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00:03:26 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-33-248.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 00:09:37 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176112239.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 00:12:28 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 00:31:56 *** MYOB [n=vision@h1.vpn.gov.ie] has joined #openttd 00:44:08 <orudge> Hmm, I'm guessing VC6 support was indeed dropped then? 00:44:14 * orudge notices it not working, anyway 00:47:15 * MYOB wonders what wonderful linking errors he'll have, because the compile has otherwise been smooth, too damn smooth 00:47:57 <MYOB> also, I notice my bemidi implementation is no longer alone as c++ :p 00:49:47 <orudge> Indeed, as of the other day 00:49:51 <orudge> (well, there was dmusic, too) 00:50:05 * orudge is now going to have to attempt to fix compilation with OS/2 though, which will be fun 00:50:09 <orudge> well, Open Watcom 00:50:15 <MYOB> right, where the hell is my PNG configuration 00:54:08 <MYOB> it'd be nice if the dependency calculation wasn't done on every make... 00:57:11 <MYOB> anyway, what did I say about linker issues? yeah... 00:57:23 <MYOB> libraries that don't exist on BeOS being specified, fun fun fun 01:08:18 <MYOB> well, it still works 01:08:21 <MYOB> thats surprising 01:15:53 *** MYOB [n=vision@h1.vpn.gov.ie] has quit ["Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!"] 01:37:39 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:44:59 <Tobin> Morning people. 01:47:13 <Tobin> Hmm, YAPF is in trunk now? 01:47:25 <Tobin> Good work KUDr. 01:49:19 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 01:51:35 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:51:46 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 02:27:37 * Vornicus runs svn update. fwees 02:58:28 <Vornicus> Does the farm do mini_in yet? 03:01:01 * Vornicus makes 5006/miniIN: ===> Compiling language slovak 03:01:02 <Vornicus> lang/slovak.txt:327: FATAL: STR_UNITS_WEIGHT_LONG_IMPERIAL: Invalid number of plural forms. Expecting 3, found 1. 03:01:02 <Vornicus> ===> Compiling language spanish 03:17:22 <Vornicus> also, woot 32-bit tgperlin seeds 03:27:58 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-200-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 03:35:03 *** Smoky555 [i=ljlrnjal@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has joined #openttd 03:37:50 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:37:57 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 04:17:23 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 04:19:27 *** Belugas_Wakes [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:21:02 <Smoky555> is PBS dead? 04:26:40 <Tobin> Smoky555: No, it is not dead. 04:27:09 <Tobin> But the new PBS needs YAPF, which was only merged with the trunk a few days ago. 04:28:05 <Tobin> So you can help speed up the redevelopment of PBS by downloading the most recent nightly and playing with YAPF turned on. 04:28:19 <Tobin> Just remember to submit any bugs you find. 04:28:32 <Smoky555> YAPF was merged into trunk? 04:28:52 <Tobin> Yes. 04:29:11 <Smoky555> rev 4974 ia with YAPF or not? 04:29:22 <Tobin> r4987 is when it was merged. 04:29:37 <Smoky555> thanks :) 04:29:52 * Smoky555 going to dounload fresh trunk .... 04:50:54 *** robobed is now known as roboman 05:14:16 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 05:19:53 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77EAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:20:57 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:32:26 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 05:36:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75731.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:37:14 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 05:41:19 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:42:56 *** Smoky555 [i=ljlrnjal@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has left #openttd [] 05:46:26 *** Smoky555 [i=wt0cdyc4@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has joined #openttd 05:54:47 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:07:59 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 06:18:02 <Celestar> morning 06:23:31 <Mizipzor> Celestar, morning 06:28:07 <Smoky555> is something like PBS in trunk? 06:29:25 <Vornicus> no. 06:29:41 <Smoky555> :( 06:39:53 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-149-245.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:42:21 <Celestar> KUDr: you there` 06:42:22 <Celestar> ? 06:51:44 <Celestar> damnit I'm running outta sprite memory 07:06:07 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:09:08 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.1.3] has joined #openttd 07:11:24 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has joined #openTTD 07:15:48 <KUDr> Celestar: here 07:22:14 * KUDr -> work (talk to you later) 08:15:52 *** SpComb [i=terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 08:16:03 <Bjarni> so long that it's boring, but too short to go home 08:16:23 * Bjarni lives far away from uni 08:16:46 <peter1138> today is a bank holiday here 08:16:50 <peter1138> == day off :D 08:17:01 <Bjarni> you work in a bank? 08:17:08 <peter1138> no 08:17:44 <Bjarni> then I fail to see why it's your day off 08:18:11 <Bjarni> maybe bank holiday means something else than closed banks 08:18:24 <Bjarni> but how should I know 08:18:39 <Bjarni> as peter1138 noticed, English is not my native language 08:19:18 <Celestar> hi peter 08:19:38 <peter1138> " British bank holidays are statutory Public Holidays and have been recognized since 1871. The name Bank Holiday comes from the time when banks were shut and so no trading could take place." 08:20:35 <Bjarni> ahh 08:20:46 <Bjarni> but it leaves one question 08:20:50 <Bjarni> what do you do at work? 08:21:15 <peter1138> sit on irc and fiddle with ottd ;p 08:21:25 <Bjarni> I know 08:21:37 <Bjarni> what I meant was: what should you do at work? 08:22:36 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:23:12 <Celestar> this rocks :) 08:23:27 <Bjarni> the gravel pit? 08:23:32 <Celestar> nah the game (= 08:23:45 <Bjarni> we need gravel pit industries 08:24:22 <Bjarni> damn those annoying and really noisy construction workers 08:24:41 <Bjarni> they are building a new building like 30-50 meters from here 08:24:46 <Bjarni> bbl 08:25:01 <Bjarni> I want to see if I can find a terminal away from those guys 08:27:47 <Celestar> passengers waiting: 3900 :S 08:27:52 <Celestar> rating 12% 08:28:17 <Celestar> I think I overdid this feeding system 08:28:35 <peter1138> imo, cities grow too fast 08:29:35 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/city.png <= do you really think so peter1138 ? 08:30:05 <peter1138> mmm, bridges 08:30:34 <peter1138> that must look pretty weird 08:30:44 <Celestar> what? 08:30:47 <peter1138> with trains going through the side of the viaduct's arch 08:31:34 <Celestar> yes a bit 08:31:39 <peter1138> merge! 08:31:42 <Celestar> that'S why we need those limitations later on 08:31:53 <Celestar> without Tron's consent? :P 08:32:21 *** WR-away [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 08:32:21 * Fujitsu imagines Celestar's crumpled body lying on the floor. 08:32:24 <peter1138> he's not around ;p 08:32:31 <peter1138> Fujitsu: it'll be worth it 08:32:35 <peter1138> err 08:32:36 <peter1138> :D 08:32:40 <Celestar> if he doesn't show up, I'll merge tomorrow, k? 08:32:45 <KUDr_wrk> [09:40:05] <Celestar> KUDr: we should do some thinking concerning signalling <-- right, but i am not sure how much time i will have at work (expecting my US boss here for next two weeks) 08:32:49 * Fujitsu applauds. 08:32:52 * Fujitsu books a funeral. 08:33:07 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: k I'll try to learn stuff about Templates in the meantime 08:33:19 <KUDr_wrk> ok 08:33:31 <Fujitsu> Yay for C++! 08:33:43 <Bjarni> back 08:33:49 <Bjarni> (from a new building) 08:34:03 <KUDr_wrk> moved? 08:34:11 <Fujitsu> Less noise there? 08:34:34 <Bjarni> yeah. Now I can't hear those construction workers at all 08:34:59 <Bjarni> and this is funny. The other place had a decent amount of people using the terminals and here I'm all alone 08:35:45 <Celestar> damn 08:35:50 <Celestar> damn damn damn 08:35:58 <Bjarni> but there aren't any windows, so I only got artificial lights and they are controlled by some sort of motion sensor, so a moment after I entered, the lights wents out and it became completely black 08:36:09 <Bjarni> and it took a while before the lights came back :( 08:36:20 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/ap.png <= and how do I expand this airport now? 08:36:36 <Bjarni> I think it must have looked funny with me trying to get the sensor's attention 08:38:46 <Bjarni> <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/ap.png <= and how do I expand this airport now? <--- you don't 08:39:03 <Bjarni> you build a new one outside of the city and use the feeder service :p 08:39:03 <Celestar> seems very much so, doesn't it? 08:39:18 <Bjarni> that would be nice with passenger destinations 08:40:20 <Bjarni> now I know what to do 08:40:33 <Bjarni> I could look at that "find depot in huge city" thing 08:40:55 <Bjarni> the nice sys admin installed svn here :D 08:42:05 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 08:42:12 <Bjarni> <KUDr_wrk> [09:40:05] <Celestar> KUDr: we should do some thinking concerning signalling <-- right, but i am not sure how much time i will have at work (expecting my US boss here for next two weeks) <-- US boss visit = half of the workers gets fired and they expect production to double from that action 08:42:17 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has left #openttd [] 08:42:19 <Bjarni> and also a morale boost 08:42:52 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 08:43:02 <Vornicus> 2-star conversations. 08:44:07 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-6352.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:45:51 <Celestar> Vornicus: ? 08:46:31 <Bjarni> <KUDr_wrk> [09:40:05] <Celestar> KUDr: we should do some thinking concerning signalling <-- right, but i am not sure how much time i will have at work (expecting my US boss here for next two weeks) 08:46:36 <Bjarni> oops 08:47:31 <Bjarni> make: Fatal error in reader: Makefile, line 136: Unexpected end of line seen 08:47:38 <Bjarni> do you guys get that as well? 08:48:41 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-149-245.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:49:16 <Bjarni> MAKEFILE_VERSION:=10 08:49:22 <Bjarni> how can that be wrong? 08:50:08 <Bjarni> ahh 08:50:16 <Bjarni> I should use gmake, not make 08:50:20 <Bjarni> it's Solaris :p 08:51:14 <KUDr_wrk> Bjarni: yes, true - hopefully it will not be our case 08:51:56 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 08:52:32 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-149-245.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [" l"] 08:52:32 *** robohomework [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:53:03 <Bjarni> something tells me, that I will not get it to compile here :( 08:53:35 <Bjarni> anyway, I can edit the source, make a diff and send that diff home, so I will not waste my time 08:54:01 <Bjarni> it will be interesting to code without a compiler 08:54:22 <Celestar> Bjarni: why no compiler? 08:54:31 <Celestar> I have a solaris box here .. 08:54:37 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-149-245.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:54:59 <Bjarni> I once wrote a whole C app (5 pages or so) in a wordpad like editor because I lacked both compiler and IDE. Once I moved it to a compiler, it just worked :) 08:55:11 <Bjarni> Celestar: I get obscene errors 08:55:45 <Bjarni> cc: Warning: illegal option -dumpversion 08:55:45 <Bjarni> usage: cc [ options] files. Use 'cc -flags' for details 08:55:45 <Bjarni> expr: syntax error 08:56:03 <Celestar> root@niagara:[/]# cc -dumpversion 08:56:03 <Celestar> 3.3.2 08:56:11 <Celestar> you have a stupid compiler .. 08:56:40 <Bjarni> cc -dumpversion 08:56:40 <Bjarni> cc: Warning: illegal option -dumpversion 08:56:49 <Bjarni> gcc -dumpversion 08:56:49 <Bjarni> 4.0.2 08:56:55 <Celestar> then use gcc damnit .. 08:56:57 <Celestar> make CC=gcc 08:57:55 <Bjarni> that didn't work o_O 08:58:01 <Bjarni> it still used cc 08:58:04 <Celestar> what platform is that? 08:58:10 <Bjarni> editing Makefile.config didn't help either 08:58:16 <Bjarni> Sun Solaris 08:58:20 <Celestar> on ? 08:58:24 <Celestar> x86 or Ultrasparc? 08:58:34 <Bjarni> version 10 08:58:43 <Bjarni> Ultrasparc 08:59:57 <Bjarni> * 48 UltraSPARC IIICu CPUs (1050 MHz/8 MB L2-cache) 08:59:57 <Bjarni> * 144 GB memory 09:00:02 <valhallazzzw> :9 09:00:06 <Bjarni> that's the hardware 09:00:06 <Celestar> oh 09:00:13 <Celestar> what command is that Bjarni ? 09:00:30 <Bjarni> tech support homepage ;) 09:00:33 <Celestar> ah 09:00:59 <Celestar> root@niagara:[/]# psrinfo -pv 09:00:59 <Celestar> The physical processor has 32 virtual processors (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31) 09:01:02 <Celestar> UltraSPARC-T1 (cpuid 0 clock 1000 MHz) 09:02:26 <Bjarni> anyway, why would it behave so odd? 09:02:27 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.89.85.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 09:02:30 <Bjarni> it used to work 09:02:41 <Celestar> root@niagara:[/]# svn 09:02:41 <Celestar> svn: Command not found. 09:02:44 <Celestar> :S 09:02:50 * Fujitsu pities Bjarni. 09:02:54 <Fujitsu> I can't stand Solaris! 09:03:10 <Celestar> well, what else run on a T1 :S 09:04:20 <Bjarni> Celestar, download the nightly tarball source 09:04:52 <Bjarni> not as good as svn, but good enough 09:05:25 <Celestar> GAH 09:05:36 <Celestar> root@niagara:[/ottd]# tar -xzf OTTD-source-nightly-r5004.tar.gz 09:05:37 <Celestar> tar: z: unknown function modifier 09:06:03 <vondel> gunzip piped to tar 09:06:10 <Bjarni> weird thing happened. Somebody just showed up, opened the door, saw the nearly empty room and then he left 09:07:04 * Celestar tries to build a dedicated server on Solaris 09:07:32 <Bjarni> why a dedicated server? 09:07:36 <Bjarni> no SDL? 09:07:39 <Celestar> because I don't have SDL 09:07:47 <Celestar> holy f*ck 09:07:58 <Celestar> 13.67 13.97 13.97 166243 0.00 0.00 ViewportDoDraw 09:07:58 <Celestar> 8.54 22.70 8.73 5852670 0.00 0.00 DrawCatenaryRailway 09:08:00 <Celestar> 8.11 30.99 8.29 4162791 0.00 0.00 GfxBlitTileZoomIn 09:08:13 <Bjarni> hey, they updated SDL here. From 1.1.2 to 1.2.9 09:08:44 <Celestar> I can't build a dediserver either apparently 09:09:31 <Celestar> :o it worked 09:10:26 <Celestar> root@niagara:[/ottd/OTTD-source-nightly-r5004]# ./openttd -D 09:10:26 <Celestar> ld.so.1: openttd: fatal: libstdc++.so.5: open failed: No such file or directory 09:10:28 <Celestar> or not .. 09:11:56 <Bjarni> anyay, when I get back home, I can try what I write here 09:12:25 <Bjarni> If I get it to work, I will use all my time on getting it to work and not code a thing 09:13:07 <vondel> Celestar: you'll have to compile a lot yourself 09:13:14 <vondel> in my experience on solaris 09:13:20 <Celestar> no time currently 09:13:33 <vondel> including resolving all deps yourself :( 09:13:57 <Celestar> that'S why I'm going to try to install FreeBSD on that box 09:14:18 <vondel> i'd have liked a sort of user-gentoo which installs into $home/[lib|bin|man] 09:18:29 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:21:11 <Bjarni> ok, now I think I hacked the source into not making your depots transparents 09:21:36 <Bjarni> todo: check that it works, make a new setting flag to turn this on and off 09:21:55 <Bjarni> anybody feel like testing? 09:25:39 <Bjarni> great, lights went out again 09:26:09 <Bjarni> http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s991088/patches/non_transparent_depot.diff <-- if anybody feels like testing 09:26:48 <Bjarni> I don't know if it even compiles, so it's untested and might erase your computer and overload your monitor and kill your cat 09:27:00 <Bjarni> use at your own risk 09:27:25 <Bjarni> but I guess it will not kill your girlfriend 09:27:41 <Bjarni> at least not Sacro's 09:27:44 <vondel> maybe kill the relateion with your gf 09:28:13 <Bjarni> well, it's your risk, not mine 09:28:30 <Bjarni> odds are that the risk is less than this 09:28:34 <Bjarni> I changed two lines 09:28:48 *** robohomework [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:29:15 <Bjarni> either it works, it fails to compile or it fucks up some (but not all) transparent buildings 09:29:17 *** robohomework is now known as robomyth 09:29:38 <Bjarni> damn, that light will not turn on again :( 09:30:21 <Maedhros> Bjarni: it doesn't compile: http://rafb.net/paste/results/9ibFaN68.html 09:30:21 <Bjarni> hmm, actually I got something else to do now, so I will stop sitting here in the dark all alone 09:30:36 <Bjarni> but that means that I will have to leave you :/ 09:30:59 <Bjarni> heh, then it's named something else 09:31:11 <Bjarni> I will figure that one out later 09:31:12 <Bjarni> bye 09:31:18 <Bjarni> quit 09:31:24 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@erlang.gbar.dtu.dk] has quit ["trying again"] 09:32:45 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 09:35:01 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:35:03 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:46:36 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 09:46:57 <peter1138> mutter mutter grumble 09:46:59 <peter1138> stupid wireless 09:49:15 <peter1138> n%100==1 ? 0 : n%100==2 ? 1 : n%100==3 || n%100==4 ? 2 : 3 09:49:15 <peter1138> that is ... 09:51:13 <WR-away> Brianetta's server just crahsed..maybe it had something to do with YAPF..I was tweaking my signal and track arrangements and created a train crash, and a few seconds later the server crashed too 09:51:40 *** WR-away is now known as White_Rabbit 09:51:49 <KUDr_wrk> WR-away: yes, i am aware of one assert but need savegame to reproduce it 09:52:23 <KUDr_wrk> White_Rabbit: also on flyspray it was reported, but without savegame 09:52:40 <White_Rabbit> you can always ask Brianetta later since when the game reaches 2050 she will save it 09:52:46 <KUDr_wrk> what i had from Brianetta, it worked fine for me 09:53:07 <KUDr_wrk> you can save it too i guess 09:53:21 <KUDr_wrk> or you can have autosave 09:53:46 <peter1138> White_Rabbit: he 09:53:53 <KUDr_wrk> but what i don't understand how Brianetta can run server in debug mode 09:53:56 <White_Rabbit> oh, I always forget 09:54:03 <White_Rabbit> why the 'etta' though? ;( 09:54:21 <KUDr_wrk> send me most recent one please 09:54:24 <KUDr_wrk> dunno 09:54:28 <White_Rabbit> I can't..the server crashed, is offline, and I didn't save it :S 09:54:39 <peter1138> White_Rabbit: you'll have a network file 09:54:42 <KUDr_wrk> does he feel like woman? 09:54:58 <peter1138> save/autosave/network_client.sav 09:55:02 <KUDr_wrk> ok 09:55:06 <White_Rabbit> hm, ok 09:55:52 <White_Rabbit> I only have a network_client.tmp 09:56:35 <peter1138> yeah 09:56:40 <peter1138> that 09:57:30 <White_Rabbit> sending, kudr, please accept 09:57:45 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498EF80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:57:51 <KUDr_wrk> hmm, nothing 09:58:08 <KUDr_wrk> maybe worng KUDr 09:58:35 <White_Rabbit> it's KUDr_wrk 09:58:51 <White_Rabbit> I could send it to you via a forum attachment 09:59:05 <KUDr_wrk> no use flyspray if possible 09:59:25 <KUDr_wrk> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/191 09:59:48 <White_Rabbit> oh 10:00:11 <KUDr_wrk> there is report without savegame 10:00:28 <White_Rabbit> do I have to sign up to post? 10:00:35 <KUDr_wrk> ahh 10:00:53 <KUDr_wrk> ok, so forum / development / Yapf testers 10:05:27 <White_Rabbit> wait, I have to zip it first 10:05:45 <White_Rabbit> stupid TT forums...telling me tmp isn't allowed AFTER it spends 5 minutes trying to upload it 10:08:06 <White_Rabbit> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=448513#448513 10:10:37 <peter1138> mv foo.tmp foo.sav ;p 10:10:58 <KUDr_wrk> White_Rabbit: thanks 10:13:13 <White_Rabbit> you're welcome 10:13:31 <Celestar> junctions in non-flat areas are nasty 10:20:44 <White_Rabbit> to look at or to build? 10:20:46 *** peter1139 [n=peter@r3tep.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:20:55 <peter1139> grhuargargargh 10:20:59 <peter1139> lame-ass wifi 10:22:07 * Prof_Frink gives peter1138.5 pie 10:23:19 <Celestar> peter1139's right about the city growth 10:24:15 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/city2.png <= it's getting a little much 10:24:46 <White_Rabbit> lol...I see that junction 10:25:10 *** robomyth is now known as roboman 10:25:10 <peter1138> and that's only 1951 10:25:17 <roboman> hello 10:25:17 <White_Rabbit> something like townsbuildnoroads would be nice 10:25:30 <peter1138> (see, i get x-chat on, and then the wifi starts working 10:25:34 <Celestar> peter1138: yes, but started in 1920 10:29:09 *** valhallazzzw is now known as valhallasw`exam` 10:32:26 <Celestar> but peter1138, I'm normally artifically growing the tows .. 10:33:00 <hylje> :o 10:33:09 <hylje> is there any vehicles in 1920 10:33:20 <Celestar> with DBSetXL, yes 10:33:22 <Celestar> one :P 10:33:34 <peter1138> two 10:33:47 <Celestar> the second being? 10:33:48 <peter1138> a steamer and an electric loco 10:33:52 <Celestar> oh yes 10:34:12 <hylje> electric loco.. in 1920 ? 10:34:17 <Celestar> yes 10:34:20 <White_Rabbit> it's the DBset 10:34:24 <hylje> what the fuck 10:34:26 <Celestar> first electric loco in germany was in 1900 10:34:35 <Celestar> or 1899 10:34:47 <hylje> where did they get the electrisity for that 10:34:53 <Celestar> power plants? 10:35:07 <hylje> :o 10:35:58 <Celestar> http://www.elektrolok.de/Kurzprofile/kp_e62.htm <= built 1913 10:36:07 <White_Rabbit> hehe, the US Set has 5 starting engines in 1920, depending on climate 10:36:31 <peter1138> ukrs has a few, but no leccy locos until the 60s 10:36:36 <peter1138> (iirc) 10:37:19 <Celestar> http://www.elektrolok.de/Baureihen/103-1.htm <= that's the best :) 10:38:45 <White_Rabbit> the UKRS also has 5 starting engines..but you would expect to have so many considering its already long history of steam 10:41:21 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:43:21 <Celestar> food time 10:43:29 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176101072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:43:36 <White_Rabbit> were the EMD Type 5s and Class 67s by the same EMD that made the F and E units? 10:50:14 *** spiff_ [n=anders@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #openttd 10:50:14 *** spiff [n=anders@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:52:27 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:55:20 <Celestar> I'm bribing too much :P 10:56:40 <White_Rabbit> you should post some of your screenshots in the screenshot thread 10:56:53 <vondel> Celestar: selective investment, you mean ;) 10:57:08 <White_Rabbit> your euphemisms are killing me 10:58:01 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 10:59:14 *** _Red is now known as Red 11:02:43 *** Zr40__ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:02:55 *** TinoDidri [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 11:04:58 <Celestar> vondel: (= 11:05:09 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:05:15 <Celestar> screenshot thread? 11:05:17 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:05:46 <White_Rabbit> yes, the OTTD screenshot thread 11:15:11 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.89.85.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:28:42 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 11:31:08 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:31:31 * roboman is tired 11:33:03 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.87.107.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 11:33:17 <roboman> GNIGHT 11:33:48 *** roboman is now known as robobed 11:33:57 <peter1139> hmm 11:34:04 * robobed yawns 11:34:09 <peter1139> where should i put my widechar type? 11:35:13 <White_Rabbit> bye 11:36:01 * peter1139 stashes it in stdafx.h for now 11:36:50 <Celestar> peter1138: ^^ 11:37:45 <CIA-3> miham * r5007 /trunk/lang/ (german.txt hungarian.txt unfinished/ukrainian.txt): 11:37:45 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-29 13:37:28 11:37:45 <CIA-3> german - 3 fixed by Neonox (3) 11:37:45 <CIA-3> hungarian - 3 fixed by miham (3) 11:37:45 <CIA-3> ukrainian - 3 fixed by znikoz (3) 11:39:49 <peter1139> Celestar, I'd put it in openttd.h, but not everything includes that... 11:40:12 <Celestar> not everything needs wchar, right? 11:40:37 <peter1139> no 11:40:39 <peter1139> hmm 11:40:44 *** Zr40__ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:40:45 <Celestar> ok I have a 1024x1024 map of which I have used 200x350 tiles 11:40:51 <Celestar> and I'm running with 150 trains and 200 RVs 11:41:06 <White_Rabbit> it's like Tokyo.. 11:41:30 *** Zr40__ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:41:34 <hylje> :o 11:41:35 * peter1139 puts it in string.h 11:41:35 <peter1139> anything that uses it uses stuff in there... 11:41:35 <peter1139> duh obvious 11:41:38 <Celestar> White_Rabbit: what is? ;) 11:44:08 <White_Rabbit> hey, you still haven't beaten Rob..he's got thousands of vehicles in a 256x256 map (TTDP) 11:44:18 <Celestar> well, not yet 11:44:22 <Celestar> but it's only 1952 11:44:42 <White_Rabbit> true..he played till 5555 :s 11:44:57 <hylje> :o 11:45:11 <hylje> how thousands of vehicles can fit in a 256x256 11:45:54 <Celestar> and the only problem I have is that I only have one mouse :S 11:46:41 <Noldo> hylje: how many busses fit into one tile? 11:46:48 <hylje> four 11:46:51 <White_Rabbit> I don't know..you just have to spend a lot of time (e.g. 5000 years) developing your network 11:47:06 <White_Rabbit> 256*256=65536, so there is space 11:47:08 <Celestar> White_Rabbit: trains or RVs? 11:47:22 <White_Rabbit> trains 11:47:24 <Celestar> I'm amazed that TTDP doesn't kill your CPU with 1000 vehicles. 11:47:43 <White_Rabbit> um, no, it just hurts it a lot..I tried to run it once 11:47:48 <White_Rabbit> I mean run his savegame 11:47:57 <Celestar> then again, I have close to 400 vehicles and run on 800MHz 11:48:49 *** jong_ [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 11:49:28 <Celestar> I love it 11:49:35 <Celestar> the weekend is over and I have 270 unread mails 11:49:51 *** Cipri [n=cipri@a47034.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:50:17 *** blathijs_ [n=matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 11:50:56 <Prof_Frink> The weekend isn't over yet 11:51:09 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:51:14 *** blathijs [n=matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:52:12 *** Rubidium [n=rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:52:52 *** TheMask96 [i=martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:53:53 *** TheMask96 [i=martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:54:09 <Celestar> 121 stations 11:54:15 <Celestar> how many does TTPD support? ;) 11:54:29 *** Rubidium [n=rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 11:54:32 <peter1139> 250 11:54:40 <Celestar> sucks doesn't it? :P 11:54:53 <White_Rabbit> is that 250 max, or 250 per player? 11:55:00 <peter1139> i don't know, i never reach that many 11:55:02 <peter1139> max 11:55:10 <White_Rabbit> because every player is limited to 255 vehicles, but the max can be much more 11:55:31 <Celestar> every player is limited to 255 vehicles? 11:55:31 *** Rubidium_ [n=rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 11:55:31 <Celestar> how can he have 1000 then? 11:55:43 <White_Rabbit> because he buys out the AI's company many, many times, and get their vehicles 11:56:03 *** TL|Away [n=kvirc@truelight.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:56:07 <White_Rabbit> he can no longer buy new ones though 11:56:18 *** jong_ is now known as jong 11:56:30 *** Rubidium_ [n=rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 11:57:14 *** Darkvater [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:57:36 *** peter1139 [n=peter@r3tep.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:00:51 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:10:10 <hylje> how does filezilla crypt its stored passwords 12:15:12 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 12:15:13 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 12:15:37 <MeusH> hi 12:19:25 <White_Rabbit> hey 12:22:02 *** White_Rabbit is now known as WR-away 12:22:56 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-149-245.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:23:28 *** LIIT [n=kasper@0x50a11194.bynxx11.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:26:10 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:26:17 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:26:56 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:27:38 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: you there? 12:27:47 <Sacro> afternoon all 12:31:20 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:54 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 12:37:03 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.87.107.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 12:42:10 *** Darkvater [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 12:42:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 12:42:10 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:43:46 <Celestar> hoi Darkvater 12:49:12 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-5882.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 13:04:07 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5008 /branch/utf8/ (Makefile strgen/strgen.c table/control_codes.h): [utf8] Add an enum list for our string control codes and make strgen use them 13:04:39 *** jong_ [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 13:04:40 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:06:17 *** Smoky555 [i=wt0cdyc4@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has left #openttd [] 13:10:17 <brygge_2> Celestar: when do you plan to merge the bridge branch into the trunk? 13:10:53 <Sacro> now :D 13:11:04 *** Sacro is now known as Sacro|AFK 13:13:08 *** valhallasw`exam` is now known as valhallasw 13:15:10 <WR-away> there was a rumour that the bridges were supposed to be merged 24 hours ago ;( *pokes Sacro* 13:17:17 <brygge_2> WR-avay: yeah i have heard that 13:19:55 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:20:11 <Celestar> brygge_2: possibly tomorrow 13:21:16 <brygge_2> Celestar: cool!! 13:21:29 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:21:50 <Belugas> Hello all 13:25:31 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 13:28:09 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 13:31:24 <KUDr_wrk> [14:25:27] <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: you there? <-- and you? 13:31:45 *** jong__ [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 13:31:45 *** jong_ [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:32:03 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: so, signal development will happen in branch/yapf/ ? 13:32:23 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:32:24 <KUDr_wrk> i don't know 13:32:24 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 13:32:29 <KUDr_wrk> it can 13:32:31 <Celestar> I'd suggest it 13:32:38 <KUDr_wrk> or /signals/ 13:32:49 <KUDr_wrk> depends on you 13:32:50 <Celestar> well we could rename yapf to signals 13:32:57 <KUDr_wrk> so do that 13:33:08 <KUDr_wrk> feel free 13:33:31 <KUDr_wrk> ohhh, another meeting, sorry bbl 13:33:38 <Celestar> what you prefer, I think yapf/ would be easier 13:33:44 <Celestar> if we wanna extract old revisions 13:34:12 *** Sacro|AFK [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 13:34:21 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:41:29 <Celestar> I like the food wagons in DBsetXL 13:41:47 <MeusH> details? 13:41:53 <MeusH> you mean their look? 13:41:57 <Celestar> yeah 13:42:10 <Celestar> typical 3+1+5 layout 13:42:27 <peter1138> hmm? 13:42:53 <Celestar> peter1138: when you build 8 or more main line wagons, the 4th becomes a restaurant ;) 13:43:00 <peter1138> ah, yeah 13:43:28 <Celestar> nice detail 13:44:28 <MeusH> oh, the restaurant :) 13:44:38 <MeusH> I was wondering how did you put food wagons in temperate 13:45:05 <MeusH> that's really nice, indeed. Just like pantos, but pantographs are bit too small 13:45:07 <hylje> :o 13:45:08 <peter1138> restaurant :) 13:45:19 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:27 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 13:48:51 <Celestar> hehe 13:48:55 <Celestar> Total Cargo: 1064 passengers 13:49:45 <hylje> :o 13:49:49 <hylje> how long 13:50:03 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:50:09 <Celestar> 10 tiles 13:51:30 <hylje> that makes for 50 or so passengers per wagon 13:54:58 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498EF80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 13:55:04 <Celestar> 56 13:55:16 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 13:55:50 <Celestar> it looks nice to have that long trains :) 13:56:12 <Celestar> even tho 20 units is a bit on the long side 13:56:21 <Celestar> but 12 or 16 unit trains are rather realistic 13:57:42 * Prof_Frink hands Celestar a 9-car Meridian 13:57:54 <Celestar> a what? 13:58:56 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498EF80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:05 <Prof_Frink> A nice train. Especially as Midland Mainline made a mistake and got too many 1st calss carriages 13:59:14 <Prof_Frink> Declassified 1st :D 13:59:15 <Celestar> ah 14:04:36 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit ["My BNC will keep you warm, vist #teamlag, #hexus.cs"] 14:05:03 <MeusH> hmm a 40 units multi cargo train is amazing 14:05:07 <Celestar> lacking platform capacity kind of sucks 14:05:16 * MeusH agrees 14:05:19 <Celestar> I think 60 units is the maximum in Germany 14:05:52 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 14:08:24 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:08:35 <Celestar> something like that 14:08:47 <Celestar> there was a maximum-120-axle rule, but I'm not sure whether it exists 14:10:01 <vondel> i'd rather expect a max length rule: length of a block 14:10:35 <Celestar> er 14:10:47 <Celestar> length of block is not constant 14:11:47 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 14:18:47 <KUDr_wrk> [15:31:27] <Celestar> what you prefer, I think yapf/ would be easier 14:18:47 <KUDr_wrk> [15:31:33] <Celestar> if we wanna extract old revisions 14:18:49 <KUDr_wrk> yes 14:20:59 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: 14:21:03 <Celestar> openttd: yapf/follow_track.hpp:46: bool CFollowTrackT<Ttr_type_, T90deg_turns_allowed_>::Follow(TileIndex, Trackdir) [with TransportTypes Ttr_type_ = TRANSPORT_ROAD, bool T90deg_turns_allowed_ = true]: Assertion `(GetTileTrackStatus(m_old_tile, TT()) & TrackdirToTrackdirBits(m_old_td)) != 0' failed. 14:21:12 <Celestar> trying to reproduce 14:21:34 <KUDr_wrk> would be good 14:21:49 <KUDr_wrk> i was not able to repro it yet 14:22:15 <KUDr_wrk> i was not able to repro it yet 14:22:34 <Celestar> I might be 14:22:48 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5009 /branch/utf8/strgen/strgen.c: [utf8] Remove byte cast that prevented control codes working 14:22:56 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: got it 14:23:12 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/autosave3.sav 14:23:12 <KUDr_wrk> really? 14:23:37 <MeusH> cya 14:23:40 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 14:24:01 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: load savegame, build a TRACK_RIGHT in 0xCAD6E 14:24:19 <KUDr_wrk> will try... wait 14:24:46 <KUDr_wrk> ohhh, what savegame revision? bridges? 14:24:51 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: yes 14:24:53 <Celestar> sorry 14:25:30 <KUDr_wrk> i must checkout and prepare - some custom grfs too? 14:25:38 <Celestar> same as yesterday 14:25:39 <Celestar> (same game) 14:25:47 <KUDr_wrk> i don't remember 14:25:58 <KUDr_wrk> it was at home 14:26:12 <Celestar> ok 14:26:30 <Celestar> [newgrf] 14:26:30 <Celestar> pb_viaduct.grf 14:26:30 <Celestar> dbsetxlw.grf 14:26:30 <Celestar> newstatsw.grf 14:26:49 <Celestar> all files are in http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/ 14:27:42 <Celestar> peter1138: we ought to increase the sprite memory or make it dynamic 14:29:03 <Celestar> #define SPRITE_CACHE_SIZE 1024*1024 14:29:05 <Celestar> :S 14:32:12 <Celestar> very elegant 14:32:19 <Celestar> espeically since it is malloced lated :S 14:32:23 <Celestar> later* 14:32:37 <gradator> no problem with allocate on write :) 14:35:43 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:26 <peter1138> heh 14:39:52 <peter1138> what's the problem with it? 14:40:07 <peter1138> i've not noticed any odd things... 14:40:16 <Celestar> no 14:40:18 <Celestar> only tons of output 14:40:25 <Celestar> "dbg: Out of sprite mem" 14:40:30 <peter1138> hmm 14:40:37 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar! I got it! Many thanx 14:40:47 <peter1138> never seen that 14:41:40 <Celestar> load the savegame in question 14:41:43 <Celestar> (see above) 14:41:56 <Celestar> zoom fully out and jerk it around 14:43:24 *** Magus_X [i=t7DS@201.41.7.127] has joined #openttd 14:44:06 <Magus_X> yo 14:45:06 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar: interesting bug: truck trying to plan path through railway 14:46:37 <Magus_X> LOL 14:46:39 <Magus_X> really? 