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00:14:16 *** sayno [~sayno@ppp-168-253-17-238.den1.ip.ricochet.net] has joined #openttd 00:16:37 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: -] 00:17:30 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:19:32 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:20:50 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-544523c9.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 00:25:18 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc50.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 00:31:55 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc63.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:44:22 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@63-182.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 00:47:52 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust674.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:00 *** Ammler [~Ammler@63-182.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:36 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca21c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:49:48 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-200-160.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58:07 *** CoRnJuLIOx [~vircuser@202.128.58.251] has joined #openttd 01:02:00 <CoRnJuLIOx> hey, i'm having a bit of a problem with openttd, both the nightly build and the stable version don't start on me. apparantly it can't open a file called sample.cat 01:09:02 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 01:10:46 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 01:19:20 *** JohnUK89 is now known as JohnUK89|Bed 01:23:58 <glx> CoRnJuLIOx: you need files from original TTD (check the readme) 01:25:31 <ThePizzaKing> I'd like to know why that file was called 'sample.cat' when it contains sounds. 01:25:48 <glx> it contains samples 01:28:37 <JohnUK89|Bed> Pretty self explanatory, it's a catalogue of samples 01:29:12 <glx> JohnUK89|Bed: go back to sleep 01:29:17 <JohnUK89|Bed> :P 01:29:36 <glx> you have school soon 01:29:44 <JohnUK89|Bed> 5 days 01:29:46 <JohnUK89|Bed> lol 01:30:08 *** grimrc1 [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 01:30:25 <Belugas_Gone> DaleStan, nice patch you've come up with, for callbacks 01:30:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> glx: i have the files from the original ttd 01:30:55 <CoRnJuLIOx> but i've never needed sample.cat, nor have i ever seen it 01:31:03 <JohnUK89|Bed> CoRnJuLIOx: are the ones ending in .grf and .cat in the OpenTTD data folder? 01:31:33 <JohnUK89|Bed> (And if running OpenTTD from Linux the filenames must all be lower case) 01:31:57 <CoRnJuLIOx> yeah 01:32:02 <CoRnJuLIOx> running windows 01:32:56 <JohnUK89|Bed> sample.cat is definitely part of TTD, it's the one that looks like three sheets of paper surrounded by a yellow line (in Windows) 01:33:50 <CoRnJuLIOx> hmm...im checkin that out 01:35:28 <JohnUK89|Bed> Hmm I need a decent IRC client for my phone...anyone got any ideas? 01:36:50 <CoRnJuLIOx> they've got irc for phones? 01:37:08 <JohnUK89|Bed> Yeah but my client is crap 01:37:31 <JohnUK89|Bed> Crashes whenever I connect to OFTC :( 01:37:48 <glx> nice client :) 01:37:58 <JohnUK89|Bed> lol 01:37:59 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37E63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:38:05 <glx> it worked with freenode? 01:38:09 <JohnUK89|Bed> Yeah 01:38:17 <glx> very bad client :) 01:38:29 <JohnUK89|Bed> I said it was crap :) 01:39:20 <CoRnJuLIOx> holy crap, i found it 01:39:42 <grimrc1> is sample.cat necessary when sound is disabled? 01:39:47 <glx> yes 01:39:50 <JohnUK89|Bed> grimrc1: yes 01:39:58 <glx> even for dedicated server 01:40:06 <grimrc1> should it be? 01:40:31 <grimrc1> not that it really matters 01:41:02 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p54B373C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:41:07 <glx> dedicated server needs the same files as normal game 01:42:32 <CoRnJuLIOx> hey, how do i use a .diff file? 01:42:50 <grimrc1> CoRnJuLIOx: under *nix, you use the patch command 01:42:53 <glx> do you know how to compile openttd ? 01:42:55 <CoRnJuLIOx> theres this patch i found on the forums that i wanna use, but i cant.. 01:42:59 <CoRnJuLIOx> im on windows right now 01:43:04 <CoRnJuLIOx> i know how to do it on linux 01:43:55 <grimrc1> CoRnJuLIOx: patch for source right? there aren't any binary ones 01:44:23 <glx> you need to apply the patch to openttd source and compile 01:44:48 <CoRnJuLIOx> eek. 01:45:09 <glx> there's a sticky on the forum that explains how to do 01:45:15 <grimrc1> which is easy done under *nix as they usually come with a full 'build environment' 01:45:20 <JohnUK89|Bed> compiling is easy under *nix, but unfortunately you're running Winblows :( 01:45:24 <CoRnJuLIOx> yeah. 01:45:37 <CoRnJuLIOx> i'm thinkin of gettin ubuntu 01:45:40 <CoRnJuLIOx> i've heard good things about it 01:45:45 <CoRnJuLIOx> many many good things 01:45:52 <glx> and you can look in the wiki too for how to compile openttd on windows 01:45:57 <grimrc1> I don't know if you can cross-compile from Linux to Windows - there'll be stuff about it on the openttd wiki, docs, etc. 01:45:58 <Belugas_Gone> windows is not that hard to deal with, numerous ways to do so 01:46:02 <JohnUK89|Bed> If you do, don't apply the latest updates...they kill the GUI LO 01:46:07 <JohnUK89|Bed> :P* 01:46:19 <glx> JohnUK89|Bed: what do you mean? 01:46:29 <JohnUK89|Bed> glx: latest ubuntu updates 01:46:34 <glx> ha ok :) 01:46:59 <grimrc1> I'm starting to get curious about ubuntu, but I think I'll stick with my Gentoo 01:47:16 <JohnUK89|Bed> Aha 01:47:19 <CoRnJuLIOx> gentoo looks hard to install 01:47:21 <JohnUK89|Bed> The updates have been fixed :) 01:47:25 <glx> I like my mandriva :) 01:47:41 <glx> though I'm mainly on windows :) 01:47:42 <grimrc1> CoRnJuLIOx: it *is* - the LiveCD 2006.0 installer is buggy; trashed my partition table a couple of times 01:48:09 <CoRnJuLIOx> if they made some sort of graphical installer to simplify things, i'd go for gentoo 01:48:10 <grimrc1> I managed to recover and whatnot, but it wasn't fun 01:48:48 <JohnUK89|Bed> It took me 4 attempts to install Ubuntu, every time the GRUB installation failed and I couldn't work out why 01:49:03 <grimrc1> why did it JohnUK89|Bed? 01:49:26 <JohnUK89|Bed> Ends up my partition table was slightly iffy...so it refused to scan all the partitions 01:49:33 <glx> I always install the loader on a floppy first (to be sure to be able to boot later) 01:49:57 <grimrc1> heh mine's slightly iffy too JohnUK89|Bed; I hate Linux installers that automatically install grub; I love grub though 01:50:08 <JohnUK89|Bed> lol 01:50:57 <glx> I'm using ntloader (never fails ;) ) 01:51:18 <glx> and ntloader launch lilo 01:51:21 <grimrc1> the braindead Gentoo LiveCD 2006.0 installer removes all your partitions and tries to recreate them all again (with any changes you specify - even if you make no changes!!!?!) - unfortunately mine wouldn't remake easily 01:51:55 <JohnUK89|Bed> Ack :-\ 01:51:59 <grimrc1> yeah very nasty 01:52:14 <JohnUK89|Bed> The Ubuntu one lets you specigy your own layout (think it uses gparted) 01:52:21 <JohnUK89|Bed> specify* 01:52:33 <grimrc1> of course later I join the gentoo installer IRC channel and find out it's beta software; doesn't say that anywhere!? 01:53:02 <JohnUK89|Bed> lmao 01:53:09 <grimrc1> heh 01:53:52 <grimrc1> though to be honest, I started to work that out as I repeatedly tried to get it work 01:54:02 <JohnUK89|Bed> yeah :P 01:54:25 <grimrc1> I did workaround its bugs in the end; I'm sure the next release will be a lot better 01:54:39 * Belugas_Gone goes to bed. Gone is really gone now 01:55:10 <JohnUK89|Bed> That highlighted me...bugger! 01:55:28 <grimrc1> I'm working on the following bug. When a new vehicle appears, any build vehicle windows that are open shift down one and your selection changes (it shouldn't) http://bugs.openttd.org/task/73 01:56:21 *** sayno [~sayno@ppp-168-253-17-238.den1.ip.ricochet.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:56:22 <grimrc1> I think I need to redesign FindWindowById so that I can FindNextWindowById, to run through all the Windows in one class (WC_BUILD_VEHICLE or something like that) 01:56:29 * JohnUK89|Bed goes to bed properly, night 01:56:34 <grimrc1> gn John 01:56:39 <CoRnJuLIOx> good night 01:58:37 <glx> grimrc1: I think it depends at which position the new one appear 01:58:40 <glx> +s 01:59:00 <grimrc1> glx: yeah; I need to increment the selection if it appears before it - gets a little complicated 01:59:13 <grimrc1> and I have to do that for every WC_BUILD_VEHICLE window 02:00:10 <glx> the idea is simple, but hard to implement :) 02:00:19 <grimrc1> true 02:01:12 * glx goes to sleep too 02:01:16 <glx> good night 02:01:43 <grimrc1> gn 02:02:07 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:13:49 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:16:29 *** Frostregen92 [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-130-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:16:30 *** Frostregen64 [~sucks@dslb-084-058-130-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:16:50 *** Frostregen92 is now known as Frostregen_ 02:16:50 *** Frostregen64 [~sucks@dslb-084-058-130-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Killed (iridium.oftc.net (Nick change collision))] 02:17:01 *** Frostregen64 [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-130-175.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:22:32 *** Frostregen__ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-137-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:22:37 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-137-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:22:40 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 02:22:51 *** Frostregen64 is now known as Frostregen_ 02:26:27 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust674.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 02:36:07 *** Nigel_ is now known as Nigel 02:44:51 *** Stranger [~Stranger@d-ip-129-15-209-100.kraettli.ou.edu] has joined #openttd 02:45:14 <Stranger> anyone been getting sporadic disconnects? 02:54:07 <grimrc1> can anyone tell me how I should handle WP(w,buildtrain_d).sel_engine and WP(w,buildtrain_d).sel_index for a WC_BUILD_VEHICLE window I find? I can't tell what vehicle type the window is, and I don't know if sel_engine points inside one class of vehicles (just aircraft, or just trains) or it points in side a big list of all vehicles 02:56:17 *** Zahl22 [~SENFGURKE@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:58:54 <grimrc1> even stranger, .sel_index is a byte, it's usually put in an int, and often a uint + uint16 is assigned to it 02:59:28 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-193-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Zahl22))] 02:59:46 *** Zahl22 is now known as Zahl 03:15:24 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 03:26:22 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176127144.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 03:52:40 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 03:57:01 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 03:59:10 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:59:10 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 04:03:23 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:33:06 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 04:39:38 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:41:52 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:44:52 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 04:48:10 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 04:48:17 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 04:50:36 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 04:54:45 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:47 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:56:47 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 05:00:59 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76807.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:08:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75FCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:13:26 <grimrc1> this replace engine stuff is causing trouble when I try to change the behaviour of sel_index 05:21:36 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:58:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host46-239.pool878.