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00:00:05 <[Shaman]> RichK67: You using windows or linux? :o 00:01:30 <[Shaman]> Funny.. using a property grid to modify a property grid O_O 00:03:16 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-3760.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 00:06:52 <RichK67> windows for me 00:07:33 <[Shaman]> .net capable or not? :o 00:08:25 <RichK67> net 1.1 installed iirc 00:08:38 <[Shaman]> :o 00:12:31 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-87-102-38-195.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 00:14:49 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-227-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 00:21:23 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-227-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 00:21:36 <CIA-3> richk * r5089 /branch/MiniIN/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [MiniIN]: [SigAutoComplete]: Added Signal Auto Completion patch. 00:21:53 <[Shaman]> e// 00:23:13 <RichK67> only about 15 patches to go ;) 00:28:26 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5090 /trunk/aystar.c: -Fix: [NPF] broken by me - r4366 (thanks Tron) 00:28:59 <[Shaman]> heh 00:31:24 <[Shaman]> now time for me to work on the widget thingie 00:31:28 <[Shaman]> -maybe- it will work :P 00:33:38 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 00:34:12 <RichK67> be back tomorrow... oh it is ;) 00:34:15 <RichK67> cya 00:34:24 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 00:48:34 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:49:11 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 00:52:57 *** LadyHawk [i=here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:01:19 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:02:18 <Hackykid> hey, cool! singal autocompletion! 01:06:27 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:07:38 *** robobed is now known as roboman 01:07:41 <roboman> gmorning 01:08:18 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-227-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 01:24:20 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:25:18 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:26:32 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #openttd 01:36:53 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACBCE656.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 01:48:46 <[Shaman]> glx: http://www.shamanserv.nl/img/widgettest.png 01:49:05 <[Shaman]> the program 'seems' to work, bit dodgy with moving things around when yer at 1600x1200 01:49:18 <[Shaman]> (plus it's almost 4am so my eyes aren't the sharpest anymore) 01:49:27 <glx> hehe 01:49:41 <[Shaman]> (I'm custom-drawing every button >_< ) 01:49:55 <[Shaman]> once I've added more thingies to it I can make an 'export' for it :o 01:49:57 <glx> colors are indexed 01:50:29 <[Shaman]> Yeh, property grid shows the properties of the widgets on it 01:50:53 <glx> export should not be too hard to do 01:51:06 <glx> it's just an array 01:51:27 <[Shaman]> yeh 01:51:38 <[Shaman]> but i spent 2 hours on getting that to work :P 01:51:44 <[Shaman]> so another 6 for the rest at least 01:52:04 <[Shaman]> anyways, I can see faint signs of the sun trying to rise again... meaning it'll be up in.. 2 hours O_O 01:52:05 <glx> some sleep will help :) 01:52:13 <[Shaman]> indeed 01:52:15 * [Shaman] goes sleep 01:53:58 <[Shaman]> (At least I made something usefull ^^ ) 01:54:23 <glx> hmm not sure the devs will use it :) 01:54:57 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:59:28 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:59:39 *** [GREMIO]Magus_X [i=Magus_X@201.3.159.53] has joined #openttd 01:59:44 <[GREMIO]Magus_X> hello 02:00:05 *** [GREMIO]Magus_X is now known as Magus_X 02:09:30 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:10:14 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:11:35 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:11:40 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 02:18:32 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:19:34 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:40:26 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:40:33 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 02:47:34 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 03:42:54 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:45:15 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 03:46:49 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@203-217-34-90.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:59:43 *** Magus_X [i=Magus_X@201.3.159.53] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:18:00 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 04:20:15 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:44:39 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:10:47 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-202-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! 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If you start in 2090, only the 3rd and 4th maglev exist with about 30-40% reliability 08:38:56 <Rubidium> all because of the fact that the yearly aging stops in 2050, but if you start in 2090 you'll get the reliability if that aging has been continued till 2090 <- I think the reliability should be about the same in 2090, especially if the random factor for aging isn't random (I've disabled random for the reliability calculations) 08:52:15 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:53:57 <peter1138> Rubidium: a max(_date, 130) in StartupEngines might solve that? 08:54:45 <peter1138> or just continue aging vehicles after 2050 08:55:22 <Tron> s/130/something which isn't that magical/ 08:59:02 <Zr40> peter1138: min(_date, 130) rather? 09:04:43 <CIA-3> tron * r5091 /trunk/ai/trolly/trolly.c: Remove duplicate code (same check twice) 09:06:45 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:08:26 <peter1138> er, yes :) 09:10:26 <CIA-3> tron * r5092 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): -Fix: There was a gross race condition in the AI code which made it pretty random if the AI could give a new vehicle its orders 09:14:02 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5093 /trunk/ (roadveh_cmd.c ship_cmd.c train_cmd.c yapf/yapf_base.hpp): -CodeChange: [YAPF] min. debug level changed from 1 to 3 and 4 for frequent debug messages (performance stats) 09:14:17 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:14:23 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:14:36 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:15:34 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:16:44 <Tron> KUDr: 5090 was no fix, -Fix: is only for stuff which goes into the changelog. Also you made a pointless change which leads to exactly the same kind of you ran into 09:22:32 <KUDr> Tron: if you mean the line 152 - yes it is pointless for you. For me it was very important (temporary) change that i forgot to revert. 09:23:00 <KUDr> -Fix: vs. change log - sorry didn't know it 09:23:37 <Tron> this change just begs to lead to the same error you solved in the commit 09:23:53 <KUDr> no - only when comment is there 09:24:20 <KUDr> how can set breakpoint on half of line? 09:25:04 <KUDr> i will revert it back.. 09:25:04 <Tron> been there, done that, i know it provokes this kind of errors 09:25:12 <KUDr> ok 09:25:17 <Tron> either put {} there or make it one line 09:25:45 <KUDr> i would prefer {}, are you ok with that? 09:28:39 <CIA-3> tron * r5094 /trunk/ (11 files in 2 dirs): Remove _new_{aircraft,roadveh,ship,train,wagon}_id. _new_vehicle_id is enough. 09:28:56 * roboman dinner 09:29:01 *** roboman is now known as robodinner 09:31:22 <CIA-3> KUDr * r5095 /trunk/aystar.c: -CodeChange: {} added around returns 09:34:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81A65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:34:42 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:40:47 <anboni> hmm.. interesting.. TGP planted 4 oil refineries really close together, all belonging to the same town :) 09:42:34 <KUDr> anboni: check you patches settings 09:43:29 <Rubidium> peter1138: if you continue aging after 2050, you've get reliabilities < 50% in 2090 (the reliability of the last (two) maglev trains drops after 2080) 09:44:37 <anboni> KUDr, yeah, i know there's those two settings that influence it.. just seems a bit excessive to have 4 refineries so close, but i guess the algo doesnt differentiate between types of industry:) 09:50:04 <Rubidium> what about: http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/account_aging_start_after_2050.diff ? 09:50:49 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 09:51:51 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:51:58 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:00:32 *** robodinner is now known as roboman 10:05:27 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:12:15 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:23:00 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B7794B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 10:30:28 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7794B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:37:02 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944878.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [""cal 9 1752""] 10:38:11 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549448D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:40:42 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176104110.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:51:43 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B81A65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:04:46 <[Shaman]> ln-: I still had to spend an hour today fixing what got b0rked by apt last night :P 11:05:52 <ln-> that's not normal. 11:06:01 <ln-> what was borked then? 11:06:25 <[Shaman]> samba wasn't showing up as it was supposed to show up 11:06:41 <[Shaman]> proftpd's config somehow got reverted to the old version 11:06:45 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:06:56 <[Shaman]> and mysql failed to restart (while it didn't even get updated) 11:08:33 <ln-> what did you answer to the questions about what to do with config files? 11:08:57 <[Shaman]> same as i did all previous times, dialog 11:10:07 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-227-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:11:46 <[Shaman]> hm what happened to /trunk/table/strings.h ? 11:12:01 <[Shaman]> ah 11:12:05 <[Shaman]> svn:ignore . 11:12:22 <[Shaman]> that explains why it wasn't compiling.. it can't get strings.h. 11:13:04 <Darkvater> it's generated by strgen 11:13:54 <[Shaman]> then strgen isn't compiling properly 11:13:56 * [Shaman] fiddles 11:18:09 <Darkvater> Celestar: . 11:18:30 <ln-> [Shaman]: btw, if you upgraded your system more regularly, it would be less likely to break up. 11:19:54 * [Shaman] shrugs 11:20:03 <[Shaman]> once every big holliday 11:20:21 <[Shaman]> cuz then you have the time to spend 14 hours on it :P 11:20:55 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:22:36 <ln-> if you upgrade 0 to 3 packages at a time, you certainly don't have to spend 14 hours fixing it. 11:23:49 <ln-> actually i have never heard anyone breaking up a debina system just by upgrading it. (except upgrading from old stable to new stable) 11:23:55 <ln-> debian even 11:27:18 *** ProfFrin1 [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:27:44 <[Shaman]> heh 11:28:13 <[Shaman]> They hadn't heared of people breaking win xp before being able to log in the first time.. happened to me as well 11:28:51 <XeryusTC> [Shaman]: did you smash your harddisk with a hammer? 11:29:11 <anboni> who're "they" in that case? because i've seen plenty of XP breaking before first login.. that installation is pretty fucked up if the system is a bit more complex than 1 harddrive 11:29:41 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:30:17 <[Shaman]> anboni: microsoft techsupport :P 11:30:21 <[Shaman]> and no, I didn't 11:30:39 <anboni> of course they would say it's the first time they heard of it 11:31:10 <anboni> (well.. maybe, just maybe, everybody else who ran into those problems didn't bother calling it in in the first place, because they already know techsupport is basically useless) 11:31:42 <[Shaman]> wasn't useless, got myself a brand new xp 11:31:51 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 11:32:39 <[Shaman]> time to see if i can make this widget thingie work 11:33:48 *** joed_ [n=James@CPE-139-168-61-123.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Client exiting"] 11:34:12 <peter1138> hmm 11:36:17 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:36:17 *** ProfFrin1 is now known as Prof_Frink 11:39:12 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B84FC6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:43:57 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:45:20 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:46:15 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:48:11 *** TL|Away is now known as 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13:29:50 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:30:20 <Magus_X> the wiki is offline? 13:30:43 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:37:18 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-49-40.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 13:38:10 <Darkvater> yes 13:38:18 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: you are teh n33d3D 13:38:22 <Darkvater> < afk 13:39:12 <Belugas> MiHaMiX is gone until Monday 13:39:41 <CIA-3> tron * r5098 /trunk/ai/trolly/trolly.c: Do some manual CSE and replace a few magic numbers to improve the readability of the trolly AI 13:40:34 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176104110.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:40:44 <Magus_X> :( 13:46:56 *** RoySmeding [n=Roy@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:54:55 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit ["En KLAP.. de klaptop is dicht..."] 14:01:10 *** Moileseullunik 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Or just generation of widget arrays? 15:08:22 <Belugas> Ho.. I see 15:09:07 <[Shaman]> only the labels of the widgets are being a PITA :/ 15:09:38 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2FAE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:40 <Belugas> Widgets are hard to deal with, agreed. I have been able (txs to TrueLight) to make a "dynamic" widget array for new cargo 15:12:13 <CIA-3> egladil * r5100 /branch/32bpp/ (aircraft_cmd.c aircraft_gui.c gfx_util.h): [32bpp] -Replace some old sprite drawing function calls. 15:12:16 <Belugas> I'm considering what wuld be needed in order to make gui more practicable. 15:12:49 <Belugas> I think that each button should have its own event code handler 15:13:28 <Belugas> It could be a generic one, too. but the onclik method should not be based on position in the widgets array. 15:13:31 <Belugas> It stinks 15:13:43 <[Shaman]> http://www.shamanserv.nl/img/widgettest.png 15:13:45 <Belugas> well... personnal opinion 15:14:00 <[Shaman]> it can at least 'show' widget sections 15:14:18 <[Shaman]> now just to make something so it allows people to make their own/move them etc 15:16:15 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has joined #openttd 15:17:31 <Ihmemies> btw.. any progress with the new gui? 15:17:45 <[Shaman]> who, me? 15:17:46 <Ihmemies> like, scalable buttons, font etc :) 15:17:54 <Ihmemies> someone, who knows the answer :D 15:17:59 <[Shaman]> not me :P 15:18:00 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-49-40.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["TOMATO! ^_^"] 15:20:01 <Belugas> I don't think there is such a project, Ihmemies 15:20:48 <Belugas> i'm thinking of improving curent one, a new one is quite a job 15:21:14 <Ihmemies> but :( 15:22:13 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2F694.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:22:13 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 15:22:33 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:23:32 <Belugas> but what? I have plenty to work on as we speak, thanks. There is a whole difference between thinking and doing 15:26:00 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 15:26:06 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 15:27:38 <[Shaman]> I now only need a list of 'maximum sizes' for the widget items 15:27:44 <[Shaman]> so i can change mine accordingly 15:30:42 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:41 <[Shaman]> http://www.shamanserv.nl/img/widgettest.png << workage e// 15:33:05 <[Shaman]> text items work, scrollbar is visible (doesn't work tho, but doesn't have to) 15:33:22 *** chrisdj [n=chrisdj@host81-132-131-9.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:33:39 <chrisdj> hi people 15:33:45 <[Shaman]> hi. 15:33:47 <chrisdj> could sum one help me pleaes 15:34:13 <glx> just ask :) 15:34:17 <chrisdj> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25501 15:34:36 <chrisdj> i posted this, saves me typing it again 15:35:10 <[Shaman]> doing a simple forum search would have revealed a lot. 15:35:25 <glx> what do you mean by "new cool graphics"? 15:35:32 <glx> those on graphic forum? 15:35:32 <[Shaman]> glx: newgrf. 15:35:45 <chrisdj> i dunno, ive seen screenshots and that 15:35:54 <chrisdj> but the graphics seem to be well cool 15:36:01 <[Shaman]> try doing a forum search for "Newgrf" 15:36:16 <chrisdj> ok but is there a patch for openttd? 15:36:32 <Belugas> patch is not TTDPatch 15:36:59 <chrisdj> sorry what? 15:37:04 <Belugas> everything is there, just need to download what you like, config and there you go 15:37:17 <glx> there are many patches for openttd 15:37:30 <glx> to install them you need to compile openttd yourself 15:37:30 <chrisdj> ok so wich ones hav u guys got? wots the bet? 15:37:46 <chrisdj> best* 15:37:50 <Belugas> I think he means patches as in "patch the software", not config... 15:38:40 <chrisdj> have u guys downloaded new graphics and stuff? 15:39:07 <[Shaman]> Nop, i play origional ottd 15:39:09 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:39:31 <Belugas> I don't have time to play 15:39:46 <chrisdj> does any one no how to install new graphics then 15:39:57 <[Shaman]> chrisdj: read.. the..site 15:40:01 <[Shaman]> there's a wiki, there's readme files 15:40:05 <Belugas> search on the forums, plenty of thread on it 15:40:08 <[Shaman]> and there's people who allready have asked. 15:40:12 <MeusH> chrisdj: try grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ 15:41:17 <chrisdj> kool cheers meush 15:41:29 <Belugas> and there 15:41:30 <Belugas> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=14243 15:43:30 <[Shaman]> and don't forget http://www.tt-forums.net/search.php 15:43:30 <chrisdj> that says i need a patch though for the graphics 15:43:40 *** Magus_X [i=Magus_X@201-15-173-81.paemt705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [] 15:43:44 <Belugas> everything is there, just need to download what you like, config and there you go 15:43:48 <Belugas> patch is not TTDPatch 15:44:01 <Belugas> Openttd is not TTDPatch 15:45:37 <Belugas> in your openttd folder, there is a file called openttd.cfg. Near the end, a section [newgrf]. UNderneath it, simply enter the name of the grf file, related to the data folder 15:45:45 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:45:45 <Belugas> there you go 15:48:08 <chrisdj> were do i type it? 15:48:59 <[Shaman]> read what he said? :o 15:49:06 <[Shaman]> [Belugas]: in your openttd folder, there is a file called openttd.cfg. Near the end, a section [newgrf]. 15:49:44 <glx> hmm you should add this [newgrf] section :) 15:50:10 <[Shaman]> my .cfg has [newgrf].. while i don't use them. 15:52:22 <chrisdj> could you type it in english please haha 15:52:49 <Belugas> in english 15:53:02 <[Shaman]> dunno, what we just said was pretty much proper english 15:53:10 <[Shaman]> i can do it in dutch if needed? or in swahili? 15:53:12 <[Shaman]> :o 15:53:24 <chrisdj> i have found the config file, and i have opened it, now what do i do? 15:53:25 <Belugas> i can in french :D 15:53:44 <[Shaman]> scroll to the bottom of the file 15:53:48 <[Shaman]> then you'll be 'near the end' 15:53:58 <[Shaman]> there should be a line saying [newgrf] 15:54:02 <[Shaman]> if it's not there, add it 15:54:23 <[Shaman]> under that line add filenames of the grf files you downloaded, relative to the main directory of ottd 15:54:43 <glx> [Shaman]: relative to data dir 15:54:52 <peter1138> Celestar: ping 15:55:00 <[Shaman]> what he said. 15:55:08 <glx> newgrf files should go in data dir 15:56:10 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:58:45 <chrisdj> AHHHH I CANT GET IT TO WORK 16:01:04 <chrisdj> yea its not worked 16:01:52 <glx> chrisdj: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=9424 <-- this explains what to do 16:03:47 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 16:03:55 <chrisdj> hurah!!!! thanks 16:04:18 <CIA-3> tron * r5101 /trunk/ (bridge_map.h depot.h direction.h vehicle.c water_map.h): Add a function to convert an axis and a flag for north/south into a DiagDirection. Use it for bridge ramps and ship depots 16:04:50 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-227-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 16:05:08 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 16:05:36 <Belugas_Gone> Bye everyone 16:06:20 <[Shaman]> glx: Search be your friend? :o 16:06:55 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 16:07:11 <glx> I just opened one sticky in graphics forum and there was a link to the thread I posted :) 16:07:23 <[Shaman]> yeh 16:07:29 <[Shaman]> some people fail to read. 16:08:04 <glx> and that page says the same as we said here :) 16:08:09 *** Taketwo [n=adseag@adsl-84-227-214-124.adslplus.ch] has quit [] 16:08:43 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 16:09:07 <[Shaman]> point made then ;) 16:09:14 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-227-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:11:06 *** Red602 is now known as csuke 16:11:29 <Sacro> my god bobingabout is thick 16:14:05 <peter1138> ? 16:17:37 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:46 <Darkvater> < back 16:20:08 <Sacro> peter1138: nm 16:20:40 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-143.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:24:15 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-1501.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 16:26:40 <TrueLight> rebooted apache on nightly/wiki, back working again 16:33:28 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:34:54 <peter1138> bah, i "need" signals on bridge heads ;p 16:37:00 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 16:37:10 <RichK67> hi all 16:37:57 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46aea.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:37:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:38:23 <peter1138> hi 16:39:04 <RichK67> good news on TGP: i think ive killed the "industries destroy towns" bug... and we now have mountain peaks!! :) 16:41:07 <Sacro> right, thats C69/77 stock done... 16:42:46 <Bjarni> I'm back again 16:43:08 <Bjarni> after a whole day out 16:43:11 <Sacro> Aaaaaaaaarrh its a Bjarni 16:43:16 <peter1138> disgusting 16:43:35 <Bjarni> hey, I cleaned off the lube oil 16:43:37 <Bjarni> I think 16:43:48 <Sacro> Bjarni: its still uncomfy for me to sit though 16:43:52 <Bjarni> at least the lube oil smell is gone 16:44:06 <Sacro> not from here it hasnt 16:44:46 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:44:48 <Bjarni> if you think this is bad, then you should have tried it BEFORE I cleaned my hands 16:44:54 <Bjarni> note: cleaned, not washed 16:45:04 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:45:22 <Sacro> riiiiiiiight, im just gonna go back to LUL stock 16:45:41 <Bjarni> LUL stock? 16:45:45 <peter1138> hmm 16:45:49 <peter1138> ukrs is harsh 16:46:07 <peter1138> income: £27,223,000 16:46:07 <Bjarni> is that one leaking lube oil as well? 16:46:22 <peter1138> operating profit: £3,670,000 16:48:19 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 16:48:21 <Bjarni> sounds like you got a poor income compared to your running costs 16:48:23 <Bjarni> at least it's in the profit area 16:48:26 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:48:43 <peter1138> running costs are medium, hmm. 16:48:53 <peter1138> otoh, it's a small map 16:49:03 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:49:20 <peter1138> maybe i should switch back from maglev to elrail 16:49:25 <peter1138> they're expensive to run 16:51:03 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 16:51:27 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:55:06 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-202-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:55:15 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B84FC6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:57:18 *** raspi [i=raspi@phpfi.org] has quit ["leaving"] 16:57:37 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp15-87.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 17:01:09 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACBCE656.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 17:14:02 <chrisdj> any one know where i can get some good graphics? 17:14:44 <brygge_2> http://www.grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ 17:15:21 <Bjarni> http://www.ewetel.net/~michael.blunck/ttd/ 17:15:47 <Bjarni> read the graphics forum as well if you want even more 17:16:15 <Born_Acorn> GRF Crawler has em all though, including Michael Bluncks. :p 17:16:36 <chrisdj> do all of them work with open? coz ive already been on that, and som dont work 17:16:39 <Bjarni> good point 17:17:01 <Bjarni> use the nightly build as it got better support 17:17:10 <Bjarni> also some features don't work 17:17:31 <Born_Acorn> For example, the nightlies support newstations. 17:17:49 <Born_Acorn> and the US Set supposedly works better too. 17:17:53 <[Shaman]> Bjarni: It took us 20 minutes to explain him how to 'install' them... i got this feeling he won't know what to do with nightlies ;) 17:18:06 <brygge_2> most of the stations on that page is supported with newstations 17:18:17 <Bjarni> [Shaman]: how should I know that? I was offline 17:18:30 <[Shaman]> Hence why I'm informing you now ;) 17:18:45 <Born_Acorn> lets tell him to apply mart3p's patches. See how long that takes. :p 17:20:11 <peter1138> what? 17:20:28 <Bjarni> let him start to work on that now and we can bet if he is done when I get home tomorrow 17:20:31 <Born_Acorn> Or has Callbakc 19 been merged? 17:20:46 <peter1138> well, currently, i'm fiddling with ... newsounds 17:20:51 <Born_Acorn> ooh. 17:20:55 <peter1138> 14KB of it 17:20:58 <peter1138> errr 17:21:09 <peter1138> 17KB of it 17:21:11 <Born_Acorn> Well, hasn't all the work been done for Callback 19 by mart3p already? 17:21:17 <RichK67> btw - would it help to have OTTD create an empty [newgrf] section when it creates a new .cfg file?? it is annoying that i keep having to add it 17:21:30 <Born_Acorn> I agree with RichK67. 17:21:40 <[Shaman]> hey RichK67. 17:21:43 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: not all 17:21:46 <RichK67> hi 17:21:48 <Born_Acorn> ahh. 17:21:56 <peter1138> is typing "[newgrf]" that hard? :p 17:21:59 <[Shaman]> RichK67: http://www.shamanserv.nl/img/widgettest.png 17:22:04 <Bjarni> RichK67 got a point. I wondered about that as well 17:22:04 <Born_Acorn> But its annoying! 17:22:37 <Bjarni> peter1138: it's impossible for some people 17:22:43 <RichK67> nice start shaman... expect full implementation by ... err... yesterday ;) 17:22:54 <[Shaman]> heh 17:22:57 <[Shaman]> well 17:23:01 <[Shaman]> drawing was one of the nasty parts 17:23:12 <[Shaman]> next step would be making a control that allows dragging the crap 17:23:25 <RichK67> its a joke - i know ho long these things take 17:23:39 <RichK67> ho=how 17:23:41 <[Shaman]> well 17:23:44 <[Shaman]> i spent till 4am on it 17:23:49 <RichK67> lol :) 17:23:49 <[Shaman]> then when i woke up i rewrote it all 17:23:52 <[Shaman]> (in 2 hours time) 17:24:05 <[Shaman]> so it won't take -that- long i think 17:24:30 <RichK67> i sorted out a lot of the TGP problems; no "industries-destroy-towns", and we now have mountain peaks :) 17:24:45 <Darkvater> it's time 17:24:56 <Darkvater> RichK67: don't double-post :P 17:24:57 <RichK67> hi DV... New Airports time :) 17:25:03 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5102 /branch/0.4/widget.c: 17:25:03 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4753): 17:25:03 <CIA-3> Truncate text in dropdown lists to stop text overflowing. 17:26:01 <Darkvater> yes, right after my backporting-session :) 17:26:05 <RichK67> yughh... coffee with extra protein.... an ant :( 17:26:21 <RichK67> woohoo :) 17:27:01 <peter1138> Bjarni: that ttdp motion counter is a bitch. turns out we both had it totally wrong ;( 17:28:44 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:29:35 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 17:30:08 <Bjarni> peter1138: oh well, we tried 17:30:27 <Bjarni> it's not completely lost, since now you know what NOT to do ;) 17:31:50 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-143.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Teazors"] 17:32:11 <peter1138> Bjarni: yea... i spent ages finding out what to do... 17:32:32 <peter1138> i shall add it soon 17:32:39 <peter1138> then train animation will work :D 17:33:39 <Bjarni> :D 17:34:37 <Bjarni> then we need them to make sounds in sync with the graphics and steam puffs 17:35:37 <RichK67> bbl 17:35:38 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 17:36:26 <Darkvater> hmm 17:36:34 <Darkvater> r5070 reverted r4964 17:36:47 <Darkvater> is there any reason for this? 17:37:00 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:37:57 <peter1138> yeah, bridges work differently 17:38:52 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5103 /trunk/ (aircraft_cmd.c ship_cmd.c train_cmd.c): - Add cargo subtype parameter to refit commands (mart3p) 17:39:56 *** chrisdj [n=chrisdj@host81-132-131-9.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["Bye for now!"] 17:40:13 *** DJMirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:40:51 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["icebears... take care of them!"] 17:41:32 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8062E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:46:41 <Eddi|zuHause> was that the livery refit patch? 17:46:59 <peter1138> no 17:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause> what then? 17:47:33 <peter1138> part of it ;p 17:47:39 <peter1138> make 17:47:40 <Eddi|zuHause> ok ;) 17:47:43 <peter1138> er 17:48:08 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:49:18 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5104 /trunk/ (aircraft_cmd.c ship_cmd.c train_cmd.c): - When refitting a vehicle to its existing cargo type, don't lose the cargo onboard (useful when adding wagons to a train) 17:49:42 <Born_Acorn> was that the livery refit patch? 17:49:48 <Born_Acorn> :p 17:49:54 * Born_Acorn figures we ask every time! 17:50:49 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176106155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 17:51:03 <peter1138> no 17:51:12 <peter1138> that wasn't even mart3p's patch, heh 17:51:51 <Eddi|zuHause> but it was an annoying bug ;) 17:52:49 <Sacro> is there a way to increase the order limit =? 17:53:03 <Noldo> Sacro: what is it? 17:53:22 <Sacro> not sure, but apparently TTT have hit it 17:56:15 <peter1138> ···· * handle any more then this.. */ 17:56:15 <peter1138> ····if (v->num_orders >= MAX_BACKUP_ORDER_COUNT) return_cmd_error(STR_8832_TOO_MANY_ORDERS); 17:56:18 <peter1138> heh 17:56:29 <peter1138> order.h:#define MAX_BACKUP_ORDER_COUNT 40 17:56:59 <Bjarni> MAX_BACKUP_ORDER_COUNT <-- err, don't we just backup a single order? 17:57:05 <Belugas_Gone> a pool of orders!!! 17:57:28 <peter1138> Belugas_Gone: it is a pool... 17:57:34 <Bjarni> ahh, you mean each line of an order, not order lists 17:57:41 <Bjarni> or ? 17:57:55 <peter1138> yes 17:57:57 <Bjarni> 40... that should always be enough, right? 17:57:59 <Belugas_Gone> linked list then 17:58:04 <Belugas_Gone> no limits 17:58:44 <peter1138> the pool isn't the limit 18:01:47 * Belugas_Gone goes back in cargoing and shuts up 18:01:51 <peter1138> :) 18:01:56 <peter1138> btw 18:02:09 <peter1138> how did you get on with the newgrf text replacement? 18:02:34 <peter1138> (if you didn't, i'll have a look at it) 18:02:52 <Belugas_Gone> errr.... i kinda... hem.... forgot to test and work in it... got too much involved into newcargo 18:02:59 <peter1138> np :) 18:03:03 <peter1138> newcargos++ 18:03:04 * Belugas_Gone is face red of confusion 18:04:18 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... is it somehow (easily) possible, if you got a newgrf with texts in it (like station type names and stuff), to add custom translations? 18:04:47 <Bjarni> currently it's not possible, but it's on my wish list 18:05:06 <Bjarni> not my TODO list though, since I don't know how to do something like that :( 18:06:37 <Belugas_Gone> what a strange question, Eddi|zuHause. You could decompile the grf, adapt (or even add) the text and recompile it. 18:06:49 <Belugas_Gone> but distribution would be... hem... tricky 18:06:58 <Bjarni> I don't think you get the idea 18:07:11 <Belugas_Gone> live you mean? 18:07:24 <Bjarni> Belugas_Gone: say all engines says name (steam/diesel/electric) 18:07:58 <Bjarni> say you translate those strings and then the game can automatically inset those in any grf set 18:09:04 <peter1138> (fuel-cell) 18:09:07 <peter1138> (battery) 18:09:22 <peter1138> (solar) 18:09:26 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:09:39 <Bjarni> that is a limited problem and we should take one step at a time 18:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause> there exists a grf with a solar engine? ;) 18:09:53 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause: who knows what might exist 18:10:20 <Bjarni> we can add more engine type strings as we become aware of them 18:11:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess whoever invented the newgrf structure did not take into account easy internationalisation ;) 18:11:41 <peter1138> it does 18:11:48 <peter1138> if the grf authors support it 18:11:54 <peter1138> however 18:11:55 <Eddi|zuHause> well... internally... 18:12:10 <Eddi|zuHause> but not something simple like adding a newgrf.language.txt 18:12:11 <peter1138> you can make a grf that replaces the text 18:12:21 <Bjarni> bbl 18:12:23 <Belugas_Gone> Bjarni : the idea is that we do not store strings that comes from newgrf in a permanent state. to do something like you imply would mean saving all the newgrf strings and reload them, modified or not 18:12:47 <peter1138> lets regex it! 18:13:02 <peter1138> s/(steam)/(bjarni's word for steam)/ 18:13:12 <Bjarni> something like that 18:13:24 <Bjarni> (bjarni's word for steam)=(damp) 18:13:28 <Bjarni> ;) 18:13:32 <Bjarni> bbl 4 real 18:13:38 <Bjarni> (dinner) 18:13:39 <peter1138> s/(steam)/(damp)/ 18:13:45 <peter1138> s/(diesel)/(soggy)/ 18:13:45 <Eddi|zuHause> those danish are sooo lazy... 18:13:52 <Eddi|zuHause> they even leave out the f from Dampf 18:13:53 <peter1138> s/(fuel-cell)/(flooded)/ 18:14:04 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: haha 18:14:17 <Bjarni> actually it's s/(diesel)/(diesel) 18:14:28 <Bjarni> anyway, now I really have to go 18:14:29 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@217.123.28.144] has joined #openttd 18:14:43 <Eddi|zuHause> actually, Diesel is a name, and must be capitalized 18:15:20 <XeryusTC> Eddi|zuHause: no, it shouldn't be capitalized because people don't think of the person that invented the engine but the engine itself 18:15:44 <peter1138> damn, the new ukrs rocks 18:15:50 <peter1138> can't wait until it's finished :D 18:16:27 <Eddi|zuHause> XeryusTC: well, it does not matter, because in german, nouns are capitalized anyway ;) 18:17:28 <peter1138> the 4-6-2 streamliner's really long now 18:22:35 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5105 /trunk/ (engine.h newgrf.c table/engines.h train_cmd.c): - NewGRF: Move callbackmask from *VehicleInfo to EngineInfo. This simplifies code that works with more than one vehicle type. 18:23:06 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.105.21] has joined #openttd 18:23:24 <peter1138> (like the refit stuff, and newsounds...) 18:43:02 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:43:04 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:44:21 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3F40D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:27 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3DB7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:44:33 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 18:45:30 <Tron> peter1138? 18:52:39 *** amix [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:00:49 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:05:25 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498F2AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:24 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit ["Peace and Protection 4.22"] 19:18:29 *** jcs [n=jcs@i5387C7CF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:18:32 <jcs> Hi! 19:18:59 <jcs> anybody knows what i have to do to place a watertower? 19:19:27 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause> actually, Diesel is a name, and must be capitalized <-- well, it is in German, but not in all languages, and in Icelandic, it's spelled "disel" 19:19:27 <jcs> it always says that the land is improper for a wartertower. 19:19:37 <Bjarni> I think they missed that it's actually a name :P 19:19:52 <Bjarni> jcs: all desert towns got one on their own 19:19:57 <Bjarni> at least they should have one 19:20:01 <Bjarni> so why place new ones? 19:20:42 <hylje> when you want to deliver stuff to the middle of nowhere 19:20:43 <peter1138> Tron? 19:20:51 <Tron> yep 19:20:55 <peter1138> sup? 19:20:57 <Tron> oldloader.c:1289 19:20:57 <hylje> not all towns have water towers 19:21:12 <peter1138> magic numbers o_O 19:21:15 <Tron> would you have a look at this, please. it looks ... icky 19:21:35 <Tron> you're most familiar with engines 19:21:39 <jcs> Bjani: there are several towns that haven't got one :8 19:21:50 <Bjarni> <hylje> not all towns have water towers <-- I said desert towns, not all towns. Towns, that got their centres in the green area lacks the water towers since they don't need water 19:22:10 <jcs> yes, its in the water 19:22:17 <jcs> ehh.. desert ;-P 19:22:18 <hylje> not all desert towns have 19:22:23 <Tron> jcs: it has to be placed on a house 19:22:30 <Tron> (don't ask why) 19:22:41 <jcs> ah ok i'll give it a try.. thx 19:23:07 <Bjarni> <Tron> (don't ask why) <-- must resist the urge to ask..... 19:23:13 <Bjarni> who decided to make it like that? 19:23:26 <Bjarni> and why did that person decide like that? 19:23:33 <Bjarni> ;p 19:24:12 <jcs> well, than it says that the place is to close to another industry.. 19:24:31 <Bjarni> pick a town without a water tower 19:24:37 <jcs> args.. because of a bank. 19:24:45 <Bjarni> maybe I should start to test this 19:24:57 <jcs> it has got no watertower 19:25:38 <hylje> http://hylje.fi/files/ottd/water.png 19:28:35 <Bjarni> ok, I just manage to make the game create a map with a town, that lacks a water tower and I can't build one 19:28:43 <Bjarni> not on on top of a house 19:29:26 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 19:30:01 <Tron> as i said: water towers can only be placed _on_ houses 19:30:15 <Bjarni> I can't even build it on a house 19:30:22 <Bjarni> I could in another town, but not this one 19:31:29 <Bjarni> also I think I know why it can't be placed on a free tile. It needs a home town to work and free tiles don't link to any towns, while houses got a town "owner" 19:31:32 <Sacro> lol 19:31:34 <Bjarni> or something like that 19:31:53 <Bjarni> well, it's my theory, but I haven't checked the source to verify it 19:32:31 <Tron> it's wrong 19:32:40 <jcs> http://media.psjl.de/images/Watertower.png 19:32:47 <jcs> that shows my situation 19:32:57 <Bjarni> Tron: ok, then why is it like this? 19:33:25 <jcs> i wanted to build it at those signs that doesn't worker.. on houses neither. 19:33:40 <Tron> because someone was too lazy to properly define what "in a town" means 19:35:18 <Tron> jcs: for the last time: it you can't build on bought land or anywhere else _except houses_ 19:35:47 <Bjarni> jcs: something completely different. Why do you have a steam locomotive in the rear of your train? Usually steam trains with more than one engine got all engines right after each other in the front 19:36:31 <Bjarni> jcs: and if you want it like you did, then turn the last one (control click it) if your version if new enough to support that. I can't remember if that feature is in 0.4.7 or just the nightly builds 19:36:48 <jcs> Tron: i see but i also tried it on houses and i'll never try it on plain land again ;) 19:37:18 <Bjarni> <Tron> jcs: for the last time: it you can't build on bought land or anywhere else _except houses_ <-- I just made a savegame where I can't build a water tower on a house 19:37:27 <jcs> Bjani: oh.. im green in that game ;-P 19:38:04 <Bjarni> jcs: ok, then do somebody you play with violate his steam trains? 19:38:06 <Bjarni> :P 19:38:33 <Tron> Bjarni: so? 19:39:27 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:39:28 <Bjarni> Tron: so I got a town with no water tower and I can't build one. I tried most if not all of the houses and they all refuse because another industry is too close 19:39:46 <Bjarni> but the town do not have an industry within the town 19:39:53 <peter1138> does not 19:39:58 <Bjarni> there is one 5-10 tiles away from it though 19:40:03 <Bjarni> +es 19:40:07 <peter1138> then the error is valid 19:40:33 <Bjarni> but that would leave that town without water access and it can never grow 19:40:40 <peter1138> "you must build a water tower on houses" doesn't mean "building a water tower on houses will always work" 19:41:28 <Tron> yep, A => B =/> B => A 19:41:35 <Bjarni> I know 19:42:02 <Bjarni> but it sounds like a bug to me that towns can be in the desert without a water tower 19:42:28 <Bjarni> people would die quickly without water access in a desert 19:42:37 <peter1138> bottled water ;d 19:42:50 <Bjarni> we will run a test on the next person to object to this 19:42:55 <jcs> yes.. they do :(... Paderheim is shrinking ;-P 19:43:09 <hylje> objection ! 19:43:11 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:43:11 <peter1138> anyway, what happened to 0.4.8rc1 this weekend? 19:43:17 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 19:43:25 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:43:28 <jcs> no.. its not but.. its very little in relation to Holzdorf 19:43:28 <hylje> hmm, it lost in time? 19:43:36 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@203.101.4.246] has quit ["Sleep"] 19:43:44 * Bjarni sends hylje into a house in the middle of a desert without any water 19:43:56 <Bjarni> hylje: see you in 4 weeks 19:43:59 <hylje> :o 19:44:01 <hylje> nice 19:44:11 <jcs> well.. anyway. Thx and.. this game really rocks! :-) 19:44:43 <hylje> o rly? 19:45:05 <hylje> but well, we havent seen too many of the "whine whine whine bitch whine" people here 19:45:14 <Bjarni> jcs: who says that we agrees with that and wants to hear your opinion? 19:45:44 <Bjarni> what if it is actually a channel of OpenTTD haters? 19:46:00 <Bjarni> did you consider that possibility? 19:46:16 * Sacro quickly grabs #Bjarni 19:46:25 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim9@81.166.137.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:46:25 <numerodix> newbie question: where is (or how do I find) the logic for the CloneVehicle function? I've traced it to command.h where it's mapped to a number 116 and now I've no idea what to do with that :/ 19:46:29 * hylje joins Sacro 19:46:51 <Sacro> damn, he's there 19:47:02 <ln-> Bjarni: it's evil to send a native water animal to a desert without water. 19:47:05 <Tron> numerodix: enum CMD_NAME -> function CmdName() 19:47:10 <jcs> well.. i think they must have hacked the openttd.org site where this channel is <openttd_slang> advertised </openttd_slang>, or no... i got that wrong on that site ;-P 19:47:13 <Tron> grep for the function name then 19:47:27 <numerodix> oh... 19:47:54 <Bjarni> <ln-> Bjarni: it's evil to send a native water animal to a desert without water. <-- I know, but he asked for it 19:48:01 <Tron> it's probably in vehicle.c 19:48:37 <Bjarni> <numerodix> newbie question: where is (or how do I find) the logic for the CloneVehicle function? I've traced it to command.h where it's mapped to a number 116 and now I've no idea what to do with that :/ <-- it's in vehicle.c 19:48:38 <Tron> compiling gcc eats more memory than a small memory eating animal... 19:48:56 <Bjarni> search for CmdClone and you will find it quickly 19:48:59 <peter1138> . o O ( gentoo ) 19:49:10 <Tron> peter1138: me? 19:49:12 <numerodix> Tron&Bjarni: found it, thanks. was looking in the wrong place clearly 19:49:36 <peter1138> Tron: i hope not ;) 19:49:41 <Tron> peter1138: surly not 19:49:42 <peter1138> i tried gentoo once 19:49:46 <peter1138> it was so painful 19:49:49 <Tron> FreeBSD here 19:49:51 <hylje> gentoo is fun 19:50:10 <Tron> gentoo is mostly outdated 19:50:15 <hylje> currently running it on 2 servers and this desktop 19:50:31 <hylje> well, gentoo stable is rather outdated 19:50:40 <hylje> i find unstable to be rather recent 19:50:46 <Tron> peter1138: i'm just have an up-to-date gcc 4.1 around for testing 19:50:52 * peter1138 nods 19:51:03 <peter1138> hmm, i've got 2.95 and 4.0 19:51:24 <Bjarni> I got 3.1, 3.3 and 4.0.1 19:51:25 <Tron> hylje: i've seen gentoo unstable have older versions than debian testing. that impressed me somehow 19:51:29 <Bjarni> II think 19:51:34 <Bjarni> -I 19:52:07 <Tron> 3.4.4 as system compiler here and the latest 4.1.2 (20060602) snapshot compiling right now 20:00:00 *** Scia [n=sciapode@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:07:07 <Tron> peter1138: any ideas about oldloader.c? 20:07:43 *** iridium is now known as iridium`nh 20:08:39 <peter1138> rip it out? :) 20:09:43 *** numerodix [n=Martin@53533CCB.cable.casema.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:10:17 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:10:28 <Tron> that's a method which would probably work with most problems. but let's consider the hypothetical idea i don't want to lose the ability to load TTD savegames 20:10:51 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 20:11:19 <Eddi|zuHause> work? 20:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> it's sunday evening? 20:11:27 <KUDr_wrk> VNC 20:11:40 <KUDr_wrk> testing ottd server 20:12:30 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: VNC is codename for fooling you. Should we kick him for trying to fool you? 20:12:50 <KUDr> hehe 20:15:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that would be a good idea ;) 20:15:47 <Dred_furst> Hey 20:16:03 <Eddi|zuHause> we need somebody for PBS ;) 20:17:53 <XeryusTC> get HackyKid 20:18:04 <Dred_furst> ho good is PBS? 20:18:07 <Dred_furst> *how 20:18:37 <XeryusTC> it is good for people that don't know how to properly use presignals 20:19:04 <Dred_furst> heh 20:19:08 <Hackykid> and it was also good for people who knew exactly how it worked :-) 20:19:34 <Hackykid> cause for those it indeed had more power than presignals 20:19:53 <XeryusTC> most people just made ugly junctions with it 20:20:13 <Dred_furst> lol 20:20:24 <hylje> ugly junctions ftl 20:20:33 <Eddi|zuHause> PBS was really good for one way lines with switching sections 20:20:42 <Eddi|zuHause> not one way 20:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> one track 20:20:52 <Dred_furst> lol 20:21:08 <Eddi|zuHause> because of the selective presignalling 20:22:39 * Eddi|zuHause points out that the last few lines of Dred_furst almost exclusively consisted of 3 letters 20:22:50 <Dred_furst> Im playing OTTD :) 20:23:25 <hylje> :) 20:25:34 *** ^Cartman [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-1501.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:25:58 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-1501.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:28:51 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:39 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 20:44:21 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:44:58 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:47:31 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:50:32 *** jcs [n=jcs@i5387C7CF.versanet.de] has quit [] 20:57:21 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 20:57:24 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 21:00:54 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:01:22 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 21:05:08 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:13:07 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Reboot reboot reboot!"] 21:14:16 *** valhallazzzw is now known as valhallasw 21:15:00 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 21:17:56 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:05 <Sacro> quiet in here tonight 21:20:11 <lws1984> aye 21:20:31 <Sacro> arrghh! :P 21:20:36 * Sacro needs an NFO guy 21:20:47 <Born_Acorn> buy one from the store. 21:21:03 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: its a sunday, they're all shut 21:24:20 *** Zerot_ is now known as Zerot 21:25:38 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:26:31 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.105.21] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"] 21:26:41 <lws1984> woo, really dead in here 21:26:45 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-202-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 21:26:58 <lws1984> no, it was him ---> 21:26:59 <lws1984> :p 21:30:29 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:30:32 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 21:32:32 *** DJMirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 21:32:57 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 21:36:30 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 21:39:16 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 21:40:25 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5106 /branch/0.4/pathfind.c: 21:40:25 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r4964): 21:40:25 <CIA-3> Fix NTP over bridges: don't check the rail type when on a bridge 21:42:54 <Sacro> whoo commitage 21:44:55 <ln-> network time protocol? 21:45:59 *** ohyeah [n=ohyeah@ns.spirit.ee] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:46:49 <Darkvater> New Train Pathfinder 21:50:26 <Sacro> ln-: saves the train driver carrying a watch 21:51:34 *** amix [n=Michal@202.80-203-43.nextgentel.com] has quit ["6x Raisin-Noisettes Raisin-Nuts"] 21:58:50 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5107 /branch/0.4/macros.h: 21:58:50 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r5085, r5088): 21:58:50 <CIA-3> Add parentheses to CHANCE16*() macro parameters 22:01:48 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 22:02:13 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:54 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5108 /branch/0.4/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 22:02:54 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r5092): 22:02:54 <CIA-3> There was a gross race condition in the AI code which made it pretty random 22:02:54 <CIA-3> if the AI could give a new vehicle its orders 22:04:00 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5109 /branch/0.4/ai/trolly/trolly.c: 22:04:00 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r5097): 22:04:00 <CIA-3> The trolly AI used information from the wrong industry when calculating the 22:04:00 <CIA-3> amount of to be transported goods 22:11:42 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:12:23 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 22:14:57 *** fusee [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 22:16:31 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498F2AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:20:37 *** egladil [n=egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [] 22:21:23 *** egladil [n=egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 22:26:17 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-233-95.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:27:23 *** ^Cartman [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-1501.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:30:55 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Tacos!"] 22:32:36 *** fusey [i=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:32:37 *** fusee is now known as fusey 22:34:31 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1670.lns2-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:34:51 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-233-95.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:34:58 <CIA-3> Darkvater * r5110 /branch/0.4/lang/ (20 files): 22:34:58 <CIA-3> - Backport from trunk (r's and lots of it): 22:34:58 <CIA-3> Language changes. Galician (67 missing!) and Icelandic (20 missing) are bad off. 22:34:58 <CIA-3> Spanish, Norwegian, Brazilian-Portugese (2 missing) and Slovak (1 missing). 22:37:58 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["good night"] 22:47:13 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181110064.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 23:00:39 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp15-87.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 23:05:27 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:15:49 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 23:23:04 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:25:56 <Sacro> hey Brianetta 23:26:48 <Brianetta> yes 23:26:49 <Brianetta> hey 23:27:05 <Darkvater> < sleep 23:28:35 <Sacro> its quiet in here tonight 23:29:31 * lws1984 turns up the volume on his radio 23:29:36 *** lws1984 is now known as Radio 23:29:44 <Eddi|zuHause> somehow you say that every night, it seems ;) 23:29:48 <Radio> I KNOW IT'S ONLY ROCK AND ROLL 23:29:51 <Radio> BUT I LIKE IT!! 23:29:59 <Radio> :p 23:30:02 *** Radio is now known as lws1984 23:30:30 <Eddi|zuHause> funny that you say that, beacause... 23:30:42 * Eddi|zuHause listens to Loudermilk - Rock 'N' Roll & The Teenage Desparation 23:30:59 <lws1984> lol 23:34:13 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:34:52 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77379.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:36:45 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 23:39:03 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallazzzw 23:39:18 <RichK67> eddi: you will be pleased to hear: TGP industries no longer destroys towns.... 23:39:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have read that ;) 23:39:49 <RichK67> and the mountain-tops look stunning :) 23:40:16 <RichK67> ill do an upload to the thread in the next few minutes with latest 23:40:43 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["leaving"] 23:41:38 <Brianetta> RichK67: COmmit to nightly 23:41:41 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:41:45 <Brianetta> It *is* a testing branch 23:42:27 <RichK67> i could, but i would probably lose my upload priviledges(??) 23:42:33 <Brianetta> nah 23:42:48 <Brianetta> Lots of commits makes the team look dedicated 23:42:57 <RichK67> it *may* make MiniIN 23:45:31 <Sacro> hmm,its suspicious when he wont commit it to his own branch 23:45:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> why wouldn't it be in the miniIN? 23:45:53 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACBCE656.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 23:46:00 <Sacro> i fancy a miniin server with UKRS and LU 23:46:16 <lws1984> UKRS and LU cause conflicts 23:46:30 <lws1984> all you see is Central Line W&C stock 23:46:35 <lws1984> and teh rest is UKRS stuff 23:46:56 <Sacro> yes, im waiting for JVassie to change the replacements to between 90 and 9f 23:47:02 <lws1984> oh good 23:47:07 <lws1984> is that out of UKRS range? 23:49:38 <Sacro> yeah, according to Pikka 23:49:45 <RichK67> eddi: because I have built it against trunk, and it may not apply instantly to MiniIN... purely a "how tired am I tonite" factor 23:50:28 <Sacro> RichK67: merge it with trunk, and then update MiniIN against trunk... 23:50:36 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 23:51:46 <RichK67> no... :) 23:52:30 <Sacro> ahh it was worth asking 23:52:46 * Sacro considers modelling 96 tube stock 23:53:05 * lws1984 considers telling him that it's identical body to the 1995 stock 23:53:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> add it to trunk, sync miniIN and then revert the trunk change, so nobody notices ;) 23:53:13 <lws1984> ;) 23:53:38 <lws1984> JVassie should have just used the 1995 sprites we have, they look the same 23:54:50 <lws1984> but then, from a crowded platform, anything with a red front, red doors, and a blue stripe is pretty appealing :p 23:54:54 <Sacro> lws1984: A C and D stock all have the same bodies 23:54:58 <lws1984> no 23:55:02 <lws1984> A/C 23:55:02 <lws1984> yes 23:55:04 <lws1984> but D 23:55:04 <lws1984> no 23:55:05 <Sacro> lws1984: what if your on the W&C line? 23:55:12 <lws1984> welll, that's diffrent 23:55:18 <lws1984> but speaking generally 23:55:23 <lws1984> and it's got a blue stripe :p 23:55:27 <Sacro> i prefer the old stock myself 23:55:42 <Sacro> i might go model the O P R and S stock 23:55:50 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B7794B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:55:55 * lws1984 loves the 1959 stock 23:56:09 <lws1984> and the 38 was quite charming too 23:56:45 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a85-156-227-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 23:56:46 <lws1984> nothing like the sound of the crankshaft whirring, the Westinghouse belching, guard panels dinging, guards shouting, good times 23:56:47 <Sacro> wow, yeah, 59 is nice, i might do that next 23:57:07 <lws1984> i wish they refurbed them, they were great old trains 23:57:24 <lws1984> nothing like grabbing a window transverse seat 23:57:31 <lws1984> perfect height for resting teh elbow on 23:57:48 <Sacro> yeah 23:57:58 <lws1984> and the guards 23:58:05 <lws1984> gave it a personal touch 23:58:22 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 23:58:25 <lws1984> i always thought it would be fun to be a guard 23:59:23 <Sacro> http://www.squarewheels.org.uk/rly/stock/1959tubeStock/MDNfrmbrgLong.jpg 23:59:26 <lws1984> i know how to work a guard's panel, i'd always sit in that car and watch them work teh panel 23:59:34 <Sacro> yeah, seen some nice pics 23:59:38 <Sacro> thinking of doing a train sim 23:59:39 <lws1984> morden! 23:59:49 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CB43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd