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Log for #openttdcoop.stable on 27th October 2013:
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00:06:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cyas have fun
00:06:07  <Stablean> <skyem123> bye!
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00:18:00  <Stablean> <skyem123> BYE!
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01:14:48  <Stablean> <bon> hi for a moment :)
01:15:23  <Stablean> <bon> mmm meh I see the industries are still running crazy :-s
01:15:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> need more ships ! i see small gaps :D
01:15:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> gotta pack that line
01:15:57  <Stablean> <bon> I'll do that on next map :)
01:16:44  <Stablean> <Djanxy> my lines are starting to get pretty packed too
01:17:39  <Stablean> <Djanxy> oh, and im first on fizzy production
01:18:09  <Stablean> <bon> :p ?
01:18:11  <Stablean> <bon> heh
01:19:05  <Stablean> <Anson> how much do you produce ?
01:19:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> 2660 atm
01:21:57  <Stablean> <Anson> and how much candy and toys ?
01:22:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> 1800 candy, no toys
01:22:37  <Stablean> <Anson> only 1560 fizzy here, but also 1856 toys and 2840 candy
01:22:49  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah :D
01:23:37  <Stablean> <Anson> now 1528 fiz, 1952 toys and 3512 candy :-) LOL
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01:25:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> afk a while
01:43:19  <Stablean> <bon> well...goodnight now anyway :)
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06:19:13  <Stablean> <Vinnie> morning
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06:25:31  <Stablean> <Anson> wow, what a name
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06:45:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> thst looks quite useless
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07:23:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
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07:32:04  <Stablean> <V453000> moo
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09:20:08  <Stablean> <Anson> hallo, jam
09:20:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
09:20:41  <Stablean> <Anson> can you üplease check what i have done ?
09:20:59  <Stablean> <Anson> doubled the line to dluids/poison ...
09:21:37  <Stablean> <Anson> from MSH01 to the drop/pickup
09:21:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's fine for now
09:22:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> the prio isn't needed, I would make the entry line longer
09:22:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> but meh
09:22:28  <Stablean> <Jam35> it's working
09:22:58  <Stablean> <Anson> there was quite a jam, but now its gone and we got a jam somewhere else ...
09:23:08  <Stablean> <Anson> i am working at !jam area
09:23:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> I see that :)
09:23:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> the slh was built without realising there was a town drop up there
09:23:51  <Stablean> <Anson> the label says SLH01, but it is a sideline as well as a mainline to the toy drop
09:24:33  <Stablean> <Anson> i just almost finished a second line ... no real double line, but one can serve as single SL and the other as single ML ...
09:25:47  <Stablean> <Anson> do you see the few blue rails left of the jam sign ?
09:26:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes
09:26:12  <Stablean> <Anson> i think they are not needed, but "just in case" i added that connection
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09:26:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> to be done properly
09:26:39  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hi
09:26:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
09:26:44  <Stablean> <Anson> there should(!) only be trains from the toy drop to SLH01
09:27:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> would mean a full 2nd there plus maybe 2 more slh's on that line to east
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09:29:05  <Stablean> <Anson> as it looks to me, right under the sign "jam area", there is almost only a crossing from east to southwest, and from south to north
09:29:51  <Stablean> <Anson> few trains connect otherwise, but most simply cross, and currently, that is done by merging first and then splitting again ... the worst that can happen to high traffic lanes
09:31:13  <Stablean> <Anson> just connected the lane to the toy drop ... let's see them coming
09:32:45  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, almost 6k toys and 6k candy waiting at their pickups ...
09:35:57  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, that big jam seems to be gone in a moment :-)
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09:45:34  <Stablean> <Anson> rating of toy factory was down around 20%, and 6k toys waiting ,,, now less than 2k and rating is improving ...
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10:00:19  <Stablean> <Anson> did you hear (read) what i said last night about production rising and getting problems and jams ? ... i said it would be around the year 2100 from experience ... now we have 2087 ...
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10:07:31  <Stablean> <skyem123> oops
10:08:37  <Stablean> <skyem123> i can have only 10 road veicles!
10:08:39  <Stablean> <skyem123> aww
10:34:50  <Stablean> <skyem123> by accidently demolishing water i lost most of my money...
10:34:57  <Stablean> <skyem123> *sigh*
10:35:31  <Stablean> <skyem123> thanks
10:35:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> don't do it again :P
10:36:04  <Stablean> <skyem123> note to self: LOOK before you drag a demolition selection.
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10:57:35  <Stablean> <skyem123> i (hopefully) made it so my stations don't have lines of waiting trains when there is a free space
10:59:41  <Stablean> <skyem123> YES!
10:59:43  <Stablean> <skyem123> it works!
