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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 23rd October 2013:
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00:04:00  <Stablean> <Anson> lost half a tooth, and whatever is left from the nerve now cuts my head :-(
00:04:10  <Stablean> <sturmi> ouch
00:04:12  <Stablean> <travstr> wah :(
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00:07:08  <|sturmi|> good night
00:07:16  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> gn  and thanks
00:07:58  <Stablean> <Anson> we should have mfb in our team ... then we would already be done with three bbhs :-)
00:10:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  ok
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00:11:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> eney  way   i think we  lev  this   now  and  wate  in till  to mor
00:11:34  <Stablean> <Anson> if we want a real ML, we should do temporary connections for mines and build the ML as straight as possible
00:12:00  <Stablean> <Anson> eg no bridges on ML
00:12:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
00:13:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok   i am  of to  bed  now  ok  be back to mor
00:13:52  <Stablean> <travstr> bb
00:18:54  <Stablean> <Anson> doesn't hurt with those slow trains when access to mines has tight curves now ... more important to build double ML to be straight ans fast, and later attack the mines to a real SL
00:27:18  <Stablean> <bon> back now
00:27:22  <Stablean> <travstr> wbb
00:28:16  <Stablean> <bon> heh geeze someone need to update the NUTS version or something one day...
00:28:34  <Stablean> <bon> I forgot the INTERCITY steam have one iffy runcost
00:30:08  <Stablean> <travstr> :p
00:30:28  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe...and I see my cargo unit somehow is creeping toward blue's ... crazy .. I mean I don't even have much trains running yet :-s
00:30:35  <Stablean> <bon> must be my passengers indeed!
00:30:53  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i'm gonna start pax soon.
00:31:56  <Stablean> <bon> then after fixing my minor local trains...I'll have to start the next freight line .. maybe even do the one I was thinking of with the heavy loco
00:31:59  <Stablean> <bon> but ehhh we'll see :)
00:32:17  <Stablean> <travstr> are you using local or intercity for that island?
00:32:27  <Stablean> <travstr> local i assume
00:32:37  <Stablean> <bon> I'm always using LOCAL except for the gold train being INTERCITY for a good reason :)
00:33:03  <Stablean> <travstr> sounds good.
00:33:17  <Stablean> <travstr> bon can you pls look at my station
00:33:19  <Stablean> <bon> yeah beside the LOCAL have almost instant station times which somewhat is nicer to me
00:33:21  <Stablean> <bon> but to our own
00:33:23  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not sure if it's good
00:33:25  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...sure..just one sec
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00:33:48  <Stablean> <travstr> ;o
00:36:12  <Stablean> <bon> there...smoothed out my 2nd rte for later faster trains....
00:36:16  <Stablean> <bon> now about your station...
00:36:18  <Stablean> <travstr> good good
00:36:21  <Stablean> <travstr> i will sign it
00:36:39  <Stablean> <travstr> gondington
00:37:02  <Stablean> <bon> hmm what did you want to do?
00:37:17  <Stablean> <travstr> well originally i was gonan have two bridges on the right
00:37:43  <Stablean> <travstr> then i see the space to the left and use that instead, but now i'm thinking i'll move the station (valley) to the right
00:37:53  <Stablean> <travstr> and get rid of the bridges and just have two tracks on the left
00:39:39  <Stablean> <bon> not sure what to tell you
00:39:41  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
00:42:43  <Stablean> <travstr> there
00:42:45  <Stablean> <travstr> :>
00:45:47  <Stablean> <bon> ok ... thats all the touchups done (or whatever its called heh) .. now for a new route
00:46:02  <Stablean> <travstr> touchups indeed lol
00:46:21  <Stablean> <bon> made a silly sign too :P
00:46:35  <Stablean> <travstr> lol haha
00:46:46  <Stablean> <bon> he's getting too near...period.....in a humorful way :)
00:46:56  <Stablean> <travstr> lol yeh
00:47:06  <Stablean> <bon> and I see he's still not doing anything other than coals too :)
00:47:12  <Stablean> <travstr> he annoyed me because he took a mine that was really close to my line
00:47:14  <Stablean> <travstr> like next to it
00:47:37  <Stablean> <travstr> but I won't argue
00:47:43  <Stablean> <travstr> not this time :>
00:47:57  <Stablean> <bon> btw you going to chonwood yet? :)
00:47:59  <Stablean> <bon> or did you forget?
00:48:05  <Stablean> <travstr> um where
00:48:15  <Stablean> <bon> check your station list for a Chonwood you'll see
00:48:29  <Stablean> <travstr> ohhh
00:48:31  <Stablean> <travstr> um
00:48:37  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm not sure if it's wise
00:48:47  <Stablean> <travstr> i mainly took it because happy took mine lol
00:48:49  <Stablean> <bon> yeah you'll have to parallel happy's tracks due to the body of waters
00:49:01  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess...
00:49:07  <Stablean> <travstr> i could run it easily
00:49:29  <Stablean> <travstr> besides I love a challenge :p
00:49:32  <Stablean> <bon> heh?
00:49:58  <Stablean> <travstr> getting my line to meet with this chonwood place
00:50:00  <Stablean> <travstr> i mean
00:51:23  <Stablean> <travstr> omg its so far ._.
00:53:41  <Stablean> <bon> whats with that 'wth?' sign anson?
00:56:48  <Stablean> <travstr> o wet rails time
00:57:02  <Stablean> <bon> not me but .. have fun if you do :P  just don't forget to finish your existing steam rails first
00:57:04  <Stablean> <bon> :)
00:57:11  <Stablean> <travstr> nah
00:57:17  <Stablean> <travstr> don't want wet
00:57:23  <Stablean> <travstr> i probably can't use it properly lol
00:58:18  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Im McHammer
00:58:22  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Im 2 legit 2 quit
00:58:25  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
00:58:25  <Stablean> <Big Meech> when its hammer time
00:58:29  <Stablean> <Anson> i like wet ... too bad that the latest versions of nuts/purr give a penalty when using wet trains on non-wet rails :-(
00:58:31  <Stablean> <Big Meech> im pulling out the stick
00:58:34  <Stablean> <bon> mm meech?
00:58:40  <Stablean> <Big Meech> she talk dirty
00:58:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> but her mouth clean
00:58:46  <Stablean> <bon> anson thats because you're supposed to use the water tile :)
00:58:48  <Stablean> <travstr> well anson it makes sense
01:00:47  <Stablean> <Anson> yes, it makes sense ... and it would also make sense when all other trains would get a penalty, or how are magnetic trains supoposed to drive on the same rails as steam engines ?
01:01:37  <Stablean> <Anson> the first old universal rail grfs had limits, and V added universal rail to nuts, without any limits besides the price
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01:20:36  <Stablean> <bon> well..I got limited to 12 tiles but ehhh...first train's running now
01:20:42  <Stablean> <bon> will add a feeder or two to it soon :)
01:20:44  <Stablean> <travstr> good good
01:21:02  <Stablean> <bon> wonder when the electric one will come out for a small speed boost but eh :)
01:21:16  <Stablean> <travstr> hmm ye
01:23:54  <happy_> i think the ferst  electric  tran  cums out 1965 i think
01:24:08  <Stablean> <bon> mm well I'm ok with 72kph for now anyway :)
01:24:12  <Stablean> <bon> not in any rush with wheats :)
01:24:14  <Stablean> <travstr> slowww
01:24:20  <Stablean> <travstr> use 100kph or 115kph
01:24:22  <Stablean> <travstr> hehe
01:24:28  <Stablean> <bon> travstr..but it'll haul just about everything except the kitchen sink .. even up the mountains
01:24:31  <Stablean> <bon> so....there :P
01:24:41  <Stablean> <travstr> o how many tiles are your trains?
01:24:48  <Stablean> <bon> 11  atm .. station limit is 12 tho
01:24:56  <Stablean> <bon> I'll get a capacity boost with the 2nd gen wagons anyway
01:24:58  <Stablean> <travstr> LOL
01:25:04  <Stablean> <travstr> LOLLLLLLLLLL
01:25:08  <Stablean> <bon> hm?
01:25:19  <Stablean> <travstr> 11
01:25:29  <Stablean> <travstr> why not break it down to two 5's or 6's
01:25:41  <Stablean> <bon> because thats not helping the loco :)
01:25:48  <Stablean> <travstr> also you might want signals more often
01:25:59  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...no need to...infrequent heavy trains ;)
01:26:01  <Stablean> <travstr> cause if you have the slow trains slowing down often it won't help
01:26:08  <Stablean> <travstr> if you ever get more you'll need it lol
01:26:14  <Stablean> <bon> nope doubt that
01:26:28  <Stablean> <travstr> lol okay
01:26:36  <Stablean> <travstr> also why is this one half empty lol
01:26:38  <Stablean> <travstr> train 16
01:27:06  <Stablean> <bon> left it go early to ensure it'll get to food plant to "reserve" its ownership....or in another word: to avoid it disappearing from lack of service from adjacent station
01:27:28  <Stablean> <bon> did the same thing for the coal train before
01:27:43  <Stablean> <travstr> ah ye
01:27:45  <Stablean> <travstr> okay
01:27:52  <happy_> how is my coal net werk going  anson
01:28:54  <Stablean> <bon> going balance out the number of heavy trains then perhaps start adding one feeder route....fun :)
01:29:28  <Stablean> <travstr> fun indeed
01:29:46  <Stablean> <bon> and what about YOU and your overextending-as-usual days? hehehe
01:29:57  <Stablean> <travstr> what do you mean lol
01:30:05  <Stablean> <bon> :P
01:30:19  <Stablean> <travstr> oh do you men
01:30:25  <Stablean> <travstr> me putting stations really far
01:30:27  <Stablean> <travstr> for no reason
01:30:41  <Stablean> <bon> that too
01:30:55  <Stablean> <travstr> so what else did you mean lol
01:31:49  <Stablean> <bon> ummm? :P
01:31:51  <Stablean> <bon> heheheh
01:31:57  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
01:33:10  <happy_> bon  can u doo me  a faver  can just chek  if my trans ar stil going
01:33:38  <Stablean> <travstr> they are
01:34:16  <happy_> ok thanks
01:34:27  <Stablean> <travstr> bon btw you could have just added two fast engines
01:34:33  <Stablean> <travstr> or mediums
01:34:39  <Stablean> <travstr> instead of using a slow train lol
01:34:43  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...they'll have to run 3-5 locos per train to match tho
01:34:49  <Stablean> <bon> and thats...well I dunno...less space for wagons
01:34:59  <Stablean> <bon> but to our own ;)
01:35:25  <Stablean> <travstr> I guess
01:35:27  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
01:35:38  <Stablean> <Anson> i have attached the ends of the double ML, as far as it goes, and also made it a little longer
01:35:53  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...and beside btw the later SUPERSTRONG class does break 100kph
01:36:03  <Stablean> <travstr> oh wow 100kph
01:36:05  <Stablean> <bon> but thats too early to plan for yet
01:36:05  <Stablean> <travstr> so fastfast
01:36:08  <Stablean> <travstr> ;)
01:36:12  <Stablean> <Anson> next year, we should get a new faster train (level3) and can switch from 1 to 3 ... no sense in doing level 2 now
01:36:26  <Stablean> <bon> well 100kph superstrong is when 150+kph strong/medium comes out tho
01:36:36  <Stablean> <travstr> so use two of those
01:36:36  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
01:36:41  <happy_> i will ok  nice
01:36:48  <Stablean> <bon> you're just not getting it travstr...just WAIT!
01:36:48  <Stablean> <bon> :p
01:36:55  <Stablean> <travstr> hahahaha
01:37:30  <Stablean> <bon> anson I'm still waiting to see the 3rd or 4th generation MEDIUM to see if they're just as strong as a 2nd generation STRONG ... I forgot the specs now
01:37:36  <Stablean> <bon> ^_^
01:39:34  <Stablean> <travstr> don't wait
01:39:36  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
01:39:50  <Stablean> <bon> yes you have to...its not due for many years yet :P
01:40:13  <Stablean> <travstr> choose something better then :p
01:40:19  <Stablean> <bon> nope
01:40:22  <Stablean> <Anson> start a new offline game in the year 2100 and you can see all trains :-)
01:40:36  <Stablean> <bon> anson haha..I'll rather wait till later or tomorrow morning :)
01:41:26  <Stablean> <travstr> finally connected one of my far mines
01:41:32  <Stablean> <travstr> :'>>>>>>>
01:43:33  <Stablean> <bon> going try a bit funny little fast wheat train now :)
01:44:01  <happy_> anson   if u  doo.me sume sign on the net werk i will fixs them in the morning
01:44:41  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...and I did another of these bridge-ramps-only thing again ;)
01:44:59  <Stablean> <travstr> haha i had a few of them :>
01:45:54  <Stablean> <bon> check train 20
01:46:04  <Stablean> <Anson> I am just adding overflows to the remaining mines so that they won't jam no matter how long the queues become after replacing ...
01:46:04  <Stablean> <bon> small but ... mmm fast so maybe only need a single train will see soon :P
01:46:11  <Stablean> <travstr> betterrr
01:46:25  <Stablean> <bon> only because its a short train with a tiny payload
01:46:25  <Stablean> <bon> :)
01:46:37  <Stablean> <travstr> hmmm
01:46:37  <happy_> ok
01:46:53  <Stablean> <travstr> don't forget that time cargo is held counts against money
01:47:01  <Stablean> <travstr> so slower trains aren't great ;)
01:47:17  <Stablean> <bon> hmmmm.... it only gets to like 120-130kph....
01:47:23  <Stablean> <bon> lets see about return trip
01:47:46  <Stablean> <bon> ehh not worth it
01:47:52  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
01:51:40  <Stablean> <bon> one sunshine loco will do just fine on the transfer run anyway ;)
01:54:27  <Stablean> <bon> heh I think the long line is almost so unused I could chop it back to 1 track for a long length but meh .. I'll leave it double for future additional traffics :P
01:54:55  <Stablean> <travstr> haha
01:59:36  <happy_> anson word the overflo make the trans go.to won pike up when u replac the trans
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02:09:15  <happy__> will that was werd
02:09:22  <Stablean> <bon> hm?
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02:10:48  <happy__> on  the  stable irc  it say that the server has chanch the name ?
02:11:22  <Stablean> <bon> no idea
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02:14:04  <Stablean> <bon> well since I'm going to bed in a moment lets do one thing with the cash I have left now...
