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00:14:59  <Bjarni> <mojs>	Bjarni: Might be so, i never noticed it, as the eletric rail wasent there then.. <-- I remember adding elrails to the list in the elrails branch because autoreplace is older than elrails
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01:04:18  <ln-_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Batmanserial1949.JPG
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02:28:23  <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd
02:28:23  <Sacro|Mobile> !logs
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08:23:46  <peter1138> hmm
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08:29:12  <Tron> hmm to you, too, peter1138
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08:32:11  <peter1138> morning
08:32:37  <Tefad> gug
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10:01:45  <HMage> *looks at Bjarni's mailing list email regarding enums* That __attribute__ afaik is gcc only, does he know that?
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10:02:26  <Tefad> and what platform is there that doesn't gcc doesn't function on?
10:04:45  <HMage> anyway, limiting possible compilers probably should be project leader's decision. I'll just watch.
10:08:12  <Tefad> hehe : )
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10:14:02  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8808 /trunk/src/viewport.cpp: -Fix [FS#631]: do not show the 'edit sign' window for spectators.
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12:10:05  <peter1138> what was i going to ask?
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12:16:13  <Darkvater> tea sir?
12:19:34  <SpComb> yawn
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13:42:54  <peter1138> hm
13:45:19  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8809 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r8715): accidentally removed a part of an expression.
13:50:08  <ln-_> http://pics.obra.se/1170191653865.jpg
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14:09:07  <Belugas> hello there
14:09:54  <HMage> me? hello
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14:36:29  <Belugas> damned
14:36:39  <Belugas> i have to redo it
14:37:00  <Belugas> my industry tile spec do not match
14:37:09  <Belugas> missing specs here and ther
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14:51:11  <Rubidium> Tron: was r8802 meant to be the fix for FS#634?
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15:22:38  <peter1138> ps aux
15:22:40  <peter1138> er
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16:10:34  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8810 /trunk/config.lib: [Configure] -Fix: "" variables if you test them, else if they are empty they return lovely errors (tnx to Celester for finding thisone ;))
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16:24:17  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8811 /trunk/config.lib: [Configure] -Fix: [:lower:] for tr is GNU specific. Use [a-z] instead. (Celestar)
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17:02:52  <lolman> Ello all
17:04:48  <scia> LOL
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17:16:18  <RichK67> Darkvater ping: re transfers fix..
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17:30:34  <Wolf01> hello
17:30:42  <lolman> Ello
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17:34:40  <lolman> Hmm
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18:48:01  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8812 /trunk/config.lib: -Revert r7880: those changes assumed a GNU-grep, which isn't always available. Reverted back to a bit more ugly way of writing greps, but at least they are not bound to the laws of GNU.
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18:58:33  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8813 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix r8812: fixed one GNU depending grep statement with an other ;) Switched to egrep, which should work just fine.
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19:19:31  <dihedral> is there support already for plugins for the openttd server or are there plans?
19:19:55  <peter1138> no and no
19:19:57  <dihedral> using so or dll files
19:20:05  <dihedral> is it of interest?
19:22:27  <peter1138> not to me
19:22:48  <Rubidium> no, way too much trouble synchronizing the plugins between different server and clients
19:28:07  <dihedral> i am talking about a plugin system ONLY for the server - a good example would be mani admin plugin for css or hl2
19:28:21  <dihedral> nothing any clients would need
19:29:11  <Rubidium> then you can easily modify the sources yourself, no need to make a plugin system
19:29:13  <ln-_> http://bluegiga.com/~fopa/latin.c
19:32:22  <Rubidium> and there is already a console, so you could do most of it with a script
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19:33:43  <dihedral> just to be curious :-) what are in your oppinion the disadvantages to a plugin system?
19:34:12  <Rubidium> lots of hooks
19:34:30  <dihedral> would that be a lot of overhead?
19:34:40  <Rubidium> makes it harder to do large changes as the API needs to be stable for a plugin system
19:36:19  <dihedral> lets say there was an already stable plugin system which only needed implementing (again - just wanting to pick your brains :-) )
19:36:58  <Rubidium> stable plugin system != stable API
19:37:13  <dihedral> ok
19:37:27  <peter1138> iiiii was bor-orrrrrn
19:37:34  <peter1138> under a waaaaaaandrin staaaaar
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19:39:08  <dihedral> are parameters already being passed to scripts like on_server_connect.scr ?
19:39:13  <dihedral> eg. player id
19:39:33  <peter1138> nope
19:42:09  <dihedral> is there a reason for that or has it just not been done yet?
19:42:33  <peter1138> parameters don't exist
19:43:32  <dihedral> i thought %A for example was available or is that just for aliases?
19:45:27  <izhirahider> why is that when you start a new network server, you can choose only four possibilities (english, german, french, any) ?
