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00:00:05 <jez> wow 00:00:09 <Bjarni> real life is a bit more brutal 00:00:12 <jez> Charlize Theron looks like she's had facelifts 00:00:42 <Bjarni> there is a railroad not far from here. Last year, they can over around one dog for each km of railroad track 00:00:47 <Bjarni> now that was a bad year 00:01:01 <Born_Acorn> http://www.whr.co.uk/history/gallery/61_Crossing.jpg <-- It will be interesting when they rebuild that. 00:01:02 *** Trenskow [~outlet@3e6b6861.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:01:30 <Born_Acorn> A grade crossing of different railway companies with different gauges 00:01:39 <Born_Acorn> rare. 00:01:45 <Bjarni> and it should teach people to keep their dogs on a leash when they plan to cross a railroad crossing if they aren't sure that they can stop their dogs 00:02:16 <Bjarni> nice pic 00:02:43 <Born_Acorn> They should be re-installing it the end of this month 00:02:56 <jez> there used to be a TV station in this country, Live TV 00:02:57 <Bjarni> nice 00:03:00 <jez> unfortunately it died 00:03:05 <jez> shame, i liked it better than bravo 00:03:15 <jez> i particularly like the naked games they used to play and the naked weathergirls 00:03:33 <jez> oh, Bravo has Aqua Teen Hunger Force 00:03:36 <jez> never really care much for that 00:04:15 <Born_Acorn> Irony Force 5. 00:04:19 <Bjarni> wtf 00:04:26 <Bjarni> naked weathergirls o_O 00:04:27 <Born_Acorn> Their job is to make the Hunter become the hunted. 00:04:55 <Bjarni> are they talking about the weather forecast in the humid venus hills or something? 00:08:33 <jez> gawd 00:08:44 <jez> Aqua Teen Hunger Force was made by some illiterates in the Bronx or something 00:08:46 <jez> badly 00:09:52 <Born_Acorn> It's apparently popular with a lot of internet users. I've seen a few sig-images with em on some forums. 00:10:02 <Born_Acorn> and the Wikipedia article is big. 00:11:25 <Lehti> :o 00:11:30 <jez> hmm i watched a half decent the other one 00:11:32 <jez> what was is 00:11:34 <jez> *it 00:11:36 <jez> erm 00:11:58 <CIA-1> glx * r6817 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: set svn:eol-style for vs80 files 00:14:13 <jez> 'kissably soft lips'? 00:14:13 <jez> heh 00:14:24 <jez> this is on a channel that says "entertaining men since 1985" 00:14:28 <jez> maybe they're catering for transsexuals 00:15:25 <jez> omfg 00:15:30 <jez> another ad for computeach.co.uk 00:15:55 <jez> "i've already got a great career in IT and i'm still studying" 00:16:00 <jez> he's probably a secretary that uses Word 00:17:19 <Bjarni> !openttd commit 6803 00:17:22 <_42_> Commit by Darkvater :: r6803 /trunk/ (5 files) (2006-10-17 17:59:41 UTC) 00:17:24 <_42_> -Codechange: Substitute magic numbers by an enum for the news windows 00:17:42 <Bjarni> hmm 00:17:53 <Bjarni> the Email I got says: 00:17:54 <Bjarni> Log: 00:18:01 <Bjarni> and that's it 00:18:27 <ln-> hmmm, ~60EUR for flights tampere-liverpool-tampere... wouldn't be bad. 00:18:38 <glx> [19:59:44] <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6803 /trunk/ (economy.c news.h news_gui.c players.c station_cmd.c): 00:18:38 <glx> [20:00:06] <@Darkvater> OMG I left off the commit message :s 00:18:40 <jez> '12 oz Mouse' 00:18:43 <jez> this is so f*cking weird 00:18:45 <Bjarni> maybe *somebody* screwed up and edited the log after the email was generated 00:19:02 <Bjarni> glx: LOL 00:19:54 <Bjarni> goodnight 00:20:13 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c16.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:20:54 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 00:28:18 <Born_Acorn> Word to yo momma 00:28:24 <Born_Acorn> (MS Word, that is) 00:34:51 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:35:41 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp15-49.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:46:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> 02:18] <jez> '12 oz Mouse' <- what is that in a real measurement unit? 00:51:12 *** jez [gencon@cpc3-stkn4-0-0-cust630.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 00:53:30 <Lehti> 1 oz = 3/4 of a shot 00:53:40 <Lehti> :) 00:53:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> hmm... i guess that kind of question overloaded his brain 00:56:01 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@p57A0E913.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:03:44 *** lws1976 [~lwslade@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:04:14 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: HA!] 01:07:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> Lehti: shot sounds rather like a volume measurement unit... 01:11:37 <Lehti> yes.. 01:12:41 <Lehti> Imperial units... what a mess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_unit 01:13:49 <Lehti> 1 ounce = 28.349 523 125 g 01:29:31 <ln-> is that a mess? 01:30:12 <ln-> 1 gram = 0.0352739619 ounces 01:30:18 <ln-> that's a mess too. 01:33:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> but it's an internationally organized mess ;) 01:34:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> in germany, each country had its own measurement system 01:34:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> with 200 countries, that is a lot of mess ;) 01:35:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is one of the reasons why the metric system is used in germany for quite a long time now 01:36:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> even the occasionally used "Pfund" (pound) got metrificated to exactly 500g 01:42:00 <ln-> gaaah, isn't there *any* cheap accommodation in liverpool? 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11:14:20 <Born_Acorn> peter1138 will commit it right now if you buy him tickets to a strip bar. 11:14:54 <jez> peter1138: talking to me? 11:15:00 <peter1138> yes 11:15:05 <jez> i think i fixed the issues 11:15:13 <jez> seen version 4 of the patch? 11:16:24 <peter1138> i don't know 11:16:59 <jez> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=495587#495587 11:18:10 <peter1138> Downloaded: 0 Time(s) 11:18:11 <peter1138> heh 11:18:18 <Born_Acorn> The GUI is now teh sexy 11:18:27 <Born_Acorn> woo. 11:19:08 <jez> that's because i only just uploaded it 11:19:54 <Born_Acorn> Hawt off the presses! 11:20:12 <jez> :-) 11:20:24 <peter1138> still got the same problems 11:20:48 <jez> oh? 11:20:51 <jez> what are they 11:22:31 <peter1138> same as before... 11:23:43 <jez> sorry, i thought i'd fixed them 11:23:53 <jez> made a function of the button label drawing 11:24:02 <jez> enumerations instead of magic numbers 11:24:17 <jez> indenting according to the coding guidelines 11:25:12 <peter1138> ok, where to start 11:25:20 <peter1138> hm, at the bottom 11:25:28 <peter1138> type=FC_CM -> type = FC_CM 11:25:56 <peter1138> case 6: if (FC_GENDER_ETH_COUNT==0 || FC_GENDER_ETH_COUNT==2) {FC_SETTIEEAR(0);} break; 11:26:00 <peter1138> -> 11:26:02 <peter1138> case 6: 11:26:19 <peter1138> if (FC_GENDER_ETH_COUNT == 0 || FC_GENDER_ETH_COUNT == 2) FC_SETTIEEAR(0); 11:26:21 <peter1138> break; 11:26:26 <jez> ugh 11:26:46 <peter1138> if (!toadd) {toadd--;} -> if (toadd == 0) toadd--; 11:27:06 <jez> because toadd isnt a boolean? lol 11:27:10 <peter1138> correct 11:27:15 <jez> if you say so 11:27:56 <peter1138> if ((thisval % 16) >= 15) {thisval-=((thisval%16)-14);} 11:28:23 <peter1138> well, we discussed those ones 11:28:42 <jez> and that formula was fine... 11:29:57 <peter1138> so if (a > 100) a -= (a - 100); is fine? 11:31:31 <jez> wouldn't it be, if it were followed by eg. if (a > 105) a -= (a - 100); 11:33:22 <jez> hmm 11:33:28 <jez> hang on a minute 11:36:56 <jez> how would you better write it? 11:37:13 <jez> thisval = thisval % 16 + 9? 11:37:50 <jez> instead of {thisval-=((thisval%16)-9);} 11:37:58 <peter1138> no 11:38:31 <jez> then how 11:39:52 <peter1138> probably if (GB(thisval, 0, 4) > 14) SB(thisval, 0, 4, 14); 11:40:16 <peter1138> i admit, it's fortunate that it's % 16, instead of say % 17... 11:40:18 <jez> why on earth would you use GB() 11:40:23 <jez> mod 16 is a damn sight clearer 11:40:37 <peter1138> if (thisval % 16 > 14) SB(thisval, 0, 14, 14); then ;p 11:40:44 <peter1138> er 11:40:48 <peter1138> 4 :P 11:41:04 <jez> again you're relying on the value being exactly 4 bits 11:41:11 <peter1138> yes, which it is 11:41:12 <jez> using % 16 in the assignment is clearer 11:41:24 <jez> yeah but this way you can immediately read that it's a series of blocks of 16 11:41:29 <jez> your way you have to work it out 11:41:34 <peter1138> thisval -= thisval % 16 - 14; is clear? 11:41:42 <jez> thisval = thisval % 16 + 9 11:41:45 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 11:41:45 <jez> that's pretty clear to me 11:41:53 <Celestar> morning :) 11:41:56 <peter1138> my god 11:41:58 <jez> actually that wouldnt work 11:42:04 <peter1138> ltns, celestar :) 11:42:10 <Celestar> hows life peter1138 ? 