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Log for #openttd on 9th March 2006:
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00:02:37  <_gass_> blathijs: you need it for .desktop file
00:02:55  <blathijs> _gass_: yes, I know
00:03:06  <_gass_> blathijs: to test the file, just copy it to /usr/share/applications in your debian desktop
00:03:16  <_gass_> then go to the menu/games
00:03:19  <_gass_> and search for openttd
00:03:48  <blathijs> _gass_: It is installed, but it's called openttd.64.png
00:04:05  <blathijs> so I updated the .desktop file
00:04:14  <_gass_> true
00:04:19  <_gass_> oh ... yes
00:04:26  <_gass_> i have one updated ... sorry
00:05:08  <blathijs> I don't think my window manager actuall shows freedesktop menus, though
00:05:51  <_gass_> whitch one is
00:06:01  <_gass_> http://pastebin.com/591802
00:06:19  <_gass_> blathijs: they all do now
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00:15:59  <blathijs> _gass_: enlightenment
00:18:02  <_gass_> does that have menus?
00:19:18  <blathijs> yes
00:19:25  <blathijs> It shows my "debian" menu just fine
00:19:30  <_gass_> so ...
00:19:31  <blathijs> (though I never use menus)
00:19:39  <_gass_> it will be there a games/openttd
00:20:00  <_gass_> blathijs: it is much nicier to show in the right menu, and not under debian
00:20:12  <_gass_> the linux source must have that .desktop file
00:20:26  <_gass_> in order to appear in wvery distribution's menu
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00:32:26  <blathijs> _gass_: well, for debian, the debian menu files are still standard
00:32:38  <_gass_> true, true
00:32:41  <blathijs> :-)
00:32:58  <_gass_> blathijs: but ... it  is nicier to have it also in the other menu
00:33:06  <blathijs> And I can't find proper documentation on how debian menu files and .desktop files are supposed to interact properly
00:33:25  <blathijs> so, I'm gonna leave at this for now (also looking at the clock, it wasn't his late just now!)
00:40:21  <ln-> btw, you aren't seriously thinking openttd would ever be a part of debian, are you?
00:44:59  <blathijs> I did, but I gave that up some time ago
00:45:31  <blathijs> Still, supplying a package that properly cooperates with debian is nice
00:48:21  <_gass_> blathijs: they don't interact
00:48:33  <_gass_> they are different things
00:48:48  <blathijs> _gass_: yes, but they should probably end up in the same meny
00:48:52  <_gass_> the .desktop one you only copy (install) in /usr/share/applications
00:49:02  <blathijs> also, there seems to be some kind of .desktop database that needs updating
00:49:14  <_gass_> no
00:49:18  <_gass_> only copying
00:49:31  <_gass_> i tested it
00:49:40  <_gass_> and talked in #freedekstop
00:49:45  <_gass_> #freedesktop
00:50:22  <_gass_> blathijs: ln-  having a true debian package for openttd is very good
00:50:34  <_gass_> also it is by mantaining the debian dir in the source
00:50:57  <_gass_> by that way, users can easely install and upgrade the openttd package
00:51:37  <blathijs> anyway
00:51:39  <blathijs> sleep for me
00:51:40  <blathijs> gn
00:51:54  <_gass_> ok
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01:47:26  <dobey> hola
01:47:58  <dobey> are you guys looking for new app icons?
01:55:44  <tank> do you already have some done? i am no dev, but if noone of them answers here in some time, what about just posting them in the forums?
01:56:17  <tank> as far as i know are the current icons quite new, but well, as is said, i am no dev:)
01:59:30  <dobey> http://www.gnome.org/~dobey/openttd-icons.png
01:59:31  <dobey> :)
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02:07:45  <tank> looks nice:)
02:13:45  <dobey> thanks
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07:26:27  <peter1138> hmm
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08:26:39  <tron_> peter1138: ?
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08:30:03  <peter1138> morning
08:30:13  <peter1138> nothing in particular :)
08:30:39  <tron_> just wanted to know if you're present
08:30:46  <tron_> well, about gfx.c:142
08:31:08  <tron_> did you look in which function this assert is in?
08:31:30  <peter1138> yeah
08:31:32  <peter1138> GfxFillRect
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08:36:27  <peter1138> my suspicion: unsupported newgrf resolver check, resulted in invalid sprite being selected
08:36:33  <peter1138> s/check/var/
08:37:30  <tron_> but why GfxFillRect?