14:46:51 <[Shaman]> lol 14:46:52 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: that's not optimal 14:46:57 <Magus_X> lol 14:47:11 <KUDr_wrk> yes, you are probably right 14:47:29 <KUDr_wrk> should train better our truck drivers 14:47:44 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5010 /branch/utf8/ (string.c string.h): [utf8] Add UTF-8 encoding/decoding routines 14:49:30 <KUDr_wrk> hehe i have it 14:49:47 <KUDr_wrk> performance optimization 14:50:01 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5011 /branch/utf8/ (gfx.c strings.c strings.h): 14:50:01 <CIA-3> [utf8] Make the string formatter and drawing code use the new control 14:50:01 <CIA-3> code list, and add UTF-8 parsing 14:52:28 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: great :) 14:52:40 <KUDr_wrk> commit soon 14:53:30 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/191 <= is it this? 14:54:33 <Celestar> Details: after opening a save-game openttd crashed after about 15 seconds. 14:54:38 <Celestar> Comment by KUDr (KUDr) - Monday, 29 May 2006, 12:37AM - Edit - Delete 14:54:39 <Celestar> Where is that savegame? 14:54:42 <Celestar> hr hr :> 14:55:05 <KUDr_wrk> yes 14:55:42 <Celestar> close that report will you? 14:55:50 *** Tefad [n=tefad@unaffiliated/tefad] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:55:56 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:57:13 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:58:08 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:58:21 <KUDr_wrk> yes i will 14:58:27 <Sacro> grrr. GNOME broke :( 14:58:28 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 15:01:44 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5012 /branch/utf8/news_gui.c: [utf8] The news gui contains some string parsing so make it understand UTF-8 sequences 15:02:40 <Sacro> betty_brash: utf8 branch eh 15:02:49 <Sacro> buh :| whats irssi doing now 15:04:44 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5013 /trunk/yapf/follow_track.hpp: 15:04:44 <CIA-3> -Fix: [YAPF] RVs trying to plan route through railway. 15:04:44 <CIA-3> Should fix assert("(GetTileTrackStatus(m_old_tile, TT()) & TrackdirToTrackdirBits(m_old_td)) != 0") 15:04:44 <CIA-3> Thanks Celestar for the reproducible case. 15:05:07 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2C923.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:28 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 15:08:36 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: close the bug report? 15:09:03 <KUDr_wrk> yes, i will, or you can if you want. Now writing to forum 15:09:14 <Sacro> 2/exit 15:09:16 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["leaving"] 15:09:41 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:09:48 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:10:30 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:00 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar: done - thanks again - was going to became headache 15:19:02 <Xeryus|sleeping> hi all 15:19:32 <KUDr_wrk> Xeryus & sleepeng: hi to both 15:20:02 <Xeryus|sleeping> hehe 15:20:04 *** Xeryus|sleeping is now known as XeryusTC 15:20:21 <KUDr_wrk> ah, good morning 15:20:54 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2CF0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:20:54 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 15:21:14 <Sacro> mornnig 15:21:56 <XeryusTC> well, actually its past 5o'clock 15:22:06 <XeryusTC> hadn't much time to change my status this morning :( 15:23:28 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:26:19 *** Hallo [n=me@i251.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 15:39:26 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 15:56:43 *** jong__ [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 15:57:07 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 15:57:24 *** jong [n=jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 16:00:58 *** Magus_X [i=t7DS@201.41.7.127] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:19:56 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-175-21.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 16:27:15 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:48 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 16:47:23 *** ems [n=ems@unaffiliated/ems] has joined #openttd 16:47:25 <ems> hi 16:47:43 <ems> how would I destory a forest? 16:52:25 <valhallasw> not 16:52:29 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:52:37 <valhallasw> or use extra-super-dynamite 16:53:11 <Vornicus> a forest industry? You don't 16:53:36 <Vornicus> well, you could use the bulldozer cheat, but that's exactly that - a cheat 16:54:27 <Belugas> why destroying? In the way? get under :) 16:54:36 <valhallasw> get around ;) 16:54:52 <Vornicus> you can also tunnel under it, or build around it. 16:55:02 <valhallasw> tunneling is bad 16:55:07 <valhallasw> no signals etc 16:55:08 <Vornicus> In the bridge branch you /may/ but I'm not sure build over it. 16:55:21 <Vornicus> meh - it's six squares. You'll live. 16:58:36 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:58:53 *** Angst_ [n=Angst@p549469C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:00:42 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5014 /branch/utf8/currency.c: [utf8] Switch currencies from latin-15 to utf-8 17:01:36 *** Angst_ [n=Angst@p549469C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:01:36 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549469C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:05:35 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B83B53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:09:55 *** vlad236 [n=vlad@86.105.254.214] has joined #openttd 17:10:14 <vlad236> servers 17:12:28 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:12:37 *** WR-away is now known as White_Rabbit 17:13:07 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5015 /branch/utf8/ (namegen.c table/namegen.h): [utf8] Modify the Czech town name generator's string modifier to allow multibyte characters 17:13:40 <peter1138> (bit of a mouthful) 17:15:21 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5016 /branch/utf8/table/namegen.h: [utf8] Switch the town name generator tables from latin-15 to utf-8 17:16:08 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B83DF8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:19:26 *** vlad236 [n=vlad@86.105.254.214] has quit [] 17:20:42 *** argonel [i=argonel@konversation/developer/argonel] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:27:24 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 17:27:59 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:28:01 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 17:29:37 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 17:31:20 *** TinoDidri is now known as Jezral 17:33:08 <MiHaMiX> hmm 17:33:18 <White_Rabbit> is anything being worked on allowing an unrestricted number of airports outside the local authority's area of..authority? 17:33:38 <White_Rabbit> it is odd that you can't place more than two airports 500 tiles away from the only city on the map :s 17:33:42 <CIA-3> miham * r5017 /trunk/lang/ (dutch.txt italian.txt turkish.txt): 17:33:42 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-05-29 19:33:27 17:33:42 <CIA-3> dutch - 3 fixed by webfreakz (3) 17:33:42 <CIA-3> italian - 3 fixed by sidew (3) 17:33:42 <CIA-3> turkish - 4 fixed by jnmbk (4) 17:34:15 <White_Rabbit> well, anyway, anyone want a multiplayer game on r5004? 17:34:33 <MiHaMiX> Total I18N status: 93% - 4941 bad strings out of 73164 strings 17:35:17 <MiHaMiX> Latvian and american translators required! 17:36:13 <Prof_Frink> Can't we just tell the yanks to speak proper english? 17:36:20 <MiHaMiX> lol :D 17:36:51 <MiHaMiX> Prof_Frink: as time goes by the difference between english and american will grow 17:36:56 *** TrueLight [n=kvirc@truelight.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:37:01 <MiHaMiX> TrueLight: hi 17:37:34 <TrueLight> Hi 17:37:42 <TrueLight> almost total internet outage today, all over the country 17:37:44 <TrueLight> really annoying 17:37:53 <TrueLight> I can reach 4 different types of internet connections, all down :s 17:38:09 <XeryusTC> TrueLight: my internet is still working :P 17:38:16 <White_Rabbit> whoa, OTTD needs an 'American' translation? 17:38:41 <XeryusTC> because those guys think they're superior while they're not :P 17:38:47 <TrueLight> XeryusTC: most likely you own cable, because all big ADSL backbones were out.. depending on where you were btw 17:39:17 <XeryusTC> yes, i do have cable so i dont notice anything about adsl malfunctions 17:39:25 <TrueLight> And here SurfNet is still doing stupid... I can only reach part of the internet :s 17:39:32 <White_Rabbit> OTTD doesn't *really* need one, does it? :S anyway, I could translate 17:39:38 <XeryusTC> but theat would mean that something big @ kpn has gone wrong probably 17:39:38 <White_Rabbit> there's nothing to it..just randomly remove 'u's 17:39:39 <TrueLight> and every day, I can reach an otherpart of the internet :p 17:39:49 <TrueLight> XeryusTC: KPN isn't the only one, but okay ;) 17:39:55 <peter1138> the internet 17:40:03 <XeryusTC> TrueLight: maybe the root companies are doing weird stuff 17:40:04 <peter1138> it'll survive a nuclear war 17:40:17 <XeryusTC> TrueLight: most companies still use kpn's network for adsl 17:40:19 <peter1138> snigger 17:40:34 <White_Rabbit> ah, but can it survive a Dr. Strangelove-style Soviet armageddon device? ;) 17:40:36 <TrueLight> XeryusTC: as I said, the 3 big backbones for ADSL (KPN, BabyXL and BBNed) had problems 17:40:37 <MiHaMiX> White_Rabbit: if you're serious, please drop me an email to mihamix (at) openttd (dot) org 17:40:41 <TrueLight> so yeah, most likely something central 17:40:47 <XeryusTC> although there are comming more companies that have their own 17:40:53 <peter1138> White_Rabbit: it's *got* one 17:41:06 <TrueLight> but okay, bypassing some problems with SSH tunnels 17:41:09 <TrueLight> you have to love them :) 17:41:12 <White_Rabbit> hm, why can't I tell you that I can translate it now, Xeruys? 17:41:16 <White_Rabbit> Xeryus* 17:41:37 <Rubidium> TrueLight: the whole surfnet backbone was down (power failure in Amsterdam) 17:41:48 <TrueLight> Rubidium: SurfNet is doing stupid for the past 2 days 17:41:52 <MiHaMiX> White_Rabbit: <kidding>i'd like to receive emails :D</kidding> 17:42:03 <XeryusTC> White_Rabbit: huh? 17:42:08 <White_Rabbit> oops, I talked to the wrong person 17:42:10 <White_Rabbit> I meant MiHaMiX 17:43:30 <TrueLight> bah, I can't reach www.nu.nl :'( Bad day... 17:43:44 <XeryusTC> TrueLight: there must be a big problem if 3 networks go offline 17:43:58 <TrueLight> XeryusTC: nah, small problems 17:43:59 <TrueLight> big effects 17:43:59 <MiHaMiX> White_Rabbit: ok.. let's discuss the details in PM, if that's more convenient to you 17:44:11 <TrueLight> like if SurfNet crashes, all universities go without Internet ;) 17:44:51 * XeryusTC gives them dial up >:) 17:46:28 <TrueLight> Rubidium: one thing I don't get about Amsterdam: one powerfailure, and all big Internet stuff shuts down... why aren't there generators :( 17:46:52 <TrueLight> (btw, again a power failure in amsterdam? /me puts mark against list.. that makes 5 in 2 years....) 17:46:53 <Rubidium> because they are morons 17:47:21 <TrueLight> true 17:47:38 <TrueLight> Ook weet Nuon nog niet wat de oorzaak van de stroomstoring is. <- clearly morons 17:47:46 <XeryusTC> rofl 17:47:51 * XeryusTC remembers campzone 17:48:15 <XeryusTC> midnight, power shutdown, after 45 minutes we have power again, 4 o'clock in the middle of the night, another power failure 17:48:43 <XeryusTC> the problem was that there was some cable not connected probably so it was shaken loose by the fibrations of the generator 8)7 17:48:47 <TrueLight> someone forgot to pay the bill ;) 17:49:07 <XeryusTC> they needed a mechanic to find that out :s 17:49:14 <glx> here a host service had power failure for 2 days 17:49:29 <TrueLight> glx: that you can't call failur 17:49:38 <TrueLight> that is just complete lack of anythinggood ;) 17:49:56 <glx> big in chain reaction 17:50:01 <White_Rabbit> argh..freenode is confusing 17:50:08 <White_Rabbit> what made you choose this over Qnet? ;p 17:50:27 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:50:27 <TrueLight> White_Rabbit: IRC is almost the same on every network :p 17:50:27 <TrueLight> you type here 17:50:27 <MiHaMiX> White_Rabbit: register your nickname at nickserv 17:50:27 <TrueLight> you see the message here 17:50:29 <TrueLight> and we are all happy :) 17:50:32 <XeryusTC> heh, it was pretty funny the first 5 sec, we were at the noise field so everyone had at least 200 watts on audio equipment, so there was a total silence for a few seconds and then people started cursing :P 17:50:50 <Prof_Frink> TrueLight: you don't type there, you type here 17:50:51 <MiHaMiX> TrueLight: I assume White_Rabbit tried to send me a PM :-) 17:51:55 *** White_Rabbit is now known as WhiteRabbit 17:52:00 <WhiteRabbit> oh great... 17:52:10 *** WhiteRabbit is now known as Purple_Elephant 17:53:14 <XeryusTC> gah stupid mmorpg, 18th century setting and you can't choose the dutch :/ 17:53:34 *** Purple_Elephant is now known as White_Rabbit 17:54:02 *** White_Rabbit is now known as Purple_Elephant 17:54:10 <XeryusTC> w00t 17:54:19 <XeryusTC> i'm seeing an invisible purple elephant :) 17:54:37 * Purple_Elephant sits on XeryusTC 17:54:42 <glx> lol 17:54:44 <XeryusTC> :( 17:58:35 <Purple_Elephant> I see that the English language is represented by the English flag...you know, that flag is the only one on the translator site that doesn't even represent a country..except maybe Galician 17:59:31 <glx> Purple_Elephant: you'd prefer Union Jack? 17:59:35 <XeryusTC> you mean the union jack? 17:59:55 <peter1138> what? 17:59:59 <peter1138> that is the english flag... 18:00:26 <peter1138> in what way doesn't it represent a country? 18:00:31 <XeryusTC> oh that flag 18:00:53 <Purple_Elephant> England is no longer a country, is it? it's part of the UK 18:01:13 <ems> <ems> hi 18:01:13 <ems> <ems> how would I destory a forest? 18:01:13 <ems> <valhallasw> not 18:01:13 <ems> * |Jeroen| (n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be) has joined #openttd 18:01:13 <ems> <valhallasw> or use extra-super-dynamite 18:01:14 <ems> <Vornicus> a forest industry? You don't 18:01:16 <ems> <Vornicus> well, you could use the bulldozer cheat, but that's exactly that - a cheat 18:01:18 <ems> <Belugas> why destroying? In the way? get under :) 18:01:20 <ems> <valhallasw> get around ;) 18:01:26 <ems> <Vornicus> you can also tunnel under it, or build around it. 18:01:28 <ems> <valhallasw> tunneling is bad 18:01:30 <ems> <valhallasw> no signals etc 18:01:32 <ems> <Vornicus> In the bridge branch you /may/ but I'm not sure build over it. 18:01:34 <ems> <Vornicus> meh - it's six squares. You'll live. 18:01:36 <ems> I ended up tunneling :/ 18:01:38 <glx> ems: stop that NOW 18:01:40 <XeryusTC> ems: why are you pasting that? 18:01:52 <ems> how nice 18:01:58 <peter1138> Purple_Elephant: er, no 18:02:31 <glx> England is a country, like Scotland and Ireland 18:02:32 <peter1138> but not Wales 18:02:34 <peter1138> Wales doesn't exist 18:02:40 <ems> I can't build a plane at my airports 18:02:44 <ems> *planes 18:02:49 <ems> both are international 18:02:56 *** vlad236 [n=vlad@86.105.254.214] has joined #openttd 18:02:56 <Prof_Frink> It's a conspiracy created by Born_Acorn 18:03:07 <ems> year 1994 18:03:11 <ems> almost 1995 18:03:25 <vlad236> one question: how do i change the map size on a Linux dedicated server ? 18:03:30 <glx> ems: did you click on the hangar ? 18:03:37 <hylje> vlad236: load a custom save 18:03:38 <ems> yes 18:03:49 <peter1138> vlad236: map_x / map_y in the config 18:03:53 <ems> the build airplane button is greyed 18:04:05 <vlad236> k 18:04:13 <vlad236> i'll try 18:04:23 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:06:23 <ems> okay seems to be working 18:06:39 <ems> the button became clickable in 1996 18:06:40 <vlad236> map_x /map_y doesn't work 18:06:41 <ems> the button became clickable in 1995 18:06:54 <Purple_Elephant> I understand now..I assumed it wouldn't be one if it wasn't independent, but if we are separating British and American English, then wouldn't British English belong to Britain? according to Wikipedia, England doesn't even have an official language 18:06:55 <ems> anyone know why I had to wait a year after building them? 18:08:01 <vlad236> how do i change the map size on a Linux dedicated server ? other then map_x/map_y whitch doesn't work 18:08:12 <XeryusTC> vlad236: rcon 18:09:10 <vlad236> what is the command for rcon ? 18:09:36 <XeryusTC> wiki 18:10:06 <glx> rcon password should have been defined in openttd.cfg 18:10:15 <glx> otherwise it's impossible to rcon 18:10:47 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:15:04 <vlad236> rcon works fine but how to change the map size ? 18:15:09 <vlad236> :D 18:15:28 <peter1138> map_x and map_y 18:15:37 <peter1138> is the only way 18:15:45 <MiHaMiX> [[20:07]] <vlad236> map_x /map_y doesn't work 18:16:02 *** Xeryus|sleep [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has joined #openttd 18:16:45 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-184-162.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:17:06 <vlad236> if I change the map_x/map_y value from 8/8 the server won't start 18:19:27 <gradator> too high value ? 18:20:11 <vlad236> no 18:20:19 *** Xeryus|sleep is now known as XeryusTC 18:20:48 <vlad236> i created a conf file from windows from a 2048x2048 map and the values are set to 11/11 18:20:50 <peter1138> what did you set them to? 18:20:59 <vlad236> 16/16 18:21:15 <peter1138> 16 isn't valid 18:21:21 <peter1138> 11 is the max 18:21:45 <vlad236> :D 18:22:10 <vlad236> didn't know that 18:22:34 <vlad236> there should be a complete linux page about the game 18:24:27 <peter1138> this is not linux related :P 18:24:36 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-141-201-116.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:24:50 <ems> linux sucks 18:25:03 <MiHaMiX> ems: may I ask, why? 18:25:24 <ems> MiHaMiX: 10million lines of crap 18:25:28 <|Jeroen|> beceaus he is to stupid to use it i presume :-) 18:25:51 <ems> I am shocked that some of the code even runs 18:25:54 <MiHaMiX> ems: write better if you can.. otherwise, keep your mouth shut :-P 18:26:25 <ems> MiHaMiX: see Plan 9. Its got better support for certain hardware than linux. 18:26:31 <ems> readable code 18:26:38 <ems> easy to understand 18:26:40 <ems> nice ideas 18:26:48 <MiHaMiX> ems: 'certain' hardware -- that's the key. 18:27:06 <ems> e.g. bluetooth 18:27:08 <MiHaMiX> ems: on maybe <1% of all hardware? 18:27:25 <ems> linux acpi is shocking 18:27:32 <ems> it doesn't even have acpi yet 18:27:42 <|Jeroen|> euh it does 18:27:49 <ems> so that offer an advantage if the acpi is fucking up.... 18:27:52 <MiHaMiX> ems: 18:27:54 <ems> *acpi code 18:27:54 <|Jeroen|> and it works fine 18:27:59 <MiHaMiX> http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9/img/screenshot.gif 18:28:03 <MiHaMiX> <-- nice gui 18:28:08 <ems> lol 18:28:13 <ems> 8bit 18:28:13 <|Jeroen|> no wonder the code is understandable 18:28:14 <MiHaMiX> resembles me to the old sv4 gui 18:28:21 <ems> from 89 18:28:28 <ems> historical screenshot 18:28:56 <MiHaMiX> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/img/mirtchov/plan9-graphics.png 18:29:19 <MiHaMiX> is it historical too? :P 18:29:20 <ems> yes that is a bit more modern 18:29:33 <|Jeroen|> wow yeah its got a clock and everything 18:29:34 <ems> see its current load in that screenshot 18:29:56 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 18:30:09 <ems> I have reached loads of ~4300 with it 18:30:33 <MiHaMiX> ems: i'm sorry to say, but that's gui just sucks. 18:30:49 <ems> be careful of the asic... it might come off.... 18:30:57 <MiHaMiX> ems: might. 18:31:09 <MiHaMiX> ems: did you ported openttd to plan 9? 18:31:14 <ems> MiHaMiX: you haven't even tryed it... 18:31:15 <ems> no 18:31:18 <Purple_Elephant> back, MiHaMiX? ;) 18:31:45 <MiHaMiX> Purple_Elephant: yes 18:31:49 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 18:31:54 <ems> <MiHaMiX> ems: might. << not might. defently if your hardware can't support that type of heat 18:32:28 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:32:30 <MiHaMiX> ems: and as long as it looks like as on the screenshots, I won't give it a damn try :) 18:32:58 <ems> MiHaMiX: you don't know how the gui works 18:33:05 <ems> it has many very interesting ideas 18:34:24 <MiHaMiX> ems: tell me at least one, please 18:34:43 <ems> MiHaMiX: see the man pages. 18:34:49 <ems> rio is the window manager 18:35:13 <MiHaMiX> ems: does KDE is ported to plan9? 18:35:20 <ems> lol 18:35:24 <ems> sure hope not 18:35:27 <MiHaMiX> ems: i can tell you now that i don't like rio 18:35:36 *** vlad236 [n=vlad@86.105.254.214] has quit [] 18:35:44 <ems> MiHaMiX: because it doesn't shine in your face? 18:36:34 <MiHaMiX> ems: no. 18:36:58 <ems> MiHaMiX: because you have no idea how to use it. 18:37:03 <MiHaMiX> ems: because it doesn't have those features which are very widespread and highly favoured nowadays 18:37:24 <MiHaMiX> ems: you're obviosly mistaken, since I prefer console rather than gui 18:37:37 <ems> lol 18:37:48 <MiHaMiX> ems: but the window manager you shown me is so old-fashioned. 18:37:53 <ems> okay you are judging way to quickly 18:38:04 <MiHaMiX> ems: you too, I think. 18:38:06 <ems> MiHaMiX: I would differ. 18:38:16 <ems> I actually have used Plan 9 18:38:28 <ems> and I find it very powerful 18:38:28 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:39:06 <ems> and I know many people who prefer it over any of the Windows-like window managers 18:39:20 <MiHaMiX> ems: well, your introduction was a bit too harsh.. maybe that's why I misjudged you 18:39:37 <ems> what introduction? 18:39:44 <MiHaMiX> [[20:25]] <ems> linux sucks 18:39:46 <MiHaMiX> [[20:25]] <ems> MiHaMiX: 10million lines of crap 18:39:46 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5018 /trunk/yapf/ (9 files in 2 dirs): [YAPF] Added some comments to YAPF implementation. 18:39:51 <peter1138> "linux sucks" 18:39:58 <peter1138> is not the most persuasive argument 18:40:13 <ems> <ems> hi 18:40:24 <Purple_Elephant> MiHaMiX, have you received my PMs? 18:40:49 <MiHaMiX> Purple_Elephant: none of them. you should register your nick prior :-) 18:41:12 <MiHaMiX> [[18:47]] <ems> hi 18:41:45 <MiHaMiX> ems: between your initial 'hi' and the above 'linux sucks' there was almost 100 minutes.. 18:41:57 <Purple_Elephant> argh, but I did? 18:42:22 <MiHaMiX> ems: and during this 98 minutes you've done a flood, which lowered your reputation 18:42:34 <ems> ... 18:42:40 <ems> I flooded.... right.... 18:42:46 <Purple_Elephant> nevermind..I just forgot to log in 18:44:28 *** Cipri [n=cipri@a47034.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:20 *** |VillageIdiot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:02:49 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 19:04:37 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:04:46 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46c04.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:04:47 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 19:05:37 <peter1138> and then he said 19:05:40 <peter1138> oh, hello bjarni 19:05:48 *** Purple_Elephant [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 19:06:15 *** Zr40__ is now known as Zr40 19:08:59 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD6D423.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 19:11:25 <Bjarni> hi peter1138 19:11:32 <Bjarni> hi Janet 19:12:41 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:16:05 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:17:10 <Sacro> bjarni enters, purple elephant leaves...hmmm 19:17:30 * Sacro finds that suspicious 19:20:46 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 19:21:10 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 19:23:48 <Bjarni> I don't see any purple elephants 19:23:52 <Born_Acorn> Are you trying to suggest that our dear Bjarni is a purple elephant? 19:23:54 <Bjarni> Sacro: are you drunk? 19:24:06 <Sacro> Bjarni: me? never 19:24:09 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, are you a purple elephant? 19:24:25 <Born_Acorn> be truthful. 19:24:29 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:24:52 <Bjarni> I don't think so 19:24:55 <Sacro> perhaps they just share a pc 19:25:05 <Born_Acorn> There. Case closed. 19:25:10 <Bjarni> no 19:25:19 <Bjarni> there aren't any purple elephants here 19:25:58 <Sacro> [20:06:19] Signoff: Purple_Elephant () <- he left 19:26:12 <Bjarni> you just made that up 19:26:19 <Bjarni> the real reason is that you sobered up 19:26:20 <Sacro> no i didnt 19:26:42 <Sacro> scroll up and you will see its true 19:27:01 <Bjarni> I can't scroll back to 20:06 19:27:06 <Bjarni> I was not even online at that time 19:27:09 <Sacro> hmm, even stranger, the purple elephant went as born acorn came in... 19:27:28 <Sacro> now that makes sense 19:27:28 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: you sobered up? 19:27:41 <glx> Sacro: Purple_Elephant is White_Rabbit 19:27:54 <Sacro> glx: err, now that doesnt really help 19:27:56 <Bjarni> White_Rabbit is drunk? 19:28:07 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:28:21 <Sacro> tsk tsk tsk /me goes after food 19:28:23 <Born_Acorn> Maybe I did. 19:28:36 <Born_Acorn> Maybe I just got drunk, and became completely normal as a result. 19:28:44 <Brianetta> I see my nightly crashed 19:29:03 <Bjarni> <Born_Acorn> Maybe I just got drunk, and became completely normal as a result. <-- now that's just scary 19:29:09 <Bjarni> Brianetta: :( 19:29:14 <Brianetta> YAPF again 19:29:28 <Brianetta> Well, it's supposed to be updated, according to the changelog 19:29:33 <Brianetta> so it might not happen after I update it 19:29:37 <KUDr> crash? 19:30:01 <Brianetta> openttd: yapf/follow_track.hpp:46: bool CFollowTrackT<Ttr_type_, T90deg_turns_allowed_>::Follow(unsigned int, Trackdirs) [with TransportTypes Ttr_type_ = TRANSPORT_ROAD, bool T90deg_turns_allowed_ = true]: Assertion `(GetTileTrackStatus(m_old_tile, TT()) & TrackdirToTrackdirBits(m_old_td)) != 0' failed. 19:30:04 <Brianetta> The usual 19:30:16 <KUDr> i fixed it today 19:30:34 <KUDr> Brianetta: please, i need reproducible case 19:30:37 <Brianetta> That was last night's 19:30:43 <KUDr> aha 19:30:50 <KUDr> not today's? 19:30:51 <Brianetta> KUDr: I can't provide you with a reproducable case 19:30:56 <Brianetta> Not today's 19:31:00 <KUDr> aha 19:31:01 <KUDr> then ok 19:31:06 <KUDr> update it 19:31:12 <KUDr> to today's 19:31:16 <Scia> disable asserts... 19:31:30 <Brianetta> I have a saved game every time somebody joins, and after everybody leaves 19:31:40 <Brianetta> I don't have autosaves because it gets in the way 19:31:44 <glx> Scia: asserts are here for a good reason 19:32:00 <Scia> yes, but not for servers :p 19:32:04 <KUDr> Brianetta: can u update it to today's nigntly? 19:32:11 <Brianetta> KUDr: Compiling now 19:32:18 <KUDr> it should be fixed by r5013 19:32:21 <Scia> but you are right 19:32:25 <Brianetta> KUDr: If you want, knock up some trace code and I'll patch it in 19:32:40 <KUDr> if it will happen again, then yes 19:32:55 <Brianetta> Right compiled, starting game 19:33:23 <Brianetta> Ten years left (: 19:33:39 <Bjarni> Scia: asserts are used when say you need a pointer and then you assert if it is a NULL pointer. If the assert is disabled, then the app just dies and you don't know what happened 19:33:54 <Bjarni> so basically they are where to tell what went wrong 19:34:29 <Brianetta> Some asserts are harmless, but we can't know that and decide to disable them blindly 19:34:38 <Scia> ok, good to know :) 19:34:39 * Scia hides 19:35:12 <Brianetta> It's good to assert that a is not 0 before dividing by a 19:35:21 <KUDr> <Brianetta> Some asserts are harmless, but we can't know that and decide to disable them blindly <-- yes. This one is harmless but can show me where i have holes. So it is very helpfull 19:35:29 <Brianetta> By the time it's production code, you should be able to guarantee that a is non-zero 19:37:52 <Bjarni> KUDr: I triggered a harmless assert as well, but I used it to figure out where I had a bug. Now it works each time 19:38:08 <Bjarni> that would have been hard to figure out if I didn't add that assert 19:38:24 <KUDr> the same here 19:38:38 <KUDr> so i am happy taht i added them on proper places 19:42:33 <peter1138> http://www.wickerpedia.org/ 19:42:34 <peter1138> o_O 19:43:23 <Bjarni> that proofs it 19:43:32 <Bjarni> you can find everything on the internet 19:43:37 <peter1138> proves 19:44:07 <Bjarni> yeah 19:44:15 <Bjarni> and that proves another thing 19:44:23 <Brianetta> There's only one page on there! (: 19:44:26 <Bjarni> don't write when you watch TV 19:45:02 <Brianetta> www.sickipedia.org 19:45:44 <hylje> wickerpedia:> 19:46:25 <Bjarni> Elton John is getting a divorce. 19:46:25 <Bjarni> He found out his husband was having sex behind his back. 19:46:26 <Bjarni> hehe 19:46:37 <Tefad> . . . 19:46:45 <hylje> what the fuck 19:47:15 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E91B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 19:48:47 <XeryusTC> Bjarni: roflmaao 19:48:47 <hylje> http://qdb.us/60330 19:49:48 <XeryusTC> roflmaao again :) 19:50:02 <Noldo> rolfmaotsetung 19:51:34 <hylje> Rofl Mao Teh Tung 19:52:27 <Sacro> peter1138: you seen the wookiepedia? 19:52:43 <Sacro> KUDr: someone posted a Brianetta's Nightly save in the YAPF testing topic 19:52:51 <hylje> wookieepedia has crazy articles 19:53:04 <hylje> liek 10k lines for palpatine 19:53:28 <hylje> and he hardly even shows up in the trilogies 19:53:30 <Brianetta> Sacro: 'twasn't useful 19:53:32 <KUDr> Sacro: it was old - from yesterday 19:53:32 <XeryusTC> wookie, like that heary guy from star wars? 19:53:37 <peter1138> no 19:53:41 <Sacro> Brianetta: KUDr: ah right, sorry 19:53:42 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:53:50 <hylje> XeryusTC: yes 19:54:32 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 19:56:23 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:57:02 <KUDr> huh Brianetta's server uses left side driving... 19:57:24 <Brianetta> Naturally - it's a UKRS server 19:57:51 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:57:57 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 20:00:19 <XeryusTC> The pizza delivery man hands the Buddhist the pizza, who pays with a 20. The delivery man starts to walk away, when the Buddhist stops him and asks for his change. 20:00:19 <XeryusTC> The delivery man replies "Change comes from within." 20:00:21 <KUDr> Naturally? it is so strange.. 20:00:22 <XeryusTC> rofl _O- 20:00:48 <Brianetta> KUDr: In the UK, we drive on the left... so in the UKRS... 20:01:11 <KUDr> i know 20:01:16 <Brianetta> (: 20:01:16 <Prof_Frink> KUDr: We're right, you're wrong. Get over it. 20:01:23 <KUDr> this is why i used only taxi there 20:02:03 <Brianetta> Could have used the bus 20:02:06 <Brianetta> or a train 20:02:47 <KUDr> Brianetta: i had map but didn't understand public transportation there 20:02:50 <KUDr> Manchester 20:03:28 <KUDr> in US we always borrow car 20:03:31 <Bjarni> do trains drive in the left side in GB? 20:03:33 <KUDr> it is lot better 20:03:58 <KUDr> Bjarni: sure they are so confused, that yes 20:04:06 <hylje> http://swgalaxies.datastart.hu/modules/Videos/files/vader-loituma.swf :x 20:04:21 <Bjarni> I thought that they were driving in the right side, so GB is like Sweden, the road traffic and the trains do not drive in the same side 20:04:52 <Brianetta> Bjarni: Yes, usually 20:05:06 <Brianetta> The trains are on the left 20:05:15 <Brianetta> as is the road traffic 20:06:26 <Bjarni> what reason is there for left side driving besides historical reasons? 20:06:43 <hylje> better defence 20:06:54 <Bjarni> ahh, tourists...... 20:06:55 <Bjarni> go figure 20:07:30 <hylje> because people could use their swordhands better when the enemy was on the right 20:07:56 <Bjarni> that is part of "historical reasons" 20:07:57 <Brianetta> Also 20:08:12 <Brianetta> It's much easier to operate the ticket machine at the barrier of a car park 20:08:14 <Brianetta> with your right hand 20:08:20 <Bjarni> I would say that it's not that often that you attack oncoming traffic with swords 20:08:30 <Brianetta> and it means you can kepe your right hand on the wheel while changing gear 20:08:39 <Triffid_Hunter> lol Brianetta was about to say that 20:09:15 <glx> my right hand is rarely active when I drive 20:09:19 <Bjarni> but if you drive in the right side, then you use your right hand to change gear 20:09:36 <XeryusTC> i think i would prefer to use my right hand to change gear 20:09:36 <Bjarni> glx: got automatic transmission? 20:09:54 <hylje> automagic ftw 20:09:55 <glx> no 20:10:02 <Belugas> automatic transmission : best driving ever! 20:10:05 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:10:32 <Triffid_Hunter> i would prefer to use my more nimble hand to steer the car, something much more sensitive to innacuracy than a gear stick 20:10:52 <Bjarni> <Belugas> automatic transmission : best driving ever! <-- higher fuel comsubtion, at least if you drive like I do, but it takes more skill from the driver to use a manual transmission 20:11:01 <Belugas> Got free hand to do interesting stuff :) phone, type, scratch nose, drink etc. :) 20:11:12 <hylje> masturbate 20:11:21 <Belugas> fuel consumption can be high in both case. It depends of the driver 20:11:25 <Bjarni> I would hate to image why Triffid_Hunter wants to have a free hand while driving 20:11:50 <Belugas> in town, in respect drive limits. 20:12:17 <Belugas> on highways, i don't . 100km is quite .. boring. 20:12:29 <hylje> if you drive a solid 60km/h fuel consumption will be rly low 20:12:30 <Brianetta> http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=17253 20:12:32 <Belugas> 140 km is comfortable :) 20:12:40 <glx> I never use highways 20:12:46 <peter1138> hylje: not in first gear :) 20:12:56 <glx> my car can't reach 130 km/h 20:13:07 <hylje> :< 20:13:27 <Belugas> I once drove mine to 180km 20:13:34 <Belugas> my wife was not around :D 20:13:39 <glx> :) 20:13:58 <peter1138> i was once doing 105 mph at ~ 1am 20:14:02 <Brianetta> Going to see Echo and the Bunnymen tomorrow (: 20:14:06 <Bjarni> your economical cruse speed depends on your engine and transmission and some other stuff on the car (like how it performs in a wind tunnel) 20:14:09 <peter1138> and a huge artic cut across in front of me 20:14:10 <peter1138> bastard 20:14:16 <KUDr> Belugas: i drive sometimes 200 kmh also with wife 20:14:37 <KUDr> it is fun to look at her 20:14:47 <KUDr> changing colors and so 20:14:51 <Belugas> you're brave :) 20:14:58 *** ems [n=ems@unaffiliated/ems] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 20:14:59 <Belugas> or sadistic hahaha! 20:15:01 <peter1138> at that speed, look at the road :P 20:15:02 <hylje> swedes are crazy during the night 20:15:08 <KUDr> but she drives 170 with her car 20:15:11 <hylje> during the day they all drive exactly by the speed limits 20:15:16 <Belugas> Anyway, 200km, on Quebec's roads is suicidal :( 20:15:26 <hylje> but at night they might go around 180km/h 20:15:31 <hylje> and thats not even in highways 20:15:46 <KUDr> here it is only expensive 20:17:18 <Belugas> so, at 200 km, don't masturbate, get someone else to do it 20:18:17 <KUDr> heh 20:18:48 <KUDr> out of service already 20:19:10 <Bjarni> <Belugas> so, at 200 km, don't masturbate, get someone else to do it <-- that depends on your vehicle 20:19:17 <Bjarni> and if you are the driver or not 20:20:19 <XeryusTC> well, matrubating in a plane @ 200km/h isn't advisable too :P 20:20:39 <Bjarni> <Belugas> Anyway, 200km, on Quebec's roads is suicidal :( <-- ohh, that reminds me of when I went to an island and right after the ferry landing, there was a sign saying max 50 km/h on the entire island 20:20:48 <Bjarni> no road was good enough for more 20:21:02 <Bjarni> more would also be unhealthy for your car 20:21:13 <Bjarni> they had a lot of dirt roads 20:21:39 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5019 /branch/utf8/ (misc_gui.c station_gui.c): [utf8] When creating cargo acceptance strings, test for the presence of a comma instead of position within the string to determine if there is no acceptance. 20:22:04 <XeryusTC> i once was in a car that did about 160km/h on a 50km/h road 20:22:21 <peter1138> i did 85 mph in a fiat uno once 20:22:24 <peter1138> that was scary 20:22:25 <Belugas> Bjarni : what island was it? 20:22:57 <Belugas> I never drove or been in a fiat before :( 20:23:15 <Belugas> I don't think any fiat are present on the continent 20:23:20 <Belugas> same as Renault 20:23:21 <Belugas> well... 20:23:23 <glx> peter1138: try 140km/h in a citroen visa 20:23:25 <Belugas> new ones 20:23:41 <glx> flat twin (652cc) 20:24:17 <glx> citroen says max speed is 125 20:24:43 <peter1138> feh 20:25:47 <Belugas> down a hill with wind in the back 20:26:08 <glx> on flat without wind in front :) 20:26:22 * KUDr has 16 years old crap car 20:26:55 <glx> my visa is older (1987) 20:27:12 <KUDr> visa card? 20:27:19 <glx> visa car :) 20:27:30 <KUDr> hmm don't know such 20:27:54 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 20:28:25 <Belugas> neither do i. 20:28:46 <glx> http://www.citroenvisa.net/ 20:29:12 <KUDr> looks like normal car 20:29:14 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 20:29:42 <peter1138> it is 20:29:52 <glx> just a small engine 20:29:57 <KUDr> so why 125 only? 20:30:01 <KUDr> aha 20:30:02 <glx> 2CV engine 20:30:14 <glx> with electronic ignition 20:30:47 <KUDr> so it is good 20:31:03 <glx> not now (module start to fail) 20:31:11 <glx> and it's hard to find 20:31:42 <Belugas> Corrola 2003. Red. Sport. With CD-MP3 Vroooooom VroooooomVroooooomVroooooom 20:31:52 <Belugas> don't drink much 20:31:58 <Belugas> comfy 20:31:58 <glx> toyota 20:32:10 <Belugas> yes 20:32:21 <glx> unbreakable cars :) 20:32:41 * Sacro wants a car 20:33:21 <Belugas> That was the idea. With the birth of my son, I did not wanted to get caugh with repairs when money has better place to be put then on car repairs :D 20:33:50 <Belugas> Who knows... it migh be his first car ;) 20:34:08 <glx> possible :) 20:34:35 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5020 /branch/utf8/strings.c: [utf8] Use unicode control code values for station facility icons, instead of magic numbers 20:35:06 <hylje> magic numbers ! 20:35:09 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 20:35:13 * peter1138 has a 2000 citroën xantia 20:35:21 <peter1138> hylje: yeah, magic numbers in an enum, not every where ;) 20:35:38 <glx> xantia is good 20:35:46 * Belugas_Gone has a strong urge to get home 20:35:52 <Belugas_Gone> bye guys 20:35:56 <glx> bye Belugas_Gone 20:36:37 <Belugas_Gone> nice looking one, peter1138 :) 20:36:44 <Belugas_Gone> bye glx 20:36:45 <Belugas_Gone> gone 20:37:41 <peter1138> i wouldn't mind a DS... 20:37:49 <peter1138> expensive these days though 20:37:59 <glx> but still cool 20:38:12 <hylje> will you port ottd to wii if its homebrew-friendly ? 20:38:40 <glx> hylje: do it yourself ? :) 20:38:43 <peter1138> hylje: buy me a wii and i'll think about it 20:38:50 <hylje> :> 20:38:58 <hylje> im asking questions at this time 20:39:06 <hylje> might do something useful later on 20:40:16 <glx> btw nintendo like to use non standard things 20:40:59 <hylje> rly ? 20:41:33 <glx> or unstandardize standard things, like the disc driver on game cube 20:42:06 <glx> normal driver with something that don't allow you to put normal discs in it 20:42:30 <glx> unless you cut some plastic 20:45:40 <hylje> and it runs backwards 20:46:04 <glx> ha? 20:46:09 <glx> didn't know that 20:46:25 <hylje> now you do 20:46:58 *** anboni [i=daemon@ivory.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:48:04 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E91B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:50:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B761CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:51:55 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 20:52:13 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5021 /branch/utf8/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [utf8] Add unicode character to glyph mapping scheme 20:55:57 <Sacro> anyone in here using PostNuke? 20:56:26 <Bjarni> no 20:56:33 <Bjarni> I saw winnuke once though 20:56:50 <Bjarni> now that was fun 20:56:56 <Bjarni> specially since it was a mac version 20:57:03 <Sacro> hmm 20:57:19 <Bjarni> so you was completely safe from it, yet you could attack other computers 20:57:22 <MiHaMiX> :DDDD 20:57:25 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: :DDDD 20:57:27 <Bjarni> I didn't do it though 20:57:41 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: you have a weird but funny sense of humour :-)) 20:58:05 <Bjarni> but the fact that it was floating around on the LAN made it funny to talk to windows users 20:58:46 <Bjarni> AFAIK no serious attacks were made. Only one to see if it actually worked 20:58:55 <Bjarni> or something like that 20:59:09 <Bjarni> <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: you have a weird but funny sense of humour :-)) <--- how do you mean "weird"? 20:59:39 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 21:05:49 <Sacro> think i just broke gedit 21:06:17 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: someone asked for PostNuke and you tells a story about WinNuke, which is a completely unrelated not counting his similar suffix :) 21:06:39 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: I call it weird, but funny, since I'm doing the same all the time :) 21:07:40 <Bjarni> ahh 21:07:52 * Bjarni don't know PostNuke at all 21:07:58 <Bjarni> so how should I know? 21:08:08 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5022 /branch/utf8/newgrf.c: [utf8] Support loading of unicode glyphs via newgrf action 12 21:08:25 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77EAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:08:29 <Bjarni> peter1138: how far away is true utf-8? 21:08:50 <glx> hea has all display stuff ready I think 21:09:08 <glx> but not all commited 21:10:38 <peter1138> mostly 21:10:44 <peter1138> i've not done any of the freetype stuff yet 21:11:00 <peter1138> but that's not a whole lot of work 21:11:44 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549469C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 21:11:50 <Bjarni> so with your activity at work, I would say 2 or 3 days, right? 21:17:44 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 21:20:21 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.1.3] has quit ["Induhvidual Quote: Let's pair up into threes."] 21:21:01 <Bjarni> I take no reply as no disagrement :) 21:21:10 <Bjarni> *disagreement 21:24:54 <peter1138> heh 21:25:11 <Sacro> hmm 21:28:28 <peter1138> Sacro: that's my line 21:29:14 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-5882.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:29:19 <Bjarni> I guess Sacro decided to see if you get better at coding by saying that 21:29:27 <peter1138> yeah 21:29:34 <peter1138> he does it instead of me 21:29:37 <Bjarni> sounds desperate, but somehow it would not surprise me 21:29:39 <peter1138> leaving me more time to code 21:29:45 <Sacro> im having a fight with postnuke 21:29:47 <peter1138> though i doubt sacro cares much about utf8 21:29:49 <peter1138> newsounds... 21:29:50 <peter1138> 2cc... 21:29:51 <peter1138> otoh 21:30:00 <Sacro> sacro does want 2cc and newsounds 21:30:05 <Bjarni> did you commit any newsounds diff? 21:30:08 <Sacro> but utf8 wont affect him 21:30:14 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B76CA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:50 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 21:30:53 <Bjarni> Sacro: it will affect you in some way. When you go online to play, Russian players will start to beat you up and you don't even know to say their company names :p 21:31:01 <peter1138> ehehe 21:31:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: ill call my stepsister over 21:31:24 <Bjarni> you got a Russian stepsister? 21:31:27 <Born_Acorn> All stepsisters are men in disguise. 21:31:33 <Sacro> ukrainian 21:31:39 <Bjarni> oh, like that 21:31:42 <Born_Acorn> Really butch men who visit a gym every day. 21:31:57 <Bjarni> your dad left your mom and bought a new wife. One that can't say no 21:31:58 <Born_Acorn> They are all "in the council". 21:32:07 <Sacro> im pondering as to whether Born_Acorn is an intelligant bot, or a under intelligent person :) 21:32:29 <Born_Acorn> I can spell intelligent. 21:32:36 <Born_Acorn> So ther.e 21:32:45 <Born_Acorn> move the . to the right one. 21:32:52 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn knows about that men as women thing 21:33:01 <Sacro> you could just link to the wikitionary though 21:33:05 <Bjarni> I mean, (s)he acts under the name Janet 21:33:21 * Bjarni hides 21:33:28 <Born_Acorn> I am Janet. 21:33:30 <Born_Acorn> In disguise. 21:33:44 * Bjarni calls dr. Freud 21:34:06 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: why do you claim to be your own mother? 21:34:11 <Born_Acorn> As Detective Jones of the police, I have to infiltrate an evil cult where everyone is named Janet. 21:34:20 <Born_Acorn> So I am in disguise as Janet. 21:34:27 <Bjarni> what happened in your childhood, that made it better to be your mother than yourself? 21:34:40 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:35:16 <Bjarni> or did it start when the girls in your class started to get boobs and you wanted some as well? 21:35:18 <Born_Acorn> I have no childhood. As a police officer, I was bred in test tube the other day. 21:36:03 <Bjarni> it happens to a lot of boys. When they see that the girls gets boobs, then they want to touch them and they all act differently to rejections 21:36:33 * Bjarni think that he found the reason here 21:36:47 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: I got a solution for you 21:36:51 <Bjarni> you need to get laid 21:37:00 <Bjarni> with a girl, that is 21:37:19 <Prof_Frink> Born_Acorn: Come on #tycoon an abuse }EuMircea{ 21:37:26 <Born_Acorn> Yes boss. 21:38:13 <Bjarni> o_O 21:38:19 <Bjarni> I was not talking about abuse 21:38:33 <Bjarni> well, maybe I was, since Born_Acorn is not for the girls, but still... 21:38:55 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Clueless TTDPatch luser 21:39:10 <Born_Acorn> (22:39:04) <Born_Acorn> }EuMircea{, you suck. 21:39:10 <Born_Acorn> (22:39:07) <Born_Acorn> End of. 21:39:10 <Born_Acorn> (22:39:12) <}EuMircea{> ? 21:39:18 <Born_Acorn> I win the round. 21:39:23 <glx> lol 21:39:36 <Bjarni> lol 21:39:48 *** |VillageIdiot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:39:50 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 21:39:56 <Bjarni> where is #tycoon? 21:40:03 <Bjarni> some quake thing if I recall correctly 21:40:06 <Prof_Frink> Quacknet 21:40:07 <Born_Acorn> Another dimension. 21:40:16 <Born_Acorn> (Quakenet to the laymans terms) 21:40:37 <Born_Acorn> Where netsplits are common, and Counterstrike players are rampant. 21:40:43 <Born_Acorn> (do not touch them) 21:40:43 <Bjarni> the next guy to not tell me where it really is will be kicked 21:41:21 <Born_Acorn> What about not not telling you? Like #tycoon is not not on (22:39:04) <Born_Acorn> }EuMircea{, you suck. 21:41:21 <Born_Acorn> (22:39:07) <Born_Acorn> End of. 21:41:21 <Born_Acorn> (22:39:12) <}EuMircea{> ? 21:41:26 <Born_Acorn> argh. 21:41:29 <Bjarni> dammit Sacro. You didn't tell me, so now I got to kick you 21:41:30 <Bjarni> >_< 21:41:31 <Born_Acorn> irc.quakenet.org 21:41:51 <Born_Acorn> All the cool people are there. 21:42:22 <Born_Acorn> Like peter 1138 and Truel ight, and sometimes Cele star and Dark vater! 21:42:34 <Born_Acorn> (spaces added to remove annoying highlights) 21:42:46 <peter1138> born acorn's there too, but he's not cool 21:42:54 <Born_Acorn> Yeah. 21:42:58 <Born_Acorn> He is a real jerk. 21:43:03 <peter1138> she's janet 21:43:17 <anboni> is there a maximum width of an openttd window? 21:43:26 <Bjarni> yes 21:43:30 <Prof_Frink> anboni: how wide's your screen? 21:43:32 <peter1138> 12" 21:43:32 <Bjarni> 2048 or something like that 21:43:38 <Bjarni> pixels, that is 21:44:14 <anboni> my screen is 1280, but i was trying to wrap openttd around the four sides of my desktop cube.. then it suddenly started giving me just black :) 21:44:18 <XeryusTC> quakenet is not for cool people, quakenet is for nerds, cool people go to real life 21:44:44 <peter1138> anboni: there's a single define you can change, if you really need to ;) 21:44:45 <Bjarni> lol, [23:41] <Born_Acorn> irc.quakenet.org <-- I clicked on that link and IRC opened the web browser... and the browser is still working on figuring out what kind of server it is talking to 21:44:53 <peter1138> but 21:44:59 <peter1138> night night 21:45:11 <Bjarni> night peter1138 21:45:20 <anboni> peter1138: thanks, i'll check it out:) 21:45:23 <XeryusTC> rofl 21:45:28 <XeryusTC> sites with frames are cool 21:45:43 <XeryusTC> i have 2 menu frames next to each other now :) 21:46:59 <XeryusTC> and now it starts screwing around :( 21:47:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B761CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:48:57 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD6D423.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 21:49:42 <Bjarni> [23:47] <Born_Acorn> http://magicalmonkeytour.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/patchman.jpg.w300h400.jpg 21:49:43 <Bjarni> [23:47] <Born_Acorn> patchman! 21:49:43 <Bjarni> [23:47] <Born_Acorn> wow! 21:49:43 <Bjarni> [23:47] <Born_Acorn> He is just like I imagined! 21:50:51 <SpComb> 00:48:24 <+Born_Acorn> http://www.witchhunter.net/images/figurenmacher/werner_klocke/Bjarni-fs-02.jpg 21:50:51 <SpComb> 00:48:26 <+Born_Acorn> wow! 21:50:51 <SpComb> 00:48:33 <+Born_Acorn> Its Bjarni! 21:51:12 <Bjarni> dammit, now he said the same thing here 21:51:24 <Bjarni> haha 21:51:39 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn left to avoid being kicked for that one :DDDD 21:51:40 <XeryusTC> is that suppose to be funny or something? 21:52:03 <Bjarni> it's telling how Born_Acorn is 21:52:14 <Bjarni> and the mental level of #tycoon 21:52:20 <XeryusTC> that is not an answer to my question :P 21:53:20 <Bjarni> it's Born_Acorn 21:53:27 <Bjarni> what do you expect? 21:53:34 * XeryusTC goes into dos mode 21:53:39 <SpComb> nuts 21:53:46 <XeryusTC> is that suppose to be funny or something? (Y/N) 21:54:16 <SpComb> D 21:54:17 <Bjarni> control-alt-delete 21:54:28 <Bjarni> stupid DOS :p 21:54:37 <Bjarni> asking weird questions 21:55:14 <XeryusTC> is that suppose to be funny or something? (Y/N) 21:55:32 <XeryusTC> or i'll ask it in windows mode 21:55:33 <glx> Bjarni: press reset button is more efficient than ctrl-alt-del with dos :) 21:55:38 <Bjarni> I think XeryusTC needs a reinstall 21:55:47 <Bjarni> it started to boot in a weird way 21:55:48 <XeryusTC> is that suppose to be funny or something? [retry] [ignore] [abort] :P 21:55:53 <Bjarni> typical MS OS 21:56:21 <XeryusTC> omfg, its almost midnight already 21:56:39 <Bjarni> glx: how should I know. I went from Amiga 500 to MacOS 7.1 21:56:50 <Bjarni> I never used DOS much 21:56:57 <Bjarni> never as a primary OS 21:57:16 <glx> I use it for some old games 21:57:19 <Bjarni> which gave some problems regarding TT(D) :( 21:57:53 <Bjarni> now I use DosBox and that's actually more stable than windows of that era 21:58:23 <glx> dosbox is not a friend of my CPU 21:58:29 <Bjarni> heh 21:58:42 <Bjarni> I find it a bit hard to config at times 22:01:36 <glx> I'm sure it's easier to config dosbox than to setup sound in dos 22:02:15 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498F3D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:05:18 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-184-162.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 22:06:11 <Bjarni> I did try it in real DOS as well 22:06:15 <Bjarni> I know what you mean 22:10:43 <XeryusTC> wow, my timing is perfectly, i put off my headphone to listen to the radio and they start playing Queen - It's Some Kind Of Magic :D 22:11:11 <XeryusTC> -ly 22:12:35 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:18:23 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@84.67.197.200] has joined #openttd 22:18:53 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498EF80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:21:05 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-162-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:23:15 <Bjarni> the issue with setup of DosBox is the speed setup. You have to manually adjust it according to your CPU and the game in question 22:23:24 <Bjarni> sometimes it's really tricky to get to work right 22:23:48 <glx> yeah some games assume you have a 66Mhz 22:24:43 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498F3D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 22:26:48 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-6352.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:27:58 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:28:29 <Bjarni> and some games assumes a different CPU type 22:28:58 <XeryusTC> http://www.qdb.us/34250 :D 22:29:08 <Bjarni> and some games don't care as long as you give them enough CPU time, they will use the sleep command to stay at the correct speed 22:29:59 <Bjarni> well, in OTTD, it IS a plane station 22:30:07 <Bjarni> he played too much OTTD 22:30:18 <Bjarni> that even got on qdb.us 22:30:24 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallazzzw 22:30:26 <Bjarni> too much OpenTTD syndrome 22:31:10 * XeryusTC starts a clinic to solve those kinds of problems 22:31:18 <XeryusTC> 30.000 euro for one session >:) 22:31:44 <XeryusTC> 150k for 2 weeks there :P 22:32:27 <Bjarni> great, then you need to keep up with the changes in OpenTTD. We can give you those info for 5.000 euro/day 22:33:01 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176101072.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 22:33:14 <XeryusTC> or i'll just stay here so i can see the svn logs ;) 22:33:37 <Bjarni> now those prices are obscene.... you can rent real life trains for prices like that 22:35:12 <XeryusTC> the family of ottd addicts dont know that ;) 22:36:08 <glx> http://www.qdb.us/60275 <-- about which project? 22:36:35 <XeryusTC> some get a life project joke :P 22:36:39 <Bjarni> his project to get a life 22:37:15 <XeryusTC> it has been stopped 22:37:24 <XeryusTC> i hate blogs and i dont kept up with it 22:37:29 <Bjarni> if you wants your own private train, then you should have bought it when the railroads switched from steam to electric/diesel 22:37:46 <Bjarni> some of them more or less gave their steam locomotives away 22:38:03 <glx> or destroyed them :( 22:38:09 <Bjarni> <glx> http://www.qdb.us/60275 <-- about which project? 22:38:10 <Bjarni> [00:36] <Bjarni> his project to get a life 22:38:10 <Bjarni> [00:37] <XeryusTC> it has been stopped 22:38:17 <XeryusTC> or just put it on a side track 22:38:29 <XeryusTC> so someone buys it now for 10million :P 22:40:22 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:40:29 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:32 <Bjarni> I once heard about a (ok, crappy and maybe even unable to drive) switching steam engine, that was sold for.. well converted to modern currency, I guess around 1000 euro. The contract stated that the trade was void if the engine ever was used as a commercial engine or resold or crapped or anything like that 22:40:41 <Bjarni> now that is the time to get your own private train 22:41:12 <XeryusTC> rofl 22:41:17 <XeryusTC> rails were run by stoners in those days :P 22:41:30 <Bjarni> yeah 22:42:31 <Bjarni> btw those "if ever resold, sell back to the original owner for the original price" contracts are still valid, but what would a modern railroad use a weak and worn out steam switcher to today? 22:42:38 <Bjarni> they might get it ;) 22:43:16 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 22:43:42 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:43:46 <Bjarni> too bad they sell their worn out rolling stock at higher prices today 22:44:11 <Bjarni> I do know a place where a worn out DMU stands today because it was sold to a private person 22:44:23 <Bjarni> but it will never drive again 22:44:36 <Bjarni> way too worn out and now it even lost track connection 22:46:49 <XeryusTC> aw :( 22:47:28 <Bjarni> it was either that or scrapped 22:47:31 <XeryusTC> maybe the person could be convinsed to put some money in restoring it 22:47:39 <Bjarni> he did 22:47:52 <Bjarni> but not into a functional state 22:48:08 <Bjarni> only into a ... what to call it.... 22:48:17 <Bjarni> now it's kind of part of his model train shop 22:49:17 <Bjarni> he casts his own HO trains of Danish models and sells them with different stuff on the wheels and different engines, so they fit different track systems and both DC and AC 22:49:28 <Bjarni> so it's a very special shop 22:49:37 <Bjarni> I wonder if I should go there 22:50:32 <Bjarni> <patchbot> SVN commit: r361 by lakie <--- 361 o_O 22:51:06 <XeryusTC> heh 22:51:19 <XeryusTC> my own game is only at r210ish :P 22:51:27 <XeryusTC> svn is only running for a few weeks though ;) 22:52:27 <XeryusTC> im off to bed 22:52:31 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|slaap 22:52:33 <Bjarni> well, we are 4661 revisions ahead of the patch 22:52:34 *** Xeryus|slaap is now known as Xeryus|sleep 22:52:42 <Bjarni> let's try to make that 5000 22:52:48 <Xeryus|sleep> heh 22:52:53 <Xeryus|sleep> you could use our strategy 22:53:00 <Bjarni> which is ? 22:53:06 <Xeryus|sleep> things like "forgot to add some files in my latest commit" 22:53:23 <Xeryus|sleep> or adding a feature in about 3 revisions 22:53:36 <Bjarni> oh, I did that once 22:54:00 <Bjarni> I think I used 4 commits or something like that to change native EOL and stuff like that 22:54:30 <Bjarni> I was asked to do so, but I had never done that before 22:55:14 <Bjarni> and then was the time when I accidentally added a : too many and it broke on windows only, so I didn't notice 22:55:17 <Xeryus|sleep> it took me 5 commits to make a server report to the masterserver successfully 22:55:55 <Bjarni> wait a minute 22:55:56 * Xeryus|sleep <-- now 22:56:01 <Bjarni> what SVN server do you commit to? 22:56:19 <Xeryus|sleep> http://tros.xepo.nl/subversion 22:56:27 <Xeryus|sleep> full of bugs though :P 22:56:31 <Xeryus|sleep> mostly in my commits :P 22:56:51 <Xeryus|sleep> we'll resume this conversation tomorow ok? 22:56:56 <Bjarni> ok 22:56:57 <Xeryus|sleep> i really must get some sleep 22:57:03 <Bjarni> then again maybe not 22:57:06 * Bjarni shoots Xeryus|sleep 22:57:11 <Bjarni> rest in peace 22:57:36 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@84.67.197.200] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:00:12 *** ems [n=ems@unaffiliated/ems] has joined #openttd 23:00:15 <ems> hi 23:00:29 <ems> is there a quick way of clearing a crashed train? 23:00:35 <SimonRC> no 23:01:26 <ems> how long till they get removed? 23:02:10 <[Shaman]> A while 23:02:39 <ems> how many months? 23:02:54 <[Shaman]> 'a while' 23:03:11 <[Shaman]> it'd depend on the month 23:03:14 <[Shaman]> so just stick to a while 23:03:43 <glx> anyway it's better to prevent crashing trains 23:13:46 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 23:16:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> you can have great crashing fun with using the PBS patch ;) 23:17:34 <glx> that's why I don't use it :) 23:18:16 <KUDr> now somebody can take yapf and make new pbs 23:18:31 *** ems [n=ems@unaffiliated/ems] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 23:19:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> "somebody" ;) 23:19:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> iirc, you were the one volunteering ;) 23:20:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> and because you didn't get anywhere, you created yapf 23:20:42 <KUDr> yes, but now i am bit tired 23:20:53 <KUDr> and next few weeks very busy 23:21:12 <KUDr> we have big visit at work (US boss) 23:23:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> celestar wanted to look into the new signalling idea, right? 23:24:12 <KUDr> yes, it is the next big task 23:24:15 <Bjarni> now that you got a visit from the big guy, you want to create the illusion that you actually do stuff at work? 23:24:42 <KUDr> 1) we have lot of meetings 23:24:58 <KUDr> 2) he is very often looking at my monitor 23:25:12 <Bjarni> 1: inefficient 23:25:18 <KUDr> so it is not easy to do something reasonable (like ottd) 23:25:22 <Bjarni> 2: stop having porn on it 23:25:34 <KUDr> porn? 23:25:39 <KUDr> i am too old for that 23:26:01 <KUDr> inefficient - yes, but boss likes them 23:26:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> 2) show hime some fancy seti@home screensaver ;) 23:26:12 <KUDr> hehe 23:26:32 <Bjarni> well, some people newer outgrow porn watching 23:26:37 <Bjarni> like bosses 23:26:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> and give him some technobabble about whatever you are supposed to work with, explaining the screensaver 23:26:55 <KUDr> when looking at ottd sources, he asked me: "what signal? and on what track?" 23:29:41 <KUDr> ok guys, good night 23:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> right back at ya 23:38:46 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:39:52 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 23:43:32 * Sacro sighs 23:46:36 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-162-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:51:58 * SimonRC wonders why KUDr was working on OTTD at work. 23:56:07 <Bjarni> don't torture yourself 23:56:15 <Bjarni> some things aren't meant to be understood 23:59:53 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-162-37.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd