stablean> <bon> the tug doesn't exactly like a lot of slopes tho so its a compromise 15:04:46 <Stablean> <travstr> o 15:05:06 <Stablean> <travstr> wow 990 crates of goods a time 15:05:09 <Stablean> <travstr> not bad. 15:05:35 <Stablean> <bon> btw for comparsion sake.. the 3rd gen universal wagon only can carry 35 goods per.. while the barge can carry 40 each with a much better loading speed too 15:05:53 <Stablean> <travstr> hm 15:05:59 <Stablean> <bon> I'll rather not compare to the 1st gen .. which only has 24 crates and a slow loading time 15:06:00 <Stablean> <bon> :) 15:06:14 <Stablean> <bon> so yeah its a matter of whether your network has stations all bunched close together or not 15:06:34 <Stablean> <bon> I theriocally could had converted everything except pax to wetrail but ... its a bit too late into game for that atm 15:07:12 <Stablean> <travstr> forgetting to refit trains and wondering why they're always empty :/ 15:07:22 <Stablean> <bon> heh :-> 15:07:34 <Stablean> <travstr> so maybe universal wagons are better after all 15:07:38 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has joined spectators 15:08:14 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (general timeout) 15:08:14 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 15:08:44 <Stablean> <bon> hmmm....yeah...I should just start with a few rail trains till the ships comes out then go wetrail-crazy again in next game :P 15:08:57 <Stablean> <bon> wonder what djanxy will say seeing its not the first time he's seen me doing that 15:08:57 <Stablean> <bon> :) 15:09:19 <Stablean> <travstr> lol 15:09:40 <Stablean> <bon> travstr and you want know what I called my company? something along The Soggy Way 15:09:42 <Stablean> <bon> :p 15:09:45 <Stablean> <travstr> makes perfect sense :p 15:09:47 <Stablean> <travstr> lol 15:09:55 <Stablean> <bon> hehehe yeah .. and I was making silly captain remarks too 15:10:01 <Stablean> <travstr> lol 15:10:15 <Stablean> <bon> such as looking out the window and wondering why my bow is gone 15:10:25 <Stablean> <bon> (hint: its not gone...the front of ship just went down a slope!) 15:10:28 <Stablean> <bon> :P 15:10:30 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (general timeout) 15:10:30 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 15:10:36 <Stablean> <bon> I sure made silly jokes ofc 15:10:48 <Stablean> <bon> :) 15:11:04 <Stablean> <travstr> lol 15:11:14 <Stablean> <travstr> i forgot that ships are like trains and they're in segments 15:11:17 <Stablean> <travstr> so it looks funny on a slope lol 15:11:36 <Stablean> <bon> travstr or here's another one: what do you mean? theres only 5 barges? there should be six now the bloody turn this ship around! 15:11:47 <Stablean> <bon> <<was too silly and still can be 15:12:01 <Stablean> <travstr> lols 15:12:31 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (general timeout) 15:12:31 <Stablean> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 15:13:34 <Stablean> <bon> travstr oh and I only did it once but you can make the large ship carry passengers...they look like blob heads riding on top of the deck :) 15:13:49 <Stablean> <travstr> oh lol haha 15:14:15 <Stablean> <bon> if you think thats too silly..tell THAT to v453000 then... he made a *nutty* NUTS grf indeed :) 15:14:36 <Stablean> *** Fehlersturm joined the game 15:14:52 <Stablean> <bon> heh hi fehler...some timing you have...I was wondering about going off soon but . hi there anyway :p 15:15:22 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> hello 15:15:28 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 15:15:30 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> i am just checking real quick 15:15:33 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> 15 min 15:15:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep and a tran q 15:15:54 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> omg hugeass jam 15:16:00 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> a gen 15:16:54 <Stablean> <bon> tbh I wish the next map would have FIRS again...this whole thing about unstable output aspect is just too stupid... I mean ... 120 tonnes then 870 tonnes? :| 15:17:02 <Stablean> <bon> but meh 15:17:28 <Stablean> <travstr> i haven't played with the firs mod yet 15:17:38 <Stablean> <travstr> but i spectated the previous game and it looked cool 15:17:52 <Stablean> <bon> either way...going take a break...not sure I'll ever finish fixing up things but meh we'll see 15:17:58 <Stablean> <bon> be back later or something :) 15:18:09 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 15:18:18 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> its a bit hard to play whive 15:20:13 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> travstr in the larst game u have to doo supplies to get mor coal out 15:20:31 <Stablean> <travstr> oh 15:20:49 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i saw there was extra stuff you could unload to increase output 15:20:51 <Stablean> <travstr> it looked interesting 15:21:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 15:24:51 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nice wood papper goods net werk jam 15:27:39 <Stablean> <Fehlersturm> ok gg bb 15:27:45 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> bb 15:29:24 <Stablean> *** Fehlersturm has left the game (leaving) 15:31:41 <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy (and all others) 15:31:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 15:32:10 <Stablean> <Anson> happy, sorry about the company on the last map, but several people worked hard together to bankrupt it :-) 15:32:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thats ok i did not like the map eeny way 15:32:54 <Stablean> <Anson> it started when you left quickly ... and left some bad signals behind, which immediately caused a jam of the entire net 15:33:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 15:33:39 <Stablean> <Anson> you also had trains with double engines (for TL3), and thus the income was minimal 15:33:49 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 15:34:03 <Stablean> <Anson> then i spent 150 mio (or a little more) to convert all rails 15:34:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 15:34:23 <Stablean> <Anson> that left the company with 0 cash (and 0 loan too) 15:34:34 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 15:35:10 <Stablean> <Anson> and finally meech came and started autoreplacing engines ... which would have cost another 200-250 mio at least ... thus cash was always at 0 15:35:29 <Stablean> <travstr> how to make a train wait at a station until the load percentage is at a certain number? 15:35:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i dont blame u for my company whent 15:35:47 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm using a conditional but it just sends the train away and comes back again 15:35:53 <Stablean> <travstr> which isn't ideal of course 15:36:08 <Stablean> <Anson> with tzhe minimal income that the company had, only 6 (SIX!!!) trains could be replaced per year ... and the company had 100+++ trains 15:37:06 <Stablean> <Anson> with the new trains, different speeds and other cargo capacity, trains started to queue, and even jammed ... thus i built more obverflows 15:38:12 <Stablean> <Anson> and then came the last problem : i thought that i had fixed a queue and overflow when my doorbell rang ... was afk for 20 minutes and when i returned, the company was gone 15:38:31 <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo 15:38:45 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 15:39:45 <Stablean> <Anson> when i look at an old autosave, i saw that because of bigger capacity and a temporary jam before (which dropped ratings and thus production), trains had mesed up the entrance to a station and jammed the whole net ... 15:40:47 <Stablean> <Anson> with zero cash, we got so much debt per year, that the company was dead after only a year, before i came back 15:42:01 <Stablean> <Anson> oh well ... murphy worked overtime : what can go bad, will go bad, and mostly all at the same time :-) 15:43:47 <Stablean> <Anson> travstr: which trains have the problems with conditionals ? 15:43:53 <Stablean> <travstr> oh wow 15:43:57 <Stablean> <travstr> that's annoying 15:44:11 <Stablean> <travstr> well happy can be.. happy 15:45:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> anson have u see my net werk 15:46:04 <Stablean> <Anson> i only saw that there are many huge (mostly long) networks again 15:46:30 <Stablean> <travstr> it makes joining late a pain 15:47:21 <Stablean> <travstr> btw happy i prospected a new forest 15:47:27 <Stablean> <travstr> and it was right next to your line 15:47:30 <Stablean> <travstr> but i want it so sorry 15:47:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thats ok ucan have it 15:48:46 <Stablean> <travstr> "maximum tunnel length: 2,048 tiles" O_O 15:55:14 <Stablean> <travstr> god this line is long O_o 15:58:21 <Stablean> <Anson> happy, nice big net ... but i still have to find the "main stations" :-) 15:58:37 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 15:59:13 <Stablean> <Anson> while following the rails, i saw some double bridges ... most of them are synced, but at least one isn't .... 15:59:18 <Stablean> *** Anson has started a new company (#12) 15:59:26 <Stablean> <travstr> where 15:59:28 <Stablean> <travstr> who 15:59:48 <Stablean> <Anson> at !not synced 16:00:02 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 16:01:28 <Stablean> <Anson> another hint for double bridges that i recently saw/learned : when you build them with presignals or with pbs, trains will stop nicely in front of the bridge when both lanes are used .... but just THAT is the disadvantage and problem ... 16:01:55 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:02:25 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game 16:02:29 <Stablean> <Anson> when that happens, they easily "turn evil" and cause trains on both lanes to always stop each other, and because of stopping, they are so slow that they will never end stopping each other 16:02:47 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> dont no 16:02:49 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 16:02:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi 16:02:58 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 16:03:16 <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo 16:03:36 <Stablean> <Anson> thus it is (most of the time) better to use simple block signals : if the bridge turned evil, sooner or later the trains will jam ONCE at the start of the bridge, and when they continue the bridge is no longer evil 16:04:06 <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder why toffel's income just shot back up 16:04:08 <Stablean> <travstr> lalalala e 16:04:34 <Stablean> <Anson> and if the bridge turns eveil again and again, then the problem is somewhere else, eg a jam after the bridge, unsynced bridge or whatever 16:05:20 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i see 16:07:31 <Stablean> <Anson> btw: on the last map, you had a really nice refit station which worked realy nicely .... but only by itself 16:08:06 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:08:24 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> that was good 16:08:26 <Stablean> <Anson> trains from that station which should transport supplies were almost empty most of the time, thus used up much space on rails without delivering anything useful 16:08:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:09:22 <Stablean> <Anson> and that in turn caused production to go up and down between 1x, 2x and 4x ... which in turn caused some of the jams for trains that suddenly didn't get enough resources 16:09:56 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer i mite try that a gen soon 16:11:00 <Stablean> <Anson> i once saw such a refitting system for firs, but it had lots more resources and wouldn't behave bad when a slight disturbance occured 16:11:35 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:11:57 <Stablean> <Anson> i think it might be better to separate the supplies from all other cargo, not including them in the refit process and thus having more control about loading and delivering supplies 16:12:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:14:29 <Stablean> <Anson> another hint : 16:15:03 <Stablean> <Anson> you have a nice overflow depot at Prarnville North ... but it has a little flaw 16:15:10 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:15:34 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) joined the game 16:15:49 <Stablean> *** iTKerry(UA) has left the game (leaving) 16:16:01 <Stablean> <Anson> the station length is exactly the train length, and signals are directly in front of the platforms ... thus trains will brake early and force trains into the reverser without need 16:16:20 <Stablean> <travstr> that was what i noticed 16:16:26 <Stablean> <travstr> but i didn't know how to word it lol 16:16:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:16:38 <Stablean> <Anson> use 1 or 2 tiles brake space, either by making the stations longer or by adding a spare tile in front of them 16:17:00 <Stablean> <Anson> and put signals as early as possible, not in front of the platforms 16:17:02 <Stablean> <travstr> you could move the station forward by 1 tile 16:17:08 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (general timeout) 16:17:08 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (connection lost) 16:18:22 <Stablean> <travstr> omg you can autoreplace monorails to maglev? 16:18:29 <Stablean> <travstr> i did not even know this. 16:18:33 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:18:47 <Stablean> <Anson> travstr : that is the purpose of universal rails :-9 16:18:57 <Stablean> <travstr> i didn't know you could do it though holy CRAP 16:19:00 <Stablean> <travstr> my life just got x10000000 times easier 16:19:54 <Stablean> <travstr> what's the logic engine for? testing rails and singals and stuff? 16:20:38 <Stablean> <Anson> the old (1+ years ago) universal rails had several/different methods to autoreplace trains ... then came nuts and included universal rails in the set, making everything easier to handle, and finally purr came, to be able to color universal rails (no functional changes) 16:21:22 <Stablean> <travstr> cool :p 16:21:24 <Stablean> <Anson> now, everything but wet can use universal rails easily ... for wet, you will get a penalty of 30% less power, te, speed 16:21:35 <Stablean> <travstr> awesome :o 16:22:09 <Stablean> <travstr> woo two of my trains just broke the 1mil a year mark :D 16:22:15 <Stablean> <travstr> and it's not even a year \m/ 16:22:15 <Stablean> <Anson> i heard that a future (or already the current new?) version of purr might give different bonuses depending on color 16:22:45 <Stablean> <travstr> hm interesting 16:22:51 <Stablean> <travstr> though for now it's good to use for marking 16:23:01 <Stablean> <Anson> remember that on this map, inflation is on, thus everything is 5x higher than at the beginning now 16:23:23 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i know lol :p 16:24:21 <Stablean> *** Djanxy has joined company #6 16:24:30 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 16:24:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wb djanxy 16:25:00 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ty 16:25:14 <Stablean> <Jam35> meh 16:25:28 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 16:25:33 <Stablean> <Djanxy> just for a min though, not quite done with the duties of the day ;) 16:25:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> station is dead anyway 16:26:25 <Stablean> <Anson> happy, now trains should use the reverser less often :-) 16:26:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 16:27:02 <Stablean> <Anson> maybe you can remove the tunnel completely ... there should be 3 tiles in front of the factory 16:28:20 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 16:31:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam see my sign say john 16:32:12 <Stablean> <Jam35> who's John? 16:32:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> wher can i john this up 16:32:44 <Stablean> <travstr> do you mean join 16:32:44 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> not shor how 16:32:56 <Stablean> <Anson> translation : happy jahn = english join :-) 16:33:15 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep its my spling is not good 16:34:57 <Stablean> <Jam35> that? 16:35:03 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yep 16:35:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 16:42:37 <Stablean> <Jam35> Anson when did you have a network on here that wasn't massively jammed? 16:42:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> stop signing stuff that isn't a problem 16:42:58 <Stablean> <Anson> here = on this server ? 16:43:01 *** Mark has quit IRC 16:43:06 <Stablean> <Jam35> ofc 16:43:40 <Stablean> <Anson> quite often ... before 2100 when resources explode to 1000+ production 16:44:02 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm sure there isn't 3 tiles before the factory 16:44:04 <Stablean> <travstr> there's only 2 16:44:18 <Stablean> <travstr> 3 tiles means going onto the junction at which point the train can't actually turn 16:44:40 <Stablean> <travstr> yes but tile '1' is the junction 16:44:46 <Stablean> <Anson> when the tunnel entrance is gone, it is the third tile 16:44:48 <Stablean> <travstr> does that not mean the train will not be able to turn 16:44:56 <Stablean> <travstr> sigh 16:45:07 <Stablean> <travstr> try it yourself 16:45:10 <Stablean> <Anson> tile 1 is the junction, but after the split point 16:45:14 <Stablean> <Djanxy> it should be enough 16:45:36 <Stablean> <travstr> oh i thought the trains were going right 16:45:44 <Stablean> <travstr> they're going left then back again? 16:45:58 <Stablean> <travstr> or into the depot 16:46:00 <Stablean> <travstr> i suppose >.> 16:46:03 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 16:46:44 <Stablean> <Anson> if the station is full, the 2way signals will be red and thus (with the setting "2way_eol") trains will go to the reverser (into the tunnel) 16:47:03 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i understand how it works 16:47:32 <Stablean> <Anson> and then back from the tunnel, they go to the depot, and wait there until the 2way signals is green ... won't try to leave before it turns gren again 16:47:56 <Stablean> <travstr> i understand the idea lol 16:48:22 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 16:49:26 <Stablean> <Djanxy> see my example Trav ? right next to it 16:49:48 <Stablean> <travstr> i already understood the concept 16:49:58 <Stablean> <travstr> but yeah, thanks i suppose 16:50:10 <Stablean> <Djanxy> thought you meant it wasnt enough room to turn 16:50:44 <Stablean> <travstr> i did but i thought the trains were going right 16:50:54 <Stablean> <travstr> then i realised that a. they weren't and 16:50:57 <Stablean> <travstr> b. 90' turns are off 16:51:51 <Stablean> <Anson> these servers always have 90 degree off and 2way_eol on 16:52:05 <Stablean> <travstr> this is the first time i've playe 16:52:11 <Stablean> <travstr> but yeah now i know :p 16:52:33 <Stablean> <travstr> also autoreplacing monorail to maglev doesn't work as i thought it would, lol 16:52:48 <Stablean> <Anson> those settings are needed to make good stations and nets, logic, etc 16:53:03 <Stablean> <Djanxy> need to replace the wagons as well I guess 16:53:12 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah... :/ 16:53:19 <Stablean> <Anson> if you autoreplace from one railtype to another, you need to replace engines AND wagons 16:53:22 <Stablean> <Djanxy> can autoreplace that too 16:55:01 <Stablean> <Anson> if you replace short engines or wagons for longer ones, you shouldn't forget to set the flag to truncate the trains .... too bad that there is no flag to "auto-double" the last wagon if the train becomes shorter by replacing 16:57:55 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah Anson, that would be awesome :D 16:58:06 <Stablean> <Anson> what does the logic near Flunwell do ? nothing !? 16:58:42 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i noticed that :p 16:59:52 <Stablean> <Anson> probably intended a flipflop to force every second train to Dunworth, but doesn't work with only one rail connected 17:00:12 <Stablean> <Jam35> happy can you lend me £10million to buy trains? 17:00:33 <Stablean> *** Player has joined spectators 17:00:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> yay :) 17:00:57 <Stablean> <Jam35> pay ya back later 17:01:15 <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to Berkel 17:01:32 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thats ok u dont need to pay me back i got lots ov muney 17:01:51 <Stablean> <Anson> a default username (even including spaces) can be set on the main screen where multiplayer is joined 17:02:53 <Stablean> <Jam35> only 5 million 17:02:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok thanks 17:03:45 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (general timeout) 17:03:45 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (connection lost) 17:04:28 <Stablean> *** Berkel joined the game 17:07:47 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (general timeout) 17:07:47 <Stablean> *** Berkel has left the game (connection lost) 17:16:50 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> nned sume help 17:16:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> jam 17:23:06 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 17:23:14 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi player 17:23:40 <Stablean> *** Anson has joined spectators 17:32:16 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 17:39:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> what help happy? 17:39:59 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yer i need a slh 17:40:07 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 17:40:54 <Stablean> *** V453000 joined the game 17:40:57 <Stablean> <V453000> o/ 17:40:57 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi v 17:41:03 <Stablean> <Jam35> ih 17:41:59 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi V 17:42:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> you mean you want to double that for you? 17:42:28 <Stablean> <Jam35> hmm ask Anson 17:42:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) 17:42:30 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> yes 17:42:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 17:43:20 <Stablean> <Jam35> it's a fair amount of work 17:43:43 <Stablean> <Jam35> at least to properize it 17:44:13 <Stablean> <Jam35> sort out the hub south of there first 17:44:19 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok i doo it 17:45:33 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk joined the game 17:45:37 <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi 17:45:43 <Stablean> <Djanxy> ello 17:46:05 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 17:46:21 <Stablean> <Jam35> that sideline doesn't need doubling 17:46:36 <Stablean> <Jam35> just the ML part 17:46:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> to the station 17:47:01 <Stablean> <Jam35> factory 17:47:09 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ar i see 17:48:07 <Stablean> *** Liuk Sk has left the game (leaving) 17:53:31 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> be back later 17:53:37 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 17:53:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> k 18:01:31 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 18:05:39 <Stablean> <travstr> dat maglev speed 18:05:45 <Stablean> <travstr> ugh sexy. 18:21:43 <Stablean> <travstr> is anyone there 18:21:45 <Stablean> <travstr> i need help 18:21:56 <Stablean> <Djanxy> sup 18:22:14 <Stablean> <travstr> if you ask a train to go non-stop will it service or no 18:22:20 <Stablean> <travstr> cause the reliablity of my trains is really low 18:22:39 <Stablean> <Djanxy> breakdowns are turned off, so servicing doesnt matter 18:22:45 <Stablean> <travstr> ._. 18:22:55 <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo 18:22:58 <Stablean> <travstr> ty. 18:23:04 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :) 18:24:19 *** ODM has quit IRC 18:29:31 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 18:33:39 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #2 18:34:19 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined spectators 18:41:24 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has joined company #7 18:41:48 <Stablean> <travstr> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 18:42:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> problem? :) 18:43:06 <Stablean> <travstr> yes ':)' 18:44:04 <Stablean> <Jam35> paper trains blocking the drop? 18:44:22 <Stablean> <travstr> yes but 18:44:24 <Stablean> <travstr> well yes 18:44:28 <Stablean> <travstr> that is the problem. 18:44:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> separate stations works better 18:44:40 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm trying to find a way for the signals to go 18:45:11 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm trying to use entry and exit signals 18:45:13 <Stablean> <travstr> and it didn't work 18:45:20 <Stablean> <travstr> so i gave up and used path ones, like always 18:45:42 <Stablean> <travstr> LOL 18:45:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> :P 18:45:50 <Stablean> <travstr> KILL ME 18:46:08 <Stablean> <travstr> oh i know the problem 18:46:08 <Stablean> <travstr> sigh 18:46:15 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah... 18:46:19 <Stablean> <Jam35> the bays !here need to be long enough to hold an entire train 18:46:31 <Stablean> <travstr> i need to put the exit signals after the stations 18:46:37 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah that too but i just adusted that 18:46:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> no 18:47:17 <Stablean> <Jam35> well they aren't long enough 18:47:23 <Stablean> <travstr> *sigh* 18:47:29 <Stablean> <Jam35> but it may work better with pbs that way in any case 18:47:35 <Stablean> <travstr> pbs 18:47:37 <Stablean> <travstr> what is pbs 18:47:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> as you have two ways to enter 18:48:26 <Stablean> <Jam35> or remove one of them and entry/exit before platforms 18:48:41 <Stablean> <travstr> why :( 18:48:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> why what? remove? 18:48:57 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah 18:49:00 <Stablean> <travstr> i thought that was right lol 18:49:18 <Stablean> <Jam35> the bay doesnt do a lot as its too short :) 18:49:24 <Stablean> <travstr> true 18:49:30 <Stablean> <Jam35> blocks the other one 18:49:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> that works 18:50:20 <Stablean> <travstr> my idea was so two trains could enter at once without using the same path 18:50:27 <Stablean> <travstr> but the water made it awkward/impossible 18:50:41 <Stablean> <Jam35> move the exit track over 18:50:51 <Stablean> <travstr> which one 18:51:01 <Stablean> <travstr> ? 18:51:05 <Stablean> <Jam35> other way :) 18:52:23 <Stablean> <travstr> thanks :p 18:52:38 <Stablean> <Jam35> water may still be a problem 18:53:21 <Stablean> <travstr> why does it go red now 18:53:24 <Stablean> <travstr> when there's space left 18:53:34 <Stablean> <Jam35> still short by one tile 18:53:45 <Stablean> <travstr> lmaoooo 18:53:47 <Stablean> <Jam35> the inner one 18:54:05 <Stablean> <travstr> ye 18:54:11 <Stablean> <Jam35> well it's 4.5 tiles and your trains are 5 18:55:33 <Stablean> <travstr> hm 18:56:39 <Stablean> <Jam35> but don't forget the area after the entry signals is one block 18:56:45 <Stablean> <Jam35> only one train can enter 18:57:05 <Stablean> <travstr> o 18:57:11 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm just going to use path signals 18:57:13 <Stablean> <travstr> i cba 18:57:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> might be more effective in this case 18:57:37 <Stablean> <Jam35> yep 18:58:00 <Stablean> <travstr> i just wish the water didn't stretch to the left side ._. 18:58:11 <Stablean> <travstr> anyways ty for your help :p :> 18:58:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> np :) 18:58:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> you could always rebuild the station 18:59:02 <Stablean> <travstr> i suppose but the left side doesn't give me much space either 18:59:08 <Stablean> <travstr> though i do need more than 4 platforms 18:59:44 <Stablean> <Jam35> I still think separate stations for pickup and drop trains 18:59:51 <Stablean> <Jam35> but up to you ofc 19:00:21 <Stablean> <travstr> good idea. 19:00:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> what could happen is that all platforms are taken by pick trains 19:00:31 <Stablean> <travstr> i'm just thinking how it could work 19:00:33 <Stablean> <Jam35> so nothing can drop then jam 19:00:36 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah that happens all the time lol. 19:00:50 <Stablean> <Jam35> :) 19:00:57 <Stablean> <Jam35> plenty of space 19:00:59 <Stablean> <travstr> i wonder how i can get two stations though 19:01:09 <Stablean> <travstr> cause a bridge over those two water tiles is expensive 19:01:15 <Stablean> <travstr> getting rid of them is expensive too 19:01:25 <Stablean> <Jam35> you have 12 tiles so 'walk' the station maybe? 19:03:52 <Stablean> <travstr> ugh this water :@@@@@@@ 19:06:38 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 19:07:31 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (general timeout) 19:07:31 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 19:07:37 <Stablean> <travstr> ummm 19:07:40 <Stablean> <travstr> what just happened 19:08:12 <Stablean> *** Jam35 joined the game 19:08:16 <Stablean> <travstr> wb :p 19:08:19 <Stablean> <travstr> what just happened :o 19:08:40 <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh, no. 1 :D 19:08:48 <Jam35> idk went disco 19:12:09 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 19:13:28 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 19:13:32 <Stablean> <bon> hi 19:13:34 <Stablean> <travstr> thanks jam 19:13:38 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi bon 19:13:40 <Stablean> <Jam35> hi 19:13:40 <Stablean> <travstr> it works like a dream 19:13:43 <Stablean> <travstr> hello bon 19:13:49 <Stablean> <bon> what worked? :) 19:13:59 <Stablean> <travstr> using two stations instead of one. 19:14:05 <Stablean> <bon> oh :P 19:14:11 <Stablean> <Djanxy> dividing drop and pickup 19:14:22 <Stablean> <bon> and seriously why the *** can't the original industry act like FIRS and stop arbitarly jumping production rates >_< 19:14:32 <Stablean> <bon> meh...its late in the game .. I'll just ignore it 19:16:12 <Stablean> <Jam35> glad to help :P 19:17:19 <Stablean> <bon> (at least if I go WET next game I can just oversize the stations knowing I'll be able to use long ships to haul this crap off heh) 19:17:25 <Stablean> <bon> :) 19:17:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> just a note it is not strictly necessary to have pbs (path) signals before every junction 19:17:47 <Stablean> <travstr> oh lol 19:17:53 <Stablean> <travstr> i just do it anyway. idk why 19:17:59 <Stablean> <Jam35> as a rule of thumb only if you want more than 1 train in the ahead block 19:18:17 <Stablean> <travstr> so i can just use block signals? 19:18:21 <Stablean> <bon> hmmmmm or I could try risk converting to ships now piece by piece 19:18:36 <Stablean> <Jam35> so like !here normal signals are fine 19:18:43 <Stablean> <travstr> o 19:18:45 <Stablean> <travstr> ty 19:19:03 <Stablean> <Djanxy> can only ever be one train in the block so path signals are redundant 19:19:05 <Stablean> <Jam35> doesn't break the junction having them just they are not needed 19:19:11 <Stablean> <travstr> mhm 19:20:31 <Stablean> <Jam35> you have several others similar but you can find them :) 19:20:37 <Stablean> <Djanxy> its really used mostly for terminus stations, as far as i've seen (there are other uses) 19:20:39 <Stablean> <travstr> god everything is so smoothly running lol 19:20:41 <Stablean> <travstr> yeah 19:21:47 <Stablean> <Jam35> yes I like how you build and you want to experiment which is good 19:22:26 <Stablean> <travstr> woo 19:22:33 <Stablean> <mickdermack> just a question, trav: why do you require your wood trains to go a loop? 19:22:33 <Stablean> <travstr> experimenting is fun 19:22:38 <Stablean> <travstr> what do you mean 19:23:09 <Stablean> <travstr> do you mean the big loop after the station? 19:23:19 <Stablean> <travstr> or the fact there is a loop at all 19:23:38 <Stablean> <mickdermack> to the tratbourne paper mill: all wood trains have to go a loop through little brefingbridge before they can enter the station 19:23:41 <Stablean> <Djanxy> wood from south has no direct path to the drop it seems 19:23:50 <Stablean> <travstr> they do? 19:23:52 <Stablean> <travstr> :o 19:23:56 <Stablean> <travstr> OH LOL 19:24:18 <Stablean> <travstr> what i messed some stuff up 19:24:25 <Stablean> <travstr> because the paper trains can't go directly any more 19:24:31 <Stablean> <travstr> and the wood trains can't either 19:24:32 <Stablean> <travstr> V.v 19:24:35 <Stablean> <Djanxy> easy to forget something ;) 19:25:09 <Stablean> <travstr> no wonder there's so much more paper here x) 19:25:09 <Stablean> <travstr> sighhh 19:25:51 <Stablean> <travstr> should be fixed x) 19:25:53 <Stablean> <travstr> but ty 19:34:52 <Stablean> <mickdermack> trains are weird... i just saw a passenger train go through tratbourne north... and a wood train queuing at the paper pickup... 19:35:07 <Stablean> <travstr> the passenger train was my fault 19:35:09 <Stablean> <travstr> the other one idk 19:35:11 <Stablean> <mickdermack> k 19:47:16 <Stablean> <travstr> is there any point in using medium maglev when you can use fast? i'm just wondering because there seems to be no difference 19:47:19 <Stablean> <travstr> so i might upgrade 19:47:54 <Stablean> <Jam35> they may be fast but don't accelerate too well 19:48:04 <Stablean> <Djanxy> medium has more power 19:48:12 <Stablean> <travstr> i did notice that but 19:48:22 <Stablean> <bon> meh sorry had to afk...now where was I 19:48:24 <Stablean> <travstr> does it make that much of a difference? is it noticable? 19:48:46 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah 19:49:01 <Stablean> *** Slicey joined the game 19:49:05 <Stablean> <travstr> oh. lol. 19:49:08 <Stablean> <Djanxy> id say especially when using long ish trains with one engine 19:49:22 <Stablean> <travstr> uh huh 19:49:28 <Stablean> <Djanxy> set up a drag race track and test :D 19:49:30 <Stablean> <travstr> i guess i won't use them then. 19:49:36 <Stablean> <travstr> hm good idea lol 19:49:46 <Stablean> <Djanxy> although 19:49:52 <Stablean> <Djanxy> would be best to test loaded trains 19:49:55 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 19:49:57 <Stablean> <travstr> mhm 19:50:01 <Stablean> <Jam35> you will notice traffic queuing more unless you can compensate 19:50:11 <Stablean> <travstr> however i won't use them because i have slower trains on my network 19:50:27 <Stablean> <travstr> namely the passenger trains that are only slightly slower than these medium ones 19:50:33 <Stablean> <travstr> so the fast ones will be really bad 19:52:07 <Stablean> *** Slicey has left the game (leaving) 20:06:25 <Stablean> <travstr> Sorry i had to go 20:06:31 <Stablean> <travstr> but i have returned 20:06:41 <Stablean> <Djanxy> wb! 20:06:47 <Stablean> <travstr> ty :p 20:06:50 <Stablean> <travstr> :> 20:06:53 <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P 20:09:52 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 20:10:05 <Stablean> <travstr> oh hey boo 20:10:23 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all 20:10:26 <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi 20:10:44 <Stablean> <bon> there...one down..several more to convert...should be a long fun night heh 20:28:08 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (general timeout) 20:28:08 <Stablean> *** Jam35 has left the game (connection lost) 20:29:16 <Jam35> right.... 20:29:22 <Jam35> bye then i guess :p 20:29:30 <Stablean> <Djanxy> bb :D 20:29:57 <Stablean> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:30:11 <Stablean> *** solo joined the game 20:30:23 <Stablean> *** solo has left the game (leaving) 20:43:49 <Stablean> <bon> meh I think I'll rather not bother a massive convert at all..can't see how to dispute things lightly 20:43:52 <Stablean> <bon> next game instead it is :) 20:44:02 <Stablean> <bon> at least the isolated copper line is fun for now 20:44:14 <Stablean> <bon> and with that I need to start slow supper so ... going for a bit now :-s 20:44:20 <Stablean> *** bon has left the game (leaving) 21:00:37 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 21:00:49 <Stablean> <travstr> welcome back. 21:00:49 <Stablean> <travstr> :p 21:00:56 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 21:01:01 <Stablean> <travstr> or no 21:01:03 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thanks 21:01:09 <Stablean> <travstr> or yes :p 21:01:19 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> i am back 21:05:39 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 21:06:12 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 21:17:44 <Stablean> *** Dr-Dinosaur has started a new company (#12) 21:17:46 <Stablean> *** Dr-Dinosaur joined the game 21:18:18 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Hiya 21:18:36 <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo 21:18:36 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> welcume to the server 21:18:44 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I've been here before Happy :) 21:18:50 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> But thanks :) 21:18:52 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> ok 21:18:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> np 21:19:33 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined company #2 21:20:47 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Whoah, what's with the cost of slopes :/ 21:21:06 <Stablean> <travstr> Yeah.... 21:21:17 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> to mak the game harder 21:21:23 <Stablean> <travstr> generally the cost off everything is more 21:21:33 <Stablean> <travstr> luckily you get a huge loan to compensate xo 21:21:44 <Stablean> <travstr> and you earn huge amounts of money for short-ish distances 21:28:14 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I can't afford signals, this is different :p 21:28:48 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> try now 21:28:48 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Nonono 21:29:20 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> how do i give it you back 21:30:04 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> go to client list 21:30:11 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> i can't give back, as i have a loan 21:30:46 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> thats ok i give that to help u to get start 21:30:52 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport has joined spectators 21:31:08 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I probabaly shouldn't have gone for universal rails :) 21:31:18 <Stablean> <Djanxy> nope ;) 21:32:38 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> your coal drop is to for 21:38:24 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> is the max loan automatically inflating? 21:38:26 <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> that's kinda cool 21:38:36 <Stablean> <travstr> ye 21:38:46 <Stablean> <travstr> it does that standard game 21:38:52 <Stablean> <travstr> unless i'm wrong 22:05:46 <Stablean> *** Dr-Dinosaur has joined spectators 22:18:19 <Stablean> *** happy tran sport has left the game (leaving) 22:21:49 <Stablean> *** travstr has left the game (general timeout) 22:21:49 <Stablean> *** travstr has left the game (connection lost) 22:23:44 <Stablean> *** mickdermack has left the game (leaving) 22:24:16 <Stablean> *** Dr-Dinosaur has left the game (leaving) 22:29:40 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 22:31:38 <Stablean> *** travstr joined the game 22:31:46 <Stablean> <travstr> computer went into hibernate ._. 23:00:20 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (general timeout) 23:00:20 <Stablean> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 23:06:29 <Stablean> *** titanic has started a new company (#13) 23:06:31 <Stablean> *** titanic joined the game 23:11:35 <Stablean> <travstr> oopsy 23:11:41 <Stablean> <Djanxy> RIP 23:11:44 <Stablean> <travstr> ikr 23:12:38 <Stablean> <travstr> ugh this is gonna screw up my whole system 23:12:40 <Stablean> <travstr> sigh 23:12:47 <Stablean> <travstr> MOVE TRAINS 23:12:49 <Stablean> <travstr> JESUS 23:13:23 <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah takes a while to go away 23:13:26 <Stablean> <travstr> sigh cry 23:13:32 <Stablean> <travstr> all dis paper needs to be shifted 23:13:35 <Stablean> <travstr> COME ON 23:13:43 <Stablean> <travstr> I need monies come on 23:15:03 <Stablean> *** bon joined the game 23:15:06 <Stablean> <travstr> hey bon :p 23:15:21 <Stablean> <bon> hey...was just thinking...when do they actually decide to reset anyway? 23:15:27 <Stablean> <bon> I'm not sure what the pattern seem to be 23:15:30 <Stablean> <travstr> i was thinking that 23:15:36 <Stablean> <travstr> i love my network *cries* 23:15:50 <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont think there it a pattern 23:15:52 <Stablean> <bon> travstr...save a copy to your drive...and you can keep playing it afterward :P 23:16:02 <Stablean> <travstr> i did BUT i could only play as company 1 23:16:08 <Stablean> <travstr> and not my actual company 23:16:19 <Stablean> <Djanxy> use ctrl+alt+c 23:16:22 <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...then how the hell do they decide when to reset seeing its not at 2050 or something? :) 23:16:24 <Stablean> <Djanxy> cheat menu 23:16:30 <Stablean> <Djanxy> there you can change company 23:16:40 <Stablean> <Djanxy> in single player ofc :D 23:16:54 <Stablean> <travstr> um i tried that 23:17:01 <Stablean> <travstr> but i'll try again :p 23:17:07 <Stablean> <Djanxy> works for me 23:17:10 <Stablean> <travstr> oh ok 23:17:36 <Stablean> <Djanxy> cause i had the same problem until i discovered that 23:18:50 <Stablean> <Djanxy> im on the last stretch of cleaning up my mess and adding a second mainline 23:19:09 <Stablean> <Djanxy> after that, it's likely an upgrade to SLUGS 23:25:00 <Stablean> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 23:28:44 <Stablean> *** titanic has left the game (leaving) 23:30:26 <Stablean> <travstr> good :p 23:30:32 <Stablean> <travstr> hey tran 23:57:39 <Stablean> <travstr> WHAT THE ACTUAL 23:58:09 <Stablean> <bon> ? 23:59:28 <Stablean> <travstr> SIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh 23:59:54 <Stablean> <happy tran sport> hi all how things going