02:15:18  <Stablean> <bon> huh...a plant shutted down...and to think it was squeezing me a bit before
02:15:20  <Stablean> <bon> silly timing
02:15:43  <Stablean> <bon> oh well curves are ok there so not going care :)
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02:18:18  <Stablean> <bon> there..I'm done and heh...that left me with not so much now :D
02:18:36  <Stablean> <bon> will probably have a lot of $ tomorrow morning tho naturally
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02:19:53  <happy__> anson  have u replace the trans yet
02:20:08  <Stablean> <bon> anyway zz now already :-s
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02:20:46  <happy__> hi big neech
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02:20:52  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wooooooooooo
02:21:20  <happy__> how things
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02:25:46  <Stablean> <Anson> just finished converting all stations ... takes a while longer when it is done with running trains than if it would be done right while building the net first
02:26:18  <Stablean> <Anson> had to move quite a few stations since they had rails on the opposite sides etc
02:26:40  <happy__> ok.
02:26:58  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: it would be good to always build LR, and not RL, or even worse, half the tracks LR and the other half RL
02:28:34  <happy__> yep
02:32:08  <Stablean> <Anson> for autoreplacing, i added depots after the roro drop ...
02:32:33  <Stablean> <Anson> and to avoid trains going to those depots too early (visible depots), i am editing orders now
02:33:23  <Stablean> <Anson> when trains have any "goto depot" order, they never will go to a depot by themselves ... and i add those orders right after unloading when they are next to the replace-depots
02:33:50  <Stablean> <Anson> thus auto-replacing might take a little longer, but will happen in a more organized way
02:34:31  <happy__> when.i start a game a  all ways doo drive on the  lef but i.can not doo all net on the lef
02:34:48  <happy__> yep
02:34:56  <Stablean> <Anson> if you really try, you can
02:35:03  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe ... yes, you can :-)
02:36:26  <happy__> i am tring but for get sume tims  wich  drive i was  doing in.the ferst place
02:37:55  <happy__> so thats y  my.net. werk has got.2 drive
02:41:22  <happy__> i mite  john the  uver server soon just to see all  800.trans he he
02:44:39  <happy__> howw is  bbh going
02:45:52  <Stablean> <Anson> did you know that some train(s) didn't have shared orders ?
02:46:33  <happy__> ar i for got to doo them
02:47:57  <happy__> yes i did no bout the shared orders
02:48:46  <happy__> i fort to  doo shared orders on sume trans
02:49:38  <happy__> but most ov them shord have shared orders
02:52:24  <happy__> so what new trans ar u going to.pike for the    replace
02:58:02  <Stablean> <Anson> most = more than 50% ? :-) yes ...
02:58:44  <Stablean> <Anson> all except one had shared orders, but several stations had more than one group of shared orders ...
02:59:18  <Stablean> <Anson> 1+5 trains, 3+6 trains, 4+5 trains, ....
02:59:39  <happy__> ok
03:07:47  <Stablean> <Anson> 113 trains checked, 15 groups created for shared orders, 4 groups deleted/merged
03:08:22  <Stablean> <Anson> nor replacing Educated Horses by Zombie Slam ....
03:08:46  <happy__> nice
03:10:14  <Stablean> <Anson> 113 trains times 2 engines ... 113 x 200k DM
03:10:52  <Stablean> <Anson> only 20-25 millions :-)
03:11:51  <happy__> ok   we shord have a nufe to doo that
03:15:18  <Stablean> <Anson> we had 140 mio at the start ... now half is done and we have 135
03:17:08  <happy__> ok  dont spend eney mor arfter the trans replace
03:18:33  <happy__> let the muney cume back up for a bit  and then u.can spend a bit
03:22:04  <Stablean> <Anson> 90% done now ... and still 135 cash :-)
03:22:43  <happy__> nice
03:22:46  <Stablean> <Anson> income 10M per year
03:23:12  <happy__> thats good
03:25:36  <happy__> ok  now be for we ade eney mor tran the drop of mite need redoing.or doo u.thinke  it.mite be ok.
03:26:34  <Stablean> <Anson> 1 more train ...
03:26:56  <happy__> yer
03:27:51  <Stablean> <Anson> the ML is doubled from BBH to drop and back
03:28:09  <Stablean> <Anson> maybe 75% full now
03:28:15  <happy__> ok
03:29:06  <Stablean> <Anson> might only need one more platform for long loading times, but not a third rail yet :-)
03:29:50  <happy__> i see
03:30:26  <Stablean> <Anson> i think the next things to do are: check stations for too few or too many trains, continue doubling the ML (or rather creating a ML), then creating some SL, and attaching stations to those SL instead of temp connections with the ML
03:31:16  <Stablean> <Anson> replacement done ... and we are already back to 141 :-)
03:32:03  <Stablean> <Anson> and we are still using 1st gen wagons ... lines will not get much fuller since 2nd gen can transport a lot more
03:32:29  <happy__> yep
03:34:49  <happy__> ok  doubling the ml and then we can.start ade mor coal mins or.trans
03:46:14  <happy__> so  is the  net werk ruing ok
03:48:00  <happy__> no tran q eny wher on the net werk
03:53:11  <Stablean> <Anson> built a new ML across the mountains, almost with no TF
03:54:00  <happy__> nice
03:54:09  <Stablean> <Anson> trains are wide spread across the net ... most busy part is between BBH and drop (hehe, where else ?) :-)
03:55:09  <happy__> yep
04:00:22  <happy__> ok  i be back   later i got to get sume slep  be back on the irc at 8 am  thats in uk time ok bb
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04:02:56  <Stablean> <Anson> ouch ... a small land bridge between two parts of water, with width 3 only ... TF of one water tile would be 320M :-(
04:03:10  <Stablean> <Anson> but can be done with a bridge too
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04:35:54  <Stablean> <Anson> travstr, where do you want to go ? shall i "level" the lanes to enable building tunnels/bridges easier ?
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04:50:44  <Stablean> <Big Meech> wooo playboy!
04:50:59  <Sylf> !rcon set pause_on_connect
04:50:59  <Stablean> Sylf: 'pause_on_connect' is an unknown setting.
04:51:12  <BiG_MEECH> xD
04:51:21  <BiG_MEECH> unknown setting :D
04:51:33  <Stablean> <Big Meech> top secret command not supported :P
04:51:50  <Sylf> !rcon set pause_on_join
04:51:50  <Stablean> Sylf: Current value for 'pause_on_join' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
04:51:53  <Sylf> !rcon set pause_on_join 0
04:52:04  <Stablean> <Anson> why did you want to change it ? or only check ?
04:52:23  <Sylf> because it doesn't matter for most people
04:52:29  <BiG_MEECH> just me
04:52:31  <Sylf> especially toward the beginning of the game
04:52:37  <BiG_MEECH> with my lame ass connection
04:52:42  <Sylf> it only annoys the players who are already connected
04:52:49  <Sylf> it doesn't help ANYone with bad connections
04:53:03  <Stablean> <Big Meech> :(
04:53:04  <Sylf> it only helps players with slower PC AND bad connections
04:53:15  <Stablean> <Big Meech> Yay!
04:53:15  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't mind ... it is more annoying to see lots of players trying to connect 5-10 times in a row
04:53:23  <Stablean> <Big Meech> turd PC and turd connection :D
04:54:22  <Sylf> pause on connect only helps when the players' PC is too slow to do the catch-up work between the time the client initiate the connection and after they establish the connection
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04:56:30  <Stablean> <Big Meech> yo!
04:56:37  <Stablean> <Sylf> see, that's how it's supposed to be
04:56:55  <Stablean> <Big Meech> i hardly noticed it :D
04:57:02  <Stablean> <Sylf> exactly
04:57:20  <Stablean> <Anson> it also helps with processing the map !?
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05:01:12  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, speaking of bad connections :-) :-(
05:02:38  <BiG_MEECH> I'm Big meech of bad connections xD
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09:58:18  <V453000> hy
09:58:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
09:58:30  <V453000> how iz ye dutch
09:58:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i speak it very well
09:59:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> how is it with you?
09:59:38  <V453000> asdf
09:59:40  <V453000> yeah meh busy :)
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09:59:46  <Stablean> <bon> hi vinnie
09:59:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
10:00:47  <V453000> go see new ships Vinnie :)
10:00:47  <V453000> !date
10:00:47  <Stablean> V453000: 10 Jun 1971
10:02:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> they are long :P
10:02:08  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie btw have you played with NUTS before?
10:02:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> a little
10:02:25  <V453000> bon Vinnie is a coop member
10:02:25  <V453000> fyi
10:02:35  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie mm just letting you know if you somehow hadn't....
10:03:09  <Stablean> <bon> rail versus erail really makes no difference.. the electric locos can run on standard rails too...just they will look weird with the pantograph on the roof touching no wires tho :)
10:03:26  <V453000> uhm no?
10:03:43  <V453000> ELRL trains should not be able to drive on non-electrified
10:03:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lets check
10:03:54  <V453000> if they can, it could be wrongly defined in either nuts or purr
10:04:00  <V453000> both do overwrite those things
10:04:06  <Stablean> <bon> oh
10:04:17  <V453000> regardless, it is probably not a big deal :P
10:04:19  <Stablean> <bon> I had thought that was intentional for the sake of simplification
10:04:37  <Stablean> <bon> I've had the electric LOCAL trains under no wires several many times
10:04:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Strong engine (Guilty as Sin can indeed run on non electric tracks
10:04:57  <V453000> I didnt do it intentionally, but I cant say I dislike it XD
10:05:02  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I guess thats yet one more 'bug' for you to look after? :)
10:05:04  <Stablean> <bon> :P
10:05:24  <V453000> looking for unelectrified tracks is one of the stupid pains
10:05:27  <V453000> soo yeah meh
10:05:30  <V453000> idk if I will fix that
10:05:41  <V453000> it kind of defeats the purpose of electrifying but hm
10:05:47  <Stablean> <bon> mm yeah
10:05:54  <V453000> use purr anyway XD
10:06:04  <Stablean> <bon> heh? :P
10:06:17  <V453000> purr > all
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10:06:21  <V453000> xcept wetrail :)
10:07:52  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 so how're you anyway? and you vinnie?
10:08:26  <Stablean> <Vinnie> just fine, thinking about stuff whilst playing
10:08:32  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:08:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> and you?
10:09:00  <V453000> im busy as hell but quite good
10:09:07  <V453000> not much time for NUTS, but it is progressing :) slowly but surely
10:09:29  <Stablean> <bon> just got up a while ago so not much atm...some more ottd time aside to looking a bit at computer parts
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10:14:01  <V453000> pfft computer parts
10:14:03  <V453000> I read arts
10:14:06  <V453000> pfft
10:14:12  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 well I need to pick up something :P
10:16:52  <Stablean> <bon> heh as I had suspected...one coal mine is close to breaking 500 tonnes
10:17:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> time to steal
10:17:10  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie hm?
10:20:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> your station names, my dirty mind goes wild at Brown bank and Brown farm
10:20:18  <Stablean> <bon> heh? :)
10:20:33  <Stablean> <bon> I just decided on adding 'brown' to the names to avoid station namelist clash
10:20:33  <V453000> Vinnie the anal monster
10:20:41  <Stablean> <bon> brown as in nut color :P
10:20:46  <V453000> ogm
10:20:48  <V453000> omg :)
10:20:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i never said anal
10:21:00  <V453000> things which come from there are brown
10:21:02  <V453000> your argument is invalid
10:21:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i just imagined a bank with used toilets instead of cash
10:21:15  <V453000> :d
10:21:50  <V453000> well there are already e.g. blood or sperm banks so it is only a question when people come to realize how to make shit useful
10:21:53  <V453000> then there can be shitbanks
10:22:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> fertilizer
10:22:08  <V453000> see, done
10:22:13  <V453000> you can go establish shitbank corporation
10:22:25  <V453000> you shall be rich and famous, I promise
10:22:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> company slogan: Sell your shit
10:22:39  <V453000> why shit for free?
10:22:54  <V453000> or Get paid for the thing you do best.
10:23:15  <V453000> marketing would be our strong part in this industry :D
10:23:34  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i dont know
10:23:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> advertising rules might limit what we can show on posters
10:23:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> or tv
10:24:09  <V453000> pfft
10:24:13  <V453000> tv and posters are dead
10:24:20  <V453000> public toilets and internet are the shit
10:26:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> imagine you are surfing on the internet and a pop-up shows up with  some of the products we will buy
10:26:43  <V453000> sure, its perfect
10:26:47  <V453000> it doesnt need to look explicit
10:27:03  <V453000> after all, the retarded political advertisements are generally a lot worse
10:27:13  <V453000> not to mention the pop songs and stuff seen everywhere else
10:27:19  <Stablean> <bon> btw v453000 if I haven't mentioned it already I like your idea of the LOCAL class trains
10:27:28  <V453000> nice, thanks :D
10:27:43  <Stablean> <bon> they almost seem like real life subways as in that they can crush 300 passengers in one second then whish off :)
10:27:52  <V453000> .....................................
10:27:55  <Stablean> <bon> ofc the tradeoff is the slow speeds but thats natural right?
10:27:55  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:27:57  <V453000> like real life
10:27:59  <V453000> I go kill myself
10:28:09  <Stablean> <bon> I said 'like' not 'same' eh?
10:28:11  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wait
10:28:16  <V453000> any relation is entirely broken
10:28:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> whats your plan to do it?
10:28:35  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 says the nutty person? :)  (or even the nutty player at same time too?)
10:28:37  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:28:40  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie...plan?
10:29:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> plan to kill himself. It could be done in such a way you can earn a darwin award
10:29:10  <Stablean> <bon> I doubt he really was meaning that?
10:29:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i think he is off
10:32:24  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie...just a free thought but you have a factory just to the right of Sonwood Woods if you want add a steel route to go there? its your pick naturally
10:33:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thanks ill think about it
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10:38:53  <Stablean> <bon> hi travstr
10:39:03  <Stablean> <travstr> hey :p
10:39:13  <Stablean> <bon> you better get to work otherwise all red lines will be below brown line eh? ;)
10:39:15  <Stablean> <bon> hehehehe
10:39:37  <Stablean> <travstr> lolll
10:39:43  <Stablean> <bon> btw check the cargo chart tho...just a simple wagon upgrade plus better LOCAL trains made the chart break the roof :-s
10:40:05  <Stablean> <bon> and I'm planning a 3rd pax route soon so ehhh...I may always be too high up in the cargo chart eh?
10:40:12  <Stablean> <travstr> o wow
10:40:58  <Stablean> <bon> and btw that one stubborn forest is still on the island but meh at least its not in the way of anyone's houses construction yet tho :)
10:41:20  <Stablean> <bon> I laid down the new roads just a moment ago..had to bulldoze 3 houses as they were in the way of new intersections
10:41:22  <Stablean> <travstr> your cities are really growing lol
10:41:32  <Stablean> <travstr> i need to get pax asap lol
10:41:34  <Stablean> <bon> not sure if town could grow that far enough to the other empty tip of island but we'll just see
10:43:45  <Stablean> <bon> travstr oh and I had to kill my one transfer farm as its production was failing...but at least the two main farms are still good enough alone tho
10:44:12  <Stablean> <travstr> lol yeah
10:44:34  <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah and I replaced the coal train with MEDIUM locos since they just about had enough tractive
10:44:36  <Stablean> <bon> :)
10:44:46  <Stablean> <travstr> woooooooooo
10:44:53  <Stablean> <bon> 3rd gen wagons will have to wait yet tho :)
10:46:07  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...are you using two company colors?
