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00:00:09 <[Shaman]> use tortoise to find out the revision number 00:00:13 <glx> TheBlasphemer: there's something to change in VS but I don't know what 00:00:13 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:00:16 <[Shaman]> the revision string should then be r<number> 00:00:31 <TheBlasphemer> Hmm 00:00:36 <TheBlasphemer> at least I can stretch it along both monitors 00:01:09 <[Shaman]> glx: network.h == win 00:01:19 <Sacro> ftw :P 00:01:31 <Sacro> REV_HACK is what you need 00:01:34 <TheBlasphemer> so if I get tags/0.4.7 will that be identical to 0.4.7 ? 00:01:46 <Sacro> TheBlasphemer: yup 00:01:48 <[Shaman]> iirc, yeh 00:01:53 <glx> [Shaman]: oh yes didn't know that one 00:02:11 <TheBlasphemer> Ah, ok, I think I'll do that then ;) 00:02:16 <TheBlasphemer> DAMN! 00:02:24 <TheBlasphemer> 3200x1200 is a LOT of Transport Tycoon :P 00:02:47 <Sacro> too right 00:02:53 <Trenskow> hehe... i would imagine 00:03:02 <Trenskow> 12" 1024x768 here :) 00:03:11 <TheBlasphemer> Dual 21" rocks :P 00:03:20 <TheBlasphemer> Yet another reason to clean up my desk though 00:03:24 <TheBlasphemer> the toolbar is on the left monitor 00:03:33 <TheBlasphemer> while the only space left for my mouse and keyboard is on the right 00:03:33 <Sacro> move the toolbar 00:03:45 <Trenskow> well... nn all 00:03:46 <TheBlasphemer> Is that possible :o? 00:03:52 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 00:04:05 <[Shaman]> you can edit the widgets 00:04:12 <TheBlasphemer> Ah, I can put it right :) 00:04:13 * Sacro reckons TheBlasphemer hasnt found "Patch Options" 00:04:26 <TheBlasphemer> I did 00:04:30 <TheBlasphemer> I just didn't read em all ;) 00:05:01 <TheBlasphemer> Now I only gotta fix 00:05:19 <TheBlasphemer> "Grain production [big black bar] at Nonningston" ... :P 00:05:24 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B83A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 00:05:44 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has joined #openttd 00:05:57 <Trenskow> changed my mind... one cigarette and then bed :) 00:06:04 <TheBlasphemer> lol :P 00:06:19 <TheBlasphemer> How do I get the money-left date and newspaper bar somewhere else ;)? 00:06:40 <[Shaman]> move the widget 00:06:50 <Trenskow> (in the source) 00:07:14 <TheBlasphemer> So that does require source-messing-about ;)? 00:07:22 <Trenskow> :p 00:07:22 <[Shaman]> ofc 00:07:33 <[Shaman]> at least you can change the revision number then :p 00:07:34 <Sacro> dont think you can move that :( 00:07:46 <[Shaman]> Sacro: Afaik that's a widget as well :o 00:07:53 <Sacro> yup 00:07:59 <[Shaman]> widgets can be moved by source ;) 00:09:05 <TheBlasphemer> Any hints on which widget it is ;)? (like which source file) 00:09:32 <[Shaman]> look at the .c files with the name that shows the category it should fall under 00:09:39 <[Shaman]> else just open random .c files :P 00:09:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75EEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:10:09 <Sacro> lol 00:10:14 <Sacro> itll be a _gfx one 00:10:23 <[Shaman]> _gui? 00:11:17 <Sacro> most likely :P 00:15:11 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8F1DAF.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 00:15:58 <TheBlasphemer> Argh 00:16:01 <TheBlasphemer> I give up for today... 00:16:02 <TheBlasphemer> too late 00:17:20 <Sacro> lol 00:17:27 <Sacro> im trying to set up another cross compiler 00:17:42 <Trenskow> well of to bed ... nn 00:17:42 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 00:19:10 <glx> Sacro: for which target? 00:19:29 <Sacro> arm-elf 00:20:10 <glx> pocketPC or something like that? 00:20:56 <Sacro> Nintendo DS 00:21:20 <glx> AlexFili will be happy :P 00:21:49 <Sacro> yeah, i was going to do one months ago, but then i had a load of personal problems and never got round to it 00:21:49 <TheBlasphemer> hmmm 00:22:58 <Sacro> hmmm? 00:23:15 <glx> hmmm! 00:23:16 <TheBlasphemer> Just thinking about some dual-monitor things 00:23:41 <TheBlasphemer> I was wondering if it'd be possible to split OpenTTD into multiple windows that you could maximize on multiple screens 00:23:53 <TheBlasphemer> that way you wouldn't actually have to stretch accross all screens 00:24:00 <Sacro> network server and 2 clients? 00:24:10 <TheBlasphemer> hmmm... 00:24:13 <TheBlasphemer> Damn... 00:24:17 <TheBlasphemer> That's a good idea :P 00:24:30 <Sacro> wtf :o 00:24:36 <Sacro> CTCP TEEHEE :| 00:24:55 <lws1984> lol 00:24:56 <lws1984> teehee 00:25:01 <Sacro> damnit, ive been bitten 00:25:03 <TheBlasphemer> tomorrow I'm going to set up a dedicated server on my router anyway, so I'll see if I can pull that off :) 00:25:13 <Sacro> on your router? 00:25:31 <TheBlasphemer> Debian linux router/webserver/ftpserver/sambaserver/everythingserver ;) 00:25:49 <Sacro> ah right 00:27:41 <TheBlasphemer> Hmm 00:27:42 <TheBlasphemer> ok 00:27:52 <TheBlasphemer> major downside of two clients running the same company: 00:28:12 <TheBlasphemer> You can't tell a train to go from a station on screen 1 to a station on screen 2 :( 00:28:50 <Sacro> nope 00:29:07 <Sacro> i think its a whole area that needs redoing 00:29:22 <Sacro> kinda like x spanning 00:29:23 <TheBlasphemer> Maybe it'd be possible to un-dock extra viewports 00:30:10 <TheBlasphemer> Think that'd be possible? 00:30:23 <Sacro> yeah, if it could be handed off to the WM, or whatever 00:30:45 <TheBlasphemer> WM = Window Manager? 00:30:54 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 00:30:54 <Sacro> !logs 00:31:00 <Sacro> TheBlasphemer: yup 00:31:29 <TheBlasphemer> Hmmm, maybe I could look into that later :) 00:32:04 <TheBlasphemer> But now bedtime 00:32:10 <TheBlasphemer> It's 2:30AM ffs :P 00:32:30 <TheBlasphemer> Bye :) 00:32:35 *** TheBlasphemer [n=fw@hardijzer.demon.nl] has quit [] 00:34:49 <Sacro> hmm, 1:30 here 00:54:37 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 00:55:10 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-186-120.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 01:09:54 *** Spoco [i=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 01:21:32 *** Vornucopia [n=vorn@69.0.80.120] has joined #openttd 01:28:41 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:31:39 *** Vornotron [n=vorn@64-252-100-23.adsl.snet.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:37:10 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-183.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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Allow room for a single pixel overflow on the first engine when drawing a train's image. 07:07:33 <CIA-14> - Draw the depot highlight box after drawing all engines on a line, so that the box isn't hidden. 07:29:21 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 07:31:57 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:36:58 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.34] has joined #openttd 07:39:37 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.3 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"] 07:58:21 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:46 <Trenskow> It's done : http://bugs.openttd.org/task/213 08:04:48 <Trenskow> :D 08:09:36 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:16:13 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4474.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 08:27:07 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit [Connection timed out] 08:27:51 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 08:50:26 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 09:01:57 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 09:03:52 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 09:05:16 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 09:07:27 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 09:11:51 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 09:13:05 <TinoM|> Trenskow, nice. But with the patch applied my client doesn't show any servers on the list 09:13:25 <Trenskow> TinoM|, try to unclick "Same version" under advanced tab 09:13:36 <TinoM|> already done 09:13:37 <Trenskow> it's on by default 09:13:51 <Trenskow> that's wierd 09:14:19 <Trenskow> when everything unclicked, you don't get anything ? 09:14:20 *** jasts is now known as Qball 09:14:36 <TinoM|> i've one manually added server on my list, it is shown without the patch, but with the patch not. klicking on find servers doesn't work any more 09:15:04 <Trenskow> hehe... so it just fuck things up 09:15:11 <Trenskow> TinoM|, LAN or Internet ? 09:15:16 <TinoM|> mompl, i'll try again 09:15:21 <TinoM|> Internet, Trenskow 09:15:49 <TinoM|> hmm, eclipse has to rebuild the whole project every time :( 09:16:29 <Trenskow> works fine here... could it be an endian problem ? 