19:46:04  <izhirahider> Shouldn't you be able to choose from the list of translation languages?
19:47:55  <peter1138> who know
19:47:56  <peter1138> s
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19:51:39  <dihedral> are there plans to add parameters?
19:51:58  <peter1138> not that i know of
19:52:15  <dihedral> hehe - are there plans to extend the console at all :-P
19:52:23  <peter1138> not that i know of
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19:52:32  <dihedral> great :-D
19:52:36  <peter1138> feel free
19:52:51  <dihedral> i am - just one prob
19:53:00  <dihedral> i am not really familiar with c/c++
19:53:06  <peter1138> that doesn't stop us
19:53:18  <dihedral> has not stoped me either so far - only limited me :-D
19:53:41  <dihedral> but that is also one of the reasons i am bombarding you with all these questions
19:55:41  <dihedral> so what would you suggest as an enhancement commonly asked for?
19:56:32  <Rubidium> PBS :)
19:56:43  <izhirahider> If the language run on the server takes 1 byte, it could store 256 different values
19:56:44  <dihedral> well - that aint a console thing is it now :-)
19:58:19  <Rubidium> no, but it is an commonly asked enhancement
19:58:53  <dihedral> yeah - not half it is
19:59:04  <dihedral> i am looking forward to it too
19:59:18  <dihedral> but that is nothing i could help with
19:59:25  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8814 /trunk/ (Makefile.in Makefile.src.in config.lib configure): [Config] -Add: added --awk and detect_awk. We now try to find an awk on the user system which allows gsub(). If not found, you can define one yourself, or it tells you versions you might want to install
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20:01:08  <dihedral> no ideas?
20:02:22  <Roel> http://bugs.openttd.org/ ? :)
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20:03:33  <dihedral> true :-)
20:03:42  <Roel> peter1138, and, lol.. :)
20:04:23  <nairan> eddi ya there?
20:04:33  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8815 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (helpers.hpp window.cpp window.h):
20:04:33  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [cpp_gui] -Codechange: Added ZeroInitBegin and ZeroInitEnd helper structures
20:04:33  <CIA-1> OpenTTD:  -Window members are now initialized using new helper structures
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20:06:46  <peter1138> hmm?
20:07:44  <Roel> (the that doesn't stop us''.
20:07:45  <Roel> )
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20:10:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8816 /trunk/config.lib: [Config] -Fix: if you disable stripping, don't detect strip at all
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20:37:38  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8817 /branches/cpp_gui/src/misc/rect.hpp: [cpp_gui] -Fix(r8803): g++ compilation errors (Rubidium, glx)
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20:41:50  * Maedhros has rewritten grf_load_string
20:42:03  <Maedhros> now with 100% less copying! http://devs.openttd.org/~maedhros/grf_load_string.diff
20:43:55  <Digitalfox> Maedhros: What are the benefics?
20:44:25  <Maedhros> openttd doesn't (potentially) explode if you load a grf with a string that isn't 0 terminated
20:45:11  <Digitalfox> And that happens a lot? Or is something that oncly is found or occur from time to time?
20:45:18  <Digitalfox> *only
20:45:34  <Maedhros> no, it shouldn't happen at all
20:45:39  <Maedhros> but it doesn't mean it won't
20:46:08  <Maedhros> it doesn't add any features, just makes things a little safer
20:46:40  <Maedhros> (and easier, when i come to finish the Action 0B handler :)
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21:10:13  <Rubidium> Maedhros: the patch looks ok to me
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21:11:50  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8818 /trunk/src/ (helpers.hpp macros.h stdafx.h): -Codechange: remove the #ifdef _cplusplus remnants.
21:18:42  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r8819 /trunk/Makefile.src.in: [Config] -Documentation: added why we need CC_HOST for linking on PSP
21:21:58  <Maedhros> Rubidium: cool, thanks for looking over it
21:22:15  <Maedhros> peter1138: what say you?
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22:03:08  <peter1138> i have an idea
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22:04:22  <Rubidium> is it a good one?
22:04:26  <peter1138> very
22:04:35  <Roel> does it include explosives?
22:05:13  <peter1138> possibly
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22:07:41  <Belugas> [17:03] <peter1138> i have an idea   <-  let me guess : it involves going home
22:07:45  <Belugas> no... at this time,
22:07:51  <Belugas> it's rather sleeping
22:09:48  <Belugas> homeit is for me...
22:09:50  <Belugas> night
22:09:59  <Wolf01> night Belugas
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22:13:04  <Eddi|zuHause3> <nairan> eddi ya there? <- ?
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22:21:43  <Wolf01> 'night all
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22:29:01  <peter1138> Belugas wins a cookie
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22:31:08  <Roel> gmmm, cookie
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