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00:09:42 <KUDr> [00:13:07] <Darkvater> yapf/yapf_rail.o:yapf_rail.cpp:(.text$ << what is it? How to repro it? 00:16:19 <glx> KUDr: it's on the compile farm for win32 00:16:41 <glx> http://nightly.openttd.org/devs/logs/win32.nightly.compile.log 00:17:49 <KUDr> glx: thanks 00:18:10 <KUDr> i wonder why i can't see it on gcc/linux or msvc/win 00:18:36 <glx> I don't have this problem with mingw on windows 00:18:56 <glx> and Rubidium's cross-compiler works fine too 00:19:51 <KUDr> and wtf is "dso_handle"? 00:21:03 <Born_Acorn> D-I-S-C-O, I wanna be, a disco man. 00:21:07 <Born_Acorn> oh, dso. 00:23:13 <KUDr> hmm: "After constructing a global (or local static) object, 00:23:13 <KUDr> that will require destruction on exit, 00:23:13 <KUDr> a termination function is <i>registered</i> as follows: 00:23:13 <KUDr> <center><code> 00:23:27 <KUDr> ! extern "C" int __cxa_atexit ( void (*f)(void *), void *p, void *d ); 00:23:36 <KUDr> </code></center> 00:23:50 <KUDr> This registration, e.g. <code>__cxa_atexit(f,p,d)</code>, 00:23:51 <KUDr> is intended to cause the call <code>f(p)</code> when DSO <code>d</code> is unloaded, 00:23:51 <KUDr> before all such termination calls registered before this one. 00:23:51 <KUDr> It returns zero if registration is successful, nonzero on failure. 00:23:53 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:23:59 <KUDr> nice 00:25:32 <KUDr> so cache improvement (r7210) is not compatible with gcc compiler version used by farm 00:25:40 <KUDr> !openttd commit 7210 00:25:43 <_42_> Commit by KUDr :: r7210 /trunk/yapf/ (4 files) (2006-11-18 19:20:47 UTC) 00:25:45 <_42_> -CodeChange: [YAPF] the global cache object is now not destroyed/recreated whenever the cache is invalidated. It now supports Flush() method that is used instead. It should also fix mem-leak warning produced by valgrind (Tron) 00:26:52 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:26:55 <KUDr> glx: so the win32 build failed? 00:27:01 <glx> yes 00:27:13 <glx> and morphos but for other reasons :) 00:27:31 <tormentum> morning all 00:27:41 *** tormentum is now known as torm 00:28:18 <KUDr> gm 00:28:23 <KUDr> :) 00:28:49 <torm> overslept 00:28:51 <torm> but thats okay 00:28:56 <torm> finished all my exams yesterday 00:29:05 <KUDr> glx: what do you think? Should i revert r7210? 00:29:36 <glx> TL will try to update all tools in compile farm before :) 00:29:39 <torm> ahh, u having trouble building too? 00:30:00 <KUDr> torm: here it works 00:30:04 <KUDr> farm failed 00:30:17 <torm> ahh k 00:30:21 <KUDr> terrible messages from yapf 00:30:29 <torm> yeah, thats what i've got 00:30:37 <torm> i'm gonna book out another copy from svn and try that 00:30:42 <KUDr> what gcc version? 00:30:42 *** YogSothoth_ [~john@lns-bzn-23-82-248-83-25.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30:49 <KUDr> it must be gcc bug 00:30:53 <torm> i've been fucking around with the code a bit, so i may have screwed stuff up :) 00:31:09 <torm> gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5) 00:31:26 <KUDr> torm: you can locally revert revision 7210 from me 00:31:32 <KUDr> and it should work 00:31:38 <KUDr> can you try it please? 00:33:30 <torm> never "reverted" before... how do i go about doing that? 00:33:34 <torm> svn revert 7210? 00:34:03 <KUDr> i dunno (i do it by mouse clicks) 00:34:07 <KUDr> try it 00:34:14 <KUDr> and you will see 00:34:21 <torm> lol 00:34:42 <KUDr> or merge -r7210:7209 00:35:52 <glx> svn merge svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk -c -7210 00:36:00 <torm> cheers glx 00:36:24 <KUDr> hmm 00:37:09 <torm> nope, thats not it... i've used the command before... just cant remember it... 00:37:13 <torm> let me google it :) 00:37:15 <glx> or svn merge svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk -r7210:7209 :) 00:37:31 <KUDr> it sounds better 00:38:38 <glx> -c (--change) has been added in svn 1.4.0 00:39:21 <KUDr> and "-" in -7210 means undo? 00:39:26 <glx> -cN == -rN-1:N 00:39:38 <glx> -c-N == -rN:N-1 00:39:40 <KUDr> its wrong order 00:39:48 <KUDr> aha 00:39:53 <KUDr> then ok 00:40:52 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 00:40:52 <torm> !logs 00:41:18 <KUDr> torm: still nothing? 00:42:16 <torm> i checked out another fresh copy, and that compiled no problem 00:42:26 <torm> must have been my screwings with tha code 00:42:26 <KUDr> hmmm 00:42:39 <KUDr> and the same on farm? 00:42:54 <KUDr> did you visit TL's site tonight? 00:43:22 <KUDr> must be something else 00:43:29 <KUDr> on 2 places at one time 00:45:37 <Naksu> is it me or are you having numerous technical problems lately? 00:46:11 <KUDr> Naksu: what kind? 00:46:22 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:48:10 <Naksu> software-kind 00:48:26 <Naksu> altho i suppose that's usual for a software project 00:49:08 <KUDr> can't be more specific? 00:49:18 <KUDr> is it ottd related? 00:49:28 <KUDr> is it compile problem? 00:49:36 <KUDr> or runtime crash? 00:49:41 <Naksu> err 00:50:01 <Naksu> i'm not testing anything, just commenting on all the things talked about in here 00:50:10 <KUDr> aha 00:50:24 <KUDr> <Naksu> is it me or .... 00:50:35 <KUDr> sounds to me that you have a problem too 00:50:46 <KUDr> ok 00:50:55 <Naksu> yes 00:50:56 <KUDr> its too late for me 00:50:56 <Naksu> that could be it :) 00:50:56 <KUDr> gn all 00:51:02 <glx> nigh kdr 00:51:19 <glx> KUDr even :) 00:51:26 <KUDr> :) gn 01:04:39 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:06:11 <BFM> LOL, my boss knocked his fizzy drink over, so he shoved the bottle in it's mouth in an effort to stop it going everywhere, and it started chocking on it! 01:07:06 <Naksu> it? 01:08:30 <tormentum> lol yeah... it? 01:08:39 <tormentum> everything is compiling nicely now... 01:08:46 <tormentum> my svn repo must have been fuxored 01:17:42 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-150-9.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:18:09 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18:28 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 01:25:08 *** Netsplit osmosis.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: Triffid_Hunter 01:26:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-141-225-143.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:39:01 *** Netsplit over, joins: Triffid_Hunter 01:41:14 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 01:42:57 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [] 01:44:23 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:50:40 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-245-53.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17:29 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:17:40 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 02:18:27 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:23:36 <tormentum> any c++ gurus in? 02:23:45 <tormentum> what would "error: expected unqualified-id before '^' token" being thrown by the compiler mean? 02:23:57 <tormentum> i for the life of me can't find ANY syntax errors 02:24:25 <glx> what is the line causing the error ? 02:24:40 <tormentum> getting it repeatedly... i'll pastebin it... 02:24:44 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:32 <tormentum> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Sx2igl54.html 02:26:12 <tormentum> 3-4.cpp:11: error: expected unqualified-id before '^' token 02:26:12 <tormentum> 3-4.cpp: In function 'int main()': 02:26:12 <tormentum> 3-4.cpp:24: error: expected primary-expression before '^' token 02:26:12 <tormentum> 3-4.cpp:24: error: invalid operands of types 'bool' and '<unresolved overloaded function type>' to binary 'operator<<' 02:26:12 <tormentum> 3-4.cpp: At global scope: 02:26:14 <tormentum> 3-4.cpp:29: error: expected unqualified-id before '^' token 02:27:39 <tormentum> i may be missing something obvious, but i'm quite new to c++ 02:28:29 <glx> I think I know :) 02:28:44 <glx> file created on windows but compiled on unix 02:29:18 <tormentum> i thought u might say that, but no, i'm a sole linux user 02:29:22 <tormentum> was created in VIM 02:29:33 <tormentum> i might try typing it out again tho... see if that solves the prob 02:31:31 <glx> ok dunno why but xor is converted to ^ 02:31:38 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76DE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:31:46 <glx> I renamed xor and it compiles 02:32:27 <tormentum> okay, i'll try that then 02:32:42 <glx> and it works :) 02:34:59 <glx> tormentum: check http://cs.smu.ca/~porter/csc/ref/cpp_keywords.html (xor is a reserved keyword) 02:35:09 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:35:22 <tormentum> ahh k 02:35:32 <tormentum> strange that my text book should use it as a function name then 02:38:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B82.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:39:20 <tormentum> thanks glx :) 02:39:42 <glx> np, I learn a new thing :) 02:39:53 <glx> *learned :) 02:40:12 <glx> hmm my english is baaaad 02:40:40 <tormentum> not so much... where are you from? 02:40:49 <glx> france 02:41:21 <tormentum> ah k 02:41:27 <glx> oh I though learned was wrong but it seems it's ok 02:41:54 <tormentum> depends on which context you use it in... 02:42:12 <tormentum> "I leaned a new thing too" would be more correct 02:42:33 <The6thCommandment> hi all 02:42:58 <The6thCommandment> has anyone had experience compiling openttd with visual studio express 2005? 02:43:37 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 02:43:37 <tormentum> !logs 02:46:56 <The6thCommandment> thanks i think i can get the hang of this ... log browser thing - ill take a look 02:48:46 <glx> The6thCommandment: did you check http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Microsoft_Visual_C_Express ? 02:49:14 <The6thCommandment> yeah 02:49:26 <The6thCommandment> i have followed it to what i think is the letter 02:50:16 <glx> ok and you have a problem compiling ottdres.rc I bet 02:50:19 <The6thCommandment> if i enable CLR (common language runtime support) i get "cl : Command line error D8045 : cannot compile C file '.\video\win32_v.c' with the /clr option" when compiling 02:50:56 <The6thCommandment> if i disable clr i get ".\smallmap_gui.c(3) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'stdafx.h': No such file or directory" on just about every file there is 02:51:47 <glx> stdafx.h is in openttd source 02:52:35 <The6thCommandment> thats funny, let me check that it got pulled down 02:53:16 <Zevensoft> nope 02:53:31 <The6thCommandment> he 02:53:39 <The6thCommandment> its in the .7 files 02:53:44 <The6thCommandment> but not the .8 source 02:54:05 <Zevensoft> in that guide on the wiki it tells you to get the stdafx.h file from elsewhere 02:54:33 <glx> Zevensoft: no afxres.h :) 02:54:45 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:54:52 <Zevensoft> ah 02:55:01 <Zevensoft> hrm 02:55:07 <Zevensoft> well I compile with vs2005 no worries 02:55:18 <Zevensoft> the express version no less 02:55:25 <The6thCommandment> hmm 02:55:36 <Zevensoft> (the one thats free, but legal) 02:55:46 <The6thCommandment> just let me tinker a bit now that i found that our - yeah i use express as well 02:55:57 <glx> same here it works for me (but I copied afxres.h from MFC includes) 02:56:25 <Zevensoft> shouldnt need to copy that file, just setting up includes ought to be enough 02:56:28 <Zevensoft> hrm 02:56:40 <Zevensoft> I'll see where my proj gets it from 02:57:35 <glx> I followed the wiki and as the afxres.h linked in it didn't work I used a workaround 02:57:57 <Zevensoft> worked for me :S 02:58:15 <The6thCommandment> mabey this pull down didnt get all the files, i seem to have openttd.h plus a whole heap of other .h files missing :( 03:00:02 <Zevensoft> stdafx.h should be part of the trunk 03:00:09 <Zevensoft> I'd do a re-checkout 03:01:11 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:07:36 <The6thCommandment> yeah im thinking the same 03:21:48 <The6thCommandment> i just pulled down 7219 and it seems to be compiling fine - so far 03:22:49 <The6thCommandment> and yes, now you are right, now i " have a problem compiling ottdres.rc I bet" 03:25:02 <Zevensoft> heh 03:25:29 <Zevensoft> cant remember how I fixed that one 03:30:15 <The6thCommandment> i wonder if glx can remember? 03:30:30 <The6thCommandment> .\ottdres.rc(57) : error RC2104 : undefined keyword or key name: IDC_STATIC 03:36:09 <glx> The6thCommandment: I just copied afxres.h from platformSDK\include\MFC to MSVS8\VC\include 03:37:26 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2FB96.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:30 <glx> anyway I'm going to sleep 03:41:31 <glx> bye 03:41:50 <The6thCommandment> thanks, cya 03:41:59 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:45:28 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2FD8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:46:50 *** robobed is now known as roboboy 03:47:10 <The6thCommandment> cool thats all that it was, all is well just so everyone knows :) 03:47:18 <The6thCommandment> cya guys, thanks for all the help 03:47:34 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby] 04:35:31 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:05:36 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-236-161-153.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #openttd 05:16:59 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 05:24:07 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:43:44 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-60-228-44-63.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]] 06:02:44 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm208.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:02:50 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm208.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 06:16:41 *** BFM [~BurningFe@CPE-60-227-109-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:22:13 *** lws1984 is now known as lws|Away 06:31:02 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 06:36:57 <BFM> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/rabbits/osaka/rabbitsozai/baby/netherland/nyunyu03.jpg 06:37:27 <tormentum> huh? 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07:54:38 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:05:36 <peter1138> depends what the error is 08:13:39 <The6thCommandment> well it only happens when i try release build 08:14:23 <The6thCommandment> Linking... 08:14:23 <The6thCommandment> airport.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _free 08:14:23 <The6thCommandment> libpng.lib(pngmem.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _free 08:14:23 <The6thCommandment> libpng.lib(zutil.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _free 08:14:23 <The6thCommandment> airport.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _malloc 08:14:24 <The6thCommandment> libpng.lib(pngmem.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _malloc 08:14:24 <The6thCommandment> libpng.lib(zutil.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _malloc 08:14:24 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14:35 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:14:49 <The6thCommandment> sry, didnt mean to dump the clipboard 08:14:59 <The6thCommandment> but thats it alright 08:15:15 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:21:41 <Nigel> The6thCommandment, this on Windows? 08:21:54 <The6thCommandment> yes, on visual studio express 2005 08:22:03 <The6thCommandment> debug builds and runs fine 08:22:10 <The6thCommandment> i just wanted to create a release 08:22:22 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:22:42 <Nigel> hmmm, in that case, just changing debug to release should work, unless when you setup for PSDK/DirectX paths you entered it in the wrong place 08:23:45 <The6thCommandment> can you modify debug and release differently? 08:24:07 <The6thCommandment> the DX SDK include and library paths? 08:26:04 <The6thCommandment> unfortunatly i havnt much experience with changing project settings etc and 2005 is a very unfamiliar interface to VC6 08:33:10 <The6thCommandment> i notice under Build, Configuration Manager: If i select Release the projects langs, strgen stay on Debug while openttd changes to Release 08:33:36 <The6thCommandment> but i cannot select a Release configuration for those 2 projects, just doesnt appear 08:36:29 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: /quit] 08:37:53 <CIA-1> truelight * r7224 /compile_farm/controller/rules: -Fix: it is without-fontconfig, not without-config, broke MacIntel nightly 08:45:14 <The6thCommandment> i can only see r7219 by "Darkvater" 08:45:43 <peter1138> compile_farm is not trunk 08:45:44 <peter1138> heh 08:46:21 <The6thCommandment> oh 08:46:34 <The6thCommandment> sorry, im pretty noob 08:46:54 <The6thCommandment> are you saying that link has a version that will work? 08:48:29 <peter1138> hmm? 08:50:25 <The6thCommandment> i just have a release build link issue, were you talking to me originally? 08:51:27 <peter1138> i don't know what would cause that 08:51:54 <The6thCommandment> me either, i havnt had a link problem on only one build before 09:00:29 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 09:09:27 *** BFM [~BurningFe@CPE-60-227-109-191.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:29 *** BFM [~BurningFe@60.227.109.191] has joined #openttd 09:11:29 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 09:22:50 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-225-56.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 09:31:09 <Darkvater> The6thCommandment: what is your runtime library on release mode? Or you used openttd_vs80.sln? 09:31:26 <Darkvater> KUDr: don't revert 7120, it's not your fault 09:31:43 <Darkvater> morning @all :) 09:36:55 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-44-22.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:46:18 <peter1138> ... 09:46:43 <peter1138> 7120? 09:47:39 <peter1138> oh, 7210 09:49:50 <The6thCommandment> i used the soloution openttd_vs80.sln provided 09:55:37 <Darkvater> that's strange cause it works perfectly for me 09:55:46 <Darkvater> are you using the files from useful.zip latest? 09:56:32 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-109-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:56:47 <The6thCommandment> hmmm ill have a look 10:00:49 <The6thCommandment> yes, i just overwrote the files that were in G:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\include and G:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\lib and they were same dates/sizes 10:01:29 <The6thCommandment> i dont know how to check my runtime library etc, its a really alien GUI compared to VC6 10:02:11 <The6thCommandment> for my executable/include/lib paths, does it have to be in some priority? 10:02:20 <Darkvater> project>openttd properties>configuration properties>C/C++>code generation 10:03:04 <The6thCommandment> multithreaded 10:03:28 <The6thCommandment> slash MT 10:03:45 * Darkvater tries for himself again 10:05:54 <The6thCommandment> i have also tried removing the april DX SDK dir and using the provided 8.1 sdks from the wiki http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Microsoft_Visual_C_Express 10:05:57 <The6thCommandment> same thing 10:06:26 <The6thCommandment> i have a feeling some library config is screwy, i just dont know how to find out 10:07:19 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-137-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:49 <Darkvater> easiest is to remove WITH_DIRECTMUSIC from the preprocessor list, then you don't need any DX 10:08:36 <Nigel> hmmm 10:08:46 <Darkvater> brb 10:08:50 <The6thCommandment> np 10:10:31 <The6thCommandment> WIN32_ENABLE_DIRECTMUSIC_SUPPORT ? 10:15:04 <Nigel> i'm getting the same problem 10:15:12 <Nigel> i'm sure it's not a problem with DIRECTMUSIC 10:18:27 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@firewall1.driftbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:06 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:37 <The6thCommandment> i added preprocessor WITH_DIRECTMUSIC and it did the same thing 10:19:44 <The6thCommandment> just to see 10:20:12 <The6thCommandment> thank god its happening to someone else, i thought i just really nubed it up bad 10:20:20 <The6thCommandment> i didn't think i was THAT bad 10:20:56 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:22:44 <The6thCommandment> let me know if i can provide any details at all 10:24:22 <peter1138> does it work pre-7210? heh 10:24:37 <peter1138> oh, that's a different issue 10:24:42 <peter1138> i think 10:26:45 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@firewall1.driftbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:26:56 <The6thCommandment> thats ok, its no problem to do a pull down and try hey 10:27:05 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:27:08 <The6thCommandment> ill just do it in a diff directory 10:27:58 <The6thCommandment> ok, just pulling down 7200 10:28:30 <peter1138> Darkvater: i've been wondering how to display "the error" 10:29:04 <peter1138> the "oi, you need x, y and z newgrfs to play this" 10:33:42 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 10:34:49 <Darkvater> hmm it seems to happen to me as well.... 10:34:53 * Darkvater will check this out 10:34:58 <Darkvater> peter1138: will get back to you as well 10:35:03 <Darkvater> in about an hour? 1.5 hours? 10:35:06 * The6thCommandment is very gracious 10:35:22 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-137-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:35:42 <peter1138> Darkvater: why are you asking? ;) 10:35:53 <Darkvater> peter1138: eh? 10:35:59 <Darkvater> you're asking how to display the error 10:36:04 <Darkvater> that ^ 10:36:06 <Darkvater> bbs 10:36:10 <peter1138> "in about an hour? 1.5 hours?" 10:36:18 <peter1138> unless that's the answer ;p 10:45:51 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498CEF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:52 <KUDr_wrk> [10:33:46] <Darkvater> KUDr: don't revert 7120, it's not your fault << i know, but if there is bug in gcc libraries for win32, then it could help temporarily 10:47:47 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:48:01 *** robobot [~supybot@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:48:18 <robobot> robobot has joined on Quakenet 10:48:19 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498E10D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:48:38 <robobot> roboboy has joined on Quakenet 10:48:40 <robobot> roboboy has quit Quakenet (Registered) 10:48:43 <robobot> roboboy has joined on Quakenet 10:49:20 *** robobot [~supybot@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 10:49:21 <Naksu> what's the point of this bot, besides the spam? 10:49:39 <roboboy> it accidently joint 10:49:43 <Naksu> again? 10:49:51 <peter1138> KUDr_wrk: we want proper fixes, not temporary fixes :) 10:50:03 <Naksu> how many times will it join by accident? 10:50:22 <peter1138> none if it gets banned 10:50:53 <KUDr_wrk> peter1138: ok 10:52:52 <The6thCommandment> just an update on my situation - i get the same thing on r7200, can build and run debug fine, get "airport.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _free" etc... link errors on Release 10:54:25 <KUDr_wrk> The6thCommandment: there is some "Ignore specific library" in the linker settings, try to remove LIBC.lib from there 10:55:36 <KUDr_wrk> openttd/properties/linker/input/ignore specific library 10:57:37 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-225-56.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:59:12 <The6thCommandment> yeah, already is set to ignore 10:59:32 <The6thCommandment> thanks heaps though for the thoughts guys, i really appreciate the effort 11:00:02 <KUDr_wrk> remove it from the list 11:00:11 <KUDr_wrk> and keep the setting empty 11:00:14 <The6thCommandment> oh, my mistake 11:00:22 <KUDr_wrk> at least to try what it will do 11:01:10 <The6thCommandment> ok, now is: LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'LIBC.lib' 11:01:12 <KUDr_wrk> it should not fix all errors, but i would like to understand what is wrong 11:01:18 <KUDr_wrk> aha 11:01:34 <KUDr_wrk> something else that i expected 11:01:46 <KUDr_wrk> do you have VNC server installed? 11:01:54 <The6thCommandment> i can get it for you 11:02:28 <KUDr_wrk> then i can connect to you and look there whats going on 11:02:53 <The6thCommandment> yeah, understood 11:05:58 *** BFM [~BurningFe@60.227.109.191] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]] 11:08:15 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC50E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:48 *** NewGuy [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:11:37 <roboboy> gnight 11:11:43 *** roboboy is now known as robobed 11:11:45 * robobed folds out the bed and locks it into position. 11:14:01 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:14:01 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14:19 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:18:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:18:37 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7225 /branches/makefile_rewrite/projects/ (4 files): 11:18:37 <CIA-1> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix (6091): strgen did not compile for MSVC 2005 due to 'configuration' mismatch between openttd_vs80.sln and strgen_vs80.vcproj (Debug|Win32 vs Release|Win32) 11:18:37 <CIA-1> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix (7222): remove the YAPF unittest from the projects 11:19:26 <Brianetta> Not long till 0.5? 11:22:45 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@firewall1.driftbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26:08 <peter1138> still needs the newgrf setting stuff 11:26:19 <peter1138> which i have been working on, heh 11:32:56 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:32:56 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41:08 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm gone, bye bye :)] 11:41:09 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:50:18 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:54:37 *** NewGuy [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 11:55:43 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:17:25 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:19:57 <Darkvater> peter1138: I have an idea 12:20:31 <Darkvater> peter1138: you do not want to show an error msg imho with just the first or last bad newgrf file 12:20:42 <Darkvater> the guy fixes that, tries to load again, and gets the next error 12:20:46 <Darkvater> and so forth, and so forth 12:21:01 <Darkvater> what about remembering the list of bad newgrf's and showing that in the newgrf-gui window? 12:28:52 <peter1138> the list is remembered, yes 12:29:02 <Darkvater> The6thCommandment: found the solution for your problem 12:29:08 <peter1138> the newgrf window shows the current config though 12:29:15 <Darkvater> The6thCommandment: stdafx.h:109, comment that line 12:29:22 <Darkvater> The6thCommandment: # pragma comment(linker, "/NODEFAULTLIB:LIBCMT.LIB") // allow linking to non-recompiled libs 12:29:24 <peter1138> which, at the menu, will be the newgame config 12:29:25 <The6thCommandment> thanks heaps guys 12:29:28 <peter1138> unless... hmm 12:29:30 <Darkvater> now I gotta find out why it got added there... 12:29:53 <peter1138> shall i order a pizza for lunch? 12:30:00 <Darkvater> peter1138: well, if loading returns an error you show the list of the loaded game 12:30:21 <Darkvater> which is why you need to remember it seperately otherwise it is overwritten by the loading of opntitle.dat 12:30:21 <peter1138> if it errors then the game is no longer loaded :) 12:30:25 <peter1138> but yeah 12:30:42 <peter1138> ok 12:30:50 <peter1138> i need to save strings 12:31:01 <peter1138> "grfid 0x12345678" isn't that useful 12:31:08 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-115-74.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:31:32 <Darkvater> hmm, yes 12:31:39 <Darkvater> or just forward people to grfcrawler ;) 12:31:40 <peter1138> alas, the saveload code can't save strings 12:31:50 <Darkvater> yes it can, I added support for it 12:31:51 <peter1138> well 12:32:00 <peter1138> not pointers 12:32:07 <Darkvater> but donnu if the name is of that much help..you can rename the files any way you want 12:32:07 <peter1138> char foo[x] is fine 12:32:10 <peter1138> but not char *foo 12:32:19 <peter1138> you can rename, but it gives a hint 12:32:33 <Darkvater> yeah... I started adding support for it some time ago but stopped it 12:32:35 <Darkvater> donnu why 12:32:40 <peter1138> or we implement a webbrowser and load the grfcrawler page :) 12:32:55 <Darkvater> my god cygwin is so fking slow 12:33:07 <Darkvater> already going on a minute mark here and it's still doing DEP 12:33:15 <peter1138> heh 12:33:15 <peter1138> yes 12:33:30 <peter1138> almost as slow as this test payment platform i have here 12:33:47 <Darkvater> you know what? 12:33:51 * Darkvater deletes cygwin 12:33:53 <Darkvater> fuck that 12:33:59 <peter1138> (it's cheap, so instead of running on several servers, it's all on one) 12:34:05 <peter1138> ((and it's a p2 something)) 12:34:41 <peter1138> 128MB ram... oh dear 12:34:52 <peter1138> that's running IIS, .NET2, SQL Server... 12:35:10 <Darkvater> that's horrid 12:36:37 <Darkvater> well, well well 12:36:42 <Darkvater> !openttd commit 3551 12:36:44 <_42_> Commit by peter1138 :: r3551 /trunk/stdafx.h (2006-02-05 09:28:06 UTC) 12:36:46 <_42_> Add directives to allow Visual Studio 2005 compilation. 12:36:50 <Darkvater> I think we have found the culprit 12:37:30 <Darkvater> hmm waiiit 12:37:48 <Darkvater> OMG 12:37:50 <Darkvater> it was me :O 12:37:53 <Darkvater> o_O 12:37:59 <Zevensoft> err 12:38:19 <Zevensoft> vs2005 compilation worked before though 12:38:34 <Darkvater> not after 7200 12:38:38 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:49 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:41:52 *** NewGuy [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:42:14 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:44:09 <Zevensoft> ah 12:44:19 <Zevensoft> only happened on release, thats probably why I never saw it 12:46:16 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:47:42 <Zevensoft> hrm does ottd compile on fedora 5? 12:47:45 *** NewGuy [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:52:31 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:59:15 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:01:54 <The6thCommandment> thanks guys, that definatly fixed it for me 13:02:32 <Darkvater> The6thCommandment: ok, now revert that change and up to latest revision :) 13:02:40 <The6thCommandment> thanks guys, that fix in stdafx.h (109) made it work - KUDOS 13:03:00 <The6thCommandment> ahh, there is my text <blush> 13:03:14 <The6thCommandment> oh ok, thanks again 13:03:16 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7226 /trunk/ (openttd.vcproj openttd_vs80.vcproj stdafx.h): 13:03:16 <CIA-1> -Fix (r7200): [win32] Don't ask my why but I told the linker to ignore the multithreaded 13:03:16 <CIA-1> library in for VS2005, resulting in unlinkable code for Release builds. 13:04:57 <Darkvater> peter1138: shall I enable libfreetype per default for windows builds? 13:05:22 <Zevensoft> ah 13:12:25 <Rubidium> Darkvater: in MakefileRewrite you changed the 'RuntimeLibrary' for strgen_vs80.vcproj to 4 (r6091), whereas it is 0 in trunk. Especially because I had linking problems when trying to compile strgen of MakefileRewrite at the university and those problems were gone when I changed it back to 0. 13:13:15 <peter1138> hmm 13:13:20 <Darkvater> what is 4? 13:13:34 <Darkvater> !openttd commit 6091 13:13:35 <Rubidium> 'RuntimeLibrary' in strgen_vs80.vcproj 13:13:37 <_42_> Commit by truelight :: r6091 /branches/makefile_rewrite/projects/ (10 files) (2006-08-24 12:44:55 UTC) 13:13:39 <_42_> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: adjusted MSVC 2003 and MSVC 2005 project files to work with this branch (Darkvater) 13:13:42 <peter1138> hmm 13:13:44 * peter1138 has a plan 13:13:47 <Darkvater> Rubidium: yes but what is 4? 13:13:51 <peter1138> get the basic newgrf saveload stuff in 13:13:56 <peter1138> then fiddle about with guis later 13:14:02 <Rubidium> I don't know, got no idea 13:14:04 <peter1138> including show what grfs are needed 13:14:05 <Darkvater> multithreaded/singlethreaded/multithreaded-debug/single-debug? 13:14:09 <peter1138> i still need string saving though 13:14:35 <Darkvater> OMG NOOOOO 13:14:42 <peter1138> hmm? 13:14:47 <Darkvater> with_zlib fails on cygwin and now it does a full recompile 13:14:50 <Darkvater> bejezus 13:15:00 <Darkvater> peter1138: want me to have a look at string-saving? 13:15:05 <peter1138> ok 13:15:09 <peter1138> yes 13:15:25 <Darkvater> in the meantime... another question 13:15:27 <peter1138> if it's too much trouble i can use fixed arrays 13:15:31 <Darkvater> once I get the screenshot up and running 13:15:40 <peter1138> hmm, actually that might be better anyway 13:16:18 <Darkvater> well make up your mind :) 13:16:23 <Rubidium> and I got no time to get back to those computers today :( 13:16:45 <peter1138> ok, if i use fixed arrays, the whole thing will take up a bit more memory 13:16:55 <KUDr_wrk> Darkvater: "LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'LIBC.lib'" when building debug 13:17:03 * peter1138 checks 13:17:04 <The6thCommandment> i can help 13:17:09 <KUDr_wrk> LIBC.lib should stay disabled always 13:17:13 <The6thCommandment> hehe 13:17:16 <The6thCommandment> beat me 13:17:18 <KUDr_wrk> heh 13:17:26 <peter1138> just use gcc 13:17:34 <peter1138> let's drop windows support 13:17:46 <KUDr_wrk> good idea :) 13:17:48 <The6thCommandment> i dont wanna shuffle over to my FC6 box 13:17:56 <The6thCommandment> which is a good idea in itself anyhow 13:18:52 <Darkvater> hm 0 = multithreaded 13:19:08 <Darkvater> there is no 4 13:19:35 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: ? we aren't even using libc.lib 13:19:46 <KUDr_wrk> i know 13:19:53 <KUDr_wrk> but it is used by some lib 13:20:04 <KUDr_wrk> so it should stay suppressed 13:20:14 <KUDr_wrk> by the "ignore" rule 13:20:22 <Darkvater> but what lib? 13:20:31 <KUDr_wrk> dunno 13:20:44 <KUDr_wrk> zlib, png, any 13:20:47 <Darkvater> none of the libs (zlib/png/freetype) uses that 13:21:00 <Darkvater> they're all built MT 13:21:07 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 13:21:10 <KUDr_wrk> aha, then i have probably older versions 13:21:30 <Darkvater> yes, you should get the latest useful.zip 13:21:35 <KUDr_wrk> ok 13:21:41 <Darkvater> better to get error then silently ignore and have problems later 13:22:07 <KUDr_wrk> Darkvater: ignore default lib can't produce errors :) 13:22:24 <Darkvater> yes it can :) 13:22:29 <KUDr_wrk> no 13:22:31 <Darkvater> cause now we found out you're using old libraries 13:22:40 <KUDr_wrk> it doesn't use it at all 13:22:47 <KUDr_wrk> hehe 13:28:51 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: cygwin compiles HEAD perfectly, so TL's crosscompiler is "bad" 13:29:29 <KUDr_wrk> this is bug in some version of compiler provided libraries 13:29:43 <KUDr_wrk> it is not TL's mistake 13:31:03 <Darkvater> I'm not saying 13:31:39 <Darkvater> hmm 12 minutes to delete cygwin... 13:31:48 <KUDr_wrk> hehe 13:35:57 <The6thCommandment> thanks again guys, this just keeps getting better ... 13:38:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> where can i get a 3rd hand? 13:39:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> i need 2 for typing and 1 for moving the mouse... 13:42:39 *** Tron_ [901JEhNE@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 13:44:08 <Darkvater> what would we say to increasing the height of the editbox by 2 pixels? 13:44:17 <Darkvater> Uppercase Hungarian vowels don't fit :( 13:44:22 <Darkvater> U" or O" 13:44:33 <Zevensoft> hehe 13:46:36 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [] 13:47:35 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:48:34 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:50:05 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 13:50:27 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-188.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 13:51:44 *** Danny [~Danny.Ale@CPE-124-178-95-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:52:55 <Danny> Howdy people 13:54:02 <Darkvater> I swear to you of the last 60 minutes I've been sitting in front of my laptop at least 20 has been waiting for the goddammn windows to stop swapping and allowing me to do something 13:54:29 <Rubidium> ah, the marvels of Windows 13:54:59 <Darkvater> so; shall I increase editobx height? 13:55:23 <Darkvater> the only 'weird' thing about it is that it's now sticking out 1 pixel top/bottom with the buttons 13:56:30 <Danny> Can you guys tell me, do you normally need to forward ports on a router to use irc? 13:56:36 <Darkvater> no 13:57:06 <Danny> Must have been something else that fixed it then,.. 13:59:48 <peter1138> these days some networks are fuckwits with identd checks 14:01:07 <Danny> A lot of the clients didn't have oftc in the list either - or I couldn't find it anyway. 14:01:37 <Danny> Oh well got it in the end. :) 14:05:34 <Zevensoft> I just click the link on the webpage :) 14:08:38 <Danny> Yeah, didn't seem to work in firefox. 14:09:10 <Danny> Looked like it half loaded and stopped. 14:09:18 <Zevensoft> worked fine for me with firefox 14:09:31 <Zevensoft> I meant the irc:// link though 14:09:40 <Zevensoft> I use mirc 14:10:06 <Danny> Ah, thought you meant the web irc thing on the opencoop site. Tried that earlier 14:10:11 <Zevensoft> oh 14:11:21 <Danny> I like this xchat one. nice and simple. 14:15:19 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:16:19 <Danny> Well, I'm gunna get goiing, catch ya later 14:16:36 *** Danny [~Danny.Ale@CPE-124-178-95-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:21:36 <Darkvater> peter1138: so want me to have a look at string-saving/ 14:21:49 <peter1138> yes please 14:21:57 <Darkvater> yes polly 14:22:10 <peter1138> alright 14:22:13 <peter1138> yes, ya git 14:22:23 <Darkvater> :O 14:22:45 <peter1138> :o 14:27:25 <Rexxie> how come theres no nightly windows builds of OTTD lately? 14:27:36 <Zevensoft> lol 14:28:27 <peter1138> we dropped windows support 14:28:52 <peter1138> well 14:28:56 <peter1138> someone broke it anyway :) 14:28:59 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 14:29:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 14:29:27 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 14:29:50 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:41 <Rexxie> ouch 14:32:25 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 14:32:35 <peter1138> you can compile it yourself 14:34:35 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has joined #openttd 14:34:39 <Gorre> morning. 14:35:20 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AADD48.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:00 <Darkvater> hi 14:48:57 <KUDr_wrk> Darkvater: current libpng: -defaultlib:uuid.lib -defaultlib:uuid.lib -defaultlib:LIBC -defaultlib:OLDNAMES 14:49:09 <KUDr_wrk> so there is LIBC reference 14:52:39 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: hmm, they why doesn't it fail for me? 14:52:49 <Darkvater> I don't have a LIBC.lib file either and openttd compiles just fine 14:52:53 <Belugas> hello guys 14:52:57 <KUDr_wrk> because you have LIBC 14:53:03 <Darkvater> I do NOT 14:53:03 <KUDr_wrk> i don't have it 14:53:09 <KUDr_wrk> to be sure i never use it 14:53:17 <KUDr_wrk> dunno 14:53:22 <Darkvater> I really don't have it 14:53:26 <KUDr_wrk> i have head from trunk 14:53:28 <KUDr_wrk> no mods 14:53:33 <KUDr_wrk> and can't compile 14:53:34 <Darkvater> only for MSVC2003 but I renamed it just to be sure 14:53:39 <KUDr_wrk> and now i found why 14:54:14 <KUDr_wrk> i can't tell you why it works for you but now i know why it doesn't for me 14:54:36 <Darkvater> did you try a fll rebuild with the new useful.zip? 14:54:43 <Darkvater> 15:48 < KUDr_wrk> Darkvater: current libpng: -defaultlib: << how did you get this? 14:54:43 <KUDr_wrk> of course 14:55:02 <KUDr_wrk> look inside :) 14:55:18 <Darkvater> he 14:55:32 <KUDr_wrk> offset 0000d3cE 14:56:26 <KUDr_wrk> do you have it there too? 14:56:39 <KUDr_wrk> or you just have newer version? 14:56:46 <Darkvater> I have 14:57:07 <KUDr_wrk> then you should download latest useful.zip :) 14:57:12 <Darkvater> B/DEFAULTLIB:"uuid.lib" /DEFAULTLIB:"uuid.lib" /DEFAULTLIB:"LIBCMT" /DEFAULTLIB:"OLDNAMES 14:57:46 <KUDr_wrk> i have it from wiki 14:57:52 <Darkvater> what wiki? wiki is bad 14:57:58 <KUDr_wrk> aha 14:57:59 <Darkvater> http://sf.net/projects/openttd 14:58:05 <Darkvater> download > useful.zip 14:58:08 <KUDr_wrk> shit 14:58:12 <Darkvater> please paste link from wiki 14:58:16 * Darkvater is going to edit 14:58:26 <KUDr_wrk> i'll find it 14:58:46 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-75-120.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 14:59:00 <Darkvater> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=114307&release_id=439007 15:00:04 <KUDr_wrk> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=114307&release_id=228633 15:00:11 <KUDr_wrk> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/MicrosoftVisualCExpress 15:00:37 *** lolman [~d445e7e2@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 15:00:57 <Darkvater> idiots 15:01:31 <Darkvater> wtf's up with this damn wiki? 15:01:45 <KUDr_wrk> i dunno 15:01:48 <glx> wiki is wrong about afxres.h too 15:01:51 <Darkvater> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Microsoft_Visual_C_Express#Step_1:_Ingredients << refresh 15:02:07 <Darkvater> see better, donnu who linked to a particular release but you have to link to the GROUP 15:04:28 <peter1138> o_O 15:04:39 <lolman> Afternoon :) 15:04:47 <Darkvater> ? 15:04:47 *** lolman [~d445e7e2@mail.thegrebs.com] has quit [] 15:04:53 <Darkvater> sorry for the confusion KUDr_wrk :) 15:05:16 <KUDr_wrk> ok, now i know :) 15:05:22 <Born_Acorn> Someone in the know should make a UTF-8 compiley doodad for the Wiki 15:05:30 <Born_Acorn> So I can do it, noob style. 15:06:00 <Darkvater> what do you want to do? 15:06:01 <Darkvater> oh 15:06:07 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-245-53.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:06:07 <Darkvater> peter1138: make freetype mandatory? 15:07:00 * Born_Acorn installed Freetype for windows, but is now lost in an endless field of not-knowingness 15:07:31 <Darkvater> can you compile? 15:07:38 <KUDr_wrk> why are there freetype.dsp and .dsw in that zip? 15:07:53 <Darkvater> for a very good reason 15:07:57 <Darkvater> ... which I forgot 15:08:04 <KUDr_wrk> yes works now thanks! 15:08:33 <Born_Acorn> I can, yes, via the power of cygwin! 15:08:52 <Darkvater> ah cygwin..I give up 15:09:46 <Born_Acorn> aww 15:09:55 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:51 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:45 <izhirahider> What do you guys think of Railroad Tycoon being released as free? (according to http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/44740) 15:13:45 <peter1138> it sucks though 15:13:54 <Born_Acorn> It wasn't very fun 15:14:12 <Born_Acorn> It was from a time when only smart accountants and rich businessmen had computers! 15:14:17 <Born_Acorn> (and their sons) 15:16:05 <Darkvater> pff, no source? 15:16:07 <Darkvater> useless ;p 15:16:22 <peter1138> ugly 15:17:51 <Born_Acorn> It's good that Sid Meier has control over the RRT franchise again though 15:17:57 <Born_Acorn> Since it was his game. 15:17:59 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:21 <peter1138> did he lose it? 15:20:25 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 15:21:54 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:32 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:00 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:32 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:29:12 <Darkvater> bah, my soundcard refuses to work anymore 15:31:16 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:42 *** Osai_ [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:34:37 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@p57A0E9A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:34:45 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, yeah, that "PopTop" got the rights 15:34:50 <Born_Acorn> andmade RRT2 and 3 15:35:11 <Born_Acorn> then they got owned, and were folded into Sid Meier's Firaxis Games 15:35:24 <Born_Acorn> so he reclaimed the rights, and then made "Railroads!" 15:37:08 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0E9A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:34 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:19 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:20 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:48:42 <Darkvater> HA it works 15:48:54 <Darkvater> *magic* shuffling around with PCI slots for various cards 15:48:57 <Darkvater> gaay 15:52:05 <peter1138> oh, i see 15:53:12 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 15:54:41 *** Osai_ [~Osai@p57AADD5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:08 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-130-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:22 <Darkvater> omg 16:02:26 <Darkvater> now my network card doesn't work 16:02:27 <Darkvater> lol 16:05:13 <peter1138> hehe 16:05:21 <peter1138> what is it 16:05:24 <peter1138> emulating isa? 16:05:47 <Darkvater> donnuj 16:05:55 <Darkvater> lspci or whatever reports it present 16:06:01 <Darkvater> the thing just doesn't do anything 16:06:20 <Darkvater> and not showing jup in /sbin/ifconfig for example 16:06:32 <Darkvater> ok, eth works now..let's see sound ;p 16:07:01 <Darkvater> yaay no sound :s 16:07:22 <izhirahider> If they released Railroad Tycoon for free, that would be something 16:07:38 <izhirahider> Railroad Tycoon there are better free alternatives in the market 16:08:22 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:08:50 <Darkvater> I wonder how this can be sorted out 16:08:56 * Darkvater is running out of PCI combinations 16:11:59 *** Tron_ [901JEhNE@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:12:20 <Darkvater> any linux guru? :) 16:13:52 <Naksu> Darkvater: i believe you need the kernel module for the appropriate device to make it show outside lspci 16:14:12 <Naksu> but then again i probably know less about linux things than you :) 16:14:16 <Darkvater> let me state that everything worked fine for the last year, year and a half. 16:14:23 <Darkvater> then I put in a new vga card and bamm 16:15:29 <Naksu> can you paste the lspci output somewhere 16:15:58 <Darkvater> verbose or non-verbose? 16:16:30 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/lspci_output 16:16:56 *** jnmbk [~jnmbk@88.240.18.137] has joined #openttd 16:19:02 <Naksu> you could try modprobing all the associated modules 16:19:19 <Naksu> like snd-card-emu10k1 16:19:19 *** mikk36 [~mikk35@pc89.host3.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:26 <Naksu> tbh i've no idea :) 16:19:51 <Darkvater> and which modules belong to it? 16:19:59 *** mikk36 [~mikk35@pc121.host3.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:20:11 <Naksu> snd-card-emu10k1 and the usual alsa ones i would think 16:20:22 <Darkvater> snd-car... doesn't exist 16:20:45 <Darkvater> hmm snd-emu10k1 does 16:20:54 <Darkvater> I get no output, how do I know it worked? 16:21:03 <glx> lsmod 16:21:35 <glx> IIRC 16:21:40 <Naksu> technically, you know it worked when it doesnt whine 16:21:52 <Darkvater> ok thre's about 10 of 'em there now 16:21:54 <Darkvater> now what? :) 16:22:41 <Naksu> O_O 16:23:02 <Darkvater> ohoh 16:23:04 <Darkvater> it workz0rz 16:23:23 <Darkvater> hmm alhouthg 16:23:27 <Darkvater> it's SPDIF only :( 16:23:56 <Naksu> think you have some weird setting then 16:24:06 <glx> check the mixer (mute by default) 16:24:17 <Darkvater> it WORKED, all I did was switch a vga card 16:24:18 <CIA-1> KUDr * r7227 /trunk/yapf/yapf_costbase.hpp: -Fix: [YAPF] Bridge YAPF Penalty Incorrect. The penalty for upward slope was incorrectly applied on bridge exit. (Danny) 16:24:28 <Darkvater> mixer says no 'mixer channel not found' 16:24:53 <Darkvater> wtfh 16:27:23 <Naksu> meh 16:27:33 <Darkvater> he 16:27:49 <Darkvater> after I run alsaconf, which says no cards found, soundcar isn't working agin 16:27:50 <Naksu> try modprobe <whatever the name of the alsa mixer is, assuming you have that) 16:28:55 <Darkvater> this is bizarre..and not right 16:28:56 <Darkvater> dammit 16:30:02 *** jnmbk [~jnmbk@88.240.18.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:29 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD7E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:38:52 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 16:44:57 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:45:10 <Darkvater> hmm 16:45:15 <Darkvater> peter1138: got it working 16:45:52 <peter1138> xool 16:46:11 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/save_strings.diff 16:46:30 <Darkvater> tell me if you see uglyness 16:47:33 <Darkvater> I did it so that at the moment the malloced string will get the size of the string inside the savegame, not the size it was saved with 16:47:53 <Darkvater> eg if you allocated 50 bytes for saving, but only used 2 then on load you only have 2 to play with 16:47:56 <Prof_Frink> Darkvater: I see uglyness... coming from localhost 16:49:19 <peter1138> Darkvater: that's desired, i think 16:49:30 <peter1138> if i expected 50 bytes, i'd use a fixed buffer in the first place :) 16:49:43 <Darkvater> :) 16:50:21 * Darkvater gets back to his soundcard 16:50:49 <tormentum> huzzuh! 16:53:53 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 16:54:16 <peter1138> fucking board 16:54:21 <peter1138> has 3 memory slots 16:54:21 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7228 /trunk/ (saveload.c saveload.h): 16:54:21 <CIA-1> -Codechange: [internal] Add the possibility to save/load string-pointers which do not 16:54:21 <CIA-1> have a pre-allocated buffer. 16:54:27 <peter1138> 2 of which only accept 128 MB 16:54:36 <peter1138> the first accepts 256 MB 16:54:36 <Darkvater> hey, I'm the one that's bitching at his PC! 16:54:42 <peter1138> 3 * 256 MB -> 512MB 16:55:35 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 16:55:48 <Darkvater> peter1138: now nothing stands in your way of doing newsave :) 16:57:55 <blathijs> newsave? 16:58:36 <blathijs> peter1138: perhaps you have a one-sided and two two-sided memory modules? 16:58:43 <blathijs> (or vv, never remember how that works) 16:59:09 <peter1138> Darkvater: apart from being at work 16:59:13 <peter1138> blathijs: the ram is all identical 16:59:25 <peter1138> the board, otoh, is ancient 16:59:26 <Rubidium> blathijs: it's called RAID5 ;) 16:59:43 <peter1138> from when 64MB ram was considered a lot 17:00:58 <blathijs> Rubidium: RAID? Huh? 17:01:04 <blathijs> peter1138: heh 17:01:30 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:51 <peter1138> so today i upgraded it from 266 Mhz P2 w/ 128MB to 500 MHz P3 w/ 500 512MB 17:01:56 <peter1138> 500 512? 17:01:58 <peter1138> -500 ;p 17:02:26 <peter1138> this thing runs iis, sql server, etc... heh 17:02:45 <Rubidium> blathijs: maybe we should call RAIM as it isn't about disks but memory modules 17:06:23 <Darkvater> whohoooooooo 17:06:27 <Darkvater> everything workS@! 17:06:31 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7229 /branches/makefile_rewrite/projects/ (strgen.vcproj strgen_vs80.vcproj): [MakefileRewrite] -Fix (6091): fix linking issues of strgen. 17:07:37 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7230 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (6 files in 3 dirs): [MakefileRewrite] -Sync: with trunk r7219:7228. 17:08:51 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:09:43 <blathijs> Darkvater: _everything_ ? 17:09:56 <Darkvater> soundcard+ethernet+video :) 17:18:59 *** ufoun [~ty@b07-305a.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 17:19:01 * ufoun is away: Jsem pryc 17:19:17 *** ufoun [~ty@b07-305a.kn.vutbr.cz] has left #openttd [] 17:21:38 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0E9A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:23:53 <valhallasw> makefile_rewrite? :o 17:25:04 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0E9A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:34 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2Eat 17:29:14 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:34:33 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm gone, bye bye :)] 17:37:58 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:49:53 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:19 *** STE1N [~laszlo@ip51cd701f.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:05:32 <STE1N> are there any devs here? 18:05:37 <Sacro> yep 18:05:41 <STE1N> I just want to say THANK YOU 18:05:48 <Sacro> hehe 18:05:55 <STE1N> I just installed OpenTTD and it brought a smile to my face 18:06:01 <STE1N> the music, the graphics 18:06:09 <STE1N> it's all so cheesy yet so great 18:06:18 <Sacro> :o cheesy 18:06:18 <STE1N> thank you thank you thank you 18:06:22 <STE1N> keep it up 18:06:26 <STE1N> cheesy in a 1995 way 18:06:35 <STE1N> in a gameplay way it is tremendous 18:06:36 * Sacro is not a trunk dev, but has a patch in MiniIN 18:06:55 <STE1N> yea, I noticed that term in the server list 18:06:58 <STE1N> what is MiniIN? 18:07:28 <Gorre> \/1ru5 18:07:30 <Sacro> its OpenTTD with a load of unofficial user-made patches 18:17:16 *** Bear [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:27 *** Bear [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 18:18:21 <|Jeroen|> its nice 18:21:52 <peter1138> !openttd commit 18:21:54 <_42_> Commit by rubidium :: r7230 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (6 files in 3 dirs) (2006-11-21 17:07:33 UTC) 18:21:56 <_42_> [MakefileRewrite] -Sync: with trunk r7219:7228. 18:21:59 <peter1138> hmm 18:22:51 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2Sea 18:28:02 <peter1138> Darkvater: how do i use it? 18:33:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:35:40 <Wolf01> hi 18:37:37 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176117112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:40:47 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 18:41:50 *** wvx [~hgh@c-212-031-167-016.cust.thalamus.net] has joined #openttd 18:41:52 <Darkvater> peter1138: just use the proper saveload.h version, I thinkyou'd want SLE_STR 18:42:17 <peter1138> SLE_STRING? 18:42:20 <peter1138> SLE_STRINGQUOTE? 18:42:28 <peter1138> SLE_STR 18:42:29 <peter1138> hmm 18:42:43 <Darkvater> well SLE_STR is a shortcut :) 18:43:09 <peter1138> wait a moment 18:43:13 <peter1138> #define SLE_STR(base, variable, type, length) SLE_CONDSTR(base, variable, type, length, 0, SL_MAX_VERSION) 18:43:50 <peter1138> hmm 18:44:03 <Darkvater> ah that could conflict... 18:44:08 <peter1138> it doesn't appear to 18:44:08 <Darkvater> I used SLE_CONDSTR to test 18:44:10 <peter1138> hmm 18:44:23 <Darkvater> look in saveload.h: 132-137 18:44:35 <Darkvater> I think you want SLE_STR (SLE_STRING) 18:44:43 <Darkvater> if you don't want pre-allocated buffer 18:44:47 *** Bear [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:48 <Darkvater> if you do, then SLE_STRB 18:49:22 <peter1138> 0x080ea893 in SlCalcStringLen (ptr=0x0, length=64, conv=192) at saveload.c:510 18:49:29 <peter1138> ptr == 0 ... 18:49:50 *** pxl [PigCell@dslb-088-072-180-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:50:53 <peter1138> 0 being the offset into the struct 18:50:58 <peter1138> not the position of the string 18:53:38 <peter1138> perhaps if 'object' was passed in it would be able to determine it... 18:56:37 *** PigCell [PigCell@dslb-088-073-249-149.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:37 *** pxl is now known as PigCell 19:05:36 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05:56 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:06:04 <lolman> Oh noes... 19:06:40 <Darkvater> peter1138: are you testing it as part of a struct, not a global var? 19:06:52 <peter1138> yes 19:07:01 <Darkvater> hmm didn't test that... 19:07:39 <Darkvater> let's see 19:07:55 <Darkvater> it should work automagically 19:08:20 <peter1138> not if sld->address is 0 :) 19:09:15 <Darkvater> no but that should retrieve the address of the variable whose struct it is and add offset 19:15:07 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:15:23 <Darkvater> ugh... 'tis tricky ;( 19:15:49 <peter1138> heh 19:15:55 <Darkvater> void *ptr = ini_get_variable(&i->save, object); 19:16:02 <Darkvater> we need this for calculating length 19:16:11 <Darkvater> where object is _patches for example 19:16:14 <Sacro> lolman: oh noes 19:17:40 <Darkvater> peter1138: how are you doing saving of newgrf? 19:17:42 <Darkvater> have a diff? 19:18:08 <Rubidium> Darkvater: saveload.c:522: warning: 'len' might be used uninitialized in this function <- you should return after the NOT_REACHED() of line 535 19:18:14 <lolman> Sacro: ello :) 19:18:54 * lolman wonders whether to reboot into Linux and download OTTD SVN 19:19:24 <Darkvater> Rubidium: better move default: to top :) 19:19:34 <peter1138> static const SaveLoad _grfconfig_desc[] = { SLE_STR(GRFConfig, filename, SLE_STR, 0x40), 19:19:38 <peter1138> etc etc 19:19:51 <peter1138> then just a SetArrayIndex and an SlObject 19:20:45 <Darkvater> gotya 19:20:45 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:33 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:24:05 <Sacro> lolman: wb 19:24:15 <lolman> ty :) 19:24:46 <lolman> What's the command to checkout SVN again? lol 19:25:13 <lolman> Aha 19:25:15 <lolman> Got it :P 19:26:06 <Sacro> svn :p 19:26:11 <lolman> lol 19:26:31 <lolman> I was on about the bit after that 19:26:55 <Sacro> co 19:27:01 <lolman> I know that now lol 19:27:14 <Sacro> heh 19:28:17 <lolman> MiniIN developed much? 19:28:31 <Sacro> yeah, a good bit 19:28:41 <lolman> Smashing :-D 19:29:41 <lolman> Oooh 19:29:44 <Sacro> CGI:IRC is blocked at college :( 19:29:45 <lolman> Updates available 19:29:49 <lolman> Sacro, damn :( 19:30:09 <Sacro> yep 19:30:21 <lolman> Doesn't work on the copy of IE on most of my school's boxes 19:30:47 <lolman> And I've lost my USB stick too 19:31:24 <Sacro> aww 19:31:40 <Sacro> suppose i could download portable firefox, but i dont wanna get thrown out 19:31:44 <lolman> lol 19:32:01 <lolman> I have it on my USB stick lol 19:38:26 *** joeeCZ [user@186-user17.scnet.cz] has joined #openttd 19:39:10 <lolman> Gawd Beryl run's bloody fast... 19:39:17 <Sacro> does it? 19:39:23 <lolman> On this box yeah 19:40:01 <Sacro> i should get my new box tommorow 19:40:05 <Sacro> go pwn some n00bs 19:40:11 <lolman> Hehe 19:40:13 <lolman> Specs? 19:40:24 <Sacro> AMD X2 4600+ 19:40:44 <Sacro> 2x 1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR6400C4 19:40:53 <lolman> Not bad at all :P 19:40:55 <Sacro> BFG 7950GT OC 19:41:00 <lolman> Nice 19:41:03 <Sacro> Audigy 4 19:41:07 * lolman has a Sempron :S 19:41:19 <lolman> Clocked of course lol 19:41:28 <peter1138> Athlon :D 19:41:38 <peter1138> socket a :o 19:41:45 <lolman> As is my graphics card...that's crap too...7600 GS :-\ 19:41:55 *** joeeCZ [user@186-user17.scnet.cz] has left #openttd [] 19:41:57 <peter1138> gf2mx :D 19:42:24 <lolman> peter1138, that's like my dad's box :P 19:42:55 * Sacro has AM2 :p 19:43:08 <lolman> 754 :-\ 19:43:31 <lolman> Looking for a job, to go Core 2 19:43:43 <lolman> (Probably Quad by the time I've saved) 19:45:24 <peter1138> actually i had an upgrade 19:45:30 <peter1138> to a gf4 ti4200 19:45:37 <peter1138> which is a bit better 19:45:43 <lolman> I have a Ti4600 lying around here 19:45:46 <Sacro> i just gave away my Ti4400 19:45:49 <peter1138> :/ 19:46:52 <lolman> peter1138, if you have a spare HSF and can get to the Leeds area you can have this Ti4600 19:47:01 <lolman> :P 19:47:13 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-2681.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Guest52835))] 19:49:05 *** Guest52835 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:49:42 *** Guest52835 is now known as Wolf01 19:49:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:55 <lolman> Ello Wolf01 :) 19:50:03 <Wolf01> ello lolman 19:51:57 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-2681.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:54:04 <Darkvater> peter1138: almost :) 20:01:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:04 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 20:02:13 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:07:40 <Darkvater> the question is now... what shall I rename ini_get_variable to? 20:07:58 <peter1138> ini_donate_to_darkvater 20:08:08 <Darkvater> I had SlGetVariableAddress 20:08:19 <Darkvater> something better would be needed though 20:08:23 <Darkvater> peter1138: hehe 20:08:43 <Darkvater> cause it's not Sl only, but also ini 20:11:20 <Brianetta> autopilot has get_setting 20:13:01 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3CE84.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:15:34 <Gorre> crap, I cant find Alltaken's trees on my hdd anymore :/ 20:17:16 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F42F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:57 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC50E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:46 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 20:20:54 *** Coutal [~Coutal@85.64.228.215.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:59 <Coutal> maybe one day it will work 20:21:35 <Coutal> !players 20:22:55 <hylje> wrong chan :p 20:23:00 <Coutal> oops 20:23:15 <Coutal> right :) 20:24:03 <Darkvater> peter1138: svn up, it should work 20:25:12 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7231 /trunk/ (saveload.c saveload.h settings.c settings.h settings_gui.c): 20:25:12 <CIA-1> -Codechange: rename ini_get_variable to GetVariableAddress for use both in settings.c 20:25:12 <CIA-1> and saveload.c 20:26:08 <peter1138> ok 20:27:19 <peter1138> Couldn't find NewGRF 44440111 (custom/ukrs/pb_ukrs.grf) 20:27:24 <peter1138> better 20:27:33 <peter1138> need to strip the path though, heh 20:28:23 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7232 /trunk/ (saveload.c saveload.h settings.c): -Codechange: Also allow for the save/load of non pre-allocated strings inside structs. 20:29:09 <Sacro> peter1138: i like having a path 20:29:33 <peter1138> hmm? 20:29:46 <Sacro> if you specified a path in the cfg 20:29:51 <Sacro> it'd be nice to know for debugging 20:29:58 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-206-178.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 20:31:55 <Sacro> lolman: LOOK OUT FOR THE WALRUS 20:32:26 <lws|Away> lolman's back? 20:32:33 *** lws|Away is now known as lws1984 20:32:39 <Sacro> lws1984: yes 20:32:42 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-2681.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:44 <Sacro> yet no Bjarni 20:33:57 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-188.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:35:50 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> could be a major disappointment for bjarni :p 20:37:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> he thought he successfully scared him off 20:37:56 *** Coutal [~Coutal@85.64.228.215.dynamic.barak-online.net] has left #openttd [] 20:38:06 <Sacro> hehe 20:39:19 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-11704.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:49:01 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:53:25 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:56 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 20:55:18 <Born_Acorn> Sacro, I'm bringing pastryback 20:55:25 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: :o 20:55:29 <Born_Acorn> When I transport it I like to wear a hat. 20:55:46 <Sacro> :O 20:55:53 <Born_Acorn> I think you'd agree that it don't look whack 20:56:09 <Born_Acorn> something something something protect from attack 20:56:12 <Sacro> TAKE IT TO THE FRIDGE! 20:57:17 <Born_Acorn> cos this pastry 20:57:28 <Born_Acorn> It makes the casing of the tasty pie! 20:58:18 <Born_Acorn> I let you have some if you help me bake 20:58:36 <Sacro> ok! 20:58:38 <Born_Acorn> because I can't read this recipie! 20:58:44 <Sacro> you suck! 20:58:45 <Born_Acorn> Look out for the Walrus! 20:58:51 <Sacro> ooh me manslacks 21:03:42 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-11704.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:47 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-60-228-44-63.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:05:13 <Ailure> gotta love how that UFO disaster 21:05:19 <Ailure> always seems to take the same spot 21:06:04 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:06:09 <peter1138> woot 21:06:14 <peter1138> ukrs is now pre-1920 :D 21:06:29 <Born_Acorn> Do we have pre 1920ness? 21:07:15 <Sacro> peter1138: orly? what kinda stuff? 21:07:35 <peter1138> well... trains 21:07:41 <Gorre> Do you guys know if this page - http://graphics.openttd.org/sourcefiles/ - exists in different location? 21:08:35 <peter1138> hmm, but no wagons, lol 21:10:34 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:31 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 21:25:50 *** MaulingMonkey_iBook [~panda@c-24-18-216-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:07 <peter1138> ook 21:30:52 *** Bear [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:13 <BFM> My boss is watching porn again =\ 21:31:35 <smeding> fun 21:31:53 <BFM> He doesn't understand that that sorta stuff can get you fired :( 21:32:04 <peter1138> Darkvater: do we have a solution for the win32 nightlies? 21:34:55 *** Bear [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:48:46 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:51:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 21:52:12 <Sacro> oh noes 21:56:25 <BFM> lolz, http://gamepolitics.com/2006/11/18/bill-oreilly-slams-playstation-3-launch-gamers-ipods-tech-not-in-that-order/ 21:56:57 <Darkvater> peter1138: hmm any proposals? 21:57:27 <Darkvater> I can't do any crosscompilers meself 21:57:43 <BFM> Who needs hard crack and prostitutes when you've got a SNES! ^_^ 21:58:25 <lolman> Oh yes 21:58:53 <lolman> An Amiga is better though BFM :-D 21:59:02 <BFM> hahaha 21:59:47 <BFM> A playstation 3 to an Amiga is like, Meth to beer :D 22:01:06 <Nigel> i have a 64bit machine, but it's only got a 32bit OS so no help there 22:02:14 * lolman can't run a 64 bit OS without killing ndiswrapper compatibility 22:02:17 <lolman> :( 22:02:32 <Darkvater> peter1138: I'd be most happy if TL could find a way to remake the crosscompiler 22:03:36 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:02 <Nigel> i'd offer my hardware, but i don't want to get rid of my current Windows Setup... i've just perfected it 22:09:46 <peter1138> hmm 22:10:02 <peter1138> and also 22:10:06 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0EF88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:10:10 <peter1138> how should i let the user bypass this grf thingy 22:10:15 <Sacro> what are you after? my new pc should come tommorow, just waiting on cpu 22:10:20 <peter1138> at least, for upgraded grfs 22:10:41 <Darkvater> hat do you mean? 22:10:42 <Darkvater> +w 22:10:57 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7233 /trunk/ (console.c console.h window.c): -Codechange: get rid of three console.c globals 22:11:56 <Darkvater> peter1138: you mean ignore non-fatal errors? 22:13:12 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has quit [Quit: Socially inept? You bet I am!] 22:16:30 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0E9A2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:55 <peter1138> something like that 22:21:10 <peter1138> Couldn't find NewGRF 44440111 (custom/ukrs/pb_ukrs.grf) checksum 108481AFC39C8D225DCAB1F6B112E343 22:21:24 <peter1138> 7a72bfb52f627ebc3052e1ce4d4f8ee8 pb_ukrs.grf 22:21:33 <peter1138> cos it are updated 22:22:47 <Darkvater> hmm... t'is an interesting problem 22:23:40 <Darkvater> I think that there are two cases 22:23:49 <Darkvater> but first: an updated grf has the same ID no? 22:24:00 <peter1138> same id, usually 22:24:06 <Darkvater> ok usually 22:24:11 <Darkvater> we have two options then 22:24:36 <Darkvater> 1. we do not have the grf specified in the savegame but have a similar one (same ID), warning 22:24:41 <Darkvater> 2. no grf, error 22:24:52 <Darkvater> in both cases a window pops up informing us 22:25:05 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Friendship is like peeing your pants. Everyone can see it, but only you can feel its true warmth.] 22:25:18 <Darkvater> in this window we can say: 'ignore' or 'cancel' 22:25:24 <Darkvater> cancel obviously doesn't load the game 22:25:42 <Darkvater> ignore loads the game again, but now a global flag silently ignores any errors 22:26:09 <peter1138> hmm 22:26:14 <peter1138> might work 22:26:25 <peter1138> obviously the only option is 2 for network games 22:26:57 <peter1138> need a modal window too ;) 22:27:24 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176117112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:27:47 <Darkvater> ugh 22:27:51 <Darkvater> modal window is post-0.5 22:29:39 <Sacro> heh http://tt-forums.net/files/screendump_156.jpg, have fun debugging :p 22:30:06 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-15619.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 22:30:09 <Darkvater> Sacro: we don't support that; custom build 22:30:45 <Sacro> Darkvater: so it is, if you squint enough 22:32:13 *** vicio986 [vicio986@host97-134-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 22:32:17 *** vicio986 [vicio986@host97-134-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #openttd [] 22:32:39 <Darkvater> :) 22:37:57 <peter1138> OpenTTD what? 22:39:56 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:40:06 <peter1138> Sacro: where did that come from? heh 22:40:18 <peter1138> oh, found it 22:40:22 <Darkvater> wher? 22:40:40 <Sacro> peter1138: dev forum -> subsiduaries 22:40:44 <peter1138> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=521127#521127 22:41:03 <Nigel> peter1138, if when a grf gets updated, surely the user can choose to upgrade the grf checksums in the savegame? 22:41:31 <peter1138> yeah, i'll let them get the hex editor out 22:42:58 <Darkvater> well you would get a warning if you have a newer version in your directory and if you ignore that 22:43:07 <peter1138> "newer" 22:43:08 <Darkvater> and then save the game you get the version saved you have now 22:43:16 <peter1138> checksums have no concept of newer 22:43:21 <Darkvater> yes...newer...does newgrf have such an identifier? 22:43:35 <peter1138> newp 22:43:41 <Darkvater> we should ask TTDP for a new newgrf action 22:43:52 <Darkvater> that specifies newgrf version 22:45:04 <peter1138> possibly 22:45:07 <peter1138> or we can let the user pick 22:45:56 <Darkvater> user pick as in? 22:46:01 <Darkvater> error out or ignore? 22:46:10 <peter1138> pick which grf to replace with 22:46:15 <peter1138> as long as grfid matches 22:46:31 <peter1138> gets a bit complex though heh 22:46:35 <Darkvater> you mean you would have multiple wrong versions of the same newgrf in your directory? 22:47:01 <peter1138> you can do, yes 22:47:17 <Darkvater> 'tis getting awfully complex 22:47:27 <peter1138> hehe 22:47:35 <Darkvater> imho: non-matching checksum but same ID: give warning and let user decide/sort it out 22:47:47 <peter1138> quite 22:47:53 <Darkvater> and nothing more 22:48:08 <peter1138> well, that's what i said, basically. 22:48:08 <peter1138> anyway 22:48:09 <Darkvater> and ask TTDP-gurus to add versioning informatino 22:48:11 <Darkvater> good :) 22:48:12 <peter1138> sleepy time 22:48:15 <Darkvater> nini 22:54:35 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish] 22:57:56 <Wolf01> 'night 22:58:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 23:03:38 <Darkvater> my god 23:03:42 <Darkvater> bjarni-code ;( 23:03:52 <glx> again ? 23:04:01 <Darkvater> no, still 23:04:52 <Darkvater> I just love how he merged some of the windows. You want to change 1 thing and now you can do a quite few more changes in totally unrleated places 23:04:55 <Darkvater> ... 23:05:34 *** MaulingMonkey_iBook is now known as iMonkey 23:05:56 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-75-120.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 23:08:25 <CIA-1> glx * r7234 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (config.lib configure): [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: when removing \n, also remove \r 23:09:25 *** iMonkey [~panda@c-24-18-216-187.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iMonkey] 23:10:34 *** meros [~meros@41.80-202-197.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:11:20 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7235 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 23:11:20 <CIA-1> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: set svn:eol-style for the new Makefile related files. 23:11:20 <CIA-1> [MakefileRewrite] -Change: add MSVC generated project files to the svn:ignore list. 23:11:29 *** Bear [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 23:12:33 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F5EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13:14 *** iMonkey [~panda@c-24-18-216-187.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:19:14 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 23:23:34 <meros> Hmm, where can i get maps or scenariois? 23:25:46 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:56 <BFM> meros, random generate ftw! 23:26:57 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:28:51 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:29:21 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:31:09 <lolman> Evening all :) 23:31:22 <Sacro> oh noes 23:31:29 <lolman> :P 23:31:33 <lolman> Ello Sacro 23:31:34 <meros> BFM: hehe, im not sure how i do that P 23:34:35 <lolman> Hmm, Sacro, you seen Bjarni at all recently? 23:36:54 <Sacro> !seen Bjarni 23:36:55 <_42_> Sacro, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen quitting #openttd 1 day 1 hour 4 minutes ago (20.11. 22:32) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 1 hour 2 minutes there. 23:37:02 <Sacro> he was in last night for a short while 23:38:03 <lolman> :) 23:38:30 <lolman> Need to hit him with the news I haven't had time to do that changelog :P 23:38:48 <Sacro> oh 23:39:23 <lolman> And I still don't, coursework up to me neck 23:40:40 <Sacro> yeah, me too 23:40:47 <meros> Someone, how do i create a "random map"? 23:40:50 <Sacro> well college, hardly got any coursework 23:40:54 <Sacro> meros: new game.. 23:41:57 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:42:41 <lolman> Looking like I'll get lobbed out too... 23:42:51 <lolman> But I have other options 23:42:53 <lolman> :P 23:45:37 <Sacro> oh? 23:45:44 <lolman> Only course I actually wanted to do was Computing...and that ended up being crap...we're being taught VB :-\ 23:45:52 <Sacro> yeah im doing VB too 23:45:58 <Sacro> but im teaching myself C# 23:46:15 <lolman> Don't blame you 23:46:24 <lolman> I should have done that a year back 23:47:15 <Sacro> Labour councillors in Reading, Berkshire are to stop asking job applicants for their academic qualifications. They say it discriminates against people who don't have any. (The Times) 23:47:21 <Sacro> i should have done it 4 years ago 23:47:23 <lolman> LOL 23:50:36 <Sacro> hehe 23:50:54 <lolman> Remind me to move to Reading... 23:51:02 <Sacro> yeah 23:52:26 * lolman is loving his connection :P 23:54:09 <lolman> NTL still haven't taken this month's money...over a week overdue now 23:54:49 <Born_Acorn> They'll phone you with a bill 23:54:51 <Born_Acorn> :p 23:55:02 <Born_Acorn> *fine 23:55:15 <lolman> Born_Acorn, lol 23:55:30 <lolman> The money is in my account ready 23:55:39 <lolman> They just haven't taken it... 23:56:25 <Sacro> your account? 23:56:30 <lolman> Yeah 23:56:34 <Sacro> you pay for ntl? 23:56:34 <Sacro> :| 23:56:52 <lolman> My dad pays, he doesn't have a bank account 23:56:56 <Sacro> oh 23:57:13 <lolman> I pay £17.50, half the broadband cost, he pays the rest 23:57:58 <lolman> (That was the condition on which I got 10Mb) 23:57:59 <Sacro> hmm 23:58:01 <Sacro> :o 23:58:04 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:58:40 * lolman strokes 10Mb 23:58:53 <lolman> Can download SVN in a few seconds :P 23:59:01 <tormentum> bah 23:59:19 <Sacro> :( 23:59:26 <Sacro> hey Tobin 23:59:29 <Sacro> errm, tormentum 23:59:38 <lolman> Ello tormentum 23:59:52 <tormentum> greets peeps