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11:14:46  <Stablean> <bon> hi
11:15:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
11:15:06  <Stablean> <skyem123> hello
11:15:16  <Stablean> <bon> having fun as usual? :)
11:19:02  <Stablean> <skyem123> when does the map reset?
11:19:12  <Stablean> <bon> mmm hard to say I guess?
11:19:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> when people get bored
11:19:19  <Stablean> <bon> heh
11:19:33  <Stablean> <bon> well I'm close to leaving already so I guess that would depend on other players :)
11:20:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> also requires one important thing...
11:20:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> someone makes a map
11:20:36  <Stablean> <bon> jam35...mm I've been meaning to try make up an interesting one but its rather slow progress tho. maybe later in the week or another week :)
11:21:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok but that's not much good today :P
11:21:17  <Stablean> <bon> yeah true :)
11:21:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> (no pressure) :)
11:23:34  <Stablean> <bon> oh yeah jam35...is the Map_Preparation page on wiki the only one or is there another source for what kind of map settings to use (especially bridges/etc too)
11:24:35  <Jam35> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/10/16/creating-maps/
11:25:39  <Jam35> you cannot have any more information than that article :)
11:26:10  <Jam35> and yes it needs a link on the wiki main page
11:26:16  <Jam35> unless i'm missing it
11:27:07  <Stablean> <bon> ah thats a better place..thanks
11:27:37  <Stablean> <bon> mm and just as I was suspecting...single industry per town...cheers
11:28:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> yw :)
11:29:16  <Stablean> <bon> trains is always going to be NUTS or is that actually not set into stone? :P
11:29:30  <Stablean> <Jam35> no see the grf section
11:29:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> near the end i believe
11:33:51  <Stablean> <bon> heh nice to see they mentioned japantrainset too (btw the train grf list is on page 19 and downward)
11:35:18  <Stablean> <bon> so what have you two been doing with a lot of construction funds nonstop? :)
11:35:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> mainly doubling and improving syuff
11:35:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> *stuff
11:36:20  <Stablean> <bon> ah ok
11:36:54  <Stablean> <bon> well the monorail idea didn't work out well due to the slow loading time (should had realized that heh) but .. with the ships my circular food route kinda is amusing even if its not perfect :)
11:37:08  <Stablean> <bon> its the one that starts at the station named 'purple factory n.1u'
11:38:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> fast unloading works well there
11:38:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> slugs would work
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11:40:07  <Stablean> <bon> mm
11:41:45  <Stablean> <bon> as I mentioned to djanxy....next map if it seem nice enough landscape I could try build a bit of rail network at the start then in the 1940s start building many loops with wetrail and see how that works out :)
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11:42:11  <Stablean> <bon> but we'll see ofc
11:49:09  <Stablean> <bon> heh little 2x2 island :)
11:49:19  <Stablean> <bon> see sign list to find it
11:55:22  <Stablean> <bon> anyway going off for a bit now..will be in irc tho
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11:55:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> k cya
11:58:04  <bon> did have one minor question jam35...do players usually prefer square or rectangule map sizes the most?
11:58:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> think the standard here is 1024x512
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12:01:26  <Stablean> <skyem123> misclick?
12:01:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> demolition
12:01:50  <Stablean> <skyem123> huh?
12:01:56  <Stablean> <Jam35> town hated me
12:01:59  <Stablean> <skyem123> oh
12:02:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> so created new company
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12:09:34  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
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12:09:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> hello
12:09:50  <happy_> hi all
12:09:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi
12:10:11  <happy_> how  things  jam
12:10:31  <Stablean> <Jam35> fine thanks
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12:14:08  <bon> 1024x512...allright ty
12:14:11  <bon> hi dnz
12:14:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> or vice versa :)
12:15:31  <happy_> hi  bon
12:17:23  <bon> hi happy :)
12:17:23  <BiG_MEECH> wooooooooooooooooooOPLayazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
12:17:25  <bon> how're you?
12:17:45  <happy_> good  thanks   how ar  u  bon
12:17:59  <happy_> hi  big  meech
12:18:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> BM
12:18:40  <bon> doing ok, just working on some minor things atm
12:18:51  <happy_> nice
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12:19:29  <happy_> hi  vinnie
12:19:33  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello all
12:19:47  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> hi
12:19:51  <happy_> how  things   vinnie
12:19:59  <bon> hi vinnie
12:20:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> very good and with you?
12:20:08  <happy_> tgood
12:20:10  <bon> happy...you want order a motherboard for me? heh :P
12:20:24  <Stablean> <skyem123> should i upgrade my whole network?
