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05:30:52 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:35:16 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2EF10.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:35:16 *** dp is now known as dp-- 05:46:06 <Celestar> hmmm 05:46:11 <Celestar> still 2 bug reports for 0.4.8 05:58:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7597B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:06:05 *** Lord^^Pas is now known as PAStheLoD 06:10:09 <peter1138> hmm 06:10:11 <peter1138> max_speed += (max_speed / 2) * v->u.rail.railtype; 06:10:42 <peter1138> i guess that 06:10:51 <peter1138> 1) that needs to make el rail the same as normal rail 06:11:11 <peter1138> 2) it might want to use v->u.rail.compatible_railtypes 06:11:16 <peter1138> or 06:11:27 <peter1138> a multiplier. hmm. 06:14:40 <Celestar> er what? 06:16:13 <Celestar> peter1138: that bridge pathfind bug annoys me :S 06:16:39 <peter1138> ah, you found it now ;) 06:16:53 <Celestar> there's an official bug report now :) 06:16:53 <peter1138> Celestar: before elrails, maglev had a multiplier of 2 there 06:16:57 <peter1138> now it has a multiplier of 3 06:17:15 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77FB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:17:34 <peter1138> basically, elrail trains go faster around bends than normal rail 06:19:31 <Celestar> peter1138: rofl, that bridge-pathfinding bug is weird in the bridge branch 06:19:41 <Celestar> sometimes NTP takes one route, sometimes the other :o 06:19:56 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:21:43 <peter1138> :) 06:21:57 <Celestar> this smells like a desync 06:22:03 <Celestar> ok 06:22:06 <peter1138> does it even work? 06:22:10 * Celestar goes diving into solaris 06:22:20 <Celestar> good Q :P 06:22:21 <peter1138> it has to totally ignore the railtype there 06:22:30 *** Ayoze [n=kvirc@cm-213-141-50-126.telecable.es] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:29:32 <peter1138> hmm 06:29:34 <peter1138> yeah 06:29:45 <Celestar> hell 06:29:55 <Celestar> I don'T even know how to configure my network devices :( 06:29:58 <peter1138> you didn't add bridge length 06:30:01 <peter1138> hmm 06:30:05 <Celestar> not YET 06:30:19 <Celestar> that's one of the last big remaining tasks (before custombridgeheads) 06:30:43 <peter1138> +·····tile_end = GetOtherBridgeEnd(tile); 06:30:44 <peter1138> +·····si.cur_length += DistanceManhattan(tile, tile_end) * DIAG_FACTOR; 06:30:44 <peter1138> +·····tile = tile_end; 06:30:54 <peter1138> (big?) 06:31:45 <Celestar> well 06:31:46 <Celestar> no :) 06:32:00 <Celestar> I just didn't do it yet :P 06:32:10 <peter1138> hmm, in bridge: 06:32:17 <peter1138> ········// need to find the exit of the tunnel. 06:32:17 <peter1138> ········if (IsTileType(tile, MP_TUNNELBRIDGE)) { 06:32:17 <peter1138> ············if (IsTunnel(tile)) { 06:32:17 <peter1138> ················if (GetTunnelDirection(tile) != ReverseDiagDir(direction)) { 06:32:20 <peter1138> in trunk: 06:32:23 <Celestar> tile = GetOtherBridgeEnd(tile); // TODO add bridge length to costs 06:32:23 <peter1138> // need to find the exit of the tunnel. 06:32:23 <peter1138> if (IsTunnelTile(tile) && 06:32:23 <peter1138> GetTunnelDirection(tile) != ReverseDiagDir(direction)) { 06:33:17 <peter1138> maybe that's an optimization 06:33:23 <peter1138> only checks the tiletype once in bridge 06:33:49 <peter1138> i don't know how well that would be compiler-optimized 06:35:31 <peter1138> i think the sanest thing is to backport this. unless it doesn't work. you said it was flipping? 06:36:26 <Celestar> yes 06:36:31 <Celestar> investigating ... 06:37:53 <CIA-3> celestar * r4951 /branch/bridge/pathfind.c: [bridge] -Fix: NTP now penalized bridge according to their length 06:39:07 <Celestar> 1 down, 2 to go 06:40:16 <peter1138> hmm 06:40:21 <peter1138> i tell you what 06:40:25 <peter1138> that is a *horrible* loop 06:40:36 <peter1138> with gotos etc... 06:45:03 <Celestar> pathfind.c? 06:45:04 <Celestar> yes 06:45:07 <peter1138> yeah 06:45:18 <Celestar> tis disgusting 06:45:46 <CIA-3> celestar * r4952 /branch/bridge/pathfind.c: [bridge] -Fix: TPFMode1 now penalizes bridges according to their length 06:45:50 <Celestar> 2 down, 1 to go. 06:48:11 <CIA-3> celestar * r4953 /branch/bridge/pathfind.c: [bridge] -Remove a comment that accidently slipped in during the last commit 06:49:50 <Celestar> hm ... I think NPF does it correctly anyway 06:50:37 *** ernie__ [n=ernie@c198133.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:50:37 <Celestar> no 06:50:43 <Celestar> NPF doesn't plan over bridges at all 06:50:52 * Celestar backports his changes from xbridge 06:51:01 *** ernie_ [n=ernie@c198133.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #openttd 06:51:03 <ernie_> re 06:51:16 *** ernie_ is now known as ernie_hh 06:51:52 <Celestar> blathijs: 06:51:54 <Celestar> you there? 06:53:12 <peter1138> i'm not convinced it behaves correctly yet 06:53:37 <Celestar> in trunk? 06:53:55 <peter1138> yea 06:53:55 <peter1138> it works ok if the bridge is in the path 06:54:07 <peter1138> but what if a train starts pathfinding from the middle of a bridge? 06:54:15 <Celestar> it doesn't 06:54:22 <Celestar> pathfinding happens at junctions 06:54:39 <Celestar> and I haven'T done anything in trunk :) 06:55:21 <Celestar> me->meeting(); 06:59:11 <peter1138> Celestar: seems it does 07:01:07 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:01:19 <peter1138> not very often 07:01:26 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has joined #openTTD 07:01:27 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [" c"] 07:04:46 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:07:19 <peter1138> Celestar: a train will pathfind from the middle of the bridge 07:11:05 *** SimonRC_ [i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 07:11:05 *** SimonRC [i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:17:05 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.6.160] has joined #openttd 07:23:50 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 07:26:51 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has joined #openTTD 07:30:00 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 07:34:34 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:46:04 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:55:46 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:59:07 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 07:59:56 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:05:33 <Celestar> peter1138: under what circumstances? 08:06:46 <peter1138> turning a train around when it's on a bridge 08:06:51 <peter1138> for one 08:07:01 <peter1138> there are other circumstances, but i haven't determined what yet 08:07:28 <Celestar> suggestions 08:07:48 <KUDr> peter1138: servicing (searching for depot)? 08:11:57 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 08:12:50 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 08:12:53 <peter1138> KUDr: could be 08:13:51 <peter1138> Celestar: did you say that a train's tile points to the end of the tunnel ? 08:14:07 <peter1138> (whereas for bridges it won't) 08:18:56 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit ["My BNC will keep you warm, vist #teamlag, #hexus.cs"] 08:22:12 <Celestar> peter1138: in bridge/ v->tile always points to the end of tunnel/bridge 08:22:26 <Celestar> in trunk/ v->tile points to end of tunnel, and currentl tile on bridge 08:23:44 <peter1138> ah 08:23:58 <peter1138> hmm 08:24:00 <peter1138> so, uh 08:24:12 <Celestar> and I'm too much in bridge/ at the moment 08:24:14 <Celestar> wow 08:24:18 <Celestar> those Woodcrests are nice 08:24:22 <peter1138> you have some weird magic going on with x_pos / y_pos... 08:24:33 <Celestar> peter1138: "me?" 08:28:32 <peter1138> ok, we :P 08:29:21 <peter1138> so anyway 08:29:30 <peter1138> i guess my plan of using the code from bridge/ isn't going to work 08:29:33 <peter1138> at least, not simply :/ 08:29:46 <peter1138> otoh, it needs to be fixed for 0.4.8 08:30:20 <Celestar> does it? 08:30:24 <Celestar> I mean did it work before? 08:30:25 *** SimonRC_ is now known as SimonC 08:30:39 <peter1138> yes, it worked until the railtype check was put in 08:30:54 *** SimonC is now known as SimonRC 08:31:18 <Celestar> oh 08:31:21 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37E48.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:31:27 <Celestar> then it needs fixing 08:31:59 <peter1138> hmm, i have a "stuff" build here 08:32:02 <peter1138> r2335M 08:32:03 <peter1138> heh 08:32:30 <peter1138> NTPEnum is quite different 08:32:36 <peter1138> with different loops and gotos 08:32:48 <peter1138> so which fool keeps using goto? heh 08:34:13 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B762B4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:44 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B83204.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:42:16 <roboman> im off to dinner 08:44:41 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has joined #openttd 08:47:28 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-3365.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:54:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7597B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:54:29 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 08:55:52 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 08:56:26 <Celestar> man 08:57:55 <webfreakz> ? 09:05:34 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4954 /branch/yapf/ (openttd.vcproj openttd_vs80.vcproj yapf/blob.hpp): 09:05:34 <CIA-3> [YAPF] Fix: missing files in VC2003 project files. 09:05:34 <CIA-3> Fix: warnings in non-debug build - both VC2003 and VC2005 (thanks to webfreakz) 09:07:50 <Celestar> network_interface=ipge0 {dhcp protocol_ipv6=yes} <= this should configure ipge0 with dhcp right? 09:09:21 <Celestar> er 09:09:24 <Celestar> wrong window 09:11:26 <Darkvater> morning 09:11:28 <Fujitsu> Silly suns. 09:11:31 <Fujitsu> Morning, Darkvater 09:11:36 <Fujitsu> *Suns 09:11:40 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4955 /branch/yapf/openttd.vcproj: [YAPF] Fix: missing new files (not added on r4954 by mistake) 09:11:43 <KUDr_wrk> morning my lord 09:15:42 <HentaiXP> Darkvater, you work on the windows part of openTTD? 09:16:02 <Darkvater> possibly 09:16:04 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: pm 09:16:20 <HentaiXP> wondering if you can make it more user friendly 09:16:24 <HentaiXP> user\LUA 09:17:02 <KUDr_wrk> Darkvater: ok 09:17:08 <Darkvater> which part? The compile? 09:17:20 <HentaiXP> since it wants to save to program files by deafult (auto save) when ran under a accoutn with user status it will just get aut save failed 09:17:23 <HentaiXP> auto 09:17:45 <Darkvater> ah yes, that. It is planned to be more user-aware 09:17:48 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:18:00 <Darkvater> eg use documents&settings 09:18:11 <HentaiXP> yes that would be great later on 09:18:27 <webfreakz> i hope you can switch the option to save settings to docs&settings off? 09:18:29 <HentaiXP> seeing as I run under user only, unless admin is needed, than I just use runas 09:18:46 <peter1138> my 09:18:48 <webfreakz> becaus i like the way it saves the config files in the openttd directory 09:18:50 <peter1138> you are a rarity :) 09:18:51 <Darkvater> until that is fixed you can install openttd to your my documents for example 09:19:20 <HentaiXP> yep Darkvater, I just gave write perm to my user for the autosave dir 09:19:31 <peter1138> most windows users i know just ignore that and run as administrator all the time 09:19:54 <Darkvater> HentaiXP: that's not what I meant :). I meant install openttd to your my documents folder so it's only for you and is only there so you have no problems at all 09:20:14 <HentaiXP> peter1138, we raritys are in ##windows 09:20:47 <Darkvater> HentaiXP: got a question though. I think the official user-profile convention on windows would be to save user-stuff in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\<name>, right? 09:20:57 <Darkvater> I see most games save in My Documents though 09:21:07 <HentaiXP> you could do that 09:21:26 <HentaiXP> like I believe %appdata%\openTTD\autosave\ 09:21:47 <Darkvater> yes that is what I was thinking about 09:21:48 <Darkvater> but 09:21:59 <Darkvater> if you are not a computer literate you'll never find that folder 09:22:09 <HentaiXP> yeah exactly as I though 09:22:12 <Darkvater> appdata is even a *hidden* folder 09:22:24 <Darkvater> windows is really fucked :s 09:22:35 <HentaiXP> so I would think %userprofile%\openTTD\autosave\ would be better 09:22:54 <Darkvater> 1. that is totally against conventions and 2. still hard to find 09:25:07 <Darkvater> lool 09:25:10 <Darkvater> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directx9_c/Gaming_with_Least_Privileged_User_Accounts.asp 09:25:16 <Darkvater> What this means is that you should not place save games in \Program Files, instead they should go in a sub-folder in \My Documents 09:25:24 <Darkvater> Also you should not place temporary application data in \Program Files or \My Documents, instead it should be placed in Application Data folder 09:25:54 <Darkvater> ok so I guess we got the official status 09:26:33 <Darkvater> I think best is to use My Documents\OpenTTD for all cause you'll probably want to access your savegames, config file, custom data and screenshots 09:27:27 <Darkvater> HentaiXP: is that satisfying? 09:27:35 <HentaiXP> sorry back 09:27:41 <HentaiXP> parents bothering me 09:28:01 <Darkvater> hmm I wonder if we should put the highscore file in all users\ :) 09:28:34 <HentaiXP> yeah that would be good, but alas I'm no coder I wish I could help 09:28:58 <Darkvater> no just asking if the convention is satisfiable 09:29:26 <HentaiXP> Darkvater, wonder how would you install for all users? 09:29:44 <HentaiXP> would you install the game in my docs on all user accounts? 09:29:58 <Darkvater> no install would be to program files\ 09:30:19 <HentaiXP> I thoguht so 09:30:19 <Darkvater> and when started settings are read from my documents\openttd etc. 09:30:26 <HentaiXP> yeah 09:31:06 <HentaiXP> thats satisfying if you really care about my idea, since I'm probably the only person to complain abou tit 09:31:50 <Darkvater> no we had these plans for some time now 09:32:03 <Darkvater> can you write a summary of this conversation into http://bugs.openttd.org/task/51 ? 09:32:04 <Fujitsu> HentaiXP, back before I became fully enlightened, I griped about this. 09:32:07 <Darkvater> would be great :) 09:32:20 <HentaiXP> fully enlightened? 09:32:32 <Darkvater> wtf's up with flyspray? search works like crap 09:32:37 <HentaiXP> Fujitsu, don't tell me it involes nix? 09:32:40 <HentaiXP> Darkvater, ok 09:32:53 <White_Rabbit> when constructing things that require a pop-up window (e.g. stations, depots and waypoints), why do those windows always pop up right in front of the construction menu? why can't the windows stay out of each others way, like with the 'follow vehicle' windows? 09:33:03 <Fujitsu> HentaiXP, I mean, back when I didn't use Linux full-time. 09:33:15 <HentaiXP> ok 09:33:31 <HentaiXP> yeah I don't care much about unix file system layout 09:34:19 <HentaiXP> Darkvater, I'll have reg than write it up, ok? 09:34:33 <Darkvater> I think anon also works 09:36:07 <Celestar> hm 09:36:08 <Celestar> hi 09:38:01 <Darkvater> 'ello 09:40:00 <peter1138> hi! 09:40:06 <peter1138> i'm ed winchester 09:40:06 <Darkvater> !ih 09:40:22 <Celestar> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: com/sun/management/viperimpl/console/BaseConsoleOptionsManager (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0) 09:40:27 <Celestar> rats 09:41:17 <peter1138> mice 09:44:04 <Fujitsu> rabbits 09:44:04 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:57:35 <peter1138> squirrels 09:58:51 <Celestar> suxx 10:03:47 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 10:04:01 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.6.160] has quit ["Look ma, no script!"] 10:11:12 <Celestar> blathijs: assistance required 10:12:47 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040400]"] 10:14:02 *** valhallazzzw is now known as valhallasw-ne 10:15:17 <peter1138> Darkvater: for the bridge stuff, i think number 2, with a note to say that it can be removed when the bridge branch is merged 10:17:17 *** Darkvate1 [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:17:25 <Darkvate1> bah 10:17:30 <Darkvate1> can anyone paste me back the stuff since 12:00? 10:17:39 <Darkvate1> connection died :s 10:17:58 <Celestar> <@peter1138> Darkvater: for the bridge stuff, i think number 2, with a note to say that it can be removed when the bridge branch is merged 10:18:00 *** Darkvater [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:18:05 *** Darkvate1 is now known as Darkvater 10:18:06 <Celestar> nothing else of importance 10:18:18 <Darkvater> Celestar, KUDr_wrk PM's? 10:18:21 <peter1138> 11:15 <@peter1138> Darkvater: for the bridge stuff, i think number 2, with a note to say that it can be removed when the bridge branch is merged 10:18:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 10:18:31 <peter1138> uh 10:18:37 <peter1138> too slow ;p 10:18:38 *** DarkSSHClone [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 10:18:39 <Darkvater> peter1138: ok that's fine 10:18:41 <Darkvater> wtf 10:18:49 *** DarkSSHClone was kicked from #openttd by Darkvater [fuck off you retard] 10:18:54 <peter1138> attack of the clones! 10:19:39 <Darkvater> he 10:21:42 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:22:33 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@125.23.8.19] has joined #openttd 10:26:29 *** TechSalvager [n=Justin@unaffiliated/hentaixp] has joined #openttd 10:26:47 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:35:20 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176118226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:39:53 *** HentaiXP [n=Justin@unaffiliated/hentaixp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:44:43 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 10:50:59 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:51:30 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-98-73-243.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:51:52 <Darkvater> peter1138: going to backport bridgehack2.diff as well or shall I do that? 10:54:35 <Celestar> me->food(); 10:54:46 <TechSalvager> hdc1 =? 10:56:38 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:56:44 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:00:50 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 11:08:37 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:10:07 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 11:15:27 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has joined #openttd 11:21:44 <Sacro> afternoon all 11:22:10 <webfreakz> hello 11:23:09 <Sacro> hey webfreakz, how are you? 11:25:08 <webfreakz> fine :) 11:25:15 <webfreakz> what about you? 11:26:37 <Darkvater> peter1138: rats 11:27:31 <webfreakz> chickens 11:28:30 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 11:29:32 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 11:30:28 <peter1138> hmm? 11:31:19 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@CPE-60-227-113-138.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:33:06 *** Leissi [n=NNSCRIPT@pc6.htk.fi] has joined #openttd 11:34:06 <Leissi> hi 11:34:39 <Leissi> I was wondering if anyone could help me with OTTD graphics, as i can't seem to find a way to use them. 11:35:23 <Sacro> webfreakz: not bad thanks 11:35:44 <webfreakz> leissi: what's the problem? 11:35:48 <Sacro> Leissi: copy newgrfs into the ./data/ folder, then add them to your openttd.cfg under a [newgrf] section :) 11:36:24 * webfreakz points at Sacro's explaination 11:36:50 <Leissi> ok,i will test that 11:40:21 <webfreakz> und? 11:40:32 <Leissi> "custom .grf has an invalid format" 11:41:27 <Celestar> which grf are we talking about? 11:43:30 <Darkvater> peter1138: he there you are http://fuzzle.org/o/uglypathfix2.diff < commit? 11:44:46 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-528571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:45:44 <Leissi> I was actually looking up for new airport .grfs, but i just might try something else, if you are willing to guide me. 11:47:11 <peter1138> Darkvater: ya 11:48:17 <Darkvater> hmm wtf 11:48:24 <Darkvater> I think trunk/ is broken 11:48:41 <Darkvater> my train truns around at every waypoint instead of going through 11:49:09 <Darkvater> with old PF 11:49:30 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:49:37 <Sacro> Leissi: theres quite a few nice newgrfs around 11:49:38 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:49:56 <peter1138> Darkvater: yes, mine do too 11:50:03 <peter1138> not always though 11:50:07 <Darkvater> or is that a difficulty setting? 11:50:11 <Darkvater> but NPF doesn't do that 11:50:14 <peter1138> shouldn't be 11:50:14 <peter1138> hmm 11:50:21 <Leissi> Sacro: yes, i know. but would you guide me to mend them into the game, with some "easyish" way 11:50:50 <Sacro> Leissi: download newgrfs, copy newgrfs into the ./data/ folder, then add them to your openttd.cfg under a [newgrf] section :) 11:50:53 <Darkvater> wtf...it is really broken 11:50:55 <Darkvater> who di this? 11:50:58 <roboman> hello 11:51:10 * Sacro whistles and points at roboman 11:51:20 <Sacro> hey roboman 11:51:27 <Leissi> Sacro: thank you. I wonder why i couldn't find an explanation as easy as that on the tt-forum =? 11:51:46 <Sacro> Leissi: its there somewhere, its my usual reply 11:51:56 * roboman hops on brianettas nightly 11:52:48 <Darkvater> peter1138: I think 'turn around' should *NOT* be active for waypoints 11:53:22 <Sacro> i dont think trains should be able to turn around at all 11:53:47 <Darkvater> it looks like it does turn around on slopes (foundations) 11:54:09 <webfreakz> /status away 11:56:58 <roboman> did anyone see the vandal on brianettas server last game 11:57:21 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: domain down? 11:57:59 <Sacro> roboman: heard about him 11:58:17 <roboman> he vandalised my company 11:58:19 <Sacro> roboman: someones had my company a few times 11:59:58 <Sacro> devs: is it possible to have host blocking similar to IRC, like via domains and things? 12:08:21 <peter1138> Darkvater: no, it shouldn't 12:12:37 <Darkvater> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/184 12:12:38 <Darkvater> there 12:14:14 <Darkvater> why is there explicit code to reverse a train at a waypoint? 12:14:20 <Darkvater> case OT_GOTO_WAYPOINT: 12:14:20 <Darkvater> v->dest_tile = GetWaypoint(order->station)->xy; 12:14:20 <Darkvater> result = CheckReverseTrain(v); 12:14:21 <Darkvater> break; 12:14:21 <Darkvater> ? 12:16:58 <Fujitsu> Hahahahaha. 12:17:02 <Fujitsu> Terrific. 12:17:07 <Fujitsu> svn blame is your friend. 12:17:22 <Fujitsu> Who committed the offending line? 12:17:26 <Leissi> hi and ho again. dumb questions need someon to ask them. how can I mend .patch files into the game? i tried tortoisesvn, but couldnt's make anything out of it :F 12:18:47 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 12:19:00 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has joined #openTTD 12:20:03 <Darkvater> Leissi: do you know how to program? 12:20:18 <Leissi> Darkvater: very, very basically 12:20:37 <Leissi> equalling almost no skill :P 12:21:25 <Darkvater> then I would advise against using .patch files :) 12:21:58 <peter1138> Darkvater: read it properly :P 12:22:09 <peter1138> it doesn't mean "reverse at a waypoint" 12:22:22 <peter1138> it means "if the next order is a waypoint, check if we need to reverse to reach it" 12:22:57 <Leissi> Darkvater: with my skills, that would prolly be the best answer.. maybe i'll just stick to .grfs then :( 12:23:30 <peter1138> Darkvater: i think it's ntp thinking it can find a better path going the way it's just come from 12:23:41 *** Darkvater [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 12:23:49 <peter1138> oh i see, always leaving 12:24:00 *** Darkvater [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:24:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 12:24:06 <Darkvater> shit 12:24:08 <Darkvater> did you say anything peter? 12:24:16 <hylje> he did 12:24:19 <hylje> =] 12:24:21 <Sacro> yup he did :) 12:24:34 <peter1138> 13:21 <@peter1138> Darkvater: read it properly :P 12:24:34 <peter1138> 13:22 <@peter1138> it doesn't mean "reverse at a waypoint" 12:24:34 <peter1138> 13:22 <@peter1138> it means "if the next order is a waypoint, check if we need to reverse to reach it" 12:24:41 <peter1138> 13:23 <@peter1138> Darkvater: i think it's ntp thinking it can find a better path going the way it's just come from 12:24:53 <peter1138> (definite "maybe" on the last line though) 12:25:21 <Darkvater> hmm well anyways imho nothing should reverse at a waypoint 12:26:28 <peter1138> try making the CheckReverseTrain() calls dependent on the last order type, too 12:26:37 <peter1138> i.e. do it if the last order wasn't a waypoint 12:26:38 <peter1138> hmm 12:26:39 <peter1138> but 12:27:01 <peter1138> oh no, that might work 12:30:53 <roboman> gnight 12:31:00 *** roboman is now known as robobed 12:31:51 <peter1138> heh, we could use stations as waypoints really easily 12:32:03 <peter1138> hmm 12:32:07 <peter1138> actually not that easily 12:32:09 <peter1138> but fairly 12:33:17 <Darkvater> eh? 12:33:29 <peter1138> nvm 12:38:17 <Sacro> how about stations as depots? 12:38:32 <peter1138> major work 12:38:49 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:39:15 <peter1138> for (perhaps) the advantage of not having to send a train to a depot to service it 12:39:22 <peter1138> you might as well play locomotion ;p 12:41:07 <peter1138> Darkvater: that Autoreplace bug post is an almost useful bug report :) 12:41:11 <peter1138> however 12:41:15 <peter1138> how should we solve it 12:41:21 <peter1138> i vote delegating to bjarni 12:43:44 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-182.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 12:47:52 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:51 <Sacro> peter1138: no, i mean a station set as a depot, that can only service trains, doesnt accept or produce any transportable materials 12:52:01 <Sacro> well, maybe it could accept steel, that'd be cool 12:55:28 <peter1138> ... 12:55:38 <peter1138> why would you want a station that doesn't accept anything? 12:55:44 <peter1138> (or produce) 12:56:02 <peter1138> if you want a big depot complex, that shouldn't really involve stations 12:57:46 <Sacro> peter1138: fine then, i'd like a big depot complex 12:58:06 <peter1138> heh 12:58:08 <peter1138> code it? :) 12:58:51 <Sacro> if i did would it be committed? 12:59:10 <peter1138> might be 12:59:16 <Sacro> thats the M question 12:59:43 <peter1138> things that can be done in stages have better chance 13:01:58 <Sacro> yeah, thats true, just trying to think how best to start it 13:02:29 <peter1138> i'd suggest expanding depots 13:02:43 <peter1138> they already have off-map storage, which is easy to add to 13:03:06 <peter1138> (depending on what it needs, of course) 13:03:26 <Sacro> yeah, and have it so a depot can only produce a train as long as itself 13:03:30 <glx> and if possible it should be optionnal (for people who don't want it :) ) 13:03:54 <glx> because I'm sure a lot will not want it 13:05:00 <Sacro> glx: yeah, thats true 13:05:31 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37E48.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:06:01 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:07:48 <peter1138> yeah 13:09:01 *** Hallo [n=me@i251.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 13:11:41 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:12:50 *** HentaiXP [n=Justin@unaffiliated/hentaixp] has joined #openttd 13:15:20 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has joined #openttd 13:16:03 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@erlang.gbar.dtu.dk] has joined #openttd 13:16:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 13:17:17 <Bjarni> anybody here, who knows bison? 13:17:59 <Sacro> Bjarni: isnt it like a yak? 13:18:18 <Bjarni> !slap Sacro 13:18:22 <Bjarni> I'm serious 13:18:30 <KUDr_wrk> bison is like old cow 13:18:32 <Bjarni> and I know that you don't know shit about it 13:18:58 <KUDr_wrk> or big rabbit? 13:19:18 <glx> KUDr_wrk: bison like the GNU tool 13:19:33 <Darkvater> peter1138: which one (autoreplace) ? 13:19:34 <peter1138> yacc 13:19:41 <peter1138> the sh40->tim 13:19:41 <KUDr_wrk> glx: no, i saw one in ZOO 13:19:49 <Bjarni> nice, serious people 13:20:05 <Darkvater> ah peter1138 that's a job for Bjarni 13:20:11 <peter1138> "Replace Vahicles - BUG 0.4.7" 13:20:11 <peter1138> yup 13:20:14 <Bjarni> I'm trying to add the ability to use functions in my homemade compiler (for uni) 13:20:19 <Bjarni> and I can't figure out how :( 13:20:24 <Darkvater> bison is undeniably tied to yacc 13:20:50 <Bjarni> everything OTTD related have to be postponed until after the deadline (at 17:00) 13:20:57 *** TechSalvager [n=Justin@unaffiliated/hentaixp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:21:04 *** Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by Darkvater [yessir!] 13:21:13 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@erlang.gbar.dtu.dk] has joined #openttd 13:21:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 13:21:22 <Darkvater> what are you doing here? 13:21:27 <Bjarni> asking for help 13:21:28 <Darkvater> get to work on the compiler! 13:21:44 <Bjarni> hoping that somebody knew bison better than I do 13:21:48 <Bjarni> How do I make a function? 13:22:01 <Darkvater> what function? 13:22:20 <Darkvater> I used yacc and lex for our sub-pascal compiler but never had such problems 13:22:28 <Bjarni> nevermind. igor2 showed up :D 13:22:36 * Darkvater is curious 13:22:56 * Sacro was curious, but then looked it up and was terrified 13:23:07 <Darkvater> I still don't get your question though 13:23:24 <peter1138> bison/yacc are scary 13:23:33 <peter1138> i never want to see them in any project i work with 13:23:35 <Darkvater> nah, they're fun :) 13:23:43 <Darkvater> we should use it for newgrf 13:24:06 <Sacro> Darkvater: why not java? cross platform :) 13:24:21 <Darkvater> what does java have to do with bison? 13:24:50 <Sacro> errm, drinking coffee whilst eating one/ 13:25:12 <peter1138> hmm 13:25:16 <peter1138> back hurts :/ 13:26:50 <Darkvater> :( 13:28:42 <peter1138> i still want exceptions in C :P 13:28:55 <Darkvater> sweeeet 13:29:01 <Darkvater> Nvidia 1.0-8762 is out *D 13:29:14 <peter1138> 1.0? hrmm 13:29:34 <Darkvater> hmm not too many changes :S 13:29:48 * Darkvater is still waiting for that bridge-hackfix fix from peter1138 13:30:05 <peter1138> yeah 13:30:12 <peter1138> i'm looking at this grf code 13:30:23 <peter1138> the unsupported variables one 13:30:37 * Darkvater is unfamiliar witht he problem 13:31:29 <Darkvater> AND xorg 7.1 is out 13:31:32 <Darkvater> good day today 13:31:53 <Sacro> oooh, might have to see about putting those on 13:33:00 <peter1138> does it support aiglx yet? 13:33:30 <Darkvater> not the nvidia driver, it will only do it in 9xxx series 13:33:53 <Sacro> aiglx? 13:34:53 <Darkvater> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX 13:36:58 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 13:37:14 <Belugas> wtf??? 13:37:17 <Belugas> hheh 13:37:37 <Belugas> "New program installed" 13:37:51 <Belugas> Ho? where ? in "Games" 13:37:52 <peter1138> ow 13:37:55 <Belugas> Openttd! 13:37:57 * peter1138 tries not to move 13:38:20 <Darkvater> oook, cool down Belugas :) 13:38:31 <Belugas> surprised I am 13:41:41 <Darkvater> so happened what has ? 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Rebooted the PC even didn't I. 14:01:57 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 14:02:03 <Belugas> But amused and puzzled I am :) 14:04:24 <hylje> resembles yoda your talking does 14:07:10 <Belugas> Always wondered like that why was talking Yoda I 14:07:15 <Belugas> muwhahaha 14:09:51 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 14:09:55 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 14:10:01 * Darkvater is going to install xgl/compiz 14:10:25 <peter1138> but it's pants 14:10:50 <Darkvater> but I want pants 14:12:07 * Belugas imagines Darkvater running around searching his pants 14:12:12 <Belugas> yeurk 14:13:06 <hylje> Darkvater: im about to get on the way to xgl/compiz 14:13:18 <hylje> but i got to upgrade xorg first 14:13:19 <hylje> :x 14:15:06 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:16:25 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has joined #openttd 14:17:18 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [] 14:18:51 *** Jango [n=Jango@mettab.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:21:07 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:21:22 <Belugas> There were some files been converted from MSV6 to 2005 14:22:11 <Belugas> got to check with KUDr's work on them 14:25:52 <Celestar> so people ... 14:26:02 <Celestar> any feedback concerning branch/bridge? 14:26:12 <Darkvater> sweeet, compiz :D 14:27:36 <Sacro> Darkvater: yeah i know, i was fiddling with it last night 14:27:45 <Darkvater> it is sloooooow though 14:27:46 <Darkvater> he 14:27:51 <Darkvater> don't try to run mplayer :OP 14:27:59 <Sacro> lol, what DE? 14:28:00 <Darkvater> doesn't like twinview either 14:29:30 <Sacro> i can understand that 14:29:38 <Sacro> i like CTRL-ALT-left/right :) 14:29:52 <peter1138> yeah, xv doesn't work 14:30:14 <Darkvater> yeah that's awesome :D 14:31:01 <Darkvater> hmm I should probably use -vo gl for mplayer 14:31:34 <Sacro> that sounds more likely, you using Xorg 7.1? 14:31:42 <Darkvater> 7.0 14:31:59 <peter1138> that didn't work for me either 14:32:12 <hylje> :X 14:32:35 <Darkvater> gl or gl2 works like a charm 14:33:35 <Sacro> i got it going in GNOME last night, but everytime i touch the switcher, something crashes and i loose my window manager, plus i can only ctrl-alt-bksp out of X 14:36:36 <Darkvater> well this was fun...not much use though and slow 14:36:39 <Darkvater> but it was fun :) 14:36:46 <Darkvater> gotta show this to my dad when he gets home 14:37:09 <Sacro> hehe, my brother was amused 14:37:18 <Sacro> try and resize a maximised window :) 14:38:09 <Darkvater> :) 14:40:06 <Darkvater> too bad the zoom sucks 14:40:24 <Darkvater> it just zooms in, nothing antialiasing etc 14:41:08 <Darkvater> hmm what is the key for window organizing? 14:41:46 * ledow has their first convert in the shape of his elder brother who played his first game of OpenTTD today after playing TTD for years. Loves the game, AI sucks (nothing new), thinks the Wiki is fantastic for learning how to use the new stuff. 14:41:49 <Celestar> Darkvater: whats going on? 14:41:50 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 14:41:56 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 14:41:58 <Darkvater> fun with xgl/compiz 14:42:09 <Celestar> ah 14:42:40 <Sacro> Darkvater: F12 14:42:49 <Darkvater> no that's beagle 14:43:07 <Darkvater> the readme says F11 here but that does nothing 14:43:27 <Sacro> Darkvater: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xgl has a list 14:44:59 <Darkvater> hmm I think I needa kill beagle then 14:45:47 <peter1138> i didn't get zoom working 14:45:48 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@CPE-60-227-113-138.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:46:15 <Darkvater> windowskey + scroll 14:46:42 <peter1138> didn't work for me 14:46:43 <peter1138> mind 14:46:49 <peter1138> shift-backspace liked to kill it 14:46:55 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@CPE-60-227-113-138.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:48:01 <Sacro> brb 14:48:05 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 14:50:59 <Darkvater> This increases accessibility for the Linux desktop, providing a powerful tool to visually impaired users. Zoom keeps text and images very smooth when magnified. 14:51:05 <Darkvater> yeah smooth my ass 14:55:20 <peter1138> would be nice if it was rerendered 14:55:25 <peter1138> rather than just a scaled bitmap 14:56:04 <Darkvater> yeah 14:56:43 <peter1138> was it just a fuck, just a fuck, just another fuck i say 14:57:09 <TheMask96> rendered images for ottd... would be cool, but very cpu consuming I think... 14:57:28 <peter1138> not openttd :p 14:58:39 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:01:15 <Jango> oh, Celestar, sorry i haven't got that savegame to you yet 15:01:17 <Jango> been busy :S 15:01:40 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has joined #openttd 15:02:13 *** Jango [n=Jango@mettab.demon.co.uk] has quit ["Using KVIrc 3.0.1 'System Virtue'"] 15:06:41 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2441.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 15:06:52 <Darkvater> ugh I lost my window decorations :O 15:09:10 <Sacro> Darkvater: GNOME? switcher? 15:09:12 <Darkvater> gaaah 15:09:15 <Darkvater> no in KDE 15:09:23 <Darkvater> can't type anything into any window :O 15:09:25 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 15:09:44 <Sacro> ooh, thast nasty 15:13:10 *** valhallasw-ne is now known as valhallasw 15:15:39 <Darkvater> phew window decorations are back 15:15:55 <Darkvater> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2006-05-23 17:11 X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/Xgl 15:15:59 <Darkvater> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2006-05-23 17:13 X -> /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg 15:16:54 <Bjarni> be back in an hour or so 15:16:56 <Bjarni> going home 15:16:59 <Bjarni> I'm done :D 15:17:15 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@erlang.gbar.dtu.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:17:21 <Darkvater> 17:15 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/168 <= I think peter should fix this for 0.4.8 15:17:24 <Darkvater> 17:16 <Celestar> please poke peter into that :) 15:17:25 <Darkvater> ^^ 15:17:28 <Darkvater> there 15:21:16 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 15:23:59 <peter1138> what? 15:24:06 <Darkvater> yes 15:24:17 <peter1138> oh 15:24:23 <peter1138> why should i fix a dodgy grf? 15:24:45 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D8C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:03 <Darkvater> peter1138: Celestar recommended that the code should not assert, eg be a bit more robust 15:25:22 <peter1138> well 15:25:30 <peter1138> i can make the blitter ignore it 15:25:35 <Darkvater> I suggested perhaps, but perhaps not now as asserts are stripped anyways from releases so as long as ottd doesn't crash it's ok 15:27:04 <ledow> Darkvater: Would that include the asserts in http://bugs.openttd.org/task/176 ? 15:29:28 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:07 <[Shaman]> peter1138: If I make a scenario in the mini_IN, would it load (at all) in 0.4.7 (or any other 'standard' releases) 15:41:39 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has quit [Client Quit] 15:42:51 *** JVassie [n=james_va@relocate.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:44:22 *** Buggernaut [i=BenG@user-3882.l3.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:44:38 <JVassie> howdy Buggernaut 15:45:03 <Buggernaut> Howdy 15:45:22 <JVassie> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25291 15:45:30 <JVassie> would anyone like to join the project? 15:45:59 <[Shaman]> That's a brit-thing right? 15:46:11 <[Shaman]> I'll poke a brit then, hang on :P 15:49:17 <Buggernaut> Dont have to be just brits, think of all the foreign people that have used the tube 15:49:18 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has joined #openttd 15:49:42 <peter1138> [Shaman]: no 15:50:26 <JVassie> come on 15:50:36 <JVassie> theres gotta be some people in here who wanna join ;) 15:50:49 <[Shaman]> peter1138: Same reason as savedgames I presume? 15:51:23 <Buggernaut> What reason is that? 15:51:51 <peter1138> [Shaman]: it *is* a saved game 15:51:58 <[Shaman]> ah 15:51:59 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:52:00 <[Shaman]> explains 15:52:01 <[Shaman]> cheers 15:52:52 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:53:07 <Buggernaut> *sighs* 15:54:51 <Darkvater> ledow: yes 15:56:17 <Darkvater> JVassie: "a map of 265x528 in temperate climate" < mapsize not supported 15:56:42 <[Shaman]> I think he meant 256*512 :P 15:56:46 <Buggernaut> Yep, typo on my behalf 15:57:03 <Darkvater> and ttdpatch only has 256x256 15:57:13 <[Shaman]> true 15:57:25 <Buggernaut> Its intended to be built in Openttd though 15:57:26 <[Shaman]> hence, ottd > ttdp (imo) 15:57:43 <[Shaman]> I -so- want to play a 256*2048 map once :p 15:58:01 <Prof_Frink> nah 15:58:05 <peter1138> feh 15:58:11 <peter1138> 64x2048 is where it's at 15:58:19 <Prof_Frink> 64x2048 15:58:22 <Darkvater> I am playing the africa scenario which is 1024x1024 but it is really big though. You don't have a sense of an interconnected network 15:58:23 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-157-219.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 15:58:42 <peter1138> i like smaller maps :) 15:58:47 <peter1138> 128x256 or something 15:58:51 <[Shaman]> Darkvater: I only play on 10 or 11 size :P 16:02:46 <webfreakz> JVassie: are your there? 16:02:54 <Buggernaut> He is 16:03:17 <webfreakz> ? 16:03:43 <JVassie> i am 16:03:57 <webfreakz> Jvassie: i saw your .doc and i want to make a note, it's 256x528 and NOT 265x528 16:04:11 <JVassie> lol 16:04:14 <JVassie> 512 you mean? 16:04:23 <JVassie> and btw, its Buggernaut's .doc 16:04:29 <JVassie> he posted it 16:04:32 <JVassie> but were both working on it 16:04:42 <Buggernaut> Darn, and i thought we had a recruit, not another comment on my typo 16:05:37 <Sacro> webfreakz: 512 :) 16:06:03 <hylje> add support for really fucking small maps ? 16:06:12 <hylje> like 1x1 16:06:27 <Buggernaut> ? 16:07:01 <Sacro> hylje: and the point would be? 16:07:05 <Darkvater> peter1138: http://www.linuxedge.org/images/XGL_xdc2006/3.png?PHPSESSID=753f926cb95d9c0ea703efe336b6a884 < here the zoomed in windows look great 16:07:19 <Darkvater> strange that all we got is blown-up pixmaps 16:11:29 <hylje> Sacro: well, really fucking small maps. 16:15:38 <Sacro> lol 16:15:44 <Buggernaut> Can i assume then, that nobody wants to join the project???? 16:16:11 <Sacro> what project? 16:16:48 <peter1138> Buggernaut: i wouldn't assume anything after a mere 30 minutes of publicity 16:16:49 <[Shaman]> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25291 16:16:58 <[Shaman]> @Sacro 16:17:19 <Buggernaut> Well, i would after 30 minutes of speaking to actual people 16:17:28 <Buggernaut> surely its wouldnt take 30 minutes to decide 16:17:31 <peter1138> you're speaking to programmers 16:17:32 <Sacro> make me feel like an op, or an instance variable 16:18:00 <peter1138> and people who are at work 16:18:10 <[Shaman]> static string Sacro = "http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25291"; 16:18:15 <[Shaman]> satisfied? 16:18:17 <Buggernaut> all of you are programmers? 16:18:25 <Sacro> [Shaman]: i was talking ruby :) 16:18:27 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3EFF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:18:29 <Tron> orudge: ? 16:18:35 <[Shaman]> Sacro: Don't do ruby, soz. 16:18:43 <[Shaman]> Buggernaut: Most people here are. 16:18:48 <Tron> or anybody else with admin rights in the forums 16:18:52 <Tron> Darkvater? 16:19:11 <Buggernaut> peter1138 is staff, ent he. 16:19:29 <Sacro> peter1138: he's some kind of dev isnt he? 16:19:46 <peter1138> Tron: i've some 16:20:00 <peter1138> Tron: what's up? 16:20:07 <Tron> some thread 16:21:41 <Sacro> [Shaman]: reading now 16:21:50 <peter1138> Buggernaut: you might get a better response with a text file 16:22:24 <Buggernaut> how come? 16:22:58 <peter1138> because not everyone can read word docs 16:23:03 <argonel> or even better, a flat posting in the forum 16:23:16 <peter1138> and not everyone who can will, because they can contain viruses 16:23:27 <orudge> Tron: ? 16:23:32 <Tron> nvm 16:23:32 <Buggernaut> are, okay 16:23:53 <Sacro> Buggernaut: want a nice HTML page? 16:24:48 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3EFF5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 16:24:56 <Buggernaut> sure, thanks. Sounds nice 16:25:56 <Sacro> hang on then, ill write one up 16:27:40 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8F0B18.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 16:28:24 <Darkvater> what was it with tron? 16:28:36 <Sacro> Darkvater: needed a forum admin 16:28:43 <hylje> yay, upgrade to modular xorg seems to work flawlessly 16:29:01 <hylje> gnome just crashed when i attempted to restart 16:29:14 <Darkvater> you should use kde, didn't crash even once 16:29:20 <Sacro> hylje: what distro you in? 16:29:33 <Sacro> Darkvater: ive crashed KDE a few times, never GNOME, except when mucking with XGL 16:31:36 <hylje> actually it didnt work that flawlessly, xorg appears to fail to load some modules 16:31:50 <hylje> but gentoo is not gentoo without problems ! 16:32:59 <Sacro> lol 16:33:34 <JVassie> thnx Sacro 16:34:10 <Sacro> JVassie: pour qui? 16:36:13 <JVassie> [17:23] <Sacro> Buggernaut: want a nice HTML page? 16:36:15 <JVassie> :) 16:36:57 <Sacro> JVassie: ahh right :) well its a lot easier than opening it in OOo 16:40:50 <JVassie> yeah 16:40:54 <JVassie> thnx very much 16:41:36 <Buggernaut> tt-forums down again? 16:44:16 <JVassie> duno 16:44:52 <JVassie> not for me 16:46:27 <glx> <Sacro> JVassie: pour qui? <- pour quoi? :) 16:46:38 <webfreakz> Meush? 16:48:46 <Sacro> glx: i have limited french 16:48:58 <peter1138> i have limited english 16:49:20 <glx> I know but I help you to increase your knowledge :) 16:49:27 <Darkvater> I have limited sprites 16:49:54 <Belugas> I have limited wallet 16:50:06 <glx> I have a limited CPU 16:50:17 <Sacro> glx: thanks :) i thought it was only 3 letters, but qui and quo didnt seem right 16:51:40 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 16:54:05 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 17:00:42 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has joined #openttd 17:03:54 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 17:06:31 <blathijs> 08:51 < Celestar> blathijs: you there? <-- Look at the time, of course I wasn't there! 17:07:05 <blathijs> though I was already underway by train by that time, but I try not be be awake around nine ;-) 17:07:44 <blathijs> Celestar: But I have no time right now, try to poke me again tomorrow morning 17:07:58 <blathijs> Celestar: Or just pose your question/problem and I'll see 17:07:59 <Darkvater> Celestar is away 17:08:48 <blathijs> Darkvater: Then I'll hit his awaylog ;-) 17:13:50 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:14:25 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:14:58 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 17:17:37 <peter1138> hmmz 17:18:28 <peter1138> bah 17:18:40 * peter1138 wonders how to handle this 17:22:14 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@125.23.8.19] has quit ["Look ma, no script!"] 17:24:39 *** Angst [n=Angst@p5494706F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:20 *** Buggernaut [i=BenG@user-3882.l3.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 17:29:22 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53589070.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:29:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:29:25 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit ["/quit"] 17:29:53 <Bjarni> longest trip home ever 17:30:05 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:42 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 17:33:58 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:34:18 <JVassie> cya later all 17:34:34 *** JVassie [n=james_va@relocate.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [] 17:35:17 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-3365.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:36:11 <Bjarni> oh, poor timing. I just figured out that I would say something to JVassie :( 17:36:21 <Bjarni> well, it's his loss :p 17:41:12 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-3365.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:43:40 <Sacro> hmm, i wanted to speak to JVassie or Buggernaut 17:44:27 <Born_Acorn> I'm the Buggernaut, bitch! 17:44:40 <hylje> no you're Born_Acorn 17:45:13 <Born_Acorn> No, no no. Its a video. 17:45:40 <Born_Acorn> Which has attracted some moderate internet fame. 17:45:46 <MiHaMiX> let's commit 17:45:56 <CIA-3> miham * r4956 /trunk/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) 17:45:56 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-23 19:45:23 17:45:56 <CIA-3> catalan - 29 fixed, 9 changed by jecaro (38) 17:45:56 <CIA-3> czech - 1 fixed by Hadez (1) 17:45:56 <CIA-3> german - 1 fixed by Neonox (1) 17:45:57 <CIA-3> hungarian - 1 fixed by miham (1) 17:45:59 <CIA-3> italian - 1 fixed by sidew (1) 17:46:17 <MiHaMiX> and several others... 17:46:51 <MiHaMiX> norwegian - 2 fixed by brygge_2 (2) 17:46:51 <MiHaMiX> portuguese - 1 fixed by izhirahider (1) 17:46:51 <MiHaMiX> romanian - 16 fixed by kneekoo (16) 17:47:11 <MiHaMiX> let's go home 17:47:21 <Bjarni> sorry, I didn't have time to translate 17:47:28 <Bjarni> I had uni stuff to do 17:48:37 *** ShadowJK [n=jk@208.53.150.226] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:53:32 *** MeusH[bbl] [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 17:53:53 <MeusH[bbl]> hey 17:53:55 *** MeusH[bbl] is now known as MeusH 17:53:57 <MeusH> I'm back 17:54:15 <peter1138> oh no! 17:55:37 <Bjarni> they let you out already? 17:55:39 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:55:49 <MeusH> yes 17:56:02 <MeusH> freedom, eh? 17:56:19 <Bjarni> in the old days, you would have been hung, now you just get a few days in jail o_O 17:56:26 <Bjarni> what have the world become? 17:56:27 <Bjarni> :( 17:57:12 <hylje> forgiving 17:57:43 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-192-67.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 17:57:49 <Bjarni> bbl 17:59:46 <Kalpa> What did he do to get few days of jail anyway? :< 18:00:42 <Bjarni> worst crime of them all 18:00:46 <Bjarni> being Polish 18:00:48 * Bjarni hides 18:00:52 <Bjarni> bbl 4 real 18:01:01 <izhirahider> I prefer to translate slow than bad 18:01:05 <Prof_Frink> Nah, if you're polish,. people rub you on their shoes 18:10:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Kaum gestohlen schon in Polen?" ;) 18:11:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> (german proverb... usually referring to cars ;)) 18:11:39 *** ShadowJK [n=jk@208.53.150.226] has joined #openttd 18:13:16 <Born_Acorn> wow. 18:13:16 <Born_Acorn> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=446439#446439 18:14:49 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 18:15:43 <hylje> :x 18:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> some trains should be prevented from driving backwards... 18:24:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> or if a train does not have a steering wagon at the other end, it enters a special "shunting mode", which is limited to like 40km/h 18:25:44 <Bjarni> back 18:25:55 <Prof_Frink> top 18:26:17 <Bjarni> shunting backwards is limited to 40, 25 or 5 km/h, depending on location and situation 18:26:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> bikini 18:26:21 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4957 /branch/yapf/ (15 files in 2 dirs): [YAPF] Codechange: Removed non-standard Save/Load of YAPF settings introduced in r4948. 18:26:27 <Bjarni> yes, sometimes the limit is 5 km/h 18:26:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... we can't have too many options ;) 18:26:59 <Bjarni> 5 km/h in OTTD is near nothing 18:27:05 <Bjarni> so I would go for 40 km/h 18:27:21 <Bjarni> even though that is actually rather fast in real life 18:27:27 <Prof_Frink> what's that in real money? 25mph? 18:27:36 <XeryusTC> http://www.qdb.us/45632 <- that one is really good :D 18:27:36 <Bjarni> lol 18:27:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> /1.6 Prof_Frink 18:28:03 <Prof_Frink> 40/1.6 = 25 ;) 18:28:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> "if you give a man a fish, he has food for a day, if you show him how to fish, he has food for his life" 18:28:54 <Prof_Frink> Nonono 18:29:07 <Prof_Frink> "if you give a man a fish, he has food for a day, if you show him how to fish, you lose your monopoly on fish" 18:29:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> besides of that... i cannot calculate anyway ;) 18:30:17 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: like 40/1.6 = 237? 18:30:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> showing someone how to fish does not necessarily require me to be able to fish myself 18:30:33 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 18:30:54 <Bjarni> wow, Born_Acorn found a nice link 18:30:59 <Bjarni> MB did it again 18:31:04 *** Neonox [n=Neonox@ip-80-226-157-219.vodafone-net.de] has quit ["muss wech"] 18:31:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> actually, 40/1.6 is not that difficult, because you can derive it from powers of 2 18:31:33 <Prof_Frink> 40 kph -> mph is simple 18:31:38 <Prof_Frink> 40 is 8 x 5 18:31:43 <Prof_Frink> 5 x 5 = 25 18:32:00 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, and just after you disproved such things. :p 18:32:24 <Bjarni> I didn't disproofed it. I said that it's not simple to do 18:32:37 <Born_Acorn> Well yes, of course.. 18:32:41 <Born_Acorn> -. 18:32:42 <Bjarni> it's not impossible 18:32:53 <Bjarni> also, something is only impossible until somebody does it 18:33:05 <Born_Acorn> What about eating themselves. 18:33:13 <Born_Acorn> Every bit. 18:33:21 <Born_Acorn> with no tools or cutlery. 18:33:31 <Bjarni> hmm 18:33:48 <Bjarni> ever heard of a temporal paradox and time shifting? 18:34:14 <Born_Acorn> But naturally occuring time travel may be impossible! 18:34:20 *** ShadowJK [n=jk@208.53.150.226] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:34:28 <Born_Acorn> and the Dalorean car company went bust. 18:35:32 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, ans police boxen are hard to find these days 18:36:32 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:19:32 *** SpComb [i=terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 20:23:24 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["I'm gone, bye bye :)"] 20:25:15 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:34:08 *** webfreakz [n=Ronald@195.73.147.226] has left #openttd [] 20:34:48 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:35:02 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:45:32 *** dfox [n=dfox@213.220.254.86] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:46:55 *** |Jurgen| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:48:32 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 20:53:21 *** Andrew67 [i=andrew67@206.248.80.224] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:59:08 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r4965 /trunk/newgrf.c: - NewGRF: add support for action 0x06 (modify sprite data) for pseudo sprites 20:59:28 <KUDr> hmm: "ini: trailing characters at end of setting 'lan_internet'" 20:59:44 <KUDr> what it does mean? 21:00:01 <peter1138> i means someone changed the lan_internet setting from bool -> int 21:00:05 <peter1138> i don't know who that was.... 21:00:31 <KUDr> hmm 21:00:41 <KUDr> it was not there 21:02:21 <KUDr> aha! false -> 0 21:02:27 <KUDr> understand 21:02:39 <Sacro> i thought true -> 0? 21:02:40 <KUDr> i tested it without .cfg before... 21:02:56 <KUDr> heh 21:03:23 <Bjarni> hey, I got 1337 posts 21:04:36 <Sacro> Bjarni: nice one :) 21:04:39 <Eddi|zuHause> y00 4r3 s00 üb3r1337, 8j4rn1 21:04:57 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... 21:04:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i suck at this ;) 21:05:24 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: n00b :P 21:05:39 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: I have no idea what you just said 21:06:03 <Eddi|zuHause> fine ;) 21:06:08 <Sacro> UTF-8 l33t :D 21:06:23 *** ShadowJK [n=jk@208.53.150.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:06:55 <Bjarni> btw I once said I would ban the next guy to use l33t in here and then everybody stopped, so Eddi|zuHause ended up being the next one 21:07:14 <Eddi|zuHause> err... 21:07:15 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:07:26 <Belugas_Gone> bye boys and girls 21:07:31 <Bjarni> bye Belugas_Gone 21:07:51 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: now is your time to make up for it 21:07:53 <Belugas_Gone> Sweet dreams Bjarni :) 21:08:00 <Bjarni> what can you offer for not being banned? 21:08:18 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... 21:08:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i could... 21:08:29 <Bjarni> Belugas_Gone: well, one thing is for sure: I will sleep rather nicely tonight :D 21:08:30 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: hide? 21:08:32 <Eddi|zuHause> RUN 21:08:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7658A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:08:39 <Bjarni> ... 21:08:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7658A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:50 <Sacro> well, that woks 21:08:53 <Eddi|zuHause> ;) 21:08:54 <Sacro> *works 21:09:15 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: I meant for OTTD 21:10:04 <Bjarni> hmm 21:10:09 <Eddi|zuHause> well... i found at least a dozen bugs ;) 21:10:48 <Bjarni> when you can remember that you once wrote a patch, committed it, but have forgotten how it works internally and in what c file it is in, is that a sign of aging? 21:11:01 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-2441.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 21:11:02 <CIA-3> KUDr * r4966 /branch/yapf/ (102 files in 7 dirs): Sync with trunk (4831:4965) 21:11:14 <MeusH> cya 21:11:17 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 21:12:55 <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: it is not worse than forgetting where you put the remote control 20 times a day 21:13:07 <Bjarni> oh, I do that as well 21:13:09 <Bjarni> :p 21:13:29 <Bjarni> ok, maybe not 20, but sometimes it happens more than once 21:13:45 <Bjarni> specially on busy days with a lot of phone calls and stuff like that 21:13:48 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 21:13:53 <Eddi|zuHause> then you have quite a problem, i fear ;) 21:14:07 <Bjarni> what problem? 21:14:12 <Bjarni> I forgot :/ 21:14:24 <Eddi|zuHause> :p 21:15:06 <Eddi|zuHause> What was Dr. Alzheimers first name? ;) 21:15:23 <Bjarni> hmmm 21:15:30 <Bjarni> somehow that slipped my mind 21:15:38 <Eddi|zuHause> see... that's how it starts ;) 21:15:48 <Bjarni> I didn't forget it 21:15:53 <Bjarni> I just can't remember it right now 21:17:04 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:17:36 <Bjarni> btw now I know where and how I did that patch 21:17:45 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i hate german TV... 21:17:50 <Bjarni> it's downright simple, so I didn't bother to remember it 21:18:02 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i hate german TV... <--- me too 21:18:16 <Bjarni> they speak some strange ununderstandable language :p 21:18:18 <Eddi|zuHause> they showed exactly 1 season of the sopranos... 21:18:21 * Bjarni hides 21:18:33 <Hallo> ^^ 21:18:54 <Eddi|zuHause> which means i have to catch up almost 5 seasons now... 21:19:19 <Bjarni> oh, Danish TV showed 'Allo 'Allo... all seasons except the last one and they planned it like that from the very beginning 21:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause> lol ;) 21:19:51 <Eddi|zuHause> (not that i would know what kind of show that is) 21:19:53 <Sacro> hehe, Allo Allo is brilliant 21:20:05 <Bjarni> yeah 21:20:19 <Sacro> though probably quite racist to others 21:21:28 <Bjarni> like the British agent craptree, who says the strangest things... like people in Britain can't speak :p 21:21:43 <Bjarni> I think he was named craptree or crabtree or something like that 21:21:53 <Eddi|zuHause> "In Deutschland ist die Serie leider noch nicht gelaufen. 21:21:54 <Eddi|zuHause> " 21:22:01 <Sacro> crabtree 21:22:03 <Eddi|zuHause> you see... another thing ;) 21:22:22 <Bjarni> it would have been even funnier if it were craptree :p 21:22:26 <Sacro> in germany, there is a hmmm... 21:22:38 <Sacro> good moaning :) 21:23:20 <Eddi|zuHause> ? 21:23:22 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:52 <Bjarni> actually I don't think any German TV station will ever send it. The German officers tries to hide valuables from Hitler to gain personal wealth after the war 21:24:02 <Bjarni> [23:22] <Sacro> good moaning :) 21:24:02 <Bjarni> [23:23] <Eddi|zuHause> ? 21:24:15 <Bjarni> clearly Eddi|zuHause is missing out on all the fun here :p 21:25:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i get that feeling also ;) 21:25:14 <Bjarni> that show had one bad thing though: you have to be good at English to get a lot of the jokes as they aren't translateable 21:26:04 <Bjarni> if you thought that translating OTTD was hard, wait until you get to translate 'Allo 'Allo without losing the points in all the jokes 21:26:58 <Sacro> I dont think you could 21:27:32 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a problem with a lot of shows... 21:27:38 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: unless you have a really good sense of humour, you'd probably see it as racist 21:28:01 * Eddi|zuHause searchifies 21:28:03 <Bjarni> specially this one because more than half of the jokes are based on word playing (more than one meaning and so on) 21:28:27 <Sacro> im looking for somewhere to get it, ive only found it in polish :( 21:28:37 <Bjarni> lol 21:29:02 <Sacro> Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once 21:29:40 <Eddi|zuHause> on an average tv show, at least 25% of the jokes are not translated at all, and another 25% do not get translated properly 21:29:56 <Bjarni> this reminds me. I read that they wanted to make Faulty towers in German with German actors. They didn't really know how to make the episode "The Germans" though since it was all about Basil blaming some German tourists for starting WW2 :D 21:30:28 <Sacro> hehe 21:30:28 <Bjarni> somehow that joke is not as good when the remake takes place in Germany 21:30:42 <Sacro> "Yes you did! You invaded Poland" 21:31:02 <Sacro> Bjarni: what people dont actaully realise, thats only about 2 minutes of the episode 21:31:31 <Bjarni> John Clese got the idea when they were at a hotel like that with a crazy manager 21:32:12 <Bjarni> even from the beginning, it made problems. He thought the Monty Python guys had a bomb in their suitcase and threw it as far away as he could 21:32:26 <Sacro> yeah, and there are people who thought it was a documentory 21:32:37 <Bjarni> he did some other obscene stuff as well, but I forgot the rest 21:33:28 <Bjarni> I bet the Monty Python guys still remember though :D 21:34:10 <Sacro> Monty Python is fantastic 21:35:19 *** Leissi [n=NNSCRIPT@pc6.htk.fi] has quit ["Piittausindeksi 0."] 21:44:49 *** Angst [n=Angst@p5494706F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 21:44:50 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:47:20 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D8C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 21:49:20 <CIA-3> bjarni * r4967 /trunk/vehicle.c: 21:49:20 <CIA-3> -Fix: [clone vehicles] a cloned train engine heads the same way as the original (pointed out by bobingabout) 21:49:20 <CIA-3> [autoreplace] the same applies to autoreplaced trains if the engine is a single unit (not dualheaded or articulated) 21:49:30 *** dfox [n=dfox@213.220.254.86] has joined #openttd 21:51:20 <Sacro> Bjarni: must you give bobingabout credit :( 21:51:22 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D8C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:51:55 <Bjarni> for once, he actually did something good 21:52:05 <Bjarni> the question is if/when it will happen again 21:52:45 <Bjarni> also he just pointed it out, he didn't actually do anything about it except talking about it 21:52:54 <Sacro> Bjarni: ive known him 6 years, it doesnt happen often 21:53:09 <Bjarni> you are related? 21:53:24 <Bjarni> hmm 21:53:26 <Bjarni> maybe not 21:53:31 <Bjarni> it's only 6 years 21:53:34 <Sacro> no, i went to college with him 21:53:40 <Bjarni> or maybe he IS 6 years 21:53:42 <Bjarni> old 21:53:52 <Sacro> nope he is 22 21:53:53 <Bjarni> o_O 21:54:00 <Bjarni> you went to college??? 21:54:06 <XeryusTC> lol 21:54:09 <Bjarni> bobingabout went to college??? 21:54:21 <Sacro> i failed he passed 21:54:33 <Bjarni> O_o 21:54:41 <Bjarni> bobingabout passed??? 21:54:50 <Bjarni> what a mean bastard 21:54:50 <Sacro> yup 21:54:54 <Bjarni> no wonder you hate him 21:54:55 <Bjarni> :p 21:55:17 <Sacro> he drives me mad 21:55:58 <Bjarni> well, so far he did a great job at that 21:56:06 <Sacro> true 21:56:57 <Bjarni> what did he do, that is so horrible? 21:57:01 <Bjarni> besides passing 21:58:14 <Bjarni> thought so 21:58:20 <Sacro> he's just a pain 21:59:38 <Bjarni> remember what master Yoda said 22:00:01 <Bjarni> anger leads to pain, pain leads to suffering 22:00:11 <Bjarni> no, that's not it 22:00:28 <Bjarni> anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to pain, pain leads to suffering 22:00:32 <Bjarni> that's it 22:00:40 <XeryusTC> i think that it was something like: force may the you with 22:00:47 <Bjarni> that too 22:00:55 <Sacro> well im full of anger and hate, and i am suffering 22:01:11 <Bjarni> and you talked about pain regarding bobingabout 22:01:17 <XeryusTC> Sacro: you could do 3 things, 1. forget it 2. kill him 3. commit suicide 22:01:21 <Bjarni> Yoda was right 22:01:24 <XeryusTC> i would advice that you do the first 1 22:01:36 <Bjarni> XeryusTC: do not say such a thing 22:01:46 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: ok 22:01:48 <Bjarni> Sacro might decide on 3 22:01:57 <Bjarni> he is not like us 22:02:11 <XeryusTC> no he wont, i would kick his ass then 22:02:33 *** Darkvater [n=plop@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["leaving"] 22:02:51 * Sacro does like 3 22:02:56 <Bjarni> see 22:03:01 * XeryusTC kicks Sacro's ass 22:04:22 <XeryusTC> Sacro: you're not a goth or emo, are you? 22:06:27 <Bjarni> wtf is emo? 22:06:34 <Bjarni> not to mention goth 22:07:43 <XeryusTC> emo is something that we call breezahs around here 22:07:52 <XeryusTC> and goth is just short for gothic 22:08:07 <Bjarni> what is breezahs and gothic? 22:08:49 <XeryusTC> a breezah is something that you dont want to know 22:08:54 <XeryusTC> and you know what gothic is 22:09:12 <Bjarni> hmm 22:09:22 <Bjarni> not really, but maybe I don't want to know 22:10:50 <XeryusTC> anyways 22:10:53 <XeryusTC> im off to bed 22:11:05 <XeryusTC> cya guys later 22:11:15 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|agoodnigh 22:11:22 <Sacro> back 22:11:23 <Xeryus|agoodnigh> stupid server 22:11:26 *** Xeryus|agoodnigh is now known as Xeryus|sleep 22:11:36 <Sacro> Xeryus|sleep: im not goth or emo 22:11:55 <Xeryus|sleep> good 22:11:58 <Xeryus|sleep> but im off now 22:12:23 <Sacro> Xeryus|sleep: night 22:13:08 <Bjarni> Sacro: then what are you? 22:13:26 <Bjarni> I mean, if you are not goth, emo or vampire, then what's left for your type? 22:13:28 <Sacro> Bjarni: im just a geek with depression 22:13:44 <Bjarni> hmm 22:13:55 <Bjarni> most of us left the depression in the 30s 22:14:13 <Sacro> well im back in it 22:14:32 <Bjarni> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=446439#446439 <-- I guess I better do that in OTTD as well 22:15:44 <Sacro> Bjarni: DO THAT NOW :D 22:15:58 *** DjViper- [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 22:16:12 <Xeryus|sleep> shit, i cant leave this place :( 22:16:35 <Sacro> Xeryus|sleep: its addicting 22:16:37 <Bjarni> <Sacro> Bjarni: DO THAT NOW :D <-- why should I take orders from a depressed geek? 22:17:01 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:17:05 <Bjarni> Sacro: http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s991088/BR01_reversed.png <-- you saw that I made this one a long time ago, right? 22:17:53 *** DjViper- is now known as DjViper 22:18:26 <Sacro> Bjarni: i know where you live :) 22:18:44 <Sacro> Bjarni: yeah i saw that pic 22:19:00 <Bjarni> you know where I live? 22:19:01 <Xeryus|sleep> im really off now 22:19:04 <Xeryus|sleep> cya guys 22:19:14 <Bjarni> Xeryus|sleep: why should we trust you this time? 22:19:18 <Bjarni> :p 22:19:31 <Xeryus|sleep> because im telling the thruth 22:19:45 <Xeryus|sleep> shit 22:19:49 <Sacro> if we see you again in 2 minutes we will know your lying 22:19:51 <Xeryus|sleep> that proves Bjarni's point 22:19:57 <Xeryus|sleep> im off 22:20:31 <Bjarni> he will be back 22:20:47 <Sacro> yep 22:23:06 *** ector-- [n=meloditr@ygun.brg.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:23:06 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:23:13 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 22:24:02 <Sacro> grr im confused 22:26:18 <Bjarni> I fail to see the news value in that line 22:26:31 <Bjarni> which means it's a waste of bandwidth :p 22:26:48 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:28:03 <Sacro> hmm 22:28:16 <Sacro> [23:19:51] <Bjarni> :p <- and that was useful? 22:30:15 <Bjarni> yeah 22:30:22 <Sacro> to whom? 22:30:32 <Bjarni> it's short and it actually contains a message 22:30:48 <glx> I prefer :P 22:31:04 <Bjarni> it said that I don't think he will keep his word 22:31:05 <glx> because it displays a smiley in my irc client :) 22:31:12 <Bjarni> :P 22:31:35 <Bjarni> ok, I can't tell a big difference, but if you say so, I can change it to :P 22:31:46 <glx> and I'm too lazy to add :p 22:32:51 <Sacro> lol 22:33:36 <Sacro> think i might rewrite the wiki page for eclipse 22:34:46 <Sacro> it doesnt actually tell you how to set it up 22:39:48 <Sacro> anyone around? 22:40:43 * Sacro finds Allo Allo on tv 22:44:24 <Born_Acorn> Newstations wiki page! 22:49:41 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: you want? 22:50:38 <Born_Acorn> Yes. 22:50:45 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: maybe later 22:51:03 * Born_Acorn nods, as if poorly trained in the art of English and from an Eastern Country 22:51:06 <Born_Acorn> PLS. 22:51:10 <Born_Acorn> etc. 22:53:42 <Sacro> psst, it is I, 'eclerc 22:53:57 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: your just poorly trained 22:54:18 <Born_Acorn> PLS teach english 22:54:21 <Born_Acorn> PLS 22:54:33 <Born_Acorn> etc etc. 22:54:50 <Born_Acorn> I have had three emails from .ru adresses like that. 22:54:54 <Sacro> lol 22:55:02 <Born_Acorn> "Give download to stations. PLS" 22:55:24 <Born_Acorn> Which is why I was happy when I stopped recieving emails! 22:57:30 <Sacro> lol 23:03:21 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040505]"] 23:10:35 *** jmp_ghli [i=rezso@catv-5062a55d.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:18:31 *** Forexs- [n=forexs@62.199.150.132] has joined #openttd 23:24:16 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:30:02 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D8C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 23:31:18 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:31:21 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 23:33:58 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-3365.lns2-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:34:42 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:34:49 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:41:12 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.209] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:57:59 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-192-67.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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