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00:04:38 <MYOB> Sacro you can borrow mine for the weekend 00:04:49 <MYOB> I'm installing a new dish and motor and don't want her to see it 00:07:09 <Sacro> MYOB: ah right, do you deliver? 00:07:24 <Sacro> hmm, .gov.ie tells me irish 00:07:27 <MYOB> collect and return only 00:07:31 <Sacro> and government :| 00:07:50 <Sacro> i dont have a car :( 00:08:01 <MYOB> whats wrong with government? 00:08:38 <Sacro> lets just say i dont like ours 00:08:58 <MYOB> heh 00:09:05 <MYOB> contract worker, not a politico 00:09:30 <Sacro> oh, aside from the amusement i get from doing I'm feeling lucky in google with "fuckwit" 00:10:12 <MYOB> whatever happened to "dismal failure" being Blair? 00:10:22 <Sacro> dunno 00:10:33 <Sacro> i actually met john prescott once 00:10:40 <MYOB> wifebeater used to be Stella Artois until they removed a number of their pages from the index... 00:10:49 <Sacro> lol 00:10:53 <Sacro> i remember that one 00:14:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i only remember "evil empire" 00:15:02 <Eddi|zuHause> (being microsoft ;)) 00:16:33 <Sacro> lol 00:16:51 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498D01E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 00:17:28 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D01E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:20:40 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46ada.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:35:29 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD6D423.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 00:45:46 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-200-241.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 01:18:50 *** Borgz [n=cipri@a47034.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:22:52 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 01:32:13 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:46:22 *** Ha11o [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has quit [] 01:56:29 *** MYOB [n=vision@h1.vpn.gov.ie] has quit ["Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!"] 01:59:15 <Sacro> anyone here? 02:05:05 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-247-200.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:40:23 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 03:01:01 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 03:19:28 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 03:52:16 *** Smoky555 [i=f6eromag@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has joined #openttd 03:59:20 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 04:07:57 <Smoky555> morning 04:12:28 <Smoky555> what is the maximum number of passangers in one station? 4095?? 04:34:50 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has joined #openttd 04:38:22 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:07:08 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 05:08:04 *** roboschool [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:09:49 *** roboschool is now known as roboman 05:09:52 <roboman> hello 05:24:38 *** roboman is now known as roboaoe2 05:35:41 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 05:37:33 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:00:28 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:01:57 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:03:13 *** Spoco [i=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 06:26:42 *** ShadowJK_ [i=jk@208.53.150.226] has joined #openttd 06:29:48 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 06:30:11 *** ShadowJK [n=jk@208.53.150.226] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:39:45 *** argonel [i=argonel@konversation/developer/argonel] has quit ["~"] 06:40:09 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:44:18 <peter1138> KUDr: big bug 06:46:45 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 06:56:28 <Vornicus> Frankly if you manage to get 4,095 passengers waiting at one station, you've got bigger problems than the maximum number of passengers 06:57:10 <peter1138> KUDr: ping 06:57:43 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:58:43 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.1.3] has joined #openttd 06:59:20 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 07:17:50 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:17:59 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:22:19 *** HEXerium [i=famvader@xs2.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:22:44 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:23:23 <Celestar> morning 07:23:26 <Celestar> peter1138: what big bug? 07:24:28 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has joined #openTTD 07:32:04 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/rvbug.png 07:32:22 <peter1138> (caused by adjusting tiletrackstatus for roadstops/depots) 07:32:28 <Celestar> peter1138: suboptimal 07:33:09 <peter1138> indeed 07:34:01 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:35:36 <KUDr> peter1138: pong 07:36:19 <Celestar> KUDr: ping 07:36:30 <KUDr> Celestar: pong 07:37:37 <Celestar> KUDr: could you please merge 5066 and 5067 into bridges? I get conflicts and dunno if I can solve them properly 07:38:07 <KUDr> from work, ok? 07:38:27 <CIA-3> celestar * r5068 /branch/bridge/ (10 files in 2 dirs): [bridge] Sync with trunk up to 5065 07:38:36 <Celestar> KUDr: k k no hurry 07:38:48 <Celestar> I just wanna test your new feature 07:41:08 * peter1138 has a sekrit new feature 07:41:30 <Celestar> peter1138: ? :O 07:41:49 <peter1138> sekrit! 07:44:35 <KUDr> peter1138: that roadstop? I'll fix it 07:44:39 <peter1138> please :) 07:44:48 <KUDr> i know, my mistake 07:44:58 <peter1138> it's bad enough that red can go into green's stops 07:45:03 <peter1138> but stealing the passengers too? :) 07:45:05 <peter1138> hehe 07:45:15 <KUDr> yes 07:45:32 <peter1138> same applies to depots, i guess. wouldn't surprise me if enemy vehicles can get serviced 07:45:41 <KUDr> yes 07:45:45 <KUDr> it can 07:47:30 *** roboaoe2 is now known as roboman 07:53:22 <Celestar> cd back 07:53:32 <Celestar> lol 07:53:32 <Celestar> cd 08:02:29 *** Alltaken [n=chatzill@blender/artist/allTaken] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 08:05:47 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 08:09:31 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:09:48 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:10:25 *** Mizipzor [n=mizipzor@c-4d8571d5.01-15-73746f6.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:10:47 <Darkvater> shit, my pc doesn't work...network troubles 08:11:02 <Darkvater> can't reach it :s 08:12:53 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:13:27 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.66.198.134] has joined #openttd 08:13:36 <peter1138> back 08:13:59 <peter1138> Darkvater: so you've got time to look at that minor patch? 08:16:35 <Celestar> Darkvater: you got about 5 minutes? 08:21:38 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit ["My BNC will keep you warm, vist #teamlag, #hexus.cs"] 08:22:34 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 08:23:52 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:24:22 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:25:51 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:27:24 <Celestar> doesn't really seem so, does it 08:29:05 <peter1138> no :( 08:29:37 <peter1138> shall i commit my waypoint/reverse fix? 08:30:04 <Celestar> peter1138: gimme link 08:30:34 <peter1138> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/184 08:31:17 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:33:17 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 08:34:43 <Celestar> peter1138: looks sensible to me 08:39:17 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:41:18 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:42:37 * peter1138 slaps the AI code 08:45:06 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Client Quit] 08:46:53 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/aiplaneheli.diff <-- is my logic right there? 08:47:32 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:47:58 <Darkvater> sorry guys, got some real work to do :( 08:48:11 <Darkvater> as opposed to some others (*kuch* peter1138 ^^) 08:48:16 <Darkvater> damn 'd love to have your job 08:48:44 <Celestar> I have a job 08:48:51 <peter1138> oh, i do have real work to do 08:49:00 <Celestar> but I have 2 TFTs one for ottd and one for work :P 08:49:05 <peter1138> :D 08:49:05 <Celestar> currently I'm having a problem with samba 08:49:23 <peter1138> i guess i better get back to validating track2 data 08:49:26 <Darkvater> peter1138: yes, that is why you are most productive during the day ;p 08:50:09 <peter1138> i can quit if you want... 08:50:16 <peter1138> (irc that is, not my job) 08:50:52 <Darkvater> lemme think about that 08:51:04 <Darkvater> I don't think you dare 08:51:08 <Darkvater> you are too addicted :) 08:51:36 <peter1138> feh! 08:51:41 <peter1138> i can quit anytime i want to 08:51:46 <peter1138> i just... don't want to ;p 08:51:53 <Darkvater> ;) 08:53:07 <Darkvater> ok so 08:53:07 <Celestar> Darkvater: opinion: 1) solve bridge visual problems, merge then, 2) merge, solve visual problems later. 08:53:11 <Darkvater> where is that small diff? 08:53:25 <peter1138> attached to http://bugs.openttd.org/task/184 08:53:31 <Darkvater> Celestar: who is (going to) solve(/ing) visual problems? 08:53:38 <Darkvater> peter1138: waypoint reversal? 08:53:58 <Celestar> Darkvater: I'm working on it, but I need other people's help as well. 08:54:13 <peter1138> yeah 08:54:52 <peter1138> Celestar: i say the visual problems are independent of the bridge branch 08:55:03 <Darkvater> what is the invalidatevehicleorder() for? 08:55:04 <peter1138> i.e. they have an impact whether we merge or not 08:55:07 <Celestar> I already had your opinion :) 08:55:12 <peter1138> oh :) 08:55:16 <Darkvater> wasn't that mine as well? 08:55:21 <Celestar> Darkvater's the last one 08:55:24 <Celestar> Darkvater: official now :) 08:55:25 <Darkvater> *don't* make me dig up the logs 08:55:35 <Celestar> Darkvater: if you say merge, bridges will be merged today. 08:55:36 <peter1138> Darkvater: to update the vehicle's order list window, if it's open 08:55:38 <peter1138> i just moved it, heh 08:57:27 <Darkvater> is there any other order-type than the three others in the switch? 