09:16:31 <Trenskow> os x here 09:16:50 <Qball> Trenskow: nop.. works fine here 09:18:53 <TinoM|> ah, ok, now it is working here, too 09:18:58 <Trenskow> TinoM|, can't figure what's wrong 09:19:03 <Trenskow> what was the prob ? 09:19:15 <TinoM|> i am not sure, this time i've deleted my cfg 09:19:38 <Trenskow> wierd 09:20:04 <TinoM|> suggestion: it is not very easy to distinguish, wheter a button is pressed or not (eg server not full...) 09:20:33 <Trenskow> So change the button color on pressed ? 09:20:59 <Trenskow> could make it blue as unclicked (as window) and grey as clicked 09:21:56 <TinoM|> something like that, or a checkmark 09:21:59 <Trenskow> Qball, TinoM|, also made a 0.4.7 version of the patch 09:21:59 <Trenskow> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=456865#456865 09:22:29 <TinoM|> and i would disable all filters by default, so the ppl don'T wonder where their servers are gone ;) 09:23:59 <Trenskow> yea i was discussing it with bjarni, and he thought that same version and online was enabled by default 09:24:37 <TinoM|> yeah, perhaps you're right... 09:24:50 <Trenskow> but not full should be off by default 09:24:53 <TinoM|> anyone here using eclipse ? 09:25:07 <Trenskow> xcode here :S 09:25:30 <Qball> just make and vim 09:26:55 <Prof_Frink> you mean vim and :make 09:28:03 <Qball> hmmm no 09:28:14 <Qball> mostly just 2-3 terminals 09:28:53 * TinoM| can't install linux on his desktop -> no wpa for wireless :( . and developing on an 12''-laptop is ... ;) 09:29:32 <GoneWacko> Developing on a laptop in general is ... imo 09:29:41 <Qball> hmmm wpa works fine here on my laptop 09:29:43 <Qball> also wpa2 09:29:48 <Qball> on linux 09:29:52 <TinoM|> but i'll try again with an 32-bit-environment, then ndiswrapper should work 09:29:52 <GoneWacko> I do it for school but I tend to not do so when I don't have to 09:30:06 <TinoM|> wpa works fine on my laptop too, (ipw2200) 09:30:24 <Trenskow> GoneWacko, i develop on 12" :) 09:30:42 <TinoM|> but i can't get ndiswrapper or native drivers working for my wlan-pci-card in my desktop under 64-bit 09:31:00 <Qball> my desktops are jsut plain wired 09:31:28 <GoneWacko> my laptop is like a 19" or something, not sure. Anyway it's not so much the monitor but it's the keyboard, and of course the uncomfortable angle of your view :) 09:32:30 <TinoM|> so, got plenty of time now after my exam, where should i start to get familiar with the openttd-code? 09:32:43 <Trenskow> what's your oppinion... should the filter settings be saved ? 09:32:47 <peter1138> laptops-- 09:33:55 <Qball> my laptop has a 1400x1050 screen, better then my desktop 09:34:16 <Trenskow> 1024x768 12" powerbook here :) 09:34:32 <Qball> I realy wouldn't want to go back to 1024 09:35:08 <Trenskow> i actually like it 09:35:18 <Prof_Frink> 1024x768 here... 09:35:25 <Prof_Frink> ...and 800x480 here 09:35:25 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:35:56 <Qball> 1280x1024 on my Desktop 09:36:04 <Qball> and wanting my dual screen back 09:36:24 <peter1138> 2 * 1024x768 here :( 09:36:36 <Zaviori> 1280*2048 :-) 09:36:49 <peter1138> 2048x768, obviously 09:36:56 <peter1138> vertical spanning is just wrong ;p 09:38:03 <ln-> i have a patch for more comfortably running ottd on dual screen, but i suppose no one is interested. 09:38:24 <[Shaman]> ln-: increasing the max width/height ? :o 09:39:36 <ln-> comfortably = the toolbars & stuff are centered to the left screen, not on the edge of both screens. 09:39:37 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:39:44 <jnmbk> ln-: we may just run a co-op lan game with two instances of openttd in a dual screen computer 09:40:11 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:40:17 <[Shaman]> sweet :o 09:40:38 <peter1138> decent ottd dualscreen patch == two (or more) viewports 09:40:45 <peter1138> (linkable if desired) 09:42:25 <ln-> jnmbk: that's not my fault. 09:43:59 *** DaftDog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-235-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:46:59 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 09:53:34 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 09:54:57 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.188.212] has joined #openttd 09:56:31 <Sacro> morning all 09:56:49 <[Shaman]> lo 09:58:16 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has left #openttd [] 09:58:16 <Sacro> ; 09:58:23 <Sacro> :o is you 09:59:21 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:06:48 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:08:15 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has joined #openttd 10:09:54 *** egladil_ibook [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 10:10:05 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 10:20:18 *** egladil [n=egladil@h31n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:30:24 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:31:44 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [") td@projectjj.com - http://projectjj.com/ ("] 10:33:16 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.34] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:38:02 *** gigajum [i=lucy@dslb-084-056-147-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:46:23 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:48:01 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B832C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:55:00 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B832C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:55:31 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 10:58:13 *** DaftDog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-235-157.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 11:03:41 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.188.212] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 11:03:50 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has joined #openttd 11:07:04 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:08:04 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B83A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:08:43 *** jnmbk [n=jnmbk@85.104.145.85] has left #openttd ["Konversation terminated!"] 11:09:44 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.188.212] has joined #openttd 11:10:40 *** mgla [n=mgla@wikipedia/mgla] has quit [""Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness." - Terry Pratchett"] 11:12:39 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Work! I HATE WORK!"] 11:17:15 <Ihmemies> buying land with those small signs should be exponentially expensive 11:17:18 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 11:18:56 <gigajum> exponential to what? 11:19:12 <gigajum> people in the city? 11:20:53 *** ZsoL_ [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has joined #openttd 11:22:55 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 11:24:51 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:26:24 <Ihmemies> more signs, more expensive 11:26:29 <Ihmemies> bought land i mean 11:28:07 <gigajum> ic 11:29:52 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 11:33:34 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:35:15 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 11:35:23 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has joined #openttd 11:36:30 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:37:30 <Trenskow> Sacro, it's done 11:37:31 <Trenskow> :) 11:37:42 <Trenskow> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/213 11:37:42 * Sacro is curious as to what... 11:37:54 <Trenskow> the network filter i was doing.... 11:38:00 <Trenskow> hehe... thought you knew :) 11:38:28 <Sacro> :D yeah, im sorry i got a lot on my mind having seen todays post 11:38:56 <Trenskow> what happenened in todays post ? 11:38:58 <Trenskow> :) 11:39:38 <Sacro> well, errm, i owe the council £800 council tax on a place i dont live, and £700 for somewhere i used to live 11:39:57 <Sacro> and i got a letter saying my benefits have been paid nicely, thus i shouldny 11:40:09 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4474.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 11:40:14 <Trenskow> hmmm... nasty 11:40:32 <Sacro> errm...benefits cancelled because i moved...makes sense 11:40:57 <Trenskow> ahh ok... i see 11:41:04 <Sacro> but why should i pay council tax on somewhere im not living 11:41:16 <Sacro> in esscence im funding the council who are being idiots 11:41:27 <Trenskow> hehe :) 11:41:32 <Trenskow> aren't they always ? 11:41:41 <Sacro> yes 11:41:53 <Sacro> but they took me to court and didnt tell me :( 11:42:05 <Sacro> would have been a nice day out too 11:42:27 <Trenskow> to court without notifying you ? 11:42:36 <Trenskow> thats insane 11:44:12 <Sacro> they sent the letter to my flat i presume, but they put a steel door over mine so i dont have a letterbox 11:44:28 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:44:41 <Sacro> im just wondering if i have a legal standpoint from the view that "it wasnt sent to my last known address" 11:45:54 <XeryusTC> Sacro: they took you to court because you didn't pay tax for a place where you don't live anymore? 11:46:05 <Sacro> XeryusTC: thats about it 11:46:46 <XeryusTC> you'll probably win that one ;) 11:46:49 <Sacro> i moved out on the 26th of march, but i still had stuff there till 10th june, but it wasnt where i was living 11:47:45 <Sacro> XeryusTC: nope, they've taken me to court (past tense) 11:48:09 <XeryusTC> you still own the place? 11:48:29 <Sacro> rented 11:50:15 <XeryusTC> that makes you live there officially 11:50:41 <Sacro> i had a load of trouble, got burgled a few times and the place got trashed 11:51:17 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:51:50 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:56:15 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 11:56:53 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has joined #openttd 12:09:54 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:15:17 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@83.135.204.98] has quit ["Verlassend"] 12:15:29 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3F3F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:16:46 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 12:16:54 <roboman> gnight 12:17:05 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 12:17:30 <Sacro> roboman: night 12:17:36 <Trenskow> roboman, nn :) 12:17:52 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:17:54 *** roboman is now known as robobed 12:18:37 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CC62.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:18:41 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.188.212] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 12:21:07 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:22:58 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Disappearing /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\"] 12:28:04 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3CFAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:34:06 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 12:35:31 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588ada.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:35:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 12:37:40 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 12:43:19 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 12:43:20 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:43:48 *** Dicope [n=Dicope2@i5387D0F3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:43:54 <Dicope> hi 12:44:12 <Dicope> i've seen a webpage with a list of OTTD patches 12:44:21 <Dicope> but i had to reinstall windows and i lost my history 12:44:33 <Dicope> anyone knows about that page? 12:44:48 <peter1138> yeah, richk was involved i think 12:45:45 <Dicope> this doesn't really help me. :) 12:45:48 <peter1138> :) 12:45:56 <peter1138> it might when he's around ;p 12:50:16 <Ihmemies> he wants it not! 12:50:17 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:50:18 <Ihmemies> *now 12:50:31 *** Zaviori [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:53:47 *** Mucht|work [n=Mucht@62-99-243-225.geidorf.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 12:54:51 *** Zavior [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:58:54 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 12:59:36 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["*boom*"] 13:04:07 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-157-139.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:04:13 <Belugas> good day 13:04:19 <peter1138> hello 13:05:08 <hylje> HI 13:05:21 <Sacro> hey 13:05:45 <Belugas> heyho Sacro 13:05:57 <Belugas> HiHo hylje 13:06:01 <Sacro> hey Belugas 13:06:22 <Belugas> tourlou peter1138 13:07:15 <Bjarni> hi people 13:07:31 <Bjarni> it appears to be greeting time again :) 13:07:53 <Sacro> hi Bjarni 13:07:54 <Belugas> Greetings Ho to you, Bjarni! 13:08:43 <Sacro> yay, £650 debt sorted 13:08:45 <CIA-14> peter1138 * r5319 /branch/newgrf_lab/: [newgrf_lab] - New branch for collaboration and development of NewGRF features. 13:10:22 <Bjarni> Sacro: your loan shark is sleeping with the fishes? 13:11:41 <Bjarni> heh, I just read /branch/newgrf_lab and I wondered "hey, I can't recall we got a branch named that" and then I read the line and it suddenly made sense 13:12:05 <Sacro> Bjarni: not quite, my benfits finally went throuhg 13:12:12 <Sacro> now to sort out the other £800 13:12:47 <peter1138> "fuck off you fucking cocks" will do the trick, i reckon 13:12:56 <Sacro> peter1138: yeah, possibly 13:13:09 <hylje> :o 13:13:15 <Sacro> gnome is borked again 13:13:31 <peter1138> egdy's still borked :( 13:13:39 <Sacro> brb 13:13:43 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-157-139.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 13:14:10 <hylje> my gnome isnt borked 13:14:13 *** Damme__ [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:15:49 <Bjarni> hylje: well, it appears that Sacro is working his gnomes too hard 13:16:00 <CIA-14> peter1138 * r5320 /trunk/newgrf_engine.c: - NewGRF: make sets using TTDPatch's train reversing hack/feature happier (and consistent) by returning 0 for the flag it uses. 13:19:59 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B80E1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:20:46 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/61017 <-- nomatter how good the software is, it can never prevent stupid users from having serious problems with it :P 13:21:40 <[Shaman]> lol 13:21:46 <XeryusTC> omfg 13:21:56 * XeryusTC mumbles something about n00bs :P 13:22:40 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-240-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:23:26 <Sacro> if in doubt, add more deamons 13:24:01 <Bjarni> what? 13:24:18 <Bjarni> you can't even spell demons, you satanistic punk??? 13:24:27 <Sacro> it seems that GNOME was having trouble starting esd, so i started it up on boot 13:25:37 <XeryusTC> Sacro: isn't it daemons? :P 13:25:56 <Sacro> and ive just discovered i can enter text in hex using CTRL+SHIFT in gedit 13:26:24 <glx> XeryusTC: yes it's a sound server 13:26:46 <Sacro> its that strange ae character i cant do 13:26:47 <XeryusTC> glx: that was a retorical question... 13:26:55 <XeryusTC> æ? 13:27:17 <Sacro> æ 13:27:25 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B80E1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:27:28 <Sacro> XeryusTC: yeah, that one 13:27:44 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 13:27:47 <XeryusTC> ctrl+alt+z :) 13:27:53 <Bjarni> Sacro: æ? 13:28:04 <Bjarni> it's simple 13:28:12 <Sacro> Bjarni: that looks totally different 13:28:14 <Bjarni> it's the key right of l and left of ø 13:28:34 <Sacro> thats 195 and 166 13:28:45 <Sacro> Bjarni: i dont have that kind of key 13:28:55 <Bjarni> no, I mean how to type it without using hex values 13:29:04 <Sacro> right of | is z 13:29:06 <XeryusTC> time for a mirc upgrade, i still dont have utf8 support :( 13:29:13 <peter1138> dæmons 13:29:14 <peter1138> hmm 13:29:16 <Sacro> i dont have utf in ksirc 13:29:24 <peter1138> ksirc-- then 13:29:51 <Bjarni> Sacro: I said right of l (lowercase L), not pipe :P 13:30:04 <Sacro> ooh 13:30:12 <peter1138> right of l is ; 13:30:15 <Sacro> yup 13:30:24 <Bjarni> hmm 13:30:30 <Bjarni> this could be interesting 13:30:44 <Bjarni> try to change your keyboard layout to Danish and press the ; button 13:30:45 <peter1138> æ is altgr+a for me 13:30:53 <Bjarni> it should then print æ 13:31:43 <Sacro> ooh, someone try utf8 now :D 13:32:13 <Bjarni> æøå 13:32:14 <Sacro> i think ive changed default encoding 13:32:15 <XeryusTC> æp 13:32:17 <peter1138> like æ 13:32:18 <Bjarni> ?? 13:32:20 <peter1138> or EUR 13:32:24 <peter1138> or even £ 13:32:44 <Bjarni> äö?<« 13:32:55 <Bjarni> ?...ç??ñ 13:32:58 <Sacro> yay :D UTF8ness 13:32:58 <Bjarni> good enough? 13:33:05 *** rain```` [i=rain@24-183-26-9.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 13:33:11 <Bjarni> ¿ 13:33:12 <Sacro> changed the default encoding and we're away 13:33:22 <Sacro> thats alt+0191 13:33:37 <Bjarni> ¿ <-- I guess that's Australian for a question 13:33:47 * Bjarni hides from all Spanish people in here 13:33:50 <glx> lol 13:34:08 <XeryusTC> ¿ 13:34:26 <XeryusTC> that upside down questionmark looks weird in this font 13:34:26 <Bjarni> hmm 13:34:35 <glx> XeryusTC: not utf8 client? 