11:42:11 <peter1138> hello and stuff 11:42:22 <peter1138> ah, busy busy 11:42:25 <Celestar> he 11:42:31 <Celestar> welcome to the club :P 11:42:33 <jez> no you need to rely on the existing value of thisval 11:42:35 <peter1138> (but not to busy to be pedantic with coding style) 11:42:38 <jez> which means you need to subtract from it 11:43:00 <jez> so i think the way i've used is the clearest without using SB, which i dont like the idea of 11:43:26 <jez> thisval -= thisval % 16 - 14 11:43:47 <Celestar> so what has been happening lately? 11:43:54 <Darkvater> you haven't :) 11:43:56 <Darkvater> hi Celestar 11:44:10 <jez> get thisval, subtract from it the remainder of a division by 16 (minus 14) 11:44:17 <peter1138> ok 11:44:19 <peter1138> how about... 11:44:21 <Celestar> hi Darkvater :) 11:44:37 <peter1138> use > rather than >= 11:44:45 <peter1138> then you end up with the same 'magic number' in both parts 11:44:52 <peter1138> and adding a comment ;p 11:44:59 <jez> could do that 11:45:00 <peter1138> "this limits the value of blah blah" 11:45:07 <peter1138> and also 11:45:13 <peter1138> less ( ) :) 11:45:15 <Celestar> I mean any macroscopic changes to trunk? 11:45:22 <jez> Celestar: tons. 11:45:30 <Darkvater> Celestar: no 11:45:41 <peter1138> trunk has been removed 11:45:42 <jez> since 0.4.8? heh 11:45:48 <Darkvater> Celestar: only bjarni has been unifying some vehicle gui windows 11:45:57 <Celestar> ok 11:46:01 <Darkvater> Celestar: and peter1138 is about to add utf8 11:46:05 <peter1138> i am? 11:46:07 <peter1138> hmm, ok 11:46:27 <Darkvater> aren't you? :) 11:46:31 <peter1138> well 11:46:36 <peter1138> i suppose it could be 11:46:48 <peter1138> depends on if anyone has objections, improvements, etc 11:46:56 <peter1138> i mean, it's 'my' branch, but i don't own it ;p 11:47:17 <peter1138> and yay, scan are sending out replacement hardware 11:49:41 <Born_Acorn> commit it! 11:49:47 <Born_Acorn> and it's utf-8ness! 11:51:05 <jez> peter1138: any other patch comments while you're on the topic? 11:51:54 <peter1138> yeah 11:52:01 <peter1138> i've got an itch in the middle of my back 11:52:07 <peter1138> know any women around to scratch it? 11:52:29 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 11:53:04 <jez> no comment 11:53:35 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:55:41 <jez> so i take it the rest of it is ok. :-) 11:58:14 <peter1138> well, i've not actually tested it 11:58:28 <peter1138> i'm assuming it works.... 11:58:31 <jez> others have, seems to be fine 11:58:41 <Darkvater> is it the face patch again? 11:58:48 <jez> no Darkvater 11:58:50 <jez> pay no attention 11:59:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> *handwave* these are not the errors that you seek 11:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> *handwave* move along 12:00:22 <roboman> gnight 12:00:32 *** roboman is now known as robobed 12:00:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> *mental note* i should really watch those films in english some time... 12:01:06 <Darkvater> Southpark the movie? 12:01:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i actually meant star wars, but southpark could do too ;) 12:02:19 <hylje> watch it in english with english-chinese-english subtitles 12:02:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> oh yeah, i heard of that :p 12:03:26 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:06:00 *** roboboy [~leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:07:10 *** Frostregen__ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-176-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:07:30 *** Frostregen__ is now known as Frostregen_ 12:09:42 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 12:10:14 <Celestar> man 12:10:18 <Celestar> Xgl is really funny 12:12:25 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-218.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:12:27 <peter1138> yeah 12:12:50 <hylje> xgl + openttd <3 12:13:02 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-156-143.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:13:11 <peter1138> my graphics card is too slow to use it, really 12:13:20 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:13:23 <Celestar> did not really try openttd in Xgl yet, any problems? 12:13:32 <peter1138> no, it works fine 12:13:32 <Darkvater> you have to disable 32b visuals 12:13:36 <peter1138> it's just a lot slower 12:13:40 <Darkvater> XARG_32B_VUSIAKLJD or something 12:13:50 <peter1138> depends, i don't appear to need to any more 12:14:03 <peter1138> (only for rdesktop, heh) 12:14:04 <Darkvater> hmm, or was that only composite? 12:14:08 <Celestar> well 12:14:12 <Celestar> lets see :P 12:14:14 <Darkvater> peter1138: he, where'd you read that? 12:14:35 <hylje> you need to pass an env var to SDL in order to have OTTD looking usable 12:15:05 <Celestar> which env var are we talking about? 12:16:06 <hylje> XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 12:16:37 <peter1138> read? experienced, more like 12:16:38 <Darkvater> hylje: that's not to SDL that's to the x-server 12:16:41 <Celestar> er hylje 12:16:49 <Darkvater> peter1138: and you couldn't tell me??? 12:16:59 <Celestar> openttd on Xgl works just fine here without any tinkering with settings 12:17:00 <peter1138> Darkvater: uh, i found out after you 12:17:03 <Darkvater> it took me a month to figure it out after contacting the au 12:17:05 <peter1138> cos i saw your posts about it 12:17:10 <Darkvater> he 12:17:21 <peter1138> so, essentially, you told me, but you didn't know it 12:17:23 <hylje> k 12:17:40 <Celestar> XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 <= I do not need this either 12:17:52 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90.224.32.143] has joined #openttd 12:17:54 * peter1138 needs a faster pc 12:18:09 <peter1138> openttd @ 640x480, with xgl 12:18:13 <Celestar> Athlon 3500+ here 12:18:15 <peter1138> i can see the redraws if i scroll around 12:18:21 <Celestar> nothing spectecular 12:18:25 <peter1138> 800 :P 12:18:48 <Celestar> but a Geforce 6600GT 12:18:50 <peter1138> gah, this merge has decided the whole of openttd_vs80.vcproj is conflicted 12:18:54 <peter1138> gf2mx 12:18:58 <Darkvater> :O 12:18:58 <peter1138> == bit underpowered 12:19:05 <Darkvater> you can say so 12:19:08 <Celestar> hm 12:19:24 <Darkvater> I bought an FX5600 about a year ago used 12:19:32 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-218.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:19:37 * Celestar reads through his commit statements in his Fortran Project. He needs to be more politically correct 12:19:40 <peter1138> well, i'd like to upgrade, but there's this PCIe thing now 12:19:53 <Darkvater> peter1138: buy one used on ebay 12:20:27 <Darkvater> works really well. About 60% of my pc consists of used online-bought parts at ebay, marktplaats, etc. 12:20:41 <Celestar> hehe 12:20:56 <peter1138> i just want a whole new pc ;p 12:21:00 <Darkvater> you usually don't get scamed if you buy 'old' stuff 12:21:02 <peter1138> but i put it off what with buying the house 12:21:12 <peter1138> this project file is 3800 lines, hehe 12:21:27 <Celestar> -Fix: repaired some preprocessor directives which got messed up in the merge process. I shall not comment about 12:21:30 <Celestar> the nesting of preprocessor directives inside a function call ... 12:21:33 <Celestar> :P 12:21:57 <Celestar> I haven't done any coding in 6 months, neither @work nor for openttd 12:22:04 <Celestar> somehow I miss it :P 12:24:30 <peter1138> heh 12:25:48 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:31:57 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90.224.32.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:58 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:48 <peter1138> 22:39 #openttd: <@Darkvater> peter1138: r6810 memset(&res, 0, sizeof(*res))? 12:32:50 <peter1138> Darkvater: nope 12:33:06 <peter1138> the memset is slower 12:33:24 <Celestar> slower than ? 12:33:26 <Darkvater> and bad, I know, talked it out last evening 12:33:33 <peter1138> oh 12:33:39 <peter1138> with who? :P 12:33:42 *** Progman [~progman@p5091ED6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:53 <Darkvater> I think it was glx who pointed out some 12:34:22 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90.224.32.143] has joined #openttd 12:34:26 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90.224.32.143] has quit [] 12:34:54 <peter1138> well, moving the memset to the beginning would make sense 12:35:00 <peter1138> but as it's slower... 12:35:16 <peter1138> (that's a not a bjarni-style assumption either ;)) 12:39:52 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:42:13 <Darkvater> hmm I don't think vpn works from withing a virtual machine :S 12:42:23 <Celestar> hm_ 12:42:42 <Darkvater> and on a slightly different topic: setting up a vpn connection on linux sucks so much! I can't even do it :( 12:42:44 <Celestar> that depends on whether the VPN survives the bridging 12:42:57 <Celestar> Darkvater: openVPN is easy enough to set up 12:43:57 <Darkvater> Celestar: it died for me at the tun/tap setup 12:44:03 <Darkvater> so gay, so gay :( 12:44:07 <Darkvater> or perhaps it's just me 12:44:11 <Born_Acorn> Omg! It's Celestar, back from t'grave! 