08:57:52 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:58:04 <Celestar> yes Darkvater 08:58:16 <Celestar> OT_NOTHING, OT_LOADING, OT_LEAVESTATION, OT_DUMMY 08:58:18 <Darkvater> Celestar: so officially: visual problems already exist without the bridge branch (eg pillars) so it doesn't matter 08:58:23 <Darkvater> ah 08:58:43 *** eQualizer [n=lauri@dyn12-72.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:59:18 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 08:59:59 <Celestar> Darkvater: ok but be warned that there are more more more problems with the arbitrary stuff, but I'll try fixing them as good as I can :) 09:01:19 <Darkvater> as long as they get fixxed :) 09:01:54 <Darkvater> peter1138: logically it looks fine, perhas put default: on one line, but that's just style. Can't test it but if you say so I believe 09:02:08 <Darkvater> ok, 0.4.8RC1 this weekend now definitely. Have some time :) 09:03:01 <Celestar> great 09:03:38 <peter1138> \o/ 09:03:48 *** peter1138 is now known as peter1138|actual 09:03:52 <peter1138|actual> bah 09:04:14 *** peter1138|actual is now known as peter1138nothere 09:04:25 <peter1138nothere> (i can quit, honest) 09:04:42 <Darkvater> anyone seen peter around? 09:05:00 <Darkvater> i've been looking for that bugger for some time now and he seems to have disappeared 09:06:01 *** ohyeah [n=ohyeah@ns.spirit.ee] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:06:01 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:06:24 <Darkvater> see they both can quit ;p 09:07:41 <Prof_Frink> Darkvater: They didn't quit, peer got to them 09:08:22 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:08:43 <Darkvater> they still quit 09:08:48 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:09:51 <Prof_Frink> Maybe we should tell peer to get peter1138 09:11:30 *** Marce_ [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:41 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:12:58 <Celestar> hm 09:13:02 <Celestar> KUDr needs to help me syncing 09:13:52 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 09:14:17 *** peter1138nothere [n=peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit ["couldn't do it, argh"] 09:16:00 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.66.198.134] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:24:13 *** Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:24:50 <Celestar> compiling with -j32 is fun :) 09:26:07 *** tank_ [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:27:53 <Celestar> guys I have a request :) 09:29:28 <Celestar> please connect to 129.187.69.7 with the bridge branch 09:31:33 <Celestar> damnit 09:31:35 <Celestar> desync 09:31:41 <Celestar> right when I start the game 09:32:08 <Scia> http://ttd.tycoonez.com/?id=135&lang=en 09:32:29 <Scia> "Train Tycoon have full license from Chrise Sawyer, famous game designer,..." 09:32:56 *** Marce_ [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:32:56 *** tank [i=tank@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:34:12 <Celestar> desync :S 09:35:14 <Celestar> where are the Big Endian people when you need them ? 09:37:05 <Celestar> we have an endianess issue somewhere ... 09:38:10 <Celestar> BIG time 09:38:20 * Vornicus knows just enough about endianness to get it wrong half the time. 09:38:35 <Vornicus> ...which, with endianness, is the whole problem. 09:40:13 <Celestar> ok 09:40:20 <Celestar> endianess problem in bridge 09:40:22 <Celestar> testing trunk 09:41:43 <Celestar> ok 09:41:47 * Celestar puts bridge merge on a halt 09:42:05 * KUDr_wrk works on it 09:42:49 <Celestar> KUDr: bridge has an endianess problem 09:42:55 <KUDr_wrk> hmm 09:43:26 <Celestar> I can't play networkically 09:43:33 <Celestar> at least not from LE to BE or vv 09:43:41 <KUDr_wrk> we must find it 09:43:49 <KUDr_wrk> it will be something simple 09:43:55 <KUDr_wrk> but hard to find 09:44:35 <Celestar> KUDr: something to do with m2? 09:44:54 <KUDr_wrk> probably not i guess 09:44:59 <Celestar> lets see 09:45:01 <KUDr_wrk> but maybe 09:46:09 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:46:18 <Celestar> hm not sure 09:47:09 <Celestar> KUDr: the change in landscape.c 09:47:17 <Celestar> in 4427 09:47:44 <KUDr_wrk> later. I got few minutes only so i need to help you with that sync 09:47:47 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Client Quit] 09:47:54 <Celestar> ok 09:47:59 * Celestar goes getting some food 09:48:04 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:55:23 <Celestar> I really see no reason why we should desync 09:56:32 * Fujitsu desyncs Celestar. 09:56:38 <Celestar> pfft 09:57:24 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5069 /branch/bridge/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [bridge] Sync with trunk up to 5068 09:57:28 <KUDr_wrk> try it 09:58:55 <Celestar> ok 10:00:32 *** HEXerium [i=famvader@xs2.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 10:00:52 <KUDr_wrk> and sorry for doing it so late - i am fully occupied by boss 10:01:23 <KUDr_wrk> and...you know...he can rise my salary or fire me.... 10:01:41 <Celestar> hehe 10:01:56 <Celestar> seems to work :o 10:02:03 <Celestar> reason found 10:02:05 <KUDr_wrk> fighting for my developers now - for rising their salaries 10:02:09 * Celestar bangs head on the desk 10:02:18 <Celestar> I'm sooooo stupid 10:02:28 <KUDr_wrk> what was it? 10:02:37 <Celestar> newgrf deviations 10:02:58 <KUDr_wrk> you are deviant? :) 10:02:59 * Fujitsu repeatedly slams the desk into Celestar's head. 10:03:04 <Celestar> can you try to connect to 129.187.69.7 ? 10:03:15 <KUDr_wrk> with bridges? 10:04:06 <Celestar> yes 10:04:09 <Celestar> Darkvater: ping 10:04:14 <KUDr_wrk> compiling 10:05:19 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 10:05:22 <KUDr_wrk> aha, revision conflict (i must patch the rev. string) 10:05:43 <Celestar> :) 10:06:05 <Celestar> we need threaded saving on solaris methinks 10:07:18 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-48-25.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:07:24 <KUDr_wrk> i am there 10:07:28 <KUDr_wrk> yes 10:07:36 <Celestar> you company still exists :) 10:07:57 <KUDr_wrk> hehe 10:08:29 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:08:43 <KUDr_wrk> sync! 10:08:51 <Celestar> huh? 10:09:06 <Celestar> what did you try to do? 10:09:09 <Darkvater> pong 10:09:19 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar: nothing 10:09:22 <Celestar> Darkvater: do we support threaded saving on Sparc? 10:09:32 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: problems with newgrfs? ;) 10:09:37 <Darkvater> I don't have a sparc so I wouldn't know 10:09:40 <KUDr_wrk> dunno 10:09:49 <Celestar> Darkvater: where would I look? 10:09:49 <KUDr_wrk> i have them the same as last time 10:09:53 <Fujitsu> Celestar, you're the SPARC. 10:10:11 <Darkvater> Celestar: just turn up debug level and save. it'll say if it can't save threadedly 10:10:40 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 10:10:40 *** SBTXXX [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:10:45 <Celestar> Darkvater: misc that is? 10:11:00 <Darkvater> yes 10:11:10 <Darkvater> the actual code is somewhere in saveload.c at the bottom 10:17:01 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 10:17:25 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:19:32 <Celestar> Darkvater: dbg: [Sl] Cannot create savegame thread, reverting to single-threaded mode... 10:19:36 <Celestar> pity 10:20:54 <Darkvater> guess that's a no ;) 10:21:15 <Celestar> why doesn't that work :S 10:25:08 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: were you able to rejoin? 10:25:19 <Celestar> can I disable autosave in the console? 10:26:31 <Darkvater> hmm, don' think 10:26:57 <Celestar> but these little sparc cores work rather well 10:27:08 <Celestar> I can run 32 dediservers now \o( 10:28:10 <hylje> :o 10:28:31 <hylje> does ottd support virtual hosts (like http Host: header) 10:29:49 <Celestar> just use different ports 10:30:41 <hylje> less useful unless the server list supports that 10:31:17 <hylje> its more useful to "hey, lets meet at server 34 and play there" instead of "lets play on server 1 port 1337" 10:31:30 <Celestar> er KUDr_wrk ... 10:42:13 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-48-25.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 10:42:43 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.166.154] has quit [No route to host] 10:43:18 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:45:18 <KUDr_wrk> [12:27:07] <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: were you able to rejoin? <-- didn't try (busy again) 10:47:46 <Celestar> ok 10:51:20 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: what do I have to do to tell yapf that too-short a platform is end-of-line? 10:51:30 <Celestar> or at least is basically never used? 10:51:48 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 10:51:55 <Celestar> because I really really like that feature 10:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> well... end of line might be a bad idea, if all platforms are too short 10:54:02 <Celestar> yeah true 10:54:07 *** flerg [n=peter@svn.bucks.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:10 <Celestar> but somehow I have trains that use too short platforms 10:54:23 <Celestar> I desync often .. 10:55:09 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i am sure KUDr has some constants where you can adjust the penalty 10:55:27 <KUDr_wrk> Eddi|zuHause: .cfg 10:55:34 <Celestar> yeah I noticed 10:55:42 <Celestar> the problem was the end-of-line with two way signals 10:56:01 <flerg> is that fixed yet? it's... irritating 10:56:11 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah... i never thought that was a good idea ;) 10:56:35 <Celestar> well I don'T use two way signals anyway 10:57:07 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: the new yapf options, are they synced? 10:57:42 <KUDr_wrk> they should be but maybe i am wrong 10:58:01 <Celestar> dunno about bridge :) 10:58:03 <Celestar> will check later 10:58:10 <KUDr_wrk> you should check it if you understand how it works 10:58:34 <Celestar> will later :) 10:58:54 <Celestar> I'm slowly preparing a merge ... 11:02:46 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: nah I leave that to you for later, k? 11:03:55 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: the penalty is per tile, per vehicle or flatrate? 11:04:11 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 11:05:38 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:14:54 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: problem .. 11:17:47 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/platprob.sav <= problem displayed here. (bridge branch) 11:17:48 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:18:21 <Celestar> Darkvater: what about merging those 4 airports btw? 11:19:21 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 11:30:31 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@84.183.121.183] has joined #openttd 11:38:45 <Darkvater> Celestar: did not look at rickh's diff. either I can assume everything has done well or 2. wait andlook over it during the weekend 11:39:05 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B815B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:40:05 <Celestar> Darkvater: I'll wait 11:40:11 <Celestar> Darkvater: will rather merge bridge 11:45:29 <Darkvater> k 11:46:27 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B81065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:47:21 * Celestar wishes Tron created that thing properly 11:48:19 <flerg> where is tron these days? 11:49:22 <Celestar> dunno 11:50:04 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:50:12 <Celestar> attempting a merge 11:50:39 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> svn st | grep ^C | wc -l 11:50:39 <Celestar> 15 11:50:44 <Celestar> friggen crap 11:50:59 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77725.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:56:42 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> svn st | grep ^C | wc -l 11:56:43 <Celestar> 8 11:59:26 *** AmiX2 [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 11:59:29 <Celestar> guys 11:59:32 <Celestar> I need help with merging 11:59:40 <AmiX2> hey :) 11:59:43 <AmiX2> nice game 11:59:46 <AmiX2> :) 11:59:50 <Celestar> thanks AmiX2 :) 12:00:09 <AmiX2> playing it on morphos all the time :) 12:00:21 <Celestar> oh :) 12:00:29 <Celestar> what version? 12:00:29 <AmiX2> yea 12:00:38 <AmiX2> 0.4.7 ? 12:01:08 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: what's the YAPF status or MorphOS? 12:01:22 <TheMask96> lol :) 12:01:52 <Celestar> ? 12:04:11 <AmiX2> Celestar: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=111717&release_id=404880 12:04:13 <TheMask96> someone talks about MorphOS, and you have a new task for KUDr ;) 12:04:18 <AmiX2> thats the version 12:04:36 <AmiX2> 0.4.7 12:04:51 <Celestar> AmiX2: yeah, I was just wondering whether the latest stuff builds on Morhos 12:04:54 <Celestar> Morphos 12:05:28 <AmiX2> oki 12:05:31 <AmiX2> whats that? 12:05:41 <Celestar> do you have a subversion client ? 12:05:54 <AmiX2> hmm 12:05:58 <AmiX2> can check 12:08:22 <flerg> Celestar: we have a morphos nightly 12:08:33 <Celestar> flerg: with YAPF and everything? 12:08:44 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:08:49 <flerg> must be, it's not optional 12:10:44 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:10:51 <Celestar> good news 12:10:51 <AmiX2> morphos version is just the best version ;p sorry, but osx version is buggy and windows version aint that nice :=) maybe i love morphos to much or something, but hehe.. its something special :) 12:11:02 <Celestar> it SHOULD be the same 12:11:08 <Celestar> I mean its the same source code :P 12:11:15 <Celestar> whats buggy about OSx? 12:13:56 <AmiX2> hmm 12:14:01 <AmiX2> every game on osx 12:14:10 <AmiX2> is buggy in fullscreen mode 12:14:55 <AmiX2> once when i changed the screenmode to full, the screen became black.. and no way back to osx 12:14:58 <AmiX2> reboot 12:15:37 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca295.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:15:40 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 12:16:10 <flerg> speaking of buggy 12:16:49 <Bjarni> well, thank you for that greeting 12:16:52 <AmiX2> others when finding servers 12:16:58 <TheMask96> lol :) 12:17:11 <TheMask96> Bjarni, a.k.a. bug ;) 12:17:20 <AmiX2> Bjarni: welcome :) 12:17:59 <Celestar> AmiX2: Bjarni is the OS X maintainer ... 12:18:21 <Bjarni> and it appears that flerg think that I only code buggy stuff :( 12:18:33 <Bjarni> I like to think different 12:18:40 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 12:18:43 <AmiX2> Celestar: http://home.powertech.no/micbergs/grabb/openttdmos.png 12:18:53 <AmiX2> thats right? 12:18:58 <AmiX2> 0.4.7 ? 12:19:01 <AmiX2> :) 12:19:20 <Bjarni> ahh, MorphOS 12:19:36 <Celestar> AmiX2: yes but that's not latest :) 12:19:52 <AmiX2> oki 12:20:07 <AmiX2> I am waiting for trams and highways :D 12:20:17 <Bjarni> we all are 12:20:19 <AmiX2> only missing hehe 12:20:22 <Bjarni> that's why nothing happens to them 12:20:31 <Bjarni> all we do is waiting 12:20:36 <Bjarni> :P 12:20:38 <AmiX2> ;) 12:20:48 <Celestar> AmiX2: more good stuff is already in trunk :) 12:20:51 <Celestar> a new pathfinder for exxample 12:21:26 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Goodnight!"] 12:21:44 <Bjarni> actually what is going on here? 12:22:09 <hylje> no 12:22:19 <Bjarni> the channel is full of non-regular people and you talk about OSes, that aren't that commonly spoken about 12:22:25 <AmiX2> Celestar: pathfinder, whats that? 12:22:42 <AmiX2> hehe 12:22:56 <Celestar> Darkvater: ping 12:23:01 <AmiX2> MorphOS is PPC`s survival .. maybe ;) 12:23:14 <Bjarni> AmiX2: that's how vehicles figure out how to get from A to B 12:23:30 <Bjarni> like which track a train should use and so on 12:23:31 <AmiX2> ahh 12:23:49 <hylje> i think linux is very much ppc 12:23:55 <Darkvater> ponf 12:23:57 <AmiX2> yes 12:24:22 <Celestar> Darkvater: I've completed the merge ... 12:24:24 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> svn diff | wc -l 12:24:24 <Celestar> 3012 12:24:24 <AmiX2> but ppc as a desktop platform for end-users etc 12:24:28 <Celestar> anyone wanna read that? 12:24:35 <AmiX2> linux aint the choice for end-users etc 12:25:09 <Bjarni> Celestar: no, 3012 indicates that I will trust you ;) 12:25:11 <Celestar> I'm using linux mostly ... 12:25:19 * Prof_Frink sends AmiX2 a Dapper CD 12:25:21 <Celestar> Bjarni: ah ok (= 12:25:30 <Bjarni> I mean, you got a history of writing ok stuff 12:25:31 <Celestar> Prof_Frink: I'm using Dapper on one of my (test) servers 12:25:38 <Bjarni> and if not, we can fix it 12:26:42 <Bjarni> anyway, do anybody want to say anything to me? 12:26:58 <Bjarni> otherwise I will hide IRC and messages might go unnoticed for a while 12:27:17 <Bjarni> I mean, there might be a great delay before I read them 12:27:24 *** flerg is now known as peter1138 12:28:27 <Bjarni> flerg: there is a death penalty to impersonate other people in this channel 12:29:07 <Bjarni> hmm 12:29:15 <Celestar> peter1138: you feel like reading that diff? :P 12:29:23 <peter1138> nope 12:29:36 <Celestar> that means the only choice I have is to commit it, right 12:29:37 <Celestar> ? 12:29:44 <peter1138> can't i'm afraid 12:30:08 <Darkvater> hehe nice merge :) 12:30:35 <Celestar> tell me to go ahead, I'm frightened 12:30:53 <peter1138> remember 12:31:00 <peter1138> it can always be reverted ;) 12:31:07 <Bjarni> haha, for the past 2-3 minutes, somebody have been trying to start a motorcycle or something like that 12:31:07 <Celestar> lol 12:31:09 <peter1138> (by tron when no-one's looking) 12:31:14 <Celestar> point taken 12:31:28 <Bjarni> vrroom... (dead).. vroom.. (dead) 12:31:31 <Celestar> actually we WANT people to test it, right? 12:31:38 <peter1138> yes 12:31:42 <Celestar> hmmmz 12:31:43 <Bjarni> repeat that at an 1 try each 2nd secund 12:31:49 <Bjarni> I think that engine got a problem 12:31:53 <peter1138> Bjarni: autoreplace gui needs a rewrite 12:31:59 <Bjarni> why? 12:32:32 <peter1138> it's full of redundancy and needs a general duffing 12:32:33 <hylje> because it Fucking Sucks ? 12:32:39 <Bjarni> you want to sacrifice my first real GUI work? 12:32:48 <hylje> because it Fucking Sucks ? 12:33:04 <peter1138> e.g. things like selected_id[0] being tested against INVALID_ENGINE multiple times in the same context 12:33:05 <Celestar> peter1138: "duffing" 12:33:06 <hylje> first works are always to be improved 12:33:52 <Bjarni> well, it took me like a week to write since nobody helped me, so I had to figure everything out the hard way 12:33:55 <Celestar> I don't feel like reading that stuff either. 12:34:03 <Celestar> (the diff) 12:34:24 <Bjarni> Celestar: sounds like a commit where we hope for the best 12:34:29 <Bjarni> but I didn't say that 12:35:20 <peter1138> how many bytes? 12:35:29 <peter1138> (and how big was the initial (buggy) pbs commit?) 12:36:02 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> svn diff | wc 12:36:03 <Celestar> 3007 12410 95017 12:36:14 <Celestar> peter1138: questions? 12:37:59 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4563.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:39:18 *** Smoky555 [i=f6eromag@sagitta.internal.vlink.ru] has left #openttd [] 12:39:51 <Celestar> peter1138: I guess that'S a "no" 12:47:12 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-48-25.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 12:47:48 <roboman> hm 12:48:17 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B815B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:49:43 *** ohyeah [n=ohyeah@82.131.120.70] has joined #openttd 12:52:08 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit ["Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it"] 12:52:27 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 12:53:47 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:54:42 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 12:56:57 <Celestar> hm 12:56:59 <Celestar> I'll go for it 13:04:34 <Celestar> ok I think I gotta go for the weekend 13:05:29 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-48-25.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 13:05:44 <Celestar> CU peops 13:05:45 <Celestar> have fun 13:05:48 <CIA-3> celestar * r5070 /trunk/ (33 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) 13:05:48 <CIA-3> Merged the bridge branch 13:05:48 <CIA-3> -Feature: Bridges can now be placed above: 13:05:48 <CIA-3> Any railway track combination (excluding depots and waypoints) 13:05:48 <CIA-3> Any road combination (excluding depots) 13:05:48 <CIA-3> Clear tiles (duh), including fields 13:05:52 <CIA-3> Tunnel entrances 13:07:29 <Prof_Frink> Ooh, shiny 13:07:45 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 13:09:03 <Prof_Frink> I shall have to be Penguinated before 7 o'clock 13:09:14 <roboman> gnight 13:10:17 *** roboman is now known as robobed 13:13:21 <Celestar> hm .. 13:13:36 <Celestar> 8 minutes after commit and Tron didn't nuke the channel yet 13:13:52 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 13:14:08 <RichK67> hi all 13:14:30 <Celestar> hi RichK67 13:15:05 <RichK67> has DV said "yes" to NewAirports ?? :) 13:15:28 <Celestar> he said he'll commit it after he did a final review (= 13:15:36 <RichK67> woohoo :) 13:15:40 <Celestar> "we" just merged bridges 13:15:53 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5071 /trunk/train_cmd.c: - Fix (FS#184): "Erroneous train reversal on waypoints". When processing the next train order, do not even consider reversing the train if the last order was to a waypoint. 13:15:56 <RichK67> cool - what does it do ;) 13:16:06 <Celestar> RichK67: see revision 5060 13:16:08 <Celestar> 5070* 13:16:29 <peter1138> hmm, now, 5071 backport for 0.4.7 13:16:32 <KUDr_wrk> Celestar: congrats! (<CIA-3> Merged the bridge branch) 13:16:47 <RichK67> sorry - my machine is a bit busy to be able to run torty ... can you paste the comment here? 13:17:15 <peter1138> ah, straight apply :D 13:18:53 *** AmiX2 [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has quit ["6x Raisin-Noisettes Raisin-Nuts"] 13:19:04 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: thanks :) 13:19:51 <RichK67> so does it do bridges over diagonal track? 13:20:16 <Celestar> yes 13:20:38 <RichK67> cool - i think there will be some nice junctions made then... very compact :) 13:20:48 <Celestar> RichK67: yeah :) 13:21:38 <peter1138> when should one use size_t ? 13:21:43 <RichK67> and it should end the "place diagonal track to block" cheat 13:21:55 <Celestar> RichK67: the what 13:22:09 <Celestar> peter1138: basically always when using things like malloc .. 13:22:22 <RichK67> rather than buy land, you place a piece of diagonal track 13:22:34 <Celestar> yeah :S 13:22:54 <peter1138> Celestar: utf8 encoding returns the number of chars (bytes) that have been (or could be) used 13:23:04 <Celestar> hm 13:23:23 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5072 /branch/0.4/train_cmd.c: 13:23:23 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r5071): 13:23:23 <CIA-3> - Fix (FS#184): "Erroneous train reversal on waypoints". When processing the next train order, do not even consider reversing the train if the last order was to a waypoint. 13:23:46 <peter1138> hmm 13:23:50 <peter1138> strlen() returns size_t 13:23:56 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176126242.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:23:59 <peter1138> so i may as well, too 13:25:57 <Celestar> yes 13:36:52 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 13:38:57 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:40:46 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729D4.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:41:43 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:45:53 *** Spoco [i=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 13:47:02 <Darkvater> ~15:15 < Celestar> he said he'll commit it after he did a final review (= 13:47:09 <Darkvater> i ain't no said no thing like that 13:47:15 <Celestar> Darkvater: ok you'll review, I commit? :P 13:47:29 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5073 /branch/utf8/ (string.c string.h): [utf8] Change return type of utf-8 functions from int to size_t 13:47:33 <Darkvater> let richk commit :) 13:47:40 <Celestar> ph 13:47:45 <Celestar> good idea :) 13:49:29 <Celestar> peter1138: I'll use the bridge branch now for custombridgeheads and stuff? 13:49:30 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:49:56 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:50:05 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5074 /branch/utf8/ (string.c string.h): [utf8] Add function to determine the utf-8 encoded length of a unicode character 13:50:30 <peter1138> or make a new branch? 13:50:39 <peter1138> (not like it takes up server space) 13:50:42 <Celestar> well it still deals with bridges .. 13:50:47 <Celestar> so why not? 13:51:00 <peter1138> will it be easy to merge back? ;p 13:51:09 <Celestar> you think so? 13:51:30 <peter1138> i don't know... was a question 13:51:40 <peter1138> you had problems with the bridge branch already... 13:52:47 <Celestar> well the merge now was very simple 13:52:52 <Celestar> just had some trick to use 13:53:44 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5075 /branch/utf8/misc_gui.c: [utf8] Account for utf-8 character length when inserting a unicode character 13:55:23 <peter1138> how long can how revision string be, btw? 13:55:38 <peter1138> i'm wondering if we should include the branch 13:55:47 <Celestar> peter1138: I was suggesting that a long time ago 13:56:21 <Celestar> const char _openttd_revision[] = "r5069M" 13:56:24 <Celestar> not very limited :P 13:56:33 <peter1138> and is "svn info" localised? 13:57:17 <peter1138> the URL field contains what we want... 13:57:22 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> setenv LANG de_DE.UTF-8 13:57:22 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> svn info | head -1 13:57:22 <Celestar> Pfad: . 13:57:22 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> setenv LANG en_GB.UTF-8 13:57:22 <Celestar> vici@galadriel:[/home/vici/openttd/trunk]> svn info | head -1 13:57:24 <Celestar> Path: . 13:57:57 <Celestar> yes 13:57:58 <Celestar> it is 13:58:07 <Celestar> -trunk should not be included 14:00:01 <Celestar> Darkvater: what about tagging rc1 tonight? 14:02:01 <Darkvater> I'm not in tonight 14:02:26 <Darkvater> and there was something still amiss I think. Need to check the 0.4.8 thread 14:03:00 <peter1138> damn 14:03:16 <peter1138> autoreplace bug 14:03:24 <peter1138> i'll work on that tonight 14:03:32 <peter1138> (if the missus lets me) 14:04:00 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 14:04:44 <Celestar> what about that NTP problem? 14:05:09 <peter1138> you know my opinion on that :) 14:05:30 <Celestar> same as mine? 14:05:37 <Celestar> I'd say "won'T fix" 14:05:45 <peter1138> yeah 14:05:56 <peter1138> it's not even a user reported bug, is it? 14:06:00 <Celestar> ok I'm closing that bug report with references to "edge case" and "yapf" 14:06:21 * peter1138 looks at tortoisesvn's revision graph 14:06:26 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-227-48.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:06:30 <peter1138> not entirely sure what it's meant to mean 14:06:58 <Celestar> Flyspray + konqueror == trouble 14:07:54 <Celestar> peter1138: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/196 <= bus stop doesn't accept passengers afaik 14:08:28 <peter1138> ? 14:09:41 <Celestar> peter1138: I'm guessing the bus stop does not accept passengers 14:09:46 <peter1138> why wouldn't it? 14:09:53 <peter1138> it says "Transfer" 14:09:55 <peter1138> so 14:10:04 <peter1138> i'd guess they're using transfer for no reason 14:10:06 <Celestar> that's what the passengers are dumped onto the station . 14:10:11 <Celestar> or that .. 14:10:21 <Celestar> well I guess either "unload" or "transfer" is on 14:10:26 <peter1138> no 14:10:31 <peter1138> it *says* Transfer 14:10:49 <Celestar> hm 14:10:51 <Celestar> good point 14:10:56 <peter1138> therefore, he's using transfer, incorrectly. 14:11:07 <Celestar> bug in USER.EXE ? 14:11:14 <peter1138> it's probably dumping passengers and picking them up again 14:11:26 <peter1138> yeah 14:13:03 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/192 <= what about this guy? 14:13:52 <peter1138> USER.EXE again 14:14:06 <peter1138> which glx pointed out 14:14:29 <Celestar> close? 14:14:33 <Prof_Frink> pebkac! 14:14:36 <peter1138> hmm. however 14:14:42 <peter1138> the option "-i" isn't exactly clear 14:14:50 <peter1138> it says it forces to use the DOS palette 14:14:54 <Celestar> peter1138: -i is not needed 14:14:57 <peter1138> it should say "use DOS graphics" 14:15:01 <peter1138> oh? hmm. ignore me then 14:15:06 <Celestar> peter1138: -i is to FORCE it 14:15:10 <peter1138> k :) 14:15:19 <Celestar> if the loaded detects the dos files, it uses the palette automagically 14:15:23 <peter1138> close it :) 14:15:33 <Celestar> void CheckExternalFiles(void) <? see 14:15:38 <Celestar> gfxinit.c 14:15:40 <peter1138> Celestar: -i makes ottd look for the DOS files, so it's not just the palette it's forcing 14:16:53 * Celestar puts it onto "not a bug" 14:16:59 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:17:23 *** bebble [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 14:17:26 *** bebble [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:17:45 *** bebble [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 14:17:45 <Celestar> still 37 bug reports open 14:19:20 <Celestar> that's a lot 14:19:50 <Celestar> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/168 <= you wanted to do something about that 14:19:54 <Celestar> didn't you? 14:21:09 <peter1138> no i didn't 14:21:17 <peter1138> well, perhaps make it "not crash" 14:21:18 <Celestar> like .. close the report? 14:21:21 <peter1138> heh 14:21:23 <peter1138> maybe ;p 14:21:38 <peter1138> i should speak to patchman about it actually 14:21:44 <Celestar> possibly 14:21:49 <Celestar> you have it assinged now :P 14:21:59 <peter1138> bitch 14:22:05 <Celestar> heyho 14:23:15 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 14:23:37 <Belugas> hello 14:24:29 <Celestar> hi Belugas hows stuff? 14:25:18 <Belugas> Hard, quite hard :( 14:25:23 <Celestar> why? 14:25:26 <Belugas> Lot of real work 14:25:31 <peter1138> :-( 14:25:54 <Belugas> lack of sleep because of kid not wanting to sleep past 4:30h am :S 14:26:22 <Belugas> and then my Master has fled the sanctuary ;) 14:27:14 <Belugas> But newcargo is advancing little by little :) 14:28:17 <Celestar> Belugas: bridges are merged 14:28:52 <Belugas> I saw that :) 14:28:57 <Belugas> Youhou! 14:29:45 <Celestar> will be working on other bridge stuff next 14:29:49 <Belugas> Too bad Tron was not around to see it :( 14:31:27 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:32:17 <Belugas> How about you, minster SPARC? Ego is survingin ;) 14:32:25 <Belugas> surviving ... 14:32:45 <Celestar> Belugas: 14:32:46 <Celestar> root@niagara:[/root]# grep ncpu /proc/cpuinfo 14:32:46 <Celestar> ncpus probed : 32 14:32:46 <Celestar> ncpus active : 32 14:33:03 <Belugas> seems the answer is yes :D 14:33:42 <Celestar> running ubuntu 6.0.6 14:39:34 *** bebble [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:54:13 <peter1138> ping? 14:55:29 <Darkvater> lost along the way somewhere 14:55:56 <peter1138> :/ 14:56:05 <Darkvater> Close, in her fifth bee, said she was relieved when she 14:56:05 <Darkvater> realized she knew how to spell ursprache, a noun of German origin 14:56:05 <Darkvater> that means a reconstructed, hypothetical parent language. The 13- 14:56:05 <Darkvater> year-old from Spring Lake won ,000 in cash, ,000 in books, a 14:56:05 <Darkvater> ,500 savings bond and a ,000 college scholarship. Close, 14:56:15 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 14:56:18 <Darkvater> naaah...why don't I win .000 for this kinda crap? 14:57:23 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has joined #openttd 14:58:22 <Darkvater> The last female winner was Napur Lala in 1999, who spelled 14:58:22 <Darkvater> logorrhea -- excessive talkativeness, especially when incoherent 14:58:32 <Darkvater> does english have stupid words or what? 14:58:35 <TheMask96> i'm going to move to the US i think, could make a living out of that ;) 14:58:48 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5gVhXszrGY << 50 Cent VS Thomas the Tank Engine :D 15:01:31 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:02:51 <peter1138> only americans have spelling bees anyway 15:08:55 <Sacro> does anyone here find "LUL" (London Underground Line) offensive? 15:09:03 <TheMask96> hahaha 15:09:31 <TheMask96> it is dutch for 'dick' or 'penis' or whatever you call it ;) 15:09:41 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2FF9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:58 <TheMask96> whois Sacro 15:10:06 <Sacro> TheMask96: me 15:10:30 <TheMask96> sorry, missed a / ;) 15:10:43 <Sacro> i gathered that 15:10:43 <TheMask96> how do you know it could be offensive? ;) 15:10:54 <Sacro> tt-forums, but LUL is what its called 15:11:03 <Sacro> LUG is Linux User Grou 15:11:04 <Sacro> p 15:11:15 <TheMask96> ah ok 15:11:59 <TheMask96> well.. it is a dutch offensive word yes... calling someone a 'lul' is like calling someone a 'dickhead'... 15:12:31 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 15:13:05 <peter1138> LUL = London Underground Limited 15:13:11 <peter1138> not "Line" 15:13:28 <Sacro> openttd: gfx.c:1397: GfxMainBlitter: Assertion `bp.height > 0' failed. 15:13:28 <Sacro> Aborted 15:13:44 <Sacro> peter1138: but still... 15:14:17 <peter1138> so which newgrfs are you using? 15:14:25 <TheMask96> Sacro: but i doubt anyone would have a problem with it, unless they are catholic or something... 15:17:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> there are catholics in england? 15:17:58 <Sacro> lol 15:18:02 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: yes 15:18:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> all catholics i know are from bavaria or something... 15:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm living in a majorly protestantic area... 15:19:28 <TheMask96> some university here changed their name, cause the abbreviation wasn't something they liked... 'katholic university tilburg' it was called, and 'kut' in dutch means 'pussy'. So the religeous people their didn't want people to call the university that way ;) 15:19:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> after all, i go to the Martin Luther University ;) 15:24:32 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2FA37.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:24:33 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 15:28:25 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:29:12 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["If that's me, then who am I?"] 15:29:12 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 15:34:01 *** TiberiusTeng [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 15:34:01 *** SBT-Xchat [n=Tibeius@211-74-182-249.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:51:03 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:54:02 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:56:53 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@212.24.150.227] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:00:20 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 16:00:44 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 16:02:03 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:03:05 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACD6D423.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 16:07:49 <peter1138> TL|Away: is it me or is our ./configure wrong? there's --libpng-config=* and --lib-png-config... 16:09:26 <Sacro> lol 16:10:31 <TL|Away> peter1138: typos are always possible 16:10:40 <TL|Away> I have no doubt you can read 16:10:49 <peter1138> just wondering if it's meant to be like that ;p 16:10:50 <TL|Away> so if you say that it says, then that it says, and so it is wrong ;) 16:10:55 <TL|Away> doubtful 16:10:58 <TL|Away> what does --help say? 16:11:04 <peter1138> --libpng-config 16:11:13 <TL|Away> so I guess it should be like that ;) 16:12:04 <peter1138> hmm, my sdl now contains directfb support, it hink 16:12:12 <peter1138> cos openttd links against it :/ 16:12:32 <peter1138> that's a noisy driver 16:17:14 <Belugas> OINK OINK!! 16:27:28 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:38 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5076 /trunk/ (settings.c yapf/yapf_settings.h): CodeChange: [YAPF] Platform selection feature related settings added into regular savegames (breaks savegame compatibility only with r5070 and 5071). 16:33:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> i sense a flame coming ;) 16:33:18 <peter1138> i doubt it 16:33:21 <KUDr> because of my commit ? 16:33:24 <peter1138> they were never nightlies ;p 16:33:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> ok ;) 16:33:57 <KUDr> this is why i was waiting with it for next revision increment 16:34:12 <KUDr> so it is best time now 16:34:23 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:34:24 <peter1138> yeah 16:34:42 <peter1138> hmm 16:35:00 <peter1138> although 16:35:13 <KUDr> something wrong? 16:35:16 <peter1138> you remove 28s and replaced with 29s 16:35:25 <KUDr> there were NS flags 16:35:31 <peter1138> oh 16:35:33 <KUDr> so no regular savegames 16:35:39 <peter1138> yes :) 16:35:41 <KUDr> only network 16:35:55 <KUDr> i tried to do my best 16:36:16 <peter1138> i didn't see the NS :) 16:36:22 <KUDr> ok 16:36:34 <KUDr> hope it is fine so 16:36:39 <peter1138> should be 16:36:42 <peter1138> 's only nightlies 16:38:32 <peter1138> 'spose i should sync utf8 at some point 16:46:32 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5077 /branch/utf8/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [utf8] Add freetype options to configure, and makefile. 16:48:41 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.66.198.134] has joined #openttd 16:49:11 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946A5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:26 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 16:57:24 *** CmdKewin [n=cmdkewin@212.243.72.197] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 17:00:39 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:02:58 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 17:03:22 <MeusH> hi 17:03:54 <XeryusTC> hi all 17:04:42 <RichK67> hi and bye - see ya laters 17:04:52 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 17:15:34 <MeusH> "Anyone posting any bash.org or qdb.us URL twice in 10 minutes will be banned" <== why is that? for how long? 17:15:43 <MeusH> http://bash.org 17:15:47 <MeusH> http://bash.org 17:19:08 <CIA-3> miham * r5078 /trunk/lang/american.txt: 17:19:08 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-02 19:18:56 17:19:08 <CIA-3> american - 15 fixed by WhiteRabbit (15) 17:20:20 <MiHaMiX> Total I18N status: 93% - 4868 bad strings out of 73164 strings 17:20:24 <Prof_Frink> MeusH: that was peter1138 abusing his power 17:21:02 <MiHaMiX> 3 least translated languages are (in order): afrikaans, slovenian and latvian. 17:22:31 <Sacro> MeusH: peter1138 got fed up with Bjarni posting them 17:23:43 <MeusH> good Bjarni 17:23:48 <MeusH> I like them :) 17:29:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 17:29:31 <peter1138> hmm? 17:31:49 <Born_Acorn> fear him. 17:31:52 <Born_Acorn> fear! 17:36:25 <MiHaMiX> lol :D 17:36:34 <MiHaMiX> #kindergarten again? :D 17:38:14 <hylje> :> 17:39:46 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 17:40:27 <RichK67> hi all 17:40:30 <orudge> Hello 17:40:31 <Sacro> i need an NFO programmer 17:40:38 <Sacro> hey RichK67, orudge 17:40:54 <RichK67> Darkvater ping 17:40:55 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:45:07 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:45:16 <peter1138> is that like an EPROM programmer? 17:45:27 <Sacro> peter1138: i can do EPROM and EEPROM 17:46:15 <RichK67> and get a gorgeous tan infront of the UV lamp :) 17:52:02 <peter1138> :d 17:53:59 <Sacro> ooh, a lovely geeky tan 17:56:35 <Bjarni> <Sacro> MeusH: peter1138 got fed up with Bjarni posting them <-- hey, I was not even online when it was written 17:56:46 <Bjarni> I mean when the topic was written 17:57:08 <peter1138> mwuahaha, freetype added :D 17:57:19 <peter1138> and it's now optional, even if compiled in 17:59:19 <peter1138> and it has settings 18:01:04 <RichK67> bbs 18:01:11 <peter1138> hmm, 9KB 18:01:18 *** Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 18:11:09 *** anboni [i=daemon@213.84.172.235] has joined #openttd 18:11:24 <anboni> evening 18:13:37 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5079 /branch/utf8/ (debug.c debug.h fontcache.c fontcache.h openttd.c settings.c): [utf8] Add support for glyph drawing via freetype 18:17:46 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36DED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:52 <anboni> KUDr, ping? 18:19:26 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:23:39 <brygge_2> Celestar, ping 18:23:45 <hylje> brygge_2: pong 18:23:52 <Belugas> Belugas : ping 18:24:13 * Belugas pongs 18:25:27 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-73.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:35:42 <KUDr> anboni: pong 18:36:29 <anboni> KUDr, looks like yapf in 5078 is having some trouble finding the paths again.. sorta looks like the effect i reported about a week ago where trains got stuck at dead ends 18:37:11 <KUDr> can you enter in flyspray 18:37:16 <KUDr> ? 18:37:21 <anboni> yup, will do 18:37:34 <KUDr> would be good to have there description and savegame 18:37:40 <KUDr> thanks 18:37:53 <KUDr> i am now fixing anothe bug i made 18:38:17 <anboni> ok 18:38:50 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 18:39:07 <anboni> KUDr, is that other bug related to the actual pathfinding as well? 18:39:22 <KUDr> no 18:39:48 <anboni> ok, going to report this right away then, not wait for that bugfix:) 18:40:02 <KUDr> it is related to GetTileTrackStatus() - i made there changes that have consequecies elsewhere 18:41:10 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82.39.52.234] has joined #openttd 18:41:53 <anboni> KUDr, an M after the revision number means there's non-svn changes to this version, right? 18:42:17 <KUDr> no idea 18:43:03 <Noldo> anboni: yes 18:43:09 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-33.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:43:20 <anboni> ok, this was the version where i increased the max resolution... removing that and remaking, just in case :) 18:44:21 <Brianetta> Bridge-over-everything. Cool 18:44:27 <anboni> very 18:44:35 <KUDr> yes 18:44:42 <KUDr> very nice feature 18:44:55 <KUDr> game is much more playable 18:46:04 <Brianetta> Time to adjust the house rules (: 18:46:07 <Brianetta> ppcis.org/nightly 18:46:07 <brygge_2> Brianetta: when will you update your nigthly server? 18:46:20 <Brianetta> brygge_2: Next time, tomorrow night 18:46:40 <brygge_2> okey 18:47:08 <Brianetta> But I think you're assuming it isn't already at the latest nightly 18:47:39 <brygge_2> Brianetta: no it isn't 18:47:49 <brygge_2> can't join 18:48:38 <Brianetta> Current nightly is 5078. My night'y server's version is 5078. What are you trying to use? 18:48:57 <RichK67> good - new airports syncs with trunk (with bridges ;) ) 18:49:59 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:50:55 <RichK67> hmm - new bridges mean better junctions... time to get #openttdcoop working ;) 18:51:07 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:11 <brygge_2> Brianetta: oops i got 5064 18:51:14 <Brianetta> My server's rule 5 used to encourage players not to use excessive diagonal track or tight signalling. This is no longer necessary. 18:51:19 <Brianetta> Now: Players should try to build railway lines in a considerate manner. Players can build bridges over almost anything now, but consideration should still be made to the enjoyment of other players. 18:52:01 <brygge_2> Brianetta: sorry for not checking if there where a new nightly =( 18:52:17 <Brianetta> brygge_2: Every night. 18:52:29 <RichK67> nightly in fact ;) 18:52:43 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E871.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:52:46 <RichK67> (except when it isnt ;) ) 18:52:57 <brygge_2> Brianetta: i know, but what time? 18:53:10 <RichK67> 8pm CET, 7pm BST 18:53:36 <brygge_2> RichK67: thanks 18:54:07 <RichK67> gotta go - got baddies to kill... :) 18:54:26 <anboni> KUDr, FS#197 18:54:36 <KUDr> thanks 18:54:41 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 19:00:22 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4563.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:00:41 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-3760.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:00:57 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 19:05:50 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:05:58 *** Aankh|Clone [n=pockled@203.101.1.3] has joined #openttd 19:08:41 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36DED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 19:08:52 <Sacro> oooh, new nightly 19:09:07 <anboni> and not just any new nightly:) 19:09:52 <XeryusTC> Sacro: there was a new nightly yesterday too :P 19:10:12 <Sacro> XeryusTC: hmm, there seems to be quite a few 19:10:44 <XeryusTC> yes 19:10:57 <XeryusTC> nightlies get outdated quicker then hardware :) 19:13:14 <Sacro> hmm 19:13:21 <Sacro> must change grfs from LUL to UKRS 19:17:19 <valhallazzzw> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Weebleleezer/Aircraftcarrier/111111aaaamar05510.jpg ... 19:17:50 <hylje> lego 19:17:51 <hylje> :o 19:17:57 <anboni> omg, too much time on his hands :) 19:18:22 <anboni> (says he who spends a lot of time playing ottd :) ) 19:18:33 <XeryusTC> cool 19:18:34 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:18:36 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:18:50 <XeryusTC> i have a friend that does the same thing with cities :) 19:18:55 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-227-48.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:22:19 <TL|Away> SpaceCowboy is COOL! (and free, and MMO ;)) 19:23:57 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.166.154] has joined #openttd 19:25:06 <anboni> awwww i cant build a bridge over a bridge :( 19:25:17 <hylje> :< 19:25:57 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.1.3] has quit [Success] 19:25:58 <XeryusTC> anboni: svn://svn.openttd.org/branch/bridge :P 19:26:04 <anboni> :) 19:26:27 <glx> XeryusTC: it's merged 19:26:30 <anboni> i dont think i'm ready for changes of that magnitude just yet :) 19:26:50 <XeryusTC> glx: it is? cool :) 19:27:38 <Celestar> yo 19:27:50 <anboni> Celestar, you rock :) 19:28:16 <Celestar> i do? :) 19:28:20 <anboni> sorta 19:28:41 <Celestar> crossing bridges will come later 19:28:46 <anboni> if you'd take a look at FS#172 and the diff i attached to it, you'd rock even more :) 19:29:08 *** jonty_comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-73.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:29:16 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5080 /trunk/roadveh_cmd.c: -Fix: RVs can enter other player's depot or roadstop (introduced by YAPF related change of GetTileTrackStatus() - r4419) 19:29:18 <Celestar> later food 19:29:31 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-73.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:30:13 <Celestar> KUDr: I had some problems with the platform selector earlier, did you see that? ;) 19:30:23 <KUDr> no 19:30:31 *** jonty_comp is now known as jonty-comp 19:30:32 <KUDr> bad tunning? 19:30:41 <Celestar> dunno wait 19:30:44 <KUDr> or bag algo? 19:31:28 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has quit ["So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish"] 19:31:41 <Celestar> KUDr: http://www.fvfischer.de/ottd/platprob.sav <= bridge branch only .. 19:32:09 <Celestar> tuning problem methinks 19:32:43 <KUDr> what newgrf? 19:32:54 <Celestar> same als "always" :) 19:35:38 <Celestar> anboni: checking 172 19:35:41 <Scia> openttd: gfx.c:144: GfxFillRect: Assertion `bottom > 0' failed. 19:35:41 <Scia> Aborted 19:36:03 <Celestar> Scia: can you reproduce? 19:36:11 <Scia> trying 19:36:58 <Celestar> anboni: ah something minor. will check later :) 19:37:02 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has joined #openttd 19:37:07 <anboni> Celestar, it's a really minor thing, but i gotta start somewhere :) 19:37:27 <Celestar> yah :) 19:37:55 *** Forexs- [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:38:15 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-33.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:38:20 <Scia> can't seem to reproduce it. I was flying over the landscape and then it crashed 19:38:24 *** KritiK_ [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-33.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:38:39 <Celestar> Scia: yeah I know that problem exists 19:38:49 <Celestar> Scia: but I was never able to reproduce it 19:39:22 <Scia> I know over which area I was flying 19:39:42 <KUDr> Celestar: I don't see the problem with your savegame 19:39:45 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 19:39:49 <Scia> and there are some graphical errors, due to a load old save (brianetta's nightly) 19:39:59 <Celestar> KUDr: the loooooong train enters much too short a platform? 19:40:17 <KUDr> if there is no other choice 19:40:26 <KUDr> YAPF is only pathfinder 19:40:30 <Celestar> there is another choice, but it is busy 19:40:34 <KUDr> yes 19:40:46 <KUDr> so it is not an option i guess 19:41:05 <KUDr> it should select the best one 19:41:15 <Celestar> I think so, or some setting :) 19:41:15 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:41:47 <KUDr> then we can discuss if it is better to block whole station or only one (short) platform 19:42:07 <Celestar> KUDr: if you enter too short a platform, you normallyblock the whole station as well 19:42:12 <Celestar> because you block the entry 19:42:23 <Celestar> (not in the given example) 19:42:34 <KUDr> i understand 19:42:50 <Celestar> KUDr: optimum case (dunno if that works) would be to stop before the last presignal entry if present :P 19:42:57 <Celestar> but that's for newsignalling 19:43:05 <KUDr> but some users prefer to use that selection feature as guess, not as mandatory 19:43:23 <MeusH> xya 19:43:26 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 19:43:52 <Celestar> KUDr: possibly, yes 19:44:04 <Celestar> KUDr: most use build constant-length platforms anyway 19:44:06 <KUDr> presignal entry -> impossible to do it in PF only i think 19:44:40 <Celestar> yes 19:44:45 <KUDr> it can only wait before the long (busy) one 19:44:48 <Celestar> that's why I said for newsignalling :) 19:45:01 <Celestar> yes that could/shouldbe an option 19:45:03 <KUDr> but this you can tune yourself 19:45:50 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:46:10 <Celestar> how? 19:46:27 <KUDr> we should ask more users what they think - no problem to change the default settings 19:46:50 <Celestar> maybe we should introduce YAPF profiles :P 19:47:17 <KUDr> rail_shorter_platform_penalty 19:47:30 <KUDr> make it bigger than 10000 19:47:36 <Celestar> I've put that to 20000 and it didn't help:( 19:47:50 <KUDr> i'll try 19:48:00 <anboni> man, i just love these bridges.. too bad the fastest tube bridge is just a tad too slow for the fastest train :) 19:49:15 <Celestar> hehe @ anboni 19:49:17 <Celestar> KUDr: thanks 19:51:39 <Celestar> anboni: do they turn out to be helpful? 19:52:12 <anboni> Celestar, i'm pretty sure they will.. kinda requires a new way of thinking about tracklaying, so will be a bit to get used to :) 19:52:31 <Celestar> possible :) 19:54:53 <Celestar> next'd be crossing brides and cusstombridgeheads 19:55:29 <anboni> that'll be way cool :) 19:55:48 <anboni> think we'll ever see non-straight bridges? or is that dependant on map array? 19:55:58 <Celestar> I hope it to not be 19:56:09 <Celestar> the biggest problem about that is graphics 19:56:12 <Celestar> not the code 19:56:30 <anboni> hmm.. yeah, i can understand that.. guess nobody ever before bothered making graphics for those 19:56:32 <Celestar> thinking twice. 19:56:47 <Celestar> coding it would be minimal effort once custombridgeheads are in 19:57:01 <anboni> sweet:) 19:58:49 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 19:58:49 <Celestar> some GUI effortofcourse 19:59:07 <anboni> true 20:00:09 <anboni> maybe add raised-track buttons? 20:01:23 <Celestar> not sure 20:01:36 <Celestar> with crossing bridges, I want real higher bridges too 20:01:55 <anboni> that's already possible as it is, i thought? 20:02:00 <Celestar> yes 20:02:07 <Celestar> but I mean 2+ tile long ramps 20:02:11 <anboni> aaah ok 20:02:38 <Celestar> that should be of help at clobbered up junctions 20:02:44 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E871.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:02:46 <anboni> definately 20:02:51 *** ohyeah [n=ohyeah@82.131.120.70] has quit ["If anyone can help us, it's the two guys that have even less to do than us."] 20:05:41 <Celestar> I'm off for a couple of minutes 20:06:02 * MiHaMiX is gone for the weekend, will be back at last tuesday 20:06:35 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:10:33 *** Aankh|Clone [n=pockled@203.101.1.3] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:14:39 <KUDr> Celestar: solved - 30000 is enough (the red one gives 1000 + 10000 + 10000 = 21000) so you must get more for short platform 20:14:52 <KUDr> but it is taken from savegame 20:22:10 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 20:22:28 <KUDr> anboni: are you there? 20:22:32 <anboni> yup 20:22:42 <KUDr> i can't find the savegame 20:23:10 <anboni> blegh.. it failed to attach 20:23:15 <KUDr> aha 20:25:32 <Belugas> some ass are meant to be kicked really hard 20:25:33 <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=450401#450401 20:26:51 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:31:04 *** ohyeah [n=ohyeah@ns.spirit.ee] has joined #openttd 20:33:53 <Celestar> back 20:34:11 <Celestar> KUDr: somehow when I set the limit to 40000, it was reduced to 20000 somehow ... 20:34:17 <glx> Belugas: it seams some people don't read replys 20:34:27 <KUDr> Celestar: savegame 20:34:40 <KUDr> it is saved there 20:34:44 <Celestar> ah 20:34:48 <KUDr> and overrides your value 20:35:07 <KUDr> it is problem 20:35:10 <glx> can be changed using console I think 20:35:22 <KUDr> but i don't have idea how to change it 20:35:24 <Celestar> Belugas: you sound pissed :P 20:35:28 <KUDr> yes 20:35:33 <Celestar> KUDr: console? 20:35:36 <KUDr> but the behavior is bad 20:35:48 <KUDr> that you must use some console 20:35:52 <Celestar> KUDr: then let's brainstorm something better 20:35:54 <Celestar> (= 20:36:04 <KUDr> instead of tell: "take it from my config" 20:36:36 <Celestar> KUDr: suggestion. some GUI (in the patches window) "YAPF fine-tune" 20:36:47 <KUDr> i am thinking about one option for yapf - "use my confog settings" 20:37:00 <KUDr> this option would not be saved 20:37:12 <Belugas> Celestar : yes, I'm pissed. I've been working like for months on newhouses. I know that pasrt of the code. If it would be working, I should be one of those knowing 20:37:13 <KUDr> and will not be used for network games 20:37:15 <Celestar> too many users have too little idea how to modify openttd.cfg 20:37:47 <Celestar> KUDr: what's wrong with the GUI? ;) 20:37:50 <Noldo> they are users of cource they have no idea 20:38:17 <KUDr> Celestar: gui settings for all YAPF tunning params? 20:38:30 <Celestar> KUDr: yes. 20:38:34 <KUDr> hmm 20:38:54 <KUDr> they will not understand how to use them either 20:39:22 <KUDr> they have no idea about what "penalty" is 20:39:24 <Belugas> glx : it seems some people are just not knowingf what they are talking about, and mixing OTTD with Patch o_O 20:39:27 <Celestar> make a windows warning 20:39:49 <Celestar> "Do not touch this unless you're 100% sure what you're doing otherwise the universe might collapse" 20:40:00 <KUDr> hehe 20:40:01 <KUDr> yes 20:40:06 <KUDr> something like that 20:40:09 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-52-73.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 20:40:16 <anboni> are you sure? are you absolutely sure? are you very very very sure that you're sure? 20:40:22 <Celestar> yes 20:40:30 <Celestar> "Mouse pointer position modified" 20:40:32 <KUDr> heheh 20:41:03 <anboni> "You have moved your mouse. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect" 20:41:03 <KUDr> anboni: your savegame works fine for me 20:41:12 <anboni> did you turn on yapf? 20:41:17 <KUDr> yes :) 20:41:20 <anboni> hmm 20:41:29 <anboni> that's quite odd 20:41:33 <KUDr> it behaves the same as NPF for me 20:41:46 <KUDr> it is 20:42:01 <KUDr> no idea why it doesn't work for you 20:42:10 <KUDr> maybe you can try make clean 20:42:27 <KUDr> it helped me few times on linux 20:42:36 <anboni> yeah, i'll try that 20:42:46 <KUDr> same as on windows "Rebuild" 20:42:56 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:59 <Celestar> there's alse make mrproper 20:43:04 <anboni> i wouldn't know how that works on windows :) 20:43:14 <anboni> make clean tosses all .o's, right? 20:43:29 <glx> and deps 20:43:36 <Celestar> anboni: yes 20:43:39 <KUDr> yes 20:43:42 <anboni> what more does mrproper do? 20:43:49 <Celestar> delete configuration 20:43:52 <Celestar> Makefile.config 20:44:20 <anboni> hmm.. maybe that's an interesting extra, i'll try that if make clean isn't enough 20:44:23 <Celestar> it puts the source tree back in original state 20:44:44 <Celestar> idea taken from the linux kerenl 20:45:34 <anboni> KUDr, looks like the make clean fixed the problem.. nasty one, that 20:46:51 <peter1138> KUDr: your commit message is... ambiguous :) 20:47:12 <peter1138> KUDr: it's not clear if it was a problem, or if it is what happens now 20:47:29 <Celestar> morning peter1138 :) 20:47:59 <Celestar> where do I find Xnest in SuSE :S 20:48:29 <anboni> what do you mean? which Xnest? 20:48:33 <KUDr> peter1138: yeah, sorry - we use that way at work - describe problem, not the way how it was fixed 20:49:44 <Celestar> anboni: wrong window 20:49:53 <anboni> heh 20:50:08 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-200-241.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:11 <Celestar> YaST2 in 10.1 sucks 20:50:20 <Celestar> it fails more often than not 20:50:26 <anboni> really? hadn't noticed it sucking any more than in previous version:) 20:50:33 <anboni> (+s) 20:50:37 <Celestar> lol 20:50:39 <Celestar> it does 20:50:40 <Celestar> Bugs 20:50:41 <Celestar> Won't run well on servers supporting different visual depths. Still crashes randomly. Probably has some memory leaks. 20:50:48 <Celestar> nice (= 20:50:52 <anboni> doh 20:51:05 <Celestar> that's almost as bad as bash 20:51:27 <Celestar> BUGS 20:51:27 <Celestar> It's too big and too slow. 20:51:28 <anboni> i'm no real fan of YaST.. i like Fedora's yum much better 20:51:36 <Celestar> I find yum even worse 20:51:48 <Celestar> I've grown used to how FreeBSD does things 20:51:56 <Celestar> and ubuntu/debian 20:52:06 <anboni> but i work for a novell support shop, so any linux i get to see will most likely be SuSE-based, so gotta get used to the SuSE way of doing things 20:52:28 <Celestar> anboni: I use SuSE a lot 20:52:31 <Celestar> and 10.1 is damn good 20:52:35 <Celestar> but Yast2 is buggy 20:52:41 <anboni> (oh, and SuSe is the only distro that includes xgl/compiz out of the box :) ) 20:52:48 <Celestar> the only way I have to install rpms is y2pmsh 20:53:02 <SpComb> hmm 20:53:08 <SpComb> peter1138 isn't on quakenet? 20:53:12 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B36DED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:19 <Celestar> he isn't? 20:53:33 <SpComb> apparently not 20:54:02 <Celestar> break 20:54:05 <Celestar> y2pmsh installed 20:54:10 <Celestar> y2pmsh crashed 20:54:17 <anboni> doh 20:55:34 <Celestar> but ubuntu was the only possibly distro for my test server 20:55:42 <anboni> why? 20:56:04 <Celestar> root@niagara:[/root]# uname -a 20:56:04 <Celestar> Linux niagara 2.6.15-23-sparc64-smp #1 SMP Tue May 23 14:15:47 UTC 2006 sparc64 GNU/Linux 20:56:15 <anboni> i guess that makes sense:) 20:56:23 <Celestar> (= 20:56:26 <orudge> (= to you too 20:56:30 <orudge> You've said that thrice! 20:56:31 <Celestar> very nice box 20:56:38 <anboni> i bet 20:56:46 <anboni> but why is that a test server?:) 20:57:11 <Celestar> because we have to decide between it or a quad CPU opteron 20:57:21 <anboni> ah 20:57:24 <Celestar> (both from Sun anyway) 20:57:44 <peter1138> ah, so the bridge merge compiled fine :D 20:57:50 <Celestar> morning orudge 20:57:53 <Celestar> peter1138: ? 20:57:58 *** Vornotron [n=vorn@64-252-107-59.adsl.snet.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:04 <peter1138> Celestar: the compile farm 20:58:07 <Celestar> peter1138: I'm wondering what The Patch said about this :) 20:58:13 <Celestar> peter1138: how do you know? ;) 20:58:24 <peter1138> well, it can see lots of builds :P 20:58:28 <Celestar> users being extatic? :P 20:58:39 <peter1138> i dunno, i'm normally always on irc... 20:58:46 <peter1138> but darkvater made me leave earlier ;( 20:58:50 <Celestar> how so? 20:59:13 <anboni> tv, bbl 20:59:22 <peter1138> lol 20:59:31 <peter1138> bug reports about graphic glitches already ;p 20:59:50 <Celestar> peter1138: yes I noticed :S 21:00:02 <peter1138> although 21:00:07 <peter1138> "Has anyone noticed that you can build level crossings perfectly fine under bridges, but you can't build bridges over level crossings?" 21:00:07 * Celestar is already searching for his swords 21:00:13 <Celestar> peter1138: yes, I'm already working on that one 21:00:16 <peter1138> ok 21:00:40 <Celestar> should be a very easy fix :) 21:00:45 <peter1138> ueaj 21:00:46 <peter1138> yeah 21:00:55 <Celestar> displaced keyboard? 21:01:15 <peter1138> :D 21:02:28 <peter1138> whoops, forgot about my little "mod" 21:03:47 <glx> this "crossing" bug looks like the "signal" bug 21:04:03 <CIA-3> celestar * r5081 /trunk/tunnelbridge_cmd.c: -Fix: Could not build bridges over crossings (but crossings under bridges were possible), noticed by WhiteRabbit 21:04:08 <Celestar> glx: what crossing bug? ;) 21:04:23 <peter1138> btw 21:04:27 <peter1138> we have terraforming bugs 21:04:31 <peter1138> any idea how to fix them? 21:04:47 <Celestar> like the AI and towns terraforming stuff? 21:05:00 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:05:03 <peter1138> err 21:05:07 *** dfox [n=dfox@213.220.254.86] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:05:48 <glx> peter1138: slope change with road or rail on it? 21:05:52 <peter1138> yeah 21:05:54 <Celestar> Darkvater: you there? 21:05:55 <Belugas_Gone> bye all, I'll try to calm down >|( 21:05:56 <peter1138> that one 21:06:05 <Celestar> peter1138: RFC: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/187 21:06:14 <Celestar> (the diff I mean) 21:06:24 *** Vornicus [n=vorn@64-252-103-227.adsl.snet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:07:22 <peter1138> big patch for something so simple ;) 21:07:36 <Celestar> well it's fundamental 21:08:34 <Celestar> http://www.tt-forums.net//files/webattempts_inc_29th_jun_2016_213.png <= ooooo kkkk 21:08:45 <Celestar> Brianetta: that's pretty realistic, isn't it? 21:10:10 <Prof_Frink> Celestar: What is the purpose of that... thing/ 21:10:26 <Celestar> Prof_Frink: optimized train merging 21:10:47 <Celestar> that's really how trains work :S 21:10:54 <Celestar> (see the track above) 21:11:35 <Celestar> k guys I'm off 21:11:43 <Celestar> will solve some GUI glitches 21:11:53 * Prof_Frink feels that it's an example of why we need signals between squares rather than on them 21:12:14 * Celestar thinks that's why we need minimum distances between trains 21:13:02 <Celestar> but newsignalling will depend on it :) 21:13:41 <Celestar> normally, you wouldn't have 10 6-train cars right one behind another 21:13:50 <Celestar> 6 car train 21:13:51 <Celestar> :P 21:14:00 <Celestar> a 60 carriage train would work better 21:14:13 * Celestar is out 21:14:14 <Celestar> night 21:14:43 <peter1138> nini 21:15:07 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! signalsontileboundaries! 21:17:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... that looks like the trains going the "zick-zack" (?) outside routes are supposed to slow down 21:17:24 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5082 /branch/utf8/fontcache.c: [utf8] Fix a couple of debug message mistakes, and add a missing comment 21:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> instead of stop at the first red signal, and then block the following traffic 21:22:43 <peter1138> Prof_Frink: hmm, total savegame incompatibility :/ 21:22:50 <peter1138> (or you allow both) 21:22:58 <peter1138> (total complexity) 21:25:10 <Brianetta> Celestar: Um 21:25:18 <XeryusTC> peter1138! takesomerest! 21:25:48 <peter1138> yeah, good idea 21:26:44 <XeryusTC> some guy that made a mmorpg got pneumonia because he didn't rest when he got the flu 21:28:13 <peter1138> also my woman might beat me up 21:28:50 <peter1138> otoh, openttd in cyrillic is pretty, even if i can't read it 21:30:26 <XeryusTC> :) 21:31:03 <peter1138> and the "K?" currency suffix works too 21:33:15 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/tahoma.png 21:33:52 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: it would have to start out as an option, but the old method could be removed after the next stable release 21:34:01 <Born_Acorn> Ooh. the bridge branch! 21:34:03 <XeryusTC> nice :) 21:34:11 <Born_Acorn> Committerised! 21:34:30 <peter1138> the branch will be used for more super sekrit features 21:34:34 <peter1138> like custom bridge heads 21:34:41 <peter1138> (mine was too hacky) 21:34:54 <orudge> Woo, Tahoma. 21:35:04 <Prof_Frink> you need custombridgeheads and enhancestunnels. 21:35:08 * orudge has used Andrés's tahoma grf hack thing since yonks ago 21:35:25 <Prof_Frink> atm, you can make more compact junctions in TTDPatch because of these features 21:35:43 <peter1138> orudge: that's not a grf, of course :) 21:35:51 <orudge> Yes, I'm assuming this is freetype ;) 21:36:13 <peter1138> indeed, it's the utf8 branch (which currently only compiles with freetype enabled, oops) 21:36:30 <Born_Acorn> I agree with the Prof. 21:36:56 <peter1138> well 21:37:01 <XeryusTC> peter1138: is there a freetype copy delivered with it or can you use your own? 21:37:07 <Prof_Frink> but signalsontileboundaries would allow massive reduction in size 21:37:15 <glx> XeryusTC: use your own 21:37:19 <peter1138> i know Celestar was itching to customb ridge heads 21:37:27 <peter1138> XeryusTC: currently you roll your own 21:37:32 <XeryusTC> ok :) 21:37:40 <peter1138> XeryusTC: and the windows project files know nothing of it 21:37:56 <orudge> So, does CJK stuff work, peter1138, and how about things like combined characters/diacritics/blah? :p 21:38:03 * orudge is just curious 21:38:27 <XeryusTC> well, i have a custom version of freetype, it has quite some optimalisations :) happy i can use it with ottd in the future :) 21:39:02 <peter1138> orudge: it won't know what to do with combined characters 21:39:47 <orudge> Also, is there a plan for some sort of custom small font or something? (ie, to cover up the "5 ??? 1960" in that picture, for instance) 21:39:52 <peter1138> XeryusTC: it seems freetype is always dynamically links, so... 21:40:16 <peter1138> orudge: yes 21:40:26 <peter1138> orudge: actually that's because i didn't specify a font file to use 21:40:30 <peter1138> then it falls back to the sprites 21:40:33 <orudge> Ah, OK 21:40:35 <orudge> :) 21:40:39 * orudge pats peter1138 21:40:43 <orudge> Keep up the good work, sir. 21:40:44 <peter1138> there are two methods to supplying fonts 21:40:49 <peter1138> via newgrf action 12 21:40:55 <peter1138> and via any freetype font 21:40:56 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B815B0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:41:00 <orudge> OK 21:41:04 <glx> peter1138: with mingw the normal freetype build is only static 21:41:07 <peter1138> i've got a bitmap small font but it's not complete yet 21:41:15 <glx> need a workaround to compile the dll 21:41:20 <peter1138> only static? hmm 21:41:25 <peter1138> how strange 21:41:39 <glx> libtool stuff 21:42:02 <peter1138> orudge: problem is, any normal "small" font is way too large for us :) 21:42:14 <XeryusTC> glx: it's kinda hard to make something dynamic linkable with mingw 21:42:35 <glx> no it's easy if there's no undefined symbols 21:42:52 <peter1138> glx: hmm, well, if it uses freetype-config, it should be okay 21:43:19 * peter1138 -> sleep 21:43:20 <peter1138> nini 21:43:30 <XeryusTC> night 21:43:48 <glx> night peter1138 21:45:27 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZzZ 21:45:53 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 21:48:20 <SchAmane> wow ukainian language !!! 21:48:26 <SchAmane> i want have this 21:51:02 <orudge> peter1138: Well, when I thought of that, I was thinking mainly of the Windows "Small Fonts" font. I don't know if many others exist :p 21:53:10 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:55:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> that does not look like it contains cyrillic letters 21:59:05 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@59.167.28.143] has joined #openttd 22:02:46 <valhallazzzw> I wonder if Microsoft would complain if we used comic sans MS in openttd 22:02:47 <orudge> No, it doesn't 22:02:52 <valhallazzzw> I'm sure the players would >:)~ 22:02:54 <orudge> but that was the font I was thinking of when I was thinking of a small font 22:03:01 <orudge> not that I was thinking of using it 22:03:05 <orudge> but it reminds me of the TTD font ;) 22:03:26 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:07:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> fitting all kinds of letters in a 3x5 rectangle is not easy ;) 22:08:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> especially, if you have a 3x5 A, how do you make that an Ä? 22:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> without increasing size? 22:09:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> and doing a proper M or even W is pretty much impossible 22:10:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> (but making chars wider is easier than higher) 22:15:45 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@59.167.28.143] has quit ["Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it"] 22:15:55 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 22:19:37 *** Zerot is now known as Zerot|zzZZzz 22:20:16 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498D37F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:17 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D01E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:24:26 *** dfox [n=dfox@r3bk86.chello.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 22:36:14 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:51:35 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 23:00:11 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:07:04 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@84.66.198.134] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:12:12 *** DjViper- [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 23:12:39 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:13:26 *** DjViper- is now known as DjViper 23:24:44 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-247-59.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:26:39 <Sacro> evening all 23:26:46 <anboni> morning 23:28:35 <XeryusTC> hi Sacro 23:28:53 <Sacro> hey anboni, XeryusTC 23:29:06 <XeryusTC> sup? 23:29:43 <Sacro> oh, an awful lot of stuff 23:31:28 <anboni> trying to build a few of these http://www.tt-forums.net//files/webattempts_inc_29th_jun_2016_213.png 23:35:43 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca295.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"]