12:21:01  <happy_> bon  doo  a  sign
12:21:34  <happy_> yes  if  u  whont to ade  mor  trans  skyem123
12:21:57  <Stablean> <skyem123> slow upgrade to PURR here i go!
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12:23:43  <BiG_MEECH> I'm Good Hustlers
12:23:57  <BiG_MEECH> BiG Money OTTD Hustlers
12:24:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you scamming people in ottd?
12:24:48  <bon> heh
12:25:25  <BiG_MEECH> Word :P
12:25:32  <BiG_MEECH> xD
12:25:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi Vin
12:25:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you speak street?
12:25:53  <Stablean> <Vinnie> sesamestreet?
12:26:07  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hi jam
12:26:30  <BiG_MEECH> the Snuffleupagus is strong inside of me
12:27:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> I was thinking more Oscar?
12:27:27  <Stablean> <skyem123> do wetrails connect to purr rails?
12:27:38  <Stablean> <Vinnie> is oscar the one living in shit?
12:27:45  <Stablean> <Jam35> Im saying you line in trash
12:27:49  <Stablean> <Jam35> *live
12:27:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> :)
12:27:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> exactly
12:28:19  <BiG_MEECH> you're right
12:28:21  <BiG_MEECH> I'm trash
12:28:35  <BiG_MEECH> matter of fact
12:28:40  <BiG_MEECH> I'm worse than trash.
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12:29:21  <Stablean> <Vinnie> are you comparing yourself to a hipster or a white guy trying to become black?
12:30:04  <bon> skyem123...you can connect any type of tracks together...whether the train will bother crossing over is sometimes another matter :)
12:33:58  <Stablean> <skyem123> PURR rail is expensive!
12:34:23  <Stablean> <skyem123> woah! thanks
12:34:43  <Stablean> <Vinnie> building time
12:34:58  <Stablean> <skyem123> *selects whole map*
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12:39:30  <Stablean> <skyem123> let the 600 km/h begin!
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12:40:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> lunch time
12:40:43  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> nice
12:41:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i dont understand how you make so mutch money with those trains
12:41:23  <Stablean> <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN!
12:42:05  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> wich   company  vinnie
12:42:09  <Stablean> <Vinnie> skyem123:
12:42:15  <Stablean> <happy tran  sport> ar  ok
12:42:21  <Stablean> <skyem123> kind people
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12:45:35  <bon> going out for a bit now anyway
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12:47:54  <Stablean> <skyem123> 374 Miles per Hour
12:47:57  <Stablean> <skyem123> wow
13:02:02  <Stablean> <skyem123> my stations seem to be holding up with the overload of trains
13:04:56  <Stablean> <skyem123> i have the fastest trains. ever
13:07:31  <Stablean> <Dnz-Ali> bye
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13:35:44  <bon> back for a bit now :)
13:36:50  <bon> jam35...I do perhaps have one another map that only need minor work to be ready but mm what do you think of a map thats based on large square islands and frequent hopping around? like a grid with water as the lines I guess
13:43:44  <Jam35> I'm not sure being frequently required to cross water is such a good idea
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13:44:24  <bon_> meh wrong window closed heh -_-
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14:12:35  <bon> hi djanxy :P
14:12:40  <bon> how doing?
14:13:37  <Djanxy> good thanks
14:13:42  <Djanxy> and you ?
14:14:41  <bon> doing ok
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14:17:58  <bon> djanxy so mm yeah the ships are still running in nonstop circle yet :P
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14:22:31  <bon> djanxy I was thinking a bit about the talk we had yesterday and hmm if you don't mind..what do you think of not having 'wait for full load' on that way if the industry output is low the circle would still keep moving round n round?
14:22:52  <bon> after all if everything came to a stop it'll probably be slow to get into sync again
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14:36:15  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> ahhh my eyeS
14:36:32  <bon> dr.dinosaur...heh...I've complained about the "bloody water" twice :P
14:36:50  <bon> at least you can find a bit of blue water....on my island :)
14:36:53  <bon> (wetrail yeah)
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14:38:49  <Djanxy> sorry bon, had a phonecall
14:39:25  <Djanxy> i would probably make an overflow instead of not running full load
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14:51:13  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
14:51:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> lo
14:51:55  <bon> djanxy mm I could think about that too in the next game
14:52:05  <bon> I'll see what I can be bothered starting with in the 1940s tho ofc
14:52:07  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh looks like i just missed a big rebuild
14:52:11  <bon> hi woodbutcher how're you?
14:52:22  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good thanks bon, how are you?
14:52:52  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh nice redo of the toys
14:53:14  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes just finished that
14:53:20  <Stablean> <Jam35> jams elsewhere now :p
14:53:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> always the way :)
14:53:40  <Stablean> <Jam35> needs a 3rd
14:53:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> but it's harf
14:53:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> poor wonningwell
14:53:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> lol
14:53:50  <Stablean> <Jam35> *hard
14:54:16  <Stablean> <Jam35> was in the way of progress :p
14:54:44  <bon> doing ok woodbutcher...just working on other things atm tho (since game seem...well...you know...I'm not sure what to really do anymore atm)
14:54:46  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> like hitchhikers
14:54:49  <bon> heh jam35 :)
14:54:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi bon
14:55:12  <Stablean> <Jam35> edit: i sorted the drop
14:55:18  <Stablean> <Jam35> the pick needs work
14:55:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> bon did you see my comments about the proposed map?
14:56:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> not sure if you were connected
14:56:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> and you did not reply
14:58:17  <bon> jam35...ah...hmm sorry about that but no I don't think I did :-s
14:59:36  <Jam35> [13:44] <@Jam35> I'm not sure being frequently required to cross water is such a good idea
14:59:52  <Jam35> sorry :)
15:00:05  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> how the hell is that ship there?
15:00:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> magic :D
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15:02:00  <Stablean> <Djanxy> jam, been looking at the Toy Garbage In
15:02:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> yees :)
15:02:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> seems to behave like the drop i had last game
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15:02:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> where it really prefers the straight inc line to platforms
15:02:38  <bon> yeah np jam35...I had one map that I kinda kept finding a bit silly...eg over twenty 17x17 "squares" with a tile to three of water inbetween each of them
15:02:54  <bon> djanxy 'garbage' eh? :P
15:03:08  <Stablean> <Djanxy> last game i tried to reduce the number of signals in the waiting bays (by 1), and it really seemed to improve the trains bility to "look ahead"
15:03:23  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ability*
15:03:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes that improves the distribution
15:03:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> this way is faster reacting but waiting trains
15:04:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> matter of choice really
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15:04:48  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah, if the station it full yes - but it seems like the trains were distributing better, even without queuing for the waiting bays
15:05:33  <bon> djanxy anyway by 'overflow' what did you exactly mean? did you meant that one where theres a depot that only can be accessed from a deadend piece of track?
15:06:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah bon, if a train comes to a station where all platforms are full, it goes to a waiting depot
15:06:40  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i got a couple of simple ones in this game for primary pickups
15:06:41  <bon> right...think I've already seen a few so should hopefully be able to make one myself
15:07:37  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i like to add them when production gets high at a primary, and many trains are added. if the production drops again it wont make all the trains jam
15:08:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> and they are often used at eg goods pickup, where the production can fluctuate
15:10:30  <Stablean> <Djanxy> anyways Jam, what i was on about. After some testing last game, it really seems like the pathfinder is somehow able to see ahead to the platforms, if there were not too many signals between. they behaved really differently.
15:11:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> ok, well lets try it...
15:11:10  <Stablean> <Djanxy> right now, they are only really choosing other inc lines if there's not a train in the way in the preferred line
15:11:16  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> lol famous last words! :)
15:11:18  <Stablean> <Djanxy> haha
15:11:26  <Stablean> <Jam35> easy enuf to change :P
15:11:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yeah
15:12:06  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> dit dit dit daa ditt ditt dit 10 die in horrible train crash :)
15:12:13  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> 10, that's nothing
15:12:43  <bon> woodbutcher :)
15:12:49  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> :p
15:13:19  <Stablean> <Djanxy> they still prefer the straight line, but seem more inclined to take another, even if the signals allow them to take prefered
15:13:33  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> damn lazy trains
15:14:07  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> ...
15:14:13  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> I'm gonna be random here
15:14:28  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> In the future, we will all wear suits are entire life, with tubes going in and out
15:14:38  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> and we live our whole life in science fiction
15:14:45  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> files of these suits, all connected up by hoses
15:14:49  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> *piles
15:14:56  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> VR everywhere
15:15:15  <Stablean> <Djanxy> you were right, that's pretty random :D
15:15:21  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> body isn't important anymore. Instead of server maintenance, we have body maintenance
15:17:45  <Jam35> laggy here
15:18:09  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> it's only laggy for me casue i'm downloading games
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15:20:57  <Stablean> <Djanxy> Jam, it did something anyways. Not seen a waiting train since, even saw one pick one of the outer platforms ;)
15:21:48  <bon> going for now..have fun till...the next map ;)
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15:21:55  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> cya
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15:28:32  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hihi
15:28:38  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
15:28:45  <Stablean> <skyem123> hello!
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15:35:29  <Jam35> hi MrD2DG
15:35:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hey Jam
15:36:32  <Stablean> <Jam35> need some money?