13:34:37 <Bjarni> it kind of looks like a hook on a crane or something like that 13:34:39 <Sacro> XeryusTC: i dont see them :( 13:35:10 <Sacro> now to figure out how to write in utf8 13:35:17 <XeryusTC> glx: no, i still need to upgrade to a version that supports utf8 13:35:28 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 13:36:34 <Sacro> hmm, altgr + a takes me to #apache 13:36:59 <Sacro> ooh, keyboard shortcuts 13:38:02 <XeryusTC> lol 13:38:53 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B832C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:39:00 <Frostregen> @gigajum: here? 13:39:56 <Sacro> he aint no op :P 13:40:37 <Frostregen> :P 13:40:52 <Sacro> gigajum: PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGG 13:41:00 <gigajum> what? 13:41:06 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B832C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:41:07 <Sacro> Frostregen: he's here :P 13:41:08 <gigajum> let me read the lines 13:41:10 <Frostregen> hmm, the ping works ;) 13:41:24 <gigajum> nope only highlight on $me 13:41:25 <Frostregen> just a comment to your post 13:41:30 <Frostregen> ah, k 13:42:05 <Frostregen> the "bulldoze before paste" option is intended for pasting over existing rail 13:42:15 <Frostregen> then the signals will be right 13:42:28 <gigajum> yeah but i have not enough money? 13:42:44 <Frostregen> then copy&paste is not a good option anyway 13:43:01 <gigajum> yeah i noticed that 13:44:02 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:43 <gigajum> but the estimated cost "warning" is still incorrect :( 13:47:04 <Frostregen> its just the cost from the last build piece of whatever 13:47:17 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@pantheonsgade.boomtown.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:55 <Frostregen> should be possible to make it better... i'll look into it 13:48:01 <gigajum> anyway it's wrong :) 13:48:23 <Trenskow> Bjarni, have you seen my patch is done ? 13:48:28 <Trenskow> i'm quite proud : 13:48:29 <Trenskow> D 13:49:08 <Trenskow> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/213 13:50:33 <valhalla`hiding> nice Trenskow 13:51:23 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-139.res.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:52:02 <Trenskow> valhalla`hiding, thx 13:56:57 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:57:23 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B808B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:57:32 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-139.res.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:59:27 *** Dicope [n=Dicope2@i5387D0F3.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:00:51 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B808B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:02:16 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:02:52 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 14:03:24 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@pantheonsgade.boomtown.net] has quit [] 14:07:25 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 14:08:36 <Sacro> currency NOK :|? 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Work is over now. :) 14:52:26 *** glx is now known as glx|away 14:53:41 *** tron [n=tron@p54A3F3F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:55 *** tron is now known as Tron 14:54:41 <_bitwise> Sacro: oi mate 14:54:44 <_bitwise> is that better? 14:54:46 <Sacro> yeah? 14:54:55 <Sacro> frappe? 14:55:04 <_bitwise> better than "what's shakin" :P 14:55:07 <Sacro> sorry, was just perusing the form 14:55:18 <Sacro> lol, yeah OI does the job 14:55:19 <_bitwise> oh, its this uhm.. greek phenomenon.. iced coffee type thing. 14:55:44 <_bitwise> addictive little buggers :| 14:57:40 <Sacro> lol 14:57:42 <Sacro> i dont nlike coffe 14:57:43 <Sacro> e 15:02:18 <_bitwise> hmm, the old school competition sabatoge technique of sticking a depot/train on the back of one of their depots doesn't seem to work any more. 15:02:31 <_bitwise> Or am I mistaken? 15:02:55 <peter1138> it's fixed, yes 15:04:25 <_bitwise> sooo.. where can I find some good compeition sabatoge techniques with openttd? :) 15:04:50 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:05:55 <peter1138> flooding, if you can manage it 15:06:04 <peter1138> blocking's pretty obvious 15:06:38 <[Shaman]> why would you want to sabotage anyways 15:06:52 <[Shaman]> i mean, in the same time you can earn 3 times as much money as that his company is worth, and take him over :P 15:07:12 <_bitwise> hmm 15:07:15 <_bitwise> that's an idea. 15:08:06 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:08:12 <_bitwise> do new competitors come in when you take over one? 15:08:13 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:36 <_bitwise> god what a mess, I just inherited a nightmare :) 15:08:47 <_bitwise> hmm, and the answer is yes, a new one comes 15:09:28 <Brianetta> [16:58] <Sacro> i dont nlike coffe 15:09:34 <Brianetta> Coffee helps your spelling 15:14:02 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8F1DAF.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 15:20:45 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSLrEF0sF4 :D 15:22:44 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:22:57 <[Shaman]> what rev was 0.4.7 again? 15:23:01 <[Shaman]> (approx) 15:23:21 <Sacro> lol 15:23:26 <Sacro> i dunno :S 15:24:20 <peter1138> 4121 15:30:14 <Bjarni> Sacro: I didn't know that you are red o_O 15:30:21 <Sacro> Bjarni: eh? 15:30:54 <Bjarni> you posted a movie about yourself... 15:31:15 <[Shaman]> o_o 15:31:28 <Sacro> did i? 15:31:29 <Sacro> :S 15:31:31 <Sacro> im confused 15:31:37 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-550.wfd84a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:31:54 <Bjarni> <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSLrEF0sF4 15:32:11 <Sacro> noo, thats Mr Greedy 15:32:11 <Bjarni> maybe you got a leak in your short time memory 15:32:48 <Bjarni> <Sacro> noo, thats Mr Greedy <-- yeah, and who do you think they based him of? 15:32:59 <Sacro> :o, that was years before my time 15:33:31 <Bjarni> both yes and no 15:33:48 <Bjarni> you can't claim that the time machine will not be invented before you are dead 15:34:02 <Sacro> oh i can 15:34:26 <Prof_Frink> 'cause you *are* dead! 15:34:35 <Sacro> :S 15:36:00 *** glx|away is now known as glx 15:44:08 <Bjarni> Brianetta: railphone? 15:44:20 <Bjarni> you mean you got a direct line to the railroad at each crossing? 15:44:52 <Brianetta> Yes 15:45:06 <Brianetta> except on some pedestrian crossings in remote places 15:45:18 <Bjarni> we don't have those at all 15:45:40 <Qball> here the railroad company has it's own telephone network 15:45:41 <Brianetta> So how do you get the trains stopped if a bus breaks down on the crossing? 15:45:42 <Qball> all fiber 15:45:57 <Brianetta> Aside from, "put a bus in front of it?" 15:46:48 <Bjarni> <Brianetta> So how do you get the trains stopped if a bus breaks down on the crossing? <-- you fix the bus and moves it... how hard can it be? 15:46:59 <Bjarni> besides you don't break down in crossings 15:47:03 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 15:47:09 <Bjarni> that's a train only thing :P 15:47:14 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: The express is due in 5 mins. 15:47:15 <Zavior> Thats good advice 15:47:19 <Brianetta> Bjarni: Breakdowns happen on crossings, momemts before the barriers fall. 15:47:23 <Brianetta> It's sod's law. 15:47:27 <Zavior> Almost as goods as "dont stop a chainsaw with your genitals" 15:47:45 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-240-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 15:48:19 <Qball> don;t put your child in the microwave 15:50:55 *** GoneWacko[LAN] [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:51:46 *** GoneWacko[LAN] is now known as GoneWacko^ 15:55:04 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:56:42 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["in /dev/null no one can hear you scream"] 15:57:58 *** black_Nightmare [i=Husky_dr@ppp235.109-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 15:58:00 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E848.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 15:58:09 *** gigajum [i=lucy@dslb-084-056-147-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 15:58:55 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:59:01 *** GoneWacko^ is now known as GoneWacko 15:59:49 *** Zimri [i=Zimri@cpc1-ely13-0-0-cust1001.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:02:35 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:02:41 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 16:04:11 <black_Nightmare> anyone want play a small quick game? its named 'dragon's small server' ... mind you that the modem quitted for no reason so the server is 56K access hence small map size ^_^ 16:04:21 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 16:05:33 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-240-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:08:17 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DD3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:08:56 <Ihmemies> 56k, I had isdn 6 years ago :P 16:09:23 <black_Nightmare> well point was...I kinda wanted to play with someone but the connection I'm on now forces a small map 16:09:28 <black_Nightmare> so far..I'm lonely :-S 16:09:29 <black_Nightmare> heh 16:11:47 <peter1138> hmm 16:12:00 <peter1138> is there some way of removing files from svn but not removing the local copy? 16:12:30 <Belugas> svn delete ? 16:12:41 <Belugas> worked for me previously 16:12:43 <Belugas> if guess 16:12:50 <glx> svn delete url 16:13:00 <moebius_> mv file file.washere && svn rm file && mv file.washere file 16:13:03 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:13:09 <black_Nightmare> ihmemies..if you want to join just to look...thats fine..as long as there's someone else than me alone on my server :p 16:13:11 <moebius_> (never fails) 16:14:06 <peter1138> Belugas: svn delete removes the local copy 16:14:18 <peter1138> ah fuck it, they'll get generated anyway 16:14:18 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-240-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 16:15:27 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-61-23.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:15:38 <moebius_> svn sometimes behaves in funny ways... that's why I use bzr myself ;-) 16:16:20 *** A1win^ [i=a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 16:18:59 <black_Nightmare> hm someone named Player joined then suddenly left.. :-S 16:19:54 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 16:20:04 <Belugas> peter1138 : you are right, of course. Why not make a copy of that file before runnning svn? then, reinsert it :D 16:21:20 <Belugas> I jusst remember : doing the same in TortoiseSVN (Delete) does NOT remove the file, it is just removed from the versionning system 16:21:46 <peter1138> bzzzt. tortoisesvn *does* remove the file, and also fucks itself totally 16:21:59 <peter1138> (i keep getting locks, and errors accessing tmp...) 16:22:36 *** A1win [i=a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:23:41 <Belugas> hu?? 16:23:46 <peter1138> quite 16:24:34 * Belugas wonders how many versionning systems are on his system.. 16:26:42 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-240-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:26:50 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)"] 16:26:56 <peter1138> maybe my tortoisesvn needs updating 16:27:16 *** black_Nightmare [i=Husky_dr@ppp235.109-253-207.mtl.mt.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 16:27:46 <Belugas> I want to go home 16:27:55 <Belugas> take off this uniform and leave the show 16:28:34 <Prof_Frink> Belugas is listening to Pink Floyd - Stop 16:29:04 * Belugas is impressed :D 16:32:12 <Bjarni> <Brianetta> Bjarni: Breakdowns happen on crossings, momemts before the barriers fall. <-- well, then the vehicle will be hit by the barrier, which will result in a warning to the train driver => the train slows down enough to be able to stop before the crossing 16:32:18 <Bjarni> sorry about the long reply time 16:32:24 <Bjarni> I got a real life 16:32:33 <Bjarni> I just manage to hide it very well from IRC ;) 16:32:46 <Bjarni> oops, Brianetta left :( 16:33:30 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: and if the vehicle breaks down between the barriers rather than under them? 16:33:57 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: increase to ramming speed 16:34:19 <Prof_Frink> No, that's how HSTs get broken 16:35:04 <Bjarni> the odds for that is.... well I don't think that ever happened 16:35:39 <Bjarni> once a car was parked on the track in a way to avoid the barriers, but that didn't fool the train and it stopped anyway 16:35:53 *** valhalla`hiding is now known as valhallasw 16:36:10 <Bjarni> valhallasw: give me your lunch money 16:36:18 <valhallasw> or else what? 16:36:27 * valhallasw eats up Bjarni 16:36:31 <Bjarni> or else you better go back to hiding 16:36:58 <Bjarni> valhallasw: are you in or not? 16:37:27 <valhallasw> Bjarni, dead men don't talk. 16:37:41 * Bjarni shoots valhallasw 16:37:43 <Bjarni> good point 16:37:54 <Bjarni> and interesting last words 16:37:55 <valhallasw> you missed 16:37:56 <valhallasw> moron 16:38:05 <Bjarni> hmm 16:38:08 *** Mucht|work [n=Mucht@62-99-243-225.geidorf.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 16:38:09 * valhallasw grabs his hitman sniper rifle 16:38:10 <Bjarni> then who did I kill? 16:38:14 * valhallasw aims at Bjarni's head 16:38:21 * Bjarni shoots valhallasw 16:38:21 <valhallasw> Mucht, I guess 16:38:27 * valhallasw kills DaleStan 16:38:29 <valhallasw> whoops 16:38:35 * Bjarni shoots valhallasw 16:38:38 <Bjarni> and hits 16:38:42 <valhallasw> yes 16:38:49 <valhallasw> but I'm wearing a bulletproof vest 16:38:52 * valhallasw kills Bjarni 16:38:52 <Bjarni> valhallasw: you are now dead 16:39:06 <valhallasw> oh. 16:39:14 <Bjarni> <valhallasw> but I'm wearing a bulletproof vest <-- that would make you blind since I aimed for your eye 16:39:24 <valhallasw> oh. 16:39:27 * valhallasw is blind 16:39:34 * valhallasw sends a nuke to Bjarni 16:39:51 <Bjarni> send it to Iran... they want that kind of stuff 16:40:28 * Bjarni gets a tommy gun and empty the magazine at point blank range at valhallasw 16:40:51 <Bjarni> don't distribute weapons of mass destruction 16:41:28 <coppercore> ya know 16:41:37 <coppercore> if iran gets a nuke it's heading to israel 16:41:54 <coppercore> then when israel gets nuked, WWIII starts 16:42:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:42:35 <Bjarni> and you base that on ? 16:42:43 <Bjarni> I mean the WWIII thing 16:42:54 <Prof_Frink> Not sure about WWIII, but there wouldn't be much left of Iran. 16:43:02 <coppercore> israel will retaliate, then the other nations will help iran 16:43:07 <Belugas> nor israel... 16:43:12 <coppercore> israel will get cornered and ask for UN help... 16:43:45 <Belugas> too late, it will get dusted before the cowboys could be there... 16:43:51 <Bjarni> then the question is if UN wants to make it into WWIII 16:44:10 <Bjarni> yeah and what Belugas said... it would take too long for UN to decide on this 16:44:29 <anboni> Bush will have attacked long before the UN council has even gathered 16:44:33 <coppercore> then guess who's gonna say "Fuck the UN, we're going in ourselves" 16:44:43 <coppercore> :P 16:44:47 <Bjarni> Bush, but only him 16:44:50 <Belugas> another reason not to go in war : there is OIL in Iran. We would not want THAT wasted, don't we? 16:44:51 <Prof_Frink> coppercore: the same people currently living next door? 16:44:54 <Bjarni> not the US army :P 16:45:24 <anboni> Belugas, that reason hasn't stopped bush in the past (in fact, it was the prime reason gulf war 2 was started) 16:45:26 <coppercore> lol 16:45:28 <Bjarni> <Prof_Frink> coppercore: the same people currently living next door? <-- well, Israel manage to upset every single country next to them 16:45:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:45:55 <Prof_Frink> I was thinking about next door to Iran 16:45:55 <Belugas> nuke an oil country? never. invade yes. nuke? big nono 16:46:21 <anboni> Belugas, no nukes true, but you said 'reason not to go in war' :) 16:46:37 <Bjarni> Belugas: well, if it is a radioactive wasteland, then there would not be native people to claim the oil 16:46:43 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host7-229.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 16:47:04 <Wolf01> hi guys 16:47:07 <Belugas> To be honest, I fear much more Iran then big wind talker Saddam Hussein 16:47:29 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:47:33 <Belugas> Bjarni : An atomic blast will ignite the oil, don't you think? 16:47:42 <Belugas> BIG BADABOUM 16:47:58 <coppercore> too far undeground :P 16:48:01 <Bjarni> then the enemy would have either died or surrendered 16:48:46 <Belugas> iranians are fanatics. Irakians were oppresed. Iranians will die rather then surrender 16:49:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:20 <Belugas> Anyway, I don't think anyone has anything to gain from a WW, these days. It would be too much destructive 16:52:05 <anboni> KUDr, ping? 16:53:01 <Belugas> So instead, I'll keep on listening to U2 signing peace and love :) 16:53:03 <Belugas> and pray 16:59:13 <anboni> yay! i managed to construct another situation that confuses yapf :) 17:00:52 <CIA-14> belugas * r5321 /branch/newgrf_lab/ (openttd.h variables.h): 17:00:52 <CIA-14> [newgrf_lab] Add MAX_CARGO_SLOT. 17:00:52 <CIA-14> This is the maximum number of cargo PER CLIMATE available in newcargo. 17:00:52 <CIA-14> ONly 12 are actually available. 17:00:52 <CIA-14> NUM_CARGO is kept for now. 17:00:52 <CIA-14> Changing _cargo_payment_rates does not affect loading. 