12:44:13 <Celestar> hm 12:44:14 <Born_Acorn> omg! 12:44:19 <Celestar> heyho Born_Acorn 12:44:27 <Born_Acorn> Hello! 12:45:25 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/measure.diff < what do we think of this? Not show the gui tooltip when the selection is only 1 tile. I am not exactly happy with it, to have to do 3 times findwindow/deletewindow. ideas, suggestions? 12:46:46 <peter1138> argh, syncing is too big ;( 12:46:53 <Celestar> syncing what? 12:47:02 <peter1138> utf8 branch 12:47:09 <Celestar> ah := 12:47:12 <Darkvater> too many conflicts? 12:47:41 <peter1138> no, lots of changes 12:48:11 <peter1138> Darkvater: Window *w = FindWindoerById(); DeleteWindow(w); -> DeleteWindowById() ? 12:48:25 <peter1138> -er+w o_O 12:49:11 <Darkvater> hmm couldn't find that function 12:49:40 <Darkvater> motherfuc.. 12:49:46 <Darkvater> why the fuck is that in functions.h? 12:49:49 <peter1138> *shrug* 12:50:35 <Celestar> I was kind of hoping that functions.h and variables.h were gone meanwhile 12:50:38 <Darkvater> coding in vim is not so productive ;pp 12:50:44 <Celestar> what about the map cleanup btw? 12:50:47 <Celestar> coding in vim rocks 12:50:48 <Darkvater> some work has been done on it 12:51:00 <Darkvater> peter1138: well ok, besides that. it's still 3 times the same 12:51:26 <peter1138> intellisense :D 12:52:05 <Darkvater> yeah that rules 12:52:08 <Darkvater> Celestar: what map cleanup? 12:52:27 <Celestar> well 12:52:36 <glx> Darkvater: modify GuiShowTooltipsWithArgs() to not show empty tooltips and pass it an empty string 12:52:43 <Celestar> moving all map access to *_map.[ch] 12:53:46 <Darkvater> glx: that would be specializing the function 12:54:07 <Darkvater> glx: eg it doesn't know, or better said shouldn't know what the parameters (params[]) passed to it mean 12:54:14 <Celestar> 3,2T 3,0T 250G 93% /nfs/home 12:54:16 <Celestar> bah 12:54:27 <Celestar> users are greedy :S 12:55:01 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.220.79] has joined #openttd 12:55:56 <glx> if (paramcount != 0 && !_patches.measure_tooltip) return; --> if (str == STR_NULL || (paramcount != 0 && !_patches.measure_tooltip)) return; 12:56:04 <glx> should work for all tooltips 12:56:15 <Kalpa> QQ :( 12:56:17 <Celestar> hey glx 12:56:21 <Celestar> QQ? 12:56:34 <hylje> QQ is usually crying 12:56:35 <Kalpa> It's like T_T, indicating tears ors omething 12:56:55 <Kalpa> My beloved 60gig hard drive causes blue screen whenever I try to access anything in there :( 12:57:09 <Kalpa> I can browse the directory structure but trying to open any file causes a blue screen of death 12:57:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> get a real OS ;) 12:57:40 <Kalpa> Eddi|zuHause2: I think a real OS will not bring dead HD back to life, or would you say? :P 12:57:56 <Celestar> but it will not BSOD ÖP 12:58:02 <Celestar> :P 12:58:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe not, but it could at least tell you why it is failing ;) 12:58:05 <hylje> kernel panic! 12:58:06 <Kalpa> "Ö" :< 12:58:22 <Kalpa> Eddi|zuHause2: I completely agree with that though. Or more likely it will just say "can not access" or whatever. 12:58:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> Celestar has used a qwerty keyboard for too long ;) 12:58:42 <Darkvater> glx: hmm, that is possible. Then the STR_ for the tooltip isn't constant anymore, but it's doable 12:58:49 <Kalpa> The blue screen actually givfs some info too, but it seems I have some 'boot on system error' on somewhere, and no idea where to disable it, so when the BSOD flashes for 1 second I really can't make jack out of it:> 12:59:04 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause2: I'm just not sure what keyboard layout to use 12:59:13 <Kalpa> Eddi|zuHause2: How come, Ö is right on top of :, very easy to typo! ;) 12:59:33 <Darkvater> I had windows crash every 60 minutes (exactly 60 minutes!) when one of my HD's was dying 12:59:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ö on qwertz is on the same key as : on qwerty 12:59:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> (iirc) 12:59:50 <Celestar> I prefer qwerty actually 13:00:08 <hylje> dvorak! 13:00:18 <Kalpa> Celestar has a qwertz now? :< 13:00:23 <Celestar> I have both 13:00:29 <Kalpa> Meep. 13:00:32 <Celestar> I just have to press a button in gnome :) 13:00:44 <Kalpa> Darkvater: Your Windoze probably did something to that HD at exactly 60minute intervals then ;) 13:00:45 <Darkvater> you're typig on a virtual keyboard? :) 13:01:42 <Noldo> Celestar: how hard is it to change between them, mentally I mean 13:01:47 <Kalpa> You're all geeks and stuff so I'll just disregard your "Oh holy *nix" -commentary and mourn the loss of seasons 3-9 of X-Files, and I was only halfway season 6. :( 13:01:50 <Celestar> Noldo: not at all 13:02:05 <Celestar> it's like changing from one car to another 13:02:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> Kalpa: did you even _TRY_ to recover it? 13:02:31 <Darkvater> Kalpa: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/587331 13:02:34 <Kalpa> Eddi|zuHause2: No, I just realized it gives me bluescreens 5 minutes ago ;) 13:02:35 <Darkvater> fuckin' windows 13:02:37 <Celestar> just sometimes, I have some windows with qwerty and other windows with qwertz ... then things get nasty 13:02:59 <Celestar> hm ... talking about windows .. Microsoft doesn't really WANT anyone to use Vista, right? 13:03:07 <Noldo> ugh 13:03:53 <Kalpa> Anyway the HD has been failing for like almost a year now, I'm surprised it lasted even this long. :> 13:03:54 <Celestar> poeple WHY are we getting all the crap at devs@openttd.org? 13:04:15 <peter1138> lots of spammers :( 13:04:20 *** Trenskow [~outlet@3e6b6861.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 13:04:39 <Celestar> moo moo 13:04:45 <Kalpa> Celestar: Are you still envious of any large game manufacturer's inbox? :P 13:05:00 <Celestar> lol 13:08:21 <Celestar> hm... 13:08:27 <Celestar> freecell is too easy :P 13:08:49 <Darkvater> why is windows so goddamn stupid to always rearrange my desktop icons on hibernate/user switch? 13:08:53 <Darkvater> fuuck 13:11:18 <Celestar> well 13:11:21 <Celestar> good question 13:11:30 <Celestar> if you know it, you can become MS head developer :P 13:11:57 <peter1138> hmm, opening the sln file's not doing anything :/ 13:13:11 <Darkvater> ottd? 13:14:29 <Celestar> sln? 13:14:29 <peter1138> yeah 13:14:32 <Celestar> wtf is sln? 13:14:34 <Darkvater> works for me 13:14:37 <Darkvater> 2005 13:14:47 <glx> works here too same version :) 13:14:54 <peter1138> maybe i should try closing other projects first 13:14:55 <Darkvater> 2003 as well 13:17:43 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:18:32 * Darkvater kicks CIA-1 13:18:32 <CIA-1> ow 13:20:46 <peter1138> now i've forgotten what i was going to do 13:20:51 <Darkvater> open sln file 13:21:09 <Darkvater> Celestar: Solution file. Visual studio uses this container for 'projects' 13:21:24 <Darkvater> Celestar: eg openttd has 3 projects strgen/langs/openttd in the solution 13:22:14 <Celestar> uh huh 13:22:21 * Celestar stays with vim 13:27:20 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 13:29:06 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/measure.diff < good idea glx, looks even better :) 13:30:13 <peter1138> what if you've got height only? ;) 13:30:41 <Darkvater> since it is not shown on a single tile, there is no possibility of height :) 13:30:49 <peter1138> :) 13:31:19 <peter1138> ok, i shall get rid of functions.h 13:31:22 <peter1138> objections? 13:31:27 <Darkvater> :O 13:32:04 * valhallasw objects 13:34:19 <Darkvater> peter1138: just show the diff beforehand, I'm curious 13:36:34 <hylje> http://hylje.fi/files/phoenix.gif 13:36:39 <hylje> objection! 13:42:01 <Born_Acorn> I demand a .ni website 13:42:15 <Born_Acorn> knights-who-say.ni 13:42:46 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90.224.32.143] has joined #openttd 13:42:49 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6820 /trunk/ (console_cmds.c network.c network_data.h network_gui.c): 13:42:49 <CIA-1> -Codechange: Some more const correctness, coding style. 13:42:49 <CIA-1> -Codechange: Add FOR_ALL_ACTIVE_CLIENT_INFOS macro that will loop all clients 13:42:49 <CIA-1> skipping inactive ones. 13:52:38 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90.224.32.143] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52:45 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90.224.32.143] has joined #openttd 14:19:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:22:50 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6821 /trunk/ (misc_gui.c viewport.c window.h): 14:22:50 <CIA-1> -Codechange: For the measurement tool do not show the tooltip when the selection 14:22:50 <CIA-1> is only a single tile. Seems this was a bit annoying to some ;) 14:28:02 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: /quit] 14:38:08 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:43:45 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@p57A0FF2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:44:45 <CIA-1> glx * r6822 /trunk/viewport.c: -Fix r6821: add type for measure_strings_length[] 14:45:15 <Darkvater> :O 14:45:38 * Darkvater hides in shame 14:45:52 <Prof_Frink> Silly Darkvater 14:48:22 <Belugas> he's only human, after all, as we all are :D 14:48:36 <Darkvater> gay.. vc didn't even give a warning 14:48:55 <glx> strange 14:48:56 <Prof_Frink> I'm not. 14:52:28 <Brianetta> vc? 14:52:35 <Darkvater> visual C 14:52:40 <Brianetta> visual C? 14:52:54 <DaleStan> Microsoft Visual Studio 14:52:57 <valhallasw> does that exist? 14:53:01 <Brianetta> Microsoft Visual Studio? 14:53:08 <valhallasw> I know visual c# and visual c++, but visual c? ;) 14:53:12 * Brianetta is riding a wave of incredulity 14:53:37 <Brianetta> It sounds like my idea of development environment hell 14:53:45 <Brianetta> Does it crash a lot? 14:53:50 <Darkvater> never 14:53:57 <Brianetta> Even though it runs on Windows? 14:54:07 <Darkvater> ye 14:54:11 <peter1138> ... 14:54:16 <peter1138> i've crashed it enough... 14:54:31 <Brianetta> I can't see myself using a dev environment from a company with such an amazing security record 14:54:47 <Brianetta> It probably compiles the exploits in directly 14:54:49 <DaleStan> If nothing else, it's got one of the easiest-to-use debuggers I've ever seen. 14:55:14 <Darkvater> I think we're having this discussion for the zillionth time :) 14:55:17 <Brianetta> I debug the old fashioned way. I stare at my code until I am enlightened. 14:55:32 <Darkvater> but either you like it or not, VS is the best dev environment ever 14:55:43 <Brianetta> How's its cross-compiler? 14:56:03 <DaleStan> As good as the compiler you configure it to use. 14:56:29 <Darkvater> Brianetta: that's like asking: how's KDevelop's compiler, or Eclipse's 14:56:33 <Prof_Frink> Brianetta: bloody furious 14:56:34 <DaleStan> But the default compiler stinks at cross-compiling, AFAIK. 14:56:58 <Brianetta> Oh, it's an IDE, not a set of compilers? 14:57:06 <Brianetta> I was confusing it with binutils and gcc 14:57:14 <Darkvater> it has a compiler 14:57:18 <Brianetta> (as a concept, not a product) 14:57:43 <Brianetta> My only dev environment is vim (or sometimes gvim) 14:57:47 <DaleStan> It's an IDE that comes with a compiler, but you're welcome to set it up to use a different compiler. 14:57:48 <Brianetta> and the shell 14:58:16 <blathijs> #troll vim 14:58:47 <Brianetta> At college I used Turbo Pascal (the DOS variety) and we edited our COBOL code in Word for DOS 14:58:51 <Darkvater> DaleStan: I think it also means changing all the arguments passed to the compiler? Or are there preset-plugins for gcc? 14:59:05 <DaleStan> Probably not. 15:00:12 <DaleStan> I've convinced VS to build TTDPatch's makelang and mkpttxt (which require NASM to assemble texts.asm), but that's the extent of my using-a-nonstandard-compiler experience. 15:01:31 <peter1138> hmm 15:08:36 *** Noldo [vheino@lame.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:40 *** Noldo [vheino@lame.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 15:13:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:14:40 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:15:55 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC52A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:39:05 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-143.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:59:17 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-225-093.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:44 <Darkvater> which one would we prefer? http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/chatbox.png 16:03:49 <Darkvater> 3 is the current one 16:05:13 <Born_Acorn> 1z0rs 16:05:17 <Sacro> 2 16:05:20 <Sacro> z0rs 16:05:23 <Born_Acorn> (I have a PhD in TTD lookability) 16:05:51 <Sacro> would that make you Dr Born_Acorn? 16:06:07 <Born_Acorn> yes. 16:06:26 <Born_Acorn> 1 makes sense, as the X is to the left everywhere else in TTD-Gui-Land 16:06:30 <Sacro> is it? 16:06:34 <Darkvater> or no X at all? 16:06:36 <Sacro> hmm, 1 then :p 16:06:47 <Sacro> Darkvater: no X, but escape closes the window 16:06:49 <Darkvater> just found that a bit weird for people who don't know how to press 'enter' or 'escape' 16:07:02 <Born_Acorn> There are such people. 16:07:03 <Sacro> i dont think escape closes it does it? 16:07:03 <Born_Acorn> :p 16:07:04 <Darkvater> Sacro: esc already closes window 16:07:08 <Sacro> ooh :P 16:07:13 <Sacro> thats clever 16:07:18 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:07:50 <peter1138> 1 16:09:02 <Darkvater> you're the boss :) 16:09:28 <Belugas> I like 2 better 16:09:29 <Darkvater> Sacro: did you know that CTRL+U deletes all entered text? 16:09:40 <Sacro> Darkvater: no... i did not, since when? 16:09:46 <Darkvater> since about a year 16:09:52 <Sacro> couldnt we have CTRL+Z, its nearer and is undo 16:09:54 <Brianetta> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6059726.stm 16:09:59 <peter1138> 2 makes it too easy to press X or Send when you meant to press the other one 16:10:01 <Brianetta> A warning to all the trolls (: 16:10:06 <Darkvater> Sacro: CTRL+L clears console window 16:10:11 <peter1138> ^U is clear line since... forever 16:10:19 <Darkvater> Sacro: you can paste stuff from windows 16:10:32 <Darkvater> hehe 16:10:35 <Sacro> Darkvater: i never knew all this! 16:10:40 <Darkvater> pay attention! 16:10:55 <Brianetta> Can't paste from X )-: 16:10:58 <Darkvater> now all I need to code is 1. enter newlines if chat message is too long 16:11:04 <Sacro> Darkvater: im trying my best 16:11:06 <Darkvater> and 2. scroll textbox if you want to enter more text 16:11:12 <Darkvater> Brianetta: nobody coded it :) 16:11:32 <Darkvater> I believe tron gave it a try but had some conflicts 16:11:35 <Brianetta> Does Ctrl-W delete words? 16:11:38 <Belugas> peter1138 : true, but it is not like others X positions... 16:11:57 <Belugas> maybe a panel between send and x then... 16:12:02 <Belugas> a blind spot kinda 16:12:15 <Darkvater> Brianetta: hehe :) no 16:12:41 <Brianetta> I think chat should be replicated into a window instead of the console 16:12:45 <Darkvater> bleh I can't tell the window code to align text to the left/right 16:12:52 <Brianetta> so that a player can open the chat window to see the chatlog 16:12:52 <Darkvater> it's always centered :/ 16:12:55 <Brianetta> and move it about 16:13:15 <Brianetta> and resize it, scroll it, etc 16:13:23 <jez> Threatening exchanges 16:13:23 <jez> The pair met in an internet chatroom called Yahoo, Islam 10 as both had an interest in the Muslim faith, the Old Bailey was told. 16:13:27 <jez> ^ the way of Islam 16:15:56 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:17 <Born_Acorn> Yahoo kills all. 16:16:26 <Born_Acorn> Kids! Don't do Yahoo! 16:17:06 <jez> i tried the yahoo chatrooms out a while back 16:17:15 <jez> i didn't know anyone still used them 16:17:26 <jez> they were full of zombies and bots coming in advertising crap 16:18:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Sacro> couldnt we have CTRL+Z, its nearer and is undo <- U is right next to Z :p 16:19:11 <Darkvater> we don't have undo 16:19:15 <Darkvater> ottd is only for smart people 16:19:28 <Darkvater> reload! http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/chatbox.png 16:19:33 <Darkvater> how's 0? 16:19:36 <jez> i'd hijack the up/down arrows whilst the chatbox is on display for scrollback/forward 16:19:41 <jez> similarly to mIRC 16:20:01 <Darkvater> that can be done if a chatlog history window is coded 16:20:12 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: no, Z is cut 16:20:28 * Sacro slaps forehead DAMNIT IM CONFUSED 16:21:01 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: im talking about your bog standard qwertY keyboard :P 16:21:33 <glx> Darkvater: 0 is nice 16:22:17 <Darkvater> jez: if you code me the chat history winow I'll commit it 16:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i never had a qwerty keyboard :p 16:22:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i know really few people who have one 16:22:49 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C1E2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:22:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:22:59 <glx> I have an azerty :) 16:23:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> so statistically, almost nobody in the world uses them :p 16:23:00 <Brianetta> I can't right-click URLs ): 16:23:19 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387C1E2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:23:39 <jez> tell ya what i'd like 16:23:39 <Belugas> Yeah for 0 16:23:48 *** Tron_ [AP9UxDns@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:23:48 <jez> a filter on internet games that lets me prevent maps over 256x256 16:23:51 <jez> and maybe some other criteria 16:24:01 <Darkvater> Belugas: jst a minute ago you were for 2 :) 16:24:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> someone made a network filter patch 16:24:21 * Brianetta retrieves URL from log file 16:24:40 <Belugas> i checked what the conventional guis looked like in the game ;) 16:25:08 <Brianetta> Darkvater: 1 and 2 are least ugly 16:25:13 <Belugas> Sometimes, my memory is playing tricks on me o_O 16:25:18 <jez> Darkvater: if you commit the face customizer patch i'll make a chat history patch :-) 16:25:25 <Brianetta> I'd say pick the one where the x is the same side as the other windows 16:26:04 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-143.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:05 <Darkvater> jez: I'll never commit the face customizer patch 16:26:43 <Darkvater> because I am principally against it and never ever will not even if someone pays me money... well we can discuss the amount of money 16:26:43 <glx> jez: Darkvater always refused faces customizers :) 16:27:13 <jez> i like good looking trannies 16:27:28 <Brianetta> I'd rather see a photo option 16:27:34 <jez> nah 16:27:37 <Brianetta> specify path to small png in openttd.cfg 16:27:41 <jez> that would totally look out of place 16:27:46 <Brianetta> and the content is transferred at game sync 16:27:50 <jez> the rest of gui blends in nicely 16:28:07 <Brianetta> jez: The option would be for a logo, not just a face 16:28:27 <jez> still wouldnt blend in nicely 16:28:56 <Brianetta> So? 16:29:03 <Brianetta> Who goes to look at the face? 16:29:15 <jez> when im looking at company info i tend to 16:29:15 <jez> :-) 16:29:22 <jez> just adds a bit of personality to the game 16:29:23 <Brianetta> I only open a competitor's company window for the train count and perhaps the buyout option 16:29:44 <Brianetta> If I could disable it and use a smaller window I would 16:29:51 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C1E2.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:57 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C1E2.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:27 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c16.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:31:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:32:44 <jez> Who would know about the sound driver interface in OpenTTD? 16:32:58 <jez> I want to know whether you can get the current volume level of MIDIs being played ingame 16:33:16 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 16:33:52 <jez> VARDEF HalMusicDriver *_music_driver; 16:34:00 <jez> that interface is what i'm assuming might do it 16:34:16 <Born_Acorn> Make the weird coloured thing work again! 16:34:35 <Born_Acorn> Since it's been broke for many a year. :( 16:35:09 <Bjarni> what broke? 16:36:05 <jez> oh, it used to work? 16:36:09 <jez> that's what i was thinking of fixing 16:36:24 <jez> the 'equaliser' or whatever you call it doesn't move with the music's amplitude 16:36:25 <jez> :-) 16:36:48 <jez> i have only seen it working in the original 16:36:53 *** Steve14 [~stephan@p54886D0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:40 <peter1138> presumably because the original plays the notes itself 16:37:54 <peter1138> maybe i should finish off the sdl_mixer driver 16:37:55 <jez> well if it used to work that would suggest it could work again 16:38:07 <peter1138> bit tricky when using an external player 16:38:37 <peter1138> i'm guessing it just counted the number of notes or volume playing or something, rather than an actual level... 16:38:37 <jez> yes but did it previously work? 16:38:44 <peter1138> not in ottd 16:38:48 <jez> thought not 16:38:54 <peter1138> not that i know of anyway 16:39:11 <jez> yeah there needs to be a _music_driver->GetAmplitude() function or similar 16:40:20 <peter1138> there needs to be a faster machine for me to compile with 16:40:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> what do you have ssh for? 16:41:40 <Bjarni> peter1138: we tried to use SDL_mixer on OSX to replace the crappy java midi player. It was fast enough, but it sounded like crap 16:41:58 <Bjarni> that's why it's using quicktime today 16:42:36 <jez> SDL_mixer was using Timidity? 16:42:56 <Bjarni> no 16:43:04 <Bjarni> timidity was never used on OSX 16:43:09 <jez> perhaps the jass jukebox could be extended to allow the playing of more MIDIs than 22 16:43:28 <jez> (actually technically it can hold 33 at the moment for some reason but only 22 are hardcoded in) 16:43:45 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:43:54 <jez> s/ss/zz/ 16:45:24 <jez> so what did OSX use? 16:46:12 <peter1138> Bjarni: it sounds fine for me with linux... 16:46:23 <peter1138> the only issue is the audio mixer needs rewriting 16:47:31 <jez> hmm 16:47:32 <jez> _dmusic_midi_driver 16:47:36 <jez> gets defined but not used 16:47:58 <peter1138> DirectMusic MIDI Driver 16:48:26 <peter1138> used by music/dmusic.cpp 16:48:50 <jez> extern "C" const HalMusicDriver _dmusic_midi_driver = ... 16:48:53 <jez> not really used 16:48:54 <jez> defined 16:49:20 <peter1138> ,...M("dmusic", "DirectMusic MIDI Driver", &_dmusic_midi_driver), 16:49:33 <peter1138> used in driver.c 16:49:34 <jez> oh i see, it holds function pointers 16:49:51 <peter1138> like a poor man's class 16:50:37 <jez> but then DMusicMidiStart doesnt get used 16:50:45 <peter1138> ... 16:51:06 <peter1138> it's the first entry in the list... 16:51:23 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3FFA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:52:00 <jez> yeah but what calls it? 16:52:43 <glx> LoadDriver() 16:52:56 <glx> err = dd->drv->start(NULL); 16:53:22 <jez> hmm i see 16:53:26 <jez> rather involved code 16:53:45 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:54:40 <Bjarni> <jez> so what did OSX use? <-- first nothing, then some really slow java app (worked fine, but was dead slow) and now quicktime 16:55:51 *** Rens2DoomBuilder is now known as Rens2Eat 16:57:22 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D0C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host155-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:00:51 <Wolf01> hi 17:07:15 <jez> hi 17:14:31 *** Trenskow [~outlet@80.251.195.2] has joined #openttd 17:19:08 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 17:19:08 <Wolf01> !logs 17:21:08 *** Trenskow [~outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit [Quit: http://iThought.dk/ ] 17:32:23 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c16.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:38:01 *** znikoz [z_-niko-_z@91.124.30.108] has joined #openttd 17:40:39 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 17:45:14 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r6823 /trunk/station_cmd.c: - Codechange: Ignore bit 0 of a NewStation custom tile callback result. This fixes cosmetic problems with some add on stations. 17:46:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:53:19 <guru3> http://electricpotential.net/temp/ne2ktribute.jpg <-- my tribute to ne2k network cards 17:54:10 <peter1138> lies 17:54:12 <peter1138> they're clones 17:57:48 <guru3> haha 17:57:49 <guru3> true 18:05:10 <|Jeroen|> mhzz i could do that with old 3com 3c509 cards 18:05:53 <guru3> getting 28 isa nics randomly today 18:06:02 <guru3> is a case of 'be careful what you wish for' 18:06:45 <Darkvater> the multi-colour-slider for the music never worked 18:06:51 <Darkvater> I checked it in TTD 18:07:31 <jez> it works in TTD 18:07:58 <Darkvater> didn't work for me 4 days ago when I checked 18:08:03 <Darkvater> TTD windows mind you 18:08:25 <jez> right, that'll be it 18:08:27 <jez> works in TTD dos 18:18:49 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2Doom 18:18:51 <Wolf01> if i want to place a new kind of object in the map, with a custom graphic (like newstations), which recall the purchase land behaviour... 18:18:51 <Wolf01> to be simple: is possible to change the graphic of the purchase land tool for individual/groups of tiles? 18:19:24 <Wolf01> (if don't require the new map array) 18:31:46 *** Hapo [pr@kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 18:31:55 <Hapo> btw, what is the state of newgrx at the moment? 18:32:02 <Hapo> I haven't been the situation for ages :) 18:39:54 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:51 <jez> cripes 18:40:57 <jez> www.radiotimes.com down again? 18:41:04 <jez> that site's admins are bloody incompetent 18:45:06 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:07 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 18:49:44 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:25 <MiHaMiX> hmm 19:01:06 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387C1E2.versanet.de] has left #openttd [Verlassend] 19:01:11 <MiHaMiX> everyone sleeping? :) 19:01:16 <lws1984> i'm awaaake 19:01:19 <Wolf01> yes 19:01:36 <MiHaMiX> lws1984: well, in case of I ask around :D otherwise you're sleeping :P 19:01:55 <Belugas> i'm working 19:02:27 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: what are you working on? :) 19:05:16 <Born_Acorn> newsounds for newstations for newhouses! 19:06:10 <MiHaMiX> Born_Acorn: sounds interesting! :) 19:06:17 <lws1984> :D 19:06:20 <MiHaMiX> Born_Acorn: sounds :D 19:06:30 <Born_Acorn> :p 19:06:56 <Belugas> integrating pccharge middleware and ingenico pinpad, on a thigh schedule 19:06:59 <Belugas> hell 19:07:02 <Belugas> nighmare 19:07:11 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: :-( 19:07:14 <Belugas> et tutti quanti 19:07:32 <Belugas> ho yeah... did a few lines of newhouses 19:07:42 <Belugas> during lunch break 19:07:43 <Born_Acorn> yay newhouses 19:08:21 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: and you skipped the lunch? ;-0 19:09:21 <Belugas> i was eating and newhousing at the same time 19:09:25 <Belugas> habit of mine... 19:12:59 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: bad habit, to be honest.. 19:15:26 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:41 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-142-85-200.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:20:11 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:20 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 19:22:32 *** DarkFenX [~Miranda@gprs-nat.spbmts.ru] has joined #openttd 19:23:44 <Belugas> MiHaMiX: maybe, but productive... Anyway, if i want to rest, i just have to go home 19:23:50 <Belugas> Maedhros :) hello 19:24:49 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: that's true.. but why do you tell this to me, who was the first one to show up in the workplace, and the last one to leave :-( 19:25:22 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: I had to support my colleagues who are at abroad and they required an urgent help 19:25:39 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: so I had no time at all to work on WT2 :( 19:26:12 <Belugas> i kow the pattern, believe me :) 19:26:56 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: but i'll leave an hour earlier on friday :) 19:27:10 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: so I'll leave at around 14:00 :) 19:28:03 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: at least.. I hope :D 19:28:04 <jez> quick straw poll 19:28:06 <Maedhros> hey Belugas :) 19:28:07 <jez> who has Flash 9 installed? 19:28:27 <jez> (and who doesn't?) 19:28:48 <MiHaMiX> another quick poll: who want jez still be here and asking stupid questions? :P 19:28:59 <Belugas> Maedhros, got a patch for you on tfc :) 19:29:32 <jez> MiHaMiX: :-( 19:29:34 <Belugas> MiHaMiX : i have around 20 hours of ovetime lately, every week or so 19:29:59 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: and do they pay that to you, or allows you to leave earlier? 19:30:02 <glx> Belugas: don't forget the nice week end you had ;) 19:30:18 <MiHaMiX> glx: what weekend? :D 19:30:37 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-147-54.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:12 <DarkFenX> Hi all, i have a small question... there's a lot of interesting for me patches in miniIN, and looks like they're quite for a long time there... when can we expect their appearance in svn trunk? 19:32:37 <MiHaMiX> DarkFenX: they're merged into trunk continuosly if they are stable enough 19:32:42 <DarkFenX> Or at least one of them... 19:32:55 <MiHaMiX> DarkFenX: which one? 19:33:40 <DarkFenX> First :) i think devs'll handle them in a bunch... 19:33:54 <DarkFenX> so after first in a short time 2nd, etc 19:34:02 <DarkFenX> I understand this - rich recommended a lot of them to be merged 19:34:20 <DarkFenX> I want physics patch (really good feature) 19:34:21 <Belugas> MiHaMiX : paid 19:34:31 <Belugas> glx : yeah was wondefull :( 19:34:42 <Belugas> bt indeed... what weekend ! 19:35:05 <MiHaMiX> Belugas: that's good, at least 19:44:06 <peter1138> damn it 19:44:18 <peter1138> burnt my mouth :( 19:44:39 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: wait a little more before start eating :D 19:45:02 <peter1138> yeah 19:45:08 <peter1138> well, too late now ;p 19:45:45 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: sorry... If you had told me earlier, I would tell you earlier, too :) 19:47:56 <jez> woo 19:48:03 <jez> i can see a girl from my kitchen and she isn't wearing a shirt 19:48:05 <jez> :-) 19:48:50 <DarkFenX> it'd be better if you could see it in your kitchen 19:49:24 <MiHaMiX> jez: E_WRONG_CHANNEL; _last_warning_before_bankick = 1; 19:50:00 <jez> oh come on 19:50:03 <jez> miserable bugger 19:50:12 <MiHaMiX> lol 19:50:14 <jez> Darkvater: agreed 19:50:18 <jez> erm 19:50:21 <jez> DarkFenX rather 19:50:34 <MiHaMiX> ./bk stop highlighting others... :P 19:50:42 <MiHaMiX> #./bk jez stop highlighting others... :P 19:51:13 *** mode/#openttd [+o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 19:51:22 <DarkFenX> Just one missclick :P 19:51:47 <MiHaMiX> DarkFenX: no, no click. and it was just a 2nd warning, becase I'm so nice :P 19:52:10 <MiHaMiX> DarkFenX: I'm using text-based irc client 19:52:27 <DarkFenX> I use it too 19:52:35 <DarkFenX> MIM 19:53:18 <MiHaMiX> Irssi v0.8.9 - http://irssi.org/help/ 19:53:45 <DarkFenX> Miranda IM - http://www,miranda-im.org 19:54:01 <MiHaMiX> hmm.. I should update my alias to say version... I'm actually using 0.8.10 :D 19:54:37 <DarkFenX> miranda does it automatically :P - but no so convenient for MUCs, i can agree with some ppl 19:55:01 <peter1138> http://www.penisland.net/ 19:55:16 <DarkFenX> another IRC client? ^^ 19:55:39 <jez> omg 19:55:42 <MiHaMiX> DarkFenX: MUC = ? Method of Undetermined Coefficients 19:55:43 <jez> and i get the warning 19:55:45 <jez> lol 19:55:52 <MiHaMiX> DarkFenX: or Mount Union College ? 19:55:55 <DarkFenX> MUC = multi-user chat 19:56:01 <Noldo> Mono blUe Control 19:56:01 <MiHaMiX> DarkFenX: or Message Understanding Conference 19:56:03 <MiHaMiX> ahh 19:56:34 <DarkFenX> general definition for all protocols, cuz in some protos it's not called "chat room" 19:56:37 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: lol, nice url :D 19:56:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-205-106.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:56:39 <jez> www.mofo.com 19:56:56 <MiHaMiX> peter1138: had some prejudice what will the page contain, but it was a total surprise :D 19:57:20 <DarkFenX> i had collection of that hyperlinks 19:57:26 <DarkFenX> including this one 19:57:40 <DarkFenX> it's one of the best :) 20:01:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 20:07:42 *** znikoz [z_-niko-_z@91.124.30.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:11 *** DarkFenX [~Miranda@gprs-nat.spbmts.ru] has quit [Quit: I'm the Great Cornoholio! I wish you all luck!] 20:17:06 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:37 *** Steve14 [~stephan@p54886D0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated !] 20:22:06 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:08 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 20:25:22 *** coronel [andreabl@login1.powertech.no] has joined #openttd 20:37:36 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, penisland is perhaps older than the internet itself 20:37:54 <peter1138> so am i! 20:38:24 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-106.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 20:38:32 <hylje> how can a domain name be older than the internets, and thus also domain system? 20:40:56 <DaleStan> hylje: I take it you've never heard of RFC1149? 20:42:13 <hylje> i suppose but my RFC memory is not brilliant 20:42:36 <DaleStan> "A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers" 20:43:01 <hylje> yes 20:43:13 <hylje> the latency is way too high :( 20:54:05 <jez> as are the carriers 20:54:29 <hylje> stoned pigeons 20:54:30 <hylje> yay 21:01:16 <Darkvater> !seen bjarni 21:01:16 <_42_> Darkvater, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x50a46c16.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen quitting #openttd 3 hours 28 minutes ago (18.10. 17:32) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 1 hour there. 21:01:19 <Darkvater> that faggot 21:01:43 <Darkvater> he replies on the forums yet is uncapable of answering a simple question 21:02:40 <Born_Acorn> :O 21:07:49 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6824 /trunk/ (main_gui.c network_data.h network_gui.c): 21:07:49 <CIA-1> -Feature: Change the functionality of the chat window. SHIFT+ENTER (SHIFT+T) 21:07:49 <CIA-1> sends a message to all players, CTRL+ENTER (CTRL+T) sends a message to all 21:07:49 <CIA-1> team mates and ENTER (T) sends a message to teammates if you have any, otherwise 21:07:49 <CIA-1> to all players. 21:07:50 <CIA-1> The chat-window now also shows what kind of message is being sent. Shortcut 21:07:52 <CIA-1> functionality has not been changed (ENTER sends message, ESC closes window) 21:08:47 <peter1138> hmm 21:09:13 <peter1138> dunno about that enter-does-different-things 21:09:24 <Darkvater> warcraft3 does the same 21:09:31 <Darkvater> it is the holy grail ^^ 21:09:32 <peter1138> quake doesn't ;p 21:09:56 <Darkvater> well, we can see how people react 21:10:11 <jez> Darkvater: what's the key to get players that want to play a proper game instead of a bunch of idiots? 21:10:19 <Darkvater> play offline 21:10:22 <jez> oh yeah, i think it's Ctrl-A-I 21:10:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> chances are, that 95% of all people never get to know any of the shortcuts... 21:10:40 <peter1138> password protected server with people you know :) 21:11:00 <Darkvater> Eddi|zuHause2: then it's about time the shortcuts are updated on the wiki 21:11:03 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:11:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> and you think that much more than 5% of the players actually read the wiki? 21:11:48 <Darkvater> that's their fault 21:12:39 <hylje> yess 21:12:43 <hylje> the wc3 chat layout 21:15:02 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:15:43 <hylje> fyi, i cant compile 21:15:55 <hylje> ill try a clean 21:19:07 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6825 /trunk/ (network_gui.c network_gui.h): -Codechange: Remove two globals from chat-window 21:20:09 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:20:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host155-233-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:20:48 <hylje> hmm 21:21:00 <hylje> how should i cleanly fetch everything from svn 21:21:02 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-218.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:21:10 <hylje> i dont like rm -rf 21:21:12 <Darkvater> svn revert -R . && make mrproper 21:21:41 <Darkvater> and then make 21:21:47 <hylje> i always forget some obscure patch there 21:24:01 <hylje> Darkvater: it doesnt seem to remember which was the last target? 21:24:28 <Darkvater> last what? 21:24:30 <hylje> or where is the preference located 21:24:32 <hylje> for chat 21:24:41 <hylje> i choose "send to team" in client list 21:25:07 <hylje> i think it should stay that way until i explicitly redefine it 21:25:07 <jez> hmm 21:25:25 <hylje> of course the kb shortcuts to all and team are there for exceptions 21:26:30 <hylje> and if you're tweaking it 21:26:46 <hylje> you could also add the team/all choice to the client list 21:27:04 <hylje> so it isnt under a player's context menu 21:30:35 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:30:55 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r6826 /branches/newhouses/ (4 files): [NewHouses] - Codechange: Replace the tile layout 'spritegroup' loader. This now supports multiple building sprites per tile and requires only one resolve() per tile draw. 21:34:03 <CIA-1> glx * r6827 /trunk/main_gui.c: -Fix r6824: removed warning 21:35:23 <Darkvater> glx: what kind of a stupid compiler do you have? 21:35:29 <glx> gcc 21:35:30 <hylje> gcc? 21:35:46 <glx> main_gui.c: In function `MainWindowWndProc': 21:35:46 <glx> main_gui.c:2331: warning: 'ci' might be used uninitialized in this function 21:35:48 <Darkvater> so why doesn't it warn for me? 21:36:13 <Darkvater> ugh, that's even the bad fix 21:36:55 <Darkvater> I'm not gonna flame you since it was my error, but don't blindly go fixing warnings 21:37:12 <Darkvater> glx: what gcc ar eyou using? 21:37:19 <Darkvater> tfarago@(none):~/openttd> gcc --version 21:37:20 <Darkvater> gcc (GCC) 4.1.0 (SUSE Linux) 21:37:22 <glx> oh yes ci->client_playas can fail 21:37:23 <Darkvater> no warnings with this one 21:37:43 <glx> gcc (GCC) 3.4.2 (mingw-special) 21:38:48 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r6828 /trunk/main_gui.c: -Fix: Properly fix r6842 21:38:59 <peter1138> fight! 21:39:14 <hylje> edit wars 21:39:18 <Darkvater> :) 21:39:31 <peter1138> look what we just did: http://fuzzle.org/o/newhouses5.png 21:39:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> *bing*bing* start of round two, now... 21:39:42 <peter1138> quick work with photoshop, that ;) 21:39:55 <hylje> :o 21:39:55 <Darkvater> damn 21:40:00 <Darkvater> it doesn't even look good 21:40:05 <peter1138> heh 21:40:08 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/newhouses4.png 21:40:09 <peter1138> that does 21:40:14 <Darkvater> the big pagoda is really missing some colour 21:40:26 <Darkvater> yeah :) 21:40:37 <Darkvater> now if you were to show me some of the alpine climate with newhouses ^_^ 21:40:43 <Darkvater> it turns me on...so sexuy 21:41:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> i really do not like the look of some of the new houses... 21:41:04 <hylje> AAA! 21:41:20 <Hapo> 00:41 ( Eddi|zuHause2) i really do not like the look of some of the new houses... 21:41:24 <Hapo> 00:41 ( hylje) AAA! 21:41:25 <Hapo> whoops 21:41:30 <Hapo> me and my mouse hand 21:41:34 <peter1138> i think 4 is probably the best looking 21:41:39 <peter1138> (nabs) 21:41:40 <Hapo> dragging text in yakuake causes it to be copypasted 21:41:55 <Darkvater> peter1138: is spriteid really uint16? 21:42:02 <Darkvater> or is that some special spriteid for newhouses? 21:42:02 <peter1138> no 21:42:27 <Darkvater> cause before the commit it was (byte feature, byte setid, byte type, uint32 spriteid, uint16 num_sprites) 21:42:40 <peter1138> oh 21:42:48 <peter1138> yeah 21:42:54 <Darkvater> http://svn.openttd.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/6826 21:42:58 <peter1138> it's not really a spriteid 21:43:19 <Darkvater> ok 21:43:28 <peter1138> it should be spritesetid 21:43:59 <peter1138> maybe i'll change it in trunk ;p 21:44:43 <peter1138> some of the newgrf spec can lead to confusing names going on 21:44:53 <peter1138> like they use cargoid for stuff totally unrelated to cargos 21:45:34 <Darkvater> he 21:47:03 <peter1138> we call it "groupid" 21:47:10 <peter1138> though it's not a group either 21:47:18 <Darkvater> hmm what should I call a struct that has left,right,width,height? 21:47:28 <Darkvater> eh I mean left,top,width,height 21:47:44 <peter1138> rect? 21:47:50 <peter1138> (again) 21:47:50 <Darkvater> we already have rect 21:47:55 <Darkvater> it's left,top,right,bottom 21:48:09 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:48:10 <peter1138> relativerect 21:48:17 <Darkvater> :) 21:48:28 <peter1138> oblong 21:49:52 <Darkvater> oblong eh 21:49:56 <Darkvater> donnu even what it means 21:50:17 <Darkvater> I'll just call it ViewportSign :P 21:50:20 <Darkvater> typedef struct { int32 left; int32 top; byte width_1, width_2; 21:50:21 <Darkvater> } ViewportSign; 21:50:33 <peter1138> width1 width2! 21:50:40 <peter1138> oblong is another name for rectangle 21:51:37 <Darkvater> sounds like a gay name ;0 21:53:03 <blathijs> Darkvater: what is it? 21:53:25 <blathijs> Darkvater: wasn't this SignStruct or something related? 21:53:44 <Darkvater> sorry? 21:54:06 <blathijs> The struct you propose sounds familiar. What are you doing? 21:54:38 <Darkvater> I'm having a go at the textmessagebox with the main goal of splitting a long line into two instead of just truncating 21:54:48 <Darkvater> but when I see 21:54:51 <Darkvater> static const int _textmessage_box_left = 10; // Pixels from left 21:54:51 <Darkvater> static const int _textmessage_box_y = 150; // Height of box 21:54:51 <Darkvater> static const int _textmessage_box_bottom = 30; // Pixels from bottom 21:54:52 <Darkvater> static const int _textmessage_box_max_width = 400; // Max width of box 21:55:00 <Darkvater> this just screams for a rect of some kind 21:55:25 <Brianetta> a window 21:55:29 <Brianetta> make a window window 21:55:34 <Brianetta> a chat window 21:55:37 <Brianetta> for chatting 21:55:46 <Brianetta> chatting in a window 21:56:04 <blathijs> Darkvater: Can't you just use rect for this? 21:56:05 <Darkvater> I'm just doing the output, perhaps a chat-history window later 21:56:22 <blathijs> I mean, you can easily translate this to a rect, can't you? 21:56:23 <Brianetta> at the moment, the chat vanishes, but is shown int he console 21:56:23 <Darkvater> blathijs: that would be misuse, rect has left,right,bottom,top. and right != width 21:56:32 <Brianetta> but you can't have the console open and chat easily 21:56:39 <Darkvater> yes, it's only syntax but still 21:56:43 <Brianetta> you have to say "stuff" 21:56:46 <Brianetta> and you can't say a " 21:56:52 <Brianetta> although you can chat it 21:57:20 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-162-106.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 21:57:23 <Brianetta> autopilot has to strip out " from IRC messages (: 21:57:35 <Brianetta> otherwise people can do injection attacks 21:57:38 <Darkvater> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ;p 21:57:54 <Brianetta> and mIRC colours 21:57:55 <Brianetta> damnit 21:58:01 <Brianetta> you know those are ASCII 3 21:58:03 <Brianetta> Ctrl-C 21:58:17 <Brianetta> so autopilot typed in Ctrl-C to the dedicated server 21:58:19 <Brianetta> and what happened? 21:58:27 <Darkvater> quit 21:58:30 <Brianetta> indeed 21:58:35 <Brianetta> mIRC colour codes. 21:58:37 <Brianetta> Lethal. 21:58:50 <Brianetta> Found that out the hard way 21:59:02 <Brianetta> some mIRC user who routinely made everything he said, red 21:59:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> just strip everything < 0x20 21:59:21 <Brianetta> I have a strip function 21:59:28 <Brianetta> it doesn't strip everything 21:59:34 <Brianetta> but some just vanish anyway 21:59:37 <Darkvater> blathijs: or you have a better idea? 21:59:47 <Brianetta> © 21:59:52 <Brianetta> that doesn't get shown in the game 22:00:11 <blathijs> Darkvater: No :-) 22:00:16 <Darkvater> hehe :) 22:01:26 <Darkvater> hmm 22:01:28 <Darkvater> Oblong it is 22:02:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> !calc 640*9/16 22:02:11 <_42_> Eddi|zuHause2: 360.0000000000; 22:02:46 *** Progman [~progman@p5091ED6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04:44 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-143.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:05:03 <lws1984> Sacro! 22:05:08 <jez> Sacre bleu 22:06:12 <Sacro> lws1984! 22:06:16 <Sacro> jez! 22:20:29 <Brianetta> sandbox server keeps quitting without explaining why 22:20:31 <Brianetta> no message 22:20:34 <Brianetta> no error 22:20:44 <Brianetta> not even in insane debugging output mode 22:21:13 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish] 22:23:07 <Darkvater> Brianetta: any particulars? 22:23:39 <Brianetta> It appears to be random. We're using a bunch of newgrfs, and I suspect that it might be that, but I have no real evidence. 22:23:51 <Brianetta> The clients are not quitting. 22:23:57 <Brianetta> The server is quitting. 22:24:12 <Brianetta> It isn't autopilot, because it behaves the same without it. 22:24:23 <Darkvater> ah well...come back if it also happens without grf cause then it might've been me 22:24:29 <Darkvater> depends of course what version you're using 22:24:42 <Brianetta> [23:24] <sandbox> Game version is r6823 22:24:55 <Brianetta> We updated to that from r6668 22:25:03 <Brianetta> but it hasn't improved. 22:25:52 <Brianetta> My personal suspiscion lies with alpinew.grf, but XeryusTC claims that it made no difference 22:26:04 <Brianetta> although I didn't see him test it, hence my suspiscion 22:26:12 <Brianetta> and bad spelling 22:26:47 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:26:50 <Sacro> hmm, dont think ive been on tt-forums for 3 days 22:27:45 <Brianetta> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/details.php?do=details&id=107 22:28:07 <Brianetta> Darkvater: In your opinion, is that grf compatible? It looks like an industries grf to me, amongst other changes 22:29:20 <Darkvater> hmm the apline climate did work in SP 22:29:37 <Darkvater> I don't hink it had any newindustry code in it 22:31:03 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-142-85-200.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:31:26 <Brianetta> well, I might be pointing the blame at the wrong thing then 22:31:37 <Brianetta> It's not desyncs anyway 22:31:42 <Brianetta> it's a total exit 22:32:52 <Sacro> thats not good 22:34:25 <Brianetta> I wouldn't mind if it assert()ed or spat its dummy ouy 22:34:34 <Brianetta> but it just quits silently 22:34:41 <Darkvater> any bt? 22:34:41 <Brianetta> and apparently randomly 22:34:49 <Brianetta> bt being? 22:34:54 <Darkvater> backtrace 22:35:00 <Brianetta> no output 22:35:00 <Darkvater> stacktrace 22:35:07 <Darkvater> (if you run it from gdb) 22:35:10 <Brianetta> I don't know how to use debuggers 22:35:29 <Darkvater> just do 'gdb ./openttd' 22:35:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-205-106.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:38 <Darkvater> then inside its console 'run -D' 22:35:41 <Brianetta> Have to lose the autopilot to do that 22:35:44 <Darkvater> and now wait :) 22:36:00 <Brianetta> Annoyingly, this is a game in progress )-: 22:37:02 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-205-106.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 22:37:44 <Darkvater> well if it dies anyways ;p 22:38:22 <Brianetta> I'll have to talk tot he others 22:38:31 <Brianetta> not having an auto-pause etc 22:38:34 <Brianetta> or game logging 22:39:14 <Darkvater> but perhaps not such a hurry cause I'm going to bed anyways 22:39:24 <Darkvater> best to try without any newgrf first to be sure though 22:39:25 * Brianetta nods 22:39:28 <Brianetta> <-- auch 22:43:58 <peter1138> ottd has autopause built in now 22:45:04 <Brianetta> sandbox style? 22:45:13 <peter1138> define 'sandbox style' 22:45:25 <Brianetta> pause when there's less than two people 22:45:27 <peter1138> oh 22:45:28 <peter1138> yes 22:45:38 <peter1138> min_players setting 22:45:47 <Brianetta> min_players 22:45:48 <peter1138> (and, shock, it's not in the patches section) 22:45:50 <Brianetta> cool 22:45:58 <Brianetta> I'm going to have to alter autopilot 22:46:09 <Brianetta> it calls that pause_level (and it's one less) 22:46:46 <Brianetta> actually, I could just leave it 22:46:57 <Brianetta> the autopilot one can be disabled with pause_level <0 22:47:12 <Brianetta> which would let openttd handle it if it's a late enough release 22:47:44 <Brianetta> I notice that openttd now reade net_frame_freq from the config 22:52:51 <Brianetta> I'm going to have to document that pause thing more completely 22:55:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 22:55:35 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:42 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:03:45 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 23:05:20 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 23:07:09 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC52A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:45 <jez> god 23:12:03 <jez> i actually feel sorry for those bastards who present those overnight quiz call shows 23:12:11 <Sacro> heh, they are cool 23:13:15 <jez> cool? 23:13:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> on DSF they now have some young girl doing that barely dressed... 23:14:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> (DSF being Deutsches SportFernsehen) 23:16:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i just hate those call in shows... nothing else... 23:17:03 <jez> ugh 23:17:11 <jez> we're in the shitty uk so we dont get that much of that stuff 23:17:12 <jez> :-\ 23:17:26 <jez> World's Most Amazing Videos 2 23:17:27 <jez> heh 23:18:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, we have those shows on at least 3 channels simultaneously during the night 23:18:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> and one channel dedicated to that all day long... 23:23:09 <jez> oh we do too but they're pay channels 23:23:13 <jez> not exactly generally available 23:24:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> what? they make you pay for just watching that stuff? 23:25:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> at least in germany, most programs are free... 23:25:34 <jez> well I don't pay 23:25:59 <jez> this is so damn violent this program 23:27:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> (i was talking about the call in stuff) 23:29:18 <jez> oh 23:29:27 <jez> yeah we have a lot of those 23:29:31 <jez> bloody awful 23:29:42 <jez> i thought you were talking about soft porn, lol 23:30:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> nobody talked about soft porn... 23:30:13 <jez> sigh 23:30:19 <jez> i feel sorry for the woman presenting this 23:30:22 <jez> it's funny 23:30:38 <jez> i'll tune in about 2 hours after i watched it last and they're still on the same damn puzzle 23:30:54 <jez> they're obviously tiring 23:30:56 <jez> lol 23:31:10 <jez> i mean they have to say something for 2 hours 23:33:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> i really do not care anymore... 23:33:43 <jez> god 23:33:51 <jez> this redhead irish woman would be so much happier in my bed 23:33:58 <jez> she doesn't know... 23:34:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, in your dreams... 23:35:25 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-143.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:43 <jez> well obviously 23:36:50 <jez> but no in reality she really WOULD be happier 23:36:58 <jez> she's not happy presenting that crappy quiz show :-) 23:37:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> how do you know? she could have a talking-fetish or something :p 23:48:13 <jez> yeah heh 23:48:18 <jez> some clueless woman just talked up 23:48:26 <jez> had the TV up in the background with about a 5 second lag 23:48:38 <jez> and she spent literally a minute saying 'im quite sacred' and 'i dont know;' 23:48:39 <jez> LOL 23:53:53 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:54:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i am far beyond mocking about those shows... 23:55:40 <jez> hmm 23:55:54 <jez> now does drinking alcohol actually increase or decrease your water level? 23:56:04 <jez> i know it takes some out but if there's ice in it you might actually gain a bit of water? 23:56:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't think so... 23:58:46 <jez> ughh 23:58:54 <jez> some guy smashed on a snowmobile jump 23:58:56 <jez> smashed his jaw 23:58:59 <jez> lost 17 teeth 23:59:11 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:21 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo