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00:25:55 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:28:01 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-128-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:01 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:11 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 00:36:48 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:48:40 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:15:55 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Server closed connection] 01:16:26 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 01:22:45 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-227.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:52 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:40:46 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-224-207.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:44:33 *** Rens2AFK [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 02:00:08 <Ailure> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=6565&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180 02:00:16 <Ailure> I wish I knew how some users manage to bump such old threads 02:06:16 <Eddi|zuHause> that's totally easy, just enter some random keywords, sort for anything other than newest, click reply, and type in some nonsense 02:06:55 <Eddi|zuHause> the only prerequisite is lack of intelligence 02:07:58 <Eddi|zuHause> because intelligence is counterproductive to the randomness required 02:13:45 *** dp [~dp@p54B2D0B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:15:13 <Ailure> heh 02:22:37 <Ailure> on Acmlm board 02:22:42 <Ailure> most peoplew who bump old threads 02:22:48 <Ailure> and I mean over a year old thread 02:22:58 <Ailure> usually aren't very literate 02:31:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B763D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:35:27 *** dp [~dp@p54B2D0B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:37:35 *** dp [~dp@p54B2DC86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:38:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:52:49 *** Nigel_ is now known as Nigel 03:06:24 *** dp_ [~dp@p54B2E40C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:06:46 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:07:03 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 03:10:12 *** dp [~dp@p54B2DC86.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:22:46 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]] 03:40:47 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 03:59:36 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has joined #openttd 04:00:21 <_Ben_> urm...spam >> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29634&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 << If anyones around that has the abilty to remove it 04:00:26 <_Ben_> http://www.tt-forums.net/search.php?search_author=Addick74 04:00:31 <Sacro> nobodys around 04:01:00 <_Ben_> its been pointed out already? or shall I quickly point it out in the tt channel? 04:01:17 <Sacro> its been noted in #tycoon 04:01:22 <_Ben_> ok cool, cheers 04:01:42 <Sacro> its ok :) 04:01:55 <_Ben_> bye 04:01:57 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has left #openttd [Leaving] 04:33:17 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:49:16 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:13:39 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 05:53:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r8569 /trunk/src/ (bridge_gui.cpp engine_gui.cpp): -Fix (r8464): revert properly 06:31:17 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489DAB4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:38:40 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489C42B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:01:53 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 07:07:02 <MiHaMiX> mornin' 08:04:13 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 08:13:24 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3E122.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:18:33 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3EF3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:59 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 08:23:28 *** ThePizzaKing_ [~jeff@c211-28-156-202.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:23:57 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-20.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ThePizzaKing_))] 08:24:01 *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing 08:34:27 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-227.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 08:45:32 *** Nigel_ [~nigel@202-154-151-60.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 08:46:52 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB75B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:47:17 *** Nigel [~nigel@202-154-151-60.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:50:07 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 09:14:13 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CF18.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:25:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host203-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:26:15 <Wolf01> morning 09:31:36 <raimar2> good morning 09:38:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CA63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:40:38 *** thunder1 [~thu@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:46:13 *** thunder1 [~thu@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:46:24 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:06:55 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82FA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:09:09 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80F13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:09:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:09:11 *** Mizipzor [Mizipzor@c-8a6370d5.020-16-6b736810.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:10:48 *** dp [~dp@p54B2DA04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:12:53 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 10:17:46 *** dp_ [~dp@p54B2E40C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8570 /trunk/src/ (airport.cpp airport.h): 10:26:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 10:26:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Add a regular constructor and destructor to AirportFTAClass 10:26:56 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5819.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:27 <izhirahider> the default STR_RESET_LANDSCAPE_TOOLTIP is clearly wrong : "Remove all player-owned property from the map" I think is not the appropriate tooltip for a "Reset Landscape" button in a Scenario Editor. 10:29:49 <Wolf01> in fact, there isn't player property in scenarios ;) 10:31:51 <izhirahider> and the message is a bit ambiguous too 10:39:05 <peter1138> ... 10:39:06 <peter1138> there is 10:39:36 <Wolf01> yes, player none, water and cities 10:40:24 <izhirahider> peter1138, the button is supposed to wipe out properties from *all* the players? 10:40:45 <izhirahider> or possibly just one 10:43:52 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:45:21 <peter1138> all 10:47:00 <peter1138> works fine 10:54:44 <Wolf01> mmmh i get this warning: left shift count >= width of type 10:54:45 <Wolf01> after converting if (_transparent_opt & DO_TRANS_BRIDGES) { to if (HASBIT(_transparent_opt, DO_TRANS_BRIDGES)) { 10:57:16 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 11:00:57 <peter1138> yeah 11:01:12 <izhirahider> peter1138, how can I put player-owned property on a scenario? 11:01:18 <peter1138> remove the 1 << x stuff from your DO_TRANS_ 11:01:22 <peter1138> izhirahider: by loading a savegame 11:07:47 <izhirahider> interesting, it really works 11:08:04 <izhirahider> Although I had to rename .sav to .scn 11:08:06 <izhirahider> thanks 11:08:38 *** e1ko [~L@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:10:54 <Wolf01> thank you peter, if you want to look at the diff: http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/patches/transparency_options_gui_2.diff 11:11:32 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 11:14:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8572 /trunk/src/stdafx.h: 11:14:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: use the C++ version of the Standard C Library headers. 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11:53:41 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-156-202.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:14:46 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:14:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 12:24:01 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 12:36:15 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1174.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: edgepro: Sanity is a full time job.] 12:38:30 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 12:44:45 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-74.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 13:01:59 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B299EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:07:36 <ln-> has anyone been here: http://eu.airliners.net/photos/photos/3/0/9/1169903.jpg 13:11:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i've seen that (or a similar) photo before, but i have no idea where it is supposed to be 13:12:49 <ln-> Philipsburg / St. Maarten - Princess Juliana (SXM / TNCM) 13:12:51 <ln-> Netherlands Antilles 13:14:17 <tokai> looks photoshop'ed 13:14:36 <ln-> yeah, but it's not 13:15:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> i can say i have definitely not been to the Netherlands Antilles :p 13:15:17 <tokai> ln-: it is. 13:16:00 <ln-> tokai: no. 13:16:08 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:27 <tokai> ln-: it is. thats definitivly not real 13:17:02 <Rubidium> it could be the airfield on http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=17.904068,-62.84376&spn=0.019193,0.013111&t=k&om=1 13:17:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Ihr Webbrowser wird von Google Maps nicht vollständig unterstützt." ... idiots 13:17:57 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:19:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> wtf? it says that even in firefox 13:19:41 <SpComb> using OS/2? 13:19:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, SuSE 13:19:50 <ln-> tokai: take a look at this photo from another angle: http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6 13:20:39 <SpComb> tokai: it's not photoshopped 13:20:43 * SpComb has even landed a 747 there 13:21:11 <SpComb> I hit the fence though, and the second time around I couldn't figure out how to apply to brakes so I slid off the end of the runway 13:21:15 <SpComb> the third time around I hit the water 13:21:18 <tokai> ln-: the second looks real. the 1st one is faked 13:21:57 <tokai> ln-: perspective is wrong.. object size relation is wrong... light is wrong.. also you see its shopped at the airplane borders 13:22:02 <SpComb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Juliana_Airport 13:22:06 <ln-> tokai: people have done a lot of photoshopping then: http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?&s=1&keywords=st+maarten 13:22:53 <SpComb> I'd say the shadows are right on the first one as well 13:23:29 <SpComb> quoting wikipedia: "Countless photos of large jets flying at 10--20 m/30-60 ft over relaxing tourists at the beach have been dismissed as photoshopped many times, but are nevertheless real." 13:24:08 <SpComb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:StMaartenApproach.jpg <-- etc 13:25:06 <tokai> ln-: possible. photoshopping is quit easy 13:25:41 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-239-223.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:25:48 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-239-223.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 13:26:01 <Rubidium> tokai: somebody who has done a lot of photoshopping then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvNONncieu0 13:26:56 <tokai> youtube is not supported here:) 13:27:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8581 /branches/32bpp/ (120 files in 7 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync r7300:7400 from trunk. 13:27:30 <tokai> u have a link to the raw .flv? 13:28:30 <Rubidium> how to get that? 13:29:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> hey, less than 1200 revisions to go ;) 13:29:29 <tokai> rubidium: no idea:) but i can watch that with mplayer 13:29:35 <Rubidium> maybe http://www.youtube.com/v/PvNONncieu0 13:30:20 <SpComb> that island is way too crowded 13:30:24 <tokai> 14:30:09 ERROR 303: See Other. 13:30:37 <tokai> Rubidium: doesn't do :) 13:31:37 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:31:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:32:47 <Progman> tokai: http://youtube.com/get_video?video_id=PvNONncieu0&t=OEgsToPDskI0IRhZWDjax2ywktk96Jem&s=DEE7B0CDAC510791:CD54700A348F8F2E 13:33:41 <Rubidium> or http://www.compfused.com/DownloadXref.aspx?fileUrl=http://media2.compfused.com/comp/58oxdwc/747_landing_st__208.wmv&contentid=1280 13:35:43 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 13:44:53 *** e1ko [~L@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 13:46:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8582 /trunk/src/ (airport.cpp airport.h order.h): 13:46:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 13:46:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Reorder the attributes of some structs to reduce their size 13:46:29 <tokai> looked crazy. still first pic looks fake to me. something is wrong with it:) 13:47:42 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:44 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 14:00:57 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B299EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8583 /branches/32bpp/ (87 files in 6 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync r7400:7500 from trunk. 14:17:00 *** nairan_here [~Maui_key@p5498DDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:17:13 *** nairan_here [~Maui_key@p5498DDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:17:19 <nairan> hmpf 14:20:59 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 14:21:47 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 14:35:39 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:41:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8584 /branches/32bpp/ (165 files in 16 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync r7500:7600 from trunk. 14:47:28 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB75B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 14:47:33 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB75B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:50:33 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 15:06:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8585 /branches/32bpp/ (96 files in 11 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync r7600:7700 from trunk. 15:09:40 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:16:21 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:29:41 *** green-devil [~rendmig@0x573556bd.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:37:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8586 /branches/32bpp/ (95 files in 8 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync r7700:7758 from trunk. 15:46:53 *** Wolfy [~wolf@a61145.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:46:53 <Wolfy> t 15:47:01 *** Wolfy is now known as Wolfensteijn 16:03:31 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2B525.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:07:00 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176127230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:22:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8587 /branches/32bpp/ (542 files in 37 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync with trunk r7759 16:23:16 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80F13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 16:25:30 <izhirahider> Having two separate station near a forest, or a coal mine, is there any trick/thing I can do make the wood, coal, etc, go for one station instead of the other? 16:26:37 <Rubidium> better station rating, buying exclusive transport rights 16:27:48 <izhirahider> I own the two stations, but some wood is spilling off to the other station that I use for other stuff, while leaving the station I reserved for wood half empty :( 16:28:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> don't send wood trains there 16:29:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> if there never stops a wood train, no wood gets delivered 16:29:12 <Rubidium> the rating of the other station will decline slowly and I think it stops getting woods after it has not been serviced for quite a long time 16:29:58 <izhirahider> ok, I thought there could be a "ban this stuff from this station" feature hidden somewhere 16:30:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> there is, you just have to write a GUI for it, to set it manually 16:37:29 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2: not just writing a GUI, there is more involved 16:46:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, yes, you have to duplicate the current bits to store if it is manually overridden, and you have to add saveload instructions 16:47:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> but that appears to be rather minimal 16:47:42 <Rubidium> and some stuff to make it network safe 16:49:01 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2B525.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 17:24:08 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:23 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 17:57:51 *** IGAAB [~OpenBrasi@200.181.157.233] has joined #openttd 17:58:03 *** IGAAB [~OpenBrasi@200.181.157.233] has left #openttd [] 17:58:53 *** voodoo070 [~voodoo@c529c249d.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:12 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:07:13 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:08:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:18:53 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:20:48 *** Klanticus [~chatzilla@200-171-20-126.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 18:22:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 18:36:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r8588 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) 18:36:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-02-04 19:36:03 18:36:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 fixed by arnaullv (1) 18:36:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: czech - 3 fixed, 12 changed by Hadez (15) 18:36:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: esperanto - 2 fixed by LaPingvino (2) 18:36:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 4 fixed by miham (4) 18:36:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 8 fixed by leejaeuk5 (8) 18:36:50 *** green-devil [~rendmig@0x573556bd.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 18:42:53 <ln-> is the korean translator from the south or north? 18:44:15 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host203-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolfolo|AWAY))] 18:44:15 *** Wolfolo|AWAY [~wolf01@host203-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:44:46 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:45:45 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 18:46:34 <izhirahider> is there a difference? 18:49:00 <Tron> MiHaMiX 18:49:01 <Tron> ? 18:49:36 <ln-> izhirahider: i hope you are not seriously asking that question. 18:50:12 <Tron> MiHaMiX: case/gender in russian.txt doesn't look sensible 18:51:36 <izhirahider> ln-, I didn't know they had two different languages :) 18:52:05 <izhirahider> ln-, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_language 18:54:03 <Bjarni> <ln-> is the korean translator from the south or north? <-- considering how much they are allowed to use the internet in the North, I would say south 18:54:39 <ln-> izhirahider: i'd guess the economy & stock market related vocabulary could be a little more limited in the north. 18:56:08 <Bjarni> you mean like a major stockholder could be translated as "a man of pure evil"? 18:56:40 <ln-> something like that 18:58:29 <Bjarni> for all we know, the Korean translation is like that and is committed by the government to ensure that it talks bad about capitalism now that they can't stop the game itself 18:59:06 <Tron> MiHaMiX: quite some things do not make sense there 18:59:09 <Tron> for example 18:59:20 <Tron> STR_01FE_DIFFICULTY :{BLACK}СлПжМПÑ\x81Ñ\x82Ñ\x8c ({STRING.f}) 18:59:36 <Tron> but there is no .f string, which gets used with that 18:59:52 <Tron> (STR_6801_EASY till STR_6804_CUSTOM) 19:00:19 <ln-> what charset was that? 19:00:53 <Tron> UTF-8 displayed in ISO8859-15 19:01:02 <Tefad> hehehhehe 19:01:25 <Tron> for some reason i don't comprehend the standard xterm font has korean glyphs, but no cyrillic 19:01:33 <Tefad> get efont 19:01:45 <Tefad> and make sure utf8 is in your lang or locale 19:02:01 <peter1138> hello 19:02:04 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02:11 <Bjarni> you 19:02:11 <peter1138> and goodbye 19:02:14 <peter1138> me? 19:02:18 <Tefad> YOU!! 19:02:26 <Tron> Tefad: well, the problem is the font. If i switch xterm to UTF-8 (and the locale, too, of course) i simply see nothing for cyrillic chars 19:02:40 <Tefad> yup, definately get efont 19:02:49 <Tefad> it looks fine for most terminal uses 19:02:51 * peter1138 is off home 19:02:58 <Sacro> peter1138: on a sunday? 19:03:00 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 19:03:04 <peter1138> spending sunday evening at telehouse is not my idea of fun 19:03:10 <Tefad> not the prettiest at large scales, but gets the job done 19:03:11 <peter1138> Sacro, yeah, dead PSU in a server... 19:03:19 <Sacro> peter1138: ahh nasty 19:03:21 <Tron> MiHaMiX: STR_ORDER_REFIT_FAILED looks strange in korean.txt (it's the only sentence ending in two question marks) 19:07:10 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:23 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 19:11:30 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18025.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:26 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:06 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 19:33:00 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:35:21 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 19:48:21 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 19:56:13 *** Sacro [~ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:51 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 20:06:22 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D306.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:08 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D52E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:26 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80F13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:15:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:42:39 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl54006810.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:42:45 <Andrew_Conelli> Hello 20:43:05 <MiHaMiX> Tron: i'll ask about it from the translators 20:43:30 <Andrew_Conelli> why do some code OTTD servers? 20:45:25 <hylje> wut? 20:45:38 <Andrew_Conelli> why do the yuse password for servers? 20:45:47 <Andrew_Conelli> use* 20:45:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> a) private servers 20:45:57 <hylje> to not let random passers-by to join 20:46:07 <Andrew_Conelli> ... 20:46:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> b) force you to read a rules page with the password before entering 20:46:18 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:20 <Andrew_Conelli> why? what's the problem with random pass-byers? 20:46:39 <Andrew_Conelli> what if there's no URL in the server name? 20:46:53 <hylje> then they dont want people in 20:46:59 <Andrew_Conelli> lol... 20:47:05 <Andrew_Conelli> antisocial gamers... 20:47:19 <Andrew_Conelli> i don't even code my companies... 20:47:55 <Andrew_Conelli> sometimes there are unoccupied companies, which doesn't have any stations or vehicles... someone join and left 20:48:01 <Andrew_Conelli> and do nothings 20:48:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's your choice, but most people do not like if someone joins and levels all land to sea 20:48:12 <Andrew_Conelli> sometimes i "save" those too :) 20:48:29 <Andrew_Conelli> i don't do shit... 20:48:39 <Andrew_Conelli> i only develope new lines 20:48:47 <Andrew_Conelli> connecting it to mainline... 20:48:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, but someone else finding your unprotected company 20:49:05 <Andrew_Conelli> and mess up things?.. maybe... 20:49:18 <Andrew_Conelli> but i don't have a regular "playground" 20:49:28 <Andrew_Conelli> so i sometimes join to servers 20:49:37 <Andrew_Conelli> i like mostly the Miniin 20:49:44 <Andrew_Conelli> because you can cooperate there 20:49:56 <Andrew_Conelli> using others' lines and stations... 20:50:24 <Andrew_Conelli> and advanced town handling turned on makes construction extremely expensive 20:50:37 <Andrew_Conelli> so you can't expand as you want... 20:50:49 <Andrew_Conelli> so you have to cooperate with others 20:50:57 <Andrew_Conelli> sharing lines and stations :D 20:51:31 <Andrew_Conelli> some players in those games don't even have rails... only trains running around other companies' lines 20:51:56 <Andrew_Conelli> but the usage of other companies' rails and stations cost you some money... 20:52:32 *** A1win [a1win@loota.fi] has joined #openttd 20:55:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 20:58:57 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:03:12 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl54006810.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: I'm leaving byeZ! 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You Are My Heart, My Hope, My Help. 21:27:55 <Roel> :P 21:29:03 *** MrFitz [~rogueops@d47-69-221-168.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #openttd 21:30:12 *** MrFitz [~rogueops@d47-69-221-168.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [] 21:31:35 <peter1138> :D 21:31:39 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 21:31:46 * peter1138 hands Roel a fiver 21:32:24 * Roel highfives back 21:39:17 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CF18.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:57 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090AC7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:40:46 *** XeryusTC2 [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 21:41:07 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:10 <Ailure> vzcxv 21:46:20 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 21:46:25 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 21:51:22 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-74.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:36 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:56:20 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> electron.oftc.net quits: Triffid_Hunter 21:58:23 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:59:30 *** Tuzlo [~bill@blk-215-68-38.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 21:59:49 <Tuzlo> http://jaalm.homedns.org/image.png Why do my trucks do this? 22:00:35 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 22:00:40 <Rubidium> what version are you using? 22:01:11 <Tuzlo> 0.5.0 rc1 22:01:30 <Tuzlo> I have bus stations l;ined up like that and they dont do that 22:01:31 <Rubidium> does it happen in rc4? 22:01:38 <Tuzlo> only the truck station 22:01:44 <Tuzlo> I dont have that version 22:02:23 <Tuzlo> gettin it now 22:03:35 <Wolf01> [23:01:33] <Rubidium> does it happen in rc4? <- yes, at least in the nightly r8536 i have the same problem, but only if they are lined, if i put them in two lines in the same road they work 22:04:05 <Tuzlo> 2 lines in the same road? 22:04:23 <Wolf01> xxxx 22:04:23 <Wolf01> road 22:04:23 <Wolf01> xxxx 22:04:31 <Tuzlo> tried that, didnt help either 22:04:38 <Tuzlo> they still only went to the first one 22:06:34 <Rubidium> Wolf01: can you make a bugreport with the savegame @ bugs.openttd.org? 22:06:48 <Wolf01> i can't load the savegame :P 22:07:06 <Rubidium> why can't you load the savegame? 22:07:10 <Wolf01> custom version of daylength 22:07:44 <Rubidium> too bad :) 22:08:01 <Rubidium> Tuzlo: if it still happens in 0.5.0-RC4, can you make a bugreport with savegame @ bugs.openttd.org? 22:08:29 <KeeperOfTheSoul> is there any easy way to check on all your stations cargo ratings? to make sure there are no bad ratings? 22:08:40 <Wolf01> station list? 22:09:16 <KeeperOfTheSoul> but i still have to open each station one by one from that 22:09:40 <Tuzlo> ijm tryin to get it to do it in a row like Wolf01 said 22:11:38 <KeeperOfTheSoul> also, how does the cargo rating sort work for stations? accending or decending, neither give me the stations with the lowest ratings in one place? 22:12:39 <KeeperOfTheSoul> I have a 76% at the top, 83% at the bottom, when there are ones which rank 68% or less around 22:13:35 <Wolf01> multiple cargo? 22:13:41 <KeeperOfTheSoul> nope 22:17:44 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=549734#549734 the return of the bot 22:19:49 <Tuzlo> return of the bot? You mean Forum spam? 22:21:05 <Wolf01> yes, the spammer bot 22:21:57 <Tuzlo> yeah we were seeing them a LOT in a TDI forum I frequent 22:30:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8589 /branches/32bpp/src/fontcache.c: [32bpp] -Fix: Utf8 sync (r8453) was not cleanly done. 22:32:54 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-74.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 22:32:55 * Roel misses a zoom option in openttd.. 22:33:08 <Roel> can't figure out what kind of a sign I placed.. 22:33:49 <Wolf01> ctrl+d if in windows and windowed 22:34:12 <Wolf01> or set the resolution at 800x600 22:34:26 <Roel> yeah, that works in windows but not in linux 22:34:40 <Wolf01> try the second option ;) 22:34:59 <Roel> that makes the window 800x600 22:35:09 <Wolf01> and not full screen? 22:35:12 <Roel> but doesn't change the resolution :) 22:35:18 <Roel> well, the fullscreen button doesn't work 22:35:24 <Wolf01> :( 22:35:31 <Roel> could be an xinerama issue 22:36:05 <Roel> eek.. and now i've lost the openttd window?! 22:36:07 <Wolf01> alt+enter? (or is it windows only?) 22:37:03 <Roel> that's windows only i'm afraid 22:40:32 <Rubidium> alt+enter is not windows only 22:40:47 <Roel> well, then is doesn't work here.. :) 22:41:54 <Rubidium> what happens if you set fullscreen_bpp to 32 in openttd.cfg 22:42:08 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:42:44 <Rubidium> ok, that won't work :(, as that's actually windows only 22:43:01 <Roel> roel@frozone:~/.openttd$ grep fullscreen openttd.cfg 22:43:01 <Roel> fullscreen = false 22:43:06 <Roel> so that can't be the problem :) 22:43:33 <glx> no it changes when you go fullscreen 22:44:07 <Roel> well, if I click the fullscreen icon in the Options menu, nothing happens 22:44:09 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090AC7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:44:25 <Rubidium> then something prohibits you from changing the resolution 22:44:35 <Roel> dbg: Could not find a suitable fullscreen resolution. 22:44:36 <glx> do you have other SDL app that can go fullscreen? 22:45:00 <Roel> (btw, i'm running Xinerama (dualscreen) and i think that's the problem here) 22:45:50 <Roel> haven't tried other sdl apps.. let's try frozenbubbles ;0 22:47:53 <Roel> well.. that one goes fullscreen, but sits perfectly in the middle so it not realy useable 22:52:04 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:52:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host203-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 22:53:12 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5819.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:46 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-144-131-69-85.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:54:39 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:49 <Tuzlo> wish ya could build bridges on a diagonaal like the rail lines can or make tunnels for trucks 22:55:29 <Rubidium> you can make tunnels for trucks 22:55:57 <Tuzlo> doh, didnt know that 22:56:06 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@a61145.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm gone, bye bye :)] 22:56:12 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 22:56:21 <Rubidium> same way as you make tunnels for trains, only with the 'road' toolbar instead of the 'rail' toolbar 22:57:52 *** Mizipzor [Mizipzor@c-8a6370d5.020-16-6b736810.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:37 <Tuzlo> I see it now 22:59:13 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:36 <Tuzlo> ok, I moved my truck farm and it works fine now 23:01:12 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:09:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CA63.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:05 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C196.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:12:14 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 23:14:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8590 /branches/32bpp/src/ (fontcache.c spriteloader32.c): [32bpp] -Fix: A miss in the last commit and removal of an unnecessary #ifdef 23:17:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DE48.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:21:28 <Tuzlo> so ya got 20 or so trains on one line delivering materials. How can you stop the congestion when a train breaks down? 23:28:20 <KeeperOfTheSoul> use two lines? 23:28:26 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498DDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:02 <KeeperOfTheSoul> and have periodic parts where trains can switch between them 23:29:17 <KeeperOfTheSoul> would work best when using path based signaling 23:30:15 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498E2E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:38:01 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:42:05 <Tuzlo> path based signalling isnt in mainstream is it? 23:42:11 <KeeperOfTheSoul> yeah, something doesn't seem quite right with the cargo rating max sort, but I'm not sure what 23:42:26 <KeeperOfTheSoul> Tuzlo: no idea 23:43:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8591 /branches/32bpp/ (23 files in 9 dirs): [32bpp] -Sync r7759:7800 from trunk. 23:44:43 <Rubidium> Tuzlo: it ain't in trunk nor 0.5 23:47:50 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 23:52:50 <KeeperOfTheSoul> how do I get a station's name whilst stopped in a debugger? 23:53:43 <Rubidium> what do you have of the station? A StationID or a Station *? 23:53:49 <KeeperOfTheSoul> Station * 23:54:25 <Rubidium> 'var'->string_id 23:55:37 <Rubidium> hmm, well, that's only a part of the data used to determine the name 23:56:58 <KeeperOfTheSoul> it's just for some strange reason StationRatingMaxSorter doesn't seem to be sorting correctly, but it's hard to track what is happening without knowing what station I'm looking at 23:58:37 <Rubidium> the main problem is that the station name is built using 3 components; the string_id (which can point to a custom name) and 2 variables to encode the town name 23:59:45 <KeeperOfTheSoul> well I guess it's the second one, since I havn't renamed the stations