15:36:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> (i know you love tf :)
15:36:42  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Nah, I'll be okay :P
15:36:45  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Haha
15:36:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Thanks though
15:36:51  <Stablean> <Jam35> np
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15:42:45  <Sylf> !date
15:42:45  <Stablean> Sylf: 16 Mar 2113
15:43:28  <hjsb8q4rggrt> Do usa&Israel use chat &facebook 2 spy?!?!?!?
15:43:30  <hjsb8q4rggrt> Do they record &analyse everything we type?!?!?!?
15:43:30  <hjsb8q4rggrt> Do usa&israel use chat&social communicationprog(facebook&twitter) to collect informations,,,,can we call that spying!!!!
15:43:32  <hjsb8q4rggrt> هل تستخدم امريكاواسرئيل الشات والفيس بوك للتجسس!؟!؟!؟!؟!؟!؟!
15:43:32  <hjsb8q4rggrt> (*
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15:44:12  <Stablean> <skyem123> ...
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15:44:51  <Sylf> huzzah :D
15:45:16  <Sylf> damn spambot
15:45:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
15:48:07  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> gotta go, cyas
15:48:13  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
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15:49:41  <Jam35> I have a new map if required
15:51:19  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> I'm fine here tbh, up to you guys
15:51:38  <Jam35> I know you just started but it was mentioned before
15:51:56  <Jam35> Maybe it's a little early just yet
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15:57:22  <Stablean> <Jam35> yes (Anson) but now we have jams elsewhere
15:57:37  <Stablean> <Jam35> you want to build 3rd? go ahead :p
15:58:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> I cba tbh so I made new map
15:58:54  <Stablean> <Jam35> and some lag
15:59:21  <Stablean> <Jam35> but mostly that is my shit PC
15:59:48  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
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16:10:44  <Stablean> <skyem123> how can people talk when not on the server?
16:10:54  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> IRC
16:10:55  <Taede> linked to irc channel
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16:11:14  <Stablean> <skyem123> huh
16:12:08  <Stablean> <Anson> stablean is the server and also a relay between ingame chat and an irc channel
16:12:22  <Stablean> <skyem123> huh
16:12:54  <Jam35> see this: http://irc.openttdcoop.org/?channels=openttdcoop.stable
16:12:58  <Stablean> <Anson> what are you huh'ing about ?
16:13:30  <Stablean> <skyem123> oh...
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16:13:54  <skyem123> .
16:13:58  <Stablean> <skyem123> i see
16:14:00  <Jam35> hi
16:14:19  <Stablean> <skyem123> what i say comes up twice!
16:14:46  <Jam35> ?
16:14:56  <Jam35> on separate screens?
16:14:58  <Stablean> <skyem123> (in the irc window and openttd chat)
16:15:03  <Jam35> :) ok
16:15:41  <Anson> my irc screen is on my phone :-)
16:16:02  <Stablean> <skyem123> i have 3 monitors
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16:16:46  <Stablean> <Anson> i only have one, but rather large ... and my phone is HD too :-)
16:17:48  <skyem123> 1440x900 and a 1920x1080 and a 1360x768
16:19:54  <Jam35> I have two cans, a piece of string and a CRT
16:20:02  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Haha
16:20:33  <Stablean> <skyem123> my OLD CRTs broke
16:20:44  <Stablean> <skyem123> when i plugged them in...
16:21:03  <Stablean> <Anson> my comp screen is 12920 x 1200 :-) and it is 26" ...
16:21:45  <Stablean> <Anson> i had two crt before, and together, they had exactly the same size as my flatscreen now :-)
16:22:09  <skyem123> i had a very good one. 80hx
16:22:13  <skyem123> *80hz
16:22:19  <skyem123> pop!
16:22:22  <Jam35> mines monochrome
16:22:29  <Jam35> orange
16:22:58  <Stablean> <Anson> i have such a monitor too ... somewhere stores away ... the color was called "amber"
16:23:34  <skyem123> waitamin! anson, you said you had a crt, two tin cans and some string!
16:23:41  <skyem123> :-p
16:24:10  <Jam35> I stand corrected, not that it matters all you can see is burnt on menu's
16:24:48  <skyem123> wait i said anson...
16:24:57  <skyem123> *facepalm*
16:25:04  <skyem123> silly me
16:26:56  <Stablean> <Anson> my first "monitor" was a 14" b/w TV set (crt) ... the next was the amber crt monitor ... then a few others over the years, last were two gigantic cubes (17" or whatever, crt), followed by a 19(?) flatscreen, and finally this 26" flatscreen
16:27:28  <skyem123> those crts aren't actually mine...
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16:30:56  <Jam35> isn't theft illegal there?
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16:31:16  <skyem123> heh
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16:31:53  <skyem123> they belonged to my dad. i plugged them in. they broke.
16:35:30  <Jam35> admit it you fried them, I mean for one to break, fine. More than one? something's wrong :)
16:35:43  <skyem123> ok...
16:35:52  <skyem123> years apart...
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16:38:08  <skyem123> "player transport". *giglesnort*
16:39:21  <Stablean> <skyem123> DUN DUN DUN!
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16:47:13  <Stablean> <skyem123> do i need to stop saying "dun dun dun"?
16:48:00  <Stablean> <Jam35> skyem123: to answer your sign @ Runfingway, with more trains it will be a snagging point
16:48:10  <Stablean> <skyem123> hmm
16:48:10  <Stablean> <Jam35> atm is probably ok
16:48:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> depends what behaviour you want to see
16:48:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Jam waiting to happen IMO
16:48:53  <Stablean> <skyem123> well, the stations will clog up if i add more anyway...
16:49:07  <Stablean> <skyem123> horay for path signals!
16:49:18  <Stablean> <skyem123> and what do you think of my stations?
16:50:04  <Stablean> <Jam35> imagine many trains trying to get to Danfield: they will back up and stop traffic across the whole junction
16:50:22  <Stablean> <skyem123> backlog!
16:51:25  <Stablean> <skyem123> (i wonder weather this is what liverpool st station looks like at the back):-p
17:06:48  <Stablean> <Anson> jam, are you reading ?
17:13:23  <Sylf> Jam, if you load a new map, can you make sure it's set to "drive on right"?  :)
17:13:33  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Eww
17:14:01  <Sylf> :P
17:14:33  <happy_> sylf     jam did  not doo  the   this  map  v  did  this  map  i thinke
17:15:06  <Sylf> I don't remember a thing about this map
17:15:16  <Sylf> I remember from maps further back
17:15:28  <happy_> ar  ok  i see
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17:17:58  <Stablean> <Anson> maps on this server generally should have no grfpack grfs, with occasional exceptions like the mars landscape ?
17:18:45  <Stablean> <Anson> btw: i like mars better than toyland :-)
17:18:56  <skyem123> Oh no...
17:19:29  <skyem123> i don't like mars
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17:20:06  <happy_> y  dont  u like  mars  skyem123
17:20:09  <Stablean> <Anson> sky : i didn't say that i like mars ... i only like it better than toyland
17:20:15  <skyem123> oh
17:20:23  <Stablean> <Anson> you also could say that i like toyland less than mars :-)
17:20:25  <happy_> hi  wood
17:20:31  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi happy
17:20:40  <skyem123> i was worried that you were going to make a mars game...
17:21:13  <happy_> how  things  wood
17:21:35  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> good, can't complain but still do sometimes.  How about you?
17:21:49  <happy_> good  thanks
17:22:43  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> mrd2 did you stop trains on purpose?
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17:24:39  <happy_> wb  djanxy
17:24:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ty
17:25:21  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> oh the HQ looks cool
17:25:48  <happy_> yep
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17:30:19  <Stablean> <Vinnie> howdy partners
17:30:25  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
17:30:29  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
17:31:00  <happy_> hi  vinnie
17:33:16  <skyem123> HELLO!
17:36:47  <Stablean> <Djanxy> how are you guys liking the moodswinger trains ?
17:37:57  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> not familar with them so can't say
17:38:27  <Stablean> <Djanxy> the ones running in red company
17:39:51  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> seem good to me, but I don't really know.  I think jam or Anson pick them
17:40:01  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> or maybe happy
17:40:13  <Stablean> <Djanxy> just checked 2 random ones, one has 15k power, other has 30k :D
17:43:04  <Stablean> <Anson> 30/2=15 ... trains have doubled engines
17:43:43  <Stablean> <Djanxy> well yeah, but this is because of the mood swings
17:43:59  <Stablean> <Djanxy> they pick between 3 power values every time they visit a station
17:44:05  <Stablean> <Anson> yes ... for the other train, it is 15/2=7.5
17:44:17  <Stablean> <Djanxy> ye
17:45:15  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> so if you watch a trains info page it changes?
17:45:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> yup
17:45:36  <Stablean> <Anson> i don't know whether it is useful to have different trains on the same routes ... it mostly will end up in the weakest train determining how badly trains suffer from mountains, stopping and accelerating again, etc
17:45:47  <Stablean> <Vinnie> Djanxy: your company is better than mine :(
17:46:09  <Stablean> <Djanxy> define "better" :D
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17:46:14  <Stablean> <Anson> values change at every station or depot
17:46:21  <Stablean> <Muel> hhi
17:46:35  <Stablean> <Vinnie> it looks better
17:46:41  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
17:46:47  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> hi
17:47:01  <Stablean> <Vinnie> hello
17:47:09  <Stablean> <Muel> Vinnie:  you play on gamepark ?