10:46:13  <Stablean> <travstr> yes
10:46:23  <Stablean> <bon> heh ok had to wonder re your two-stripes coal trains :P
10:46:31  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
10:46:32  <Taede> !clients
10:46:37  <Stablean> <bon> hmm...I should see if I want to color something too...
10:46:54  <Taede> !players
10:46:56  <Stablean> Taede: Client 66 is Vinnie, a spectator
10:46:56  <Stablean> Taede: Client 73 (Red) is travstr, in company 3 (travstr's trains three)
10:46:56  <Stablean> Taede: Client 70 (Brown) is bon, in company 1 (Acorn-y)
10:46:57  <Stablean> Taede: Client 33 is Anson, a spectator
10:49:09  <Stablean> <bon> nah I'll pass...the express cars are lumped in with freights so it looks a little strange
10:53:00  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...so mm just having a bit fun now..but did you noticed I used purr for cargo types? :P
10:53:23  <Stablean> <bon> yellow as in gold (heh) .. green for greenies aka wheat .. and gray kinda matches coal :P
10:53:38  <Stablean> <travstr> good idea @p
10:54:10  <Stablean> <bon> soon I'll add some new trains anyway
10:54:16  <Stablean> <bon> I sold off two thanks to upgrades tho
10:54:46  <Stablean> <travstr> okay
10:55:12  <Stablean> <bon> yeah...its kinda natural isn't it?
10:55:26  <Stablean> <travstr> yeyeye
10:55:28  <Stablean> <bon> 90kph loco with 1st gen wagon >> fewer 155kph loco with 2nd gen wagon
10:55:30  <Stablean> <bon> heh
10:56:32  <Taede> !playercount
10:56:32  <Stablean> Taede: Number of players: 4 (2 spectators)
10:56:44  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...btw not sure where you thinking now but you always could tru use Dubourne Bridge to Munfingburg ... easy LOCAL train line there
10:56:56  <Stablean> <bon> ofc it'll be funny to watch the 2nd town grow around the tunnels but eh :)
10:57:14  <Stablean> <travstr> haha
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10:57:32  <Stablean> <bon> wb vinnie
10:57:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
10:57:45  <Stablean> <travstr> hello
11:01:29  <Stablean> <travstr> bon why your sign lol
11:01:52  <Stablean> <bon> I think thats one silly "hump" .. plain and simple? :)
11:02:00  <Stablean> <travstr> i agree lol
11:07:43  <Stablean> <bon> its bit funny tho...I put almost all my money down in using purrail early on ... and ehh ... kinda paid off now with lot of money .. go figure!
11:08:01  <Stablean> <bon> neverminding spending almost all of it before bedtime to convert the freights too ;)
11:08:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> how does it pay off?
11:08:04  <Stablean> <travstr> haha ye
11:08:18  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie...well...its not bad...and I can autoreplace trains to monorail/etc without worrying? ;)
11:08:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oh, like that
11:09:28  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie..yeah the only big limit I know of afaik is WET ships run 'like craps!' on anything thats not WET rail but ... ehh .. duh :)
11:13:39  <Stablean> <bon> I guess once again I'll have one train with red profits for a few years but ehhh....doesn't bother me :)
11:18:42  <Stablean> <travstr> well bon...
11:18:48  <Stablean> <travstr> looks like my lines crosed yours x)
11:18:54  <Stablean> <bon> where?
11:19:00  <Stablean> <travstr> op profit
11:19:18  <Stablean> <bon> oh heh I was thinking "red you are way too far from even my wheats"
11:19:20  <Stablean> <bon> :P
11:23:03  <Stablean> <travstr> time for more pax woo
11:23:41  <Stablean> <bon> well travstr...
11:23:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> signal mayhem :D
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11:24:26  <Stablean> <V453000> heyo
11:24:26  <Stablean> <bon> theres always Binningwell Ridge .. some space for station on the bit of flat lands
11:24:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
11:24:31  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
11:24:33  <Stablean> <bon> hi v453000 :)
11:24:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i suppose bon
11:24:45  <Stablean> <travstr> hm tho
11:25:11  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 so the one little twin-towns islands I spotted early on ... I've finished laying fresh new roads a hour ago .. can't wait to see if it actually blankets the entire island :-D
11:25:13  <Stablean> <travstr> atm i'm doing fonthill city > munfingburg
11:25:19  <Stablean> <V453000> meh?
11:25:25  <Stablean> <travstr> now i might gofor fonthill > ginston
11:25:33  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 one of the two towns is Breninghead
11:25:39  <Stablean> <V453000> I know I see it
11:25:41  <Stablean> <V453000> meh :)
11:25:43  <Stablean> <bon> and the station being #1 says something about having been there early
11:25:45  <Stablean> <bon> ah heh :)
11:25:59  <Stablean> <V453000> Vinnie has no ships
11:26:02  <Stablean> <V453000> stone him to death
11:26:12  <Stablean> <bon> I'm just personally waiting to see if anyone can bother upping my almost-10K populations but heh ... this is just a game tho :)
11:26:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 10k is easy
11:26:39  <Stablean> <V453000> 2-3 millions is maximum
11:26:41  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie...I meant relatively speaking ;)
11:26:51  <Stablean> <bon> town directory shows nothing above 3000 that isn't me yet :)
11:27:05  <Stablean> <bon> but travstr might get there tho
11:27:13  <Stablean> <bon> heh
11:27:24  <Stablean> <bon> v453000 I could make some ships if you want sir :P
11:31:31  <Stablean> <bon> hmm perhaps not now...don't see any good short freights around here atm
11:34:26  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...btw maybe if you did some food trains you could grow your towns faster all year round
11:34:45  <Stablean> <travstr> mehhhh
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11:34:53  <Stablean> <bon> check the town window now..it says it requires it anyway
11:34:56  <Stablean> <travstr> maybe
11:35:03  <Stablean> <travstr> not for all towns
11:35:05  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
11:35:28  <Stablean> <bon> you have 72 livestocks near Hondingville for one :)
11:35:34  <Stablean> <bon> oh...81 now heh
11:35:41  <Stablean> <bon> so mm yeah ;)
11:41:28  <Stablean> <travstr> oo my performance went up ;)
11:45:54  <Stablean> <bon> there...now I have a monorail finally :)
11:48:50  <Stablean> <bon> its funny tho...looks like fat boxy animals are riding it ;)
11:51:29  <V453000> :|
11:51:36  <Stablean> <bon> heh what?
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11:52:15  <happy_> hi  all
11:52:18  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy
11:52:24  <Stablean> <travstr> hey happy
11:52:26  <Stablean> <bon> theres a LOT of signs for you from anson
11:52:26  <happy_> how  things
11:52:28  <Stablean> <bon> :)
11:52:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Hello
11:52:42  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah lol
11:52:48  <Stablean> <travstr> good good how about you happy
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11:53:41  <Stablean> <travstr> yay
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11:54:22  <Stablean> <paraszt> hi
11:54:26  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
11:54:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things  vinnie
11:55:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Good, and with you?
11:55:12  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good
11:55:18  <Stablean> <bon> travstr..if you can work a bit fastr than happy I'm sure you will be moving more cargos than he is ;)
11:55:29  <Stablean> <bon> as for if anyone can top me...well....I'll not comment ;)
11:55:47  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
11:58:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok   i am readin  the  sign  that anson  has lef  me
11:58:56  <Stablean> <bon> :)
11:59:02  <Stablean> <bon> I left two humorful ones too :p
12:01:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok   so    i got to doo  3  slh on my net werk
12:01:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> or you could just grab a beer and watch the game
12:01:46  <Stablean> <bon> heh?
12:04:53  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> vinnnie have  u got a minte
12:04:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sure
12:05:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> can  u help  me    to doo  sume slh
12:05:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah sure
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12:06:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thats a new password :P
12:06:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
12:06:31  <Stablean> <bon> hey travstr why did your performance line dip before? :)
12:06:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> which one do you want to do first?
12:06:49  <Stablean> <travstr> probably income or cargo
12:06:52  <Stablean> <bon> mmm
12:06:56  <Stablean> <travstr> min income...
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12:07:08  <Stablean> <bon> well both of us seem to be going up at similar rate on other charts tho...excluding the cargo one ;)
12:07:10  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm trying to get the right amount of trains for my pax
12:07:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> see my sign say  this won
12:07:22  <Stablean> <travstr> lol showing off ;)
12:07:40  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...and you still have to do 40K delivered cargo yet.. thats worth up to 400 performance points
12:07:42  <Stablean> <bon> that may be why ;)
12:07:52  <Stablean> <travstr> nearly tho
12:07:54  <Stablean> <travstr> 32k
12:07:56  <Stablean> <bon> :)
12:08:06  <Stablean> <bon> I think mine 'broke' from too many passengers tho heh
12:08:12  <Stablean> <travstr> mmm
12:08:18  <Stablean> <bon> its showing 74K .. !
12:08:22  <Stablean> <travstr> o
12:09:04  <Stablean> <bon> btw this map seem a lot more fun to me finally...no more overflowing crap stations
12:09:15  <Stablean> <travstr> yeye
12:09:17  <Stablean> <bon> strangely the first coal mine is still not breaking 500 tonnes yet but mmm
12:09:19  <Stablean> <travstr> and SPACE
12:09:21  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh space
12:11:39  <Stablean> <bon> oh wait...
12:11:53  <Stablean> <bon> seem last few minutes both coal mines jumped to 612 ... heh
12:13:23  <Stablean> <bon> meh..fell to 544 both of them
12:13:29  <Stablean> <bon> I think they're wired together...not sure heh
12:13:35  <Stablean> <travstr> lol so random
12:13:49  <Stablean> <bon> no I meant..two mines fart apart...yet using same rates
12:13:55  <Stablean> <travstr> o
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12:15:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> one sec happy
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12:16:33  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
12:16:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hey
12:17:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hey
12:17:29  <Stablean> <bon> hi djanxy
12:17:39  <Stablean> <bon> why aren't you....on yet? just asking ofc :)
12:17:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> on ?
12:18:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  djanxy
12:18:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> djanxy   fill free  to john  me
12:19:00  <Stablean> <bon> well  I mean...a company? :)
12:19:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> been sleeping and working since the new map started :D
12:20:19  <Stablean> <bon> heh yeah well I was somehow lucky to catch the map on janurary 1920 for a change! :)
12:20:29  <Stablean> <bon> no more 1922-1923 starts
12:20:31  <V453000> you cant just sleep or work instead of playing openttd
12:20:31  <Stablean> <bon> :P
12:20:33  <V453000> doesnt make sense
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12:20:55  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
12:20:57  <Stablean> <bon> you are nutty v453000? :)
12:20:59  <Stablean> <bon> hi liuk
12:21:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
12:21:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thi
12:21:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> now im debating where to start since a few companies is trying to cover the whole map
12:21:17  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...one moment...
12:21:35  <Stablean> <bon> see sign
12:21:41  <Stablean> <bon> thats a large swatch area not used by anyone yet
12:21:43  <Stablean> <travstr> *disclaimer* i'm not trying to cover the map
12:22:05  <Stablean> <bon> but you can pick your own :)
12:22:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, likely where i'll go bon
12:22:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just makign a bite to eat etc
12:22:45  <Stablean> <Djanxy> before i start
12:22:47  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy..btw don't worry about crossing my yellow purrail .. its only a lazy gold route and I have no plan to do anything else there
12:22:57  <Stablean> <bon> so you can head to Trardinghead Cross if you wanted to bother
12:23:07  <Stablean> <bon> ok have fun eating
12:23:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> im sure we can sort out potential disputes :D
12:24:19  <Stablean> <bon> :
12:24:21  <Stablean> <bon> :)
12:24:39  <Stablean> <bon> as long as you stay away from my passengers at Manington ;)
12:24:50  <Stablean> <bon> (its close to my gold mine station anyway)
12:24:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy>  worry, i hate people :P
12:25:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont worry*
12:25:05  <Stablean> <bon> heh np :)
12:25:27  <Stablean> <bon> but anyway like I said...feel free to bridge over my gold rails as I don't have any real plans for it
12:25:31  <Stablean> <bon> :)
12:26:45  <Stablean> <travstr> brb
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12:28:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 3 out of 4 connections
12:29:41  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
12:30:43  <Stablean> <travstr> back woo
12:32:10  <Stablean> <bon> finally had to extend my coal trains a bit longer
12:32:16  <Stablean> <bon> thankfully station is still longer than it atm
12:32:18  <Stablean> <bon> :)
12:32:25  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
12:32:48  <Stablean> <bon> 837 tonnes ... eh :)
12:32:54  <Stablean> <travstr> lollll
12:33:04  <Stablean> <bon> *wonders why you laughing too much*
12:33:07  <Stablean> <bon> maybe you got too much dust
12:33:09  <Stablean> <bon> :)
12:33:15  <Stablean> <travstr> >;o
12:33:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> angeldust ?
12:33:31  <V453000> assdust
12:33:35  <Stablean> <bon> HEH?
12:33:38  <Stablean> <bon> or just plain black dust
12:33:40  <Stablean> <bon> :p
12:33:42  <Stablean> <travstr> lol cause that's a thing
12:33:42  <Stablean> <Djanxy> *cough*
12:34:04  <Stablean> <travstr> <.<
12:37:02  <Stablean> <Vinnie> SLH 02 is very easy happy, sure you don't want to do it yourself?
12:38:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> sturmi  was  doing  a bbh  so   u can  finsh    if u whont
12:39:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> was the BBH you have now strumi's work?
12:40:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  i was  doing it but he had to  go
12:40:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> he did good
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12:42:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> why do i always get pink :D
12:42:11  <Stablean> <bon> umm you're blue now? :)
12:42:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well yeah
12:42:19  <Stablean> <bon> heh
12:42:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dont wanna be pink
12:43:03  <V453000> gay
12:43:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> meet our racist
12:43:45  <Stablean> <travstr> thats not actually funny
12:43:50  <Stablean> <travstr> to the previous comment
12:44:34  <V453000> I am not racist
12:44:37  <V453000> I hate everyone
12:44:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> do you want an honest opinion about gays?
12:44:47  <V453000> yeah!