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 05:58:27 <Wolf01> hi 06:08:21 <grimrc1> lo 06:09:46 <grimrc1> I've made some progress on the 'new vehicle changes your selection in the build vehicle window' problem; I don't know what the vehicle replace functions are and how to trigger them in-game to test them; they seem to be affected by my patch: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/73 06:11:06 <grimrc1> buildtrain_d and replaceveh_d are confusing 06:11:07 *** Guest56 [Gono@N853P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 06:11:44 <grimrc1> I think the vehicle replace stuff is the vehicle autorenew patch?? 06:12:59 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N860P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:27 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 06:30:16 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3E08D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:36:33 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F06D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:36:36 <CIA-2> tron * r6301 /trunk/gfx.c: -Codechange: if () cascades -> switch () 06:55:48 *** Guest6958183 [~Peach@87.54.16.34] has joined #openttd 07:02:43 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 07:11:05 *** CoRnJuLIOx [~vircuser@202.128.58.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:13:30 <CIA-2> tron * r6302 /trunk/gfx.c: -Codechange: Remove dead code paths, because the lowest bit of Sprite::info is never unset 07:25:18 *** jonty-comp [jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 07:28:19 *** Guest6958183 [~Peach@87.54.16.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:45:28 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:55:47 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 07:55:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 07:56:15 <Darkvater> morning 07:56:21 <grimrc1> hello 07:56:42 <Darkvater> !seen bjarni 07:56:43 <_42_> Darkvater, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x535ca21c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen quitting #openttd 7 hours 7 minutes ago (02.09. 00:49) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 17 hours 28 minutes there. 07:56:47 <Darkvater> hmm 07:59:57 <Tron> *yawn* 07:59:59 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust674.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:01:28 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081910D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:01:32 <AsterixMG> hi @all 08:04:07 *** jonty-comp [jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Au reviour!] 08:04:32 <Darkvater> morning Tron, AsterixMG 08:04:50 <AsterixMG> morning Darkvater :) 08:10:10 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has joined #openttd 08:11:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:14:19 <CIA-2> tron * r6303 /trunk/gfx.c: -Codechange: Remove dead code 08:14:28 *** znikoz [znikoz@npa155.kv.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 08:17:20 *** Ammler_ is now known as Ammler 08:24:30 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 08:47:22 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-171-111.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 08:48:00 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca21c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:48:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:54:13 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-544523c9.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:55:41 *** Progman [~progman@p5091C7FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:56:14 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 08:59:28 *** znikoz [znikoz@npa155.kv.ukrtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:59:28 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:59:46 *** znikoz [znikoz@npa155.kv.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 09:09:57 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-544523c9.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:50 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@63-182.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 09:14:03 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-544523c9.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:15:17 <TrueLight> GOOD MORNING!!! :p 09:15:20 *** Ammler [~Ammler@63-182.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:11 <znikoz> hi 09:17:26 <hylje> HI!!! :p 09:17:39 <znikoz> how i can correctly build lang file from lang/unfinished? 09:18:22 <AsterixMG> morning TrueLight 09:19:05 <AsterixMG> dont shout that loud, i'm still a bit sleepy ;) 09:19:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host46-239.pool878.interbusiness.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:27 <TrueLight> My point :) 09:21:51 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-171-111.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: muss wech] 09:22:44 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 09:23:25 <grimrc1> I've had a go at the vehicle selection bug TrueLight 09:23:52 <TrueLight> grimrc1: good for your :) 09:23:55 <TrueLight> grimrc1: good for you :) 09:24:07 <grimrc1> it's a proof-of-concept patch 09:25:49 <TrueLight> What is the 'bug' 09:26:05 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:26:53 <grimrc1> when a new vehicle gets introduced to your list; if you've got 'build vehicle' window(s) open, it moves your selection down so you're on the wrong vehicle 09:27:05 <TrueLight> yup, known bug 09:28:21 <grimrc1> I fixed it by using .sel_index differently for aircraft only (can do others); trouble is there's some 'vehicle renew' code which I don't understand that breaks on the .sel_index change; I just patched around the assertions and stuff to show what I've done for the aircraft 'build vehicle' window 09:29:17 <grimrc1> I could look in to that vehicle renew/replace code at some point; at the moment I've no idea what part of the game it runs - autorenew maybe? 09:30:01 <grimrc1> you replied to the guy who posted the bug report; that's why I mentioned it 09:30:08 <TrueLight> ah 09:30:17 <TrueLight> I think it is pretty tricky to make correct all over the place 09:30:25 <TrueLight> and I know little about that part of OpentTD 09:30:29 <TrueLight> maybe Bjarni knows 09:30:31 <grimrc1> hehe oh well; I've got a few other bugfixes up there if you're ever feeling bored 09:30:44 <torm> the behemoth that OpenTTD is 09:30:45 <Bjarni> knows what? 09:31:09 <grimrc1> Bjarni: about the vehicle code; I've got a patch on flyspray to a 'vehicle selection' bug 09:31:11 <TrueLight> grimrc1: sorry grimrc1, but I can't help you with those :( Try poking Darkvater or Bjarni 09:32:09 <Bjarni> which number? 09:32:58 <grimrc1> #73 - but I've got better patches on there 09:33:12 <smeding> nicotine patches! :p 09:33:24 <smeding> (yes, i am very bored, and yes, the only word i read was "patches") 09:33:42 <grimrc1> #311 & #317 are good I think 09:35:09 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6304 /trunk/ (aircraft_cmd.c roadveh_cmd.c ship_cmd.c train_cmd.c): -Codechange r6295: Use !! instead of (bool) in commands to send vehicles to depots 09:35:29 * Bjarni slaps smeding 09:35:32 <grimrc1> I like #306 too hehe 09:35:37 <Bjarni> we got a channelwide smoking ban 09:35:48 <smeding> that's what the nicotine patches are for! 09:35:56 <smeding> to help the smokers among us stop smoking! 09:36:15 <smeding> (i don't smoke, but my parents do so i bug them to stop often) 09:36:33 <Bjarni> actually they are meant to make the ex-smokers dependant on them to make money 09:36:37 <Bjarni> so we banned those as well 09:37:02 <grimrc1> yeah I heard that about the patches 09:37:13 <smeding> heh. 09:37:13 <grimrc1> addictive patches 09:37:21 <smeding> you crazy Dane. :p 09:37:32 <grimrc1> I think the patches are better than the cigs though 09:37:41 <smeding> and no, that's not meant in a racist way, and yes, you can call me a crazy Dutchie. 09:37:58 <grimrc1> the Danes aren't a race are they? 09:38:04 <smeding> well no 09:38:09 <smeding> but before anyone gets the wrong idea D: 09:38:23 <grimrc1> that *is* the wrong idea 09:38:48 <smeding> no it isn't, it's still not meant in a racist way, as it can't be due to the Danes not being a race 09:38:51 <smeding> :> 09:39:11 <grimrc1> is err... their bacon really good or something? 09:39:13 <Bjarni> I look at a patch for a moment and while I do that, the channels starts to call me crazy and people gets the wrong ideas and stuff 09:39:19 <Bjarni> don't do that 09:39:32 <grimrc1> hehe 09:39:40 <Bjarni> you are like animals. Needs constant supervision 09:39:59 <grimrc1> Bjarni: what kind of animals need constant supervision?? that's crazy! 09:40:13 <grimrc1> do you mean children? 09:40:15 <grimrc1> hehe 09:41:15 <smeding> i'm considered a child by most, sadly D: 09:42:37 <Bjarni> smeding: maybe this will change when you become a teenager 09:42:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host12-236.pool878.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 09:42:49 <smeding> pfft, i'm 14 :p 09:43:03 <Bjarni> crap 09:43:09 <smeding> apparently people here consider that being a teenager o.o 09:43:10 <Bjarni> then all hopes are out for you 09:43:13 <smeding> heh. 09:43:15 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 09:43:15 <Wolf01> !logs 09:43:51 <Bjarni> you are a product of a bad environment 09:44:24 <grimrc1> a teenager is 13 - 19 right? but what about other languages? in German elf & zwolf (eleven & twelve) are different from dreizehn, vierzhen ... neunzehn (13 - 19) just like English 09:44:57 <smeding> . 09:45:06 <Bjarni> teenager is an English word... 09:45:22 <grimrc1> thir - TEEN to nine - TEEN 09:45:28 <grimrc1> what's the German word? 09:45:29 <Bjarni> It got a bit don't care for other languages 09:45:33 <grimrc1> zehner? 09:45:54 <Bjarni> maybe smeding knows 09:45:54 <smeding> in Finnish x where 20 > x > 10 and x is round, it's just the word for the number plus a suffix 09:45:57 <Bjarni> he is one of them 09:46:07 <smeding> zehn = ten 09:46:31 <grimrc1> teen almost = ten 09:46:45 <smeding> probably ten = teen in old English 09:46:54 <grimrc1> 14 is under the age of consent you know 09:47:01 <grimrc1> just in case anyone was wondering hehe 09:47:04 <smeding> heh. 09:47:20 <grimrc1> I'm 24 09:47:44 <AsterixMG> in german teenager is also used, there is no real german word for that (as for lots of other words that we "import" from other languages :/ ) 09:47:56 <smeding> pfft 09:47:59 <Bjarni> you are German? 09:48:07 <smeding> everyone knows the Dutch are masters of stealing from other languages 09:48:17 <grimrc1> there's so many Germans in here; some might say too many (joking) 09:48:18 <TrueLight> Bye all! 09:48:21 *** TrueLight [~truelight@s559112c3.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 09:48:40 <AsterixMG> well, i was born in germany, always lived in germany, so yes, i think i am german ;) 09:48:45 <Bjarni> I'm sorry 09:48:47 <hylje> no you arent 09:49:01 <grimrc1> is there any Austrians in here? 09:49:04 <smeding> hylje ei ole suomalainen! 09:49:07 <smeding> D: 09:49:08 <Bjarni> <smeding> everyone knows the Dutch are masters of stealing from other languages <-- not only words 09:49:18 * Bjarni slaps smeding 09:49:24 <Bjarni> you are speaking gibberish 09:49:34 <smeding> Finnish, actually - but it's a fine line 09:49:37 <Bjarni> grimrc1: yrs, sometimes, but I don't think they are here right now 09:49:59 * hylje eats a foo bar 09:50:07 <Bjarni> no it's not. Only English is allowed in this channel 09:50:16 <smeding> fair enough 09:50:28 <grimrc1> you know in this country we confuse all the Scandinavian countries 09:50:32 <torm> hey people... 09:50:52 <smeding> hi 09:50:59 <torm> i'm playing with SDL window creation... but all the examples i've seen use a loop of some kind to keep the window open 09:51:05 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 09:51:06 <Bjarni> and by this country, you mean ? 09:51:08 <Bjarni> USA? 09:51:09 <torm> this makes the CPU go to 100% 09:51:10 <grimrc1> England 09:51:16 <torm> any ideas how to avoid this? 09:51:29 <Tron> wait for events 09:51:45 <torm> but to wait, dont you have to loop? 09:51:57 <Bjarni> grimrc1: not true. You know Danish bacon and Swedish girls... you don't confuse those :P 09:52:08 <Bjarni> and you don't want Swedish bacon :P 09:52:11 <Tron> of course you have use a loop 09:52:15 <grimrc1> hehe 09:52:29 <Bjarni> you might want Danish girls, but that's another story 09:53:11 <torm> Tron: hmm... why then does openttd for example not send my cpu to 100% at the menu window? would it not be waiting (looping) for events? 09:53:22 <Tron> do { 09:53:35 <Tron> event = WaitForEvent(); 09:53:42 <Tron> ProcessEvent(event); 09:53:54 <Tron> } while (event != EVENT_QUIT); 09:54:14 <torm> ahh, cheers mate.. thanks for the heads up... 09:54:28 <torm> just started playing with sdl and my laptop was getting very hot... 09:54:32 <grimrc1> wow that must mean the example I'm reading on libsdl.org's doc wiki is really badly coded 09:54:47 <torm> grimrc1: thats the one i was reading too 09:54:54 <grimrc1> while(SDL_PollEvent(&event)){ 09:55:13 <grimrc1> I suppose it isn't if you're doing something else most of the time? 09:55:38 <torm> grimrc1: i think the prob there is it's poling for an event, not waiting... 09:55:45 <torm> anyhoo i'll try that out... thanks TheMask96 09:55:49 <torm> lol 09:55:55 <torm> Tron 09:55:55 <grimrc1> heh 09:56:20 <CIA-2> truelight * r6305 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (Makefile.src.in config.lib configure): [MakefileRewrite] -Add: added --strip 09:58:06 <Tron> grimrc1: depends on what you want to do. If you want to do something all the time and just check now and then for events, then SDL_PollEvent() is perfectly fine 09:58:40 <grimrc1> yeah makes sense; plus you might not need threading with SDL_PollEvent(), right? 10:01:01 <torm> do { 10:01:01 <torm> SDL_WaitEvent(&event); 10:01:01 <torm> } while (event.type != SDL_QUIT); 10:01:08 <torm> ^^ works a charm... 10:01:09 * torm dances 10:02:27 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host12-236.pool878.interbusiness.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:20 <Bjarni> grimrc1: I looked at your patch (73) and I'm not sure that is the way to go 10:07:39 *** zcram [~zcram@88.196.155.96] has joined #openttd 10:07:42 <Bjarni> but I found a way to reproduce this very easy, so it's possible to find a solution 10:07:48 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:07:50 <Bjarni> the autoreplace window got the same issue 10:08:03 <hylje> is there a way to list stations with waiting cargo shown 10:08:13 *** zcram [~zcram@88.196.155.96] has left #openttd [] 10:08:16 <Bjarni> start a new game, build the last engine in the list, open the window and build the first one 10:08:28 <hylje> i dont like to keep them all open, since widgets have a limit 10:08:52 <Bjarni> hylje: hmm 10:09:07 <Bjarni> if there is, it will be the station list window 10:09:19 <hylje> yes 10:09:53 <hylje> it just shows what cargo it has 10:09:55 <hylje> not how much 10:09:56 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:10:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:10:27 <CIA-2> truelight * r6306 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (config.lib configure): [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: moved around code to make it more usuable and extendable 10:14:49 *** znikoz [znikoz@npa155.kv.ukrtel.net] has left #openttd [] 10:18:32 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:18:49 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:19:55 <hylje> has miniin got some land value stuff 10:20:10 <hylje> big towns got crazy expensive land 10:23:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 10:23:56 *** eQualize1 [~lauri@dyn13-124.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:24:07 <CIA-2> truelight * r6307 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Add: added --enable-universal, which makes for OSX universal compiles. Not fully done. 10:28:17 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn13-124.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:31:03 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 10:32:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> <grimrc1> is there any Austrians in here? <- Gonozal_VIII is austrian, afaik 10:32:55 <torm> grimrc1: i'm an aussie... from Perth 10:33:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> and the closest german word to "teenager" is "Heranwachsender" 10:33:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> torm: that's Austrailia, not Austria ;) 10:33:42 <torm> Eddi|zuHause2: majorly my bad 10:36:42 <CIA-2> truelight * r6308 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Add: added lipo detection for OSX 10:38:08 <CIA-2> truelight * r6309 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix r6308: reverted it a bit, only check for lipo on OSX and universal 10:43:11 <grimrc1> hehe 10:45:12 <Bjarni> grimrc1: I don't like your patch and I want to do this right, but it turns out to be mighty hard to do 10:45:19 <grimrc1> which one? 10:45:24 <Bjarni> the list generation is pretty messy 10:45:30 <Bjarni> the new vehicle+list one 10:45:43 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: En KLAP.. de klaptop is dicht...] 10:45:50 *** StarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:46:12 <Bjarni> hmm 10:46:18 <Bjarni> just got a new idea 10:47:00 <grimrc1> I thought the list generation always was pretty messy 10:48:06 <Bjarni> it was ok until we added newgrf support 10:48:07 <grimrc1> the best I could think of was using .sel_index as a sort of diff 10:48:54 <grimrc1> I think the other patches are much better though; this one was just a prototype one to see if I was doing it right 10:49:00 <Bjarni> now it loops thought all vehicle 4 times for trains in order to draw them in the right order 10:49:40 <grimrc1> I patched the planes part 10:51:13 <Bjarni> I noticed 10:51:26 <Bjarni> I just think it's the wrong way to go 10:51:34 <Bjarni> it will make the code even more messy 10:52:26 <Bjarni> we should make it less messy 10:53:10 <Bjarni> right now it's readable at maybe twice the speed as ASM code is 10:53:19 <grimrc1> I don't like the way the current code uses .sel_index which is an index inside the allowed list of planes; I changed it to 0 usually (no action by user), and if it changes then it points to the item the user clicked on; .sel_engine is how I store the current engine 10:54:43 <grimrc1> a new vehicle makes .sel_index stale, but the old cold relies on .sel_index to keep track of the vehicle currently selected, when .sel_engine does a much better job pointing right at the currently selected engine 10:54:59 <Bjarni> yeah, I'm thinking about changing the selection to EngineID. That way we can change the list all we want and it is still on the right engine 10:55:45 <Bjarni> but then we need WE_CREATE to set it up right when we create the window 10:55:48 <grimrc1> ohhh cool; but what's the point in .sel_index, except to convey that the user has selected a different item in the list maybe 10:56:17 *** Ammler_ is now known as Ammler 10:56:33 <Bjarni> the point is that (I'm talking about the autoreplace window now) is that it was the first window I ever made and to get the list to work, I copy pasted working code from another window and modified it 10:56:39 <grimrc1> .sel_engine is the EngineID currently selected 10:56:40 <Bjarni> if it ain't broke, don't fix it 10:56:52 <grimrc1> heh 10:57:02 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 10:57:20 <Bjarni> now that I got a better understanding of how the code works, I will likely be able to code this better 10:57:25 <grimrc1> Bjarni: cool 10:57:34 <Bjarni> but likely not today 10:57:44 <grimrc1> if you build the list on WE_CREATE, how do you detect changes? 10:58:08 <grimrc1> does InvalidateWindows call WE_CREATE or WE_PAINT? 10:58:27 <Bjarni> WE_CREATE is an event, that's called when the window is created to set the init values 10:58:36 <Bjarni> WE_PAINT 10:58:57 <Bjarni> WE_CREATE is only when the window is (well, you guessed it) created 10:59:03 <grimrc1> when a new vehicle is available, InvalidateWindows() is called 10:59:10 <Bjarni> yes 10:59:14 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:59:18 <grimrc1> that's why tweaking the current code works 10:59:50 <Bjarni> but if I change the window to use EngineID instead of index in the list, then I need an init function to select something when the window is created 11:00:07 <Bjarni> and then the current code to invalidate the window is ok 11:00:14 <grimrc1> it sounds like I can't write a decent patch, because the changes needed are quite broad; especially changing the window type - that's beyond me 11:00:50 <Bjarni> it's not changing the window type, it's adding a new window event 11:01:16 <Bjarni> and yes, it's a big patch as it deals with a fundamental design flaw in the window 11:01:25 <grimrc1> I thought struct buildtrain_d was part of the struct window - but I don't understand that well as I'm saying 11:01:46 <Bjarni> I didn't think of this when I coded it in the first place. I was happy enough just to get my first window working 11:02:08 <Bjarni> specially since I picked such a complex one as my first 11:02:14 <grimrc1> yeah it is complex 11:02:49 <grimrc1> so I'll forget about that bug then as I can't really help 11:03:00 <Bjarni> I had to add support for two vertical scrollbars... the window engine didn't understand that when I started working 11:04:04 <grimrc1> Bjarni: if you or someone else redesigned aircraft build *and* aircraft autoreplace properly, I could use that as a prototype to fix the other cases (rail etc.), if that'd be helpful 11:04:45 <Bjarni> we only got one function to handle autoreplace windows, so it's done for all vehicles at once 11:04:46 <grimrc1> what I mean is, I could do some of the 'dog-work' if you like 11:05:00 <Bjarni> but the build windows... that would be nice 11:05:17 <grimrc1> although it would nearly be copy-paste hehe 11:05:35 <Bjarni> bbl 11:05:39 <grimrc1> cya 11:06:12 <hylje> openttd: ai/default/default.c:1788: AiStateBuildDefaultRailBlocks: Assertion `!CmdFailed(r)' failed. 11:06:17 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2EAAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:06:34 <hylje> miniin r6304 11:07:07 <AsterixMG> hylje, then you should post it to the miniin-problems thread 11:08:20 <CIA-2> truelight * r6310 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (123 files in 11 dirs): [MakefileRewrite] -Sync: sync with trunk from r6171:6309 11:08:30 <hylje> i dont think miniin alters the default ai? 11:09:49 <AsterixMG> i don't know, but if you can't reproduce it with a clean build of the current svn (without patches), noone will have a look at it 11:10:36 <AsterixMG> its hard to tell if one of the patches included in miniin have some impact on the AI 11:11:56 <AsterixMG> i have already produced errors myself in places i didn't even look at :) 11:13:19 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2D2EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:18:11 <CIA-2> truelight * r6311 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: for some reason I removed config.cache.source.list on 'make clean', making 'make clean all' impossible (tnx Rubidium) 11:24:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host3-235.pool870.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 11:26:00 <CIA-2> truelight * r6312 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: stupid OSX strip doesn't have -V, so just assume it is on the system 11:27:15 <CIA-2> truelight * r6313 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Revert r6312: it did more wrong then right.. 11:27:47 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176127144.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:34:06 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@pc50.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:34:25 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc50.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 11:35:25 <CIA-2> truelight * r6314 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: in OSX, compile a file to test lipo and strip on, to detect those 2 tools 11:37:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> *YAWN* ... i hate saturday mornings... 11:37:46 <Faux> But.. no work! 11:37:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> s/saturday// 11:38:14 <Faux> Plus, it must be technically afternoon there soon. 11:38:27 <hylje> :E 11:39:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> well... technically, it's almost 2PM ;) 11:39:25 <Wolf01> :E http://wolf01.game-host.org/img/speed_test.PNG 11:40:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> if that image does not load within 1 minute, did i fail the speed test? :p 11:41:09 <Wolf01> no, is my dsl speed test 11:41:20 <hylje> hahaha 11:41:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> looks fun ;) 11:43:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> but might as well be mine ;) 11:44:19 <Wolf01> i have 33.6k adsl -_-''' 11:52:01 *** sjm [~simon@bollo.16hz.net] has joined #openttd 11:52:33 <sjm> does anyone know whether any sync error problems were fixed since 0.4.8? 11:52:58 <sjm> i have a network game running on my local machine and i can't stay connected for more than a few minutes without a sync error 11:54:13 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5A2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:56:31 <CIA-2> truelight * r6315 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: 11:56:31 <CIA-2> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: make detection code look at exit-code too 11:56:31 <CIA-2> -Fix: OSX doesn't like -s in strip (has a totally different function! YEAH!) 11:56:31 <CIA-2> -Fix: use $cc_host if you want to do host detection, not gcc ;) 11:57:31 <CIA-2> truelight * r6316 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: nasty typo: 2 had to be 4 11:58:33 <CIA-2> truelight * r6317 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix r6316: typo in typo correction... 4 had to be 3 (remote testing sucks ass) 12:00:42 <CIA-2> truelight * r6318 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: only gcc and g++ give back the machine they compile for 12:01:44 <Darkvater> grimrc1: if you ask me the fix you are doing is futile 12:01:57 <grimrc1> which one? 12:02:05 <valhallasw> !seen truelight 12:02:06 <_42_> valhallasw, truelight is on #openttd.tgp right now. 12:02:19 <CIA-2> truelight * r6319 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: if makedepend wasn't detected, it showed that it was 12:02:55 <grimrc1> I've got several patches up; do you mean new vehicles fix? 12:03:19 <Darkvater> the sel-index 12:04:09 <CIA-2> truelight * r6320 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: if makedepend isn't detected, don't try to use it 12:04:43 <grimrc1> I'm not working on it any more because rewriting it properly involve too many changes 12:05:15 *** Ammler [~Ammler@63-182.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05:18 <Darkvater> yeah. I looked into it a while ago as well and decided it's way too much effort to et right with virtually no advantage 12:06:11 *** nvz [~nvz@wv-mgtnwv-cad1-grp3a-3-167.pittpa.adelphia.net] has left #openttd [] 12:06:45 <grimrc1> if the vehicle autoreplace code worked with it I would have finished it though 12:06:52 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I looked at that patch and rejected it as well for being messy and not the way to solve such an issue 12:06:57 <grimrc1> that would mean not too much redesigning; oh well 12:07:11 <CIA-2> truelight * r6321 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: make sure if makedepend is disabled, you never try to use it 12:09:03 *** Ammler [~Ammler@63-182.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 12:09:21 <Darkvater> hmm anyone got experience with the Shuttle XPC SB81P barebone? 12:09:23 <Darkvater> http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=805&page=5 12:09:36 <Darkvater> I dropped my idea of a NAS as it was too expensive and think about getting one of these babies 12:12:19 <CIA-2> truelight * r6322 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: add -liconv to LIBS 12:13:05 <grimrc1> what kind of CPU? 12:13:23 <Wolf01> we have one at work, they are little and light, but is impossible to put hands on it without disassemble all the components 12:13:32 <grimrc1> er I don't have any experience with them 12:13:34 <Darkvater> P4 12:13:50 <Darkvater> Wolf01: it's not like I am going to open it up daily :) 12:14:10 <grimrc1> I don't get it; you're using it for NAS? 12:14:24 <Darkvater> well the plan would be to use it for NAS and multimedia 12:14:38 <Wolf01> we too, but was a pain to extract the HDD 12:14:39 <Darkvater> it'll just sit in the corner, serving me movies and audio as well as file/webserver 12:15:11 <grimrc1> why not just use an original xbox or something? aren't they cheaper? 12:15:42 <Darkvater> I bought a used-xbox, but it was too much hassle and noisy 12:15:46 <hylje> :o 12:15:51 <grimrc1> oh hehe 12:15:55 <Darkvater> plus it was pretty damn ugly 12:15:56 <Darkvater> X 12:15:58 <Darkvater> brr 12:16:48 <Wolf01> i suggets the shuttle only if you don't have much space or you want to keep it in the living room 12:17:06 <Darkvater> why? 12:17:08 <grimrc1> can't an xbox go in the closet? 12:17:13 <Tron> <Darkvater> it'll just sit in the corner, serving me pr0n and audio as well as file/webserver 12:17:17 <Tron> Darkvater: fixed your typo 12:17:28 <Darkvater> hehe 12:17:34 <Darkvater> but I do not have porn on my PC 12:17:36 <Darkvater> waste of space 12:17:43 <grimrc1> that's why you need NAS 12:17:47 <grimrc1> heh 12:18:02 <Darkvater> well looking at this shuttle, I can put in 3HDD's 12:18:11 <Wolf01> because is like a notebook: you buy it and you keep it as it is 12:18:31 <Darkvater> Wolf01: that's the intention. I plan to buy a laptop for general usage 12:19:38 <Wolf01> we use it as video recorder :) 12:20:51 <CIA-2> truelight * r6323 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Add: added the last piece of OSX universal compiles 12:21:41 *** Cyberjunkie [~cyberjunk@202.177.150.20] has joined #openttd 12:24:58 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25:18 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:29:04 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 12:33:47 <CIA-2> truelight * r6324 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (Makefile.in config.lib): 12:33:47 <CIA-2> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: the name is ppc970, not ppc870 12:33:47 <CIA-2> -Fix: lipo code failed, should work now (tnx Bjarni) 12:34:14 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: http://iThought.dk/ ] 12:44:17 <CIA-2> truelight * r6325 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: forgot " around a [] statement, bash doesn't like that ;) 12:47:58 <Wolf01> question (MiniIN): why is no more possible to copy/share orders clicking on the vehicles in depots? 12:48:52 <Sacro> </Wolf01> mwahaha 12:50:33 * Wolf01 bites Sacro 12:51:13 <Sacro> :o 12:51:57 <Wolf01> you are lucky that was the hand... nex time the neck 12:52:04 <Wolf01> *next 12:52:53 <Sacro> :(oh 12:53:31 <hylje> Wolf01: its not possible in trunk? 12:54:03 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 12:54:05 <Wolf01> is possible in r6176 12:55:08 <Wolf01> and since i have 33.6k dsl i can't dl nightlies 12:56:19 <Sacro> narrowband dsl? ouch 12:56:35 <Wolf01> yes 12:56:39 <Wolf01> http://wolf01.game-host.org/img/speed_test.PNG 12:57:25 <CIA-2> truelight * r6326 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: 12:57:25 <CIA-2> [MakefileRewrite] -Add: added optimizers for G5 12:57:25 <CIA-2> -Add: made the FOUR_BYTE_BOOL a general thing for all PPC targets (using dumpmachine via gcc) 12:59:12 <mikk36> why does openttd get desyncs so easily ? 13:02:29 <AsterixMG> mikk36, what version do you use? 13:02:32 <mikk36> 048 13:02:45 <mikk36> running a server on 10/10 net 13:03:02 *** Cyberjunkie [~cyberjunk@202.177.150.20] has left #openttd [] 13:03:02 <mikk36> and 1024x512 got strangely a lot of desyncs 13:03:11 <mikk36> usually one in 15-30 minutes 13:03:51 <mikk36> dedicated server has above normal priority 13:05:48 <CIA-2> truelight * r6327 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (os/macosx/G5_detector.c src/os/macosx/G5_detector.c): [MakefileRewrite] -Move: move G5_detector to src/ dir 13:07:01 <AsterixMG> hmm, is it ingame at the beginning of a new month/year? 13:17:23 <CIA-2> truelight * r6328 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Add: added G5 detection code 13:18:56 <CIA-2> truelight * r6329 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: in fact, if build != host, it is cross-compile 13:19:20 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:29 <sjm> mikk36: i have the same problem 13:22:53 <mikk36> AsterixMG, autosaves are disabled at server 13:23:06 <sjm> i have a network game running on this machine, initially it was fine but a few hours later and i can't stay connected for more than a few minutes without a desync 13:23:33 <sjm> i'm connecting to the same machine with the same binary for server/client 13:26:48 <CIA-2> truelight * r6330 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Add: --enable-osx-g5 forces G5 for OSX, and skips detection 13:27:46 * mikk36 np: Status Quo - Fun Fun Fun [0:36/3:03] 192kbps - 44Khz 13:27:48 <mikk36> :) 13:28:09 * Bjarni pulls the plug 13:28:13 <Bjarni> no disco in here 13:28:29 <JohnUK89|Bed> Afternoon :) 13:28:34 *** sjm [~simon@bollo.16hz.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:30:12 <AsterixMG> JohnUK89|Bed, time you get out of your bed ;) 13:30:23 <JohnUK89|Bed> Just have ;-) 13:30:26 *** JohnUK89|Bed is now known as JohnUK89 13:30:43 <AsterixMG> :) 13:30:53 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: in case you missed that fact, you are not living in Hull 13:31:09 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I know that :) 13:31:12 <Bjarni> it's not mandatory for you to stay up all night shacking girls 13:31:49 <JohnUK89> I wasn't, I was staying up all night attempting to get me connection working properly, and it is doing now 13:32:19 <JohnUK89> Ooh my GPRS data counter on my phone wraps around at a gig 13:32:56 <Bjarni> <Bjarni> no disco in here <-- I hate repeating myself, but now somebody outside decided to listen to Brian Addams... so loud that it's louder in here than my own music >_< 13:33:12 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: ouch :S 13:34:03 <Bjarni> I closed the window 13:34:14 <JohnUK89> Good :) 13:34:19 <JohnUK89> Brian Adams sucks 13:34:59 *** Patrick`_ [~pitt2@i-195-137-14-213.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 13:35:04 <hylje> what about bryan? 13:35:11 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, better now than in the middle of the night while you want to sleep ;) 13:36:28 <Bjarni> <AsterixMG> Bjarni, better now than in the middle of the night while you want to sleep ;) <-- that happened like a week ago, but it was not Brian Addams 13:36:55 <Bjarni> it was actually music I might have put on myself, so I survived it 13:37:15 *** Patrick` [~pitt2@i-195-137-14-213.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:37:57 <AsterixMG> well, i once had the neighbor playing folksongs in the middle of the night :/ 13:38:00 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: one d in Adams ;-) 13:38:50 <Bjarni> whatever 13:39:15 * JohnUK89 is now awaiting a kick from Bjarni for being a pedant 13:39:46 <Bjarni> nice 13:39:56 <Bjarni> I jammed JohnUK89 in a sleep loop 13:40:07 <Bjarni> waiting for an event that will not happen 13:40:22 * JohnUK89 stops awaiting it 13:40:25 <JohnUK89> :) 13:40:37 *** JohnUK89 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [you should not have stopped waiting] 13:40:45 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 13:41:03 * JohnUK89 slaps Bjarni 13:41:08 <JohnUK89> Bugger :P 13:41:12 *** JohnUK89 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [you should not have done that] 13:41:24 <hylje> naziop 13:41:27 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 13:41:34 <Bjarni> hey, he attacked me 13:41:40 <JohnUK89> You like kicking me don't you :) 13:41:47 <Bjarni> I bet you like it 13:41:55 <JohnUK89> No, it hurts 13:42:01 <JohnUK89> '( 13:42:06 <JohnUK89> :'(* 13:42:21 <Bjarni> then why don't you learn from your mistakes 13:42:29 <Bjarni> and it's :?( 13:42:34 <JohnUK89> Because I never do :) 13:42:48 <Bjarni> are you sure your aren't from Hull? 13:42:52 <Born_Acorn> That smiley looks more like he has a nose made from a rasher of bacon. 13:42:56 <JohnUK89> Yes 13:43:18 <Bjarni> Born_Acorn: well, it depends on the font, I guess 13:43:26 <Bjarni> :~( 13:43:36 <Bjarni> no, that's not good either 13:43:51 <Born_Acorn> You broke his nose now! 13:43:57 <Bjarni> both of them looks awesome if you use the right font :P 13:44:18 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: oh I'm sorry about your nose 13:44:19 <Born_Acorn> I use Arial. So there! 13:44:27 <JohnUK89> Grrrrr 13:44:40 <JohnUK89> :-( 13:44:44 <Born_Acorn> The sense of smell should return soon 13:44:56 <Bjarni> yeah 13:45:07 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 13:45:10 <Bjarni> I smell you already 13:45:16 <MeusH> \o/ 13:45:17 <MeusH> congrats 13:45:21 <JohnUK89> Strangely I can smell bacon... 13:45:25 <MeusH> you won a prize! Bjarni the smeller 13:45:44 <MeusH> hi Darkvater, let's measure 13:45:49 <MeusH> Sacro wants to be measured 13:46:11 <Bjarni> ok 13:46:20 * Bjarni goes to get the microscope 13:47:32 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:51:34 <CIA-2> truelight * r6331 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Add: made the ability to define your sysroot version under OSX 13:52:00 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.147.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:53:59 <CIA-2> truelight * r6332 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: on universal OSX, enable sysroot always 13:57:18 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:49 <hylje> autorail hotkey (A) brings railroad building window in 13:58:07 <hylje> but same level terraformer hotkey (E) does not bring terraform window in 13:59:14 <CIA-2> truelight * r6333 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Change: renamed enabled-osx-sysroot to with-osx-sysroot, as that name is more logic 14:00:16 <CIA-2> truelight * r6334 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix r6333: forgot to rename disabled to without 14:00:47 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76807.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:01:26 <CIA-2> truelight * r6335 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: Makefiles go to objs, not src (prettyfy ;)) 14:02:19 <CIA-2> truelight * r6336 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: 10.4 is PPC only, 10.4u is universal (stupid OSX) (Bjarni) 14:07:40 <mikk36> Bjarni, u here ? 14:07:51 <Bjarni> maybe 14:07:55 <Bjarni> depends on who is asking 14:08:01 <Bjarni> and the question 14:08:29 <mikk36> how are those seperated stations built ? (1 name, 2 seperated locations) 14:09:04 <hylje> build a big station 14:09:06 <hylje> remove the middle 14:09:12 <Bjarni> yeah 14:09:17 <Bjarni> why ask me? 14:09:18 <Wolf01> or do station walking 14:09:29 <hylje> station walking is just that 14:09:32 <Bjarni> why not just the channel? 14:09:39 <hylje> ottdcoop people abuse the fuck out of it sometimes :> 14:09:56 <mikk36> station walking ? 14:10:06 <mikk36> and channel ? 14:10:26 <Bjarni> I think Wolf01 even wrote a patch to do it without walking 14:10:29 <Wolf01> you build little pieces of stations to reach the location you want 14:11:11 <mikk36> and how are they connected ? (i mean how do i tell the game to make then unified ?) 14:11:19 <Wolf01> or with our (mine and Frostregen's) patch you can hold ALT and you can select at which station you want to join the new piece 14:11:19 *** Guest56 [Gono@N721P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:12:27 <mikk36> is it possible in 048 without any patch ? 14:12:51 <Wolf01> the station walk is possible with irregular stations 14:13:35 <Wolf01> just remove the pieces in excess by pressing the bulldozer button when building a station 14:13:40 <mikk36> ok 14:14:25 *** CoRnJuLIOx [~vircuser@202.128.58.251] has joined #openttd 14:14:28 <hylje> but dont do that with rail station pieces 14:14:50 <hylje> demolishing one piece demolishes all the other pieces 14:15:04 <hylje> but using "remove station" will remove just on 14:15:06 <Wolf01> no, the bulldozer key, not the dynamite key 14:15:33 <hylje> ah yes 14:16:21 <CIA-2> truelight * r6337 /branches/makefile_rewrite/projects/ (openttd.vcproj openttd_vs80.vcproj): [MakefileRewrite] -Sync: forgot to generate new project files upon sync 14:17:03 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N853P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:19 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80C0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:18:09 <mikk36> oh :) 14:18:23 <mikk36> didn't think i could remove station pieces :P 14:19:39 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 14:19:57 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:21:10 <Jucciz> yea it works 14:21:37 <CIA-2> truelight * r6338 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (Makefile.in config.lib): [MakefileRewrite] -Add: 'make bundle' makes the bundle OSX wants so much 14:22:06 <CIA-2> truelight * r6339 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix r6338: don't copy blindly ;) 14:25:25 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37E63.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 14:26:52 *** Progman [~progman@p5091C7FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:03 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37E63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:41 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:34:35 <CIA-2> truelight * r6340 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (Makefile.in config.lib): 14:34:35 <CIA-2> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: !!OS!! was filled wrong 14:34:35 <CIA-2> -Fix: when running 'make bundle' for targets which have no bundle, give nice reply 14:35:45 <CIA-2> truelight * r6341 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: there is more chance to find data/ in ROOT_DIR/bin 14:38:56 <CIA-2> truelight * r6342 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: remove OSX bundle on clean 14:40:39 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 14:51:10 *** orudge [~orudge@host81-132-175-237.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 14:55:04 <MeusH> hey, how to say in english a thing on a petrol station that counts money to pay? Gas flews through it, also a foss is located there 14:55:09 <MeusH> thanks in advance 14:55:50 <Tron> you mean the petrol pump? 14:57:26 <MeusH> http://www.trawol.wv.pl/pics/dystrybutor.jpg 14:57:35 <MeusH> especially the part with digits 14:57:42 <Tron> that's a petrol pump 14:58:18 <MeusH> thanks a lot 14:58:52 <Wolf01> the part of the digits which measure how many litres of gas and how much you have to pay? 14:59:07 <MeusH> yeah, I'm the most interested in this part 14:59:11 <CoRnJuLIOx> the part you swipe the credit card into? 14:59:49 <MeusH> nah 14:59:50 <Wolf01> i think is called gasometer, directly translated from italian :) 14:59:58 <CoRnJuLIOx> whats the italian word? 15:00:18 <MeusH> gasometer seems to be some kind of a building :/ According to google images :) 15:00:19 <hylje> gas-o-meter 15:01:43 <guru3> ive just always called it the meter 15:01:48 <CoRnJuLIOx> yeah 15:01:54 <guru3> how many other meters will there be at the gas station? 15:01:54 <CoRnJuLIOx> just call it a gas meter or something... 15:02:41 <MeusH> Tron was the closest :) But thank you all http://www.epica-awards.org/assets/epica/2005/finalists/print/images/21071e%20%20%20DDB_Berlitz_PetrolPump.jpg 15:03:04 <Tron> the whole thing is the petrol pump 15:03:19 <MeusH> yep 15:03:28 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76F0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:04:10 <Tron> but i can't remember i directly referred to the display of a petrol pump in my whole life or even gave it a special name 15:04:43 <Bjarni> it's "the display" 15:04:51 <Kjetil> It's a part of the petrolpump why would you call it something different ? 15:05:13 <Tron> Super for 110.9 ... that was /some/ time ago 15:05:50 <CoRnJuLIOx> speaking of gas, why not introduce it as a new industry in ttd? 15:06:12 <Bjarni> CoRnJuLIOx: it's called petrol, not gas :P 15:06:31 <CoRnJuLIOx> its called gas here 15:06:32 <CoRnJuLIOx> :-/ 15:06:55 <Tron> Bjarni: americans even make a verb out of "gas" 15:07:12 <CoRnJuLIOx> "i've gotta gas up" 15:07:13 <Bjarni> I know the Americans violate the language 15:07:21 <Tron> "to gas up" -> "to refuel" 15:07:25 <Bjarni> CoRnJuLIOx: where do you live? 15:07:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> im in the Philippines right now, moved here from California 15:07:40 <Kjetil> American petrol prices *grr* 15:07:55 <CoRnJuLIOx> i've heard its -4 bucks a gallon 15:08:06 <guru3> i remember when it was less than a dollar 15:08:21 <guru3> wasn't that long ago at all 15:08:33 <CoRnJuLIOx> yeah 15:08:39 <CoRnJuLIOx> a year seems so short to me 15:09:00 <Tron> <CoRnJuLIOx> i've heard its -4 bucks a gallon <-- that's still dirt cheap 15:09:13 <CoRnJuLIOx> naw, really? 15:09:17 <CoRnJuLIOx> i dont think it is 15:09:20 <Kjetil> Here we pay 1.89 for a liter 15:09:34 <CoRnJuLIOx> ouch 15:09:48 <CoRnJuLIOx> 3-4 bucks a gallon does seem cheap, if i'm doing my math right 15:10:08 <Tron> 1.30 Euro for a liter 15:10:10 <Tron> here 15:10:21 <Tron> that's about 6.30 US Dollars per gallon 15:10:21 <guru3> like 12:-/liter here 15:10:33 *** orudge [~orudge@host81-132-175-237.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:10:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 15:11:13 <Wolf01> 1.445EUR for a liter here 15:12:45 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:13:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't been at the fuel station in a while... 15:13:28 *** exe [dgjk@83.2.70.89] has joined #openttd 15:14:01 <MeusH> 1.10EUR here... 15:14:06 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:14:30 <CoRnJuLIOx> i'd love to live in a place where you wouldn't need a car to get around 15:14:35 <CoRnJuLIOx> that would rock, wouldnt it? 15:14:58 <Tron> there's even a car on the moon, so what? 15:15:03 <Eddi|zuHause> well... i need a car to get around 15:15:07 <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't have one 15:16:18 <Kjetil> I would love to have a car, but it's to expensive :/ 15:24:00 <MeusH> Bicycle is great. But it's too easy to steal... 15:25:28 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5A2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26:39 *** JohnUK89 [~John@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 15:29:36 <JohnUK89> llo again :) 15:29:39 <JohnUK89> Ello* 15:30:35 <Eddi|zuHause> bicycle is not great if you have 8% hills on the way to the city 15:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> well... actually, it is valleys in an otherwise quite plain area 15:31:52 *** ZzztarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:32:29 *** ZzztarLite [~Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 15:33:13 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:55 <MeusH> I can get to school in 30 minutes on bicycle, or in 30-90 minutes by bus+tram (depending on traffic density) 15:34:54 <Eddi|zuHause> to get anywhere, i need 17 minutes by car, or 1h on the bus 15:36:29 <Tron> to get to uni i need 15 minutes by car, 40 minutes by bike or 45 minutes by tram+walk 15:36:40 <Wolf01> i have 20km to go to work, and i have to use the car to work sometimes, so i can't use a bicycle :) 15:37:42 *** JohnUK89 [~John@149.254.200.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:00 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80C0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B836BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:44:32 <Born_Acorn> I have so many new SVN Digests, I'm getting SVN Digests for my SVN Digests! 15:54:51 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-195-138.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:06 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@p54B81048.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:04:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B836BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:06:41 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-5447bbe0.wfd89b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:10:44 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:01 *** mikl [~mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:12:58 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has joined #openttd 16:13:45 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-544523c9.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:23 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-5447bbe0.wfd89b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:15:17 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-5447bbe0.wfd89b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:36:39 <CIA-2> truelight * r6343 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: remove () on function-headers, because not all systems like them ;) (tnx tokai) 16:38:06 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176125124.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:40:33 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176127144.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:41 <CIA-2> truelight * r6344 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: it is MORPHOS not MOPRHOS (nice catch tokai!) 16:50:11 <hylje> http://qdb.us/64488 win 16:52:05 <glx> nice one hylje :) 16:52:31 <hylje> i dont mark un-nice stuff as win 16:59:42 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 17:01:54 *** CoRnJuLIOx [~vircuser@202.128.58.251] has quit [Quit: Client exited] 17:02:23 <Eddi|zuHause> that looks _VERY_ evil ;) 17:02:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76F0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:03:01 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76F0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:25 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:37 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:24:37 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:28:20 *** jonty-comp [bottage@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:32:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-142-94.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 17:37:12 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22] 17:41:49 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:36 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [] 17:51:30 <Bjarni> damn you guys 17:52:12 <Bjarni> you overload the server with your constant chatting >_< 17:53:15 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:30 *** Progman [~progman@p5091C7FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:00:18 <Born_Acorn> Bjarni, or is it you, not constantly chatting enough? 18:00:25 <Born_Acorn> We will never know! 18:07:57 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:53 *** Svaini [~svaini@142.84-48-32.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 18:10:03 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has joined #openttd 18:10:32 <Svaini> suggestion to a new project: Settlers II .. the new settlers II remake(TNG) sucks :-0 18:10:59 <Kjetil> Settlers - Life is faudal instead :P 18:11:06 <Kjetil> feydal* 18:11:08 <Svaini> only thing that needs to be added is network support.. :P 18:11:46 <Tron> go ahead, write it 18:13:08 <Svaini> oh, if I had the time and knowledge, I would.. :-p 18:13:46 <Kjetil> hm.. nextgentel ja 18:14:16 <Kjetil> Svaini: du er vel ikke tilfeldigvis fra hommersåk ? 18:14:56 <Svaini> koss då? :-0 18:15:20 <Kjetil> For i så fall kjenner du vel Jarle 18:15:41 <Svaini> urdal?` 18:15:46 <Kjetil> mhm 18:16:01 <Kjetil> artig 18:16:17 <Svaini> leal 18:16:21 <Kjetil> Du har vel vært innom i døra noen ganger når vi har sett film der 18:16:40 <Svaini> trorkje det 18:16:52 <Turski> ... 18:16:52 <Tron> english 18:16:53 <Kjetil> hm.. ok 18:17:10 <Tron> or use /query 18:17:26 <Turski> norwegian? >;( 18:17:28 <ln-> what's wrong with klingon? 18:19:41 *** Guest6958183 [~Peach@87.54.16.34] has joined #openttd 18:20:26 *** Mistified [laptop@84.234.138.106] has joined #openttd 18:27:37 *** jonty_comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:27:37 *** jonty-comp [bottage@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:55 *** Progman [~progman@p5091C7FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:12 *** Guest6958183 [~Peach@87.54.16.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:51 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 18:54:34 *** Born-Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 18:56:07 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:07 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 18:57:28 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:50 *** grimrc1 [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:01:35 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 19:03:28 *** jonty_comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:59 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:05:09 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 19:05:24 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:12:50 <Eddi|zuHause> <Svaini> suggestion to a new project: Settlers II .. the new settlers II remake(TNG) sucks :-0 <- isnt there a Settlers 5 already? 19:13:46 <Noldo> yes, but there is something very legendary in II that is changed in 3+ 19:14:47 <Tron> it's called "road" 19:16:45 <Wolf01> one way roads require more array space? 19:17:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't played the later ones... 19:17:20 <Noldo> Tron: :) 19:19:14 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:21:41 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:22:48 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:23:18 <izhirahider> What would be cool would be a rollercoaster tycoon like game :) 19:23:36 <Born-Acorn> OpenRCT! 19:23:42 <izhirahider> right 19:23:47 <ln-> no 19:24:04 <Wolf01> no, if will be like locomotion 19:24:30 <Born-Acorn> RCT was, and still is one of the best sellers of all time. 19:24:54 <Born-Acorn> So you couldn't go wrong with an open source clone. (with new engine and graphics) 19:25:28 <Wolf01> RCT is perfect as is it 19:25:29 <Sacro> RCT3 is amazing 19:26:23 <Wolf01> mmm i want to reinstall RCT2 19:26:38 <smeding> RCT is nice 19:26:43 <Sacro> i want sex :( 19:26:50 <smeding> despite not having played much of RCT2 and none of RCT3 19:26:55 <Wolf01> me too 19:26:55 <smeding> Sacro: don't we all 19:28:14 <Sacro> mm 19:32:43 <MeusH> Sacro, so do I 19:32:53 <MeusH> hmm this may sound wrong 19:33:03 <MeusH> so let's say I want sex with a lady 19:33:09 <MeusH> I think you're not a lass, are you? 19:33:38 <Sacro> MeusH: errm...double negatives are never unconfusing 19:33:48 <Bjarni> MeusH: you mentioned sex and lady and then Sacro forgets to read any other words in your question :P 19:34:09 <Sacro> i dont think you get lasses in #openttd 19:34:12 <MeusH> :) 19:34:19 <MeusH> !grep lass #openttd 19:34:20 <Bjarni> Sacro: lesbians 19:34:21 <Sacro> cept LadyHawk 19:34:25 <Sacro> Bjarni: mmmmmmmmmmm 19:34:30 <Bjarni> see 19:34:40 <MeusH> woow I'm operator on #lesbians 19:35:38 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@p54B81048.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36:09 <Born-Acorn> woo! 19:36:14 *** Born-Acorn is now known as Born_Acorn 19:36:26 <Bjarni> while [ "1" ] do; echo "lesbian"; sleep 30; done 19:36:26 <Sacro> Born_Acorn! 19:36:33 <Born_Acorn> Sacro! 19:36:34 <Bjarni> that will keep Sacro busy forever 19:36:45 <Sacro> MeusH: now your screwed! 19:36:55 <Sacro> [20:39] * MeusH sets ban on *!*MeusH@*.crowley.pl 19:36:55 <Sacro> [20:39] <MeusH> :o 19:36:55 <Sacro> [20:39] * Sacro has kicked MeusH from #lesbians (MeusH) 19:36:55 <MeusH> oh noes :o 19:37:16 <Born_Acorn> I have six forms of hitting people with sticks! 19:37:31 <MeusH> oh noes again :p 19:37:32 * Sacro hits Born_Acorn with his stick 19:37:41 * MeusH hits Born_Acorn with a tusken stick 19:37:47 * MeusH hits Born_Acorn with a lightsaber stick 19:37:52 * MeusH hits Born_Acorn with a dildo 19:37:58 * MeusH hits Born_Acorn with a jelly stick 19:38:03 * MeusH hits Born_Acorn with a wooden shovel 19:38:08 * MeusH hits Born_Acorn with a sticky fish 19:38:14 <Tron> Bjarni: you always manage to complicate things: while true; do ... done 19:38:44 <MeusH> lol Bjarni you've been owned... any yeah, I wondered why 1 was a string 19:38:48 <Sacro> Bjarni: :( 19:39:05 <Bjarni> --- Bjarni sets ban on *!*@*.com 19:39:16 <Bjarni> Sacro's empire is ruined :P 19:39:19 <MeusH> :o 19:39:22 <Sacro> as is anyone under .com 19:39:30 *** qfh [~qfh@static-ip-62-75-161-163.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #openttd 19:39:35 <Bjarni> or .uk 19:39:38 <MeusH> --- MeusH sets ban on * 19:39:46 <MeusH> be afraid 19:39:48 <Tron> MeusH: all the "" in the line are superflous. there's nothing but strings in shell scripts 19:40:26 <MeusH> okies, thanks 19:40:32 <Tron> "" are only necessary in conjunction with whitespace and other special symbols 19:40:34 <Sacro> hahaha, im back 19:40:50 <Bjarni> if I wrote it too simple, then Sacro might figure out how it worked 19:41:16 * Sacro prods around 19:41:22 <MeusH> I think secret of Bjarni lies in teletubbies 19:41:32 <MeusH> let's kill teletubbies and see what happens with Bjarni 19:41:38 <Sacro> or vice versa 19:41:46 <MeusH> I think his eyes will pop up and go to hell :) 19:41:59 <MeusH> Bjarni will type "1" everywhere 19:42:15 <Bjarni> "1" everywhere 19:42:21 <Bjarni> hah, I beat you to it :P 19:42:50 * Sacro prods Bjarni with a cactus 19:43:18 * Bjarni is happily out of range of Sacro 19:43:43 <Bjarni> ok channel: grow up 19:43:49 * MeusH casts love spell on Bjarni. Bjarni is now in love with Sacro's cactus 19:43:53 <MeusH> ohh Sacro 19:44:02 <Bjarni> next guy to say something silly will be kicked 19:44:04 <MeusH> I don't want to measure you anymore 19:44:16 <MeusH> maybye Darkvater is still eager to do so, though 19:44:16 <Bjarni> ... 19:44:29 <MeusH> shh. I'm done 19:44:33 <Bjarni> that's not silly, that's crazy 19:44:58 <Bjarni> MeusH: you mean you got measured and now you want to measure Sacro for comparison? 19:45:08 <Bjarni> why Sacro????? 19:45:19 <MeusH> he asked to be a volunteer 19:45:25 <MeusH> but I'm afraid of his cactus 19:45:38 <Bjarni> yeah 19:45:50 <Bjarni> his cactus can be really vicious 19:46:56 <Bjarni> it's also very hard to outrun it 19:47:40 <Sacro> oh it is 19:48:40 * Bjarni sets ban on *!~cactus@*.com 19:48:46 <Bjarni> MeusH: I saved you 19:49:30 *** cacti [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:49:33 <cacti> :o 19:49:36 <MeusH> thank you Bjarni \o/ 19:49:40 * cacti chases MeusH 19:49:41 <MeusH> oh noes 19:50:01 * Bjarni sets ban on *!*@*.com 19:50:08 <cacti> oh :( 19:50:22 * cacti sets ban on Bjarni 19:51:19 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~cacti@*.karoo.KCOM.COM] by Bjarni 19:51:27 <Bjarni> my ban is more powerful :P 19:51:44 <cacti> ah but my body is more spikey 19:51:55 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~cacti@*.karoo.KCOM.COM] by Bjarni 19:52:59 <cacti> w00t 19:52:59 <Bjarni> ok playtime is over 19:53:19 *** cacti was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [usage of banned language] 19:54:03 <Sacro> :( 19:57:08 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:24 *** Zr40_ [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:57:27 * Bjarni remembers when #openttd was a channel about coding 19:57:45 * Sacro remembers when it was all about the game 19:57:49 <Bjarni> now it's just a playground for script kiddies and script kiddie wannabes :( 19:58:11 <Bjarni> maybe I better leave for a place where coding takes place 19:58:31 <Sacro> #newsignals :D 19:59:10 <Bjarni> you mean that channel got people, who can code? 19:59:21 <Bjarni> I mean besides when I happen to visit it 20:00:05 <Sacro> well, we are waiting for KUDr, but then i might try and get some people together and try and figure it out ourselves 20:00:14 <Sacro> try and implement as many signal types as possible/needed 20:01:04 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:04:15 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:06:15 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has joined #openttd 20:09:26 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6345 /trunk/ (window.c window.h): 20:09:26 <CIA-2> -Codechange: AllocateWindowDescFront() now ensures that window_number is set before calling the WE_CREATE event 20:09:26 <CIA-2> this allows using the window_number in WE_CREATE window event handlers 20:10:31 <Wolf01> 'night all 20:10:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host3-235.pool870.interbusiness.it] has quit [] 20:11:00 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:16 <MeusH> Darkvater! 20:17:27 <Bjarni> bbl 20:34:06 <CIA-2> tron * r6346 /trunk/ (gfx.c screenshot.c spritecache.c viewport.c): -Codechange: Remove redundant assignment 20:34:35 <CIA-2> tron * r6347 /trunk/ (gfx.c screenshot.c spritecache.c viewport.c): Undo 20:35:12 <CIA-2> tron * r6348 /trunk/viewport.c: -Codechange: Remove redundant assignment 20:36:22 <CIA-2> truelight * r6349 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: 20:36:22 <CIA-2> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: save CC, CXX, CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for a reconfigure (tnx Rubidium) 20:36:22 <CIA-2> -Note: I am unsure this behavoir is wanted, but not saving it is even more unwanted 20:42:03 *** Plouj [~Plouj@dsl-207-112-94-107.tor.primus.ca] has joined #openttd 20:42:06 <Plouj> hi 20:42:19 <Plouj> omg 20:42:22 <Plouj> Rens2Sea! 20:42:43 <Rens2Sea> Plouj O_O 20:43:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76F0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:44:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76BBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:39 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... looks i found my graphics card cooling problem... 20:46:53 <Eddi|zuHause> the fan does not run at all :p 20:47:36 <Plouj> so yeah 20:47:53 <Plouj> I was reading this: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/FAQ_installation 20:48:15 <Plouj> and at the bottom, it mentions something about the installer, and not needing to copy files if I use the installer, what installer is it talking about? 20:48:32 <Eddi|zuHause> it means that the installer searches for the files 20:48:36 <Eddi|zuHause> so you don't need to 20:48:49 <Plouj> and where does it search for files? 20:48:57 <Plouj> on my original ttd CD, which I don't own? 20:49:08 <Eddi|zuHause> in your existing TTD installation 20:49:11 <Plouj> ah 20:49:20 <Plouj> maybe, someone should make it a little clearer in that wiki page 20:49:47 <Rens2Sea> Plouj, http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=3407 20:50:10 <Plouj> lol 20:50:20 <Plouj> I already got TTD from the-underdogs, thanks rens 20:50:34 <Rens2Sea> fine 20:57:06 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:00:16 <Plouj> humm 21:00:57 <Plouj> where do I get sample.dat from? 21:01:13 <Plouj> sample.cat 21:04:10 <Plouj> nvm 21:04:39 <Jucciz> hm 21:04:44 <Jucciz> you need that one? 21:04:58 <Plouj> not anymore 21:05:19 * Plouj submits a bug for gentoo's OpenTTD ebuild 21:05:27 <Plouj> bah 21:05:28 <Plouj> nvm 21:05:29 <Plouj> rofl 21:05:37 <Plouj> it even said to copy that file, but I couldn't see it 21:15:12 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:16:55 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6350 /trunk/ (5 files): 21:16:55 <CIA-2> -Codechange: moved some setup stuff into WE_CREATE in PlayerVehWndProc() 21:16:55 <CIA-2> This is possible now that the window number is known when running WE_CREATE and it's a nicer solution 21:17:06 <Bjarni> AsterixMG: new conflict :P 21:17:59 <Bjarni> but it's a better solution than before 21:19:32 <AsterixMG> hehe, well, in the worst case i have to move all code around ;) 21:19:45 <AsterixMG> but i don't think it will make too much conflicts 21:21:15 <MeusH> Darkvater, ping 21:21:29 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, at the moment i'm trying to get stats for stations working again, but the displaying isn't working yet 21:22:00 <AsterixMG> i tried to reuse some existing strings just to find out, why i used new ones when i last tried :P 21:22:52 <Bjarni> heh 21:25:27 <Bjarni> you are not joining all of it in one patch, are you? 21:25:51 <Bjarni> list sorting should be in a patch with nothing else 21:25:52 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, no, i reverted all changes before i started with this 21:26:36 <Bjarni> tip: make a new checkout so you can have more than one patch applied at any time 21:26:48 <Bjarni> it reduces the time needed to switch between them 21:27:43 <Bjarni> right now I got 4 checkouts I worked in today 21:27:58 <Bjarni> most of the time I keep to just one though 21:28:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76BBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:28:41 <AsterixMG> hehe, i currently have 2 checkouts, but one of them has the complete old patch applied and is outdated 21:28:58 <AsterixMG> but its good for reference what i did back then 21:29:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76BBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:04 <AsterixMG> if you want to have a look at the stats-thing i could upload the current state, even though the display-code isn't finished 21:31:22 <AsterixMG> the list-building seems to work for the current code already, but now i need some code that needs the additional functionality to further test it :) 21:36:55 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [:---O] 21:42:52 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:50:57 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-124.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 21:52:08 <CIA-2> tron * r6351 /trunk/gfx.c: -Fix: Due to some off-by-one errors the width or height of a clipping rectangle could become 0, which isn't sensible. This should fix a very rare and hard to trigger assertion in GfxFillRect() 21:53:01 <Darkvater> \o/ Tron :D 21:53:21 <Bjarni> nice 21:54:19 <AsterixMG> hehe, some random asserts less \o/ 21:54:33 <Darkvater> eh no 21:54:38 <Darkvater> some random crashes less 21:54:40 <glx> looks like a FX#176 fix 21:54:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76BBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:54:43 <Darkvater> I don't give a damn about asserts 21:55:23 <Tron> assertions are very useful 21:55:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76BBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:36 <Bjarni> asserts are used to catch input conditions that you didn't expect and to help figure out what went wrong 21:57:30 <Bjarni> having a widget size of 0 could be regarded as unexpected input of widget size 21:57:58 <Bjarni> <glx> looks like a FX#176 fix <-- it also looks like a fix for the guy on the forum 21:58:06 <Bjarni> they all have one thing in common: slow computers 21:58:07 <Tron> glx: #176? thanks, this spares me searching for the bug report 21:58:28 <Tron> Bjarni: it has absolutly nothing to do with the speed of the system 21:58:48 <Tron> Bjarni: and it's not the size of a widget either 21:59:06 <Darkvater> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1458894&group_id=103924&atid=636365 << and this one 21:59:12 <Tron> if i write "clipping rectangle" i mean "clipping rectangle" 21:59:58 <Darkvater> slow computers? 22:01:01 <Bjarni> one of the bug reports mentioning that this happened more often on slow computers for some odd reason and the guy on the forum use a 400 MHz CPU. I fail to see how it could be related though 22:01:02 <Tron> hm, this looks strange 22:01:07 <Tron> the value cannot be < 0 22:01:12 <Tron> it can only be exactly 0 22:01:20 <Tron> and this should be a valid input for memset 22:01:27 <Bjarni> the code should act the same way nomatter the CPU speed 22:07:02 <Patrick`_> sounds like some bizzare thing 22:07:11 <Patrick`_> but conditions like that are more common in multithreaded 22:07:21 <SpComb> hmm... thread bugs 22:07:23 <Patrick`_> perhaps some OS operation that completes in the background too quickly 22:07:49 <Bjarni> OpenTTD is singlethreaded 22:08:00 <Bjarni> except for saving 22:08:07 <Tron> no, there's absolutly nothing complicated going on 22:08:12 <Tron> Bjarni: and music, and sound 22:08:22 <Tron> it is just a simple off-by-one error 22:08:24 <Bjarni> yeah 22:08:27 <Tron> as i said in the log 22:08:41 <Bjarni> maybe that is what they want us to think 22:08:49 <Bjarni> maybe it's caused by aliens 22:08:51 <Bjarni> :P 22:11:58 * Darkvater kicks Bjarni abducted by aliens? Perhaps, who knows 22:12:02 <Darkvater> shit 22:12:03 *** Guest56 [Gono@N792P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 22:12:07 *** Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by Darkvater [abducted by aliens? Perhaps, who knows] 22:12:08 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca21c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:12:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 22:12:29 <Darkvater> being too emote today 22:12:30 <Sacro> hmm 22:13:37 <Patrick`_> "we're both grown men, I'd like to think we're better than this" "well, you overestimate me." "touche." 22:14:43 *** orudge [~orudge@host81-132-175-237.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 22:15:33 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:17:15 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N721P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:11 * AsterixMG goes to bed 22:19:16 <AsterixMG> good night @all 22:19:20 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081910D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:20:23 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 22:22:31 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:23:35 *** Zr40_ [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24:33 <Sacro> 24759283595bc9b030a9386340bdec75 :( 22:26:49 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:27:41 <Sacro> arrrh.... its Mr GoneWacko 22:27:50 <GoneWacko> myes 22:28:30 <Sacro> brb 22:28:31 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:28:51 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-186-72.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:29:16 <Sacro> there, im back 22:29:32 <Sacro> (%BMem%B):%B[%B178/483M %C14[%C4|||%C3|||||||%C14]%C%B]%B 22:29:34 <Sacro> :| 22:29:59 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 22:29:59 <Sacro> !logs 22:30:23 <Sacro> whoo, coloured nicks 22:30:49 <Bjarni> Sacro: you are speaking garbage 22:31:02 <Sacro> Bjarni: meaning? 22:31:15 <Bjarni> <Sacro> (Mem):[178/483M [||||||||||]] 22:31:24 <Bjarni> ohh 22:31:26 <Sacro> ah that... was supposed to be memory dsiplay 22:31:33 <Bjarni> now I got a nice display 22:31:33 <Sacro> (%BKernel%B):%B[%BLinux 2.6.17-ARCH i686%B]%B (%BUptime%B):%B[%B51 min%B]%B (%BLoad%B):%B[%B0.58%B]%B (%BCPUCount%B):%B[%B1%B]%B (%BModel%B):%B[%BIntel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz%B]%B (%BClock%B):%B[%B2390.746MHz%B]%B (%BCache%B):%B[%B512 KB%B]%B (%BBogomips%B):%B[%B4785.94%B]%B (%BMem%B):%B[%B207/483M %C14[%C4||||%C3||||||%C14]%C%B]%B (%BTotal Space%B):%B[%B39.0G%B]%B (%BProcesses%B):%B[%B109%B]%B 22:31:36 <Sacro> :| 22:31:51 <Sacro> something somewhere is not quite right 22:31:54 <Bjarni> I got all sorts of and stuff and no colours at all when you say it 22:31:59 *** Eran- [eran-@garde.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:32:07 <Sacro> oh well :( 22:32:20 <Sacro> i should really stop playing with scripts 22:32:45 <Bjarni> now I had to message the last one to myself to see it :/ 22:33:16 <Sacro> how comes it dont work here :( 22:33:56 <Bjarni> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=27189 <-- speak up or do not complain once it's committed ;) 22:34:06 * Sacro commits Bjarni 22:34:33 <Sacro> the lellow one :D 22:34:44 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:35:01 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 22:35:10 <Bjarni> lellow? 22:35:23 <Sacro> yesm 22:35:45 <Bjarni> it's mandatory to write in English in this channel 22:36:12 <Tron> <Sacro> how comes it dont work here :( <--- because this channel is - for a very good reason - +c 22:39:24 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:39:56 <Sacro> Tron: ahh, so i need to find one that isnt :) 22:40:06 <Bjarni> try #lesbians 22:40:15 <GoneWacko> woo 22:40:16 <Bjarni> no wait, you got banned there :P 22:40:28 <valhallasw> _o- 22:41:04 <Sacro> Bjarni: im op now 22:41:10 <Sacro> cos it wanst registerd 22:44:10 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:27 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.146.96] has joined #openttd 22:48:00 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6352 /trunk/ (aircraft_cmd.c roadveh_cmd.c ship_cmd.c train_cmd.c): 22:48:00 <CIA-2> -Fix: FS#322 Send to depot bug 22:48:00 <CIA-2> now vehicles can't be sent to a depot when they are already inside a depot 22:48:00 <CIA-2> before they would remember the order and try to turn around when leaving the depot 22:49:33 <MeusH> Darkvater, let's measure 22:49:50 <Darkvater> .. 22:50:07 <Sacro> :o not again 22:51:19 <Bjarni> MeusH: Darkvater lack equipment to measure you. Less than 1 cm is simply too small 22:51:46 *** exe [dgjk@83.2.70.89] has left #openttd [] 22:51:47 <MeusH> Bjarni, you kinky boy, we're not gonna measure penises 22:52:00 <MeusH> we're about to do the coding job 22:52:44 <Darkvater> yes but not today MeusH 22:53:25 <MeusH> aww... how about sunday? 22:53:38 <MeusH> it's difficult to catch you recently :) 22:53:48 <Darkvater> perhaps. I have a project meeting on Monday 22:54:30 <MeusH> but are you going to have a spare time at home on sunday? 22:55:27 <Darkvater> MeusH: I do not know 22:56:44 <MeusH> okay... 22:57:15 <Darkvater> sorry about that, but RL's a bitch 22:57:58 <Bjarni> you got married? 22:58:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@63-182.2-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 22:59:00 <Bjarni> <MeusH> Bjarni, you kinky boy, we're not gonna measure penises <-- I didn't say that... you said it. I could also be referring to say hair length 22:59:36 <Sacro> <Bjarni> <MeusH> Bjarni, you kinky boy, we're not gonna measure penises <-- I didn't say that... you said it. I could also be referring to say hair length <- pubic hair? 23:00:32 <Bjarni> you guys are so kinky 23:00:42 <Bjarni> I was thinking about hair on the head 23:00:54 <Sacro> ;) strange place for hair 23:01:23 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-5447bbe0.wfd89b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:01:47 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-5447bbe0.wfd89b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 23:01:52 <Bjarni> no, the head with the brain activity, but I guess the difference is not that great in your case 23:01:59 <Sacro> oh thanks 23:02:40 <Sacro> mm, think i broke xchat 23:03:02 <Bjarni> wow, big surprise there :P 23:03:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-142-94.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:03:23 <Sacro> some peoples sentances on freenode start with + or - 23:03:34 <Sacro> its like a whopping great big diff file 23:04:45 <ln-> it's sentEnce, not sentance 23:04:56 *** CoRnJuLIOx [~vircuser@202.128.58.251] has joined #openttd 23:05:10 <Sacro> ln-: me fail english? thats unpossible? 23:05:27 <CoRnJuLIOx> hey are pre-signals disabled in the latest nightly build? 23:05:59 <Sacro> ln-: sentance gets 812,000 hits on googlefight 23:06:04 <Sacro> CoRnJuLIOx: shouldnt be 23:08:33 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-5447bbe0.wfd89b.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:41 <Sacro> hehe http://picasaweb.google.com/stereoroid/Planemash/photo#4969190156041322514 23:09:59 <CoRnJuLIOx> Sacro: I just built a route with a load of presignals and whoa does it not work right. 23:10:16 <Sacro> CoRnJuLIOx: hmm 23:10:34 <Bjarni> CoRnJuLIOx: I heard that one before 23:10:46 <Bjarni> so far they have all been the result of user errors 23:11:07 <CoRnJuLIOx> like making a station far bigger than its supposed to be? 23:12:29 <Bjarni> no, like placing signals incorrectly regarding types and where the junctions are 23:12:37 <Bjarni> station size should not matter 23:12:59 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 23:13:01 <Sacro> Bjarni: thats not what she said last night ;) 23:13:07 <CoRnJuLIOx> heh 23:13:19 <Bjarni> STATION size should not matter 23:13:44 <Bjarni> Sacro: damn you, but I guess it's not your fault 23:13:45 <Sacro> if the station is too small then the train wont fit in nicely 23:13:59 <Bjarni> you are a product of a bad environment 23:15:14 <CoRnJuLIOx> because whats happening is that two of my four trains are stuck in the station 23:15:33 <CoRnJuLIOx> the signals look fine, but they just keep moving back and forth, not doing anything. 23:15:47 <Bjarni> click on them, check heading for 23:15:54 <Frostregen> do you have a savegame? 23:16:05 <Bjarni> check that you didn't place one way signals facing the wrong way 23:16:56 <CoRnJuLIOx> Frostregen: yeah i got a savegame 23:17:17 <Frostregen> maybe its faster to look there 23:17:22 <Frostregen> link? 23:17:40 <CoRnJuLIOx> err..dont have a fileshare account (or whatever you call it) 23:19:51 <Frostregen> ftp? 23:19:59 <Faux> yousendit.com 23:20:17 <Frostregen> ftp://ottd:ottd@saddam.ath.cx/ upload it here 23:20:52 <Sacro> mmm, smokey bacon peanuts 23:22:18 <CoRnJuLIOx> ok just a second 23:22:24 <Bjarni> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=27189 <-- 44 views, 9 votes... the forum users do not really support democracy o_O 23:22:44 <CoRnJuLIOx> i was watching this tutorial video on sketchup, and it appears that flash brings my computer to around crawling speed 23:22:48 <Bjarni> less than 25% bothered to vote 23:23:39 <Nigel> Bjarni, accept a manual vote for #2 please 23:23:50 <Bjarni> looks like I made the screenshot, that's going to win (I made #1 and #2) 23:23:50 <Frostregen> maybe this 9 people just checked back 4 times ;) 23:24:08 <Bjarni> Nigel: why manual... didn't bother to log in? 23:24:23 <Nigel> Bjarni, i'm not even a forum member ;) 23:24:29 <Bjarni> why not? 23:24:31 <Stranger> I'm getting a "game synchronization failed" error 23:24:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> Frostregen: sorry, dont have an ftp account 23:24:40 <Bjarni> howdy Stranger 23:24:47 <CoRnJuLIOx> im trying this yousendit.com thing 23:24:51 <Stranger> hello Bjarni 23:24:55 <Frostregen> you mean client? 23:25:05 <Sacro> grrr, xchat isnt making the channels go bright red on messages 23:25:15 <Stranger> Bjarni I have T3 connection, but I keep getting that and repeated disconnects 23:25:18 <CoRnJuLIOx> arrgh, sorry i mean cliend 23:25:19 <CoRnJuLIOx> client* 23:25:20 <Stranger> sometimes I can play for hours w/ no problem 23:25:20 <CoRnJuLIOx> damn. 23:25:22 <Nigel> Bjarni, many reasons, one of them is 'can't be stuffed' 23:25:28 <Stranger> then it starts cutting out every few minutes 23:25:35 <Frostregen> ok...but i really don'T know any OS which does not have one 23:25:42 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:25:42 <Nigel> (for now at least) 23:26:07 <Bjarni> Stranger: desyncs are caused by server and client starts to play different games (hence the out of sync, desync), not by lack of bandwidth 23:26:26 <Stranger> hm 23:26:29 <Nigel> I got a 20 page report to write by the end of tonight (it's nearly midday), so yeah 23:26:36 <Stranger> and what about the repeated disconnects? 23:26:40 <Stranger> would that be the same reason? 23:26:50 <Stranger> or can comp usage come into play? 23:27:04 <CoRnJuLIOx> Frostregen: XP, for one, at least its not obvious to me. unless of course you can FTP with Firefox or IE... 23:27:27 <Frostregen> i think you can ...but not sure about upload 23:27:36 <Bjarni> Stranger: it happens if say the server builds a piece of road and your game fails to build it... this should not happen 23:27:37 <Nigel> CoRnJuLIOx, you can FTP and upload via IE 23:27:42 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:27:45 <Frostregen> you still have the FTP command 23:27:45 <Rubidium> CoRnJuLIOx: you can with IE and you have a commandline ftp 23:27:46 <CoRnJuLIOx> seriously? 23:28:15 <Nigel> CoRnJuLIOx, yeah, ftp://<ftpserver> 23:28:26 <Nigel> CoRnJuLIOx, same in Windows Explorer 23:28:27 <Stranger> hm 23:28:36 <Stranger> well, jsut that it happens so much 23:28:41 <Stranger> is it the version I"m using or something? 23:28:45 <Stranger> I use the latest edition 23:29:00 <Stranger> I got the original game from abandonware, but I had another too 23:29:08 <Stranger> both have the same issue 23:29:58 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:14 <Stranger> lol it just happened again 23:30:22 <Sacro> CoRnJuLIOx: check out FireFTP for firefox 23:30:39 <CoRnJuLIOx> ahh i c...ok im trying to upload it now, tell me if it works 23:30:41 <glx> Stranger: did you try "save the game and restart the server using the savegame" ? 23:30:43 <Frostregen> its here 23:30:48 <CoRnJuLIOx> horray 23:30:58 <CoRnJuLIOx> i learned something new today :-) 23:31:03 <CoRnJuLIOx> dont drink. 23:31:11 <Stranger> i'm not hosting 23:31:29 <glx> ask the host to do it :) 23:31:33 <Sacro> CoRnJuLIOx: beware danes bearing cheese 23:31:40 <Stranger> ok I've dumped extra cpu resources into game 23:31:44 <Stranger> let's see what happens 23:31:53 <Stranger> lol crashed agin 23:32:03 <Stranger> host isn't on 23:32:10 <Frostregen> CoRnJuLIOx: now i need some game info. ottd version? any newgrfs? 23:32:12 <glx> desyncs ARE NOT a cpu problem 23:32:27 <Sacro> glx: true 23:32:31 <CoRnJuLIOx> Frostregen: Using that powerful economy patch thats on the forums 23:32:33 <glx> Frostregen: give us the link 23:32:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> just search for a post in my name 23:32:48 <CoRnJuLIOx> and im usng the latest nightly build 23:32:52 <Sacro> glx: unless its an endian problem 23:33:03 <glx> CoRnJuLIOx: homemade build with some patches? 23:33:14 <CoRnJuLIOx> its r6282, if that helps 23:33:31 <CoRnJuLIOx> actually, there was a precompiled binary (windows) 23:33:39 <Sacro> CoRnJuLIOx: trunk? MiniIN? 23:33:46 <Frostregen> ftp://ottd:ottd@saddam.ath.cx/Tadhill_Transport.sav 23:34:11 <CoRnJuLIOx> Sacro: what do you mean? 23:34:25 <Sacro> nightly? 23:35:37 <CoRnJuLIOx> yeah 23:35:38 <glx> I can't load it with r6352 23:35:56 <Sacro> im just building 6304 23:36:25 <CoRnJuLIOx> crap. 23:36:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> i was trying to ctrl+t in windows explorer 23:36:53 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:37 <Sacro> :o A GIRL 23:37:40 <Sacro> ON IRC :D 23:37:40 *** exe [dgjk@83.2.70.89] has joined #openttd 23:37:50 <MeusH> goodnight 23:37:55 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: goodnight] 23:37:58 <CoRnJuLIOx> not a girl 23:38:05 <Sacro> Emma-chan on freenode 23:38:06 <CoRnJuLIOx> Frostregen: what exactly did you do? 23:38:19 <Sacro> lang/czech.txt:2862: warning: 'STR_VEH_WITH_SHARED_ORDERS_LIST' is untranslated. Tweaking english string to allow compilation for plural forms 23:38:26 <Frostregen> what do you mean? 23:38:31 <Sacro> player_gui.c: In function 'DrawPlayerEconomyStats': 23:38:31 <Sacro> player_gui.c:47: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type 23:38:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> the saved game i sent you 23:38:37 <Frostregen> i'm compiling 6282 right now 23:38:56 <Tron> Sacro: the warning in player_gui.c is a bug in GCC 4 23:39:08 <glx> I'm downloading 6282 nightly (faster than compiling :) ) 23:39:18 <Sacro> Tron: ah right 23:39:24 <Frostregen> you mean the ftp server? 23:39:31 <Frostregen> this does not come for free with windows 23:40:02 <CoRnJuLIOx> no i thought you messed with the save game 23:40:20 <Frostregen> hm 23:40:26 <Frostregen> whats the size of the file? 23:40:57 <CoRnJuLIOx> 86.7 kb 23:41:03 <Frostregen> exact? 23:41:09 <CoRnJuLIOx> thats how its reported 23:41:15 <Frostregen> look into properties 23:41:24 <CoRnJuLIOx> size on disk: 88.0 kb 23:41:31 <Frostregen> no the real size 23:41:33 <Frostregen> :) 23:41:43 <CoRnJuLIOx> 86.7 kb 23:41:52 <glx> use dir from cmd :) 23:42:04 <Frostregen> there should be a value in Bytes 23:42:10 <Frostregen> right behind the 86,7 23:42:57 <Sacro> openttd: saveload.c:806: SlLoadChunk: Assertion `SlGetOffs() == endoffs' failed.Aborted <-- theres the problem lads 23:43:17 <Frostregen> yup 23:43:26 <glx> yes bad savegames or unknown settings in it 23:43:34 <Frostregen> ok...wheres this economy patch? 23:43:48 <CoRnJuLIOx> tt-forums 23:44:13 <CoRnJuLIOx> made by a guy named Haukinger 23:45:09 <Frostregen> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=14819 this one? 23:45:29 <Sacro> ooh, LUG meet tommorow 23:45:49 <Stranger> what version of openttd are you guys running? 23:45:56 <Sacro> please let there be someone more linuxy than me :( 23:46:07 <Sacro> last time it was me, 1 mac user, and 3 ubuntu guys 23:46:09 <CoRnJuLIOx> not exactly 23:46:23 <Sacro> Stranger: head 23:46:32 <Stranger> head? 23:46:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25925&highlight= 23:46:38 <CoRnJuLIOx> down at the bottom 23:46:39 * Sacro likes head >< 23:48:01 <Stranger> ;/ 23:48:04 <Stranger> this sucks ;( 23:48:06 * glx wonders why this patch is not in dev forum 23:48:40 <Frostregen> maybe it started as an idea 23:51:36 <CoRnJuLIOx> Frostregen: exact file size 88,848 23:51:49 <Sacro> CoRnJuLIOx: your file uploaded fine 23:51:52 <Sacro> i got it right here now 23:52:21 <Frostregen> ok 23:54:52 *** Svaini [~svaini@142.84-48-32.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:02 <CoRnJuLIOx> brb breakfast time