17:47:27  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no, but i have in the past
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17:48:54  <Stablean> <Vinnie> no wait, i did in fact started a company today but it was to quiet so o left
17:49:22  <Stablean> <Vinnie> i was hopeing to see paragulis over there
17:49:32  <Stablean> <Muel> yyes i know
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17:53:30  <Stablean> <Woodbutcher> off again, cyas
17:53:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> cya
17:53:36  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> BB
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17:55:27  <Vinnie_nl> dinnertime
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18:45:08  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi ag
18:45:14  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
18:45:24  <Stablean> <Jam35> drive on right is for wimps :)
18:45:31  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> ^
18:46:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> i much prefer 'happy' style :)
18:46:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> drive on left/right/left
18:47:09  <Stablean> <Jam35> only kidding :)
18:47:12  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> :P
18:48:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> Anson you wanted me to read something an hour ago?
18:49:33  <Stablean> <Jam35> was it '4 die in crash' :P
18:50:39  <Stablean> <Jam35> why don't you just double that part properly>
18:50:41  <Stablean> <Jam35> ?
18:50:47  <Stablean> <Jam35> fairly simple
18:51:25  <Stablean> <Anson> more like 2 hours ago :-) ... don't remember what it was about
18:52:11  <Stablean> <Anson> but now, i am thinking about how to improve a bottleneck ... two double lines joined on one single line, to immediately split to 2 single lines
18:55:24  <happy_> wb  jam
18:55:36  <Stablean> <Jam35> hi, ty :)
18:55:44  <happy_> how  things
18:55:58  <Stablean> <Jam35> good how are you?
18:56:03  <happy_> good
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19:14:16  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
19:14:20  <Stablean> <MrD2DG> Hi
19:14:28  <skyem123> hello
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19:22:46  <happy_> hi  andy g
19:25:55  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Sorry Djanxy, I really wanted to get to that town
19:26:21  <Stablean> <Djanxy> nothing to be sorry about
19:26:28  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i stopped doing a while ago :D
19:26:38  <Stablean> <Djanxy> doing anything*
19:26:40  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> eh?
19:27:02  <Stablean> <Djanxy> i mean, dont think i will do much more on this map
19:27:32  <Stablean> <Djanxy> feel free to go to Brendworth if you can fit it in :D
19:27:59  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> Nah, i just wanted the toy shop for future plans
19:28:05  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> atm will just be shipping sweeties
19:28:21  <Stablean> <Andy G> who is red
19:28:35  <Stablean> <Djanxy> happy and co
19:29:06  <Stablean> <Andy G> there is a big jam in the bottom left conrner of the map
19:29:20  <Stablean> <Djanxy> probably a rebuild in the works
19:29:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> WIP :)
19:30:56  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> be back later :)
19:30:56  <Stablean> <Dr-Dinosaur> cya guys
19:31:06  <Stablean> <Jam35> bye
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19:31:18  <Stablean> <skyem123> the map showing company owned things in colour looks nice
19:31:24  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, i am checking the connections now
19:31:34  <Stablean> <Anson> you did some amazing work
19:31:48  <Stablean> <Jam35> no :)
19:31:51  <Stablean> <Anson> but at least one spot on the bottleneck has "merge before split
19:32:01  <Stablean> <Jam35> hax
19:32:20  <Stablean> <Anson> there is a difference between "amazing work" and "amazing result" :-) LOL
19:32:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> how long has that "need redoing" sign been at your fizzy factory by now ? :D
19:32:42  <Stablean> <Jam35> it has merge before split because that is where one hub ends and one starts
19:32:57  <Stablean> <Anson> ouch ... there is an unconnected rail
19:33:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> that isn't done
19:33:29  <Stablean> <Jam35> ready for station expand-o-ray
19:33:59  <Stablean> <skyem123> should we flee in terror?
19:34:19  <Stablean> <Jam35> probably not :p
19:34:25  <Stablean> <Djanxy> off till new map :D
19:34:31  <Stablean> <Djanxy> cyas
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19:34:37  <Stablean> <skyem123> what will happen if the station expand-o-ray malfunctions?
19:34:46  <Stablean> <Anson> wouldn't that unfinished track reduce load on the bottlenecks too, if we just connect it ?
19:34:53  <Stablean> <Jam35> becomes shrink-o-ray
19:35:08  <Stablean> <skyem123> will the WHOLE MAP become the same station?
19:35:43  <Stablean> <Jam35> expand-o-ray only has 16 tile range :p
19:35:53  <skyem123> phew!