08:38:40  <tron_> grep '\<GfxFillRect\>' *.c|wc -l
08:38:40  <tron_> 122
08:38:43  <tron_> *sigh*
08:39:56  <peter1138> that is, of course, and interesting question
08:40:53  <peter1138> and sigh also, as i need to go to work
08:41:10  <tron_> GfxFillRect(245, 36, 256, 297, -2147483558)
08:41:12  <tron_> WTF?
08:44:30  <peter1138> hmm
08:44:43  <tron_> it's just the color, but still
08:45:17  <ln-> maybe some bitshifting would help
08:45:38  <tron_> ok, bit31 is the transparent bit
08:51:26  <peter1138> heh
08:52:14  <KUDr> Tron: did you see that? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=414553&sid=b3e4e3f88c63203ab3cf2997dd4f8bc9#414553
08:52:46  <tron_> KUDr: a + (a - b) = b .... sure
08:53:12  <KUDr> ok
08:55:21  <egladil> well, if a == b that is indeed true
08:55:50  <tron_> and if it's modulo 2, it's also true
08:55:56  <tron_> blabla
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09:01:56  <egladil> yes
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09:02:41  <MeusH> hello
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09:58:52  <MeusH> o_O
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10:04:46  <init> Anyone noticed that sometimes when trains are faced with a red signal, they reverse direction? This is not a problem out on a train line, but at stations it can be a real PITA...
10:05:10  <blathijs> init: It's a deadlock prevention timeout thing
10:05:53  <init> blathijs: Is it? This happens almost immediately when the train runs into the signal...
10:06:28  <init> blathijs: I'm aware that they do this after a while, but that is in the amount of tens of seconds...
10:07:11  <TL|Away> I found a script that hacks servers and that scripts logs on to an IRC server, listening for controlling commands
10:07:25  <TL|Away> how tempting it is to logon to that channel
10:07:31  <TL|Away> even more to put them down
10:07:36  <TL|Away> in prison if possible
10:07:39  <TL|Away> stupid script-kiddies
10:07:48  <SpComb> huh?
10:08:06  <SpComb> ah
10:08:16  <SpComb> using IRC for evil bots stuff is a old thing
10:08:21  <TL|Away> yeah
10:08:26  <TL|Away> and this script didn't cleanup itself
10:08:29  <TL|Away> which is even more stupid
10:09:04  <TL|Away> it too kme 24 hours before I located it :s :) Hehehe
10:11:04  <SpComb> locatedit?
10:11:26  <TL|Away> that such script was running on one of my 100 mbit servers yes
10:11:31  <TL|Away> now the question: how did it get in
10:11:34  <TL|Away> (me is a bit frustrated ;))
10:11:36  <SpComb> :o
10:11:41  <SpComb> that's not fun
10:11:53  <BurtyB> heh, thats life on the big internet these days
10:12:08  <TL|Away> And I hope they kill all those persons who make such scripts
10:14:06  <TL|Away> do they have any idea how much money it can cost, if not located soon enough
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10:17:32  <Kjetil> The way internet crime is handled is a joke. If I where to report a hacker to the police. The police department would take my server as evidence and probably dismiss the case after a couple months. So it breaks down to losing a server and no one being punished for it
10:18:27  <TL|Away> Kjetil: they have no right to do that, so ;)
10:18:46  <BurtyB> they dont?
10:18:48  <TL|Away> Kjetil: but indeed, reporting it to your local police station doesn't work
10:18:59  <TL|Away> so I reported it to the FBI
10:19:05  <TL|Away> maybe that works better
10:19:07  <BurtyB> i would expect they have every right to obtain evidence
10:19:07  <TL|Away> doubtful
10:19:10  <TL|Away> but he, you have to try :p
10:19:17  <TL|Away> no, not every right :)
10:19:28  <TL|Away> they can't passtrass your property without a warrent
10:19:39  <TL|Away> and you cant get one that victimize the victim even more
10:20:12  <BurtyB> and if you withhold evidence you are a bit of a retard if you expect anything to be done
10:20:19  <TL|Away> That is the other end
10:20:24  <TL|Away> but they can request any data they want
10:20:27  <TL|Away> for the rest it is: up yours
10:20:46  <BurtyB> they can, but if they cant get their hands on the HDD they cant be sure you didnt make it up
10:20:49  <TL|Away> http://213.171.197.201/~terry/oday.pl <- don't run it :p
10:22:58  <Kjetil> *puts it in his virus dir with all the malicous code he has collected over the years*
10:23:25  <TL|Away> yeah, you do that
10:23:36  <TL|Away> I hate it so much
10:23:38  <TL|Away> you don't wnat to know
10:24:00  <Kjetil> It's kind of interresting to see how they do stuff like that
10:24:28  <TL|Away> does the url still work?!?!?!
10:25:28  <TL|Away> then t was a bad move of me to post it
10:25:28  <TL|Away> lol
10:25:29  <TL|Away> oh well
10:26:10  <BurtyB> hmm fasthosts might get removed
10:31:23  <TL|Away> sorry about my blabla, but it annoyed me ;)
10:31:41  <BurtyB> heh, been there before TL|Away its anoying but little you can do about it
10:32:18  <TL|Away> it takes time, which I don't have
10:32:22  <TL|Away> my gf doens't like it :p
10:32:53  <BurtyB> killall -19 gf
10:37:45  <Qball> BurtyB: theycatch all signals
10:42:39  <BurtyB> TL|Away that URL has gone now :)
10:49:51  <TL|Away> BurtyB: pfew :)
10:49:53  <TL|Away> bye all :)
11:03:06  <peter1138> perfect response to bobingabout
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11:30:32  <Qball> he he
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11:55:40  <init> Is there a reference for keyboard commands? I would especially like to know if there is a keyboard command for "Save game", since I just went into a funny state where the game did respond to my mouse clicks with the left mouse button. Right button, as well as mouse moves, and the simulation all worked fine. I had to kill the game though, and it would have been nice to be able to save it first...
11:57:16  <Qball> init wait for an autosave and kill it then
11:57:26  <Qball> but keybinding list would be nice... maybe it allready exists on the wiki?
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12:02:46  <init> Qball: Wait for autosave...good idea...thanks
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12:16:18  <Bjarni> hi people
12:16:25  <Bjarni> anybody from UK here right now?
12:16:30  * BurtyB is from the uk
12:16:35  <Bjarni> good
12:16:53  <Bjarni> do Charles Clarke have a history of being stupid or something?
12:17:34  <Bjarni> I mean, today he clearly shows ignorance
12:18:00  <Bjarni> have you heard what he said?
12:18:13  <BurtyB> nop, i dont normaly watch/listen to the news
12:19:19  <Bjarni> well, you need a little background story to understand what he said
12:19:41  <RoySmeding> mmm salmiak
12:21:34  <Bjarni> early in the Muhammed cartoon thing, some ambassadors from Muslim countries wanted a meeting with the Danish prime minister where they wanted to be informed about how he would punish the newspaper. He rejected that because he can't punish the press in a free country, but since they wanted to talk about it, an already planned meeting the the minister of foreign affairs would be made longer so they could talk about it
12:21:46  <Bjarni> then it turned out they didn't want to talk about it anymore
12:22:11  <Bjarni> now Charles Clarke said that the Danish prime minister did wrong in not doing what the ambassadors wanted
12:22:12  <Bjarni> o_O
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12:23:00  <Bjarni> I know he is a politician, but still...
12:23:35  <Noldo> Bjarni: Charles Clarke wants to punnish newspaper?
12:23:42  <Bjarni> it appears so
12:24:15  <Bjarni> at least he claims it's a mistake not to have the meeting where the prime minister should inform them on the plan to punish the newspaper
12:24:46  <BurtyB> seems a bad idea to me, tho i dont believe in religion
12:25:29  <Bjarni> the thing is that it's written in the constitution that the politicians don't have power over the newspapers. It's as simple as that
12:27:21  <Bjarni> but.. do he usually tell other countries not only to break their constitution, but also to just do as other countries fancy them to do?
12:27:42  <Noldo> Bjarni: I think the prime minister should have met the ambassadors and say the stuff to their face
12:28:04  <Noldo> Bjarni: now it seems that he just didn't care
12:28:52  <Bjarni> it's always easy to such things now, but at that time it was not a real case (this was months ago) and he would need at least 80 hours each day if he should meet with everybody whenever they wants to
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12:29:36  <Noldo> When was it then?
12:29:44  <Bjarni> he actually did right is saying that it's business for the minister of foreign affairs since it's ambassadors from other countries
12:30:00  <Bjarni> and note: they didn't want to talk about it at that meeting anyway
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12:32:28  <CIA-5> tron * r3803 /trunk/ (rail_cmd.c train_cmd.c tunnelbridge_cmd.c vehicle.h): Change the second parameter of UpdateSignalsOnSegment() from Direction to DiagDirection as that's what it really operates on
12:33:33  <Bjarni> hmm
12:34:33  <Bjarni> I guess I will have to wait until somebody from UK shows up, that actually do know at least a little about what Charles Clarke do to hear if is really is as ignorant as it appears
12:35:01  <Qball> lol
12:35:42  <peter1138> well
12:35:44  <peter1138> i've no idea
12:36:07  <Qball> lol@ b-about
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13:27:54  <Bjarni> <Qball>	lol@ b-about <-- where?
13:28:12  <Bjarni> the feature request or something on the forum?
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14:36:30  <RoySmeding> hmm. anyone here know how to upload things to sf
14:37:43  <hylje> ftp
14:38:04  <Bjarni> ftp
14:38:23  <hylje> helpful comment of the day clearly
14:39:08  <Bjarni> why do you want to upload to sf?
14:39:43  <Qball> that is a good question.
14:40:05  <RoySmeding> well, i'm making a site for someone
14:40:24  <RoySmeding> he said there was no ftp though
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14:40:31  <RoySmeding> but i'll have a look
14:40:35  <Qball> you found frontpage again?
14:41:07  <RoySmeding> no
14:41:27  <RoySmeding> i HATE frontpage.
14:41:34  <RoySmeding> plain html ftw
14:41:35  <hylje> notepad
14:41:37  <hylje> :-)
14:42:23  <Qball> no wordpad... Ask the DS guy
14:43:02  <Bjarni> you mean AlexFili?
14:43:40  <Prof_Frink> no, vim.
14:43:44  <Qball> yes
14:43:48  <RoySmeding> i generally use nano
14:44:04  <Qball> not pico?
14:44:08  <Qball> it's smaller?
14:44:14  <Bjarni> I just tested Igor2Code's bot that for the insults part
14:44:20  <Bjarni> it ended up interesting
14:44:34  <Bjarni> <jmp_ghli>	>Bjarni> Bjarni tells AlexFili: If you ever waste my time again with another one of these sonnets to your stupidity, I will uppercut your jaw so hard that your head snaps backward and then snaps forward in perfect synchronicity for me to head butt you into a seven-year coma.
14:45:00  <Bjarni> I didn't write that... it just ended up like that when I asked for an insult fitting for AlexFili
14:45:04  <Bjarni> clever bot
14:45:09  <hylje> :-)
14:45:15  <Qball> sure is
14:45:25  <Qball> a well, it was fun
14:45:42  <Bjarni> 	<jmp_ghli>	>Bjarni> Bjarni tells AlexFili: Perhaps your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.
14:46:57  <Bjarni> 	<jmp_ghli>	>Bjarni> Bjarni tells AlexFili: When God was throwing intelligence down to the Earth, you were holding an umbrella.
14:47:28  <Bjarni> we should add this bot to this channel :)
14:47:34  <hylje> "Web domains in Kibonia (.KB) are available for only fifteen schwas a year. They can be reserved forever, provided that payment of fifteen schwas per year is received in advance."
14:48:07  <Bjarni> how much is 15 schwas?
14:48:33  <hylje> dunno
14:48:44  * Prof_Frink registers 640.kb
14:48:54  <Prof_Frink> That should be enough...
14:48:59  <RoySmeding> hmm i'm probably being stupid, but ftp.sourceforge.net seems to be for file releases
14:49:00  <Bjarni> lol
14:49:13  <RoySmeding> or should i upload to /incoming and mv to the project dir over ssh?
14:49:24  <Bjarni> I thought you wanted to do a file release when you wanted to upload to sf
14:49:35  <RoySmeding> ah, not really
14:49:38  <RoySmeding> just a website page
14:51:14  <MrRexxie> I have a friend who cant play anything beyond 0.4.0.1 without his "system" process using up tons of CPU cycles (ending in OTTD being unplayable)
14:51:20  <MrRexxie> on windows, obviously
14:51:22  <Kjetil> hylje: where did you read that ?
14:51:30  <MrRexxie> has anyone else had that problem?
14:51:40  <hylje> Kjetil: someone said that on slashdot
14:51:48  <Bjarni> update to 0.4.5 and see if the problem presists
14:52:00  <MrRexxie> it does
14:52:16  <Kjetil> Kibology is a humorous Usenet-based satire of religion, partly parodying Scientology.
14:52:22  <MrRexxie> 0.4.0.1 works, but anything newer then that is a problem :/
14:52:57  <Kjetil> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibonia )
14:52:59  <Bjarni> dominik81                           1y 2w 2d 20h 45m <-- time since last login... something tells me that he is not coming back
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14:53:55  <Kjetil> Give it some thime
14:53:58  <Kjetil> time
14:54:05  <Igor2Code> jmp_ghli is a bot, invited by Bjarni :)
14:54:16  <glx> !hi
14:54:17  <jmp_ghli> >glx> glx steals 's cheap asian UTP crimp tool while greeting .
14:55:40  <Bjarni> !insult glx
14:55:41  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells glx: Grasp your ears firmly and remove your head from your ass
14:55:59  <Bjarni> stop stealing bandwidth from the poor bot
14:56:01  <Bjarni> :p
14:58:55  <Qball> !insult Bjarni
14:59:12  <Qball> lame bot
14:59:16  <Qball> !insult glx
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14:59:38  <Bjarni> !insult Qball
14:59:40  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells Qball: Have you considered suing your brains for non-support?
14:59:57  <Bjarni> !reg
14:59:58  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Regisztracio magyarul: http://user.peticio.hu/igor2/projects/jmp/jmpreg.html | registration in english: http://user.peticio.hu/igor2/projects/jmp/jmpreg_en.html
14:59:58  <MrRexxie> it seems to be a result of missing music files
15:00:47  <Bjarni> you can only use it if you are considered a trusted client
15:02:05  <Qball> aah there goes my possibility to insult you using the bot
15:02:32  <Qball> not that you need one, you do a fine job yourself.
15:03:02  <Bjarni> it's more like a protection against lamers
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15:03:32  <Bjarni> so we can insult AlexFili while he can't reply :D
15:03:47  <Qball> insulting yourself protects you from yourself?
15:03:49  <Qball> odd
15:04:21  <Bjarni> that's not what I meant
15:04:27  <Qball> no?
15:04:33  <Bjarni> we can insult his type while he can't insult us
15:04:38  <hylje> .
15:04:40  <Qball> you did kinda say that, didn't you
15:04:45  <hylje> thats liek lame
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15:05:27  <Bjarni> !whatis stupid
15:05:29  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Stupid \Stu"pid\, a.  1. Very dull; insensible; senseless; wanting in understanding; heavy; sluggish; in a state of stupor; -- said of persons. |O that men . . . should be so stupid grown . . . As to forsake the living God! --Milton. |With wild surprise, A moment stupid, motionless he stood. --Thomson. | 2. Resulting from, or evincing, stupidity; formed without skill or genius; dull; heavy; -- said of things. |Observe what loads
15:05:50  <Bjarni> !whatis railroad
15:05:52  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Railroad \Rail"road`\ (rl"rd`), Railway \Rail"way`\ (rl"w`), n. 1. A road or way consisting of one or more parallel series of iron or steel rails, patterned and adjusted to be tracks for the wheels of vehicles, and suitably supported on a bed or substructure. | Note: The modern railroad is a development and adaptation of the older tramway. | 2. The road, track, etc., with all the lands, buildings, rolling stock, franchises, etc.,
15:06:59  <Bjarni> !beer2
15:07:00  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> here is your stupid  beer.
15:07:15  <Bjarni> but I don't want stupid beer
15:07:21  <Cipri> Is it free beer?
15:07:21  <Bjarni> it's for AlexFili
15:07:28  <Bjarni> hehe
15:07:34  <Bjarni> Cipri woke up
15:07:42  <Bjarni> you can have it
15:07:56  <Cipri> And it's only 4pm. Man I'm up early...
15:08:06  <Qball> you want smart beer?
15:09:39  <hylje> i prefer my food dumber than me
15:09:48  <hylje> cereal outsmarting me is annoying
15:10:18  <Igor2Code> lol :)
15:11:41  <Qball> with all the genetweaking
15:11:43  <Qball> everything is possible
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15:49:10  <AlexFili> hi folks
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15:49:16  <AlexFili> Bjarni some bad news about openttd for DS
15:49:22  <AlexFili> turns out there isnt enough RAM :(
15:49:45  <Igor2Code> :)))))
15:50:02  * AlexFili steals a RAM chip from psp
15:50:16  <AlexFili> meh, ttd psp probably sucks anyways
15:50:17  <Qball> how much ram does it have?
15:50:25  <AlexFili> must suck to have such a small screen and bad controls
15:50:29  <AlexFili> Qball, 4mb i think
15:50:46  <Igor2Code> you _think_? :)
15:50:51  <AlexFili> um, yeah lol
15:51:24  <AlexFili> but anyway... ive decided, im not going to cry about it
15:51:33  <Qball> stop then
15:51:53  <AlexFili> i was annoyed when my favorite dos games didnt work, and when ttd couldnt come out on ds... but the only thing i can do now is rise above it
15:52:02  <AlexFili> "no use crying over spilt milk" right?
15:55:20  <AlexFili> so, any plans for 0.4.6?
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15:56:31  <Bjarni> yeah
15:56:38  <Bjarni> we plan NOT to release it for DS
15:56:43  <AlexFili> roflmao
15:56:49  <AlexFili> seriously? :p
15:56:50  <Igor2Code> :)
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15:56:55  <AlexFili> im curious whats gonna be in it next
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15:57:14  <Belugas> There is a 0.4.6 planned? strange...
15:57:23  <AlexFili> Belugas probably lol
15:57:40  <Bjarni> actually the 0.4.6 is AlexFili's idea
15:57:52  <AlexFili> Bjarni you will make 0.4.6 wont you? :p
15:58:02  <AlexFili> eventually :p
15:58:08  <Bjarni> personal I think it will be 0.5.0 with way better map handling
15:58:22  <AlexFili> oh
15:58:28  <AlexFili> so nothing from 0.4.5 to 0.4.6?
15:58:34  <AlexFili> or 0.4.9 for that matter? lol
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15:58:53  <Bjarni> we went from 0.4.0.1 to 0.4.5
15:58:54  <Igor2Code> why not 0.4.0..0.4.99 then? :)
15:58:58  <AlexFili> lol
15:59:01  <Bjarni> we don't use every number
15:59:09  <Kjetil> How much memory does the DS have ?
15:59:16  <Igor2Code> yeah,you have to leave numbers for other projects :>>
15:59:19  <AlexFili> lol
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15:59:21  <Bjarni> Kjetil: we don't know
15:59:26  <AlexFili> i cant wait for 0.6
15:59:34  <AlexFili> Kjetil apparently not enough for ttd
15:59:35  <Bjarni> why?
15:59:53  <AlexFili> Bjarni because it will be better then 0.5 lol
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16:00:02  <Kjetil> I was just wondering since ottd runs on other handhelds
16:00:07  <AlexFili> lol
16:00:09  <AlexFili> other meaning psp right?
16:00:20  <AlexFili> the psp has more ram, and the ds doesnt have enough, thats all there is to it
16:00:22  <Bjarni> Kjetil: not sucky ones :p
16:00:37  <Bjarni> AlexFili: or nokia S770
16:00:38  <ln-> so, Bjarni, are you going to københavn on april the 5th?
16:00:45  <Kjetil> AlexFili: other meaning a real handheld like gp2x
16:00:45  <AlexFili> at least ds lasts longer and has more origional games :p
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16:00:52  <AlexFili> LOL
16:00:55  <AlexFili> real = expensive? :p
16:01:04  <Bjarni> ln-: I don't know... what's special about the 5th of April?
16:01:08  <Kjetil> how much does a psp cost ?
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16:01:15  <AlexFili> £170-180
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16:01:35  <ln-> Bjarni: "Dear Developer,
16:01:35  <ln-> You are invited to attend a Universal Application Workshop hosted by
16:01:35  <ln-> the Apple Developer Connection. This free, three-hour briefing will
16:01:35  <ln-> go in-depth, covering effective methods for creating Mac OS X
16:01:37  <ln-> applications that run on both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs,"
16:01:46  <AlexFili> Bjarni what is a power pc?
16:01:55  <Bjarni> gah
16:02:01  <AlexFili> is it like a palm pc?
16:02:03  <AlexFili> or laptop?
16:02:05  <ln-> NO
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16:02:43  <Bjarni> AlexFili: it's a more powerful CPU than you can dream of
16:02:48  <AlexFili> :o
16:02:52  <AlexFili> cool
16:03:08  <Kjetil> AlexFili: the gp2x costs around 120
16:03:16  <Igor2Code> !whatis powerpc
16:03:21  <jmp_ghli> >Igor2Code> PowerPC  <processor, standard> (PPC) A   designed to meet a  which was jointly designed by , , and  (the PowerPC Alliance).The PowerPC standard specifies a common  (ISA), allowing anyone to design and fabricate PowerPC processors, which will run the same code.The PowerPC architecture is based on the IBM  architecture, used in IBM's  s.Currently  and  are working on PowerPC chips.  The PowerPC standard specifies both 32-bit and
16:03:25  <AlexFili> Kjetil really? :S
16:03:32  <AlexFili> why didnt someone tell me that before i got a DS?! lol
16:03:43  <Kjetil> you could have checked...
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16:03:48  <AlexFili> lol never mind
16:04:00  <Bjarni> Kjetil: don't demand too much
16:04:11  <AlexFili> ?
16:04:28  <Kjetil> Bjarni: haha
16:04:31  <AlexFili> thanks for unbanning me btw lol
16:04:36  <Bjarni> yeah
16:04:45  <Bjarni> that will be £10
16:04:55  <AlexFili> lol
16:05:04  <AlexFili> you should pay me £15 for making me waste my time on source
16:05:11  <AlexFili> when i could have played an evening of toyland instead lol
16:05:14  <Bjarni> ln-: any idea why I haven't got such an invitation?
16:05:29  <Bjarni> somehow it appears to be wrong not to have one
16:05:39  <AlexFili> lol
16:05:52  <AlexFili> well guys im off for now
16:05:53  <AlexFili> cya ;)
16:06:00  <AlexFili> someone kick sacro for me k?
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16:06:12  <Qball> finally
16:06:16  <Bjarni> !insult AlexFili
16:06:17  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells AlexFili: I'll bet your father spent the first year of your life throwing rocks at the stork.
16:06:30  <Bjarni> !insult AlexFili
16:06:31  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells AlexFili: Have you considered suing your brains for non-support?
16:06:42  <ln-> Bjarni: dunno, i did nothing special to get it, it just arrived in my inbox the other day.
16:06:42  <Bjarni> I'm being too nice
16:06:52  <Igor2Code> :>
16:06:57  <Eddi|zuHause> you afraid of telling him that in his face?
16:07:08  <Belugas> Maley Of DS
16:07:33  <Bjarni> ln-: can you forward it to me?
16:07:41  <Bjarni> silly question
16:07:46  <Bjarni> you can forward Emails :p
16:07:47  <Kjetil> "Alexfili for tard"
16:08:07  <Qball> I think I got that e-mail too
16:08:08  <Bjarni> ln-: can I make you forward that Email to me?
16:08:13  <Bjarni> o_O
16:08:20  <ln-> sure
16:08:39  <Bjarni> now I really want that Email to see what it's all about so I can contact Apple and ask them why I don't get such info
16:08:40  <Qball> During the briefing, you may also bring your software to a mobile
16:08:40  <Qball> compatibility lab to test your application on a new Intel-based
16:08:40  <Qball> Macintosh system and consult with an Apple engineer about specific
16:08:40  <Qball> issues you encounter. Please note that lab resources are limited and
16:08:42  <Qball> space will be available on a first-come, first served basis.
16:08:48  <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: i guess you'd be better off asking "would you" instead ;)
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16:09:15  <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: I got the power of banning. No need to be polite then :p
16:09:39  <Qball> it's also against his religion
16:09:42  <Eddi|zuHause> no, i did not mean polite, i mean specific ;)
16:10:09  <Bjarni> Qball: what religion?
16:10:25  <Eddi|zuHause> or otherwise... don't ask at all... just demand ;)
16:10:28  <Qball> your religion forbids being polite, you shouted that at me
16:10:41  <Bjarni> I did?
16:10:53  <Bjarni> are you sure it was me?
16:11:13  <Qball> positive
16:11:24  <Kjetil> It was Bjarni's evil twin brother (TM)
16:11:43  <Qball> there cannot be 2 people that ugly.
16:12:01  <Bjarni> !insult Qball
16:12:02  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells Qball: I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass.
16:12:38  <Qball> Bjarni is so lazy, he needs a bot to insult people
16:13:07  <Bjarni> !insult Qball
16:13:07  <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells Qball: May you end your days with more hair on your ass than on your head, you molester of goat penis.
16:13:29  <Belugas> Too many people to insult, maybe ? :)
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17:20:06  <AlexFili> hey Bjarni
17:20:12  <AlexFili> you know, even version 0.7 is planned
17:20:15  <AlexFili> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Roadmap
17:20:38  <AlexFili> "0.6.0
17:20:38  <AlexFili> What you expected for years
17:20:38  <AlexFili> Yes, the new map array and the new graphics system will be ready in 0.6.0.
17:20:46  <AlexFili> "0.7.0
17:20:46  <AlexFili> The first stand-alone version
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17:24:20  <coppercore> wii the game ever go 3d :o
17:24:30  <AlexFili> coppercore no idea lol
17:24:37  <AlexFili> the new graphics make it a bit more 3d like though
17:24:46  <AlexFili> coppercore if you wanna see TTD in 3d, look at locomotion
17:24:51  <AlexFili> but dont look too hard, cos its crap lol
17:24:54  <Belugas> it's not on roadmap?  oh well...
17:25:47  <AlexFili> i dont think so
17:25:50  <AlexFili> it only goes to 0.7
17:27:18  <Kjetil> I will never play 3d ottd
17:27:30  <Belugas> In order to be 3d, there is an awfull lot of things to rewrite. And I mean a LOT.
17:27:46  <Belugas> what would be the gain?  i don't know
17:27:53  <Kjetil> nothing
17:27:56  <blathijs> You would be writing a new game, that borrows some code and mechanics from TTD
17:28:18  <Kjetil> It would probably ruin the game
17:28:21  <Belugas> indee blathijs. 2d is quite fine for me
17:29:27  <coppercore> Belugas: there is nothign wrong with 2d :)
17:29:42  <coppercore> i'm just saying it'd be nice to have a 3d version
17:29:44  <Belugas> I know :)  That's why I like it the way it is!
17:29:45  <coppercore> that doesn't suck
17:30:29  <Belugas> I meant that the work for making it 3d does not cover the gains...
17:31:02  <ln-> locomotion isn't 3D either
17:31:13  <Belugas> indeed itis not :)
17:31:41  <Belugas> although it looks like it.
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18:40:02  <CIA-5> belugas * r3804 /branch/tfc_newmap/ (16 files in 4 dirs): [tfc_newmap] -synch to trunk r3801 to r3803
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19:48:59  <Born_Acorn> Very ghostly.
19:49:06  <MiHaMiX> indeed.
19:49:14  <MiHaMiX> moooo.... moooooo.... :DD
19:49:30  <Born_Acorn> argh!
19:49:32  * Born_Acorn cowers
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19:55:13  <SpComb> foo
19:55:21  <Belugas> bar
19:55:51  <MiHaMiX> baz
19:56:05  <SpComb> quux
19:56:12  <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: the flyspray patch for displaying OS
19:56:19  <Bjarni> is it really that hard to add?
19:56:25  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: no, i just always forgot
19:56:34  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: i'm starting it right now :)
19:56:48  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: and sorry :)
19:56:51  <Bjarni> I think it was rev 565, but I'm not sure
19:56:58  <Bjarni> I might have forgotten the real number :p
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20:01:07  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni:  FS#565 ? Javascript tabs break URLs in History tab
20:03:54  <Bjarni> Reason for closing: - Implemented in devel
20:03:54  <Bjarni> Additional comments about closing: - rev 565
20:04:06  <Bjarni> that is what the mail told me
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20:04:26  <Bjarni> http://flyspray.rocks.cc/bts/task/757
20:04:30  <MiHaMiX> ahh
20:04:32  <MiHaMiX> thx
20:06:40  <ln-> bjarni, did you receive my forwarded email?
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20:10:47  <Bjarni> ln-: yes
20:10:48  <Bjarni> thanks
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20:13:08  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: where are the cvs/svn for flyspray? since i cannot find it :-(
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20:14:42  <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: hmm
20:14:47  <Bjarni> searching
20:15:00  <Bjarni> I found the url at one time
20:15:02  <Bjarni> I think
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20:15:21  <Bjarni> http://flyspray.rocks.cc/development?DokuWiki=d7cb659e47d7f742c3a0ffe33a029b27
20:15:28  <Bjarni> that was not that hard :p
20:16:16  <MiHaMiX> thanks
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20:19:49  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: errr..
20:20:13  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: this patch will not apply to the current version
20:20:29  <Bjarni> :(
20:20:36  <Bjarni> they fucked it up?
20:21:07  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: way too many changes before 0.9.8 and rev 564
20:21:22  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: it fucked up the current flyspray
20:21:54  <Bjarni> ahh
20:21:59  <MiHaMiX> reverted
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20:24:07  <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: i'll upgrade once they release 0.9.9
20:24:16  <Bjarni> ok
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20:27:01  <MiHaMiX> bbl
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20:37:57  <CIA-5> peter1138 * r3805 /trunk/ (9 files in 2 dirs): - [FS#62] Fix doxygen comments to refer to the correct parameter. (sulai)
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20:55:33  <SpComb> ping pong!
20:56:01  <hylje> pong
20:56:04  <peter1138> lilo sucks
20:56:19  <hylje> what this time
20:56:26  <BurtyB> yes
20:56:40  <TrueLight> lilo: I DO NOT CARE
20:56:40  <SpComb> lilo rocks!
20:56:41  <TrueLight> argh
20:56:49  <SpComb> lilo: I love it when you tell me about stuff
20:57:04  <SpComb> quite seriously
20:57:07  <Eddi|zuHause3> /ignore lilo
20:57:08  <hylje> srsly
20:57:09  <BurtyB> lilo: i will not work in mcdonalds
20:57:21  <hylje> does he have some kind of global highlight? ;p
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20:57:47  <BurtyB> yus... "lilo" = retard alert and the screen flashes red
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20:58:01  <hylje> niec
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23:29:01  <Born_Acorn> gah lilo does too many global messages
23:29:09  <Born_Acorn> I had 3 pings while playing a game
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