17:14:47 <Sacro> http://cgi.ebay.com/Complete-Vintage-IBM-Computer-PC-5150-w-Accessories_W0QQitemZ8831128373QQihZ005QQcategoryZ74946QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 17:16:05 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:08 <anboni> wow.. i used to have one of those 17:16:33 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 17:16:39 <peter1138> .99 :D 17:16:53 <Sacro> IBM Compatible :P 17:17:28 <hylje> :o 17:17:35 <peter1138> ahhh, the useless bigger keys 17:18:07 <Sacro> only in the us though 17:18:17 <anboni> yeah, bummer 17:18:27 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-212-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:18:32 <Bjarni> hmm 17:18:36 <Bjarni> stupid American 17:18:55 <Bjarni> he will not ship it to the really big vintage marked overseas 17:19:21 <Bjarni> that would be the Russian mafia... they deal in antiques 17:20:26 <Sacro> mwahahaha, a russian attack all controlled by one of them 17:20:39 <hylje> :o 17:20:43 <Bjarni> it would work 17:20:55 <Bjarni> if it is coded for that thing, it will work 17:21:00 <Bjarni> it's very stable 17:21:06 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim_@5.81-166-137.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:41 <Prof_Frink> Yeah, but can you play openTTD on it? 17:21:57 <Bjarni> no, but you can play nuclear war on it 17:22:08 <peter1138> and bouncing babies, maybe 17:22:25 * Prof_Frink bounces a baby at peter1138 17:23:41 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim_@5.81-166-137.customer.lyse.net] has left #openttd [] 17:24:51 <Sacro> ooh, "Global Thermonuclear War" :D 17:37:03 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F3F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 17:46:41 *** jmp_ghli [i=rezso@catv-506284ed.catv.broadband.hu] has left #openttd [] 17:47:30 <Wolf01> nobody wants to help me to develop my patch for more advanced transparency? 17:48:06 <Sacro> Wolf01: aww :( what do you need? 17:48:29 <Wolf01> bugfixing and optimization 17:50:07 <Sacro> ahh 17:50:14 <Wolf01> and maybe restyle the hotkeys function 17:50:25 <Sacro> i can bugfix, but best optimiser is KuDr 17:50:37 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim_@5.81-166-137.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 17:56:20 <Wolf01> i have troubles with the redraw of the sprites which are made transparent when comes out a newspaper 17:57:39 <Wolf01> i think that there is something to change in the viewport.h or .c i don't remember, but i don't understand well that code 17:58:18 <Sacro> hmm, i dunno anyone whose worked on that 17:58:27 <Sacro> peter1138 might have actually, for 2cc 17:59:23 <Wolf01> the last person which worked on it was tron 18:03:16 *** brygge_2 [n=joachim_@5.81-166-137.customer.lyse.net] has left #openttd [] 18:04:25 <Sacro> oh 18:06:06 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:08:35 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DD3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:10:10 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DD3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:38 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-212-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:58 <_bitwise> what's the little pushpin in the right corner of the windows actually do? 18:25:12 <Prof_Frink> _bitwise: click it, then hit delete 18:25:35 <_bitwise> whirred 18:25:39 <_bitwise> thx 18:33:16 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolfolo|AWAY 18:33:16 <Wolfolo|AWAY> Sono away:[ eating ] lasciate pure un messaggio in segreteria 18:33:43 <Prof_Frink> Wolfolo|AWAY: Lose the away message. Seriously. 18:35:15 <gradator> http://www.sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html 18:35:16 <gradator> :) 18:40:15 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:10 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 18:45:41 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DD3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:47:06 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DD3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:49:09 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 18:49:50 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-240-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:51:07 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181100239.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:54:30 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:58:00 <_bitwise> what determines which size airports I can build? 18:58:13 <XeryusTC> date 19:02:28 <_bitwise> shouldn't I be able to build a "small" airport before I build a "city"? 19:02:45 <The-Moon> Dose anyone know Doom Craft? 19:04:29 <Wolf01> uhm, idea, show catchement area also for placed stations when you want to add a new piece 19:09:10 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-550.wfd84a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:11:09 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.50] has joined #openttd 19:11:28 <XeryusTC> <_bitwise> shouldn't I be able to build a "small" airport before I build a "city"? <- the small airport wont be available anymore from a certain date 19:11:34 <The-Moon> If anyone wants to try MiniIN online, i have a server up with the most current version 19:11:50 <_bitwise> oh 19:11:55 <_bitwise> clever small airportness 19:12:25 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946056.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:12:25 <Trenskow> anyone ? an online virusscanner for windows ? 19:12:40 <The-Moon> ? 19:13:02 <The-Moon> http://nightly.openttd.org/MiniIN/files/ 19:14:51 <Wolf01> Trenskow, try http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ 19:15:04 <Trenskow> Wolf01, thx 19:15:08 <The-Moon> Avg Free is best 19:15:32 <Wolf01> that's true 19:17:05 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 19:19:36 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.50] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 19:22:58 <peter1138> _bitwise: unless you enable the patch option for it 19:25:38 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-550.wfd84a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:30:34 <peter1138> http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6875/6875358cv1a.jpg 19:32:35 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-167.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:34:01 <Eddi|zuHause> urgs... anyone knows how i can change the windows console to a sane codepage? (windows-1251 maybe?) 19:34:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i currently get output like this: Aufl÷sen des Hostnamen ?fuzzle.orgœ.... seconds 0.00, 195.112.37.102 19:36:53 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-240-214.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:38:42 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106194.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:38:58 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:39:00 *** DaleStan_ [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:04 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:41:29 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@82.197.255.9] has quit ["Have a nice day."] 19:48:57 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:49:48 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallazzzw 19:50:17 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:51:15 *** Frostregen_ [n=sucks@dslb-084-058-106-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:20 <Eddi|zuHause> errr... when i try to compile miniIN, i get tons of yapf errors... is that normal? 19:53:47 *** pwr [n=pwr@82.78.120.186] has joined #openttd 19:55:57 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: errors? 19:56:31 <Eddi|zuHause> it starts with something like "RailType does not name a type" 19:56:55 <Eddi|zuHause> and then so many followups that the buffer of the console is not large enough 19:57:56 <KUDr> Eddi|zuHause: what compiler? 19:58:06 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:58:13 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a way to output stderr into a file? 19:58:19 <Eddi|zuHause> KUDr: gcc on mingw 19:59:05 <KUDr> ok, i will look at it, but it will take some time. I have slow connection 19:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause> G:\Spiele\OpenTTD2>g++ --version 19:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause> g++ (GCC) 3.4.2 (mingw-special) 19:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause> Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 19:59:20 <[Shaman]> I don't have that error with VS8.0 19:59:21 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause: what about trunk? 19:59:29 <Eddi|zuHause> need to test 20:00:42 <CIA-14> peter1138 * r5322 /branch/utf8/ (57 files in 7 dirs): [utf8] - Sync with r5223:r5321 from trunk 20:01:55 <Eddi|zuHause> trunk seems to compile fine 20:04:13 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2DBB8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:55 *** _bitwise [n=chatzill@ipa104.4.tellas.gr] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 20:06:56 <KUDr> Eddi|zuHause: i have only warnings there but not related to yapf - some copypaste_gui.c, vehicle_gui.c and so on 20:07:18 <KUDr> but it is not mingw - it is gcc 4.0.1 on linux 20:07:35 <KUDr> but it should be the same 20:08:09 <KUDr> did you try to do fresh checkout into empty directory? 20:08:24 <Eddi|zuHause> not yet... 20:08:37 <anboni> make clean solved some odd problems for me a while back :) 20:08:40 <KUDr> must be something broken on your side 20:08:58 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:09:00 <KUDr> yes, make clean helped me too 20:09:03 <KUDr> sometimes 20:09:13 <KUDr> Hackykid: hi 20:09:20 <Hackykid> heya KUDr 20:09:45 <Eddi|zuHause> grrr... case sensitive-- 20:09:52 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-171-066.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:09:52 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 20:13:07 *** Zerot_ [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:13:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:14:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i so fucking hate windows 20:14:41 <Sacro> hmm, Ultra 64 20:14:41 * anboni agrees 20:14:53 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3EAE4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:07 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 20:18:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:18:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:18:38 * Sacro watches a review of Super Mario 2 on the GB 20:18:49 <Eddi|zuHause> this is getting rediculous... 20:19:01 <hylje> your spelling is ridiculous 20:19:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i need to reinstall, and don't have a XP Pro CD around 20:19:24 <hylje> so install linux mayb? 20:19:28 <Sacro> that can only be a good thing 20:19:31 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone here to help me set up a proper linux? 20:19:44 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: yep 20:19:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean so that it actually really works 20:19:46 <hylje> depends on what you want 20:19:55 <Eddi|zuHause> at least everything i can do now 20:20:25 <Sacro> well, i use Arch Linux personally 20:20:30 <Eddi|zuHause> which is going to the net, chatting, watching sattelite TV, hopefully play a few games 20:20:47 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:20:47 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 20:21:13 <Eddi|zuHause> getting to the net is probably not much of a problem, since i have a nat router running elsewhere 20:21:35 <Eddi|zuHause> but i currently have a MAC bridge between 2 network cards, which has to run afterwards 20:22:06 <Sacro> linux does that nicely 20:22:24 <Eddi|zuHause> and all those windows computers have to be able to access my HDs and vice versa 20:22:40 <Eddi|zuHause> my current drives are NTFS 20:23:21 <Eddi|zuHause> and, i don't want to have to boot windows ever again... so single OS 20:23:41 <Sacro> pmsl @ the piracy video im watching 20:24:08 <Eddi|zuHause> is there any _real_ difference between all those linux versions around? 20:24:12 <hylje> no 20:24:20 <hylje> mostly just package managers and philosophy 20:24:25 <Sacro> from 1992, telling you about how not to copy amiga floppies, and cartridges 20:24:42 <anboni> Eddi|zuHause, i've done just that for this pc, migrated to linux about 2 months ago and haven't felt the need to boot to window at all since.. but setting it up properly is going to take some time, might wanna give it some more preperation instead of doing it on a whim right now 20:24:46 <Sacro> then going on to say "now game manufacturers are going one step ahead by using CD's" 20:24:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Sacro: you need to get off of youtube 20:25:01 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: http://bad-influence.co.uk/ :D 20:25:22 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: there is quite a variation in package installation/management, and configuration 20:25:33 <anboni> especially getting your data from your ntfs partitions to ext2 is going to take some effort (linux cant really work with ntfs) 20:25:46 <hylje> anboni: linux can, but its not supported 20:25:57 <hylje> you can fubar your ntfs with some carelessness 20:26:04 <Sacro> linux reads from it nicely, and writes to existing files 20:26:13 <anboni> hylje, and not very reliable.. i'd steer way from it personally :) 20:26:14 <Sacro> it just cant create or delete them 20:26:17 <Eddi|zuHause> well... let's say i pick some random linux... suse 10.1 maybe? 20:26:25 <Sacro> and it can do it perfectly well with captive ntfs 20:26:28 <Sacro> NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT SUSE 20:26:37 * Sacro hates Yast 20:26:41 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3F3F6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:26:42 <Sacro> and the cost 20:26:54 <anboni> Eddi|zuHause, i like suse, although YaST isn't the best management tool around 20:26:57 <anboni> Sacro, there is no cost 20:27:18 <Eddi|zuHause> so... alternatives? 20:27:23 <Sacro> anboni: opensuse is free, but is suse? 20:27:23 <Eddi|zuHause> where to get? 20:27:29 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: ArchLinux www.archlinux.org 20:27:45 <hylje> gentoo! 20:27:55 <anboni> Eddi|zuHause, i'd suggest www.opensuse.org or alternatively www.fedora.org.. both of which i've had some pretty good (and user-friendly) experience with 20:27:56 <hylje> although you gotta have plenty of time to tweak w/ gentoo 20:28:08 <Eddi|zuHause> you are not actually helping with spamming names ;) 20:28:26 <hylje> alternative 20:28:27 <hylje> s 20:28:46 <anboni> Sacro, the only difference between opensuse and suse is the support backing.. and perhaps some commercial stuff that's not included with opensuse.. but i've never missed any of that 20:28:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but even a little reason behind it would be great for choosing 20:29:48 <anboni> Eddi|zuHause, i'd stick with one of the really mainstream distro's, simply for ease of setting up and maintaining.. once you're a bit more comfortable with how everything works, you can always switch 20:29:54 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B808B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 20:33:34 *** Qball is now known as McDVD 20:33:41 <Eddi|zuHause> so... let's try suse 20:33:41 <Sacro> anboni: i still dont like YAST,i prefer to edit config files using nano 20:34:26 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:34:42 <anboni> Sacro, yes, i agree YaST isn't the best tool around for the more advanced stuff.. but for basic stuff, it's just fine.. and i think Eddi|zuHause is currently mostly looking for the basic stuff :) 20:34:54 <Sacro> maybe... 20:35:57 <Eddi|zuHause> 3.5GB... that's gonna take a while ;) 20:36:03 <Eddi|zuHause> see you next week ;) 20:36:35 <anboni> hehe 20:37:02 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 20:37:23 <Sacro> :| thats huge 20:40:58 *** McDVD is now known as McTwoDos 20:40:58 <Eddi|zuHause> 't says ETA 62:14:37 20:41:10 <anboni> ouch 20:41:16 <Sacro> i dont think my whole arch hd is that big 20:42:04 <Eddi|zuHause> would i get better speed with a torrent? 20:42:14 <anboni> probably 20:42:33 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... no experiments... i have time ;) 20:42:54 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause> a day more or less doesn't make much of a difference 20:43:26 <anboni> you might wanna browse http://www.suseforums.net/ while you're waiting .. lot of useful information to be had there, probably also about any migration issues you're going to run into:) 20:43:33 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:07 *** McTwoDos is now known as Qball 20:44:10 <hylje> theres epix to be had as well 20:46:15 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181100239.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 20:54:02 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:56:33 <Sacro> hmm 21:00:56 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E848.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Leaving."] 21:01:04 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B36B8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:01:43 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-61-23.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 21:02:15 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54946056.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 21:04:35 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:10:29 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 21:10:37 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:12:36 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 21:19:28 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B808B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:19:29 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 21:19:33 <peter1138> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5097664.stm 21:19:38 <peter1138> crazy dutch ;p 21:20:26 <anboni> interesting thing though.. it seems the judges in this appeal weren't completely impartial 21:21:27 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:21:34 <anboni> of the three, one had a chairman position at some copyright agency, the other used to be involved with some other part in the record industry 21:23:12 <Hackykid> hmm, and the agency he was chairman of seems to be housed at the same adres as BREIN 21:23:39 <anboni> oh yeah, there was that too.. but that was "purely coincidental"... yeah right 21:23:39 <Hackykid> (which was the accusing party) 21:23:43 <Hackykid> :-p 21:24:00 <Hackykid> ah no 21:24:09 <Hackykid> he denies being the chairman 21:24:16 <anboni> suuure 21:24:50 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:25:37 <Hackykid> hmm 500ghz @ IBM... thats a lot... 21:25:50 <hylje> but does it run linux? 21:25:50 <anboni> heh yeah, that's some overclocking :) 21:26:28 *** TheBlasphemer [n=fw@hardijzer.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 21:26:31 <TheBlasphemer> Hey :) 21:26:36 <Hackykid> minus 269 degrees... thats cold... 21:26:41 <SpComb> link? 21:27:17 <Hackykid> hmm, well, if you can read dutch 21:27:23 <SpComb> not really 21:27:45 <TheBlasphemer> Lrmme guess, tweakers.net ;)? 21:27:49 <TheBlasphemer> Lemme even :P 21:28:06 <anboni> what else?:) 21:28:12 <Hackykid> :-) 21:28:15 <anboni> well.. it could be webwereld i guess 21:39:06 *** Tefad [n=tefad@unaffiliated/tefad] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:39:41 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 21:39:45 <TheBlasphemer> Is anyone familiar with the networking behind OpenTTD ? 21:40:56 <Eddi|zuHause> "svn blame" and take the most mentioned name ;) 21:43:03 <TheBlasphemer> lol! :P 21:43:31 <Hackykid> hehe 21:43:41 <Hackykid> i once was? maybe i still am!? 21:43:57 <Hackykid> or maybe not :-p 21:44:18 <Hackykid> anyway its better to just ask your question instead of asking if there is an expert in the room 21:44:27 <TheBlasphemer> I'm just wondering, if the production rate of a factory changes at the server side, how does the client know ? 21:44:49 <Hackykid> the random seed is synchronised 21:45:01 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:45:17 <Hackykid> so exactly the same 'random' fluctuations will happen on all clients and the server 21:45:45 <TheBlasphemer> :o 21:45:59 <TheBlasphemer> That's a pretty darn cool way to do that ;) 21:46:03 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:46:20 <Brianetta> no 21:46:22 <Brianetta> it isn't 21:46:32 <Hackykid> its not? 21:46:34 <Brianetta> but it's impossible to change without a complete rewrite 21:46:35 <Hackykid> yes it is! 21:46:43 *** Tefad [n=tefad@va-chrvlle-cad1-bdgrp1-4b-b-116.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 21:47:13 <Hackykid> hmm, but really, i dont see anything wrong with it? 21:47:21 <Hackykid> why would you want to rewrite it? 21:47:24 <Brianetta> You don't pay for bandwidth, do you? 21:47:31 <Hackykid> huh? 21:47:48 <Hackykid> syncing the seed once cost less bandwidth than sending every production change..... 21:49:40 <Bjarni> <TheBlasphemer> Is anyone familiar with the networking behind OpenTTD ? <-- I hope TrueLight is familiar with it 21:49:41 <Brianetta> The seed is synced frequently 21:49:48 <Brianetta> and not everything needs to be identical 21:49:48 <Bjarni> he wrote most (all?) of it 21:50:12 <Hackykid> hey, i wrote some of it too! 21:50:20 <Hackykid> about master server stuff stuff 21:50:50 <Sacro> hmm, why mp3 player not working :( 21:51:12 <Bjarni> Sacro: check the mute button and volume :P 21:51:22 <Hackykid> Bjarni: i remember you not being able to connect to me cause you got my ip backwards :-p 21:51:57 <Sacro> Bjarni: i was trying to mount it 21:52:12 <Prof_Frink> check dmesg 21:52:52 <Sacro> hmm, i plugged it into line in, and the cdrom ejected 21:54:00 <Bjarni> Hackykid: yeah.... endian issues can be funny :D 21:54:10 <Bjarni> but only afterwards :P 21:54:17 <Sacro> as can the dutch... 21:54:30 <Bjarni> not when it mirrors IP addresses for one person only >_< 21:54:50 <anboni> Sacro, apperently, we're considered pretty rude generally 21:55:02 <TheBlasphemer> mwuhahaha! a cheat-enabled-server mwuhahaha! :P 21:55:03 <Hackykid> oh really? 21:55:11 <Sacro> Hackykid: ya really 21:55:22 <Hackykid> pffft, lies 21:55:24 <Hackykid> ALL LIES! 21:55:29 <lws1984> LIES! 21:55:32 <lws1984> sorry 21:55:47 <Sacro> tell me lies tell me sweet little lies... 21:56:03 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.50] has joined #openttd 21:56:22 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387CC62.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:56:43 <lws1984> sweet little lies? ok 21:56:48 <anboni> Hackykid, http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/65763 :) 21:56:51 <lws1984> all candy is 100& natrual 21:56:54 <lws1984> :p 21:57:08 <anboni> (of course, it /is/ FOK we're talking about here :) 21:57:15 <Sacro> 100& what? 21:57:33 <Sacro> kaarten? 21:57:36 <lws1984> i meant 100% 21:57:38 <Sacro> click here for free carton... 21:57:47 <lws1984> lol 21:58:03 <Sacro> my dutch isnt too good 21:58:15 *** Cxaxukluth [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-139.res.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 21:58:22 <Bjarni> <Sacro> Bjarni: i was trying to mount it <-- it's the wrong format... try to reformat it and see if it mounts 21:58:27 * Bjarni hides 21:58:34 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-139.res.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:58:39 <Hackykid> hmm, yeah, and 60+ are more rude than 40- 21:59:21 <anboni> yeah 21:59:32 <anboni> grumpy old people 21:59:35 <Sacro> Bjarni: nope, its VFAT 21:59:56 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.50] has quit [Client Quit] 22:00:26 *** Cxaxukluth [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-139.res.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:01:11 *** Cxaxukluth [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-139.res.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:07:18 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B808B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 22:07:31 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:08:46 <Wolf01> bye 22:08:52 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host7-229.pool875.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 22:10:57 <Sacro> grr, cant relocate my finger 22:11:10 <lws1984> it's over there 22:11:15 <lws1984> ---> 22:11:15 <lws1984> :p 22:11:30 <Eddi|zuHause> mv locationA locationB 22:11:50 <Sacro> hmm 22:19:54 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:41 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:21:29 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 22:32:49 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 22:33:29 *** wolf^_ [i=wolf@rev2.kamp.pl] has joined #openttd 22:36:17 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 22:36:58 *** wolf^ [i=wolf@pld-linux/wolf] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:37:37 <Sacro> :( cant get XGL to work 22:38:03 *** wolf^_ is now known as wolf^ 22:39:27 <peter1138> 's naff anyway 22:39:57 <Sacro> i like it 22:40:12 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.50] has joined #openttd 22:41:57 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-550.wfd84a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:42:03 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 22:45:22 *** Zimri [i=Zimri@cpc1-ely13-0-0-cust1001.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 22:49:12 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:50:09 <The-Moon> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5099584.stm 22:50:35 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:52:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:55:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:56:30 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:56:45 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:57:23 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:59:09 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-167.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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