19:36:00  <skyem123> wait...
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19:52:32  <Stablean> <Anson> hehe, some trains still are moving :-)
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19:58:57  <happy_> wb  vinnie
19:59:08  <Stablean> <Vinnie> he is spying on me
20:00:12  <happy_> how  is  spying  on  u  vinnie
20:00:36  <Stablean> <Vinnie> you see it every time i join
20:01:32  <happy_> i  say  it  to eney  players  when   john
20:04:26  <Stablean> <Vinnie> anson jam your disapointment is not behaving like it should
20:05:03  <Stablean> <Jam35> hm ty
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20:05:39  <skyem123> erm
20:05:48  <Vinnie_nl> its called karma
20:05:59  <Vinnie_nl> i never said hi and the game kicks me out
20:06:07  <skyem123> oh...
20:06:27  <Stablean> <Jam35> manners cost nothing :p
20:06:28  <skyem123> wow
20:06:38  <skyem123> *gigglesnort*
20:10:57  <Stablean> <Jam35> lol
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20:25:31  <bon> heheh
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20:30:41  <bon> still having fun wrecking rails jam35? :P
20:30:43  <bon> heh
20:31:15  <Stablean> <Jam35> :P finished for tonight methinks
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20:31:56  <bon> mm ok
20:32:10  <skyem123> i wish there was infrastructure sharing for openttd 1.3.2
20:32:41  <Jam35> er why?
20:32:57  <Jam35> how can you build a network and plan for that?
20:33:00  <skyem123> it seems usefull.
20:33:13  <skyem123> the binarys you can get are out of date
20:33:53  <bon> skyem I'm with you there
20:34:38  <skyem123> also, i was thinking of a game where there was a big main line that everyone used.
20:36:03  <bon> well I wouldn't go that far tbh
20:37:11  <skyem123> a massive railway - packed with trains
20:37:57  <skyem123> the trains with sad faces on trains look really silly. and so do the happy ones.
20:38:24  <bon> skyem...I still again wouldn't do that
20:38:33  <bon> first major problem: length and speed differing between players
20:38:45  <skyem123> overtake points?
20:39:01  <bon> skyem...then you may as well as rather build separate line using the same width you took
20:39:21  <bon> its only really useful for station sharing and little-traffics mountain lines etc
20:39:39  <skyem123> "it's not about why, it's about why not"
20:41:13  * bon drives a 80kph 10-wagons train onto skyem's line then
20:42:30  <skyem123> bon's train gets overtaken by faster trains
20:42:38  <bon> how when you only have one track?
20:42:51  <skyem123> not only one track
20:43:05  <bon> then I restate my point as I mentioned above
20:44:58  <skyem123> 4 wide track
20:45:17  <skyem123> 2 one way, 2 the other
20:45:30  <skyem123> regular cross over points
20:46:39  <bon> and how does 2 make a junction? too much mess compared to using normal single tracks
20:47:16  <bon> and with single track its much easier to add new stations anyway
20:47:39  <bon> thats what the sharing was really about..cargos not tracks
20:49:03  <bon> although if you're interesting in a different challenge you could try cargodest/cargodist with the passengers wanting to stop at particular towns instead of just any random ones
20:50:06  <skyem123> i don't think out my ideas very well do i?
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20:57:10  <Jam35> cya
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21:07:34  <bon> hi eirc
21:07:38  <Stablean> <eirc> hello
21:07:52  <Stablean> <eirc> mars looks good :D
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21:32:37  <bon> hi liuk
21:32:43  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi
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22:23:34  <skyem123> what do the colours on nicknames mean?
22:28:46  <bon> skyem..what client you using?
22:29:19  <skyem123> HexChat
22:33:41  <bon> skyem..in that case if its the user list then thats probably just due to different member levels
22:33:52  <bon> but as for in the chat window itself...hmm not sure..been a while I last used it
22:35:51  <skyem123> hmm... ok.
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22:53:56  <happy_> hi all
22:54:30  <Stablean> <Liuk Sk> hi  happy
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22:55:55  <skyem123> the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy is funny.
22:55:57  <bon> hi happy. you happy I hope? :P
22:55:58  <bon> heh
22:56:20  <happy_> hi  bon  how things
22:56:45  <happy_> yep i    i all  ways  happy  bon
22:57:45  <bon> :)
22:58:01  <bon> doing ok here..just working on some electrical related things atm (since..well..not playing atm so eh)
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23:36:52  <bon> connection issues as usual happy?
23:38:10  <happy_> i just   see  whont  new  grf   to  ade
23:40:02  <bon> oh ok
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23:40:21  <bon> btw you can do that from the menu while in a game too if you didn't know
23:40:55  <happy_> yep

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