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12:44:53  <Stablean> <travstr> being gay isn't a race anyway lol
12:45:14  <V453000> discrimination is on the same level as racism :(
12:45:25  <Stablean> <travstr> but it isn't racism
12:45:28  <Stablean> <travstr> ergo
12:45:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> then call it discrimination
12:46:05  <Stablean> <travstr> so why say racism then
12:46:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its none of anyones business anyway
12:46:07  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
12:46:23  <V453000> k gas chambers for all the gypsies
12:46:26  <V453000> gogo
12:46:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or alternatively, all the czechs
12:47:00  <V453000> that doesnt make sense
12:47:05  <Stablean> <travstr> but skoda :(
12:47:06  <V453000> czechs are in gas chambers all day long
12:47:17  <V453000> xcept they drink beer and smoke there
12:47:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> then it makes perfect sense ?
12:48:39  <Stablean> <bon> hope my coal trains don't become "all extended out" eventually
12:48:41  <Stablean> <bon> :P
12:48:43  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe
12:49:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> the answer is MOAR trains
12:49:36  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...or 3rd gen wagons
12:49:40  <Stablean> <bon> more capacity in same length :)
12:49:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or that :D
12:49:56  <V453000> there is nevery a different answer than MOAR trains
12:50:00  <Stablean> <bon> I already went from 1st gen wagon with steam to now having slight extended 2nd gen wagons/loco
12:50:16  <Stablean> <bon> station still has one more tile left but we'll see about 3rd gen capacity first
12:50:18  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
12:53:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> someone just build me a factory ? :D
12:53:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> built*
12:53:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sign?
12:53:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> my factory died
12:53:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> only for a new to emerge
12:54:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> so suspected someone built it ;)
12:55:43  <Stablean> <bon> *grins* .. funny timing tho..  I was curious what you were up to ... look at rubber station .... nice.. follow line down .. and I'm like .. umm wtf again ... look at my excessive cash ... and thought ehhh why not? :p
12:56:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, so it WAS you :D
12:56:31  <Stablean> <bon> *pokes you*
12:56:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> this shit never fails to happen
12:56:37  <Stablean> <bon> now don't complain about no industries at your station
12:56:43  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy..its never happened to me
12:56:58  <Stablean> <bon> even the food plant was still there after a long trip
12:57:04  <Stablean> <bon> so mm dunno
12:57:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just bad luck i guess
12:57:18  <Stablean> <bon> maybe
12:57:58  <Stablean> <Djanxy> only factory in sight, so wanted to save it with a quick line - and still failed :D
12:58:48  <Stablean> <Djanxy> actually forgot i was gonna try with TL1 this game :D
12:59:34  <Stablean> <Djanxy> probably easier to manage in a firs game though
12:59:40  <Stablean> <bon> travstr... Fonhill City finally passed Lundstone .. you still have a long way to ever get it to 2nd spot at all tho :)
12:59:50  <Stablean> <travstr> oh haha nice
12:59:52  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...yeah I would love to have the stable industry outputs that is FIRS again :/
13:00:06  <Stablean> <bon> would let me finally play around with short trains and making the junctions for that
13:00:12  <Stablean> <bon> but ehh..this map seem somewhat ok for now
13:00:44  <Stablean> <bon> btw whats the meaning of "trains three"? :)
13:01:07  <Stablean> <Djanxy> he was trains two last game
13:01:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> so i smell a pttern
13:01:13  <Stablean> <bon> oh
13:01:29  <Stablean> <bon> well I'm brown and nut .. so that maybe make me an Acorn!
13:01:31  <Stablean> <bon> :)
13:01:47  <Stablean> <bon> btw I wish that stupid forest on the small island will die already..its getting in way of houses now :)
13:02:01  <Stablean> <travstr> hahaha
13:02:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> seems very unlikely that an acorn was playing openttd
13:02:19  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...mind you the houses indeed are creeping toward the empty tip of the island tho
13:02:29  <Stablean> <bon> so I'm sure that in 40 years I hopefully can almost blanket it :)
13:02:39  <Stablean> <travstr> goood
13:02:57  <Stablean> <bon> travstr and this is exactly why I prefer LOCAL trains
13:03:15  <Stablean> <bon> 480 passengers kicked out and loaded in only  one second :)
13:03:17  <Stablean> <bon> heheheh
13:03:24  <Stablean> <travstr> mrh
13:03:27  <Stablean> <travstr> mehhhhhhh
13:04:14  <Stablean> <travstr> my profits are higher than happy's *rejoice*
13:04:28  <Stablean> <bon> just wait..he's only fixing things :P
13:04:30  <Stablean> <bon> it may go back up
13:04:30  <Stablean> <bon> :)
13:04:32  <Stablean> <travstr> I know :(
13:04:38  <Stablean> <travstr> my performance is above yours tho ;)
13:04:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> and so the game begins
13:04:50  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
13:04:56  <Stablean> <bon> travstr..thats only because of two new trains having red profits for now
13:04:58  <Stablean> <travstr> by 1% too lol
13:05:12  <Stablean> <bon> but soon it'll go back up to 800+ points
13:05:16  <Stablean> <Djanxy> bon, not wanna get another line in at your cities before they cover it ?
13:05:42  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy...I'll rather stick to 2 ... the high capacity trains make more than a match to it
13:05:44  <Stablean> <bon> to our own
13:06:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i meant another station at the empty part
13:06:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> so it's ready for when they creep closer :P
13:06:47  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm which town btw?
13:07:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> dunno, was just wondering. Im not that into pax :D
13:07:49  <Stablean> <bon> oh...well let them be...if fthey really get far from station I'll use some one-way-loaded trams ;)
13:09:36  <Stablean> <bon> ughh stupid mouse cursor
13:09:39  <Stablean> <bon> oh well doesn't matter anyway
13:11:10  <Stablean> <bon> lol travstr...why the long "ummmmm" sign :)
13:11:12  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oops, terraformed the water? :D
13:11:23  <Stablean> <travstr> because it's super confusing
13:11:25  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy..nope...somehow road tile costed $$ not sure why
13:11:27  <Stablean> <travstr> and a bit weird
13:11:45  <Stablean> <bon> mm well someone need to clean up the 30+ signs tho :)
13:12:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> like the "umm? heh"
13:12:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh ;)
13:12:15  <Stablean> <bon> thats one
13:12:21  <Stablean> <bon> or the ones from anson? :)
13:12:56  <Stablean> <bon> travstr how about your rails near Kendstone that heads to nowwhere? :D
13:13:14  <Stablean> <travstr> that was for the chondthing mine
13:13:17  <Stablean> <travstr> then it disappeared
13:13:21  <Stablean> <travstr> and i didnt clear them lol
13:13:23  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to afk for a bit
13:13:29  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
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13:23:59  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport>   ok  that  loloks  beter
13:24:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> need anymore help?
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13:25:50  <V453000> sorry happy but loloks is my fav new word
13:26:00  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
13:26:27  <V453000> we still love you though :)
13:26:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
13:26:45  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you mean the rest of us
13:26:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you hate everyone
13:26:56  <V453000> equally
13:27:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hah
13:27:04  <V453000> so relatively speaking you can also say that I love everyone
13:27:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hippy
13:27:30  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yes
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13:28:03  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> thanks  for  help   vinnie
13:28:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thank you to
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13:31:06  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, happy (and others)
13:31:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello others
13:31:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  anson
13:31:25  <V453000> see, that is unequal
13:31:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> any wanna borrow me some cash ? always forget to start rails ;P
13:31:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> lol V
13:32:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cheers Vin, u da man
13:32:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> V you know what else is unequal
13:32:24  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i just farted and no one else can smell it
13:32:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> or is someone stading behind you ?
13:32:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy> better check
13:33:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> some wierd guy with an axe, but that is not uncommon
13:33:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ye know that feeling
13:33:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> anson    i am   up grade the trans now
13:34:01  <Stablean> <Anson> not yet ... you should convert all rails first
13:34:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> dun  that
13:34:25  <Stablean> <Anson> look at Little Brindinghall Mines
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13:35:16  <Stablean> <Anson> red company already laughs at that station :-)
13:35:23  <Stablean> <travstr> it's cute
13:35:26  <Stablean> <travstr> the train is doing the shuffle
13:35:30  <Stablean> <travstr> omg
13:36:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i just had a half bad idea :D
13:37:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well, do share :D
13:37:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> typing it would take 4 hours, or building it
13:37:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> can combine with loads of my bad ideas - maybe we can one whole bad idea
13:38:01  <Stablean> <Anson> happy ... look at the red sign "lols" !!!
13:39:04  <V453000> half bad?
13:39:06  <V453000> offt
13:39:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> half bad means, half good
13:39:33  <V453000> no that means bad :P
13:40:04  <Stablean> <Anson> if you want to convert the entire net, the easiest method is to drag across all the map ... then you will really convert everything, including separate non-rail station tiles and whatever ...
13:40:15  <V453000> btw Vinnie, http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Overflow_primary.png is borked
13:40:19  <V453000> :P
13:41:15  <Stablean> <Anson> we currently still have 6 normal rail tiles somewhere ... (can be seen in the details, button in the main company info window)
13:41:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Mazur told me
13:42:45  <V453000> go solve! :D
13:42:58  <Stablean> <travstr> fonhill city is beautiful
13:43:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sounds like: dance monkey, dance!
13:43:54  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, would anybody want to live in Kindington, in real life ? :-)
13:44:08  <Stablean> <travstr> where is that
13:44:18  <Stablean> <travstr> found it
13:44:21  <Stablean> <travstr> ahaha
13:44:35  <V453000> is is meant that way too!!
13:44:35  <V453000> :D
13:44:49  <Stablean> <Vinnie> are you at work?
13:45:42  <V453000> y :|
13:47:16  <V453000> how is that related anyway XD
13:47:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> just interested
13:48:54  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, general hint: if signs are outdated, you should remove them ... eg after building slh02, "planned: slh" is no longer needed :-)
13:50:00  <V453000> ...
13:50:26  <Stablean> <Anson> and you see the problem that we got with diving sometimes left and sometimes right ? ... i started the new ML at a "drive right" area, and then wondered why it didn't fit the existing rails at its other end ...
13:51:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  i see
13:52:19  <Stablean> <Anson> at and near SLH02, there are a few details to change .... I'll put signs there
13:52:53  <Stablean> <travstr> abcdefg
13:53:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i fixed me erro V
13:53:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> *error
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13:56:04  <Stablean> <bon> back for a bit now
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13:57:03  <V453000> nice thanks
13:57:03  <V453000> uhmm
13:57:08  <V453000> did you just upload the old image again? :D
13:57:38  <V453000> ah there, was in cache
13:57:40  <V453000> uhmm
13:57:42  <Stablean> <Anson> everybody can edit and delete any companie's signs ... and for the own company it is very easy to delete them : ctrl-click on it
13:57:47  <V453000> well changing base set to ogfx suddenly is ugly :
13:57:51  <V453000> :|
13:59:28  <V453000> Vinnie I also love the logic "fuck, if unsure whether a or the, use both!"
14:00:27  <Stablean> <Anson> slh02 doesn't look bad at all, but can get a few details changed, like the unsynced bridges which was created by adding an unneeded Sbend ... remove the Sbend and the bridge is synced :-)
14:00:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
14:00:49  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
14:01:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> in this game?
14:02:02  <Stablean> <Anson> are you looking at SLH02 ?
14:02:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i may have made multiple logic fucks
14:02:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i am now
14:02:24  <Stablean> *** travstr joined the game
14:02:29  <Stablean> <travstr> idk what happened
14:02:39  <Stablean> <travstr> my compuer decided it would turn itself off
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14:05:14  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...either way I'm finally uppering the wheat trains to 99kph .. may sell off one train as it'll be excessive by then ;)
14:05:29  <Stablean> <bon> not sure when the 4th loco is coming out but meh
14:05:39  <Stablean> <travstr> yay speed finally lol
14:05:45  <Stablean> <bon> you weird? ;)
14:05:59  <Stablean> <bon> oh and I have 1026 tonnes from coal :P
14:06:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> first angeldust, now it's speed
14:06:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> what's next
14:11:07  <V453000> anyone free to answer?
14:11:13  <Stablean> <travstr> answer what
14:11:15  <Stablean> <bon> hm?
14:11:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ?
14:11:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 42
14:11:34  <V453000> assdust
14:11:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> im sure he wasnt gonna ask about the meaning of life
14:12:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> a phenomenon that occours when the ass is not used in a long time, constipation might be a cause of this effect
14:12:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> indication is that soon after assdust is formed the patient will explode
14:13:37  <V453000> LOL
14:13:42  <V453000> Vinnie wins a point
14:13:53  <V453000> everyone else goes to the gas chamber
14:14:01  <Stablean> <Djanxy> again
14:14:01  <V453000> selective evolution bitches
14:14:03  <Stablean> <travstr> I'm okay thanks
14:17:10  <V453000> that doesnt make sense
14:18:02  <Stablean> <travstr> DO YOU CARRY A LUNCHBOX?
14:18:13  <Stablean> <travstr> lol 69 trainz
14:18:16  <Stablean> <Djanxy> bon, artistic points for my triple bridge factory pickup exit ? ;)
14:18:19  <V453000> NO I DONT
14:18:28  <V453000> 0/10 nevery attempt again Djanxy
14:18:38  <V453000> why the fuck do I write nevery lately
14:18:39  <V453000> dafuq
14:19:03  <Stablean> <travstr> nevery is my new fav word
14:19:09  <Stablean> <travstr> no jk.
14:19:15  <V453000> :D
14:19:21  <V453000> no k
14:19:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is it boobs?
14:19:34  <V453000> &beer
14:19:37  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy you're strange there heh
14:20:45  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...I only have 28 trains to your 69 eh?
14:20:47  <Stablean> <bon> ;)
14:21:05  <Stablean> <travstr> which is why my income is so much higher x)
14:21:07  <Stablean> <bon> even then mm I'm on top of performance chart again
14:21:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can cheat myself there
14:21:21  <Stablean> <travstr> but 1%
14:21:24  <Stablean> <travstr> by**
14:21:30  <Stablean> <bon> 2% actually
14:21:38  <Stablean> <travstr> no by 1% over happy
14:21:40  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaooo
14:21:42  <Stablean> <bon> and that depends on if my cattle train gets more than that minimum profit :P
14:21:48  <Stablean> <bon> ah ... yeah that
14:21:58  <Stablean> <bon> 78...77....76
14:21:58  <Stablean> <bon> thats funny
14:22:32  <Stablean> <travstr> well my performance went up high before
14:22:34  <Stablean> <bon> who the hell is white anyway?
14:22:36  <Stablean> <travstr> and now it's down with you guys lol
14:22:38  <Stablean> <bon> weird company
14:22:41  <Stablean> <travstr> white is some weird company.
14:22:43  <Stablean> <travstr> o lol
14:22:55  <Stablean> <bon> deep in red but not bankrupted yet
14:23:01  <Stablean> <travstr> I know ._.
14:23:03  <Stablean> <bon> autoclean thing seem broken :)
14:23:05  <Stablean> <travstr> they got in my way lol
14:23:11  <Stablean> <bon> heh :P
14:23:21  <Stablean> <travstr> oh it's because the loans keep going up
14:23:27  <Stablean> <travstr> and if they took a loan they could get out of debt
14:23:34  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm good clue
14:23:41  <Stablean> <bon> oh well
14:23:55  <Stablean> <travstr> omg production spike
14:23:57  <Stablean> <travstr> ahhhhh
14:24:19  <Stablean> <bon> Warnbury East eh? :)
14:24:41  <Stablean> <travstr> hmhm
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14:24:51  <Stablean> <travstr> though i think there was a small jam somewhere that didn't help
14:25:03  <Stablean> <Anson> have to leave now ... maybe back much later ...
14:25:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
14:25:40  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...can I make a small suggestion tho?
14:25:43  <Stablean> <travstr> suresure
14:26:13  <Stablean> <bon> separate Warnbury Heights and Warnbury South exits a bit so they aren't overlapping right away...
14:26:24  <Stablean> <bon> and why isn't Warnbury East entry on one side and exit on other side too?
14:26:31  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah i was going to do that before but i didn't want the farm to close
14:26:46  <Stablean> <bon> what you mean?
14:26:48  <Stablean> <travstr> the reason for east is because when i put down the station, there were like 5 industries in one spot
14:26:58  <Stablean> <travstr> and so i could only do terminus
14:27:02  <Stablean> <travstr> or whatever it's called
14:27:04  <Stablean> <bon> just lay a parallel track in front of Warnbury Heights to use for the exit for other station
14:27:10  <Stablean> <travstr> no i will
14:27:17  <Stablean> <travstr> it's just it's not too high on my priorities
14:27:23  <Stablean> <travstr> cause low traffic
14:27:25  <Stablean> <bon> I can do it then? :)
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14:27:39  <Stablean> <travstr> dun lol
14:27:41  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh :)
14:27:55  <Stablean> <bon> ok thats good enough atm :)
14:27:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be  back  later
14:28:07  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I'm going out for a bit now etc
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14:28:11  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
14:28:13  <Stablean> <bon> not sure how much I'll do at lunchtime but we'll see
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14:28:33  <Stablean> <travstr> have fun lol
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14:31:05  <Stablean> <Djanxy> why doesnt this town even like my trees :(
14:31:15  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
14:33:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> finally
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15:16:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> koekkoek
15:16:57  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
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15:17:51  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
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15:17:53  <Stablean> <bon> hi :)
15:18:10  <Stablean> <travstr> my city is catching up.........
15:18:42  <Stablean> <bon> looks like you have same problem...butting against water :-s
15:18:48  <Stablean> <bon> but heh mm yeah fun :)
15:18:50  <Stablean> <travstr> hmmm :/
15:19:12  <Stablean> <bon> heh I see I have two houses near tip finally
15:19:26  <Stablean> <travstr> ye  i noticed
15:19:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and the forest prevails
15:19:42  <Stablean> <travstr> haha
15:19:42  <Stablean> <bon> one day that ***** will die!
15:19:44  <Stablean> <bon> :|
15:19:50  <Stablean> <bon> heh
15:20:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> one could spawn a sawmill on that island and do some trucks
15:20:06  <Stablean> <bon> anyway seem like the coals are still ok atm
15:20:16  <Stablean> <bon> vinnie...stay off it ok eh? :P
15:20:26  <Stablean> <Vinnie> :(
15:20:50  <Stablean> <travstr> omg lol
15:20:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> anyway, less T junctions or crossroads improve city growth
15:20:59  <Stablean> <bon> travstr?
15:23:10  <Stablean> <bon> I see I finally got enough cattle to have 100% minimum profits :)
15:23:25  <Stablean> <travstr> mehhhh
15:23:52  <Stablean> <bon> just some minor upgrades to do then to start one or two new things before eating :)
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15:24:11  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
15:24:25  <Stablean> <travstr> my profits went way up lol
15:24:31  <Stablean> <travstr> idk why
15:25:01  <Stablean> <bon> hehehe....
15:25:09  <Stablean> <bon> the newer gold trains have a big yellow streak on their sides
15:25:11  <Stablean> <bon> funny
15:25:17  <Stablean> <travstr> o
15:31:37  <Stablean> <bon> ok I think theres probably a 5th superstrong loco in future but mmm .. this seem nice for now
15:31:51  <Stablean> <bon> barely a bit over one tile free in platform tho :)
15:36:47  <Stablean> <bon> you busy atm travstr?
15:40:19  <Stablean> <bon> guess so?
15:40:38  <Stablean> <travstr> o
15:40:40  <Stablean> <travstr> hi
15:40:46  <Stablean> <travstr> what's up
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15:41:39  <Stablean> <bon> ah was just wondering if you could help with removing some trees due to a particular mayor? :)
15:41:58  <Stablean> <travstr> um ok
15:42:20  <Stablean> <bon> thanks :)  I'll sign it when I need some :)
15:42:26  <Stablean> <travstr> okay
15:42:36  <Stablean> <Zentin> hello everyone
15:42:40  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
15:43:26  <Stablean> <Zentin> looks like no one more, include me cannot make anything?
15:43:36  <Stablean> <bon> zentin what you mean?
15:43:43  <Stablean> <travstr> there's lots of companies left lol
15:43:46  <Stablean> <travstr> more than usual
15:43:56  <Stablean> <Zentin> looking all over the map
15:44:18  <Stablean> <travstr> there's lot of space lol
15:44:24  <Stablean> <bon> see sign now travstr
15:44:24  <Stablean> <Zentin> and, yes, this is kinda token everything
15:44:46  <Stablean> <bon> zentin..then why do I see many 100+ tonnes industry in the industry list with 0% rating?
15:44:46  <Stablean> <travstr> wait why do you want the trees gone
15:44:53  <Stablean> <travstr> so you can place them? ;)
15:44:55  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...so I can plant new one re mayor rating
15:45:01  <Stablean> <bon> thanks that should be enough
15:45:11  <Stablean> <travstr> o
15:45:11  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
15:45:19  <Stablean> <Zentin> that industries
15:45:22  <Stablean> <bon> that'll do.... Good now :)
15:45:24  <Stablean> <Zentin> they are
15:45:30  <Stablean> <Zentin> on the end's of maps
15:45:30  <Stablean> <Zentin> lol
15:45:34  <Stablean> <bon> zentin not really
15:45:36  <Stablean> <travstr> HOLY PRODUCTION SPIKE
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15:46:39  <Stablean> <Zentin> lol
15:46:42  <Stablean> <Zentin> lolwhaT!
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15:47:04  <Stablean> <Zentin> that company
15:47:12  <Stablean> <Zentin> having big troubles
15:47:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah
15:47:20  <Stablean> <bon> so...get a new one? :)
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15:48:02  <Stablean> <Zentin> i want to play with somebody
15:48:16  <Stablean> <Vinnie> whats your playstyle?
15:48:16  <Stablean> <Zentin> but, i don't know, who can invite me
15:48:19  <Stablean> <Zentin> hm
15:48:25  <Stablean> <Zentin> i'm a newbie
15:48:27  <Stablean> <Zentin> xD
15:48:29  <Stablean> <Zentin> sorta
15:48:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im sorta, pro player
15:48:47  <Stablean> <bon> <casual
15:48:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> do you know signals?
15:48:55  <Stablean> <bon> abit I prefer non-ottd some more at times :)
15:49:14  <Stablean> <Zentin> well, in the signals and railroads im 50 good and bad
15:49:24  <Stablean> <Zentin> more bad in signals =\
15:49:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> :(
15:49:37  <Stablean> <Zentin> yeah(
15:49:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> signals are key in my company, got very specific setups
15:49:49  <Stablean> <bon> <<still want custom signals in ottd yet
15:50:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i can only help you with starting money
15:51:04  <Stablean> <Zentin> hmm
15:52:34  <Stablean> <bon> nice...needed that 3rd monorail
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15:53:37  <Stablean> <Zentin> well
15:53:49  <Stablean> <Zentin> looks like, i will can not to play on this map
15:53:59  <Stablean> <Zentin> because it's almost covered already
15:54:01  <Stablean> <travstr> why do you keep saying that
15:54:03  <Stablean> <travstr> it's not lol
15:54:05  <Stablean> <bon> zentin...then why is there lot of empty spots?
15:54:07  <Stablean> <bon> travstr...indeed
15:54:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> go play by trav, he only likes coal anyways :D
15:54:29  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and he loooves company
15:54:32  <Stablean> <travstr> no
15:54:38  <Stablean> <travstr> i've moved on now
15:54:40  <Stablean> <bon> djanxy heh :P
15:54:40  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm on food xo
15:54:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :D
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15:54:57  <Stablean> <bon> I'm about to start food soon too...just waiting on one related thing first :)
15:55:03  <Stablean> <Djanxy> its a Troy
15:55:03  <Stablean> <bon> oh hi troy? :)
15:55:10  <Stablean> <Zentin> so, than now i should start to build nerby with bon's network
15:55:20  <Stablean> <bon> zentin...where?
15:55:40  <Stablean> <Troy McClure> hi
15:55:46  <Stablean> <Zentin> right down corner
15:55:57  <Stablean> <Zentin> here is a little bit spaces
15:56:00  <Stablean> <bon> Gretown?
15:56:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
15:56:21  <Stablean> <Zentin> nope
15:56:24  <Stablean> <Zentin> prinston
15:56:27  <Stablean> <Zentin> and etc
15:56:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i made a sign
15:56:51  <Stablean> <travstr> there's a huge amount of space here
15:57:09  <Stablean> <bon> thats why I was confused by him saying theres nothing when theres LOTS
15:57:15  <Stablean> <travstr> ik
15:57:18  <Stablean> <travstr> oh bon
15:57:21  <Stablean> <travstr> my city is 2nd :>
15:57:24  <Stablean> <travstr> in pop
15:57:26  <Stablean> <bon> oh look... 4+ rubber plants in the area you signed
15:57:34  <Stablean> <travstr> ye i know lol
15:58:04  <Stablean> <Zentin> well, and where is that sign?
15:58:14  <Stablean> <bon> hahaha....travstr...that forest sign you made...very funny :)
15:58:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> use the drop down at the map menu
15:58:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> for sign list
15:58:24  <Stablean> <travstr> haha
15:58:30  <Stablean> <bon> anyway back to where I was now :)
15:58:33  <Stablean> <Zentin> ah
15:58:47  <Stablean> <Zentin> found
15:58:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and that was the spot i was thinking about
15:58:59  <Stablean> <Zentin> thanks a lot)
15:58:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> pretty good space
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15:59:07  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you can get along with trav ;)
15:59:10  <Stablean> <travstr> i will leave you with the space
15:59:16  <Stablean> <travstr> <.<
15:59:18  <Stablean> <bon> heh
15:59:28  <Stablean> <travstr> unless a coal mine pops up in which case I might nab it but yeah.
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15:59:51  <Stablean> <Zentin> hm, guys, do youy wanna see the magic?
16:00:05  <Stablean> <Zentin> i can turn this letter R into Я
16:00:07  <Stablean> <Zentin> Lol
16:00:11  <Stablean> <Djanxy> :P
16:00:13  <Stablean> <Zentin> And
16:00:20  <Stablean> <Zentin> N into И
16:00:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> russian ? :)
16:00:44  <Stablean> <travstr> lol bon
16:00:46  <Stablean> <Zentin> Indeed
16:00:50  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm getting rid of this junk company
16:00:56  <Stablean> <travstr> i'm gonna make the trains crash :>
16:00:59  <Stablean> <bon> travstr....heh?
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16:01:39  <Stablean> <bon> ughh I hate that....stupid station list can't tell that '10' is after '9' not '1' :|
16:01:46  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
16:01:52  <Stablean> <Djanxy> gotta go with 01 :D
16:02:10  <Stablean> <bon> hmm perhaps
16:02:20  <Stablean> <bon> it seem weird using the zeros like that tho
16:02:30  <Stablean> <bon> I'll think about that tho ;)
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16:03:53  <Stablean> <bon> hmmm probably finally going use some trams for now...bit too hilly for rails :->
16:04:04  <Stablean> <travstr> woo trams
16:04:53  <Stablean> <Zentin> wtf
16:04:59  <Stablean> <travstr> finally
16:04:59  <Stablean> <Zentin> that bridges
16:04:59  <Stablean> <bon> ?
16:05:13  <Stablean> <Zentin> are way too much expensive o.o
16:05:27  <Stablean> <bon> zentin...you're not building on dry land then?
16:05:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> make sure both entrance and exit are on dry land (flat)
16:05:43  <Stablean> <Zentin> nope, i dont
16:12:50  <Stablean> <Zentin> guess what?
16:13:04  <Stablean> <Zentin> i'm really stupid with this addons
16:13:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> whats wrong with it?
16:13:33  <Stablean> <Zentin> i set wrong cars
16:13:36  <Stablean> <Zentin> on the rails
16:13:38  <Stablean> <Zentin> so
16:13:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that can be easily fixed
16:14:06  <Stablean> <Zentin> and i has connected farm with the wrong factory =\
16:14:24  <Stablean> <Zentin> nevermind
16:14:30  <Stablean> <Zentin> brb, i think. 10 mins
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16:14:42  <Stablean> <bon> heh winter town getting too much food all year round thanks to me :)
16:16:40  <Stablean> <bon> brb
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16:25:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> type your name after !nick
16:25:38  <Stablean> <skyem123> oh
16:25:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> like !nick test123
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16:26:19  <Stablean> *** skyem123 has changed his/her name to skyem12345
16:26:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> it's !name ?
16:26:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
16:26:43  <Stablean> <skyem12345> that's odd it said type !nick when i logged in.
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16:38:27  <Stablean> <bon> skyem..you could've gone further to the other oil refinery a few more tiles far away?
16:38:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> ooops
16:38:51  <Stablean> <bon> its ok..just add on new tracks...then when its done...use the station remove tool on the middle station
16:38:53  <Stablean> <bon> :)
16:39:07  <Stablean> <skyem123> where is it?
16:39:25  <Stablean> <bon> follow the red line up....eh? :P
16:39:53  <Stablean> <travstr> 1,500 production ._.
16:39:55  <Stablean> <travstr> sigh cry
16:40:02  <Stablean> <bon> travstr?
16:40:14  <Stablean> <travstr> ye?
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16:40:20  <Stablean> <bon> 1500?
16:40:22  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
16:40:24  <Stablean> <travstr> mhm
16:40:27  <Stablean> <bon> 1500 what? :P
16:40:29  <Stablean> <skyem123> I'm sorry. I need to go for 15 mins. what will happen when i log out?
16:40:36  <Stablean> <travstr> nothing
16:40:50  <Stablean> <Djanxy> if you dont have vehicles the company will close
16:41:00  <Stablean> <skyem123> well, i have one.
16:41:02  <Stablean> <travstr> oh yeah that's true
16:41:10  <Stablean> <skyem123> so thats ok...
16:41:18  <Stablean> <skyem123> bye! for now.
16:41:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> then you're fine as long you you're in profit
16:41:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello Ali
16:41:49  <Stablean> <skyem123> i don't know but i will risk it.
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16:44:45  <Stablean> <bon> finally had to decide to replace one of the coal trains :->
16:44:47  <Stablean> <bon> crazy coal mine heh
16:44:50  <Stablean> <travstr> yayyyyyyy
16:45:04  <Stablean> <bon> I hope it doesn't go beyond 1400 tho
16:45:06  <Stablean> <bon> :/
16:45:12  <Stablean> <bon> funny thing is other route is still ok
16:45:14  <Stablean> <travstr> hmmmmmmm
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16:47:14  <Stablean> <bon> going from 10 to 12 length platforms heh
16:47:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  all
16:47:44  <Stablean> <bon> hi happy?
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16:49:46  <Stablean> <Djanxy> trav, what's with the spiky profit graph ?
16:50:24  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  neeed  mor coal  mine
16:51:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, that's likely it :D
16:54:21  <Stablean> <bon> there..managed to modify it..just going wait for the newer locos before I add more wagons tho :)
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16:54:39  <Stablean> <eirc> hello
16:54:45  <Stablean> <travstr> hey
16:54:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
16:54:47  <Stablean> <bon> hi eirc
16:54:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> hi
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16:58:08  <Stablean> <bon> heh forgot about one of my pax line for a while...too underserved with 2-unit trains now :-s
16:58:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  player  thats not  your  cumpany  to doo  a password
16:59:04  <Stablean> <travstr> uh oh
16:59:06  <Stablean> <Player #1> oops
16:59:10  <Stablean> <Player #1> forgot to login...
16:59:13  <Stablean> <bon> player...can't you read? :)
16:59:17  <Stablean> <bon> ah..is that you?
16:59:19  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
16:59:19  <Stablean> <bon> :)
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16:59:31  <Stablean> <bon> eh? :-s
16:59:41  <Stablean> <travstr> I don't think it was
16:59:51  <Stablean> <travstr> because when skyem logged in his name was already skyem123
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16:59:59  <Stablean> <travstr> or maybe
17:00:02  <Stablean> <travstr> idk any more
17:00:17  <Stablean> <skyem123> that was awkward
17:01:19  <Stablean> <skyem123> where should i put my oil. the refinary someone wanted me to give it to has dissapeared
17:01:33  <Stablean> <bon> theres still one thre
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17:03:27  <Stablean> <bon> anyway I need to go for a few hours now...have fun ok? :)
17:03:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
17:04:14  <Stablean> <bon> and mmm yeah as usual see if you can't stay away (that goes to your coal station I signed too happy heh) since I still want to do a few more routes :P
17:04:20  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> travstr  u  got a new  coal  mine thats  from  me
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17:04:32  <Stablean> <travstr> huh
17:04:48  <Stablean> <skyem123> is it possible to transfer cargo?
17:04:54  <Stablean> <travstr> yes
17:05:08  <Stablean> <skyem123> from company to company?
17:05:10  <Stablean> <travstr> but i need to go afk so someone else can explain ;)
17:05:13  <Stablean> <travstr> oh, dont think so no
17:05:21  <Stablean> <travstr> good question. anyway afk
17:05:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> no u can not doo  that
17:05:47  <Stablean> <skyem123> aww
17:06:13  <Stablean> <skyem123> what is this "other" cost?
17:07:00  <Stablean> <travstr> viewports are awesome
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17:13:36  <Stablean> *** Player has changed his/her name to skyem123
17:13:44  <Stablean> <skyem123> Ok....
17:14:15  <Stablean> <skyem123> my usb with openttd went crazy...
17:14:22  <Stablean> <Djanxy> heh
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17:17:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi jam
17:17:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things
17:18:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
17:18:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> fine, how are you?
17:18:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> good  thnks
17:18:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> fill  free  to  john
17:21:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> happy has Anson been in your company?
17:21:47  <BiG_MEECH> !players
17:21:50  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 66 is Vinnie, a spectator
17:21:50  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 86 (Red) is travstr, in company 3 (travstr's trains three)
17:21:50  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 114 (White) is skyem123, in company 4 (skyem123 Transport)
17:21:50  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 116 is Jam35, a spectator
17:21:50  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 99 (Blue) is happy tran  sport, in company 2 (happy coal  net  werk)
17:21:51  <Stablean> BiG_MEECH: Client 82 (Dark Blue) is Djanxy, in company 7 (Djanxy Transport)
17:22:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yes  i have  give  hem  won mor  chanch
17:22:11  <BiG_MEECH> lol even Jam knows of Anson's ' handywork ' xD
17:22:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> ...thought so :)
17:22:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  big  meech
17:22:34  <Stablean> <Jam35> should have banned them both :p
17:23:00  <BiG_MEECH> D:
17:23:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> or at least ban signage spam
17:23:35  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> how  things  big meech
17:23:49  <BiG_MEECH> D:
17:23:57  <BiG_MEECH> Jam wants me banned :'(
17:24:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and sturim  and  vinnie  has help  as will
17:24:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> only from happy company
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17:24:45  <BiG_MEECH> D:
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17:25:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wil  i  can  chanch  the  password  so he can not john  he  he
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17:25:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> bankrupting someone not a good readon ? :P
17:25:25  <Stablean> <Jam35> *reason
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17:27:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> jam  i can   stop  anson  in to my company  by  chanch  the passord
17:27:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> no I  don't care really, only joking
17:27:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok he he
17:28:02  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i no
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17:28:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  andy  g
17:28:46  <Stablean> <Andy G> hello
17:29:48  <Stablean> <Andy G> I can see I have missed all the fun
17:29:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
17:30:16  <Stablean> <Andy G> think I shall sit this one out then
17:31:12  <Stablean> <skyem123> how low can you get in '-' balance
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17:33:50  <Stablean> <travstr> lol skyem
17:33:52  <BiG_MEECH> D:
17:33:54  <Stablean> <travstr> just take out a loan
17:34:21  <Stablean> <travstr> oh hi jam
17:34:23  <Stablean> <travstr> lols
17:38:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> - balance longer then 6 months will bankrupt your company
17:39:00  <Stablean> <skyem123> erk
17:39:03  <Stablean> <Vinnie> also you can transfer cargo betwee 2 companies
17:39:06  <Stablean> <travstr> take out a loneeee
17:39:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  vinnie
17:39:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> transfer to an oil platform
17:39:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
17:39:28  <Stablean> <travstr> ah good idea
17:39:39  <Stablean> <travstr> except they're not on this map. but i will remember that for future.
17:40:09  <Stablean> <travstr> woo I have the most populous city ^^
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17:44:21  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> be back  later
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17:49:44  <Stablean> <skyem123> I'm not good at starting this game...
17:53:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> need help?
17:53:30  <Stablean> <skyem123> are you asking me?
17:53:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah
17:53:51  <Stablean> <skyem123> yes.
17:53:54  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
17:54:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> what would you like, a nice train network or in general a nice company?
17:54:47  <Stablean> <travstr> traffic problems...
17:55:29  <Stablean> <skyem123> train network
17:56:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i like it when you have all types of cargo driving on the same network, do you want something like that?
17:56:26  <Stablean> <skyem123> yes
17:56:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> unfortunatly you have no industries near you, i suggest you make a new network a little bit more north
17:57:28  <Stablean> <skyem123> where is north?
17:57:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> in the titlebar you see the button to open the mini-map
17:57:38  <Stablean> <travstr> or press m
17:57:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> press that and select, the sign list
17:57:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 3rd option
17:57:54  <Stablean> <travstr> or don't press m
17:58:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 2nd name in the list is !here
17:58:19  <Stablean> <skyem123> ?
17:58:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> click on that list
17:58:39  <Stablean> <skyem123> ah ha!
17:59:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> are you there?
17:59:28  <Stablean> <skyem123> yup
17:59:28  <Stablean> <travstr> lolssssss
17:59:35  <Stablean> <travstr> cute lil compass
17:59:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> something you need to keep in mind if you dont know already - terraforming is very expensive
17:59:39  <Stablean> <travstr> good for you
17:59:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> lots of industries here
17:59:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so lets get started
18:00:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> in the east on the mountain is food
18:00:37  <Stablean> <skyem123> yes
18:01:35  <Stablean> <skyem123> thanks!
18:01:41  <Stablean> <skyem123> do i pay off the loan?
18:01:51  <Stablean> <travstr> you might not want to just yet lol
18:02:05  <Stablean> <travstr> not all of it anyways
18:02:11  <Stablean> <skyem123> i repayed a bit
18:02:17  <Stablean> <travstr> o you have lots of money
18:02:23  <Stablean> <travstr> ok yeah pay off the loan
18:02:41  <Stablean> <travstr> ok
18:02:49  <Stablean> <skyem123> thank goodness for kind people!
18:02:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> good guy vinnie
18:03:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you can cross the road in town there
18:04:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just merge the lines
18:05:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> press X to see trough signs
18:06:45  <Stablean> <Vinnie> if you are stuck just say so
18:06:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> or its unclear
18:08:05  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the dots could indicate a possible path
18:11:20  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke now infront of a station build an X to connect the two lines
18:11:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> like the example near fruit plantation
18:11:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> both stations please
18:12:07  <Stablean> <skyem123> ok
18:12:26  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke now for the signals
18:12:48  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you just need to use these specific ones to make the station work
18:13:18  <Stablean> <skyem123> one way path signals
18:13:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> one is a one way path signal
18:13:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the other one is a block signal
18:14:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> in the signal menu is a number
18:14:12  <Stablean> <skyem123> is that ok?
18:14:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> the signal distance, mine is 2 and yours?
18:14:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> its ok, if you like to use those signals
18:14:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> 5.
18:14:47  <Stablean> <travstr> *oh*
18:14:57  <Stablean> <skyem123> do i set it to 2?
18:15:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> with 2 a track can hold more trains
18:15:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> so it might jam later
18:15:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> wich help troughput
18:15:40  <Stablean> <skyem123> always good!
18:15:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> then i suggest to set it to 2
18:16:01  <Stablean> <skyem123> ok
18:16:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now please don't do this just read and answer
18:16:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you know how to drag signals?
18:16:37  <Stablean> <skyem123> yes i do
18:16:57  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke now do that but also at the same time keep the ctrl button pressed
18:17:03  <Stablean> <skyem123> ok
18:17:09  <Stablean> <skyem123> what type?
18:17:23  <Stablean> <Vinnie> does not matter, it will build the signal you are dragging from
18:17:47  <Stablean> <skyem123> oh
18:17:49  <Stablean> <skyem123> ok
18:17:56  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now the return trip
18:18:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> neat trick isn't it
18:18:45  <Stablean> <skyem123> yes
18:18:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now lets build a train
18:19:23  <Stablean> <skyem123> argh¬!
18:19:29  <Stablean> <skyem123> i have to go...
18:19:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no problem
18:19:34  <Stablean> <skyem123> i will be back soon
18:19:42  <Stablean> <skyem123> bye! for now...
18:19:46  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
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18:21:25  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i also brb
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18:25:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yeah Original graphics
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18:32:50  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo ... just came back and reading up on IRC now ...
18:33:00  <Stablean> <travstr> hey boo
18:33:35  <Stablean> <Anson> Vinnie, you said that companies go bankrupt when they are in -$ for 6 months ... that was 1 or 2 years ago, but has changed in the meantime :-)
18:33:50  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is it longer?
18:34:38  <Stablean> <Anson> AFAIK, a company will not go bankrupt after some time, but when the total money (cas plus possible max loan) is too much in the negatives .
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18:35:44  <Stablean> <Anson> if you have max loan 10million and didn't take any loan, the company can live for hundreds of years until it gets below -10 million cash ... and only THEN it takes 3 months for a warning and bankruptcy
18:35:59  <Stablean> <Player> hello!
18:36:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
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18:36:25  <Stablean> <travstr> hey
18:36:29  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that sounds insane
18:36:39  <Stablean> <skyem123> ok...
18:36:49  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah anson that happened before
18:37:04  <Stablean> <travstr> i had to go into the noobs company and let the trains crash and take out a max loan lol
18:37:54  <Stablean> <Anson> to bankrupt a company (for deleting it), just buy a ship and let it run for a few days :-) ... that's the main purpose of ships on this server :-)
18:38:21  <Stablean> <travstr> why does that work?
18:38:28  <Stablean> <travstr> oh i see
18:38:30  <Stablean> <travstr> well...
18:38:33  <Stablean> <travstr> that's no fun
18:39:03  <Stablean> <skyem123> what engine should i use?
18:39:29  <Stablean> <Anson> speaking of bankrupting a company : it was very easy to bankrupt happy's old company on the other map : i first spent all money for upgrading all rails, and meech finished the work by starting an autoreplace for 200+ million when the company was down to 0 cash
18:40:15  <Stablean> <Vinnie> are you telling me that autoreplace also works with 0 cash?
18:40:29  <Stablean> <travstr> if you allow it... i suppose
18:40:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> skyem123: any strong engine: blue number
18:40:39  <Stablean> <Anson> no, but it spends all money as soon as you earn some
18:41:01  <Stablean> <travstr> aye c
18:41:32  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thats a superstrong
18:41:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> they are pretty slow
18:42:10  <Stablean> <skyem123> what type of cargo is fruit?
18:42:20  <Stablean> <travstr> fruit
18:42:22  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
18:42:28  <Stablean> <Vinnie> just pick a universal cargo wagon
18:42:28  <Stablean> <travstr> i forgot :o
18:42:38  <Stablean> <travstr> universals are heavier ;)
18:42:45  <Stablean> <travstr> lazy people use universals baha
18:42:51  <Stablean> <Vinnie> he has superstrong engine
18:42:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> <- lazy
18:42:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> like it matters
18:43:02  <Stablean> <travstr> god i'm kidding lol
18:43:08  <Stablean> <travstr> but yeah djanxy lazy indeed
18:43:18  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 1 wagon more
18:43:37  <Stablean> <Vinnie> now refit to fruit
18:44:03  <Stablean> <skyem123> do i now start it
18:44:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> in the orderlist if you press go to then ctrl + loading station it automaticly goes to fullload
18:44:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you load orders are wrong
18:44:53  <Stablean> <Djanxy> load and unload are also the wrong way around
18:44:55  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it is loading at the drop and unloading at the pickup
18:45:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> oops.
18:45:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> very nice
18:45:43  <Stablean> <skyem123> go!
18:45:58  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oke now clone that train so you have 2
18:46:10  <Stablean> <skyem123> yup!
18:46:24  <Stablean> <skyem123> do i share orders?
18:46:30  <Stablean> <Vinnie> yes
18:46:40  <Stablean> <skyem123> done!
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18:47:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> near the food drop is a coal mine
18:48:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> and above the compass is a power plant
18:48:02  <Stablean> <skyem123> when do i set the other train to run?
18:48:08  <Stablean> <travstr> #hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
18:48:37  <Stablean> <skyem123> argh! connection loss!
18:48:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> anytime you want
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18:48:53  <Stablean> <travstr> yeah same
18:48:55  <Stablean> <travstr> hm
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18:50:02  <Vinnie_nl> !ping
18:50:02  <Stablean> Vinnie_nl: pong
18:50:33  <Vinnie_nl> anyone still in the server?
18:50:41  <Djanx> i cant join
18:50:49  <happy_> me to
18:50:49  <Vinnie_nl> same here
18:51:09  <happy_> server  has  gon  of line
18:51:20  <Anson> same here... lost con and can't login now
18:51:47  <Anson> does the server do that every day now?
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18:51:58  <Stablean> <skyem123> when the current train finishes filling up?
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18:53:19  <Vinnie_nl> well back to complex games
18:53:24  <Anson> !admin
18:53:24  <Stablean> *** Anson has requested an admin. (Note: Admin will read back on irc, so please do already write down your request, no need to wait.)
18:54:17  <Anson> the welcome server seems to have crashed again... kicked all players and ca't login again
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19:00:08  <Stablean> <skyem123> woah!
19:00:35  <Stablean> <skyem123> did the server die?
19:00:41  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup
19:00:46  <happy_> anson   server  is  ok  now
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19:02:05  <Stablean> <travstr> weirddddddd
19:02:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wb  travstr
19:02:23  <Stablean> <travstr> tyty
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19:08:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> need more expansions skyem123?
19:09:07  <Stablean> <Djanxy> vinnie, join your company if you want my loan back
19:09:17  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i got enough money
19:09:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> alright thanks
19:09:51  <Stablean> <Djanxy> figures so, but felt bad not offering it ;)
19:09:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy> figured*
19:10:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> send it to a new guy if he has trouble earning money
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19:13:54  <Stablean> <skyem123> dun dun dun!
19:15:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 0 being good and 10 being good a 6
19:15:31  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it works but far from perfect
19:16:13  <Jam35> nice scale :p
19:16:31  <Stablean> <skyem123> in singleplayer i build junctions like this...
19:16:35  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
19:16:41  <Stablean> <Vinnie> does it ever jam?
19:16:47  <Stablean> <skyem123> my rails don't have many trains though...
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19:18:09  <Stablean> <skyem123> should i build a simple tram network between two towns?
19:18:32  <Stablean> <Anson> trams are RV (road vehicles
19:18:38  <Stablean> <skyem123> i know.
19:19:04  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the advanced settings : max 1000 trains, 10 RV, 10 planes, 5 ships
19:20:05  <Vinnie_nl> skyem123 this might be a fun junction http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/2/20/PSG260.png
19:20:10  <Stablean> <travstr> uh oh
19:20:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> 4 lines is doable
19:21:18  <Stablean> <Anson> 7 is doable too :-) :-) :-)
19:21:20  <Stablean> <skyem123> HOLY- that is MASSIVE!
19:22:42  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i only did one game with 7 lines
19:23:28  <Stablean> <skyem123> it is very odd. food gets produced in the factory and then it dissapears!
19:23:42  <Stablean> <Anson> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/a/ac/PSG268.png
19:24:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> because your train tries to load goods
19:24:14  <Stablean> <Vinnie> refit it to food
19:24:24  <Stablean> <skyem123> DOH!
19:24:30  <Stablean> <Anson> game 268 had one massive hub ... 4 directions, each with 7 incoming and 7 outgoing lanes ... size of hub: 128x128
19:24:38  <Vinnie_nl> that looks nice
19:25:44  <Stablean> <Anson> but i have to admit: only the first 4 or 5 lanes in each direction are connected "all to all" ... and lanes 6 and 7 are connected all to all, but not all of the first 5 are connected to all of the last 2
19:25:52  <Stablean> <Vinnie> im going to blow up my pc by looking at that
19:26:34  <Stablean> <Anson> load the savegame and look at that hub on the minimap while you have selected the "vehicle view"
19:27:04  <Stablean> <Vinnie> brb
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19:29:05  <Vinnie_nl> i just hate those signal types
19:29:35  <Stablean> <skyem123> what type of signal?
19:29:41  <Vinnie_nl> on wtrails
19:31:08  <Stablean> <skyem123> ???
19:31:48  <Stablean> <Anson> at first, i hated them too, but after a few maps, you get accustomed to them ... although i still would like a change in colors : the yellow and grey lamps on them are a bit difficult to see sometimes
19:33:42  <Stablean> <Anson> btw : i don't like a permanent sign flood either, but useful to document what has been done or needs to be done ... and when it is read/done, signs should be deleted again
19:34:08  <Stablean> <Anson> like the "start of double ML" which is no longer valid after rebuilding :-)
19:34:46  <Stablean> <travstr> oh I didn't realise you took a coal mine :o
19:34:48  <Stablean> <travstr> betch
19:34:51  <Vinnie_nl> bring out the spanking machine
19:35:50  <Stablean> <Anson> new mine ? i can't find it in the group list ...
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19:36:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> u got  3  new  wons
19:36:02  <Stablean> <travstr> no
19:36:04  <Stablean> <travstr> lol never mind
19:36:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok   i doo  mor coal mins
19:37:58  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> travstr  see  my sign say   new  won
19:38:36  <Stablean> <travstr> o ty
19:38:52  <Stablean> <skyem123> yay! profit!
19:38:58  <Stablean> <Anson> question to any "pro" : when trains at merge1 get prio for the left side, should trains at merge2 get prio for the left side too, or for the right side, so that trains from north get prio for one lane and trains from south get prio for the other lane ?
19:39:40  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it didnt need priorities
19:40:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> eacht track has 1 split followed by 2 merges
19:40:48  <Stablean> <skyem123> time is passing quickly...
19:41:10  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... but should two such merges get the same prio (both for north, or both for south, or should they get the opposite ?
19:41:44  <Stablean> <Vinnie> opposite
19:42:10  <Stablean> <Vinnie> that way every track has a chance to join a priority
19:42:13  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, that's what i have added now (signals had no prio on merge 2 before)
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19:46:12  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
19:47:34  <Stablean> <Anson> the train is empty and goes to unload at the drop ...
19:48:12  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
19:49:22  <BiG_MEECH> yooooooooo
19:49:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yo meech
19:49:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> dutchie
19:51:19  <Stablean> <skyem123> the local authority hates me. as always!
19:51:59  <Stablean> <Vinnie> treeslayer
19:52:25  <Stablean> <skyem123> how do i get them to like me?
19:52:32  <Stablean> <skyem123> it is jamming my network
19:52:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> kill about 40-80 tiles of trees arround town
19:53:00  <Stablean> <Vinnie> then replant them
19:53:18  <Stablean> <skyem123> geronimo!
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19:54:07  <Stablean> <skyem123> hmm
19:54:50  <Stablean> <skyem123> still bad
19:56:04  <Stablean> <skyem123> i give up!
19:56:10  <Stablean> <skyem123> let my network jam
19:56:13  <Stablean> <travstr> ;p;
19:56:16  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
19:57:00  <Stablean> <skyem123> i think i need a good station rating and then it makes the town like me...
19:57:07  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> skyem123  chek  your  tran 1   the  oil  well has  gon
19:57:09  <Stablean> <travstr> yes.
19:57:19  <Stablean> <skyem123> ...
19:57:21  <Stablean> <skyem123> HOW?
19:57:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> oil is bugged
19:57:40  <Stablean> <travstr> you weren't exporting enough oil
19:57:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess
19:57:46  <Stablean> <travstr> or that
19:57:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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20:03:51  <Stablean> <travstr> omg this system has increased my profits soooo much
20:03:53  <Stablean> <travstr> ugh i'm in love
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20:07:35  <Stablean> <skyem123> how do bouys work?
20:09:42  <Stablean> <Anson> as waypoints for ships
20:10:04  <Stablean> <Anson> you place them and then have orders "goto ..."
20:10:34  <Stablean> <Anson> but better not try it on this map
20:10:40  <Stablean> <skyem123> why not?
20:10:43  <Stablean> <Anson> since shops are very costly here
20:10:51  <Stablean> <Anson> * ships
20:11:09  <Stablean> <Anson> you would be bankrupt in a matter of days
20:11:11  <Stablean> <skyem123> 1,669
20:11:14  <Stablean> <skyem123> uhh
20:11:21  <Stablean> <skyem123> to RUN?
20:11:25  <Stablean> <skyem123> HOLY!
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20:11:51  <Stablean> <Anson> this server is mostly about train nets ... thus planes and ships costs are set to high prices on most maps
20:11:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy> the settings on this map is for encouraging using trains
20:12:11  <Stablean> <Anson> main purpose of ships is to delete a company :-)
20:12:30  <Stablean> <skyem123> is that offical purpose?
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20:12:58  <Stablean> <paraszt> hi
20:13:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi
20:13:26  <Stablean> <Anson> look at the grf settings ... third icon, then grf settings ... and then look at the parameters of basecosts
20:13:58  <Stablean> <skyem123> WOAH!
20:14:09  <Stablean> <travstr> wat
20:14:11  <Stablean> <Anson> in that grf, planes and ships are set to costly (on most maps of this server)
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20:14:31  <Stablean> <Anson> and also the costs for terraforming and water terraforming
20:14:45  <Stablean> <travstr> 'water TF x2048' WHY
20:14:47  <Stablean> <travstr> SIGH
20:15:14  <Stablean> <travstr> lol ship purchase is free
20:15:21  <Stablean> <travstr> i guess so you can delete companies as you said
20:15:24  <Stablean> <Anson> without those settings, there always are people who just flatten mountains, or create flat land where water is supposed to separate islands
20:15:44  <Stablean> <skyem123> must... find... way... to... make... town... like... me...
20:15:55  <Stablean> <travstr> no I know but it's annoying when one tile of water is in the way it costs so much to clear it
20:16:13  <Stablean> <travstr> like i want to expand my station but a single water tile makes everything cost like 224mil
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20:16:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> port  lost  ov  trees
20:16:26  <Stablean> <travstr> well not a single but if i raise one thing it all costs that much
20:16:40  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, don't be angry about the water ... enjoy that land terraforming is not as costly too :-)
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20:16:54  <Stablean> <travstr> I suppose
20:16:54  <Stablean> <paraszt> should be exponential then - relative cost would go up with the more u change
20:17:32  <Stablean> <Anson> "the more you change" ? how would you measure this ?
20:17:54  <Stablean> <paraszt> per tile?
20:18:04  <Stablean> <Anson> a big company can terraform 20 water tiles, and a small company does the same ?
20:18:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> skyem123  port   tress  nexs  to the  town  and   try to   extend  station
20:18:29  <Stablean> <Anson> and what about dummy companies that terraform and then go bankrupt, just to help another company ?
20:18:45  <Stablean> <travstr> what about them
20:18:51  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't see what that does lol
20:18:54  <Stablean> <paraszt> no. 1-2 tiles would be cheap but relative cost would get higher if the more u change
20:19:33  <Stablean> <Anson> create company, terraform max limit of water, delete company, create new company, terffaorm another max limit, delete company, repeat until you have flattened the world
20:19:47  <Stablean> <travstr> that makes more sense
20:19:50  <Stablean> <travstr> lmao
20:20:00  <Stablean> <travstr> okay fine
20:20:02  <Stablean> <travstr> blah
20:20:12  <Stablean> <Anson> that's one reason why you can't count the tiles per company
20:20:14  <Stablean> <paraszt> eg 1 tile would be 20k, 2 tiles 50k, 3 75k and so on. 10 tles would be 1M
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20:22:58  <Stablean> <Anson> para: sounds nice, but how would you count that ? what about a company which is huge and exists for 100 years, and another which is small and exists 1 year ? should they be able to terraform the same amount ?
20:23:45  <Stablean> <skyem123> what is "purr" rail?
20:23:51  <Stablean> <travstr> universal rails
20:24:01  <Stablean> <travstr> for all train types
20:24:11  <Stablean> <Anson> purr universal rainbow rails
20:24:34  <Stablean> <skyem123> woah
20:24:53  <Stablean> <travstr> but the're expensive
20:25:03  <Stablean> <skyem123> WOAH!
20:25:13  <Stablean> <travstr> wat
20:25:19  <Stablean> <skyem123> £18,580 per track
20:25:29  <Stablean> <Anson> most grf files have at least a small readme file ... open grf settings to get to that readme ... and also sometimes to links for a wiki etc
20:25:59  <Stablean> <Anson> universal rail is the most expensive since all types of trains can run on them, even at the same time
20:26:17  <Stablean> <travstr> it's so useful ^^
20:26:33  <Stablean> <travstr> and because of them you can upgrade straight to monorail and maglev without rebuying your trains
20:26:35  <Stablean> <Anson> and when you later in the game earn a few or many millions per year, 20k is not much
20:26:37  <Stablean> <travstr> yay shortcuts
20:27:00  <Stablean> <travstr> yay i'm first on the leaderboard
20:27:04  <Stablean> <travstr> *swag*
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20:27:42  <Stablean> <skyem123> can you join a normal rail to a purr rail?
20:27:44  <Stablean> <travstr> whoa anson/happy your company's train running costs are insane
20:27:47  <Stablean> <travstr> yes you can
20:27:53  <Stablean> <paraszt> totalcost=basecost * (1*1.5^n)/1.5 for example :) that way changing 1-2 water tiles wouldnt be so expansive
20:27:56  <Stablean> <Anson> depends ... you are only second when it comes to "cargo delivered"
20:28:02  <Stablean> <paraszt> but at 10 tiles its a lot
20:28:24  <Stablean> <travstr> yes anson because bon has set up a super short pax line lol
20:28:32  <Stablean> <travstr> with huge cities
20:28:38  <Stablean> <Anson> para : what about doing 10 tiles one after another ?
20:28:52  <Stablean> <paraszt> there should be time interval
20:28:54  <Stablean> <Anson> would that be 10 times the price of 1 ?
20:29:12  <Stablean> <paraszt> or global counting of water tiles changed
20:29:47  <Stablean> <Anson> if you edit the ottd config file with an editor, there are settings how many tiles can be cleared/terraformed per frame, and how fast that regenerates
20:30:09  <Stablean> <Anson> since it doesn't work well, it isn't used much
20:30:11  <Stablean> <paraszt> i am not into that depths of this :) just thinking aloud
20:30:15  <Stablean> <travstr> lol 'train running costs 4,180,232'
20:30:21  <Stablean> <travstr> lmaooooo
20:30:49  <Stablean> <paraszt> i was never brave enuf to play here :)
20:30:51  <Stablean> <Anson> this map is with inflation ... prices multiply, but also max loan and everything else
20:31:18  <Stablean> <paraszt> tho i am playing OTTD since 0.4
20:31:33  <Stablean> <paraszt> just learning :)
20:33:27  <Stablean> <Anson> http://wiki.openttd.org/Openttd.cfg#.5Bconstruction.5D ... parameters for frame burst, actions per 64k frames, etc
20:34:30  <Stablean> <Anson> you started playing this game with ottd ? ... i did the whole story, from TT, TTD, TTDpatch, until finally ottd
20:34:36  <Stablean> <paraszt> no
20:34:39  <Stablean> <paraszt> of course not
20:35:13  <Stablean> <paraszt> but i didnt know there was OTTD before 2006/beta 0.4
20:35:59  <Stablean> <paraszt> playing online/multiplayer added a brand new perspective to the game
20:36:59  <Stablean> <paraszt> i am stucked with citybuilder ever since :)
20:37:28  <Stablean> <Anson> building stations, having 1way signals, and many more features were nice ... TT had almost none of them and you couldn't build a network, even when using signals
20:37:59  <Stablean> <Anson> and the permanent breakdowns ... nice that on this server, they are always switched off
20:38:01  <Stablean> <paraszt> yeah, it was just clowning around
20:38:28  <Stablean> <paraszt> btw it was RR tycoon i started with
20:38:34  <Stablean> <paraszt> back in 92
20:38:40  <Stablean> <paraszt> on my 1st PC
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20:39:51  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, and now you can play ittd on your phone :-)
20:40:10  <Stablean> <paraszt> can i ?
20:40:13  <Stablean> <paraszt> on android?
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20:42:21  <Stablean> <paraszt> while i really respect the logic behind them those traffic controlling 'artifacts' always bugged me in ottdcoop
20:42:27  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> travstr    see  my sign
20:42:41  <Stablean> <Anson> ok, not powerful enough for this big map
20:42:51  <Stablean> <travstr> o thank you :>
20:42:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> np
20:42:56  <Stablean> <travstr> you can have it if you want tho
20:43:02  <Stablean> <paraszt> r they still needed with new signals?
20:43:04  <Stablean> <travstr> i don't mind
20:43:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> no u have it
20:43:37  <Stablean> <travstr> hm i'm not sure my second station can handle it lol
20:43:39  <Stablean> <travstr> maybe
20:43:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ican not ade  eney  mor trans so its  yours
20:43:55  <Stablean> <travstr> omg lol okay maybe
20:46:29  <Stablean> <Anson> not more trains ?
20:46:56  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  we can not ade  eney  mor  to the  drop of
20:47:58  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... starts to jam when more trains arrive
20:48:32  <Stablean> <Anson> rule of thumb : you need N+1 platforms when trains have N loading stages
20:48:58  <Stablean> <Anson> double that for our drop (two incoming lines)
20:49:08  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> the drop  of   can not  go eney  biger
20:49:46  <Stablean> <Anson> 7 stages --> 2*8 = 16 platforms for our drop station
20:50:00  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
20:50:28  <Stablean> <Anson> station spread is 12 ... thus it would "easily" possible to build 24 platforms
20:51:03  <Stablean> <Anson> another solution : using other trains which load/unload faster
20:52:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem   but nned  to do  a  a way point  to doo that
20:53:15  <Stablean> <Anson> ????
20:53:33  <Stablean> <Anson> just using other train types ... they all have diferent loading times
20:53:47  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  i see
20:54:17  <Stablean> <Anson> the wet trains are slower (max 120 kph), but they only have 2 loading stages, thus need only 3 or at most 4 platforms per lane
20:54:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
20:54:42  <Stablean> <Anson> with a total of 7 platforms, you could service a double ML
20:54:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
20:55:51  <Stablean> <Anson> why did you switch to chami trains ?
20:57:10  <Stablean> <Anson> chami wagons have 28 capacity (normal rail, 3rd gen, has 35) ... and loading time is 28/4=7 stages (3rd gen is 35/7=5 loading stages)
20:59:04  <Stablean> <Anson> the chami engines are faster ... but only for short trains ... soilwork with our TL3 has only speed 166 while the best medium "normal" rail engine has 186
21:00:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> soilwork is not the best current chami tho
21:00:20  <Stablean> <Anson> with double engines, even the fast train class has TE 600+, power 8000+, and speed 231
21:00:54  <Stablean> <Djanxy> not arguing your point, just saying :D
21:01:49  <Stablean> <Anson> what is the best chami speed ? .... natural borm chaos is 306 without wagons, and 255-30=225 for TL3 ?
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21:02:25  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> hi  solo
21:02:31  <Stablean> <solo> ello
21:02:42  <Stablean> <Anson> but the biggest problem for us still exists : slow loading and unloading ...
21:04:06  <Stablean> <Anson> look at train 220
21:04:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
21:05:01  <Stablean> <Anson> exactly same capacity as the chami (chami has capacity on engines too, but less on wagons) ... thus capacity is exactly the same
21:05:39  <Stablean> <travstr> i still can't believe your train running costs lol
21:05:39  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> heem  i see
21:05:41  <Stablean> <Anson> and speed is 231 vs 166, power 13k vs 8k, TE 1400 vs 600
21:05:43  <Stablean> <travstr> i mean wow
21:06:57  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
21:08:12  <Stablean> <Anson> now have a look at train 221 :-)
21:08:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
21:09:20  <Stablean> <Anson> 262 speed, 12k power, 1400 TE, capacity a little lower at 120 (vs 140), but only 30/8=4 loading stages
21:09:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
21:11:44  <Stablean> <Anson> the fast monorail is even 281 speed, and there will be a better one soon
21:11:54  <Stablean> <travstr> 301*
21:12:00  <Stablean> <Anson> train 222
21:12:06  <Stablean> <travstr> what lol
21:12:24  <Stablean> <travstr> o the fast one
21:12:30  <Stablean> <travstr> o monorail lol
21:12:32  <Stablean> <travstr> never mind.
21:14:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
21:14:26  <Stablean> <Anson> train 223 is the example for fast maglev ... speed 382 :-) ... but wagons are small: 88 capacity only, instead of 120 or 140
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21:14:54  <Stablean> <Anson> but 22/8=3 loading stages only
21:15:21  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Nice map
21:15:48  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> It would be a shame if something dinosaur was to happen to it :p
21:15:52  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Like an economy :D
21:16:34  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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21:19:35  <Stablean> <Anson> and finally trains 224 and 225 : only max speed 120, but capacity 200 and 180, and loading speed 40/20=2 for the "small" ships (which have more speed and capacity, but less power and TE), and 45/5=9 stages for the bigger ships
21:19:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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21:21:46  <Stablean> <Anson> if you don't mind the slow speed, wet trains are really nice : huge capacity, relatively good power/TE, and fast loading
21:22:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  go for it
21:24:03  <Stablean> <Anson> and later, there will even be the other three wet trains (turtles, slugs and monsters) which have max speed 120 too, but for a better station rating, they simulate much higher max speeds
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21:24:57  <Stablean> <Anson> with the newest nuts/purr, wet trains give one problem if you only want to test them : they get a penalty of 30% for speed, power and TE when not drivinbg on wet rails
21:25:11  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
21:25:13  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Anson: Are you V?
21:25:23  <Stablean> <Anson> LOL, no
21:25:23  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Incognito :p
21:25:37  <Stablean> <Anson> but i like nuts and purr
21:26:41  <Stablean> <Anson> and everything that i wrote, i only got from the buy menu and a train that i bought ... V would know that without looking it up ...
21:27:03  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I still don't understand V's buy menu :p
21:27:35  <Stablean> <Anson> you mean the descriptions ?
21:27:45  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> just the range of options
21:27:45  <Stablean> <Anson> or the colored numbers ?
21:27:51  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> i know green is good
21:27:53  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> red is risky
21:27:55  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> and blue is safe
21:28:26  <Stablean> <Anson> green is medium ... not the fastest, but also not the weakest
21:28:44  <Stablean> <Anson> blue strong is strong but slow, red fast is fast but weak
21:29:15  <Stablean> <Anson> and yellow is very strong, but even slower and also double length
21:29:41  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> yellow is fo big ass trains!
21:30:40  <Stablean> <Anson> grey and light yellow are for pax : either high capacity local with lower speed and fast loading (ubahn, sbahn), or high speed intercity which are fast but need a while to accelerate and have lower loading speed
21:31:18  <Stablean> <Anson> similar applies to monorail and maglev, but i think there is no strong and superstrong
21:31:57  <Stablean> <Anson> and finally, there are several other groups, like chamaeleon, wet, slugs, etc
21:35:21  <Stablean> <Anson> the animal express is also a nice train ... based on maglev, thus not very high capacity, but loading speed 22/8=3 stages, speed 212, almost 30k power, and ignores CL completely!!!
21:35:40  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> so  anson  wich  tran  shord we go for
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21:37:10  <Stablean> <Anson> for fun, i might take wet or animal express :-) ... but for transporting coal, i would go for normal trains or at nost monorail (capacity too low on maglev)
21:38:00  <Stablean> <Big Meech> red you are jammed very nicely
21:38:42  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
21:39:04  <Stablean> <Anson> trains 220, 221 or 222 ...
21:39:19  <Stablean> <Anson> the fast monorail #2 just arrived
21:41:28  <Stablean> <Anson> capacity is almost the same on all of them, speed and power is best on train 222, but TE (acceleration) is very bad
21:42:30  <Stablean> <Anson> best TE (acceleration) on train 221, and still nice speed of 262 (the others have 231 and 311)
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21:43:30  <Stablean> <Anson> information brought to you by looking at trains in depot :-)
21:47:52  <Stablean> <Anson> happy, compare any of the old trains with train 221 ... they look almost the same (power and TE), but the new one is 100 kph faster, and also has only 4 loading stages
21:49:28  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
21:50:47  <Stablean> <Anson> starting ...
21:51:17  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, look at our cash :-)
21:51:37  <Stablean> <Anson> will cost around 200 million to replace traions
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21:52:04  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
21:52:10  <Stablean> <Anson> and now do the same when there is no cash available ... changing 6 trains per year, using all income ...
21:57:56  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, station is jammed more than before, but we are still replacing and depots slow it down
21:58:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:00:45  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> travstr
22:09:08  <Stablean> <Anson> waiting for the last train :-)
22:09:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok
22:10:00  <Stablean> <Anson> trains 46 on its way ...
22:14:02  <Stablean> <Anson> where did we get this jam from ? ... from cargo piling up at stations while we replaced trains, and now trains are very fast loading and then queuing att he merges in BBH ?
22:15:36  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... most stations had 2-4 trains waiting before, and now stations are empty and all trains waiting in front of BBH
22:15:46  <Stablean> <Anson> will take some time to clean up
22:16:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:21:36  <Stablean> <travstr> WTF
22:21:38  <Stablean> <travstr> WHAT THE F
22:21:54  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:21:57  <Stablean> <travstr> WHAT
22:21:59  <Stablean> <travstr> lol
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22:34:44  <Stablean> <bon> ughh that was some crapass afternoon >_<
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22:39:19  <Stablean> <bon> ehhh why is pink in the way
22:39:37  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> dont  no
22:44:37  <Stablean> <Anson> after a replacement, traffic will become much higher : stations fill up while trains are replacing in depots, and as soon as trains go again to the stations, rating increases
22:45:23  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:46:17  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> travstr  u got a  tran q
22:47:15  <Stablean> <bon> travstr you there? :)
22:48:39  <Stablean> <Anson> station rating = 0 years old = +13% rating ... max speed +100 = +10% ... in the long run, station rating will increase by 20% or more
22:48:50  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:49:08  <Stablean> <Anson> thuis stations will deliver a lot more cargo, and also the chance for increasing production is a lot bigger
22:49:18  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:50:16  <Stablean> <Anson> and if one station is not perfectly built for lots of trains and they queue up to the ML ...
22:50:38  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> i see
22:50:52  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, exactly that is what happened when i needed to go afk for half an hour and trains autoreplaced by meech's command
22:51:14  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:51:48  <Stablean> <Anson> with no cash reserves (by my replacement of all rails), it meant "bye bye" :-)
22:51:56  <Stablean> <bon> I've had 80+% with old slow trains but...ehh I guess different game settings
22:52:10  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:52:42  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: the autoreplace has cost 200-250 mil ... and we have 300 mil more now than before :-)
22:52:52  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
22:53:26  <Stablean> <bon> I just hope next map has similar towns like this...the pax trains has been some fun so far
22:53:36  <Stablean> <bon> oh and FIRS I hope...but err....meh I'll wait and seee
22:53:51  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> he he  yep
22:54:41  <Stablean> <bon> would be nice to be able to make small freights again :-/
22:54:43  <Stablean> <Anson> that was the other problem on that company ... costs for trains were differenmt, routes were much shorter, and income was very low, so that any drop in income immediately started to cause debt
22:55:13  <Stablean> <bon> especially the one time where I had eg ore mine going to metal workshop which sent the metal to another industry (I forgot name now) that had engineering supplies which were sent back to the ore mine
22:55:14  <happy_> if  we do get  firs  i am  going to  doo  won big   oil   well  net werk
22:55:21  <Stablean> <bon> therefore causing a helpful loop
22:55:23  <Stablean> <bon> get it? :)
22:55:37  <Stablean> <bon> was fun watching that for some time I admit
22:55:51  <Stablean> <bon> happy...that would be fun...and you could send all the gasoline to a town or whatever :)
22:56:01  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:56:19  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> and  sume  so i can  get  the suplies
22:56:33  <Stablean> <Anson> problem with firs is that you have only low production when it doesn't perfectly match or your island is missing one component of a chain
22:56:55  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yer  thats  tro
22:57:36  <Stablean> <bon> I see travstr got all stuck up again somewhere
22:57:46  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:58:08  <Stablean> <bon> duh...depot in bad spot
22:58:10  <Stablean> <bon> :)
22:58:22  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
22:58:34  <Stablean> <bon> I always put mine in middle of the line or by the dropoff station eh?
22:58:48  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
23:00:14  <Stablean> <bon> brb to eat finally >_<
23:00:26  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ok  have  fun
23:03:09  <Stablean> <Anson> bon: station rating improves when you have no cargo waiting: +16% for <100 waiting, and -35% for >1500 waiting
23:03:36  <Stablean> <Anson> thus you should always have a train waiting and pick up all new cargo immediately, if you want a high rating
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23:07:17  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... you see how smooth the station unloads, and no queue there ...
23:07:31  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
23:07:34  <Stablean> <Anson> the queue is at the merge of 2 lanes from legft and two from right
23:07:44  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
23:07:54  <Stablean> <Anson> merge 2+2->2 = queue
23:08:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> yep
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23:18:01  <Stablean> <bon> hrm..need to afk for at least half a hour..some crap day this is turning out to be -_-
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23:19:09  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> gn   be back  to mor
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