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00:03:40  <LionsPhil> OpenTTD == brilliant. Thank you guys greatly.
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05:18:36  <roboboy> hello
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05:59:09  <Dmitry> morning all :)
06:00:03  <Dmitry> who can tell me, is it possible to play OpenTTD without mouse ??? Only with keyboard ???
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06:19:30  <peter1138> no, not really
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06:30:32  <roboboy> hello
06:30:44  * roboboy is angry at the other ttd
06:30:57  <roboboy> it auosaved after the bankrupt message
06:31:00  <peter1138> ?
06:31:02  <peter1138> ah
06:31:09  <peter1138> heh
06:31:25  <peter1138> only one autosave?
06:31:26  <roboboy> TTDP
06:31:28  <roboboy> yep
06:31:39  <roboboy> my last save was two game years ago
06:32:02  <roboboy> it saves over the top with autosave
06:32:16  <peter1138> o_O
06:32:41  <roboboy> im hoping i can wind back time and remove the message
06:33:14  <roboboy> cheating back wont fix it
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06:34:43  <CIA-2> peter1138 * r6475 /trunk/industry_gui.c: - Fix (r6055): Don't try to sort industries when there are none. Thanks to 'Delboy'
06:36:57  <roboboy> is rick 67 still working on speed signs or the equivelent for YAPF
06:40:00  <roboboy> someone beat me to adding it to the OTTD wiki
06:42:04  <peter1138> hmm?
06:42:13  <peter1138> adding what?
06:42:36  <roboboy> restricted signals
06:42:53  <roboboy> the equivelent of ricks speed signs for ttdpatch
06:42:59  <peter1138> richky
06:43:00  <peter1138> errr
06:43:02  <peter1138> richk
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06:45:11  <roboboy> Rhick67
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06:51:41  <Nigel> wtf, i'd never had the openttd music
06:51:54  <mikk36> wee.. mirc powa :)
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07:04:37  <peter1138> whee, news hounds
07:05:39  <roboboy> its realy hot here
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07:59:15  <Prof_Frink> peter1138: news hounds?!
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08:39:12  <CIA-2> miham * r6476 /trunk/lang/hungarian.txt: [Languages] Small change to trigger a full language scan in WT2 to reconstruct damaged DB
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10:05:10  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... is that commit as "wtf" as i think it is?
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10:12:10  <Gonozal_VIII> ist für mich jeder commit, weil ich vom proggen null ahnung hab^^
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11:20:40  <grimrc> anyone like the dragging patch?
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11:21:16  <lubosh> hi, what time usually people play online?
11:21:48  <roboboy> i think in an hour or two
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12:44:27  <Darkvater> hi guys
12:44:34  <Darkvater> very important question :P
12:44:52  <Darkvater> if you were going to England for five days. What would you pick: Wales or South-West England?
12:46:10  <grimrc> what kind of experience are you after?
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12:47:54  <Darkvater> boring tourist crap ;p
12:48:04  <Darkvater> mostly nature, castles
12:48:28  <Darkvater> we were planning an Isle of Scilly trip if not going to Wales
12:48:31  <Prof_Frink> Darkvater: If you're going to England, don't go to Wales, 'cause it ain't England
12:48:54  <Prof_Frink> and it contains Born_Acorn
12:49:46  <Darkvater> Great Britain then :)
12:49:59  <Darkvater> I would've loved Scotland but it's too damn far away by car :(
12:50:12  <scia> Uknighted Kingdom
12:51:51  <zcram> Queendom
12:51:59  <zcram> rather
12:52:07  <zcram> (!)
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13:12:29  <Belugas> Darkvater : if i had to go to Great Britain, i'll make it so that meeting some fellow ottd-ers would be possible :)
13:13:54  <Darkvater> well...if orudge were to invite me... ;)
13:17:46  <Prof_Frink> I thought you said Scottishland was too far
13:19:04  <Darkvater> but if he invites me... send a plane ticket or something :)
13:20:02  <Darkvater> << going back to planning
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15:00:40  <jez> docs
15:00:45  <jez> o
15:00:47  <jez> heh
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15:53:50  <BLooDMaN> Hello, i'am trying to start dedicated server on gentoo... where openttd 0.4.8 is searching for openttd.cfg if it is installed by emerge ??
15:55:38  <hylje> a sec
15:57:03  <hylje> not sure
15:58:31  <TinoM> ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg , BLooDMaN
15:59:29  <TinoM> when you start the server (client) first, the dir should be created
15:59:47  <BLooDMaN> thx a lot
16:03:50  <Prof_Frink> Does openttd also check /etc/openttd.cfg for global settings? If not, it should!
16:04:38  <Belugas> Why?  Says who?  Based on what? Since when?
16:04:46  <hylje> /etc/games/openttd.cfg :(
16:09:51  <zcram> /usr/games/etc/openttd.cfg
16:09:59  <zcram> :D:D:D:D
16:10:09  <zcram> that should be the proper place, no?
16:10:21  <zcram> damn fhs
16:13:02  <mikk36> ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg is just fine
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16:34:21  <BLooDMaN> if it will search in /etc/ it will be better i think
16:35:55  <blathijs> BLooDMaN: nope, since you want each user to have their own openttd settings
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16:37:13  <BLooDMaN> ~/.. will overide settings in /etc/...
16:37:32  <BLooDMaN> such as .htaccess in Apache )
16:39:40  <BLooDMaN> and are you panning to add to openttd an opportunity to start as deamon and to write log files to /var/log/..  ??
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17:10:15  <Brianetta> blackis: It's already possible
17:10:16  <Brianetta> er
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17:10:21  <Brianetta> BLooDMaN: It's already possible
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17:25:47  <BLooDMaN> how can i start opettd as deamon then???
17:27:51  <BLooDMaN> Brianetta:  how can i start opettd as deamon then???
17:29:04  <Brianetta> BLooDMaN: Depends what you want it to do.
17:29:09  <Brianetta> What do you want it to do?
17:29:53  <Brianetta> openttd -D -f will make it background itself for daemon use.
17:30:07  <Brianetta> Unfortunately, you mentioned logging, which requires a wrapper script.
17:30:21  <Brianetta> Since I just happen to have written a wrapper script, you can modify that one.
17:30:44  <Brianetta> Of course, you'll need to write your own init script for system start-at-start
17:30:52  <Brianetta> but you can easily copy others
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17:32:54  <Prof_Frink> init? upstart!
17:33:19  <BLooDMaN> where can i get your script?? thx.
17:35:33  <Brianetta> Search the forum for autopilot
17:35:55  <grimrc> not set up a wiki page yet Brianetta?
17:35:59  <Brianetta> It'll need heavy modding, but it can easily log important events for you.
17:36:16  <Brianetta> grimrc: There's a manual on the openttdcoop wiki
17:37:04  <grimrc> oh; not been there; I read your forum post though
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17:38:27  <grimrc> oh Brianetta's German
17:38:48  <Prof_Frink> grimrc: ?
17:38:59  <grimrc> just pointing out the obvious
17:39:03  <Prof_Frink> blueyonder.co.uk?
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17:39:39  <grimrc> oh maybe he's a German in the UK
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18:02:43  <CIA-2> peter1138 * r6477 /trunk/station_cmd.c: - Fix a loop-hole that allowed docks to be built regardless of town authority rating.
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18:30:26  <CIA-2> miham * r6478 /trunk/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
18:30:26  <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-18 20:28:13
18:30:26  <CIA-2> american - 26 fixed by WhiteRabbit (26)
18:30:26  <CIA-2> catalan - 6 fixed, 2 changed by arnaullv (8)
18:30:26  <CIA-2> dutch - 24 fixed by habell (24)
18:30:28  <CIA-2> french - 4 fixed, 1 changed by glx (5)
18:30:28  <CIA-2> german - 12 fixed, 1 changed by Neonox (13)
18:31:02  <MiHaMiX> hungarian  - 4 fixed by miham (4)
18:31:02  <MiHaMiX> polish     - 2 fixed by meush (2)
18:31:02  <MiHaMiX> slovak     - 16 fixed by lengyel (16)
18:31:03  <MiHaMiX> turkish    - 3 fixed by jnmbk (3)
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19:28:47  <MeusH> hi
19:29:28  <scia> aye!
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21:53:19  <roboboy> gmorning
21:53:47  <Sacro> oh noes, tis a roboboy
21:53:48  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
21:53:48  <Sacro> !logs
21:54:16  <roboboy> ill be off to school in a few minutes and then to the zoo
21:54:26  <Sacro> heh, the zoo?
21:57:48  <roboboy> yep, for english
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21:58:31  <Sacro> roboboy: they teach english at the zoo?
21:58:48  <roboboy> heh
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21:59:50  <roboboy> bye
21:59:54  * roboboy school
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22:01:58  <Sacro> lws1984!
22:02:03  <lws1984> Sacro!
22:02:28  <Sacro> lws1984!
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22:08:25  <Prof_Frink> Sacro1984!
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22:09:27  <lws1984> :p
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22:12:54  <Sacro> Ammler_away: no spam please (dont change nicks)
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22:21:52  <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i don't quite understand that last commit... it says 8 files, but i count 9 languages...
22:23:32  <Bjarni> well spotted
22:24:18  <Bjarni> it forgot to commit Polish
22:25:15  * Prof_Frink polishes Bjarni's bald head
22:25:47  <Bjarni> that's not needed
22:25:53  <Bjarni> polish my steam engine instead
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22:30:29  <Sacro> ><
22:30:45  <Sacro> * Prof_Frink polishes Bjarni's bald head <- NOT IN PUBLIC
22:31:35  <Sacro> any poles around?
22:32:23  <Eddi|zuHause2> a north pole and a south pole? :)
22:32:44  <Prof_Frink> They're not around.
22:32:52  <Prof_Frink> There over there and over there
22:33:00  <Sacro> "Kurwa ma?!! Cfelu zajebany!! Odbierz sukinsynie bo Ci kurwa nogi z dupy powyrywam KUTASIE!!!!" in english anyone?
22:33:05  <Eddi|zuHause2> in germany we have a saying "Kaum gestohlen, schon in Polen" ;)
22:33:12  <glx> Sacro: ask MeusH
22:33:14  <Prof_Frink> Sacro: bless you
22:33:22  <Sacro> Prof_Frink: thanks :p
22:33:34  <Sacro> actually, could ask my stepmum, shes fluent in polish
22:33:52  <MeusH> that isn't nice sentence
22:34:13  <Eddi|zuHause2> mine? or his ;)
22:34:20  <MeusH> Sacro's
22:34:29  <Eddi|zuHause2> (because mine really isn't ;))
22:34:30  <MeusH> I don't know what does Kaum gestohlen mean
22:34:54  <Sacro> MeusH: i got it over skype, though i dont speak it
22:35:12  <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/19808 <-- don't try that at home :D
22:35:14  <MeusH> so, Sacro, here it is:
22:35:15  <MeusH> Fuck! You fucking gay! Answer the phone son of the bitch or I'll get your legs out of your ass
22:35:25  <Eddi|zuHause2> "kaum" means something between "hardly" and "just"
22:35:36  <MeusH> also what does mean "shon"
22:35:48  <Bjarni> <Sacro>	* Prof_Frink polishes Bjarni's bald head <- NOT IN PUBLIC <-- I told him to polish my steam engine, not to lube the rod(s) as well ;)
22:35:58  <Eddi|zuHause2> "schon" means "already"
22:36:21  <MeusH> Sacro: do NOT say it to your stepmother unless she pisses you very much
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22:36:36  <MeusH> and how about gestohlen? stealed?
22:36:40  <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: we don't say that here, but we might as well do
22:36:45  <Bjarni> we got the same issue :(
22:36:53  <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah... though the correct word is "stolen" ;)
22:37:04  <Eddi|zuHause2> steal, stole, stolen
22:37:11  <Bjarni> "just stolen, soon to be in Poland"
22:37:19  <Bjarni> that would be the right translation, right?
22:37:24  <MeusH> Bjarni: great qdb :D
22:37:26  <Eddi|zuHause2> it doesn't rhyme in english ;)
22:37:37  <Prof_Frink> "Stolen!?" "Sto-len?" "Who by?" "Zaphod Beeblebrox."
22:37:50  <MeusH> lol :D
22:38:10  <MeusH> It's funny to know there are such a sentences somewhere in the foreign lands :)
22:38:15  <Eddi|zuHause2> Bjarni: "already" is better translation than "soon"
22:38:20  * Prof_Frink can quote hhgttg far more than is healthy
22:39:07  <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: well, it can be mighty hard if not impossible to translate something so it keeps the meaning and still rhymes
22:39:18  <Neonox> Eddi|zuHause2: lol  immer diese dt sprüche....  *g*
22:39:19  <Eddi|zuHause2> Prof_Frink: Hä? (that would rouhgly be translated as "wtf?", although it is more polite ;))
22:39:57  <Sacro> MeusH: err, thanks for that translation :|
22:39:58  <Neonox> lol
22:40:18  <Bjarni> MeusH: the reason for such sayings is that the Polish mafia is sending people here to steal. It's not like we think all Polish people steal
22:40:38  <Bjarni> even thought that might be the case
22:40:41  <Eddi|zuHause2> the correct translation is "Sorry, i did not understand that last sentence of yours, would you be so kind as to explain it to me, please?"
22:40:41  * Bjarni hides
22:40:57  <Neonox> There is also another sentence: "Kommen sie nach Polen! Ihr Auto ist schon da!"
22:41:09  <Bjarni> LOL
22:41:26  <glx> Neonox: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/336
22:41:41  <Eddi|zuHause2> "Polnischer Triathlon: hin fahren, dort schwimmen gehen, nach Hause laufen."
22:41:50  <Neonox> Eddi|zuHause2: ROFL
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22:42:29  <Bjarni> LOL
22:42:40  <Bjarni> MeusH: I see that you enjoy the company :P
22:43:07  <MeusH> umm
22:43:10  <Eddi|zuHause2> sorry, i don't know any bad jokes about danes ;)
22:43:11  <MeusH> do we have a mafia?
22:43:17  <MeusH> I didn't hear about polish mafia
22:43:21  <Bjarni> well
22:43:24  <Neonox> glx: what is wrong?
22:43:41  <Bjarni> <MeusH>	I didn't hear about polish mafia <-- maybe it's because they moved over here :(
22:43:45  <glx> Neonox: dunno but you are a translator :)
22:43:49  <MeusH> yeeeah
22:44:02  <glx> Neonox: if there's no problem I can close it
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22:44:12  <Neonox> glx: ok. i don't see anything wrong....
22:44:16  <MeusH> however I heard about several thousand of poles who went to Italy and Spain to gather strawberries
22:44:20  <Bjarni> Neonox: are you sure?
22:44:21  <MeusH> and they were controlled by mafia
22:44:23  <Bjarni> the guy added a space
22:44:29  <Neonox> Bjarni: no
22:44:45  <Bjarni> he did add a space. The question is if it is correct to do so
22:45:10  <Bjarni> "nach{STATION}" -> "nach {STATION}"
22:45:16  <Bjarni> I think the space is needed
22:45:17  <Neonox> ah. i will delete the space
22:45:26  <Bjarni> no, not delete
22:45:27  <Bjarni> ADD
22:45:30  <Bjarni> ;)
22:45:54  <Neonox> ??  to late for me. what??
22:45:54  <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2>	sorry, i don't know any bad jokes about danes ;) <-- that's because we are perfect :D
22:45:58  <MeusH> be afraid of polish mafia and add the space
22:46:06  <MeusH> remember, I know many people in polish mafia
22:46:10  <MeusH> now be nice to me ;P
22:46:15  <Sacro> polished mafia?
22:46:23  <Neonox> now i see. the space is correct
22:46:26  <MeusH> with shiny metall asses :D
22:46:30  <MeusH> oh, maybye not metal
22:46:53  <Bjarni> Neonox: yeah, so add it since according to the bug report, it's missing in the trunk :)
22:47:23  <Bjarni> MeusH: you mean your friends are as selfish as Bender?
22:47:45  <Bjarni> then you can't rely on them to help you when you most need it
22:47:55  <Neonox> Bjarni: changed.
22:48:00  <Bjarni> we can just pay them to beat you instead :P
22:48:10  <Bjarni> Neonox: good :)
22:48:18  <Neonox> Bjarni: woof woof
22:48:29  <Bjarni> down boy
22:48:32  <Bjarni> DOWN
22:48:39  <Bjarni> damn
22:48:41  <Bjarni> bad boy
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22:48:49  <Neonox> wooooooff
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22:54:33  <Bjarni> ok
22:54:37  <Bjarni> that's proof enough
22:54:57  <Bjarni> Germany really is the chained guarddog of Europe
22:55:14  <Sacro> and whats holland?
22:55:25  <Prof_Frink> Sacro: herb garden.
22:55:39  <Sacro> Prof_Frink: ah
22:55:53  <Sacro> and every now and then the dogs go and piss on it
22:57:52  <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, especially at football events ;)
22:58:07  <Sacro> damn germans...winning at footbal
22:58:25  <Prof_Frink> *cough*fiveone*cough*
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22:59:27  <Sacro> *cough* WW2 *cough*
23:00:14  <Prof_Frink> Yarr!
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23:00:50  <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2, Neonox: I just realised something. Based on the jokes you just told, it might tell us what party you voted for yesterday
23:00:54  * Bjarni hides
23:01:12  <Eddi|zuHause2> that vote was elsewhere
23:01:26  <Bjarni> I had a feeling you would say that
23:01:28  <Sacro> YARR
23:01:28  <Eddi|zuHause2> besides, it has nothing to do with that
23:01:30  <Bjarni> :)
23:01:49  <Eddi|zuHause2> i heard the pirate party didn't make it in sweden...
23:01:55  <Eddi|zuHause2> could have been funny ;)
23:01:59  <Sacro> shame, me harties
23:02:17  <Neonox> Bjarni: BJARNI ! ! !    RUN ! ! !   RUN FAST ! ! ! !
23:02:25  <Bjarni> hehe
23:02:32  <Neonox> that's not funny
23:02:44  <Bjarni> hmm
23:02:51  <Eddi|zuHause2> but if you are really interested, on all elections i voted for the left party ;)
23:03:06  <Bjarni> I forgot to write (since I have nothing else to base this one)... That kind of ruined my statement :(
23:03:09  <Eddi|zuHause2> (formerly PDS)
23:03:23  <Neonox> oh. the left left :))
23:04:00  <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: so you are not a Nazi, but a Communist?
23:04:09  <Eddi|zuHause2> well... yeah ;)
23:04:13  <Bjarni> do you have a picture of Stalin at home?
23:04:15  * Bjarni hides
23:04:32  <Neonox> Bjarni: I thin kyou like it playing with your life..  :-)
23:04:36  <Sacro> thats nowt, now a picture of Stalin in a strip joint...
23:04:37  <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't think so...
23:04:56  <Bjarni> come to think about it, I think I got a picture of him in a book
23:05:17  <Bjarni> encyclopaedias and stuff tend to have such pictures
23:05:34  * Neonox has a picture with signature from Gerhard Schröder
23:06:27  <Bjarni> he is kind of red as well, right?
23:06:47  <Neonox> yes
23:07:40  <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, but very light red
23:08:32  <Sacro> ? :o
23:09:08  <Eddi|zuHause2> reminds me of another saying: "Früher riefen sie alle 'Honni', jetzt rufen sie alle 'Hunni'."
23:09:40  <MeusH> What's up with Honni and Hunni?
23:09:42  <MeusH> please
23:10:13  <Bjarni> btw about the election in Sweden. "Sveriges Demokraterne" (a party, that's against continuous streams of people from other countries) had an ok election. Totally they didn't make it to parlament, but locally they got up to 30% of the votes. I presume they got 0% elsewhere since they didn't get enough totally
23:10:32  <Eddi|zuHause2> Honni refers to Erich Honecker (former leader of east germany) and the Hunni means Hundred Mark (or meanwhile Euro)
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23:14:21  <MeusH> goodnight guys
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